protection

[undone beacon]

Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose

[solid sun]

I’m trying to inflate my aura

[fringe mural]

rizz

you need rizz

[solid sun]

Do not conflate inflation and deflation of aura

[toxic pewter]

but isnt the whole point to solo him

lol oops im way late my discord was scrolled up

[undone beacon]

dummy

[solid sun]

Pash

[toxic pewter]

XD

[solid sun]

Let’s talk about another word

Let’s do word time

[plush tendon]

maybe you could sell ?? carries

make some gold

[fringe mural]

dude so mean

[plush tendon]

[undone beacon]

How about Flit

Like to flit around

flittering about

[narrow prawn]

how long till murlok.io updates

[solid sun]

I’m not very good at front flits but back flits used to be my jam

[fringe mural]

nullman has two difficulties right?

[toxic pewter]

wait ppl r paying gold for nullaeus

[undone beacon]

yess

[undone beacon]

i guess for the crests yeah

[fringe mural]

i'll just go in and see how it goes

[fringe mural]

cant be that bad

[narrow prawn]

bullshit, i've been checking this website everyday!

[solid sun]

Isn’t murlok that dumb aggregate site

[plush tendon]

people will pay for anything

[narrow prawn]

[fringe mural]

but i'll be busy with ABUNDANCE soon

[plush tendon]

M0 world tours, 10 carries, normal raid clears

[fringe mural]

need those sweet purple tools

[toxic pewter]

what in the wold

[plush tendon]

theres a market for anything

[solid sun]

APB

[toxic pewter]

made my first purple tool today

[plush tendon]

just gotta find it

[fringe mural]

Yeah i made mining pick and herbalist sickle last week

[toxic pewter]

Rhino tips hat

[tribal wharf]

so, not great

[solid sun]

People will pay for goldshire carries

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[undone beacon]

i hate abundance and do it once a week for the rep

i got the mounts and toys so im good

[fringe mural]

Abundance in zul aman is actually pretty chill

[undone beacon]

i liked it when it was a big ol mess and you walked in and finished in 10 seconds

[solid sun]

Hey yeah so

What’s the play there

I did it once and used a green coin and suddenly I was with these strangers and finished the quest

Am I supposed to join a group?

[tribal wharf]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CGtnKf3JqdxjNHLF?fight=last&type=summary&source=2

[toxic pewter]

ya group for abundance is pretty goodd

can find a raid

[tribal wharf]

i figure someone will want to see log

[fringe mural]

you can do solo

[tribal wharf]

died to a couple of things

[fringe mural]

You need 20k score for 900 abundance per run, which is the highest you can get

Participating nets you 2500, looting a node, like skinning something or mining etc, gives you 400 each, if you manage to bring 1000 abundance to the altar your points count double and if during the 3 minutes your shard reaches 10k, you will get a score of 5k for each time

so what you do is you run solo into the skinning cave, pull everything up to an elite bear

kill everything around you and skin it

then go the altar and maybe repeat that once until you have the debuff at lvl 2

then you can go afk until the timer is done

and get max abundance

[solid sun]

Ummmm what if I’m not a skinner

And am instead mining and bs

[fringe mural]

dont need the skill

Everyone can do it

[solid sun]

What are you saying to me rn

[fringe mural]

I'm mining/jewelcraft

[solid sun]

Are you flirting with me

[toxic pewter]

in that abundance only u can

lol

[fringe mural]

in the abundance cave you can

Yes

[solid sun]

Oooooooo so I can do whatever I want in your special cave

Got it

[fringe mural]

only thing you cant use is the profession totems

That give buff for everyone after channeling

[solid sun]

Will you do it with me

So you can show me

Can we go to the cave together

[fringe mural]

sounds hot

But i'm EU

[solid sun]

Can we bring APB with us

[fringe mural]

are you EU too?

[solid sun]

No I’m na

Guess we’re cursed to be Romeo and Juliet

[fringe mural]

and idk if ZA will be up in 15 minutes

now is eversong, which sucks serious balls

[glad magnet]

Or you join a 40 man collect 1500 and afk until time expires repay 6 times

[solid sun]

Idk how y’all learn all this stuff

[fringe mural]

doesnt always work in eversong because it's so bad

haranir also very bad

Zul aman safest bet and doesnt need a group, can do it whenever

[vocal owl]

How are prot warrior on damage??

[fringe mural]

we tank, dmg is optional

but appreciated

[vocal owl]

What tank is doin most damage then

I want to off tank but love to do damage as tank

[jagged pier]

druid

[fringe mural]

By doing it actually, and there's a scoreboard showing you what activity gives what

the scoreboard goes on your nerves because it's in your face all the time but it's informative

druid still doing good dmg after the nerf?

[mighty valley]

prot's doing decent on damage, everything's closer after the big bear nerfs

[undone beacon]

Yes, druid is still cranking damage after the nerfs

[fringe mural]

What was it mainly, the blue lazors?

and ion cannon procs

[undone beacon]

huh

No it was Ravage

And it still is Ravage

[fringe mural]

oh i see

[undone beacon]

Ravage echoes still hit like fucking trucks

[fringe mural]

the rage dump?

[undone beacon]

One of the spenders from the hero talents yes

[fringe mural]

Ah

[pastel sleet]

an help or ideas on p2 of H crown? swapping at 2 stacks. ive taken up to 3 but my off tank (guardian) is getting slapped. trying to resolve. are there any known tips?

[undone beacon]

Your auto attacks have a chance to turnb Maul/Raze into Ravage, which hits very hard

[fringe mural]

oh that, the raze upgrade

Yeah i used that in legion remix, it was evil

if it procced everything just died

good to be back in the skyhold btw

[undone beacon]

[fringe mural]

feels like i never left

[undone beacon]

You've returned at a rare time, Nim is on a break

He woulda had a blood fued with that evan guy it woulda been fun to watch

[fringe mural]

i think i first joined shortly after it was made, in legion

because skyhold duh

but didnt stay to witness bfa

[slender bison]

Did they silently buff the white damage and trash in general? I'm getting deleted with more item level with same pulls as yesterday

[undone beacon]

Not to anyones knowledge. Maybe just bad groups?

[solid sun]

Are you playing worse

[slender bison]

It's muscle memory, not rly

[solid sun]

Did you put on a piece of leather gear

[undone beacon]

Something something, logs

[fringe mural]

That will be it

Rhino holmes

[lofty warren]

When is it worth using cataclysm charges on gear?

[jagged pier]

when it gives u 4 piece

[undone beacon]

oh pepega my sweet summer child

as soon as you can use it to get 4pc

[solid sun]

Hey it could be

We all do silly accidents sometimes

[lofty warren]

So its not worth to use to only get 2pc

[undone beacon]

correct

[mighty valley]

if you used it to get 2pc, and then that same piece dropped

you'd feel like a right numpty

as the british always say

[solid sun]

Numpty dumpty

[plush tendon]

you feel like a big dumb dumb

[solid sun]

Can’t get up again

[plush tendon]

and be mildly disgruntled

[solid sun]

Moms spaghetti

[lofty warren]

https://raider.io/characters/us/stormrage/Fatmaneat

Should I have gotten free tier piece yet?

[plush tendon]

yes

you should have a free charge

[smoky saffron]

just to make what i heard has some truth behind if I get 4 set on one character all member of my warband get the manaflux easier?

[plush tendon]

no

[lofty warren]

Oh my gosh its only a charge and not actual item. Blizz stingy AF

[plush tendon]

you need 4 piece on each toon

to start unlocking the cata charge drop chance

for that toon

[glad magnet]

You haven’t done many keys yet and it’s random.

I’ve only gotten 2 charges.

[lofty warren]

What is random

[plush tendon]

I think he was talking about the one you get from 2k

[glad magnet]

Ohhhh

[lofty warren]

I dont have 4pc

[fringe mural]

catalyst charges

when you get those

[glad magnet]

Thought he meant the randoms you get after 4p

[smoky saffron]

you are correct thank you

[plush tendon]

yea, it was big feelsbad

[lofty warren]

No im trying to get to 4 pc.. noy worry about stuff after it

[fringe mural]

ah

[plush tendon]

the good news is we should get another charge next reset

[lofty warren]

Back in tww you would get an actual item tier instead of a catacylsm charge why did they make it worse

[plush tendon]

so itll be 2 charges plus 1 from 2k IO

[glad magnet]

Gotcha so if you’re 2k you should have 2 charges to use.

[plush tendon]

so youll only need 1 tier piece from vault or raid

[glad magnet]

So you farm more

[plush tendon]

its not a huge deal

you just send the cata charge on literally anything to get 4 set

cause youll farm more charges by playing the game at 4 piece

I got one from a delve

M+ drops em

raid drops em

I bet PVP also drops em

[lofty warren]

To get a heroic item you need to run like 5 dungeons (bc only 1 item drop from eod and there are 5 ppl).. also on top of that it has to be item that you can convert into tier and not some trinket

[plush tendon]

you can also just cata a champ piece

[lofty warren]

Im talking about process to get heroic tier. Need to spam dungeons and prey for the 20% that you get a loot + that the item is convertible to tier. Is that right?

Eod always only drops 1 item? I swear I saw 2 drop before too

[plush tendon]

ah

yea, sounds about right

or you can do a delve map

[lofty warren]

I guess there is no rush if im already doing 10s/11s (probably like most ppl). I can be slow but also get 10s done on brew

[daring marlin]

SHUT UP FRIEREN

https://tenor.com/view/wirbel-frieren-sousou-no-frieren-gif-13650222802983142741

[daring marlin]

Bro like Nexus

Place is pretty fun

[glad magnet]

still need light ring

only got void

[daring marlin]

damn

good point, I gotta farm that shit

goat

[glad magnet]

i mean, ive got the champ light, but need hero light

[solid sun]

My friends keep tryna farm these bullshit baby dungeons for champ quality “bis”

And everytime they bring it up I get closer to the edge

[daring marlin]

I will do normal raid tonight when I get home to see no plate at all once again

I need one fucking drop man

JUST A SINGLE TIER PLS

shame the curio drops off the raid that isn't even out yet

I'd like to lose the roll on that too

[graceful jasper]

Hey guys, maybe a bit of random question but i just did a +10 skyreach and the first pack after the first boss (pack 6, i tried left and right) just fucking NUKED me. Shield wall up everything up and i just get one shot at some point. Seems to be this fiery talon the mobs apply on me.

Does anyone know how to deal with this? Maybe dispellable or i got to do something different.

[trim bay]

Its a bleed

you need to kite if you cant clear it

[jagged pier]

U didnt drop your bleed stacks

Its a 1 second debuff

Literally waddle away for 1 sec

[graceful jasper]

Aight so legit just kite around a bit and i should be fine

[jagged pier]

U dont even need to kite

Stun will drop it

[ebon talon]

how does prot warrior apply deep wounds

[jagged pier]

Fear will drop it

Demolish or execute

[ebon talon]

demolish I see

[graceful jasper]

Oh damn, okay thanks guys 🙏

[jagged pier]

U also need it talented for execute to do it

Demolish will just do it i believe

[outer willow]

We have zero way to cleanse ourselves now right? They took away our dispel?

I swear we had a way to self cleanse

[jagged pier]

Not for anything imprtant

So we didnt loose anything

[untold cape]

Anyone know of the Spell Reflect issue on Crown of the Cosmos? Specifically Grasp of Emptiness.

[outer willow]

Was it a magic dispell?

[jagged pier]

Nope

[outer willow]

What was it?

[jagged pier]

It did like posion and disease

Which can be helpful but is also covered by a lot of healers

Never did magic debuffs

[outer willow]

Ahhh bitter immunity.

That’s what it was

Ty

[untold cape]

So apparently, you can spell reflect Grasp of Emptiness on Crown of the Cosmos... This puts the Obelisks shots from the boss and is able to kill random people in the raid.

[lofty warren]

Dies skyreach dot stack? Those birds hurt

[mighty valley]

yes but it lasts like a second

aoe stun or move out to drop stacks before it gets insane

[young oasis]

Is light company guidon our BiS?

or what?

I mean one of good trinkets

[solid sun]

When you get blasted by the sky reach laser on the last boss can you hide behind someone else and make them eat it :)

[toxic pewter]

ngl skyreach has some hard hitting trash

not a bad dungeon overall imo

[jagged pier]

Apart from the armour reduction once u learn the 2 step its fine tbh

[tribal wharf]

i dont understand wtf you are going to do about first boss of sky reach

[raw parcel]

Skyreach is probably my favorite dungeon of the season so far, I think.

[tribal wharf]

like the trash on that platform

[jagged pier]

U just pull it

[tribal wharf]

and the dps just get flung off the ledge

[jagged pier]

Thats because u arent inturpting

[raw parcel]

Kick repel. I always say at the start of dungeons "if you don't kick repel, a scary monster will eat you"

I also say "if I didn't pull it, I meant not to pull it, don't pull stuff for me." They don't always listen to that one.

[tribal wharf]

it is an interupt thing then? okay cuz i understand how the recieving end of it comes, outwards from him i mean

so, if i have to kick it, then i'll figure it out

[jagged pier]

Tank ego

[tribal wharf]

Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.

[raw parcel]

Pulling stuff is the tank's job though. If Johnny Dipshit DPS thinks he knows how to pull better (he doesn't), he should strap a shield on.

[toxic pewter]

i tank ego'd out bad yesterday im not proud to admit it

i gotta work on my tank ego.. been bad for years

[mighty valley]

if it's done well, another player pulling for you can be v helpful

if it's done badly, sure, bad

[olive rock]

guys, i have this ugly trinket

its bugged on sims

any idea if he is good or not ?

[raw parcel]

It can be, really depends on context. But sometimes it's just a pain in the ass.

[toxic pewter]

yeah honestly in seat yesterday i was tanking void dude near the portal and mage pulled some mobs i needed to me cuz i cant move guy away from portal

i did ping tho i will admit

so i guess it was my pull

[raw parcel]

If you pinged it, that's not them pulling, that's you pulling using them as a pet.

[alpine ginkgo]

Some of my best runs so far were with a pally pulling mobs for me (hi I’m new here)

[toxic pewter]

yeah i guess it was my pull lmao

[toxic pewter]

welcome

[tribal wharf]

do you guys think i will brick this 8 nexus

[toxic pewter]

hell no u got this

[olive rock]

guys, what about my trinket ? stop arguing about tank ego

[olive rock]

help me

[toxic pewter]

wat trinket

oh the dreadscale

[olive rock]

this shit

[toxic pewter]

that a solid defensive trinket

[olive rock]

the sims does not work for him

[alpine ginkgo]

Personally. I never sim my tank. Build what gives you most survival

[toxic pewter]

but yeah you losing prob like 4-6% dam wearing it

[tribal wharf]

probably good, i dont know

you'd have to sim it

[olive rock]

I have the sky reach one 276, its probably better for dam ?

[olive rock]

he is bugged on t he sims

[toxic pewter]

the solar flare or whatever?

[olive rock]

the damage he does dont count

[olive rock]

solarflare yeah

crit one

[toxic pewter]

yeah

that one better for dam

so basically wear that one

unless u need defensive trinket in moments where you want that

[tribal wharf]

but, the general rule for pwar is trinket with many green words not good for us

[alpine ginkgo]

Green words bad

[tribal wharf]

"chance to gain 200 haste for 15 seconds"

is what we ant to see

[raw parcel]

I've been maining brew this season, so I've had to unlearn my love of haste.

[tribal wharf]

i think my monk is going to fall behind

[alpine ginkgo]

You can still enjoy it. I just got the “High on Haste” addon. Plays songs when lusting.

[tribal wharf]

only thing close to tht i use is elevator music when using taxi

[lament osprey]

Okay please hear me out

Solarflare prism or Puzzle box for raid?

consider both are equal in ilvl

[solid sun]

Sim it

[coarse bay]

Rhino

Are u gaming

[lament osprey]

pls no :C

[solid sun]

I’m sitting in traffic

[undone beacon]

That’s genuinely the answer though, best to sim

[mighty valley]

be real. are you gonna press puzzle box on CD

[lament osprey]

FUCK NO

[undone beacon]

That too

[mighty valley]

then you have your answer

[undone beacon]

Puzzle box is the tank trap this season

[lament osprey]

thank you for helping be lazy when i get home

[proper moss]

what do we drop to play battle-scarred veteran?

[jagged pier]

Bloodsurge

Or Tan

[proper moss]

ty

[keen nymph]

Chat what we feeling for mainhand embellishment for max dps

[dusky knot]

Should I know something before I craft my main weapon? Should I wait for 80 Hero Dawncrest or just go now and upgrade it along the way?

[coarse bay]

That would be a sim question, afaik theyre all pretty close

[solid sun]

Craft with myth crests for a max craft.

[undone beacon]

Hunt is recommended for this

[dusky knot]

How do I get 1 myth?

[undone beacon]

Don’t craft with hero crests, craft with myth. Using hero is suboptimal

[solid sun]

+9 dungeons is one way

[undone beacon]

Myth crests come from last two bosses of heroic, M+ keys from +9 or higher, ?? Nullaeus, etc

[dusky knot]

Aight. Do you guys get your own key up first or just join random keys?

Mine at 8 now haha

[coarse bay]

You might as well keep using yours since its pushed up already

[undone beacon]

Either works, as a tank people invite you pretty fast

But you can also push your own to be picky on dps

[coarse bay]

Ya u have the privilege to choose any key you want

[dusky knot]

True. Thank you all very much! 🤌

[undone beacon]

Go get em champ

[solid sun]

We like food if you want to contribute to the bbq

[dusky knot]

Do you make your own routes or what do you use for that?

[solid sun]

I am a big believer in w routes

Press w and win

[dusky knot]

I just did but had to go back after we killed the boss 😩

[solid sun]

Did you time it

[coarse bay]

Takes some reps to figure it out

Its week 1 so dont stress it

[dusky knot]

Okay perfect! Thanks again🥰

[solid sun]

If you timed it, good route

Good job

Little adjustment for the future

[lament zealot]

Are we pressing execute or is it not worth it?

[coarse bay]

The nice rhino arc is so cool

Remember evil rhino

Yesterday

[coarse bay]

Thane in ST

[lament zealot]

But Col = no?

[coarse bay]

As of the last i heard

[solid sun]

When was I evil lol

[coarse bay]

It was crazy

[solid sun]

I don’t think this happened

[coarse bay]

I saw it

[hearty terrace]

Hey guys been playing VDH last week but wanted too maybe Minmax my group a bit Mw & Hunter how are you guys felling in keys so fair 🙂 I'm just off 3k on the “main”

[coarse bay]

Tbh i just started my warrior keys and i was only 245 to start

But was able to do 10s

It feels the same i guess? Too soon to tell

[hidden sinew]

Prot really strong in early keys fwiw. Absolute brick wall

[hearty terrace]

Yesh okey interesting

[lofty warren]

time to try and then get it the 1st few times and then forget and wipe

[solid sun]

Nope

[tribal wharf]

lfr veteran cheese

i was going through bags and im........ wtf is that thing.........

[lofty warren]

with this haste i should use HR?

[tribal wharf]

but my chest was veteran anyways

so its still a win

[lofty warren]

!hr

!itf

!hasterating

[tribal wharf]

1188 is the number

[lofty warren]

lets see how good the talents from archon are

[tribal wharf]

huge bracers

wrong stats though

[lofty warren]

wheres haste

[tribal wharf]

thats what i said

but thats what the game give me

[mighty valley]

ilvl > *

[lofty warren]

better then my sheet gear

[tribal wharf]

im gunna run a bunch of 6s, dodge the fortified

fort is very painful, as always

6 drops 1/6 hero

[unreal sequoia]

Am I suppose to craft a 285 weapon if I get the crests for it?

[coarse bay]

it's suggested, but you aren't "supposed to"

recommended first craft/crest usage though

[unreal sequoia]

Easy way to farm myth crests? I only have 25 so far

I assume to not use the hero ones

[coarse bay]

There's also some nuance to it. If you don't think you will be killing first mythic boss for awhile, imo it wouldnt be bad to do shield

[solid sun]

Yeah supposed to is probably a weird way to say it. It’s probably the most optimal path, but if you aren’t raiding mythic it may make sense to craft a shield first

[coarse bay]

no hero crests for anything you plan on crafting long term, ends up wasting the crests

[solid sun]

+9 dungeons get you myth track

[coarse bay]

you can do delve boss ??, bountiful delves x4 once delve track 4 for 20 a week, or +9 and above m+

[solid sun]

And also is a nice way to engage with dungeons while you learn them and score hero track gear

[smoky saffron]

In terms of raw mitigation is thane or col better? I like both but damage and thickness wise which is preferred?

Raiding sorry

[coarse bay]

theyre both pretty much the same, thane is very slightly ahead in damage output

[mighty valley]

prob thane but they're v close

"tankiness" is hard to quantify if there's not a clear huge gap

[coarse bay]

play your preference/best one

and itll be your best

[solid sun]

Technically colossus gets bigger right

So it’s literally thicker

[smoky saffron]

Got it thank you for the answers

[gray mirage]

whats the best embellishments for us? ive seen a few different options but wasnt sure what to use

[coarse bay]

The best to use for you will be found in a sim. The alternative is just following the guide, which recommends hunt, afaik the embellishments are all pretty close to each other

[lofty warren]

how much materials cost for shield im so lazy and dont want to try to find enchanter and a bs to make shield :((((

[coarse bay]

idk

[daring marlin]

Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose

[coarse bay]

[daring marlin]

you missed the funny earlier

[coarse bay]

now i must go look

[daring marlin]

@coarse bay lmao

[coarse bay]

Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose

lmao i just read it

thats funny

what a random crashout after a single response

[celest notch]

Is spellbreaker ever worth it? Doing 12s and 13s, I notice the only time I ever feel 'in danger' is during the beginning of MT with the adds that have arcane blade on their autos, or someting similar

[toxic pewter]

O_O u takin spellbreaker?

that talent is basically giga trash

[coarse bay]

ya it's a chance at mitigating damage

we have a lot of strong talents

you could opt into moving a more flexible point into it

but it isnt something reliable

[celest notch]

THat's why I was asking. I don't take it, but it's like, the only spot in the tree that I could feasibly move the tree to help with magic damage

[coarse bay]

fight through the flame would be better maybe

but it isnt that big

[sturdy tiger]

quick question. i just had a warrior tank and he feelt like papper. noticed he basicly never had shield block active. have they changed it or was he just a pepeg

[celest notch]

I think it ends up being the same amount of DR in a perfect world

[celest notch]

pepega

[coarse bay]

pepega

[celest notch]

SHield block should have 100% uptime

[sturdy tiger]

so nothing changed cheers lol

[coarse bay]

ya I imagine in the right dungeons or circumstances arguments could be made if that DR could be what saves your life

im dumb and dont TC though

so I leave that to the smart people

[celest notch]

It's just hard to justify IMO. Cause it's like, at MOST a few packs throughout an entire dungeon

[coarse bay]

kinda feelycraft ballpark for most people

[celest notch]

I think it's just the spellbreakers right before 2B in Terrace, and the adds before Vexamus that have magic on their autos

[coarse bay]

i did a spire that we didnt make it past the first spot for over 5 minutes and we still almost +2'ed it

[coarse bay]

dont forget to be liberal with SR for the DR if you arent expecting to reflect something

[undone beacon]

Spellbreaker isn’t worth the point. It would be better to put it into Hunker Down on the same node before you take speallbreaker

Fight through the flames is a fine node to swap to as well if you’re really concerned, but we deal with magic damage the same way we did last patch. Shield Wall, Spell Reflect, etc

[marble cipher]

We're taking full apex right?
Cause I've seen some tanks drop the last point of apex and put it in Indomitable or Last Stand

[undone beacon]

Yes we take full apex

Neither Indom nor last stand are worth the 4th apex point

[ornate palm]

Needs thicker skin tbh.

[marble cipher]

Aight, 's what I thought too, but thought I'd check.
The wowhead thane M+ build is fine for 10's then I assume, no need for Indo/Last Stand/BSV?

[undone beacon]

Something something ignore pain

[coarse bay]

we suggest icyveins here but i imagine it should be fine for 10s

[undone beacon]

We recommend Icy Veins builds, wowhead isn’t being super actively maintained

[marble cipher]

Ah, thanks, will check there

[tribal wharf]

i dont want to play any more tonight after that

[undone beacon]

Then take a break

is a game is supposed to be fun

[toxic pewter]

what happened

[tribal wharf]

doragosa balls over powered

hit for 50% life

on a 6

so on a 10 its a 1 shot

[toxic pewter]

oh aa final boss

[tribal wharf]

especialyl with tyranical and for not tank

[toxic pewter]

tons of balls flyin around

i swear its more than was in dragonflight even

[tribal wharf]

ya, that boss is half the time its really free and it does nothing

[toxic pewter]

at least it feels that way to me

[tribal wharf]

or it wipes group

certainly hits harder

but it has gross mechanic of put crap on the ground, and the suck every player in

so i have to make sure to move it off

forget and its wipe

[coarse bay]

AA hurts

when pugs no kick

or dodge things

my first depleted 10

[cerulean tusk]

I am a changed man, so I wont comment

[inner trail]

why cant we track Revenge! procs in buff tracker

[lofty warren]

cant a warrior solo kick all of AA

[dreamy pulsar]

Ignore Pain = 40 rage minimum, Shield Block rage save window, IP buff refresh threshold (3s), rage cap deficit dump (25) is this how it suppoed to be used or just on cd and yolo?

[coarse bay]

tbf it's not something we need to track

[lofty warren]

we are the VDHs of tww

[coarse bay]

it doesnt change any decision making

[inner trail]

it could

[coarse bay]

it doesnt

[inner trail]

every buff should be available in the buff tracker anyway

[cerulean tusk]

Just press IP when you go over 70 rage, dont worry about it other than that

[inner trail]

rn we revenge when over 70 rage

actions.aoe+=/revenge,if=rage>=70&spell_targets.revenge>=3

[coarse bay]

true, blizzard is pretty hit or miss

[inner trail]

so if we get a free revenge how would it not change that rule

[dreamy pulsar]

and for revenge ?

[coarse bay]

u revenge when you dont have SS or TC/TB available

[inner trail]

not what the apl says

[cerulean tusk]

You cast Revenge as normal, dont worry about the proc

[coarse bay]

we arent robots, and u always want to be generating and spending rage when u can

for anger management

[wintry gate]

any 2.9k+ io tanks looking for a M+ main group? (rdruid here)

[fluid widget]

How does that make sense

[cerulean tusk]

Why did you ask that

[fluid widget]

I was told to feed the troll, it keeps them healthy

[cerulean tusk]

Fair enough

[glass girder]

I feel like i’m getting absolutely dogged if i don’t spam it sometimes though?

[fluid widget]

It made us fail our 9 yesterday, balls we’re around 85% of their life, and there’s so many more due to the mechanic change

Honestly feel like it was the hardest dungeon I’ve ran but I haven’t done a skyreach yet

[daring marlin]

balls are slow af who cares

use your eyes

[cerulean tusk]

It is a negative feedback loop, you press IP and dont generate resets to get more rage to cast IPs either way. Causing less IPs being cast overall

When you getting slapped, you got rage for days either way. Yet you can still not get SB resets, meaning SB falls off, you take more dam, so you press IP in more panic, equals less focus and avoidable death

Meh, so far I only tanked 10-12 range, and you will only die if you ignore pack mechanics. IP spam has never been needed

[glass girder]

damn i must be playing horribly then lol

[cerulean tusk]

I played this for decades, so dont worry, you just need more trust in your core rotational goals

[rocky crest]

2931 here can play 20/21ST to 00 EU

[cerulean tusk]

Prob should mention if you are EU or NA

[rocky crest]

Well he did not specify

(:

[cerulean tusk]

Yep, so you prob should be smarter

good lad

[rocky crest]

I play warrior, cant be smart. Only rage smash

But for you I edited

[cerulean tusk]

Now my brain can be calm, knowing critical info was shared

[rocky crest]

o7

[raw parcel]

Got my first 12 of the season.

[rocky crest]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-the-rock-wwe-smell-gif-18321113315205233163

[cerulean tusk]

Panda be gaming!

Now get that 16 done

Make us proud

[daring marlin]

Is there a reason tier didn't drop from vanguard?

doing normal gonna make me lose my mind actually

[cerulean tusk]

Bad rng, someone was already saved, could be quite a few reasons

Maybe you simply didnt deserve it

[coarse bay]

[undone beacon]

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-out-rage-parks-and-rec-nick-offerman-ron-swanson-gif-17688925

[raw parcel]

Man I would get dumpstered in a 16 so hard it would be hilarious.

[cerulean tusk]

We believe in Cptn

[tribal wharf]

yup

i put boss wrong place wrong time

no lust didnt help anytiing

[inner trail]

I got meekauras to track it with this code

function(event, unit)
if (event == "UNIT_POWER_UPDATE" or event == "UNIT_AURA") and unit ~= "player" then
return false
end

local costs = C_Spell.GetSpellPowerCost(6572) -- Revenge
if not costs then
    return false
end

for _, costInfo in ipairs(costs) do
    if costInfo.type == 1 then -- Rage
        return costInfo.cost == 0
    end
end

return false

end

[cerulean tusk]

But why

Well, guess it is neat to have done, at least you aint tracking IP religiously

[coarse bay]

I also want to note that apls arent meant to be studied for rotations

probably not for pwar, but some specs have lines that are humanly impossible

[inner trail]

well I usually just code it into wekauras

[coarse bay]

and are only in there to make the bot act correctly

[inner trail]

although now much of it is not possible due to secret values

hekili used to do the same too

[cerulean tusk]

[coarse bay]

hekili copied sims, yes. hekili was also notoriously incorrect

like i said, some lines in apls are not meant to be done by humans

[inner trail]

maybe for some specs I played with it as outlaw to like top 5 rio in the world for it

[coarse bay]

[cerulean tusk]

Top 5 outlaw, at some point, at some Rio bracket world

Neat

[coarse bay]

i dont bash people for using hekili, everyone has their reasons, but claiming it's good is just wrong. and backing it up with top 5 rio is something

[inner trail]

for outlaw it was very good yeah

[cerulean tusk]

I been top world Fury does that count too?

Not sure what it got to do with anything, yet it might matter for whatever way this discussion is going

[inner trail]

you said hekili is notoriously incorrect, I'm saying it was good for certain specs

[coarse bay]

It was notoriously incorrect, yes

[cerulean tusk]

This do be true

[coarse bay]

Rio doesnt translate to correct rotation fully

[daring marlin]

@urban portal get them

[cerulean tusk]

[inner trail]

following an optimal apl will result in more dps for many specs so I don't see why it would be bad

[urban portal]

I’m retired

I don’t need to defend hekili

[daring marlin]

lmfao

[urban portal]

Just like I don’t need to defend MJ

[daring marlin]

be funny if you did

[urban portal]

We all know they were the goats in their era

[cerulean tusk]

I just dont see why you would track a proc you dont play around

I dont care if you want a rotation helper addon

[inner trail]

I mean the apl keeps getting optimized still, I think I might play around it for a micro optimization

using sb over tclap when you have phalanx already increases dps by like 2% seems like, yeah you wouldn't track these things without weakauras helping you but if you can use them it's worth it

[cerulean tusk]

I mean, knocka yourself out, if you find that fun - optimize away

Just be careful so you dont come as you try to advice ppl to follow that

[coarse bay]

Shield block?

[cerulean tusk]

Prob meant slam, or his sentence doesnt make sense

[coarse bay]

And shield slam is already prio over tc

[inner trail]

ss i mean sry

[coarse bay]

Apex or not

We dont play around apex

Thats how u rage starve

Maybe in a perfect world against dummies that dont hit you

But we are in a dungeon

And we need to stay alive

[inner trail]

well i originally was trying to figure out if we should ever use tc over slam if we don't have phalanx yet

[coarse bay]

We dont

Even if its a minimal damage gain

What i said above would change that

We need to continue our normal loop

Same reason u wouldnt revenge because of the proc

[cerulean tusk]

To be fair, he might talk from a raid offtank perspective

[coarse bay]

idk if he has it but there needs to he a nim wall of text talking about not playing around the apex

[cerulean tusk]

I hope not, why would there need to be

Just cause someone making a bot and try to MinMax it, doesnt mean nim need to make a disclaimer

[coarse bay]

People dont trust the guides

For some reason

As if the sims arent used to optimize them

[cerulean tusk]

That is fair tho, I love when ppl are sceptics that try in a genuine matter to test what and how it works

[coarse bay]

Ya i guess if i wasnt so dumb id try things out

[cerulean tusk]

Good lad

[coarse bay]

Ive considered trying to learn apl stuff

But not for pwar

[cerulean tusk]

Just make sure to remind ppl that it also doesnt matter and not to confuse passer by with what they say as fact

protect the sprouts at all costs

[coarse bay]

[solid sun]

Cam are you gaming tonight

[tardy juniper]

Hey guys. I am tanking to help out guildies with mythic runs but I am getting absolutely shredded by some packs.

I can play prot competently but at times I am spamming ignore pain every CD just to stay alive...

Tanking 11s to 13s . Ilvl around 265 but using an adventurer shield. Could that be making a difference?

First pull in academy. There is no way I can survive the whole room pull but I see guardian druids doing it for fun

Also packs in skyrech especially after 1st boss annihalating me

Feel like I need a healer spamming me to stay alive

Any thoughts?

[undone beacon]

Adventurer shield is a huge yikes

Shield is your single biggest defensive gear piece

You get a better shield and things will feel better

[coarse bay]

I was waiting around but i think it smart that i sleep now

Just wound down

[solid sun]

I’m concerned by spamming IP

[cerulean tusk]

1. Dont panic spam IP
2. once you rotated out def CDs, kite
3. the progress to learn what you can tank is slow, but it is knowledgeable you will acquire by playing

[daring marlin]

what pash said

shield is the biggest thing you can get

[cerulean tusk]

i blame the pins, for saying weapon comes first

[coarse bay]

I am a shield first craft gamer

I was gonna hold out

But then didnt

[cerulean tusk]

[tribal wharf]

ya, that was me skill issue

[cerulean tusk]

Did you craft the silly embelishment shield? I wanna see how it actually performs

[tribal wharf]

and focusing too heavling on the suck in mechanic

[cerulean tusk]

++ tho, ya did good

[tardy juniper]

Thanks for the good advice so far guys.

I dont really kite so could work on that

Just need to switch loot spec and get a herioc shield

Why not panic spam ignore pain?

[cerulean tusk]

You will often find yourself rage choking yourself and getting fewer SS resets

Meaning less CDR, less rage, less SB uptime for free

[tribal wharf]

that boss is much more about dodging the balls

[cerulean tusk]

You just fall behind more and more

[tribal wharf]

than it is anything else

[cerulean tusk]

It is basically a doom spiral, more IP sent not turned into reset for more rage, means less IP value and in the end CDs coming back later

[tribal wharf]

at least we dont have soooo many mechanics affixes

teeming, bolstering, skittish, sanguine, tornadoes and more

[tardy juniper]

Ok makes sense. I guess i just notice my ignore pain uptime icon disappearing within seconds and health taking chunks out of it constantly so feel I need to keep hitting it to stay alive thats all

[tribal wharf]

let me count the ways i hate those

[solid sun]

IP isn’t used to stay alive

IP is used as a rage dump

[cerulean tusk]

Yeah, it is classic trap to get focused on IP value

[tribal wharf]

you use it in part to stay alive but dont over thinik it

if you play even close to right you will have ip all the time anyways

[tardy juniper]

So dont need 100% uptime on ip?

[coarse bay]

Im way too cheap to be messing around with things that cost gold

[cerulean tusk]

Not at all, Here

[solid sun]

No, we don’t pay attention to IP uptime

[cerulean tusk]

It just a bonus

[solid sun]

We pay attention to SB uptime, we pay attention to percentage of blocked hits, rage management, sending CD’s, etc

[tardy juniper]

So why are so many double and triple packs destroying me lol

[solid sun]

Would you happen to have any logs for us to look at?

[cerulean tusk]

You stunning Buster adds, making em desynced and stuff?

[urban portal]

Also I don’t get it

If you don’t like it just don’t use it

Why hate

They just feel insecure they get out damaged by 50 lines of code

[cerulean tusk]

Cause hekili ppl keep preaching about it, having it be some sort of "more fun" when it trains ppl not to play the game

[urban portal]

That’s just me

I’m the only one preaching hekili

[coarse bay]

Like i said i dont care or bash anybody who uses it, it’s like kitty said where its when people preach about it

[cerulean tusk]

Just play the game, use your brain and press buttons as the design intended

[urban portal]

I was around too often

[tardy juniper]

So yeah take the full room pull in academy

Group them up.

avatar, shield block. Shield wall. Demo shout. Thunderblast. 2 x ip

Stun all adds and get destroyed

[waxen frigate]

High io also doesn’t correlate with good class/spec knowledge

[tardy juniper]

Will log my next run. Really appreciate help ❤️

[waxen frigate]

You just synced all their attacks bud

[coarse bay]

If that pack isnt dead by the time youre out of stuff, run for your life or dont pull it

[tardy juniper]

By stunning them...

[coarse bay]

Ya that adds some time to your life

[cerulean tusk]

Dont forget healer external, then when rotation is out, stun and jump away. Shieldcharge back in when CDs come back.

Ya got this

[coarse bay]

Ya youre gonna be a pro at that pull soon

[tribal wharf]

now that im remembering more of doing keystones in df, i recall that we bricked alot of keystones in AA due to final boss like that

[cerulean tusk]

Also stop mentioning IP as if it is a dCD

I beg

[daring marlin]

It's ok guys

[tardy juniper]

Ok 🤣

[cerulean tusk]

2x IP only was on my mind vs unblocable tankbusters in priory

[daring marlin]

This loser Warrior that DC'd at the start of the fight on Dragons actually came back, rolled and won the tier pant token.

This game unironically is terrible

[coarse bay]

[waxen frigate]

Yes

[coarse bay]

Literally always happens

[daring marlin]

It's weird right

[waxen frigate]

You stun a bunch of enemies, they all melee you at once if they’re in range once unstunned

can’t heal through that lmao it’s a one tick death

[cerulean tusk]

This do be why you backpeddal to stutter em in

This is known

[waxen frigate]

^

[cerulean tusk]

To be fair, he aint a novice tho

Not needed to mention that, no?

[waxen frigate]

Idk man

It’s a common mistake even at high keys

[cerulean tusk]

Meh, either way, we all do mistakes and need to learn how to handle pulls

i died twice to bleeds in SkyReach, before my brain processed it

Just go again, adapt and improve

[waxen frigate]

That first AA pack bleeds now too, which is different and surprised me

[solid sun]

No I must be perfect immediately

[daring marlin]

lmfao he has champ tier pants too

I'm actually gonna crashout

[tardy juniper]

Ok some good advice guys thank you ❤️

[silent nebula]

is dwarf still the goat of prot ?

[tribal wharf]

i still have a few veteran pieces

[cerulean tusk]

o7 you will be missed, Guil, the great crashout of 26

[tribal wharf]

and my set chest is veteran

[solid sun]

Cat when are we gonna go to the market together and get ready for meal prep time

[daring marlin]

If you have tier in a slot and you roll on a higher ilvl tier of that same slot your pc should be bricked

[silent nebula]

are u sure ?

[cerulean tusk]

The day I move to America

[daring marlin]

When catalyst charges exist and you get them from anything? yep

[silent nebula]

why ?

[shadow sequoia]

hello guys, is m+ damage high or am I just low geared ?

[tribal wharf]

no

[daring marlin]

are you actually unaware of how that works now?

[tribal wharf]

both are veteran

i never found chest

[silent nebula]

no ?

[silent nebula]

its a mix keep in mind its the first week

[cerulean tusk]

Sure, yes

[tribal wharf]

or i gave it away or sold or something if i did

but, i ran LFR

[daring marlin]

when you achieve 4pc you get catalyst charges from M+, raid, rated pvp and bountiful delves

[tribal wharf]

and it dropped

and i hit need on everything

[silent nebula]

u sure ?

[coarse bay]

It seems pretty handy this season so far, but it’s only been 2 days

[solid sun]

Idk everyone needs in pugs

This is known

[daring marlin]

If you're upgrading a tier for a higher ilvl piece of tier in that same slot you're a douchebag loser

[cerulean tusk]

Can confirm, I gotten 9 charges this week

[silent nebula]

true its like half the dng where its usable

[lofty warren]

dwarf is bis race for all tanks basically

[coarse bay]

Even vdh

[tribal wharf]

i have this but its wrong stats for 1, and id have to cata it

[cerulean tusk]

Once you gotten (4) online, you will swim in charges

[solid sun]

I have one (1)

Please save me

[silent nebula]

yer but what if u dont want to use them ?

[tribal wharf]

in a slot i have, for slightly higher track, why not wait till another part of set slot drops on hero

[cerulean tusk]

Then you bank em

[waxen frigate]

Get some sardines

[cerulean tusk]

Wdum

[silent nebula]

i have 4 set and still need on tier pieces

[solid sun]

What do I do with them

[tribal wharf]

im going to spend a bunch of the charges on mogs

[silent nebula]

im just gate keeping out here

plus i like the whispers i get after they are all so mad

[tribal wharf]

if im playing of course

[cerulean tusk]

I hope Jakey bans you

[tribal wharf]

got a few more days for free, then i have to pay if i want to continue

[silent nebula]

no

[silent nebula]

u can buy a wow token

[waxen frigate]

Eat

[silent nebula]

just go and do some proffesion maxing

[solid sun]

I’ve never had a sardine before

[daring marlin]

hah loser alert

[silent nebula]

why ?

[tribal wharf]

i want to attempt

attempt being key word

10

next 48 ish hours

[cerulean tusk]

Yogi, u EU?

[solid sun]

Yogi is Canadian

[tribal wharf]

might not happen, might be too scared to do it lol

[cerulean tusk]

Dang it

Someone, make it happen and press record

[silent nebula]

just go for it i belive in u

[solid sun]

Yogi I’ll dps for you and support you

[waxen frigate]

They’re good if you get the good ones

[cerulean tusk]

It will be Skyhold History

[waxen frigate]

King Oscar is a good entry level brand available at most supermarkets

[raw parcel]

And they look like a hairy big toe. Endless sadness.

[solid sun]

Yogi I could get you like a full squad

[solid sun]

Fresh? Frozen? Do you cook ‘em? Is this like a raw sushi type beat

[tribal wharf]

how the hell do you do the triple pull for vexamus trash

[silent nebula]

on pizza they are prety good

[tribal wharf]

the pull at the boss spawn

[solid sun]

Do you lop the heads off and just down ‘em

[tribal wharf]

that trash destroys me and i have to cut it into pieces or we die

[solid sun]

Bones and all

[silent nebula]

dont remove head just full raw dog em

[solid sun]

Nish has just created more questions

Cat help

[raw parcel]

I don't typically pull all three packs, it's extremely dangerous to do that. The axes are very rough, and there's a bunch of casts you have to lock down. Just split it.

[solid sun]

Cats eat fish way more than rhinos do

[raw parcel]

And if Johnny DPS tries to pull more or bitches at you, unleash some patented Tank Ego™

[waxen frigate]

They are canned. The canning process cooks them, and usually they’re also smoked first

You can eat them by themselves or use them as toppings or in other stuff. I like them on crackers or toast

[silent nebula]

and pizza

[waxen frigate]

You want them packed in extra virgin olive oil generally, although with higher end brands there’s other stuff that they’re packed in that’s good

[solid sun]

Dr. Google says they’re nutritious

[waxen frigate]

But anything in like… water, soybean oil, sunflower oil, it’s all bad

[waxen frigate]

Extremely healthy for you yeah

Good starter tin you can find almost anywhere

They do have bones and stuff but you won’t really notice them and it’s actually healthy to eat them, lots of calcium

[solid sun]

I will try them

[waxen frigate]

Hell yeah

My personal preference when trying new sardines is to just have them on club crackers or ritz crackers

I’m not crazy about the texture on its own, I really like the crunch that the cracker adds. Or toast for higher end ones

[edgy patrol]

How important are the bracer/back crafts for us? Embellishments sound kinda mid

[cerulean tusk]

About close to not

[solid sun]

Do you have a myth track shield and weapon

Are you going to get the myth track shield from the first raid boss pretty quickly

[waxen frigate]

I ‘member s1 df when embellishments were like double digit %s of your damage

Oldge

[edgy patrol]

I would say within 4wks myth MH/OH. Would that be bigger prio?

[cerulean tusk]

When shield on the Cape was your life

[waxen frigate]

Bro ran the cape embellishment lmaooo

Pussy

[edgy patrol]

We want the max block value is that why shield for ilv is best?

[solid sun]

Up to you. Myth shield is the best defensive armor piece we can get

[waxen frigate]

Ilvl is just best for everything

[solid sun]

Myth weapon is big uppies

[cerulean tusk]

I even ran Opus

[waxen frigate]

Holy soy

[edgy patrol]

Ok that makes sense. Why does MH matter?

[lofty warren]

what embellishments to put on crafted 285 ilvl shield?

[cerulean tusk]

Immortal

[waxen frigate]

Meanwhile I was blasting over 1mil in algethar as brew

Or 100k I don’t remember which

Either way I was smoking dps in like 23s

[cerulean tusk]

Ya just scared cause warrior gain so much from shields, while stagger sucks

Warrior King, Monk out

[solid sun]

Weapon always matters a lot

Big stats, attack power

[cerulean tusk]

Big weapon dam

[solid sun]

Weapon damage attack power same diff

[cerulean tusk]

Nah, nah

[edgy patrol]

Ok so the ideal path is MH/OH cuz it's hard to get myth track for those early, then when you get myth track MH/OH you craft bracer/bacl?

[cerulean tusk]

Depends if you myth raid or not

If you dont, go 1h and Shield

[lofty warren]

is that the name of the embellish?

[cerulean tusk]

Nop

[solid sun]

Well

[lofty warren]

which embelilsh to put on crafted shield

[solid sun]

If you do myth raid it still can be worth imo

If anyone else in your raid needs the shield also you may not get it first

Idr which boss drops a 1h

[edgy patrol]

Yeah fair, I was just hoarding tbh cuz I didn't realize it is that big of an impact

[tribal wharf]

i need 10 more knowledge points for to craft weapon with my own name on it

which is the goal

[cerulean tusk]

Shield is giga

You become so much more tanky

It is huge

[solid sun]

Yogi I agree

[lofty warren]

which embellishment should be used for CRAFT #1?

[undone beacon]

Priest tank success?

[solid sun]

I love crafting my own stuff

[edgy patrol]

What are the embells you're running @cerulean tusk

and Rhino

[tribal wharf]

this is why warlocks and priests cant be tanks

[cerulean tusk]

Sup'

I went 2h first

[solid sun]

I’m still collecting myth crests so I can max craft

I’ll also go 2h first

[cerulean tusk]

I will get m track shield soon either way

[solid sun]

I feel bad now

[lofty warren]

what embellishments are best to put on?

[solid sun]

Cat and I both answering the questions and then both went or are going 2h

[lofty warren]

Arcanoweave Lining?

[cerulean tusk]

Ofc, that why we asked if he m rsid

[solid sun]

Yeh just a funny scenario

Preaching shield and 1h, go 2h

[edgy patrol]

I'm being scammed D:

[solid sun]

It’s like a scene from The Office of The Office was a wow discord

[edgy patrol]

Is this because fury is unplayable without 2h, but prot still functions without?

[cerulean tusk]

#scam

[lofty warren]

prot cant used 2h

[cerulean tusk]

Yep, I mainly DPS in raid. And for chill keys my heroic 6/6 will last fine till all my keys are done

[solid sun]

I’m fury this season and will prot as an alt when others aren’t around to tank. I’m taking a season off tanking kinda sorta

But I’m still active here because these are the homies and I keep up with pwar since it’s the only tank I play anymore

[cerulean tusk]

BDK

[waxen frigate]

Not true

[cerulean tusk]

Heh

[lofty warren]

good luck using shield slam xd

[cerulean tusk]

Pepe dont know my lore

Smh

[solid sun]

You can’t slam anymore

What will you do

[edgy patrol]

Colossus pwar shouldve been 2h+shield change my mind

[cerulean tusk]

I wont change your mind

I agree

[undone beacon]

glad stance shoulda just been a capstone for prot

easy

[solid sun]

What is that soldier type

[cerulean tusk]

Shoo, bear scum

[edgy patrol]

you said the forbidden phrase

[cerulean tusk]

Reminds me, Rat in a hat on vacation?

[waxen frigate]

We’re listening to Minecraft parodies at work

[solid sun]

Yes

[cerulean tusk]

Rip the #protection

[slow spire]

Anyone know what is reflectable on Lightblinded Vanguard?

[solid sun]

When colossus gets changed for new flavor and it becomes Hoplite

Then it’ll be 2h spear plus shield

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TZcW8wmmo4

miney crafta

[undone beacon]

hero crown is a hella fight

[daring marlin]

no

glad stance was stupid

[undone beacon]

[lofty warren]

honestly if I could always sit in tank stance 100% of the time I would. swapping annoying

[undone beacon]

news flash

you can and should

[daring marlin]

you took the bait

smh....

[undone beacon]

you say that but at least 5 people have genuinely asked in the last two days

I need the lurkers to see

[lofty warren]

wtf.. ur supposed to use dps stance in raid

[undone beacon]

pepega im gonna pop that big green bubble head of urs

[tribal wharf]

maybe i could craft one of these lol

[lofty warren]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pepe-P7tlKRI12X6PWRmqk0

[mighty valley]

you should use bstance if you’re trying to 100 parse farm shit

otherwise just be normal

[lofty warren]

if ur not tanking you stay in tank stance?

[mighty valley]

i mean

if you trust yourself to switch back again when it’s time to tank

then sure, eke out those fractions of a percent of damage

[tribal wharf]

if you are confident sure go for attack mode

i mean bstance

i say dont over think it

[round pendant]

I don't even think bstance will ever be the difference between a 99 parse and a 100 parse

[edgy patrol]

what is the proper rotation for damage parse in raid? My numbers are...not good

[brisk dove]

im thinking of trying tanking... but im scared.

[round pendant]

just don't be scared

it's legitimately easy

and if you fuck up and brick a key ah who cares go again you have tank privilege

[brisk dove]

im worried im gonna mess it up cause ive heard prot warrior is hard to do.

[round pendant]

Just practice

But pwar isn't that hard

[brisk dove]

last tank i played was veng

[round pendant]

well veng is much harder than pwar

or well, it was

idk about now, but I heard they simplified it

[brisk dove]

whatre key points i need to know?

cause im brand new to prot warrior.

[round pendant]

keep shield block up and don't turn your back to the enemies
press Ignore Pain to prevent rage from capping (even if your IP is full.)
hit the enemies with your abilities

I'd suggest reading the Icy Veins pwar guide

[brisk dove]

so always have shield block up, always have ip up, press buttons... taunt when needed.

should i taunt on cd.

(dungeon setting)

[round pendant]

"Always have ip up" no, the state of IP is irrelevant to any decision making (unless you're doing giga hard content and know what you're doing)

no you don't taunt on cd, hit the mobs with thunder clap to gather threat

taunt if someone steals aggro, but usually just hitting the mobs enough will prevent that from happening

game's ez don't worry

[undone beacon]

yam doesnt even play wow

they dont know pwarr is turbo hard now

(/s)

[round pendant]

shhhhh

[brisk dove]

so its keep block up, always face the enemy, shield slam when its up, and taunt to keep enemies on me and off my allies.

[round pendant]

yeah, have a look at the rotation on icy veins

also, press shield wall more than you think you should, eventually you'll learn when scary tankbusters/packs are and hold it for those if you have to

[round pendant]

At least I don't play bear

[undone beacon]

Its gotten worse I dont even play bear anymore

I'm a shadow priest