protection

[outer willow]

What key you get

[narrow prawn]

Maisara

[tribal wharf]

this is what i actually want out of my vault

[solid sun]

Guys

We get to do m+ now

[daring marlin]

What boss drops tier shoulders?

[solid sun]

How sick is that

[ebon geyser]

Gl on vault. Next week will be in mage main

[daring marlin]

I forget and can't look

[lusty grotto]

saladbar

[daring marlin]

thanks bro

[tribal wharf]

i wonder what my paladin get lol

only 2 lfr slot

[ivory barn]

My warrior got total shit, I either upgrade a veteran to champ or champ to hero

[solid sun]

Every vault is a w

They just come in different shapes

[ivory barn]

Can't sim 🗑️ tho

[undone beacon]

sounds like a socket vault

[ivory barn]

#protection message

[undone beacon]

I said what I said

[ivory barn]

It's got a couple of could grab pieces

[undone beacon]

hero gear is now farmable in M+

sockets are not

[ivory barn]

Level 7?

[undone beacon]

Something like that

[solid sun]

6

[jagged pier]

[ivory barn]

O.o 10's are mythic for vault

[undone beacon]

same as TWW

[lusty grotto]

same as in DF past s2

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/byrnedavid-dancing-partyhard-talking-heads-gif-8766748912154929337

[ivory barn]

Excuse my stupid

[undone beacon]

@lusty grotto I didnt touch my bear last week so this is all bear vault is

This may be my only bear vault for a long time

doing all this on 4 characters is maybe too much

[ivory barn]

I'm gonna be in delve hell this week

[undone beacon]

am i swapping to showing you all my shadow vaults now nim or nah

[solid sun]

I’ll do delves but my first order of business is spamming 6s for hero track gear

And then all 10s

[daring marlin]

Delves came in clutch

pally also got tier

[undone beacon]

this right here is why we delve

[ebon geyser]

I wish I was home to see what I got

[solid sun]

I’m hearing elvui is borked?

Did blizz biff it, dude

[lofty warren]

Wtf why are my bars all fcked up

[lusty grotto]

im using it 🤷‍♂️

[solid sun]

Logged in right now?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[solid sun]

Okay good

[lusty grotto]

its spamming errors but its playable

[lofty warren]

How did you get your action bars to work in combat?

[solid sun]

Wowhead posted an article about some api changes messing up action bar addons

And the guild I’m in mentioned elvui

[lusty grotto]

sure

[daring marlin]

I wanna see

[mild vessel]

Guys, I need your help: I'm in love with Prot Warrior, but I have a left wrist issue that flares up with high APM classes. I'm currently playing Blood DK, but I’d like to main my Prot Warrior.
​I use a Razer Naga, which allows me to manage Shield Block and Ignore Pain without any discomfort, significantly reducing the strain on my left wrist.
​Do you have any advice on how to further reduce the APM impact on my left wrist for the normal rotation? Maybe through specific macros or remapping keys to the right hand?

[lusty grotto]

concerning elvui

on their discord

its still playable though, if you turn off bugsack's sound off

[undone beacon]

aight shadow vault after i finish this lfr to fiend for tier

[proper sinew]

Does anyone know a one trick protection warrior who makes content on youtube or streams?

[lusty grotto]

sense

plka

topicx

not sure if topicx is one trick, he might play other tanks, and plka also plays other tanks from time to time

sense is the pure one-trick

the master one-trick

but any of those are consistently playing prot warrior

https://www.youtube.com/@SenseNurfed in case you missed the World first Nullaeus

https://www.twitch.tv/plkatv plka

https://www.youtube.com/@TopicxYT topicx

[proper sinew]

Thank you very much ❤️

[lusty grotto]

[proper sinew]

That insta informative reply

🐐

[lusty grotto]

plka is playing brew atm

just fyi

[solid sun]

Traitor

[sharp gale]

traitor if no bear alt

[opal ledge]

hey... i got a a hero chest tier piece.
and i got a hero legs, should i use catalyst on that or save it?

[solid sun]

Are you gonna raid

[opal ledge]

maybe pug, but low chance, i'm more into m+
should i save for mythic gear later?

[undone beacon]

will cata get you your 4pc

if so then yes

if not then no

once yopu have 4pc cata charged start dropping in all content

[opal ledge]

cata will get me my 2 pc

[remote void]

Hey all, new Prot Warr question... Is Demo Shout limit to just lower tier mobs? I was timing mine to raid wide (twisting obscurity) from Fallen King (H) last night, but looking over the logs it doesn't seem to have had any affect to the initial hit or the dots it leaves... It also doesn't look like it affected the melee hits I took 💔

[undone beacon]

Send it on CD for big dammies and more rage

[lusty grotto]

if youre asking about the DR, i does affect everything

[lofty warren]

Why is the rogue guy playing tank

[lusty grotto]

either you misread the logs, or something

[remote void]

Very possible

TY

[sonic terrace]

oii where are you tanks at??? im getting no tanks q'in for my m+

[sharp gale]

demo shout is only limited if the dmg doesn't come from the target

[lusty grotto]

melee hits arent what you should be looking at, we demolish those with just shield block

[lusty grotto]

☝️

[tranquil copper]

is there a quick little macro that uses heroic throw if wrecking throw is on cd?

[sharp gale]

look at him, bnet friendless

[lusty grotto]

no, both are gcd, you cant do it

[tribal wharf]

na

[remote void]

Was just checking those as other events during the window the debuff was on him... like you mentioned, mostly a log reading skill issue i suspect meow

[tranquil copper]

damn

[daring marlin]

We have this thing called a j*b it's most unfortunate.

[lusty grotto]

or extremely fortunate

[daring marlin]

😂😂😂

This emoji kills me

[undone beacon]

rolled an 84 on cloth tier in lfr

the only other clothie rolled a 98

im going to go apoplectic

have a conniption

[ivory barn]

After my raid

[ebon geyser]

Last week someone rolled on a weapon for mog and I had a blue on my DH

He had max veteran and won the roll

I was livid

[ivory barn]

You expect gear out of lfr?

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-parks-and-recreation-gif-23230468

[coarse bay]

I wont be home for quite awhile

But like

What should i take from my vault

[lofty warren]

https://tenor.com/view/liar-blizzard-activision-blizzard-activision-bobby-kotick-gif-10247464055084334428

[crystal lynx]

yeah, i calculated that

[tribal wharf]

we did it

it begins

[toxic pewter]

gl

[daring marlin]

wtf is that affix

[lusty grotto]

the new one that helps newbies

[brisk cloud]

Its the new player route guide

[daring marlin]

When do normal affixes pop up

[brisk cloud]

Highlights packs to give you a blizzard approved tm route

[daring marlin]

🤔

[brisk cloud]

5

Guidance is removed at 6

[tribal wharf]

aha, you use the targeted line to remove the sparkle magic thingy on final of seat

okay, i was wondering forever wtf that mechanic was

[daring marlin]

Thanks. Not home so I can't see.

[mellow portal]

Are the routes actually legit?

[lusty grotto]

they not

they are not

[tribal wharf]

i just pull monsters and dont ask why

[lusty grotto]

theyre just baseline routes

they are made to teach people

[brisk cloud]

Theyre good enough for a new player

[coarse bay]

They get 100%, that is all

[lusty grotto]

yup

[mellow portal]

Good to know

[lusty grotto]

its a good system

[brisk cloud]

Teaches them about count and stuff, the actual community made stuff that accounts for Lust and triple pulls and stuff is going to be way better

[tribal wharf]

the route i did for mt was just fine for %

perfect even

95% and then clear bottom of ramp ater boss

[coarse bay]

Ya it’s a super good start and hopefully they push it further

An in-game mdt system with that would be very good for a ton of people

[coarse bay]

Im expecting the biggest diff being the blizzard route pulling inefficient or no-no mobs

[mellow portal]

Yeah that's cool they did that, but I dont think I want to practice routes I wont be using in higher keys

[brisk cloud]

I don't think they do anything weird as far as I've noticed

[lusty grotto]

the glowing mob takes extra damage

but thats about it

[coarse bay]

But at those levels shouldnt matter

[coarse bay]

I dont think anything i do in the first month will be practice for anything

[coarse bay]

Oh thats actually cool

[brisk cloud]

I mean it's only active in 2-5 and if you're at all any bit serious about keys your absolute minimum is a 6 or 7

[lusty grotto]

nobody is saying its dogshit

so who are you saying that to?

[tribal wharf]

what are alternative to lust

[lusty grotto]

drums

like always

[tribal wharf]

other than dragon

ah, i thought they nerfed them or got rid

[lusty grotto]

do you mean classes?

[tribal wharf]

classes i know

[lusty grotto]

what do you mean with your question

[tribal wharf]

like if we did 4paladin me warrior groupo

[lusty grotto]

ok well then you drums

cause you have no lust classes

brah

we had larias' one

already

no need for all this shit

[outer willow]

Oh

Mb

I like colors

[coarse bay]

They are slightly worse than a real lust now yes

But better than nothing

[waxen frigate]

Siiix seveeen

[lusty grotto]

are you back nish

[daring marlin]

shut up

[coarse bay]

[daring marlin]

gamer

[waxen frigate]

big vault pull

[daring marlin]

hell yeah dude delves paying off

[lusty grotto]

nish is back!

[daring marlin]

I think it's amusing you can get carried through delves and prey on rats too

[waxen frigate]

leeching off guild normal run tonight too as dps

[lusty grotto]

wb nish would you like to see my current mog

[waxen frigate]

think you showed it to me already

[daring marlin]

hideous

[coarse bay]

Whats the mog

[coarse bay]

Fire

[waxen frigate]

i still look cashmoney as usual

[lofty warren]

Hello, blizzard dev here.

Yesterday, we announced API changes that were not tested on the PTR. Today, those changes are live.
We understand this has broken functionality that millions of players use every day and forced addon authors into last-minute rewrites. That is unfortunate, but ensuring a fair environment for a few dozen Race to World First players—whose gameplay is considerably more valuable to us as a marketing asset—was the more important goal.

P.S. dont linch me this is just a joke

[coarse bay]

That missed the whole point pepega

They stopped using those addons early on anyways

[waxen frigate]

damn right i am

[lusty grotto]

very goodge

[lofty warren]

I see the funny did not hit its mark. Back to asking hyper specific questions about tier list nuances

[coarse bay]

[narrow prawn]

did an algethar +8 now

this dungeon

is overtuned as fuck

jesus christ

[tribal wharf]

what kill u

or party

[narrow prawn]

i feel like a blood dk, that's the feeling

[tribal wharf]

LOL

[narrow prawn]

but the wyrms were the worst part definitely

[tribal wharf]

which boss, or its associated trash?

see boys

[narrow prawn]

and doing that first megapull with the current gear is stupidity

[tribal wharf]

i told u

purple wyrm pug destroy

[narrow prawn]

at least i got a nice ring

yay!

[tribal wharf]

hero track

hard to complain

[fluid widget]

How do the axes feel

Cause thats my fear for that dungeon

[narrow prawn]

if you're melee

well

[tribal wharf]

axes in AA?

wat

[narrow prawn]

the final ones

where you los the caster

and pull 3 axes

[tribal wharf]

oh, them lol

[fluid widget]

No spectral axe

That are on the way to veximas

[narrow prawn]

the axes are still deadly

oh

that?

[velvet knot]

what buff do we take in algethar

[narrow prawn]

that is easy as fuck lol

[tribal wharf]

the veximus trash is hurts a whole hell of a lot

[lusty grotto]

its almost like we're champion geared

and its day 1 of keys

[tribal wharf]

appoach with extreme caution is my only advice

[fluid widget]

Great, one of the videos was talking about how they have a tank buster that doesn’t have a cast time

[narrow prawn]

let me complain bro

[lusty grotto]

why would you think its anything other than haste?

[narrow prawn]

They do have a tank buster that doesn't have a cast tiem

[lusty grotto]

yellow dragon is your friend

[tribal wharf]

i ran AA on 0 as monk and warrior tank back to back

[undone beacon]

uhm actually they're bronze 🤓

[solid sun]

Piss dragon go brrr

[tribal wharf]

and both times veximus platform trash sucked ass and killed us

[fluid widget]

It’s very surprise mofo just wasn’t sure how it’s at an 8

[tribal wharf]

the big cluseter of 3 packs

wher boss span

[coarse bay]

I will run keys later when everyone else has keys and has been running them

[narrow prawn]

did a +6 seat, seemed pretty ok

[coarse bay]

And i get carried

[narrow prawn]

i'm curious to see how pit of saron is

cause i have no idea how this dungeon feels

[tribal wharf]

seat is good dungeon

[narrow prawn]

also, it's just me or MDT is highlighting the monsters now?

[coarse bay]

Pit seems like itll be my least fav this season, just from vibes and annoyance

[coarse bay]

Thats an affix in game

[narrow prawn]

the gear is also pretty garbage

[coarse bay]

2-5 keys

[narrow prawn]

oh i see

[tribal wharf]

im proud of my team for that

every single bomb gone

[remote snow]

is something spell reflectable on dragon bosses?

[mighty arch]

Gaze of the alnseer (champ)
Or hero tier chest

Thank you!

[lusty grotto]

tier

its tier or sim

[tribal wharf]

i got 7 aa

time for me to go boom

[glacial lynx]

is wowhead reliable on trinkets?

[undone beacon]

We reccomend icyveins for all prot guide related matters

[coarse bay]

What pash said, but trinkets are also a simming question either way

[lusty grotto]

simming is the most reliable of them all, but yes what they said

except when its a defensive trinket

[undone beacon]

also man shadow feels like ass in these lower keys

[coarse bay]

[undone beacon]

the tanks pulling like 18 packs so i cant dot everything before some fucking mage obliterates it all

[coarse bay]

Heck magoos

[undone beacon]

It does feel bad to be doing so bad on meters

It was something I enjoyed about tanking, tank damage was gravy

[tribal wharf]

blood mallet is quesitonably ok

for trinkets

[undone beacon]

Bloodmallet is kinda silly just sim your own characters

[tribal wharf]

id use it for a quick answer and sim for longer answer

[undone beacon]

Always sim

Bloodmallet uses character templates, not your character

So something may be better on Bloodmallet than it is for your character

and vice versa

[solid sun]

Imagine getting beat by cam all night

Because he’s so powerful

[undone beacon]

hot?

[solid sun]

https://tenor.com/view/kpop-demon-hunters-2025-film-movie-animated-gif-2170181526466355571

Cam and his title friends coming to carry keys

[lofty warren]

Bloodmallet good for something like racial sims imo

[solid sun]

We have a new RWF champion

RAoV QA Strikes Back claim RWF #1 for the Dreamrift raid

[lofty warren]

Loot spec in dps is correct right?

For vaultt

[tribal wharf]

arms warrior?

i thought they went extinct

[ivory barn]

Is arms finally better than fury

[solid sun]

No

[tribal wharf]

just a +4

[ivory barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480150567268909077/1234524411626000545/image0.gif

[tribal wharf]

need champ crest

lots of changes

[daring marlin]

do I do heroic raid or keys first tonight

🤔

@toxic pewter what first bro

[fringe mural]

go fishing

[toxic pewter]

I personally lean toward ddoin raid first just prefer it for some reason

[fringe mural]

even blizzard themselves said wow is a boomer game

[toxic pewter]

but you can do m+ start working toward getting myth crests

[fringe mural]

gotta live the boomer life

[daring marlin]

This is why I'm torn bro

[toxic pewter]

yah for some reason i like to get the raids out of the way

so that leaves me to like climb m+

but really no wrong way to do it

[pulsar epoch]

guys is there any addon for tracking teammates cooldowns for pugs as a tank ?

[jagged pier]

nope

[undone beacon]

They murdered all of those

[fringe mural]

i think you can show the major cooldowns in wows standard interface, but only the runtime

not the cooldown

[vale escarp]

There is, its called talk to each other

[fringe mural]

so you can for example see another dude's shield wall running, but you cant see his cd

[jagged pier]

nah that only works for external cds

like healer ones

[tribal wharf]

do you mean the battle axe mobs on the bridge after the vexamus boss

[lofty warren]

There is but it is kinda jenk especially if ppl waist their kick

[tribal wharf]

those guys hurt

[jagged pier]

time die for instance u can see on that one but only when its active so its a waste of time

[fringe mural]

this you mean?

[pulsar epoch]

clever

[fringe mural]

i dont know what counts as big defensives though

[jagged pier]

i think thats yours

[pulsar epoch]

whats it names i want to test it

[fringe mural]

no not just yours, i think my wife was able to see my sw through it

as a fat icon in my unit frame

[jagged pier]

well thats always been there

[remote snow]

bump

[jagged pier]

im talking about this

[jagged pier]

go look at the sheet

[remote snow]

is it linked somewhere?

[fringe mural]

ah this

[ivory barn]

We already have an exploit boss kill

[jagged pier]

as always

litterally always done first

[jagged pier]

https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide

[fringe mural]

i thought this was added as a new feature

[jagged pier]

yer thats always been a thing, well not always but ive had that on my raid frames for a while

they might have added it to cover a addon on WA

but thats not new

[fringe mural]

yeah i mean new as in without using an addon

but yeah wa could certainly do that before

[jagged pier]

yer but he was asking about something more aligned to omnicd

which doesnt exsist anymore

[daring marlin]

Anyone try Null today?

[jagged pier]

u get nothing

[daring marlin]

dang

[toxic pewter]

osnap the tier helm i got has a socket in it pog

[fringe mural]

yeah omnicd was nice

but that's older than classic

[daring marlin]

pog dude

[gray dagger]

What's the good embellishment for weapon craft?

[ocean anvil]

Hi. What's best craft for war prot ?

[lusty grotto]

and icy veins guide

[gray dagger]

lol

[lusty grotto]

it aint a joke

[untold tangle]

Can I always dispel the fear myself with br on double dragon boss when taking the fear dragon when he's grounded?

[lusty grotto]

yes

if by dispel you mean berserker rage

[untold tangle]

Ye

I meant if it's always up for it

But that's great. Thanks

[sand condor]

eyy

[urban raven]

is this thing any good? i cant find much about it online

[lusty grotto]

sim

[fringe mural]

you can save up a little time if you use berserker a few seconds before the fear

so it'll be up again faster

[lofty warren]

for great vault should go as DPS loot spec right?

[daring marlin]

yes

[fringe mural]

because of the aln trinket?

[lusty grotto]

gaze drops for both

so no need to dps loot spec

heart drops for prot

nvm puzzlebox drops for both

no real reason to go dps loot spec

you only go for one if you have both myth shield and weapon

thats it

pretty simple

heart drops for both also

every single good trinket drops for both

for now

even plumes drop for both

when march comes out

[rocky crest]

Anyone alive at this hour ?

Need advice for hero craft. Rings n amulets give best dps boost meanwhile my wpn is 263 n shield crafted is 259

should I still go for shield or wpn over rings n amulet

[lusty grotto]

yes

myth crafted weapon specifically

[fringe mural]

is it possible to get the crests from delves for it?

or do you need to go m+

[rocky crest]

Dont got the crests for myth , so hero it is

Thank you supreme leader @lusty grotto

https://tenor.com/view/admiral-aladeen-execution-admiralgeneral-general-admiral-admiral-general-aladeen-gif-20957340

[lusty grotto]

sure but you wont reach the cap

[fringe mural]

because too few drop?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[ruby musk]

What timeframe do we sim for again? ST 5 min or something else?

[lusty grotto]

1t 5 min or 3 min, either is fine

5t 1:30 min for aoe

[ruby musk]

Ah, that's why it was on 1.5

ty

[torn gulch]

did someone try ?? again to see what crests they receive?

on the weekly rewards

[daring marlin]

jakey said it gives nothing

[torn gulch]

so what's the weekly reward then? scam?

[lament osprey]

Go kill it and find out

[daring marlin]

Is there supposed to be one? Or is it just the single time reward? idk

First time doing a nemesis boss

[opal ledge]

how do make my frame show debuffs like poison?

[torn gulch]

yea ingame it says weekly reward

doesn't matter anyway

[lusty grotto]

does it matter? you can just do keys

[torn gulch]

keys delves

with how keys look we re just gonna farm 10's

i still think they are gonna buff the keys

[lusty grotto]

i think youre wrong

its day 1

[vale escarp]

First season TWW they nerfed the loot from the nemesis boss. It gave same level of loot as 8+ delves. After the nerf it didnt count to vault

[lusty grotto]

"how keys look" means nothing

[daring marlin]

hey man 30 myth crests for what, 10mins? doesn't sound bad

[vale escarp]

Wasnt the 30 myth crests onetime reward? They didnt even count to the season limits

[daring marlin]

what keys are you boys doing right now ?

[lusty grotto]

seat 8

[vale escarp]

Non, EU Guy here

[lusty grotto]

just getting keys up

[daring marlin]

Take me with you in 2.5 hours

😏

[lusty grotto]

sure

[tribal wharf]

would it be advisable in pit to go left and pull big and lust on it

or like, a possibly, i guess

i head something bout go right at start, i know of go left

[toxic pewter]

first pull is lust in pit afaik

[ionic tangle]

Hey probably common question here, but i am struggling to choose. What is better for tanking mythics+/delves, MT or Colossus?

[lusty grotto]

either

[narrow prawn]

ok maybe i won't craft a shield this week

[lusty grotto]

you will

[narrow prawn]

now i need decent trinkets

[narrow prawn]

sadgers

[lusty grotto]

because myth crafted is better

[narrow prawn]

yeah i know

BUT

maybe my guild will attempt first boss myth this week

so who knows

maybe a shield drop

[lusty grotto]

ok then hodl until then

[toxic pewter]

r we #1 dam tank now or wat

[raw parcel]

Okay, so I unlocked 4 set, now what sort of stuff drops catalyst charges?

[daring marlin]

Everything

[raw parcel]

Everything is a lot of things.

[daring marlin]

Go out and do content

[raw parcel]

Prey? M+? All of it?

Delves, PvP, Goldshire ERP?

[daring marlin]

Nah. Raid bosses, bountiful delves, rated pvp and M+.

[warm plinth]

Specifically the last one and none of the others

[lusty grotto]

@daring marlin dm when you get online

through bnet or whatever

[lofty warren]

which to pick?

[toxic pewter]

maybe pick a shirt

LOL

got em

I guess the tier shoulders if u really need tier... ? seems to be lfr ilvl tho

[lofty warren]

shoulders and head are champion track they all so shit

[daring marlin]

roger

[lofty warren]

how good is this trink? its not in icy veins tier list

[ashen shale]

I think its more like dps trinket if Im not mistaken

[toxic pewter]

lol

[lofty warren]

tanks often wear dps trinkets

[tribal wharf]

yes, as long as you dont go too glas cannon

[toxic pewter]

I actually have this same trinket and it seems.. mid.. mid level stat trinket like not awful but not one of the best

can sim it tho and all

[daring marlin]

windrunner trinket

[lofty warren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wxsMWGa66s3LHARuZB6Qrm this shows the paw is best

I forgot - how do you change it from 1 target 5 min to 5 target 5 min?

[ashen shale]

With this kind of vault I would probably wait until ur done Raiding for this week

[lofty warren]

is this the legal setting for m+ simming? @lusty grotto

[raw parcel]

Thanks boss.

[ashen shale]

Because set is kinds really important and if u dont get shoulders it could be worth it to pick the shoulders even if they are vet

[smoky solar]

I am new to warrior but I have heard its better to open vault as Arms, is this true? I am a prot war and have crafted wep and shield

[lofty warren]

id rather get a heroic for more ilvl. I'll get non-tier from m+ easy

[ashen shale]

Yeah understandable

I like to have 4 set bonus as fast as possible so that will be my tactic for tomorrow(cries in eu reset)

[daring marlin]

Smart for the charges

[ashen shale]

I also frequently spec into arms/fury because I only play warrior so thats atleast something I dont have to change when respecin into dps/tank and the 4set bonus is really important early on

Rest will be filled with crafted gear and heroic items from m+

1-2 veteran set pieces wont f* ur entire iLvL up so it seems like a okish tactic for me atleast

[lusty grotto]

no

[tribal wharf]

should haev had it last week

[raw parcel]

Are those charges supposed to be really rare? Done a nightmare prey, a delve, and a key and none yet. :x

And here I was thinking they'd be dropping like mana from heaven or something.

[rigid spruce]

what do we think chat?

heart of ancient hunger has leech

[ashen shale]

I would take the shittiest one of them just to show everyone how big your balls are

[daring marlin]

No. They will be rare.

[daring marlin]

Don't worry about tertiaries TBH

[rigid spruce]

im not really, but heart is 2nd bis, at least according to wowhead, and if i remember correctly gaze was nerfed

[lusty grotto]

its not

we dont really do wowhead anymore

we do icy-veins only

also

[rigid spruce]

archon then?

[lusty grotto]

trinket recommendations are only bis if they are myth track, every lower than track you just sim

not any other track

[lusty grotto]

never

[remote ocean]

is it worth crafting weap+shield this week? hm

[lusty grotto]

yes

[remote ocean]

awesome.

[lusty grotto]

you cant craft both

[remote ocean]

which embelishment? do you happen to know?

oh

[lusty grotto]

its 80 crests per craft

and the myth cap is 100

[remote ocean]

capp is 200 isnt it

[lusty grotto]

oh true

well then, if thats the case then yes

[daring marlin]

Buddy said he was getting dicked in a 12 Maisara on his Brew

heh

[lusty grotto]

shit is no joke

ngl

but its fine

better than having absolute shitter easy keys at the start

but also absolutely expected because of gearing

[daring marlin]

True

this is why we farm the hero gear of course

[solid sun]

delve row has a hero track tier chest

delves coming in clutch!

[lofty warren]

what is the correct setting to sim 5 target 5 min

[lofty warren]

what the heck the difference 5t 1:30 vs 5t 5 min

[lusty grotto]

we're a 90s class

[warm plinth]

You're a 90s class

GOTTEM

[lusty grotto]

45s, to be specific

45s + 45s = 90s

90s = 1:30

[lofty warren]

your* a 90 sec class

[craggy harness]

you're*

jks

[lofty warren]

ok fine ill rerun it with 5 min but I dont think itll be that different from 1.5 min

simc version weekly?

[lusty grotto]

sure whichever is most stable

[lofty warren]

how to find out which is most stable

[lusty grotto]

idk dude just send it

[toxic pewter]

grats

[tribal wharf]

both dungeon mounts from this expansion

[lusty grotto]

welcome to the club

[tribal wharf]

18 more

then im happy

[raw parcel]

Got my first super deluxe victory 4 set freebie charge and it feels good. 😎

[tribal wharf]

i was running that dungeon every day

so i was bound to get it sooner

[sharp gale]

CDs nuts

[lofty warren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ce7n5wMxKYDAyiyHHNUxc4

[ebon geyser]

did they mess up elv ui??

[lofty warren]

what the fck is this shit. i have no idea what the name is

[lofty warren]

you need to get the latest. blizz changed API

[ebon geyser]

ok i died like 4 times because IV and SB was not working on my bars

[lofty warren]

elvui has a new build that fixes

[ebon geyser]

where? i have the latest

[tribal wharf]

this is the cheap vesion you can buy

[torn gulch]

you can get the haste/crit peridot it's more stats

11/4

cheap as well

[tribal wharf]

ah, i figured it might be more of a loss,

[torn gulch]

deadly peridot

[tribal wharf]

i just went with first haste one i saw

[daring marlin]

mf weren't you just asking if they were rare

damn lol

[tribal wharf]

nowww.... your bones.... will FREEZE

[raw parcel]

I was. And they might be! I might have just gotten lucky xD

[tribal wharf]

paladin helmet

[twilit horizon]

So just did a +5 MT and shield dura went to 20% before last boss without any deaths. Anyone seen that?

[tribal wharf]

normal

[lusty grotto]

welcome to prot warrior

[twilit horizon]

I've not seen it in the past be like that before, or at least never noticed it as much.

[lusty grotto]

its not an issue

i just did like 8 keys back to back

[twilit horizon]

kk

[lusty grotto]

but then again i repair after every key

[tribal wharf]

can he buy repair hammers and use them as non bs

green qaulity

[lusty grotto]

nvm, not 8 lmao

just 4

[tribal wharf]

very nice

2 new recipe

[gritty egret]

puzzle box still broken?

[lusty grotto]

broken how

i dont think we've heard it was broken

[gritty egret]

stronk

[lusty grotto]

sure

[lofty warren]

puzzle box annoying AF have to hard cast

[lusty grotto]

for you

[lofty warren]

i just did first key +7 easy AF. def not like s1 tww

[torn gulch]

keys difficulty look like an subsequent season not an initial season of an xpac

i still remember priory being so hard at like +8 first week

[lofty warren]

this feels like eco domed difficulty where they realize nobody likes that crazy AF tuning

[torn gulch]

peeps are doing +14 at 260 average ilvl

and we ll be at 290-291 at the end of the season

[lusty grotto]

you guys must not be watching group hp

and by people doing 14s, you mean pushers

because 14 is literally the r1 key right now

3 of them

[daring marlin]

@dusky canopy doing a 2

shameful

[dusky canopy]

yeah I ran my friends keys and now they got offline so I'm stuck with mine 😄

[daring marlin]

this is why you always say NO MY KEY NERD

also apparently nullaeus is 5 uncapped myth crests a week

yawn

[dusky canopy]

wait for real.. I gotta kill that boss once a week

[daring marlin]

you'll get 35 first time

[dusky canopy]

ye I did

[daring marlin]

if you haven't yet anyway

ok good

[raw parcel]

Got another charge, don't think they're rare.

[open lintel]

all dungeons +8 breaches 2k right?

[lofty warren]

yes

does new DH benefit from war scream

[warm plinth]

Tf is war scream

[dusky canopy]

Buhtellie Cry?

[daring marlin]

Nim about to be a certified owner in +5 seat

[dusky canopy]

bruh I was 30k above the next dps in overall in my +2

send help

+5 MC now xD

[daring marlin]

yeah me and this mage bodied this poor dh

[solid sun]

Don’t call me out like that

[daring marlin]

but I was on top

[tribal wharf]

i need to see this +5 affix thing next

figure out what that is

and these wowhead cheat sheats are great

[daring marlin]

yeah that nimchip guy owns

[lusty grotto]

i got carried by a pink class

[tribal wharf]

i could do ksm most of it tonight if i had a good team and a reason to slam my balls on the table like that

dont care enough to do that lol

gunna be ppl try harding allll week

already they are listing +10 and +11

[daring marlin]

you could tho

2k is prolly all 7s

all 5s would be 1840

anyone that got tier outta the vault just needs a SINGLE piece to drop from raid and they could achieve 4pc

[dusky canopy]

91k
59k
46k

guilford

lmao

[daring marlin]

what dungeon

[dusky canopy]

up to an 8 now atleast

[daring marlin]

mgt?

[dusky canopy]

MC

[daring marlin]

ohhhhh sick

[lofty warren]

eww garbage trink

[daring marlin]

LET ME IN

[daring marlin]

@lusty grotto tank his AA

let's slap

[dusky canopy]

guy waits for me to do the work

kek

[daring marlin]

Nim has an 8 AA too.

lmao

pumped his damn key

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto tank my 8 to a 10 re roll yours and well run your 8 to a 10

🤝

[lusty grotto]

im running with a brew friend

[daring marlin]

lmao that DH has played a lot today

[dusky canopy]

that noober just has a bunch of untimed 10s

[lusty grotto]

i can tank it after brew

[dusky canopy]

im running it

well just do yours next

[daring marlin]

NOOBER

[undone beacon]

i need 10s

[dusky canopy]

login 4head

[undone beacon]

im in w/ a healer bud rn, 10 mt

[lusty grotto]

MT easy as fuck

[dusky canopy]

ok we literally have a 5 stack

nim guil me you healer

[daring marlin]

we gotta dick this rogue

he doesn't get to do damage

[dusky canopy]

unless this guys undercover jpc

hes cooked

[lusty grotto]

i cant ditch friend

[open lintel]

can u post the link

[tribal wharf]

So on these tiny keys I'm eoing it lights up a bunch of them with gold which weakens them, soi assume this is to show a very basic route that will get trash count and they are weak to learn to pull them big?

I don't know

[undone beacon]

just killed 1st boss so may be a sec

got a good healer bud

[tribal wharf]

Somewhere in this server news channel

[daring marlin]

rogue

SUCKS

healer too

[tribal wharf]

Rogue skill issue

[lofty warren]

bruh why is cap so low. gonna overcap just by doing vault keys

[tribal wharf]

If he real rogue he never die

That cap will grow

Updated weekly

Still, maybe that is tiny cap, champ and below is 500 cap

[toxic pewter]

what you guys using hero crests on

[open lintel]

probably a craft

nvm myth crests for craft

[quartz rose]

u guys running mt or colossus in m+

[open lintel]

mt

[sharp gale]

Im gonna reclear raid, gather m+ hero gear, and spend almost all hero crests

[quartz rose]

ya

mt is awesome on dwarf

[daring marlin]

@dusky canopy

GET YOU NEXT TIME FUCKER

[undone beacon]

damn i coulda done better than that guy and i suck

[dusky canopy]

Let the record show

[undone beacon]

y'all got a 10 xenas?

[dusky canopy]

[undone beacon]

me and heal bud need

[daring marlin]

suck it

[dusky canopy]

LMFAO

[daring marlin]

my weapon is bad

[dusky canopy]

your spec beats me brother man

i just have more gear

[daring marlin]

nah I know ret fucking owns

at least we both don't have tier

we would've really killed that rogue

[dusky canopy]

bro we only did a 2x 40k+ gap

poor guy

ego fkd

[daring marlin]

lmaooooooo

[undone beacon]

my shadow damage is asscheeks rn

i feel so bad

[sharp gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009237219216719902/1201942150166609950/DuyFSlUx.gif

[undone beacon]

[daring marlin]

our overall got fucked by the healer too

[sharp gale]

He’s gonna ego fck someone who does 20k dps

[daring marlin]

didn't even lust the big pull

[quartz rose]

thats me on arms

[dusky canopy]

bro I know

that fucked my overall

[undone beacon]

we didnt have a lust

[dusky canopy]

i had to kite for 45 seconds

[sharp gale]

Lust is a sin

[daring marlin]

and I had to run back

[dusky canopy]

I should just disable details

[quartz rose]

lust is dps crutch

[dusky canopy]

it looks like shit

[cold pilot]

Ok so I got trinket in raid, what should I take from vault?

ring or 3rd hero tier

[dusky canopy]

LOL choco

[cold pilot]

How do I sim my vault, do I have to input each item individually?

[daring marlin]

have the window open and type /simc

and put it into raidbots

[cold pilot]

thanks

[daring marlin]

well that was funny

annoyed I died on the last boss tho

pally tank pulling wayyyyyyyyyyyy too much early on

bozo

[dusky canopy]

happens bro kek

[daring marlin]

ye lol

[dusky canopy]

guy thought he was naowh

[daring marlin]

did his buddy lust on rip?

I can't recall

[dusky canopy]

I dont think so

pretty sure held it for first boss

[daring marlin]

prolly would've been fine if he did

[shrewd plinth]

Warrior Protection 12.0 Class Set 4pc - Thunder Clap and Revenge damage increased by 10% and Shield Charge grants Revenge!

What exactly is Revenge! ?

[dusky canopy]

[daring marlin]

the revenge proc

lol

[shrewd plinth]

this thing?

[daring marlin]

@dusky canopy ggs bro I'll get you next time

:D

[undone beacon]

y'all still runnin

can you get me in dere

[lofty warren]

timing 10s in 250 ilvl lol how much has changed since tww s1

[dusky canopy]

Ye gg homie! I’m chillin with my wife now I’ll be on in the am though, off all week

[daring marlin]

hell yeah

they should buff this bullshit

[peak ocean]

new to tanking in general - any advice for those mobs early on in spires with the stacking bleed?

do i just have to kite and let it fall off so it doesnt stack?

[undone beacon]

brew and guil ignored me

sadgers

[cold pilot]

holy shit

[lusty grotto]

stun

you can take a small step back

[cold pilot]

So my vault was STACKED, I picked Tier helm, got the bis trinket in heroic raid and got bis ring in SOTT. I chose well

[daring marlin]

nuh uh

[ripe jungle]

With the apex changes prot got buff? Or was it a nerf since we need to spend 3 points on apex

[undone beacon]

buff, tis dumb to not take 4/4 apex

[lusty grotto]

we never spent only 3 points on apex

we always went 4/4

[ripe jungle]

Yea what i meant was 3 more points on apex

[ivory barn]

Idk what I did but I beat a dk and a evoker in a +2 nexus 😭

[lusty grotto]

its a buff, and we always went 4/4, not 1/4 and not 3/4

[fluid widget]

algethar slaps god damn

[lofty warren]

Ex wind tools. You can lookup kira TV video about it.. it can track like omni cd if someone actually kicks but if they waste their kick the addon doesnt see it

[drowsy comet]

mfs already running +12s ... What the fuck

[glad magnet]

dungeons feel pretty easy, i was spamming 10s ** all night

[tame jasper]

Congratz @shut summit for Dreamrift 🥳

[daring marlin]

10s are tuned pretty good with everyone sitting around 255

I imagine if everybody is 265+ 12s are w/e

[fluid widget]

The last boss of AA was fucking us up at a 10

[narrow prawn]

AA is hard as fuck, all other dungeons feel easy

[drowsy comet]

What ilvl?

[narrow prawn]

Skyreach and Magisters are free IO

[daring marlin]

last boss? not vex or crawth? lol

[vast dragon]

anyone have a good cooldown manager template

[buoyant mirage]

as a big noob, do I open vault as prot or fury/arms?

[tame jasper]

Prot. All trinkets can drop as prot too ( @lusty grotto wrotet it here yesterday somewher)

[sour cloak]

for m+ are we taking all 4 points in apex talents?

[solid sun]

Yup

We are taking 4/4 in raid also

Is raidbots dead

[sour cloak]

so for that i gotta drop Battle scarred bloodborne and last stand?

[solid sun]

I recommend the icy veins builds

And if you feel you need BSV for the content you’re doing you can drop TaN

The icy veins m+ build has several blurbs in it that discuss flex points

And what you can move around

Generally speaking, the folks here don’t recommend last stand

[sour cloak]

gotcha

tyvm

[solid sun]

You’re very welcome

[fringe mural]

it was never real mitigation, even back in the days and since you dont have it extra without sw it's not really necessary

if you die during shield wall there's something really wrong anyways

rule for tanking was always: get enough hp to survive the biggest hits and then focus on mitigation and dgaf about max hp

[shrewd plinth]

found it, it's no where in the talent pages it's just a buff

[fringe mural]

Great buff name

[daring marlin]

@lusty grotto sorry bro didn't realize you asked about that 10 AA

I was tilting off the planet in a heroic pug on my lock lol

[lofty glen]

holy shit

[lament osprey]

@lusty grotto you didnt deserve that 10 AA

also is using puzzle box int'ing?

as prot warrior?

[lofty glen]

if you cant use it on cd yes.

[drowsy comet]

loggin in rn, I hope for a set piece...

jesus christ

[shell fern]

Hey guys, I’m new to tanking so I don’t know what to pick here this week😅

I simmed it and it tells me the boots but idk if that’s worth it

[sweet prawn]

Hi mates is there a good way for us to Proc the endboss neck or is it just a good state item? Got it in vault

[lament osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[maiden quiver]

The 2 pc rings from NPX, but mainly it's just good stats with the huge haste

[drowsy comet]

nobody gonna beat me

btw new housing weeekly quest is a horse race xD

[lofty glen]

well for long term shoulders are good. you get your set and after that you will get farster catalyst charges which can be used on a lot of slots cause our full set has alot of BiS stats

[maiden quiver]

Unrelated but what addon is that?

[ionic fern]

Man won the lottery.

[slim zodiac]

hi can someone help me decide

1st item is BIS waist piece according to wowhead dropped from vaelgot & ezzorak
2nd item is not BIS gloves but it is a heroic set piece, and i am already at 1/4. with this i will unlock 2/4 set bonus

[vast epoch]

Enjoy the weekly horrors of questions starting regulars

[pulsar jay]

do i take hero legs so i can make 4p or the chimaerus trinket?

[slim zodiac]

yeah gosh i hate when theres a question in the warrior discord made for questions/debate/minmax

[vast epoch]

And good luck on vaults everyone

[vast epoch]

I don't

It's fun to read this when bored

[pulsar jay]

I guess 4p asap right? so i can get the catalyst charges? the chimaerus trinket is only hero track anyway

[slim zodiac]

next week we get a catalyst

[lofty glen]

set

you get more cata charges after reaching set. and the belt is also able to obtain throug cata

[slim zodiac]

even if the hands set piece is not bis?

[pulsar jay]

so i go for trinket then?

[lofty glen]

i would go for it. and if you have tier set you always can cheat your way into groups whne you say 4pc

[ionic fern]

Do not look for bis lists individually. They are only bis if you have the whole set as is. If the tier takes you to 2/4, you take that any day.

Outside of tier,always sim yourself for the best upgrade.

[slim zodiac]

understood thanks boys

[wild monolith]

so if I have 0 set items and get the alnseer trinket i just go for it as its by far biggest upgrade instead of 1 random set piece? in vault

[ionic fern]

Alnseer any day. Even at heroic level it outperforms a lot of higher lvl trinkets.

[lofty glen]

would you even do it with trinked on champ track?

[ionic fern]

Hero/myth track Alnseer will more than likely be more difficult to obtain than tier pieces. Tier drops from more bosses and it can also be catalysted,so yes.

[drowsy comet]

Why are ppl so freaking toxic towards tanks in raids bruh.. its getting quite frustrating getting flamed for a minor mistake, like oh no we dont insta clear the raid...

[pulsar jay]

took trinket, ty for advice

[ionic fern]

Tell them to bug off.

[lofty glen]

well the mechanics for tanks are braindead. and if you fuck up then they are mad. its wow. 1st time since a long time we have to do our job right

[ionic fern]

Don't let it get to you.

[wild monolith]

its only champ but still sims as 1k dps increase for same ilvl other trinkets, which is kinda big i suppose

[ionic fern]

Jep.

[drowsy comet]

yea but like.. in dungeons ppl are quite cool, but in raids.. like bro calm tf out with yo bald ass playing at 8am in the morning. Always the DPS...ALWAYS who complain

[ionic fern]

Do consider the content you will be doing tho for Alnseer. It is a lot more reliable in raids than m+ due to traveling etc.

[scenic summit]

Quick question for you guys. When opening a vault what priority do you pick items on? I have a veteran weapon but now I can take a hero one. On the other hand. I have adventurer level gloves and I can also choose hero level gloves that would start me on getting my first set piece (I have 0 so far)

[ionic fern]

What did you craft?

[scenic summit]

I crafted nothing

[ionic fern]

Why?

[scenic summit]

I'm more casual then anything and I'm broke?

LOL

[drowsy comet]

think i should maybe get back to healing i guess idk

[ionic fern]

If you enjoy tanking then don't. Just stay a tank. People will complain,just learn to ignore them unless it's constructive criticism.

[lofty glen]

wait till they ask for your rout in m+ higher keys and kicking you cuase they think its trash

[ionic fern]

I generally would go for weapon first for the increased damage output. Outside of that, a high level shield is a good option. Then just follow sims.

[drowsy comet]

and then ppl wonder why nobody wants to take anymore? lmao

[lofty glen]

exactly this XD

[maiden quiver]

Cool, then they get to spend the next 10 mins finding a tank while I get a new group instantly 🤷

[scenic summit]

My shield is champion level so probably go for the hero weapon then. I will be doing raids this week probably

I'm also an armorsmith so I can probably make better gear and need to rely on drops for my weapons

[fathom meteor]

bred any of yall struggling to find people to craft a shield too

[vast epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/no-cap-frfr-on-odin-gif-15962492229130097527

Bothering with people's idiotism as a tank is skillissue

You are in position to control those peasents

Never forget this @drowsy comet you got this

[shell fern]

guys r there any MDT profiles to use?

[lofty glen]

https://raider.io/weekly-routes

[pastel geyser]

yo people, if i have a crafted 1 hander and want to craft a shield as well, is it worth opening vault as fury or prot

[ionic fern]

You want a mythic shield in the end and crafted pieces on low value slots. Fury lootspec has just a chance to net you some DPS exclusive trinkets,but that's about it

So for this week it doesn't really matter,but for next week when you have a chance to get mythic track gear you should open as Prot for the shield.

[pastel geyser]

so should i not craft a myth shield?

was planning to, since im usually unlucky with wep drops from vault

think i got 1 myth wep out of the last 4 seasons ive played

[lofty glen]

how good is prot compared to the other tanks? does anyone has a list for m+?

[snow tapir]

is delve boss 1 time weekly reward or reset?

[pastel geyser]

thought it was 1 time period

the myth crests at least

[round pendant]

Don't read chat lil gup

But yeah raid is where all the toxicity is in pugs

[drowsy comet]

i need a break from tanking imma be honest

one of these dummies messaged me to unalive myself and thats where I draw the line, reported this guy and yea

in a normal raid btw, because I messed up a small thing in the first 2 bosses

https://giphy.com/gifs/sad-cat-eyes-crying-fFa05KbZowXiEIyRse

[sand condor]

ignore those creatures

stand tall. you are strong.

[pastel geyser]

i suggest u never play league

if u ever think about it

[slow pilot]

don’t let random ppl on internet get u down

I messed up soaks last night cuz after 5 attempts while being evens he moved me to odds, that’s dumb raid leader mgmt in a pug

[drowsy comet]

I played Valorant, that was enough. LoL would hurt me alot, especially if I´d play rank

[slow pilot]

I got kicked but that raid leader is an idiot for not notifying the raid he was changing groups, at the end of the day it’s just a video game

[drowsy comet]

yea the RL in this pug group was checking raid logs apparently and saw that I only did 5/6 in Voidspire on NM. Told him that the group quit at Alleria and its not my fault. Didnt believe me and yea

[round pendant]

Yeah pug groups aren't the most intelligent bunch

But their opinions are worthless, you'll never see them again, just go agane

[drowsy comet]

im on my resto druid again, gearing her up to 250 ilvl and then doing keys. Will get back to my tank in atleast a week, also have abit of private stuff to do in the mean time

[fluid widget]

Surprisingly yeah, dodging balls is hard for how long the fight is

[visual kestrel]

very vauge question, should I be concerned about the amount of damage I am taking in a +10 or is it because I am currently using a 250 shield?

[maiden quiver]

It's consistently ranked #2 behind monk

[maiden quiver]

It's week 1, 10s should hurt, but be doable with proper rotation. 250 isn't awful but you would want to upgrade that asap

[chrome falcon]

every time i check my wowhead news channel sense proves himself to be even more goated

demon mode truly

[terse hollow]

what are people using these days to track ignore pain amount?

[torn gulch]

nothing

[terse hollow]

default ui can do it?

[torn gulch]

no we don't track it at all

[maiden quiver]

You don't track IP

You just press ip when you're above 70 rage and you don't need to press shield block immediately.

That's it

[chrome falcon]

Whether or not IP is up should basically never impact your decision making

[polar raft]

yes, cooldown manager can track it

[warm plinth]

Hi yes i was summoned?

[tribal wharf]

The more things change

[polar raft]

why is everyone going for crit? i didn't play warrior for a while so im still stuck on the haste-vers stat in my mind 😄

[tribal wharf]

Give parry

That why

[polar raft]

yea i know that but it was never worth it at least when i played

[tribal wharf]

Parry means zero dmg taken

Big critical, big chance to pary

[warm plinth]

We've pretty much always recommended haste/crit here