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Then we had a tornado watch for a bit
Today it was low of 32 high of 60
Going insane
i live next to a hotel i dont get quiet anymore
Your clock is off
No your clock is off
yeah isnt it 11:38?
Now it's 11:45
I live in suburban hellscape sprawl
well, 12:38 in god's favorite timezone
Hmmge
i'm in walking distance to so much but i hate the noise, there are pros and cons for sure
Your discord is so weird

Hey did you know there's a sync now button for your clock
That's crazy
You should do that since your time is off
Check out my stupid fat chud cat
Currently a moo cow so I do hear you. Not yet sure if it’s a pill I can swallow, like where even are the damn portals?!!!
Call him a ho for me
El gato
She do be a ho

Hell yeah
Pash
My bear friend died three times on the plant pull in AA
Said he didn’t realize it was fortified so he let IF drop

Does bear just keep if up
hmmge
And then sometimes have more
You generally want to keep at least 1 ironfur stack up
For Armor and for Mastery buff
i died on AA first pull today as brew because our druid was doing 20k dps
as feral

I didn’t know you were back back
very nice catto ^-^
Sometimes I don’t do great on that pull

when in doubt tell dps to pump harder
Like I’ll avoid green circle one way and tank goes other way
it's a dps check more than a survivability check
oh you mean as dps
nvm shitter get good
And then I’m sad
Honestly doing that pull is def a dps check
If it doesn’t die in under a minute you’re turbo fucked as tank
Not me I’m built diff
yeah i really wasnt shitposting tbh
you do not have the means to survive that pull for an extended period of time
never have
Yeah just making sure the stinky lurkers know
You just need the will to survive
Whatever they did at the end
With the bladestorms
Can kiss my ass
I don’t remember it being that annoying before
iirc before the mobs themselves spun, they didn’t leave a spinning pool or whatever
yeah you tanked them on the stairs so you could z-axis it
Anyone else having issues as prot in AA vs those battle axes on the bridges and before ele boss?
It starts fine but then i get dropped like a sack of shit. It seems they have a hidden ramp up dmg that doesn't show?
Or is it just me?
Really? Lol how tf did j miss that
Only bleed i saw was vile bite in 1st oull
maybe lucky parries then you got unlucky once
there is no bleed from the axes, they melee for arcane damage which is why it hurts
oh they took it out?
They hurt as hell in 12s atleast also the timer seems super tight
its day 2 big dawg
No big dawgs here they are in the brew channel
Just old guys drinkin coffee on a thursday morning
think its pinned
Tldr check pins
🫡
anyone with 4pc got some numbers on the drop of the extra catalysts? i feel like i got one quickly, within 4 dungeons, but now it's been like 10 without a drop
wonder if there's a weekly/daily cap or what other drop rate info is out there
Got one yesterday evening when we did 7/7 nhc and 6/7 hc
got shoulders from vault... get shoulders from delve...
6/7
for all toons or just alts
I just read that post. lol. So my new plan is never hit shield block and tank lots of dungeons, adn somehow this will lead me to gold cap. cause reasons....and math...
https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1s3qv05/warrior_tax_it_costs_25g_per_dungeon_to_press/
He did the math.
Yeah
yeah to both or alts lol
get used to it my guy, comes with the class, about a quarter of our stuff are just yells in various forms
Not sure if trolling or just old
Is it really no crafted shield this round?
Guide doesn’t list it but my brain doesn’t understand the logic why
First boss has shield
of course crafted shield is gud
Looks like I’m pleb craftin
Then id first craft it personally
Can do both now though
But yeah crafted is still best first/second temporary craft
how high do the keystones have to be for you to get mythic crests?
9s
asking for another pleb non raider
Ty
If you do a bountiful delve 11 you get a quest giving you 20 myth crest asking you to do a key
Cool
And if you are rank 4 of delve journey, you can get 20 myth crests per week from delves
do you get 20 each week from +11 delves?
ah
It’s only if you are rank 4
You have the gilded stash as listed loot when you select the delve lvl
i see
Bountiful delve, you don’t need a delve key
does it need to be 11 or is 8+ fine for the weekly things?
I think it is 11 bountiful
gotcha
8+ is for the vault
I'm at 9 now i think
How big of a lock in is a crafted shield for us guys, I am having a hard time weighing it, I have like 3 heroic shields and since a shield drops off the first boss in Mythic I cant decide how much of a hard lock in a crafted shield is because yes I can get my best secondarys but its gonna feel like ass if I craft one and then a few weeks later I kill the first boss of mythic and one drops
Ask yourself how long it will take until you kill mythic 1st boss. That‘s the time you will at least (we dont know if it drops, havnt seen it in 7 lfr/nhc/hc yet) get benefit from craftet shild. But also we can have a mythic shield in vault from wednesday on
In the end its gamble. I had several seasons where I craftet shild first and got one in first two vaults, but also seasons where I never had one in vault at all
For example I upgraded hero legs to 6/6 last werk because I knew I will gain the player power of them for at lesdt two weeks (most prob longer as with 6/6 other items have higher prio to get replaced)
Ive crafred both shield and wpn. Decided that it was best for me early in the season. I dont regret it
Play 5 warriors, use the one who gets lucky with drops
fight rng with rng
Anyone knows if its a dps increase for burst to play manual ravager? I see it increases clappa/rend dmg while active
But im not sure how often the auto ravager procs or its internal cd
Its just a bit annoying when it procs on hc throws lol
Sim it
do u play with defensive stance or not in keys?
i got some stance dance macros personally like battle stance whenever i start executing but otherwise i mainly stay in def stance
use b stance for stuff that you cant die on
are the sims broken / bugged atm btw or? Mastery is surprisingly high no?
is battle stance even worth it? u lose a lot of damage reduction for 3% crit
I was literally just bragging to my officer about how I had a top 5
you're the bastard above me!
big grats man lmao
we can chalk it up to ilvl diff 😅 I got giga lucky in m+ today
Oh shit that is high, didn't even notice.
I LC and low-priority tank so 🫥
na I coulda battle stanced more...
You can always advance to day one LFR parsing,that's guaranteed 100s.
how are yall getting such high dps damn
cant seem to get above 40-45k
4 set im guessing?
shield slam good

i'm kinda just playing the same priority order as last season.
Shield slam, TC, Revenge
and the big dam happening
it kinda feels like we are getting fucked in some dungeons. is that right or am i just a bad player?
That's a dungeon I assume?
aca
24,6k overall dps as prot war for m5 key idk how to feel about it
with 238 ilvl is this decent score or dogwater?
nice
what consumables are widely used by tanks in midnight?
I want to craft a ring to cover a slot that refuses to drop... which of the 3 crafted should I take ?
At least for Brew, that Loa ring is amazing
It's not 1:1, but there's some overlap between tanks. Check the wowhead guide to know for sure.
How much rage is generated per auto attack?
How much is avoidance worth? aka is the one with avoidance better even though its vers mastery?
And does haste affect the ticking for dots(rend)?
Tertiaries aren't worth much. Avoidance and speed especially on a tank.
got it, thx!
Instigate vs bloodsurge for m+?
I know it's instigate on most builds. I'm wondering about big pulling
not much since you want to avoid taking aoe attacks
Avoidance is more for unavoidable AoE but yeah lol
Tertiaries are more of a "oh cool I have this also" than anything
Weird question to ask here but I figure we're tanks so we'd have the knowledge, why is RWF tanking the Voidspire dragons together? Isn't it dangerous cuz they get 100% increased damage or did that change?
I ask cuz im tanking it
We don’t really support/recommend the wowhead guide here anymore
The range is based off the distance between their hit boxes, which is HUGE
Im sorry, hot boxes?
Wow autocorrect. Hit Boxes.
oh okay, but I feel like that doesn't change my confusion about them being so close. 🤔
The dragons can stand pritty close together without buffing each other
And If they are close enought you can cleave them which makes the fight shorter, so there is less time to fail
That much I know I just wasnt sure if anything changed.
It’s tough to visualize since hit boxes are invisible. We played around with it for funzies and it’s pretty wild how close you can get them them enraging.
Why not?
In my experience the wowhead and icyveins guides tend to say basically the same thing?
This just feels like closer than 15 yards to me. LMAO
As you see they arent enraged.
I have been looking over the comments as I have decided to try to tank and want to make sure that I set myself up for success as much as possible. couple of questions to start off with. 1. Why are wowhead and icyveins so different in relation to the spec for mythic+, and 2. Why are people saying that icyveins is the go to now?
For sure, logically it looks crazy. And since we can’t “see” their hit boxes it will be a sort of test it out and see kinda thing.
Yeah this just screams to me their hit box is smaller than larger i guess
That’s an interesting way to look at it. Regardless it’s from the center of the hit box, and those dragons be dragons, so they’re models aren’t small.
The writer, while a good player, isn’t a pwar main and isn’t active here. Our former wowhead writer retired and the new guy is filling in. Our very own Mwahi handles the IV guide so asking questions and stuff is facilitated a lot easier since he’s here and awesome
I figured it out Mythic is different from Normal and Heroic They are down the whole time which somehow allows for them to be stacked. I think the buff only takes place when one is in the air.
They are right on top of eachother for the sake of my question and hit boxes but thanks for your help.
Not that I don’t believe you, but can you link the source? It makes sense also because it’s not very easy to get them close when one is airborne anyways because he will move away on his own.
There was no paragraph stating it but the casters discuss it https://youtu.be/Sj1cUXNKJT4?t=1755
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This is not the case. In Normal and Heroic they physically can’t get that close while one is in the air cause it will trigger the other to fly away.
You can get the dragons very close without them enraging allowing melee to cleave. On N/H you have to wait till P3 for them to both be down but in mythic you can do it the whole fight.
BLUF: they can get very close without triggering the enrage.
Okay thanks
true, positioning of flying dragon is completely based on the grounded one in normal/heroic
I've seen some shit

They are literally kissing eachother
Guys maybe a stupid question but do you guys switch stances mid fight ? I´m new to warrior Tank and all warris i can see in higher logs are playing 100% defense stance
We do not stance dance as it is called, we sit in defensive
Swapping stances is giving up a ton of defensiveness for marginal dps
You could theoretically do it for when you dont tank
like when waiting for adds or smth
Even then, it’s not recommended unless you know what your doing and your main goal is to eke out a parse
but you will also forget switching back when necessary and healers will hate you for it
Just stay in dstance and don’t worry about it
yeah
ty cause one of my raid told me he would never tank in defensive stance and i was not sure about that tbh ty for the answer
Never tank in defensive stance? That’s just dumb
In ye olden days defensive stance used to actually reduce your damage by a flat %, but that was removed in TWW
Very cool, thanks for letting me know! Alright, so refer to the IV guide, not the wowhead one*
..even back then I tanked in defensive because it was my safety blanky.
You def would’ve been chided here haha
You used to put more effort into swapping between the two because dealing flat less damage sucks butt, glad they did away with that
Plus the actual dps gain from bstance these days is so minimal. 3% crit and 3% crit damage with stance mastery is pretty mid compared to how much DR dstance brings
its more prevelent in raid
yeah plus human error
where you'll have downtime on tanking bosses
you will 100% forget stance dance in the heat of the moment
so the damage is better then the DR from D stance
but for ease of use, you can just sit in D-Stance 100% of the time if you want
You can also use intervene on cd during off times
so dstance would be good even then
I got my crafted weapon and I'm coming for you buster
ur dun
jk I'm probably gonna have to tank all my keys
Forever stuck in tank hell
Would love to see the content that person plays if he never uses def stance in nowdays times xd
Hey quick question.
When Im dpsing mythic dungeons, 10s and above, Im watching the tanks healthbar bounce all over the place like its fn looneytoons. is the tank letting mitigation fall off? or is that just how it is?
depends on the tank
and its still week 1
like on Prot War my healtbar is stable, but when I play Blood... .yea, that shit is a slingshot
I try to rally to give the tank a boost if shit gets dire. I give up on tracking that for blood xD
Blood is 100% in their own hands
I have a ret paladin friend who sacs me on pull
which helps a ton
but then his health ping pongs XD
I don’t like this lizard
I said it
Everyone spammed the stupid fucking “lizard button” meme until I wanted to go insane and now whenever I see him I am filled with ire
Sitting in VCs with people just spamming “lizard” like shhhhh stop
I’m just a hater
mayhaps
i sincerely think with the way shield block works, it should be changed, to have a ... lower, i dunno by how much, i personally want it to be reduced by 66%, chance to damage shield on blocking.... for all classes that might be affected similarly somehow
is there any logic on how the flying one moves? its so annoying to predict
Is this a WoW meme? It's new to me tbh
It was big all over the internet last year when Disney-Pixar dropped the initial teasers for its new movie Hoppers
so, that, and pain and gain is dead for keys?
its just too weak?
the question is always “what talent are you going to drop for it”
Which features a silly lizard character being silly
so i do take it?
all over the internet
Are you sure about that? I never saw that on twitter
🤔
gonna make a tumblr style hate blog
No youtube either!
modern day disney sucks ass
everything they made that was good was up to 60's and 70's maybe bit in 80s
in the past there was a reason ppl revered the mouse so much
and its not JUST mickey mouse, but its like, all the cartoons
Ignoring peak that was the 90s
90's was good sure
bro, the old looney tunes and bugs bunny and porky pig donald duck
from 1960s, is so much superior to anything we have today
those cartoons will live on as legends for 1000 years at this point
with how wide spread they went
i aint clickin it
one day they will all enter the public domain and be turned into slop horror movies by Blumhouse
peak
i mean, okay yes, you arent wrong
its like, if i say comic books and mix up marvel and dc
this is prime "yogi gets it wrong"
territory
You're conflating Disney with all animation
i do this with EVERYTHING, i bought some pc parts and i had to return it or i couldnt make it work (corsair fans that need special hook up/software?
and i went into their discord
Conflating is such a weird word
conflating is a great word
It’s like inflating
and i said, oh haha you guys make nice XYZ ABC 123 parts (2/3 groups) said like cases or something
"we don't make cases"
this, is, forever and always

i will fuck it up
there is no hope to solve this part of my life
but old disney was just, incredible
Part of The Chronological Donald Volume One 1942-1946 Made by: Disney
I wish to share my child hood memory's with every one!
I grew up with this cartoon, and wish for every one else to watch them to!
Please sit down and watch my child hood cartoon :D
Enjoy
donald mother fuckin duck
Inflate
Deflate
Conflate
One doesn’t belong
Also whatever happened to flate
Like what if something just needs to be flated
Conflate is to raise the value of something in relation to something else, so it still fits. Inflate increases value, deflate decreases value, conflate compares values
Oh yeah?
Well
Heckin nerd dragon
Also how is it raising the value in relation to something else if we say like you’re conflating Disney with all animation
I don’t think that means Disney is being raised to all animation values
You're giving Disney more value by saying that Disney is equivalent to all of animation history
my point that 20's to 70's disney was UNSTOPPABLE
Conflation and mixing things up often go hand in hand
That would be lowering the value right
Then you'd be raising the value of the "poop animation" to disney levels
Conflating is a comparison
why does it feel like im paper even with my shield in the air and pain supp on spam
sometimes
You’re conflating paper with shield
they are disc healer u mean?
Do you have any logs?
disc doesnt do big direct healing like holy priest
but it provides dmg comparable to yours if stars align
while doing moderately good healing,
pain suppression last i know is priest 2minute cd -20% dr on target
It’s hard for us to answer why you’re paper without logs. Otherwise we can just give some general advice
Are you maintaining shield block? Are you keeping the things hitting you in front of you? Are you generating and spending rage properly? Are you pressing your shield wall button
are you taking magic damage unmitgated
Well @undone beacon what if I want to maintain the current level of value
What kinda flate handles that
You simply dont flate at all
Triple pulling those first packs in Nexus was exhilarating on an 11.
Light infused nathrezim go hard
Would've been easier if the dps weren't hot garbage

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, nish thinking it is canned fish
Bro the canned fish reviews are peak
mmm mercury
I hope they bring back death logs to details/blizz meters
Expand
I look at my deaths to rot often
when you die in a key, you can see how you die, but once you release theres no option like there used to be of seeing a timeline of how you die in the damage meters
or at least I havnt found one
yeah death recap is fucking useless
i'll look into ordering some more cans next month, been craving
need Nuri sardines...

the GOAT website


how is AA boys
Looks like archon talents aren't using tough as nails or bloodborn and instead using bsv and bloodsurge.
Thats a more defensive talents set?
Harder than DF but not bad imo
me have 7 aa but it have fort, and that 3 pack before vex
only really scary part for me, the mana wyrms is skill issue
its easier then first week DF
i can see it now... we will get to that part, and i will go boom
I'm not huge into canned fish but Costco got these recently and I'm enjoying it
cuz all 3 packs will get pulled
i don't really like canned tuna
you should try some high quality sardines if you get a chance
its been a while since ive had canned fish
king oscar is a good entry level brand
anything cheaper than that is generally gonna suck
Strangely enough I feel like the only part that felt more difficult was the trash before last boss
other than a few less common ones like Polar
compared to DF
I live in New England so getting fresh fish is ez
but I could prob make some dank meals with canned tuna
sky reach is hardest dungeon
for whatever reason, the worms from Crawth to magic bro also hurt
high quality canned sardines are kinda their own thing entirely though
at least they hurt my DK
like you aren't wanting them to be fresh
they're preserved in oil with different spices and stuff
and anything worth buying comes in EVOO
oh yeah for sure
Honestly AA may be my least favorite dungeon this season
I said it
I have the takes this morning
if AA is your least favorite... then honestly its gonna be a good season for you

theres a magic with AA
if you get to the final boss with more than 90 seconds remaining, you instantly with the key
cuz dora is a joke boss
cause its a wrath dungeon
Scotty Pippin made my sword u guys
and does literal nothing if you have even an 1/8th of a brain cell activated and look at screen
just a target dummy with some avoids
Pit feels weird because its a wrath dungeon swarming with shadowlands models lol
But its not awful
that final AA boss is so much free its unreal
now, when it comes to pit of saron, i take the boss close to where there is a group of 3 body piles right
and near 1 mage pile the green aura dust ontop of it
is it better for them to do 3 normal pile, or 1 normal + 1 magic pile
i wonder how scary how the magic dude actually is
I would've made your sword for free dude smh
You're an awesome dungeon swarming with awesome models
Gottem
you never want more than one light pile up
ah dang
2 is more or less over
cuz the normal little adds, i can just big taunt them and we nuke them
Haven't done Pit on anything higher than a 5 yet.
you have 2 up it's over
so we should aim for hit all of the light piles?
you can only hit 4 of 5
Seems super easy. Paladin stays winning as we can just freedom the kidnap attempts.
and you focus the remaining add
Ret Paladin is S tier for weekly 12s
30s CDs go brrrrrrrr
the first boss of pit of saron is excessively free too
minus the getting to him part
I fucking hate having 2 min CD
complete do nothing
The best comp for weekly keys is Blood DK, Ret Paladin, Fury Warrior, Frost Mage, Resto Sham
dont @ me
make rock, smash rock, rock has big circle, bunch of little circle, hide behind remaining rock repear
could slot in a DPS DH in there to
that pash energy ill allow it

Gimme a DH, Warrior and Shaman. We big blasting.
Femboy energy is unique and wonderful
you want a DK somewhere in the comp
grip is really strong for weeklies

Dev DH does own
we get a lil ranged
but I like mage
I want chaos brand
I wanna do a weekly key on my frost mage and havoc dh this week
i have idea, spell, de-bow/gun archer mobs
just to keep them up to date
those annoying archers
that just sit there, spamming arrows at you
15 meters out of the group
then he pulls his buddies
so, you take his bow away, now he has to come punch or stab you
i hate going for pull and having straggler mob
then its attacking healer and healer dies
We give the Warrior a grip type ability. We call it...Steel Grasp.
Meathook
Not like we haven't stolen skills from Diablo before.
Didnt they give prot warrs a meathook grip thing in SoD?
meat hook is one of my go to trinkets for str agility
since there is many variations on it
not nearly as broken though
creator of the music
Mick Gordon:
https://youtube.com/c/MickGordon
#doomslayer
also cuz meathook from doom
since they have to choose between chains/misery
in the games and as a music tune
that tank is 100% struggling with an identity
they are good at tanking demons and nothing else, boom class fantasy achieved
VDH is meh atm to play
do we really need that
i think not
but people really like it
also, the two Dev DH in my guild are straight gas
great heroic logs
Guys I’m finding in algethar I’m having to kite a fair but especially with the bleeds. I’m not doing anything crazy 10’s 11’s haven’t had much time to play. I’m playing with a holy pal as my healer but finding its very grim I don’t have a log to share but I’ll try get one. For example that first pull before tree it’s grim as hell to do in one we wiped. Any tips?
The first pull is a dps check
The stuff needs to die asap or you’re gonna die
It’s a hard pull that was made harder
I honestly don’t think currently it’s a good idea to do that initial pull in pugs. A lot of people don’t have a ton of gear and a lot of people are “coming back”
If you have a five stack it may just require practice
cannot stand in green or GG as well, pulling many can make that tougher
I’d say if that initial pull lasts a minute your dps failed you
Or maybe if it surpasses the minute mark of being in combat
@undone beacon did I echo you and Nish correctly
Yeah I’m moving out the green it’s more so the stacks and I was kiting etc when possible but thanks for the advice we will have to practise it
More or less yeah
Doing the full room pull is a hard dps check
If you’re not confident in your dps, just split the pull. The timer is pretty lenient
hi guys, I had the rare neck from last boss, how can I utlize by do shadow damage
There’s gloves from Seat of the Trium that can proc shadow damage
And I think one of the embellishments does shadow but it’s not that great
thank you I have to look for the hands
Welcome to Seat hell, friend.
More than likely I need to be using defensive stance too
Yes you should stay in defensive stance the whole dungeon really
No reason to go to battle stance
You’re hard inting if you’re not in dstance
Anyone got a nice looking addon for the scrolling combat text (only received dmg)?
Yeahhhh don’t use battle stance especially in dungeons
You can use it in raid if you want to try to parse and arent at risk of dying but
Generally just sit dstance
Oh how the times change
Yeah I’m kind of used to battle but thanks for the info
Dstance used to reduce your damage done by a flat %, they changed that in TWW
now it’s just big tanky goodness
So what can one use ten gilded crests for? I have 150. But all the uses seem to be in increments of 20 or 80. So am I just gonna have ten extra forever?
😭
Unless this is an alt
Cause technically you can get one character the gilded achieve for the discount on alts
Not an alt. 😭
Ye, suffer
Wait, are the 10 from the ?? Nemesis
Cause he gives 30 that don't count towards cap, so would round you out back to multiples of 20
You get 5 myth for your first ?? Nullaues kill a week
if I have an hero weapon (bis stats) and shield hero , what should I craft with my myth crest. still the weapon? thx all
Still the weapon yes
ty
For future reference as well, ilvl is the most important factor when choosing a weapon or shield.
only worry about the stats on them if you actually have the option at equal ilvl
Should make it give hero loot too
Really upset people
Even if it's once a week
ive done it 3 times already
Prot War was easiest, then blood dk, then prot pal
gonna try it on havoc and frost mage soonish
tbd
I tried bdk but it was not fun so I did with group
I will say blood is a bit rough when undergeared
Having to def cd every single tank buster, from the start
I know
I did it on my priest with guildies and for some reason when Valeera was set to dps the boss kept dropping aggro and killing the dps
and with def cd -50% health hit
But dps will whine
Set her to healer, easy kill
I dont think its worth doing ?? once a week for 5 myth crests regardless
agree
do it once, get the free uncapped crests
never again
heck, most content now is completely useless for me now that M+ is a thing
Yeah with 10s being out and so easy its kinda pointless
I have because im ravenous for cosmetics and i want the stinky wyrm mount
Looks like archon talents aren't using tough as nails or bloodborn and instead using bsv and bloodsurge.
https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/protection/warrior/mythic-plus/talents/10/all-dungeons/this-week
prob just preference
none of those talents are essential
If I’m trying to get gear to tank as off spec, do I just need a 1H/Shield, most other gear is interchangeable?
Coming from Fury
more or less yeah
Prioritize haste
get a 1-h and shield
go nuts
yea, just focus on your main fury spec
and use leftover on prot
Yeah haste is my dominant substat atm, so that works
also, big value for you is that when you get a 2h you get free upgrades on shields and swords
Oh hell yeah, love that
you might need to spec into arms for a second
Eww
but I assume as a fury war you already crafted a 2h
Yeah I got Myth 2H
I haven’t tanked since WotLK lol, anything major I need to know?
Keep shield block up, dont let mobs get behind you, hit shield slam, win
oh damn 65% of ppl are using pain and gain
just press buttons
thats good to know
Do I face roll left to right, or right to left?
Pain and gain is the heal per hit from class tree ?
WAIT FOR TWO SUNDER STACKS BOYS
hmm
Yeah I take it too, I don’t play stormbolt or intervene
Is Thane or Colossus the play for Prot?
wait for 2 thunder clap okay guys
Thane currently, but colossus isnt far behind
if u dont, u will die
I play Slayer so I might play Colossus’s just so I don’t get tempted to Thane on Fury as well 🙂
Appreciate the help, much appreciated
why the hell do i want disrupting shout
To be disruptive 😉
AoE Silence got some use cases
For when your pug group keeps trying to sabotage your nexus point key by running on top of you constantly with suppression field
disrupting seems meh this expac
nothing super annoying like last boss of Nokhud
fuck that guy
that boss was crazy lol
Reflect was goated tho
I like it in theory as a mass silence, but it usually feels like everything is always just 1 yard out of range for it.
I like it in terrace for when theres 18 howling terrors about to go off at any given moment in the second half
theres no reason not to take disrupting shout in keys
its a pretty free point with good util
Would be better if it worked as a silence on your allies. At least then I could have a second or two to gather everything properly before the squad just derps everything instantly.
wow, based
friendly fire interrupts

A guy can dream.
Wrecking throw the demon hunter
stormbolt your healer
prob need to wait for more kills
log more guardian druids that are skill diff
but no doubt Prot War is super strong defensively in this raid
Alnseer on vet worth?
@plush tendon I will say that I wish prot pally had SLIGHTLY more ST damage.
just slightly

Just need to nerf brewmasters damage and defensive and all will be right in the world
Prot Pal needs more ST damage and more passive DR (and quite frankly more health)
no!
no nerfs
only buffs
make all tanks OP
yes nerfs

MAKE BREWMASTER DEAD
I'm with Augusto here
Bring all tanks up dont put your brothers in tanking down
The game is better when tanks are stronk
Game is BiS when tanks are OP
MAKE BREWMASTER DEAD
When i look at archon, doesnt it indicate that the bsv talent setup is the most popular one?
Game is best when I’m doing awesomely
While I wouldn't say no to any of that I think the ST damage is my main gripe.
True
I also hate the crit wings vs sent node
the ENTIRE front page was all warriors last season. do you think they should've nerfed us
Just delete sent from the game
AoE is pretty awesome at least.
Oh, you'd prefer they just yeet Sentinel and buff base mit?
100%
I dont play ppal why is everyone always yapping about Sentinel i thought Sentinels were night elves smh
Even first pull of MT. Instant 5-600k DPS.
lizard brain go nuts
gong
We need things to talk about
Prot war too stable
A WARRIOR CAN DREAM AGAIN
I would like to talk about tracking IP
People havent asked if we run 4/4 apex in a while
Help I keep hearing deadlock sound effects in my head
https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/protection/warrior/mythic-plus/talents/10/all-dungeons/this-week
Is the recommended talents (the one with with bsv) 19% or 77% popularity?
Lmao
Silence, Blood Death Knight
I WILL NOT FALL
I keep hearing the heavy melee sound
That thing is sick
Hey! I’ve been told I may be swapping to prot war at some undisclosed time in the future
Your raid can't make up their mind
I do what the RL commands
Its sick but i dont want light beam piercing my eyes all key smh
Fck it im going to use the archon recommended instead of iv at least for now
are you scared of dying in the key level you're doing
Im my 11s no not really. But I also limit my pull count to avoid dying
coward
I mean.. I could pull everything in pit of sorrow up to boss 1 and then hide behind a corner but thay would almost certainly kill me
i mean yeah it's reasonable to take bsv if you feel like you need the safety net. you just lose a decent chunk of damage
theres really not a wrong talent build at this point
as long as you have the main talent points, those other points you reference are really preference
so do whatever you like
How much dps loss to swap tan to bsv. Also bloodsurge instead of bloodborn
its like
3% of damage dealt from shield spikes thing
skyreach is the only place i feel like id actually always want it
stupid ass bleed stacking mobs
Heroic Averzian. I never get the adds so this is purely single target. It just feels terrible.
Is there a decent way to track uptime like shield block on myself in combat? Like get an alert when its running out?
you'll have to set what you want there but you wont even have to log out or anything for that one
Hey bros any advancements on seeing IP value instead of duration with cooldown manager?
its unnecessary information
you should be pressing IP as a rage dump pretty consistently and theres very little value in tracking IP
but if you really want to see it, I would bet the addon 'better cooldown manager' probably has a setting
the base blizz one is a bit restrictive
what are we tanking at? I’m 255 ilvl getting demolished in 11s
windrunner first room the magic hurts
10s non issue for me
I was 250; felt fine in 11s and 10s
252 no problem
even in 11s? Maybe my healer sucked
if they feel tough now, remember its week 1 and you are already doing max reward keys
each week its gonna get easier and easier
by a lot
imagine if you were like 285 doing these 10s? Absolute snoozefest

Welp, got all of my portals. That was quick. xD
Easiest M+ season ever
Shadowlands could never be this easy
Is it truly that easy? Here I was thinking I'd just gotten better.
It can be a bit of both
thanks, i found a workaround using Sensei resource bars to show shield value
Definitely both
I'm speaking from my own POV. Portals were a little tougher to achieve in prior expansions by comparison.
Is there a average uptime we want to be around for having shield block up?
Is crafting shield good? Maxed out a hero shield by mistake. Kinda wanted to craft alch trinket.🙌
100
wanna share this here, my healing got significantly better, this in a +2 with pugs. Tank pulled the whole fucking dungeon and this Paladin stepped in EVERYTHING, Nexus dungeon O_o
i feel like beethoven
What haste are you at for 100%?
im trying to figure out what is the reasoning for this macro
why exactly replace ignore pain
does ignore pain have a reset of shield slam or something?
Because your melee attack or literally anything else can reset ss, so u just use that to snipe resets
Wow its done 10% which its always done
Cause they never changed it
lol
i swear it was lower in the past
well not the ability itself
oh maybe that was when we used indom
more
Nah its always been around 10%
I really, REALLY wish they did a sweeping pass of the racials and rebalanced them or just made it so you can pick racials. Some are just way better than others, but I don't wanna be a dwarf or a furry >_>
Just make it something you pick once and have to pay to switch shrug People would still do it.
That’s why I said 80% not 100%, I think most people who buy race change is bc they fomo racials or 0.5% dps increase
Once again advocating for them to remove combat and stat related racials and allow us to pick racials as a background system
Leave the profession and flavor ones like nightborne mailbox or furry tent
But any combat enhancement or utility should be on a background system, same with stats
My character was raised as a tinkerer, they have goblin rocket jump
Raised as a little urchin boy? You get meld
lol furry tent wtf

Tauren best. Warstomp is fun
fuck no
That's me tomorrow
What addons are available to see my own debuffs / private auras in Mythic+?
DBM and BigWigs only show debuffs during boss encounters, but not trash. I couldn't find a way to enable it for M+ trash.
I would like a better frame alternative thean what Blizz default UI has.
we didnt deserve to make it
He was not, in fact, auramaxxing
as i suspected the purple wyrms destoyed the pug
lots of times i died i didnt need to
Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose
Theres a channel dedicated to UI and Addons like APB said, ask there
guys i think we have a new one
No reason to be a jerk about it
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated
Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose
Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose
Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated
.
Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose
Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.
LMFAO
Just to clarify we are more or less always in Dstance
Correct
There is almost never a good reason to leave dstance, unless you're trying to jockey for a parse in raid
Still that discussion?
3% crit and crit damage is not worth 20% DR and an extra DR on big hits
Same as it ever was
dude those guys are more dense than people in bgs
Answered questions are usually very similar
People tend to come asking the same handful of questions
Varies week to week
Last week it was all "Guys do we run 4/4 apex or 1/4 apex like Kira said"
lol
lol sorry
completely different matter, i am under the impression majestic hide drop chance was massively increased
Nah dont apologize, its okay. Its why we're here, to help clarify 
which is important for us because crafted gear needs it
These are always the biggest self owns
if its me i don't even count that shit lol
sometimes
i say i will block ppl then i dont
On some dpsdmg shit
did someone else notice that?
i have never blocked anybody here unless they were incredibly stupid
I dont do professions I just nag people in my guild to make shit so
I block melee hits
im doing aell the patron orders that dont want me to pay 5000gold in bars
I will say majestic hides def cost a lot on ah like 16k on my server
well i spent most of the time since release doing professions on different alts
30 k on mine
Why tf flasks cost 1400 golds
oh wow
the sad part about flasks is that theres barely any gold to be made right now on them too
like people are selling the flasks for cost
Oh wait no it was 20 sry
1400 is flask cost ???
The money is in loti
yeah pretty much
and gold vials
they 1k on my server at least
wat u mean loti
Plural of lotus
i think they badly need to rework the amount of bars required for some black smithing items
oh like gathering
3k each rn
gotcha
yeah
12 copper bars that costs minimum 1000gold
like making money with alchemy is pointless right now
literally nothing sells for more than cost
its strange
markets flooded quick this time around
yeah raw mats are where the money's at
Gathering bruno mars style
With finesse
badumm tiss
careful not talking about addons or ui or something that one guy is gonna block you

Gotcha
fate worse than death
finesse is the goat stat
yeah totally
Free 3k gold every hour
lol people have too much money
I aint got the rep to charge for 10s 
Well go get that fame then
post in /2
you can advertise on your own now to
some guildies were doing it Tuesday night in the group finder
there is a 'carry offered' option
just need some friends

I wanna kill him next
He's on my casual gamer to do list
he's p easy
neither
i did it as a 242 with a level 16 valeera
does he have enrage?
I did it at about the same as Pash
towards the end he hits harder and harder
but you prot war
you big boy
i guess so





