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undone beacon
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NoVA weather is wild, a few weeks ago we had one day that was 85 degrees and then it snowed the next

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Then we had a tornado watch for a bit

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Today it was low of 32 high of 60

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Going insane

solid sun
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85 here and 69 now

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I also have birds around here that are singing rn at 11:44 pm

waxen frigate
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lol

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Wait 11:44 tf

undone beacon
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i live next to a hotel i dont get quiet anymore

waxen frigate
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Your clock is off

solid sun
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No your clock is off

undone beacon
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yeah isnt it 11:38?

solid sun
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Now it's 11:45

waxen frigate
undone beacon
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well, 12:38 in god's favorite timezone

waxen frigate
undone beacon
solid sun
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Your discord is so weird

undone beacon
solid sun
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Hey did you know there's a sync now button for your clock

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That's crazy

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You should do that since your time is off

undone beacon
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Check out my stupid fat chud cat

astral pendant
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Currently a moo cow so I do hear you. Not yet sure if it’s a pill I can swallow, like where even are the damn portals?!!!

waxen frigate
undone beacon
hoary moat
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El gato

undone beacon
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She do be a ho

hoary moat
waxen frigate
solid sun
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Pash

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My bear friend died three times on the plant pull in AA

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Said he didn’t realize it was fortified so he let IF drop

undone beacon
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Hard pull + bad bear sorry

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Of all the pulls to let IF drop that is NOT it

solid sun
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Does bear just keep if up

solid sun
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And then sometimes have more

waxen frigate
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it's their mit

undone beacon
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You generally want to keep at least 1 ironfur stack up

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For Armor and for Mastery buff

waxen frigate
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i died on AA first pull today as brew because our druid was doing 20k dps

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as feral

solid sun
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I didn’t know you were back back

vernal storm
waxen frigate
solid sun
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Sometimes I don’t do great on that pull

undone beacon
waxen frigate
solid sun
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Like I’ll avoid green circle one way and tank goes other way

waxen frigate
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it's a dps check more than a survivability check

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oh you mean as dps

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nvm shitter get good

solid sun
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And then I’m sad

undone beacon
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Honestly doing that pull is def a dps check

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If it doesn’t die in under a minute you’re turbo fucked as tank

solid sun
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Not me I’m built diff

waxen frigate
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you do not have the means to survive that pull for an extended period of time

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never have

undone beacon
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Yeah just making sure the stinky lurkers know

solid sun
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You just need the will to survive

undone beacon
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They made it harder this season too

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They don’t want people pulling big in AA lol

solid sun
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Whatever they did at the end

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With the bladestorms

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Can kiss my ass

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I don’t remember it being that annoying before

undone beacon
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iirc before the mobs themselves spun, they didn’t leave a spinning pool or whatever

waxen frigate
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yeah you tanked them on the stairs so you could z-axis it

solid sun
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I hate it

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Gonna do it high enough to secure 3k and then never go in there again

waxen frigate
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damn bro in my key is dropping a feast for a 4

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😋

rocky crest
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Anyone else having issues as prot in AA vs those battle axes on the bridges and before ele boss?

It starts fine but then i get dropped like a sack of shit. It seems they have a hidden ramp up dmg that doesn't show?

Or is it just me?

waxen frigate
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its a bleed

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and can stack

rocky crest
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Really? Lol how tf did j miss that

waxen frigate
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also parryable/dodgeable

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at least was in df

rocky crest
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Only bleed i saw was vile bite in 1st oull

waxen frigate
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maybe lucky parries then you got unlucky once

blissful pecan
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there is no bleed from the axes, they melee for arcane damage which is why it hurts

waxen frigate
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oh they took it out?

blissful pecan
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yeah

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they do arcane damage on every melee

rocky crest
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They hurt as hell in 12s atleast also the timer seems super tight

waxen frigate
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its day 2 big dawg

rocky crest
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No big dawgs here they are in the brew channel

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Just old guys drinkin coffee on a thursday morning

waxen frigate
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yessir

rocky crest
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The spy among us

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The never ending q every xpac when to drop HR for ITF?

waxen frigate
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think its pinned

rocky crest
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Tldr check pins

waxen frigate
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oh its not pinned

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it's 1188 haste

rocky crest
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🫡

mint shadow
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anyone with 4pc got some numbers on the drop of the extra catalysts? i feel like i got one quickly, within 4 dungeons, but now it's been like 10 without a drop

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wonder if there's a weekly/daily cap or what other drop rate info is out there

tame jasper
ebon geyser
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got shoulders from vault... get shoulders from delve...

ebon geyser
hexed basin
maiden ravine
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He did the math.

waxen frigate
ebon geyser
jagged pier
ebon geyser
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Is there a way to mute the warrior yells

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I dont need a rawr on every single thing

slow pilot
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get used to it my guy, comes with the class, about a quarter of our stuff are just yells in various forms

fringe mural
frosty mango
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Is it really no crafted shield this round?

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Guide doesn’t list it but my brain doesn’t understand the logic why

sharp gale
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First boss has shield

frosty mango
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I ain’t gonna have time to raid for weeks

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If at all

fringe mural
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of course crafted shield is gud

frosty mango
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Looks like I’m pleb craftin

coarse bay
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Can do both now though

sharp gale
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But yeah crafted is still best first/second temporary craft

fringe mural
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how high do the keystones have to be for you to get mythic crests?

sharp gale
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9s

fringe mural
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asking for another pleb non raider

fringe mural
sharp gale
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If you do a bountiful delve 11 you get a quest giving you 20 myth crest asking you to do a key

fringe mural
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Cool

sharp gale
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And if you are rank 4 of delve journey, you can get 20 myth crests per week from delves

fringe mural
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do you get 20 each week from +11 delves?

sharp gale
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It’s only if you are rank 4

fringe mural
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Then i'll make use of the delve event this week

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for more journey

sharp gale
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You have the gilded stash as listed loot when you select the delve lvl

fringe mural
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i see

sharp gale
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Bountiful delve, you don’t need a delve key

fringe mural
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does it need to be 11 or is 8+ fine for the weekly things?

sharp gale
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I think it is 11 bountiful

fringe mural
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gotcha

sharp gale
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8+ is for the vault

fringe mural
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I'm at 9 now i think

fringe mural
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but first going to work like a good peon

waxen cradle
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How big of a lock in is a crafted shield for us guys, I am having a hard time weighing it, I have like 3 heroic shields and since a shield drops off the first boss in Mythic I cant decide how much of a hard lock in a crafted shield is because yes I can get my best secondarys but its gonna feel like ass if I craft one and then a few weeks later I kill the first boss of mythic and one drops

tame jasper
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Ask yourself how long it will take until you kill mythic 1st boss. That‘s the time you will at least (we dont know if it drops, havnt seen it in 7 lfr/nhc/hc yet) get benefit from craftet shild. But also we can have a mythic shield in vault from wednesday on

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In the end its gamble. I had several seasons where I craftet shild first and got one in first two vaults, but also seasons where I never had one in vault at all

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For example I upgraded hero legs to 6/6 last werk because I knew I will gain the player power of them for at lesdt two weeks (most prob longer as with 6/6 other items have higher prio to get replaced)

rocky crest
fringe mural
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fight rng with rng

pastel geyser
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Anyone knows if its a dps increase for burst to play manual ravager? I see it increases clappa/rend dmg while active

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But im not sure how often the auto ravager procs or its internal cd

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Its just a bit annoying when it procs on hc throws lol

rocky crest
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Sim it

pulsar jay
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this discord got a good talent loadout for M+?

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nvm found it

little bough
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do u play with defensive stance or not in keys?

pearl ravine
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i got some stance dance macros personally like battle stance whenever i start executing but otherwise i mainly stay in def stance

karmic plinth
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use b stance for stuff that you cant die on

molten gorge
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are the sims broken / bugged atm btw or? Mastery is surprisingly high no?

pastel geyser
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is battle stance even worth it? u lose a lot of damage reduction for 3% crit

errant wagon
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I battle stance all the time. Everything matters

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just don't be dumb and greed

fallow beacon
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lads ive peaked

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its all downhill from here

errant wagon
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you're the bastard above me!

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big grats man lmao

fallow beacon
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we can chalk it up to ilvl diff 😅 I got giga lucky in m+ today

errant wagon
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Oh shit that is high, didn't even notice.
I LC and low-priority tank so 🫥

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na I coulda battle stanced more...

ionic fern
pastel geyser
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cant seem to get above 40-45k

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4 set im guessing?

jagged pier
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4 set isnt that big

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just play mostly

fallow beacon
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shield slam good

cerulean tusk
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This overall looks scuffed, is it scuffed?

jagged pier
errant wagon
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i'm kinda just playing the same priority order as last season.
Shield slam, TC, Revenge

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and the big dam happening

lofty glen
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it kinda feels like we are getting fucked in some dungeons. is that right or am i just a bad player?

ionic fern
cerulean tusk
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aca

pearl ravine
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24,6k overall dps as prot war for m5 key idk how to feel about it

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with 238 ilvl is this decent score or dogwater?

small garden
pearl ravine
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what consumables are widely used by tanks in midnight?

lofty warren
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icy veins

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its the only guide that is legal for pwar

echo egret
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I want to craft a ring to cover a slot that refuses to drop... which of the 3 crafted should I take ?

raw parcel
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At least for Brew, that Loa ring is amazing

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It's not 1:1, but there's some overlap between tanks. Check the wowhead guide to know for sure.

compact silo
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How much rage is generated per auto attack?

waxen ivy
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How much is avoidance worth? aka is the one with avoidance better even though its vers mastery?

compact silo
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And does haste affect the ticking for dots(rend)?

daring marlin
compact silo
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Instigate vs bloodsurge for m+?
I know it's instigate on most builds. I'm wondering about big pulling

pearl ravine
daring marlin
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Tertiaries are more of a "oh cool I have this also" than anything

chrome cipher
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Weird question to ask here but I figure we're tanks so we'd have the knowledge, why is RWF tanking the Voidspire dragons together? Isn't it dangerous cuz they get 100% increased damage or did that change?

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I ask cuz im tanking it

solid sun
ornate palm
chrome cipher
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Im sorry, hot boxes?

ornate palm
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Wow autocorrect. Hit Boxes.

chrome cipher
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oh okay, but I feel like that doesn't change my confusion about them being so close. 🤔

vale escarp
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The dragons can stand pritty close together without buffing each other

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And If they are close enought you can cleave them which makes the fight shorter, so there is less time to fail

chrome cipher
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That much I know I just wasnt sure if anything changed.

ornate palm
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It’s tough to visualize since hit boxes are invisible. We played around with it for funzies and it’s pretty wild how close you can get them them enraging.

raw parcel
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In my experience the wowhead and icyveins guides tend to say basically the same thing?

chrome cipher
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This just feels like closer than 15 yards to me. LMAO

vale escarp
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As you see they arent enraged.

steel locust
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I have been looking over the comments as I have decided to try to tank and want to make sure that I set myself up for success as much as possible. couple of questions to start off with. 1. Why are wowhead and icyveins so different in relation to the spec for mythic+, and 2. Why are people saying that icyveins is the go to now?

ornate palm
chrome cipher
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Yeah this just screams to me their hit box is smaller than larger i guess

ornate palm
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That’s an interesting way to look at it. Regardless it’s from the center of the hit box, and those dragons be dragons, so they’re models aren’t small.

solid sun
# raw parcel Why not?

The writer, while a good player, isn’t a pwar main and isn’t active here. Our former wowhead writer retired and the new guy is filling in. Our very own Mwahi handles the IV guide so asking questions and stuff is facilitated a lot easier since he’s here and awesome

chrome cipher
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They are right on top of eachother for the sake of my question and hit boxes but thanks for your help.

ornate palm
chrome cipher
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There was no paragraph stating it but the casters discuss it https://youtu.be/Sj1cUXNKJT4?t=1755

fading dirge
chrome cipher
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Okay thanks

daring marlin
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I've seen some shit

drowsy comet
vivid brook
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Guys maybe a stupid question but do you guys switch stances mid fight ? I´m new to warrior Tank and all warris i can see in higher logs are playing 100% defense stance

undone beacon
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We do not stance dance as it is called, we sit in defensive

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Swapping stances is giving up a ton of defensiveness for marginal dps

fringe mural
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like when waiting for adds or smth

undone beacon
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Even then, it’s not recommended unless you know what your doing and your main goal is to eke out a parse

fringe mural
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but you will also forget switching back when necessary and healers will hate you for it

undone beacon
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Just stay in dstance and don’t worry about it

fringe mural
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yeah

vivid brook
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ty cause one of my raid told me he would never tank in defensive stance and i was not sure about that tbh ty for the answer

undone beacon
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Never tank in defensive stance? That’s just dumb

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In ye olden days defensive stance used to actually reduce your damage by a flat %, but that was removed in TWW

raw parcel
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..even back then I tanked in defensive because it was my safety blanky.

undone beacon
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You def would’ve been chided here haha

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You used to put more effort into swapping between the two because dealing flat less damage sucks butt, glad they did away with that

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Plus the actual dps gain from bstance these days is so minimal. 3% crit and 3% crit damage with stance mastery is pretty mid compared to how much DR dstance brings

plush tendon
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its more prevelent in raid

fringe mural
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yeah plus human error

plush tendon
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where you'll have downtime on tanking bosses

fringe mural
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you will 100% forget stance dance in the heat of the moment

plush tendon
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so the damage is better then the DR from D stance

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but for ease of use, you can just sit in D-Stance 100% of the time if you want

fringe mural
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You can also use intervene on cd during off times

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so dstance would be good even then

daring marlin
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ur dun

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jk I'm probably gonna have to tank all my keys

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Forever stuck in tank hell

vast epoch
near garden
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Hey quick question.
When Im dpsing mythic dungeons, 10s and above, Im watching the tanks healthbar bounce all over the place like its fn looneytoons. is the tank letting mitigation fall off? or is that just how it is?

plush tendon
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depends on the tank

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and its still week 1

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like on Prot War my healtbar is stable, but when I play Blood... .yea, that shit is a slingshot

near garden
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I try to rally to give the tank a boost if shit gets dire. I give up on tracking that for blood xD

plush tendon
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Blood is 100% in their own hands

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I have a ret paladin friend who sacs me on pull

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which helps a ton

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but then his health ping pongs XD

undone beacon
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I said it

undone beacon
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Everyone spammed the stupid fucking “lizard button” meme until I wanted to go insane and now whenever I see him I am filled with ire

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Sitting in VCs with people just spamming “lizard” like shhhhh stop

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I’m just a hater

vast epoch
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Pash, hater of Lizards sadge

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Understandable reasoning tho

waxen frigate
tribal wharf
pastel geyser
daring marlin
undone beacon
tribal wharf
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so, that, and pain and gain is dead for keys?
its just too weak?
the question is always “what talent are you going to drop for it”

undone beacon
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Which features a silly lizard character being silly

tribal wharf
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so i do take it?

daring marlin
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Are you sure about that? I never saw that on twitter

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🤔

undone beacon
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it was i swear i couldnt escape that little shit

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twitter

daring marlin
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😉

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You said ALL OVER

undone beacon
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gonna make a tumblr style hate blog

daring marlin
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No youtube either!

tribal wharf
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modern day disney sucks ass

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everything they made that was good was up to 60's and 70's maybe bit in 80s

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in the past there was a reason ppl revered the mouse so much

tribal wharf
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and its not JUST mickey mouse, but its like, all the cartoons

daring marlin
tribal wharf
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90's was good sure

pastel geyser
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ive seen some memes with lizard

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quite a few actually

tribal wharf
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bro, the old looney tunes and bugs bunny and porky pig donald duck

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from 1960s, is so much superior to anything we have today

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those cartoons will live on as legends for 1000 years at this point

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with how wide spread they went

tribal wharf
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i aint clickin it

undone beacon
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one day they will all enter the public domain and be turned into slop horror movies by Blumhouse

undone beacon
tribal wharf
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i mean, okay yes, you arent wrong

tribal wharf
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its like, if i say comic books and mix up marvel and dc

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this is prime "yogi gets it wrong"

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territory

daring marlin
tribal wharf
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i do this with EVERYTHING, i bought some pc parts and i had to return it or i couldnt make it work (corsair fans that need special hook up/software?

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and i went into their discord

solid sun
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Conflating is such a weird word

undone beacon
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conflating is a great word

solid sun
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It’s like inflating

tribal wharf
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and i said, oh haha you guys make nice XYZ ABC 123 parts (2/3 groups) said like cases or something

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"we don't make cases"

solid sun
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But it has nothing to do with balloons

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So it’s weird

tribal wharf
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this, is, forever and always

undone beacon
tribal wharf
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i will fuck it up

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there is no hope to solve this part of my life

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but old disney was just, incredible

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donald mother fuckin duck

solid sun
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Inflate
Deflate
Conflate

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One doesn’t belong

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Also whatever happened to flate

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Like what if something just needs to be flated

undone beacon
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Conflate is to raise the value of something in relation to something else, so it still fits. Inflate increases value, deflate decreases value, conflate compares values

solid sun
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Oh yeah?

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Well

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Heckin nerd dragon

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Also how is it raising the value in relation to something else if we say like you’re conflating Disney with all animation

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I don’t think that means Disney is being raised to all animation values

undone beacon
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You're giving Disney more value by saying that Disney is equivalent to all of animation history

solid sun
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They just got mixed up

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But what if it’s poop animation

tribal wharf
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my point that 20's to 70's disney was UNSTOPPABLE

undone beacon
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Conflation and mixing things up often go hand in hand

solid sun
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That would be lowering the value right

undone beacon
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Then you'd be raising the value of the "poop animation" to disney levels

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Conflating is a comparison

fathom meteor
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why does it feel like im paper even with my shield in the air and pain supp on spam

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sometimes

solid sun
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You’re conflating paper with shield

tribal wharf
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they are disc healer u mean?

solid sun
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Do you have any logs?

tribal wharf
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disc doesnt do big direct healing like holy priest

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but it provides dmg comparable to yours if stars align

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while doing moderately good healing,

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pain suppression last i know is priest 2minute cd -20% dr on target

solid sun
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It’s hard for us to answer why you’re paper without logs. Otherwise we can just give some general advice

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Are you maintaining shield block? Are you keeping the things hitting you in front of you? Are you generating and spending rage properly? Are you pressing your shield wall button

tribal wharf
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are you taking magic damage unmitgated

solid sun
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Well @undone beacon what if I want to maintain the current level of value

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What kinda flate handles that

undone beacon
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You simply dont flate at all

daring marlin
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Triple pulling those first packs in Nexus was exhilarating on an 11.

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Light infused nathrezim go hard

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Would've been easier if the dps weren't hot garbage

jagged pier
undone beacon
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Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, nish thinking it is canned fish

jagged pier
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Bro the canned fish reviews are peak

daring marlin
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mmm mercury

plush tendon
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I hope they bring back death logs to details/blizz meters

daring marlin
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I look at my deaths to rot often

plush tendon
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when you die in a key, you can see how you die, but once you release theres no option like there used to be of seeing a timeline of how you die in the damage meters

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or at least I havnt found one

daring marlin
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Oh that

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nvm

plush tendon
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I know I could look at a log

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but thats super cumbersome mid key

undone beacon
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yeah death recap is fucking useless

waxen frigate
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need Nuri sardines...

jagged pier
undone beacon
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I'll nuri your sardine

waxen frigate
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the GOAT website

jagged pier
waxen frigate
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although i cant remember if you're american

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they only ship in the US

jagged pier
tribal wharf
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how is AA boys

lofty warren
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Looks like archon talents aren't using tough as nails or bloodborn and instead using bsv and bloodsurge.

Thats a more defensive talents set?

daring marlin
tribal wharf
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me have 7 aa but it have fort, and that 3 pack before vex

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only really scary part for me, the mana wyrms is skill issue

plush tendon
tribal wharf
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i can see it now... we will get to that part, and i will go boom

daring marlin
tribal wharf
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cuz all 3 packs will get pulled

waxen frigate
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you should try some high quality sardines if you get a chance

plush tendon
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its been a while since ive had canned fish

waxen frigate
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king oscar is a good entry level brand

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anything cheaper than that is generally gonna suck

daring marlin
waxen frigate
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other than a few less common ones like Polar

daring marlin
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compared to DF

plush tendon
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I live in New England so getting fresh fish is ez

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but I could prob make some dank meals with canned tuna

tribal wharf
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sky reach is hardest dungeon

plush tendon
waxen frigate
plush tendon
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at least they hurt my DK

waxen frigate
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like you aren't wanting them to be fresh

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they're preserved in oil with different spices and stuff

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and anything worth buying comes in EVOO

daring marlin
undone beacon
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Honestly AA may be my least favorite dungeon this season

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I said it

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I have the takes this morning

plush tendon
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if AA is your least favorite... then honestly its gonna be a good season for you

undone beacon
tribal wharf
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theres a magic with AA

plush tendon
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IDK what my fav is

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I like Pit

tribal wharf
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if you get to the final boss with more than 90 seconds remaining, you instantly with the key

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cuz dora is a joke boss

plush tendon
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cause its a wrath dungeon

toxic pewter
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Scotty Pippin made my sword u guys

tribal wharf
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and does literal nothing if you have even an 1/8th of a brain cell activated and look at screen

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just a target dummy with some avoids

undone beacon
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Pit feels weird because its a wrath dungeon swarming with shadowlands models lol

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But its not awful

tribal wharf
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that final AA boss is so much free its unreal

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now, when it comes to pit of saron, i take the boss close to where there is a group of 3 body piles right

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and near 1 mage pile the green aura dust ontop of it

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is it better for them to do 3 normal pile, or 1 normal + 1 magic pile

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i wonder how scary how the magic dude actually is

daring marlin
warm plinth
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Gottem

torn gulch
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you never want more than one light pile up

toxic pewter
torn gulch
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2 is more or less over

tribal wharf
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cuz the normal little adds, i can just big taunt them and we nuke them

torn gulch
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you take one light plus 2 small ones

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the big adds are casters with aoe pulsing

daring marlin
torn gulch
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you have 2 up it's over

tribal wharf
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so we should aim for hit all of the light piles?

torn gulch
#

you can only hit 4 of 5

daring marlin
#

Seems super easy. Paladin stays winning as we can just freedom the kidnap attempts.

torn gulch
#

and you focus the remaining add

plush tendon
daring marlin
tribal wharf
#

the first boss of pit of saron is excessively free too

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minus the getting to him part

undone beacon
#

I fucking hate having 2 min CD

tribal wharf
#

complete do nothing

undone beacon
#

I want a world where we dont take voidform

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grrrr

plush tendon
#

The best comp for weekly keys is Blood DK, Ret Paladin, Fury Warrior, Frost Mage, Resto Sham

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dont @ me

tribal wharf
#

make rock, smash rock, rock has big circle, bunch of little circle, hide behind remaining rock repear

plush tendon
#

could slot in a DPS DH in there to

daring marlin
jagged pier
#

that pash energy ill allow it

undone beacon
daring marlin
warm plinth
#

Femboy energy is unique and wonderful

plush tendon
#

grip is really strong for weeklies

daring marlin
#

Warrior tank, DPS DH/Ret/DK, Shaman heals.

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DK/War interchangable DPS/Tank

tribal wharf
#

with silence throw its less i need a dk

#

but dk is friend

plush tendon
#

you got some archer mobs

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that can be annoying

daring marlin
#

devourer kinda owns

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can be devdh

plush tendon
#

Dev DH does own

daring marlin
#

we get a lil ranged

plush tendon
#

but I like mage

daring marlin
#

I want chaos brand

plush tendon
#

I wanna do a weekly key on my frost mage and havoc dh this week

tribal wharf
#

i have idea, spell, de-bow/gun archer mobs

plush tendon
#

just to keep them up to date

tribal wharf
#

those annoying archers

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that just sit there, spamming arrows at you

#

15 meters out of the group

#

then he pulls his buddies

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so, you take his bow away, now he has to come punch or stab you

#

i hate going for pull and having straggler mob

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then its attacking healer and healer dies

daring marlin
undone beacon
#

Meathook

daring marlin
#

Not like we haven't stolen skills from Diablo before.

undone beacon
#

Didnt they give prot warrs a meathook grip thing in SoD?

tribal wharf
#

meat hook is one of my go to trinkets for str agility

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since there is many variations on it

plush tendon
#

Ill be real, Prot Was has enough CC

#

kind of the new VDH from S3 DF

plush tendon
#

not nearly as broken though

plush tendon
#

I think they could give CDR on all sigils back to VDH

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or even double sigils

tribal wharf
#

also cuz meathook from doom

plush tendon
#

since they have to choose between chains/misery

tribal wharf
#

in the games and as a music tune

plush tendon
#

that tank is 100% struggling with an identity

undone beacon
#

they are good at tanking demons and nothing else, boom class fantasy achieved

tribal wharf
#

i cant play dh cuz

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i mean

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yogi as a dh

plush tendon
#

VDH is meh atm to play

tribal wharf
#

do we really need that

plush tendon
#

havoc is fun though

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havnt played Dev DH yet

tribal wharf
#

i think not

plush tendon
#

but people really like it

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also, the two Dev DH in my guild are straight gas

#

great heroic logs

coral quartz
#

Guys I’m finding in algethar I’m having to kite a fair but especially with the bleeds. I’m not doing anything crazy 10’s 11’s haven’t had much time to play. I’m playing with a holy pal as my healer but finding its very grim I don’t have a log to share but I’ll try get one. For example that first pull before tree it’s grim as hell to do in one we wiped. Any tips?

solid sun
#

The first pull is a dps check

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The stuff needs to die asap or you’re gonna die

#

It’s a hard pull that was made harder

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I honestly don’t think currently it’s a good idea to do that initial pull in pugs. A lot of people don’t have a ton of gear and a lot of people are “coming back”

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If you have a five stack it may just require practice

tribal wharf
#

cannot stand in green or GG as well, pulling many can make that tougher

solid sun
#

I’d say if that initial pull lasts a minute your dps failed you

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Or maybe if it surpasses the minute mark of being in combat

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@undone beacon did I echo you and Nish correctly

coral quartz
#

Yeah I’m moving out the green it’s more so the stacks and I was kiting etc when possible but thanks for the advice we will have to practise it

undone beacon
#

Doing the full room pull is a hard dps check

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If you’re not confident in your dps, just split the pull. The timer is pretty lenient

hexed moth
#

hi guys, I had the rare neck from last boss, how can I utlize by do shadow damage

undone beacon
#

There’s gloves from Seat of the Trium that can proc shadow damage

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And I think one of the embellishments does shadow but it’s not that great

hexed moth
#

thank you I have to look for the hands

daring marlin
tribal wharf
#

i pulled final boss of aa

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lagged out

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cant do shit

#

log back in

#

boss dead

coral quartz
#

More than likely I need to be using defensive stance too

undone beacon
#

Yes you should stay in defensive stance the whole dungeon really

#

No reason to go to battle stance

#

You’re hard inting if you’re not in dstance

tribal wharf
#

the game defaults you to it

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when you log in

shy python
#

Anyone got a nice looking addon for the scrolling combat text (only received dmg)?

coral quartz
#

Ah really

#

I been using battle a lot

#

I’m a dumby haha

undone beacon
#

Yeahhhh don’t use battle stance especially in dungeons

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You can use it in raid if you want to try to parse and arent at risk of dying but

#

Generally just sit dstance

waxen frigate
#

Oh how the times change

coral quartz
#

Yeah I’m kind of used to battle but thanks for the info

undone beacon
#

Dstance used to reduce your damage done by a flat %, they changed that in TWW

#

now it’s just big tanky goodness

raw parcel
#

So what can one use ten gilded crests for? I have 150. But all the uses seem to be in increments of 20 or 80. So am I just gonna have ten extra forever?

maiden forge
#

Ye

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Suffer

raw parcel
#

😭

maiden forge
#

Unless this is an alt

#

Cause technically you can get one character the gilded achieve for the discount on alts

raw parcel
#

Not an alt. 😭

maiden forge
#

Ye, suffer

#

Wait, are the 10 from the ?? Nemesis

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Cause he gives 30 that don't count towards cap, so would round you out back to multiples of 20

undone beacon
#

You get 5 myth for your first ?? Nullaues kill a week

tacit wasp
#

if I have an hero weapon (bis stats) and shield hero , what should I craft with my myth crest. still the weapon? thx all

undone beacon
#

Still the weapon yes

tacit wasp
#

ty

solid sun
#

No dstance for one of the hardest pulls rn

#

Homie is a stuntman

coarse bay
#

only worry about the stats on them if you actually have the option at equal ilvl

daring marlin
#

Really upset people

#

Even if it's once a week

undone beacon
#

?? Nullaeus isnt even that hard sadge

#

Tbh i struggled more with it in a group

plush tendon
#

Prot War was easiest, then blood dk, then prot pal

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gonna try it on havoc and frost mage soonish

#

tbd

sharp gale
#

I tried bdk but it was not fun so I did with group

plush tendon
#

I will say blood is a bit rough when undergeared

sharp gale
#

Having to def cd every single tank buster, from the start

undone beacon
#

I did it on my priest with guildies and for some reason when Valeera was set to dps the boss kept dropping aggro and killing the dps

sharp gale
#

and with def cd -50% health hit

daring marlin
#

But dps will whine

undone beacon
#

Set her to healer, easy kill

plush tendon
#

I dont think its worth doing ?? once a week for 5 myth crests regardless

plush tendon
#

do it once, get the free uncapped crests

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never again

#

heck, most content now is completely useless for me now that M+ is a thing

undone beacon
#

Yeah with 10s being out and so easy its kinda pointless

plush tendon
#

I havnt even done a nightmare prey yet

undone beacon
#

I have because im ravenous for cosmetics and i want the stinky wyrm mount

plush tendon
#

Ill do it at some point

#

as a hall of fame mole its my duty

lofty warren
plush tendon
#

none of those talents are essential

undone beacon
plush tendon
#

though I drop shield spec for BSV personally

strange epoch
#

If I’m trying to get gear to tank as off spec, do I just need a 1H/Shield, most other gear is interchangeable?

#

Coming from Fury

tribal wharf
#

mega dead

undone beacon
#

Prioritize haste

#

get a 1-h and shield

#

go nuts

plush tendon
#

and use leftover on prot

strange epoch
#

Yeah haste is my dominant substat atm, so that works

plush tendon
#

also, big value for you is that when you get a 2h you get free upgrades on shields and swords

strange epoch
#

Oh hell yeah, love that

plush tendon
#

you might need to spec into arms for a second

strange epoch
#

Eww

plush tendon
#

but I assume as a fury war you already crafted a 2h

strange epoch
#

Yeah I got Myth 2H

plush tendon
#

yea, quick spec to arms and boom

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free upgrades on future 2h, 1h, and shields

strange epoch
#

I haven’t tanked since WotLK lol, anything major I need to know?

undone beacon
#

Keep shield block up, dont let mobs get behind you, hit shield slam, win

plush tendon
#

if you can play WotLK prot war

#

youll be fine

tribal wharf
#

oh damn 65% of ppl are using pain and gain

plush tendon
#

just press buttons

tribal wharf
#

thats good to know

strange epoch
#

Do I face roll left to right, or right to left?

daring marlin
#

do it

sharp gale
#

Pain and gain is the heal per hit from class tree ?

undone beacon
#

Yes

daring marlin
#

WAIT FOR TWO SUNDER STACKS BOYS

tribal wharf
#

hmm

sharp gale
#

Yeah I take it too, I don’t play stormbolt or intervene

strange epoch
#

Is Thane or Colossus the play for Prot?

tribal wharf
#

wait for 2 thunder clap okay guys

undone beacon
#

Thane currently, but colossus isnt far behind

tribal wharf
#

if u dont, u will die

strange epoch
#

I play Slayer so I might play Colossus’s just so I don’t get tempted to Thane on Fury as well 🙂

#

Appreciate the help, much appreciated

tribal wharf
#

why the hell do i want disrupting shout

ornate palm
#

To be disruptive 😉

cerulean tusk
#

AoE Silence got some use cases

ornate palm
#

For when your pug group keeps trying to sabotage your nexus point key by running on top of you constantly with suppression field

daring marlin
#

disrupting seems meh this expac

#

nothing super annoying like last boss of Nokhud

#

fuck that guy

toxic pewter
#

that boss was crazy lol

daring marlin
#

Reflect was goated tho

ornate palm
#

I like it in theory as a mass silence, but it usually feels like everything is always just 1 yard out of range for it.

undone beacon
#

I like it in terrace for when theres 18 howling terrors about to go off at any given moment in the second half

plush tendon
#

theres no reason not to take disrupting shout in keys

#

its a pretty free point with good util

ornate palm
#

Would be better if it worked as a silence on your allies. At least then I could have a second or two to gather everything properly before the squad just derps everything instantly.

plush tendon
#

friendly fire interrupts

ornate palm
#

A guy can dream.

undone beacon
#

Wrecking throw the demon hunter

plush tendon
#

shattering throw the paladin in bubble

undone beacon
plush tendon
#

stormbolt your healer

undone beacon
#

prot be gaming

#

druids be dying

plush tendon
#

prob need to wait for more kills

lament osprey
#

log more guardian druids that are skill diff

plush tendon
#

but no doubt Prot War is super strong defensively in this raid

lofty glen
#

Alnseer on vet worth?

daring marlin
#

@plush tendon I will say that I wish prot pally had SLIGHTLY more ST damage.

#

just slightly

undone beacon
lament osprey
#

Just need to nerf brewmasters damage and defensive and all will be right in the world

plush tendon
plush tendon
#

no nerfs

#

only buffs

#

make all tanks OP

lament osprey
#

yes nerfs

plush tendon
lament osprey
#

MAKE BREWMASTER DEAD

undone beacon
#

I'm with Augusto here

#

Bring all tanks up dont put your brothers in tanking down

#

The game is better when tanks are stronk

plush tendon
#

Game is BiS when tanks are OP

lament osprey
#

MAKE BREWMASTER DEAD

lofty warren
solid sun
#

Game is best when I’m doing awesomely

daring marlin
plush tendon
#

I also hate the crit wings vs sent node

mighty valley
plush tendon
#

Just delete sent from the game

daring marlin
#

AoE is pretty awesome at least.

plush tendon
#

Dude, wings into divine toll into hammer

#

Immediate dopamine hit

daring marlin
#

Oh, you'd prefer they just yeet Sentinel and buff base mit?

plush tendon
#

100%

undone beacon
#

I dont play ppal why is everyone always yapping about Sentinel i thought Sentinels were night elves smh

daring marlin
#

lizard brain go nuts

#

gong

plush tendon
#

Prot war too stable

solid sun
#

I would like to talk about tracking IP

undone beacon
#

People havent asked if we run 4/4 apex in a while

round pendant
#

Help I keep hearing deadlock sound effects in my head

lofty warren
undone beacon
#

Here's my thing to talk about. I hate ppal apex light beam effect

#

It is annoying

round pendant
#

Lmao

undone beacon
#

The Warden 3 sound effect plays in my head on a loop

#

the weird fuckin "BWOOOOM"

daring marlin
undone beacon
#

I WILL NOT FALL

round pendant
#

I keep hearing the heavy melee sound

undone beacon
#

I keep trying other characters but i just enjoy Warden too much

daring marlin
plush tendon
daring marlin
plush tendon
#

I do what the RL commands

undone beacon
lofty warren
#

Fck it im going to use the archon recommended instead of iv at least for now

mighty valley
lofty warren
lofty warren
#

I mean.. I could pull everything in pit of sorrow up to boss 1 and then hide behind a corner but thay would almost certainly kill me

mighty valley
#

i mean yeah it's reasonable to take bsv if you feel like you need the safety net. you just lose a decent chunk of damage

plush tendon
#

theres really not a wrong talent build at this point

#

as long as you have the main talent points, those other points you reference are really preference

#

so do whatever you like

lofty warren
#

How much dps loss to swap tan to bsv. Also bloodsurge instead of bloodborn

plush tendon
#

not sure

#

prob just sim

nocturne spindle
#

its like

#

3% of damage dealt from shield spikes thing

#

skyreach is the only place i feel like id actually always want it

#

stupid ass bleed stacking mobs

ornate palm
#

Heroic Averzian. I never get the adds so this is purely single target. It just feels terrible.

twin raft
#

Is there a decent way to track uptime like shield block on myself in combat? Like get an alert when its running out?

tribal wharf
#

you'll have to set what you want there but you wont even have to log out or anything for that one

delicate badge
#

Hey bros any advancements on seeing IP value instead of duration with cooldown manager?

plush tendon
#

you should be pressing IP as a rage dump pretty consistently and theres very little value in tracking IP

#

but if you really want to see it, I would bet the addon 'better cooldown manager' probably has a setting

#

the base blizz one is a bit restrictive

slow pilot
#

what are we tanking at? I’m 255 ilvl getting demolished in 11s

#

windrunner first room the magic hurts

#

10s non issue for me

plush tendon
#

I was 250; felt fine in 11s and 10s

lament osprey
#

252 no problem

slow pilot
#

even in 11s? Maybe my healer sucked

plush tendon
#

if they feel tough now, remember its week 1 and you are already doing max reward keys

#

each week its gonna get easier and easier

#

by a lot

#

imagine if you were like 285 doing these 10s? Absolute snoozefest

raw parcel
#

Welp, got all of my portals. That was quick. xD

daring marlin
#

Shadowlands could never be this easy

raw parcel
mighty valley
#

It can be a bit of both

delicate badge
daring marlin
#

I'm speaking from my own POV. Portals were a little tougher to achieve in prior expansions by comparison.

desert brook
#

Is there a average uptime we want to be around for having shield block up?

dusty terrace
#

Is crafting shield good? Maxed out a hero shield by mistake. Kinda wanted to craft alch trinket.🙌

drowsy comet
#

wanna share this here, my healing got significantly better, this in a +2 with pugs. Tank pulled the whole fucking dungeon and this Paladin stepped in EVERYTHING, Nexus dungeon O_o

#

i feel like beethoven

desert brook
jagged pier
#

u just use HR

#

u wont get the haste required for a a little bit

loud rune
#

im trying to figure out what is the reasoning for this macro

#

why exactly replace ignore pain

#

does ignore pain have a reset of shield slam or something?

toxic pewter
#

Nose for Trouble still putting in work after all these years

#

that in a +12 pit

jagged pier
jagged pier
#

Cause they never changed it

toxic pewter
#

lol

#

i swear it was lower in the past

#

well not the ability itself

#

oh maybe that was when we used indom

#

more

jagged pier
#

Nah its always been around 10%

raw parcel
toxic pewter
#

lol

#

wtf

#

u literally a panda

sharp gale
#

Delete racials and make them pickable

#

But 80% profits get deleted so they won’t

raw parcel
#

Just make it something you pick once and have to pay to switch shrug People would still do it.

sharp gale
#

That’s why I said 80% not 100%, I think most people who buy race change is bc they fomo racials or 0.5% dps increase

undone beacon
#

Once again advocating for them to remove combat and stat related racials and allow us to pick racials as a background system

#

Leave the profession and flavor ones like nightborne mailbox or furry tent

#

But any combat enhancement or utility should be on a background system, same with stats

#

My character was raised as a tinkerer, they have goblin rocket jump

#

Raised as a little urchin boy? You get meld

toxic pewter
#

lol furry tent wtf

undone beacon
#

Vulpera Caravan

#

You know what i mean nerd

toxic pewter
#

LOL

#

i know iknow

daring marlin
#

I like my human racial

#

more secondaries thank you

jagged pier
strange epoch
#

Tauren best. Warstomp is fun

drowsy comet
jagged pier
#

That is interesting

strong forum
strong forum
#

That's me tomorrow

sick sentinel
#

What addons are available to see my own debuffs / private auras in Mythic+?

DBM and BigWigs only show debuffs during boss encounters, but not trash. I couldn't find a way to enable it for M+ trash.

I would like a better frame alternative thean what Blizz default UI has.

tribal wharf
undone beacon
#

I dont have a good answer for that but i did find this

tribal wharf
#

we didnt deserve to make it

daring marlin
tribal wharf
#

as i suspected the purple wyrms destoyed the pug

#

lots of times i died i didnt need to

sick sentinel
#

Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose

toxic pewter
#

O_O

#

perhaps best to ask in the addon channel

undone beacon
toxic pewter
#

guys i think we have a new one

undone beacon
#

No reason to be a jerk about it

toxic pewter
undone beacon
#

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated

daring marlin
#

Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose

toxic pewter
#

Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose

undone beacon
#

Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose

tribal wharf
#

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated
.
Gonna take some time to block some users here but eventually Ill get only useful content I suppose

undone beacon
#

Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.

daring marlin
#

LMFAO

sick sentinel
#

Much better

#

Keep them coming

coral quartz
#

Just to clarify we are more or less always in Dstance

toxic pewter
#

lol

#

why u blocking every1..

undone beacon
#

There is almost never a good reason to leave dstance, unless you're trying to jockey for a parse in raid

fringe mural
#

Still that discussion?

undone beacon
#

3% crit and crit damage is not worth 20% DR and an extra DR on big hits

undone beacon
fringe mural
#

dude those guys are more dense than people in bgs

sharp gale
#

Answered questions are usually very similar

undone beacon
#

People tend to come asking the same handful of questions

#

Varies week to week

#

Last week it was all "Guys do we run 4/4 apex or 1/4 apex like Kira said"

fringe mural
#

lol

coral quartz
#

lol sorry

undone beacon
fringe mural
#

completely different matter, i am under the impression majestic hide drop chance was massively increased

undone beacon
fringe mural
#

which is important for us because crafted gear needs it

daring marlin
tribal wharf
#

if its me i don't even count that shit lol

fringe mural
#

sometimes

tribal wharf
#

i say i will block ppl then i dont

undone beacon
fringe mural
#

did someone else notice that?

tribal wharf
#

i have never blocked anybody here unless they were incredibly stupid

undone beacon
#

I dont do professions I just nag people in my guild to make shit so

sharp gale
#

I block melee hits

tribal wharf
#

im doing aell the patron orders that dont want me to pay 5000gold in bars

toxic pewter
#

I will say majestic hides def cost a lot on ah like 16k on my server

fringe mural
sharp gale
#

Why tf flasks cost 1400 golds

toxic pewter
#

oh wow

undone beacon
toxic pewter
#

like people are selling the flasks for cost

fringe mural
#

Oh wait no it was 20 sry

sharp gale
toxic pewter
fringe mural
#

and gold vials

toxic pewter
#

they 1k on my server at least

toxic pewter
fringe mural
tribal wharf
#

i think they badly need to rework the amount of bars required for some black smithing items

toxic pewter
#

oh like gathering

fringe mural
#

3k each rn

toxic pewter
#

gotcha

fringe mural
#

yeah

tribal wharf
#

12 copper bars that costs minimum 1000gold

toxic pewter
#

like making money with alchemy is pointless right now

#

literally nothing sells for more than cost

#

its strange

undone beacon
#

markets flooded quick this time around

toxic pewter
#

yeah its all flooded

#

thats the word i was trying to think of ty

fringe mural
#

yeah raw mats are where the money's at

#

Gathering bruno mars style

#

With finesse

#

badumm tiss

undone beacon
#

careful not talking about addons or ui or something that one guy is gonna block you

undone beacon
#

fate worse than death

fringe mural
#

finesse is the goat stat

undone beacon
#

Finesee my beloved

#

i wish you could lower the CD on mulch

fringe mural
#

yeah totally

plush tendon
#

naw, the real money is selling 10s

#

200k cuts right now

fringe mural
#

Free 3k gold every hour

fringe mural
undone beacon
fringe mural
#

post in /2

undone beacon
#

does being hof nullaues count for anything

#

World #147 peepo

plush tendon
#

you can advertise on your own now to

#

some guildies were doing it Tuesday night in the group finder

#

there is a 'carry offered' option

#

just need some friends

fringe mural
#

He's on my casual gamer to do list

undone beacon
#

he's p easy

fringe mural
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do i need minimum ilvl to beat him as prot?

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or just a min lvl valeera

plush tendon
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neither

undone beacon
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i did it as a 242 with a level 16 valeera

fringe mural
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does he have enrage?

plush tendon
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I did it at about the same as Pash

plush tendon
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but you prot war

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you big boy

solid sun
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Hey I’m looking for some private auras

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Can I get some of those

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