protection

[fringe mural]

but i don't know if those guys do it or not

[simple moat]

do we wait myth crest to craft or use hero

[jagged pier]

U wait

[desert moss]

Clusterhead is right, killed those two on hero yesterday, after cast ends u got like half a second so do it DURING the cast it’s not that hard tbh, just switch to ur fellow tanks target 3 secs before the cast and just taunt at the right moment

At least that’s how I did it because if I am honest even knowing what to do I still f uped 3 or 4 times, cause panicked or because tab jumped to dranie

[slender bison]

If you taunt DURING Judgement, the debuff will land on old tank and you'll get the tank buster. All guides fail to mention this

You're not 5ms server latency to taunt the tank buster in a GCD window

[maiden quiver]

Poor bears, catching more nerfs when they're already mid after the last round of nerfs

[desert moss]

I got a question about the last boss, can please clarify smth.
P 1 yesterday after like a couple of wipes second tank told me that I should kite Mori (the guy on the right) into the puddles, is that true? And if so why? Seen a lot of boss guide videos but no one told me that before+ I saw some guides suggest u go demi—-vori—- mori but ppl in raid always prefer mori—-demi—- vori.
I know the second way well but haven’t rly tried the demi first is it any better? All opinions are welcome

[unique tree]

droplets drop a puddle on death that debuffs big adds with dmg taken debuff

[desert moss]

All 3 of them take damage intake amp ?

[unique tree]

everything and one who gets hit by the puddles

[desert moss]

That makes sense thx

[long stone]

Question: Hero Tier set or weapon out of the vault this week ? Which should we take

[jagged pier]

tier

[dusty basalt]

quick question, is collosus so much better then Mountain thane for dmg?
My Heal logs are blue and purple but i just can get above a grey log in dps... i know its not the main aspect as tank but id like to improve

[jagged pier]

healing logs means nothing, if your grey u are just playing incorrectly will need logs to look at it

[lofty warren]

how do you see your prey rep?

[dusty basalt]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/antonidas/yuukaíí?boss=3179

even if i compare to top parses i dont see a huge difference in the order of what spell deals dmg like shield slam first, thunder clap second followed by Devastator and LStrike

still hes like 2x my dmg 😄

Shield Slam
31.85%3.75m 110 34.1k 199 18.8k 22.1% - - 8,058.3

Shield Slam

38.72%6.81m 123 55.4k 215 31.7k 42.8% - 0.92% 18,546.8

yeah he got 13 more casts out but holy moly why is the difference THAT insane, he even had a 1% miss chance which i didnt

[jagged pier]

not a huge difference???

they have nearly the same shield slams casts as u in 2 less minutes

and 6 times more revenge casts

[dusty basalt]

ok maybe i need some catching up on basics

Shield slam whenever ready, thunderclap whenever empowered and ready?

[jagged pier]

u need to press your buttons

your about 20 cpm low

[dusty basalt]

i dont get that im slamming my keyboard like crazy, i feel like im not wasting CD's that much

globalcd*

[jagged pier]

well u are

[pallid quiver]

It's almost certainly that you're not actually pressing buttons on the GCD if your CPM as a whole is that low, no matter how much you think you are

[jagged pier]

your porbably soing this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/966342876109885500/WuLoB9ellc-1.gif

not actually pressing the correct thing

[pallid quiver]

You might be over indulging on rage and trying to press revenge with no rage or something

[dusty basalt]

Shield slam > Thunderclap > Revenge/Ignore pain to stop overcap? isnt it like that?

letting any cd for defense out of the rota, im only speaking about dps

[long stone]

Dude - disco warrior

IP whenevver 70+ rage

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/waving-lizard-hoppers-LPFNd1AJBoYcVUExmE

[long stone]

The warrior loa

[dusty basalt]

even on puppet i cant get above 22k, i think im too stupid lol

[lofty warren]

how many do you have to do to get to level 4

[long stone]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-gif-4133321797479779339

[dusty basalt]

please give Arcane intelect..

[long stone]

4 Hard

[pallid quiver]

another question, since I'm not actively playing this season and don't know the fights

uh, why was your first shield block press at over 26 seconds into the fight?

[long stone]

Gives 1000 everytime

Because of shildcharge ?

[pallid quiver]

it makes shield slam do more damage while it's up, and that's long enough for shield block to come back off cd without any haste or talents

[long stone]

It gives shieldblock as opener

[pallid quiver]

you

can stack shield block duration

up to three times

There is literally no reason to have not pressed shield block there

[long stone]

Maybe it was a 2 Tank Phase and he was Tank 2 ?

[jagged pier]

[long stone]

Dunno which fight etc Cant Look atm

[pallid quiver]

Again, uh,

If you did literally fuck all for 26 seconds, with zero talents, shield block would be back

It has a base CD of 16 seconds iirc

[dusty basalt]

13 with haste even

[pallid quiver]

At any rate, a lot of it seems like you might be floundering with the base rotation, which is a bit of a common response to a new spec.

It might help to do some muscle memory building at dummies if you can afford like 15 minutes a day to it where you just intentionally watch your buttons and make sure you're hitting them carefully and the way you actually intend

[dusty basalt]

can you give me any guide at hand? like i really need to know what im doing wrong as it must be fundamentally wrong 😄

[waxen frigate]

holyyy

[pallid quiver]

Honestly, I think your baseline idea of how to play might be fine; you just keep running into instances like this:

Where you just delay hitting a global for an awkward period of time

I'd also recommend watching your IP casts; you might be pressing IP a bit too often, costing you rage to keep GCDs filled with Revenge

[jagged pier]

your not pressing buttons

thats what your doing fundementally wrong

[dusty basalt]

i must be stupid, im really spending every god damn GCD and still i cant get above 22k at puppet (unbuffed)

[jagged pier]

u arent

the logs are litterally showing u arent

[pallid quiver]

It also feels like at a glance that you might not be maintaining uptime on the boss as much as you could in this log at least, but I can't tell without more knowledge on the specific fight; like you appear to generally have the right idea, but just aren't spending every GCD. Again, I'd recommend not just slamming buttons at the dummy, but intentionally slowing down and building up to speed

Don't try to mash everything together all at once, or you'll just flounder and drown

[long stone]

Are i Taking the right puppet :D?

[dusty basalt]

i tryed alot to ping / even charging to kick adds and stuff

usually i have to take the raidlead role, but it feels just ass beeing then grey logged dps really wanna improve

[pallid quiver]

Doing more things will naturally hurt your performance, as you're taking on more cognitive load

If you don't have good muscle memory going, which logs are showing you don't, it's something that will actively harm you until you build that muscle memory

[dusty basalt]

but shouldnt atleast at puppet i then get up to 30k dps?

well yeah ok 30k i can reach at puppet for 5min atleast that...

99.79 isnt the active time the thing i care about ?

[tribal wharf]

dont feel so bad

warrior in guild "crushing buttons", monk in guild "press your buttons"

sim for fury warriior 252 equipped, shows 59.5k

i go to training dummies, first time then lfr for test 27k dps

oh im missing recklessness, surely that will help

38k

and its honestly been like that since bfa with me, probably before too

so thats going to limit what i can play for dps, and i already iknow im crap at healer

so, that leaves tank and warrior feels good

hopefully i can not suck at warrior/monk too

[mild vessel]

Trying prot warr with your advices, now i cant die and i'm doing more dmg than my bdk. Loving it

My wrist is painful but that's ok lol

[tribal wharf]

you will die as pwar when healer out of range or out of mana or dc

dont you wory

no longer die to fall dmg due to leap and charge and intervene

[mild vessel]

Yeah i saw i'm a lot more reliant on healer than other tanks

Idk if this will be a pain in a m+ pug enviroment

[drowsy comet]

https://youtu.be/HUz3QKdDV88?si=Y_yrCHVQUi2KxJps

[desert moss]

@dusty basalt but still, it’s fine the first week, we learn stuff, but u seem to have the same problem as me- too much ignore pain and not enough shield block, and I actually think one leads to another

[sharp gale]

It will depend on the key lvl / type of dmg, your hp bar will basically not move most of the time but not bc hps

[dusty basalt]

I was playing Warrior so Long so yeah i thought iwas better

Atleast i dont die and i Position Bosses tight so WE can kill them in pugs x)

[sharp gale]

I remember the first week of S3 I witnessed one of those, it was so wrong advertisement

Tank linking mdt route named easy route by yodah, we check his 11th pull, it was satanic for an advertised easy pug route first week

We both laugh when we saw that

[drowsy comet]

Yea the only dungeons that are kinda "hard" to pull are PoS, SoT, and Masara Caverns (kind of). Thats really it tbh, the rest is whatever. Algethar Academy can be quite rough, especially with pugs. But yea

ah shit

some of these do look diabolical

[sharp gale]

Just don’t do MDI pulls or weird gathering ones in gearing keys

[drowsy comet]

hell nah, i dont give a shit about MDI routes. Especially not in lower keys for right now

[sharp gale]

You can time by doing pack by pack+press w, just don’t abuse doing too big bc no one knows shit the first week

[tribal wharf]

apply to random +6 key

do normal large pulls

"???????????? tank why u not pull bigger"

u can pull bigger u know

dies

remove from group

[drowsy comet]

i will do a couple of +2s or probably go fast to +5s do these, to memorize abit of the routes and what to pull. Considering how Lindormi´s Guidance looks ingame, if its inside the dungeon visually, or just on minimap

[tribal wharf]

TANK U SUCK 😠

[sharp gale]

/leave if someone talk bad about you

You have 0.05 sec m+ queue 🤷‍♂️

[tribal wharf]

its, just, a road i've been down too many times

i dont wanna go down that road no more lol

[drowsy comet]

dont you get hit with a 30min penalty?

[sharp gale]

No

You get flagged with sacrifice mark if you do it too much

But no one cares bc you are a tank

[tribal wharf]

thats LFD and thats been around since the patch after LFD was put into the game

cuz we had unholy dk tanks

and arms warriors

queining as tank

or not knowing how to play and then leaving upon causing wipes or dying alot

so, blizzard addded the 30 minute debuff

and its never ever been changed

now, my personal opinion???? mytthic 0 (seasonal dungeons only), should be in LFD rotations, under its own list

gives automated way for players to get into mythic dungeon to see difference in mechanics, and trade gear

without any sort of time limit or stress factor beyond what the dungeon already provides

[sharp gale]

Idk what it would change

[daring marlin]

only thing it would change is removing the lockout

[sharp gale]

And being able to have leaver penalty

[daring marlin]

guess yogi think navigating the lfg is too hard for people

[tribal wharf]

mythic dungeon mode adds 1 -2 abilities per boss and makes some skill check encounters (5star vs 1 star from murder i think)

so that players can constantly interact with it on mythic to see all abitlies it can do, so they dont wipe the group in keys

[sharp gale]

Ppl learn when fail = wipe, so it will be in 6s-7s

[tribal wharf]

rather than the secrets to running the keystones are just murmurings and whispers of myths

and then oh you failed at it, you must not know the trick

your an idiot

like, at that point, the only practice is to do it 50 times till its natural

[solid sun]

Is it +6’s we are spamming today for hero track gear?

[tribal wharf]

i saw it somewhere but i didnt really make note

[hardy snow]

yes

[solid sun]

And then 9s and 10s for myth crests?

[pastel geyser]

Is it a bad idea to macro demo shout into avatar?

[tribal wharf]

6 for hero gear, 9 for myth crest

[solid sun]

Nice

[tribal wharf]

10s for myth vault

dont think you can get myth track from dungeon loot

[hardy snow]

myth gear from dungs is from vault and will be from bonus rolls in 12.0.5.

on 10+

[solid sun]

Also

We don’t want to upgrade hero track gear below 3/6

[tribal wharf]

ya true i am 252 ilvl equipped

but 2 of those slots are still 240

so i dont get achievement for outgrowing crest or somethin

need 250 in those slots

[hardy snow]

imo depends, I've got hero shield and weapon in first week, so I've dumped all crests into that

[tribal wharf]

capped on crests

[hardy snow]

you can get easy veteran gear for bloody tokens

just do sparks of war weekly

[dusky canopy]

be patient and wait for 3/6H to spend crest

[tribal wharf]

warrior is maximum capped for week atm, only 6 prey and black smithing event and could do raid

fury and prot set more or less completed

[daring marlin]

have you done nulleaus yet?

Uncapped crests

[tribal wharf]

is he out door world boss

2/2 for week

[solid sun]

Delve nemesis

[tribal wharf]

spawns in every 3.5 days, errr phases in, i guess is better

i did tier 8 delve

but i didnt do a whole lot of tww delve either,

[solid sun]

I stuck to +8s as well

[tribal wharf]

i did ONE tier 8 delve

maybe i should say

[solid sun]

I almost forgot to do a map also lol but remembered in one of my delves last night

[tribal wharf]

i mean, i could just blast 2-3

i just go with healer valeera

and tank build

[pastel geyser]

As tank? The hell

I was swimming through 11s with dps valeera

[tribal wharf]

ya, i did tier 6 or something, and i saw a chest, have no key

t7, died to something with her as dps

no chest

[pastel geyser]

Well was iy bountiful?

[tribal wharf]

t8, get my keys, healer , get to open chest

[pastel geyser]

Should do 8 tier 8s this week

For hero track in vault ig

Unless u did hc raid

[tribal wharf]

nah, am super casual

easy mode enjoyer at times

[wary gyro]

should still do it anyway for the extra tier chances tbh

[daring marlin]

He's the ?? boss in Voidstorm.

Go get him

[tribal wharf]

rotates every ~3.5 days?

[daring marlin]

No. It's for the mount.

He's always up.

[drowsy comet]

The Rock with a wig looks so weird. The Moana irl movie is a fever dream

[solid sun]

Yeah he is

[drowsy comet]

like bro

[dusky canopy]

photoshop

bro lost mad size

[drowsy comet]

funny how his body is edited lmao

[drowsy comet]

he gets older and ofc muscles get "lower" to say the least tho

2015 Dwayne Johnson was a literal beast

[polar cradle]

Are we running a defensive trinket to push keys this season? All I can find in guides are offensive trinkets

[tribal wharf]

yeah

that was fast

combat of 6 minutes

[solid sun]

Not just getting older tho

He purposely cut a ton of his bulk

[dusky canopy]

ozempic

[tribal wharf]

brew no healer was mistake

[drowsy comet]

i did him with 3 other dudes, this boss is so lame

[dusky canopy]

neat little challenge solo

[hardy snow]

every delve boss in group is lame

[drowsy comet]

we had an ele shaman with 2 set bonus, bro was doing damage like no other lol

[daring marlin]

ez crests

[torn gulch]

i am curious on his weekly crest rewards

[dusty basalt]

if my Thunderclap and my shieldbash are both procced, so both are shiny in toolbar... which has priority?

[lusty grotto]

always TB > SS > TC > Revenge or Execute (in ST as thane only)

shield slam

[dusty basalt]

ok

thx

[tribal wharf]

ya

im not bothering doing that on alts lol

[toxic gyro]

You just do it in group on alt with tank and it’s a free kill. If I remember correctly he doesn’t do tank buster in group.

[dusty basalt]

nulleaus was the easiest challenge boss the last few seasons

i was 250 and needed 3 trys... and you saw how bad my logs are 😄

[sharp gale]

He do tank buster only if there is a tank

[tribal wharf]

not for me

i gave up on doing it with monk

[sharp gale]

(Valeera counts, that’s why she is doggo as tank)

[toxic gyro]

Not sure. It was so much of a joke I can’t even remember apparently. I 1shot ?? with my gf thinking it was just ? and then soloed it an never went there again

[tribal wharf]

warrior no problem, monk , nope

[torn gulch]

you can still go with a group to get your crests

if you did the solo ?? on warrior

[toxic gyro]

Valeera as healer and bring some dps with you, should be easy no?

[tribal wharf]

she puts the circle down where he puts the line

then im being black holed

then p4 and gg

[sharp gale]

Do it with a group, i helped my guild mates for the crests

[torn gulch]

you can do it in a standard dounge on group of 5 with valeera as dps

i have a level 41 valeera she's cranking

[sharp gale]

Idk about dps valeera she seems to crank only on the adds, she did absolutely doggo boss damage meanwhile she is at 125k dps st in regular delves

[toxic gyro]

You also get stacking dmg increase buff, up to 25%. And just bring regular healer and it should be a joke.

[torn gulch]

You can direct her with pings to crank on boss as far as i know

[ivory barn]

Her AI is funky, you have to kill LITERALLY every mob in the delve or she runs to it on the boss

[ivory barn]

O.o, how do you set up pings

[torn gulch]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/use-pings-to-control-valeera-in-delves-380924

[tribal wharf]

does this work for pug keystones

[torn gulch]

the ping system?
if they listen to you yes kekw

[sharp gale]

Yeah pings are OP in pug

[toxic gyro]

Yea especially when ppl keep pinging random shit

[solid sun]

Was this fixed

[tribal wharf]

what is the point of kill the ? boss

i only have ? not ??

you guys mean 1, not 2 right

[lusty grotto]

according to Pash yes

[dusky canopy]

Maddox mentioned the other day that he has gotten 3 charges since aquireing 4pc

[tribal wharf]

if i can scam a hero vault out of it, im doin it

[dusky canopy]

maybe more now

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats intended, what Rhino says is alts getting them

[toxic gyro]

?? With group that have tank, healer, and some dps, valeera as dps. Setup like that make it absolute joke of a fight.

[ivory barn]

You have to complete a T10 delve to unlock ?? I believe

[lofty warren]

What are the easiest dungeons now? I saw the df one got buffed

[ivory barn]

AA needed something, we pulled the entire tree room lol

[tribal wharf]

pit of saron is a complete dumpster fire

you just steam roll the whole place zmechanics

[lofty warren]

Pulling the entire room sounds like much more fun than tiny baby pulls

[tribal wharf]

only boss 2 and 3 "enrage" phases are kinda bad

[lofty warren]

Pit of sorrow boss 3 maybe with lots of adds waves can get bad?

[tribal wharf]

boss 1 needs 1 more mechanic added to it

hes wayyyyyy to easy

some group slow when you blow up 1 of the 2 rocks and hes about to do aoe

make it tough to reach LOS

or like a tank targeted line/cone ground smash

[ivory barn]

If anyone remembers the dog boss in Mechagnome, there is a slight hidy hole you can blast

[pearl ravine]

was trying out colossus prot war its idk

the damage is comparable to thane

[dusky canopy]

we out here hidy hole blastin

[pearl ravine]

but the buildup is too long

maybe in dungeons it works better than on dummies

cuz u constantly have stacks ready

[solid sun]

IMO colossus gather is super annoying

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[lusty grotto]

its not that long, revenge has damage amps at low stacks anyway

but thane is slightly better output wise

[undone beacon]

Blizzard hotfixed this a few days ago yeah

[lofty warren]

On the dungeon ease tier list - fill in the rest

S: Pit of sorrow
A:
B:
C:
Delete This Dungeon Pls:

[solid sun]

How did you discover it

[undone beacon]

Discover that it was fixed?

[solid sun]

Yeppers

[undone beacon]

They put it in the hotfix notes a few days ago

[solid sun]

Oh so it was stealth fixed

(That’s a callback)

It’s not meant to be literal stop trying to give me a Judy chop

[solid sun]

Nice

[torn gulch]

i mean that used to be the thing in all iterations of AA

[tribal wharf]

this thing is an asshole

I HATE IT SO MUCH

[undone beacon]

No its a black hole

[tribal wharf]

i killed it but

[undone beacon]

4head

[tribal wharf]

i hate that god damn thing so much

[torn gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-funny-laugh-gif-11964564

[tribal wharf]

ya well

its fun and games till

valeera puts donw the circle

line on the healing circle

and now the black holes sucking you in

while an ogre is casting shit at you

[torn gulch]

tbh the hearts are much better than the circle itself

[tribal wharf]

paladin is ilvl 215

no god damn way i send him to his doom on this mision

[torn gulch]

yes that's not happening unless you re carried by a group

i think ?? is tuned for 270+ for the average folk

somewhere in the region of that

[ivory barn]

Having valeera as a healer made ?? A 8 1/2min flight, no lust or potions

But that was at 242ilvl

[solid sun]

Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.

[torn gulch]

13 minutes at 239 with level 13 healer valeera

[undone beacon]

Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.

[tribal wharf]

this succesfull one i just ran was 9 minutes

brew 248 and healer

[solid sun]

Pash hit that so fast

Hot dang

[tribal wharf]

oh, lvl 14 healer

i should add

Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.

[daring marlin]

Vault hype

One more hour til all belts

[ivory barn]

It's gonna be 9 different trinkets and you gonna like it

[daring marlin]

Trinkets are so bad this tier tho

[solid sun]

Isn’t there longer maintenance

[ivory barn]

4hrs, but it's gonna be till 3pst

[daring marlin]

Is there? Booo. Guess I wait til 9pm to check then.

[tribal wharf]

lvl 49 stamina trinket incoming

from

i dunno

tbc

[ivory barn]

Get your delve ilvl 🗑️ here!

[tribal wharf]

i got some helmet for that mog

[lusty grotto]

wdym isnt there a 4 hr maintenance?

[solid sun]

Ya

[daring marlin]

I looked before I left and didn't see

[daring marlin]

[ivory barn]

245 for heroic this week sounds fine

[lusty grotto]

dont scare me like that i planned my day to do all weeklies

in the morning

[daring marlin]

bro isn't 255

[lusty grotto]

of other games

[daring marlin]

shameful

[daring marlin]

gamer

[ivory barn]

I'm 250 but have to keep up prot and fury. Might have to look at arms now

[daring marlin]

I got tier chest on my lock and did some bountiful delves on my dk

[ivory barn]

Hmmmm crafted weapon smells good now at instant crested myth track

[daring marlin]

gonna be real funny if they get tier outta vault but not my pally

[lusty grotto]

i managed to squeeze out of going to the office today so i can do this

[daring marlin]

based

[lusty grotto]

since i wont be around after wednesday

[daring marlin]

tell 'em it's a mental health day or whatever the youngins say nowadays

[lusty grotto]

nah i told them i needed time to pack

which i do

[dusty basalt]

guys one stupid question... when im using the 1 button rotation... what should me log be like realisticly? 40? 50?

[lusty grotto]

mwahi goes over it in icy-veins

but as far as log output goes... thats not something we keep track of

we arent really one-button-rotation gamers here

[sharp gale]

If you want to have an easier time switching fury/prot try to grab heavy mastery jewelry for fury and you can play with everything else prot or vis versa

[jagged pier]

One butto rotation is probably like grey on logs

Tbh it misses a tone of stuff

[sharp gale]

A dude in competitive wow did the test in S2 or S3

[lusty grotto]

there are classes that do well with it

yes we knoww

all you need is haste

but...

we're not warlocks

or hunters

[jagged pier]

I mean specifically for us

For some classes its great

For us not so much

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[lusty grotto]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-rotation-cooldowns-abilities#assisted-rotation-for-specspec-specclass

[ivory barn]

I think I'm heavy crit rn

[sharp gale]

Jewelry will be enough

[ivory barn]

RL knows I like Prot more

[sharp gale]

Dw

[ivory barn]

Ok, not bad stats

[lusty grotto]

please lets not

start with the stat screenshots

its too early

and it really does not matter

[ivory barn]

[warm plinth]

3% vers? Don't you know you need 13.63% to survive keys? Smh

[lusty grotto]

is your sim good? then youre good

[ivory barn]

Idk what I even sim rn

[ornate palm]

Maybe I’m just missing it on icyveins, but what is the logic behind choosing the passive version of ravager over the casted version or vice versa?

[ivory barn]

Ahh yes 40,300

[lusty grotto]

you use ravager only if you want controlled burst, but we mostly go whirling blade

both give you the 50% more damage buff anyway

and whirling has good ppm

so no reason to think about ravager if you dont see any use case for it on a personal level

[ornate palm]

So it’s the old bonus of not having to waste thought into it. Just blast and let it take care of itself.

[lusty grotto]

and the ppm is great

there virtually 0 reason to go ravager in most settings

again, if you cant think of a use case, then its not something you should worry about (i.e. sense used it in his wf nullaus kill to burst down adds)

[strong forum]

[ornate palm]

Copy. Appreciate it.

[lofty warren]

When ur in mt m+ build and you have 2x tc and shield slam available and there is only 1 enemy, which should you push?

[toxic pewter]

how much more damage does our tier set even give

[jagged pier]

At least 7

[toxic pewter]

our tier seems pretty bad this season and Yeah I know season 1 tier not meant to be amazing

prob one of the worst tier set bonuses of any spec

[undone beacon]

According to the Ulria spreadsheet its ~7% to go from 0pc to 4pc on ST

[toxic pewter]

ok damn that more than I expected

I take back what I said above mostly

[fresh crane]

yo chat whats the best way to sim prot m+ is it just dungeon slice

[solid sun]

No

[undone beacon]

1 boss 5 mins for ST
5 bosses 1:30 for AoE

[fresh crane]

❤️ thanks chat

[solid sun]

I only said no because I fully trusted pash was going to speed type the correct answer

[strong forum]

what does our tierset do

[sharp gale]

Tierset stuff and such

[toxic pewter]

basically makes shield charge do 100% more dam

[undone beacon]

2pc doubles shield charge damage and gives 10% SS damage
4pc gives 10% TC and Revenge damage, and SC gives Revenge!

[urban bane]

i have no idea but ill guess shield slam hits harder and does other stuff

[strong forum]

did they remove SC granting Revenge! ?

[toxic pewter]

oh right and revenge! in tier set ya

[undone beacon]

Yep

But they gave it back in the tier set

[solid sun]

Every day we push nome further away

[toxic pewter]

lol

[strong forum]

wow

[toxic pewter]

[strong forum]

take away talent -> give back in form of borrowed power or new talent locked behind hero talent

WOWEEE

call it "expansion"

[toxic pewter]

[undone beacon]

Yeah thats gaming

https://tenor.com/view/xlov-wumuti-rui-wow-world-of-warcraft-gif-15072705613206864583

[strong forum]

those are femboys

[undone beacon]

no complaints

[daring marlin]

@toxic pewter you get any tier bro

[toxic pewter]

0

[daring marlin]

Fuuuuck

[toxic pewter]

havent even seen a single piece drop

literlly zero plate pieces have dropped killed 16 bosses

[undone beacon]

I cant wait to be fucking useless in keys as shadow because I have no tier

[daring marlin]

Left one has Pash energy

[undone beacon]

[toxic pewter]

lol

i failed getting aotc first week also

I am a failure..

[daring marlin]

I saw plate drop in lfr

lost it all lmfao

only my goofy lock got chest

I have a feeling he'll get 4pc first

[undone beacon]

My rat hunter has 4pc

[toxic pewter]

I will see what the vault gives me..

[daring marlin]

WHO NEEDS TIER ANYWAY

I WILL DROP MANY HAMMERS REGARDLESS

[toxic pewter]

yes

[undone beacon]

I swear my vault is gonna be like
Hey buddy here some tier
Oh also heres a heroic Alnseer trinket

I feel it coming

the universe hates me

[lusty grotto]

open vault first on alt

[daring marlin]

shoulda just manifested it dropping into your inventory

[toxic pewter]

oh shit Guilford u got alnseer right

[daring marlin]

....some witch

[toxic pewter]

i need that..

[daring marlin]

ye

[toxic pewter]

lol

[daring marlin]

my idiot druid friend got puzzle box and kept it for bear

[toxic pewter]

i would take the trinket screw tier

[undone beacon]

I tried but my witch powers are still nascent

[ivory barn]

And the nerfed crown on normal/heroic

[daring marlin]

that he never plays

[undone beacon]

[toxic pewter]

damn thats sad they nerfed crown.. and i didnt get the kill before nerf.. my aotc will be tarnished

[daring marlin]

All hail @dusky canopy week 1 AOTC King

lmao

[toxic pewter]

damn..

[toxic pewter]

🫡

[ivory barn]

They need to leave bosses in unerfed unless absolutely necessary

[undone beacon]

I mean its basically only a nerf for like 25 player raid andys

deals more damage at smaller group sizes, less at larger than before

[toxic pewter]

oh ok ngl didnt even read much of what it said

ok good to know

[undone beacon]

This guy just reads headlines

[toxic pewter]

i cant actually read good

[ivory barn]

So our 20m raid group will be fine

[undone beacon]

You will take less* damage than before

"This now means that raids of 17 players or higher will take less burst damage, but raids of 16 players or less will now take more damage from Void Expulsion, with larger buffs and nerfs occurring at the extreme ends of the scale."

[ivory barn]

We killed it on the last pull of the night last week so

[undone beacon]

big aotc gamer?

[ivory barn]

I wish

[toxic pewter]

wait guys.. what is Revenge! anyway... I am blanking on what it even is

i forget what it did

[ivory barn]

The free proc

[toxic pewter]

ok right

thats what the buff is called..

thats right

[lofty warren]

What does "grants revenge" mean? It autocasts a free one when you sc or it just gives you the thing where revenge is free?

[toxic pewter]

yeah the thing where revenge is free

so you still have to press the key to cast revenge

[lofty warren]

Thats not very good revenge is low on priority list most gcds used on ss and stomp

[toxic pewter]

just costs 0 rage which is kinda annoying sometimes cuz i want to spend rage to churn anger management

[lusty grotto]

right that part of the tier is whatever

[maiden quiver]

It just let's you dump more into ip

[lusty grotto]

revenge! procs count for AM

but they are still low prio

even if they are free

same as SD

[toxic pewter]

ohhh thats great to know I didnt realize that

thats great then

[lusty grotto]

that part of the tier is a nothingburger

you want the damage increase, thats it

[maiden quiver]

Its all about the increased aoe

[toxic pewter]

what increased aoe

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

[lofty warren]

Is it that the revenge proc goes to am or the actual cast of revenge itself that counts for am?

[lusty grotto]

unless it has changed recently a revenge! proc revenge counts as a normal revenge for AM

so 30 rage goes into AM cdr even if its free

and 40 in the case of SD

[maiden quiver]

The 4pc set gets +10% damage on our main AoE TC and Revenge

[toxic pewter]

oh like aoe damage

[lusty grotto]

thats not aoe specific

we still TC and revenge in ST

[lofty warren]

Ohh ok. But if you dont press revenge at all you dont get the perk (regardless whether you paid for it or not)

Perk = cdr for am

[maiden quiver]

At least until you get to ITF haste levels you still press revenge semi regularly, it's just low prio

[candid cove]

Anyone else seeing sims put mastery over crit and verse for dmg?

[lofty warren]

By being m+ only at qhat ilvl would you get enough haste to swap the itf talent?

[lusty grotto]

fairly common if youre low mastery

expected

[undone beacon]

#masetryIsNotABadStat

[lusty grotto]

that makes it seem like a meme

and its just a fact

if the sim recommends mastery after haste, then equip mastery

it only means what i stated: it checked your other stats, determined you gain more value from mastery

this is normal sim behavior

and also correct

what you never do with sims at least at this point in the expansion is sim haste vs other stats

because haste is needed defensively and the sim does SB uptime perfectly

so only sim haste pieces, as a rule of thumb

[undone beacon]

I mean its not a meme its what ghash was named but I cant @ him anymore since he changed his PSA

[lusty grotto]

yeah but the hashtag thing makes it seem like it

like #NoChanges

[toxic pewter]

:keksquad: no chhanges XD

[glacial wharf]

What's the best crafts? Is it weapons n shield?

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

[mild river]

Who has the highest aoe dps tank wise? DH?

[lusty grotto]

prot pally probably

[mild river]

Thanks.

[prime sapphire]

ive played warr, dh, and bm monk, bm monk def the highest it seems

[lusty grotto]

no

prot pally has the highest aoe damage

not brew

[undone beacon]

Yeah ppal cranks in AoE but is kinda dog in ST

[lusty grotto]

as always

[undone beacon]

Same as it ever was

[lusty grotto]

kinda silly how blizzard hasnt figured that out

its been consistent every season since DF

kinda feels like hyperfocused specs are still an issue too

[mild river]

Can we maintain 100% uptime on SB with our current haste using ITF?

[lusty grotto]

IFB?

[torn gulch]

no

[undone beacon]

If you mean ITF, then no

[lusty grotto]

☝️

[mild river]

Yeah. ITF haha

Sorry

[undone beacon]

Until we get more haste, HR is generally the play

[mild river]

Ok thanks!

[lusty grotto]

getting high uptime with ITF in s1 of any exp never happens

leveling and gearing happens

and when you level, your haste becomes weaker, and you lose haste when you upgrade ilvl > all as you should

so its also a problem at the start of any season, just not as big as the first one

[dusky canopy]

LOL

nah bruh I gray logged

might as well quit

[daring marlin]

I graylogged on dreamrift on my lock

because taunting big add is too much for druid tanks

[undone beacon]

I green logged because i was too scared to use Invoked Nightmares

This week tho imma be a cool kid and play it

I need to figure out a better way to track my dots on split cleave fights that isnt just whipping my camera around

[lofty warren]

I am not crafting shit until I get enough mythic crests to make mythic shield since i dont plan to waist time in myrhic raid. Nimchomp always says that pwar = no changes so I assume that is the correct thing like it always hasbeen

[toxic pewter]

sounds good

[lofty warren]

Now im unsure.. is that correct?

[undone beacon]

huh

if you aint gonna mythic raid then yes shield is a good craft

[toxic pewter]

ill prob do something similar myself tbh, just gonna craft 1h and shield

unless i get myth track of either in a future vault

[solid sun]

I’m crafting a 2h first

And then I’m gonna challenge APB to a best out of 33 duel

[toxic pewter]

lol

hell yeah

[solid sun]

APB you gonna tank some keys for me tonight?

[toxic pewter]

sure hit me up

[solid sun]

We gotta go full Texas on these mobs

Some scholars say you never go full Texas but we’re gonna risk it for the biscuit

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[solid sun]

The first time APB beats me on a boss I stg I’m retiring

[glacial wharf]

we cant have 100% uptime on shield block right? or am i stupid? theres a lil gap of like 3 seconds at least

[lusty grotto]

talent HR

scroll up and read #protection message

[glacial wharf]

appreciate it

[tribal wharf]

hard to reach that number in gear we have now

not so much by end of season with all hero and myth gear

[lofty warren]

Now thats the kind of specificity that I like

[ivory barn]

I think I have like 500 haste right now

[coarse bay]

Youd probably track dots of your target in your cdm and then track dots on another target with focus. But that only covers 2 so pretty much just dragons i guess

[red ferry]

nuh uh

[torn gulch]

I have 894 haste which is starting to make playing manageable now

low haste sucks so bad

[red ferry]

I dont break rules and i’m a morally infallible person so i dont get banned

https://tenor.com/view/cat-spin-cat-spin-hotseventyfive-poopy-gif-15634373525934554852

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[toxic pewter]

is that with or without haste flask and oil

[torn gulch]

unbuffed

[toxic pewter]

damn nice

u can basically get to the 1100 mark

[torn gulch]

i have high haste on both rings

[toxic pewter]

yah i need some of that

[torn gulch]

and the renown neck

one ring from nexus point one from delve

[jagged pier]

Khailby

[half jewel]

I am sitting at over 900 haste rating without flask or food or w.e it feels pretty good

I spent most of my week last week trying to get more haste champ gear

no heart of wind to start off so gonna end up grinding for that

[coarse bay]

I am sitting at probably low and spent yesterday doing last minute vaults

[torn gulch]

I have the big drums with haste as well

350 haste procs

[half jewel]

I got the drums on all my alts except main

[jagged pier]

im at like 943 and can have 2 trinkets that proc haste

[lofty warren]

When stuff comes back up is this the correct checklist for gearing?

• get weekly shard quest
• world boss
• dwelve 8 with map
• vault
• pray 1x mythic for free heroic
• continue with spam raid/m+ for rest of gear

[coarse bay]

Does prey give heroic gear?

I guess it looks fine

[toxic pewter]

well this past week 3x nightmare prey gave the item that summons the nemesis boss that drops the map that gives the hero loot 1x weekly

lol so convoluted when typing it out rofl

[coarse bay]

If that quest is weekly it could be worth it

Idk if itll be high on my priority list

[toxic pewter]

yah same

[coarse bay]

Gotta get into the keys asap

Check vault, get in keys

[toxic pewter]

damn really i was gonna just do all heroic raids

[coarse bay]

Dont take vault* kinda important

I mean ya u can do hero raid too

I didnt pvp for the cata charge

And i want to craft a wep sooner than later

Recraft into myth*

Thats my biggest prio

[toxic pewter]

yah true can get the myth crests in m+ much quicker

[coarse bay]

Thisll be the week of keys

Between gear, crests, and vault

Gonna be in them the entire time

[vagrant echo]

can anyone explain when and how to taunt swap on voidspire-averzian and voidspire-E&Z
and are there any tank addons worth thinking about getting this xpac?

[narrow prawn]

How long till the maintenance ends fellas

I'm out of home rn

[vagrant echo]

1.5 hrs

[narrow prawn]

Sounds great

[toxic pewter]

maintenance prob will go until 8-9pm pacfific tonight

[undone beacon]

lmao

what

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[toxic pewter]

got a sneaking suspicion we gonna see delays im usually not wrong

[coarse bay]

Theyve been pretty consistent with maintenance time so far in midnight surprisingly, but id never be surprised by delays

[undone beacon]

turning a 4 hour maintenance into a 13 hour maintenance means they fucking destroyed the backend of the game

[toxic pewter]

yeah cant really argue with you there

[toxic pewter]

XD

[coarse bay]

They had a pretty bad one tww s3

[undone beacon]

Prepatch wasnt even that long

and that literally was the addon refactor

[coarse bay]

It was like 3-4pm pacific iirc

[solid sun]

Cam are you busy with your real friends today

[heavy sparrow]

Lmao

[undone beacon]

that is such a loaded question

[solid sun]

[lusty grotto]

taunt at around 10 stacks, whoever has the highest stacks gets instant agro from adds, so that person cannot be tanking the boss or else the boss gets buffed

dragons: taunt swap after intermission and/or on gloom casts. intermission is easier, but you will have to gloom swap at the end

[undone beacon]

why am i like actually anxious irl about reset

i just want good shit grrrr

maybe thats a sign

[solid sun]

Is it anxiety or is it excitement

And you’re just unfamiliar with it

Last season you were getting your mental hurt by raid leading iirc but this time you’ve been set free

[toxic pewter]

just so much to do not enough time

[tribal wharf]

i have 1,011 haste

myself

[undone beacon]

woaw

i should mod the hell out of fallout 4 and do a run

last time i played vanilla i did a run where i used powerarmor + a minigun with no ammo to chainsaw people to death

that was fun af but kinda busted

[daring marlin]

I sure hope so

[toxic pewter]

its just because maintenances have not been too bad for a while we due for major extensions

[undone beacon]

that is not how statistics works 4head

grrrr grrrr grrrr

[toxic pewter]

i just got a feeling

[undone beacon]

A premonition?

[charred shard]

Guys does anyone else play both Monk Brew and Prot Pal and feel terribly more tanky and doing more dmg with Warrior? Is the Brew a bubble hype? Despite I have 256ilvl on the brew and 250 on the war, it's just smoother on all acounts.

[undone beacon]

Prot warrior is just very sturdy as is. Brew does a lot of mitigation through stagger which can make them feel squishier, and ppal is ppal

Shield Block does work

At the end of the day they're all going to be viable in their own right so, if you're enjoying pwarr more play pwarr

If not, play a different tank

But obv we kinda biased

[charred shard]

I don't have enough time to play both (otherwise I would)

[toxic pewter]

cant escape the prot warr

just somethin about the prot warr

[drowsy comet]

the season goes long enough tho

[ornate palm]

I’m with ya. I also have played all 3 classes, but warrior is still the most reliable feeling.

[solid sun]

Look at the latest wowhead post

Right on queue with tank death statistics

[toxic pewter]

dude

we dying like 2nd least

that bad ass

[solid sun]

Warrior is mighty

[toxic pewter]

lol ww monk dying more than the prot warr tank

XD

get rekt ww monk

and arcane mage

lmao

[lusty grotto]

turns out, picking the "meta" tank isnt a good idea if you dont know how to play it

who knew 🤷‍♂️

its not like managing stagger is hard

[toxic pewter]

prot paladins dyingg over half the deaths LOL

[lusty grotto]

and brew is SIGNIFICANTLY easier than it ever was before

[solid sun]

Arms warriors dying more than fury warriors and there are like 4 arms warriors

[toxic pewter]

dang other tanks need some defensive buffs i guess

[ornate palm]

Is there a reason the death x-axis is in increments of .5? I died on that pull, but only half-way.

[lusty grotto]

its the VDH frailty scenario all over again!

[undone beacon]

Bad bear tourists getting clapped

I blame streamers who just told everyone bear does giga damage and you dont need to use rage on defensives so every fotm andy that rolls bear just falls over

[glad magnet]

every time i have a buddy reroll meta and green parse

[solid sun]

I wonder how many of the bear deaths are even bear deaths

Maybe they’re armadillo deaths

[undone beacon]

I do like how holy priests are the lowest, probably because of Restitution

[raw parcel]

I've been leaning towards making Brew my main this season, honestly. It was always too much button bloat for my taste but I always wanted to give it a go, and now I can. 😄

[undone beacon]

I mean the nice thing about tanks is that really unless you're playing bleeding edge any tank can be your main. I knew very good brews all throughout last xpac

[raw parcel]

I tried bear once. I dunno what I was doing wrong, but I felt like I was made of paper and failure and fell apart rapidly in keys. I guess being an unbreakable steel warrior wall spoiled me. 😄

[glad magnet]

like, bleeding edge keys are typically like 2 key levels apart, meanwhile people rerolling meta cause they need it for their 8s

[raw parcel]

I think "meta" is more about perception than reality. People want the "Best" tank in their pugs. If you're actually one of the best you aren't pugging, in all probability.

[undone beacon]

Bear is very sturdy in keys if played well, honestly sometimes feels sturdier to me because of how much bounce back they have in their kit compared to warrior but

I also love my pwarr to bits so

[raw parcel]

I was most assuredly not playing well. I was flailing wildly and with minimal competence. Then I went back to warrior.

[undone beacon]

Back to warrior to flail wildly with maximum competence

[raw parcel]

Exactly!

[lament osprey]

This exposes are the shit tanks 🙏

Or co tanks

[raw parcel]

I don't know yet if I'm a good brewmaster or not. Murdered the m0 pool pretty easily, but... it's m0. That's not a stress test, that's free pizza.

Still an hour or so until I can unleash my kung fu upon this season.

[toxic pewter]

na will get a maintnenance extension notification on x in like 45ish min

[undone beacon]

apb stop dooming

[toxic pewter]

[tribal wharf]

why does it matter when to clear the debuff 2nd boss magister terracc?

group wide dmg?

and healer cant

[brisk cloud]

Yea

[undone beacon]

on mythic it puts a dot that makes you take more damage

[tribal wharf]

ok

[undone beacon]

so you stagger pop

[tribal wharf]

right

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[tribal wharf]

im looking at the tips and tricks

[toxic pewter]

I will be happy to be wrong

[brisk cloud]

Healer > Ranged > Melee > DKs > Tank

Its like that 1 mechanic from 2nd boss Priory but with a dot

[icy sail]

Has there been a spell reflect guide posted yet? Maybe I missed it

[brisk cloud]

https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide

its a wip

[tribal wharf]

ton of kicks to do in pos lol

[icy sail]

Thank you

[tribal wharf]

i pray to god ppl kick the deathbolt spell

im positive thats a bad thing

[brisk cloud]

Yea, it's basically a 1 shot on higher key levels

not to you tho

[tribal wharf]

ppl dont always kick it, or not till quite late

suppose maybe thats the idea with 10s cast

[brisk cloud]

he immediately recasts it so it's a pretty good idea to delay the kick

[tribal wharf]

seems weird to go right and get garfrost, then come back for rest of mobs, then go back to ick

https://www.wowhead.com/news/learn-the-mythic-dungeons-ahead-of-release-with-wowheads-mythic-cheat-sheets-380812?utm_source=discord-webhook

im reading this and trying to learn some of it

[brisk cloud]

I route so the last 2 captives are the ones on the path between garfrost and ick

[lusty grotto]

new people getting yogi'd

[celest notch]

You go and get the captives on the left of initial entry, and then swing right so you get your last captives while pathing to garfrost/ick

[tribal wharf]

lots of the bosses are really easy tbf

[brisk cloud]

https://keystone.guru/route/pit-of-saron/Z8JVlAV/wg-pos-v1/2

[hard yoke]

Servers are live

[brisk cloud]

I do something like this

[toxic pewter]

AS I PREDICTED THE SERVERRS ARE UP

WELL BEFORE THE TIME

[tribal wharf]

well

the road is opn

[nova gorge]

Do we go Prot for vault or DPS spec?

[tribal wharf]

but the traffic isnt going

[long stone]

let the vault loot spam begin

[outer willow]

I’m gonna manifest tier

Vault tier pls

[toxic pewter]

AREa 52 taking forever as usual

[tribal wharf]

manifest loot

[long stone]

dude - delves t11 hero -> catalyst

[tribal wharf]

period

[long stone]

easy

[tribal wharf]

is what im doing

give me the loot

[outer willow]

Whoa whoa what

[nova gorge]

what spec you guys go for vault?

[tribal wharf]

dont fury

[solid sun]

What should I take in my vault

[tribal wharf]

fury scam

[outer willow]

What

[tribal wharf]

no 1h

[toxic pewter]

prot only way to get 1h weapon these days

[tribal wharf]

go prot if need 1h

they nerfd fury vault for prot

[long stone]

if you did t11 delves you get hero loot in vault -> catalyst the armor to get Hero tier piece

[tribal wharf]

im going to get 8 shields

now that i crafted one

[undone beacon]

I'm waiting to open my vault until others do in case theres some fuckery

[outer willow]

Oh I thought you got a free catalyst charge for doing t11 I was like excuse me

[long stone]

naaa catalyst is still at 1 i think

[outer willow]

Wise. I recall something weird happening in TWW

[tribal wharf]

ya no, we cant get in for 10 more minutes

reliably at least

[solid sun]

Pash is wise

[undone beacon]

1 free charge, 1 earnable charge from pvp/aotc/ksm

[solid sun]

Best to let others bug test vaults

[undone beacon]

next week is another free charge

[undone beacon]

[cold pilot]

ez pickins

[outer willow]

Omg

[long stone]

tusk :D?

[outer willow]

That neck

That ring

My back

[undone beacon]

Here they come boys, the vault posting

[toxic pewter]

take the hero trinket yolo

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongy-bobby-gif-22257305

[charred shard]

Is trinket better choice than set? (real question)

[outer willow]

No way right? Trinket??

[lusty grotto]

real answer sim

[undone beacon]

The wise thing to do is hold vault until you clear raid

[lusty grotto]

it starts

[long stone]

this

[toxic pewter]

wat u guys think

[outer willow]

If we’re only doing LFR, doesn’t matter right?

[undone beacon]

i mean, still does. If you get tier from lfr you may not need to take it in vault

[long stone]

u can get Hero drop from delves again this week - so you can get a Hero pieces too. which can be a tier set maybe. so just Hold - collect your possible drops and easy

[undone beacon]

you cant get a tier piece as a drop in delves just fyi

[outer willow]

Damn. True.

[undone beacon]

you can get something to cata though

[long stone]

dude . i mean u get a hero pieces and cata it like i said before 😄

[undone beacon]

Gotta remember there are lurkers in chat who don't read full context

So it is important to clarify

[long stone]

collect the coins !!

[toxic pewter]

[toxic gyro]

Take socket

[long stone]

!

[solid sun]

I’m so happy

All the vault posts

I’ve missed this

[undone beacon]

nature is healing

[tribal wharf]

if there is big dumb trinket

thats what im getttin

[long stone]

big trump trinket?

[lusty grotto]

i havent

[long stone]

ahh it the same

[lusty grotto]

well thats a big true

but also dont go politcal here, its against the rules

[lofty warren]

Why archon m+ tier list not updated yet

[long stone]

i dont know what ya mean *cough *

back 2 vault post !

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

[tribal wharf]

ignore purple

vet

those 3 are champ

[undone beacon]

wowzers

[lofty warren]

When stuff comes back up is this the correct checklist for gearing?

• get weekly shard quest
• world boss
• dwelve 8 with map
• vault
• pray 1x mythic for free heroic
• continue with spam raid/m+ for rest of gear

[lusty grotto]

you pick tier

[long stone]

vault is last

[tribal wharf]

does have champ shield, but i craft shield anyway

[lofty warren]

If i recall sometimes its better to wait to open vault for some time

[long stone]

raid is before vaultr

[lusty grotto]

he doesnt raid

keep up

[tribal wharf]

i am pretty casual

[long stone]

😤

[lofty warren]

Yea no thx I dont want to waist time in myth raid

[long stone]

no lfr?

[lusty grotto]

youre new, you dont know the regulars

[long stone]

i am not new - i am back 😄

[lusty grotto]

if you were back you would know who yogi is

[long stone]

i love nome thats all

[lusty grotto]

and pepega

and me

[outer willow]

Pauldrons

[tribal wharf]

i'll claim those in like 10 minutes

[lofty warren]

Any there any "free" pieces of heroic/mythic gear not listed in this message? #protection message

[undone beacon]

nome retired

[tribal wharf]

i would love to raid if i could learn how to do sim dps on training dummy

[outer willow]

The season start is here. It’s time. Who will be KSM by tonight

[tribal wharf]

and then do it on boss

as a dps

[narrow prawn]

talk about shit loot

[tribal wharf]

but they completely gutted how rogue plays for me

i mean, sub is really hard to play anyways, always has b e

[undone beacon]

F

Actually maybe a socket vault

[ivory barn]

kekw no tier

[narrow prawn]

I'm actually considering that, but i'm gonna sim

yeah that will take fucking forever

[undone beacon]

remember that hero gear is farmable, sockets are not

[tribal wharf]

i thought that said 1081

no, 16 81

[toxic pewter]

would you guys rather take champion tier helm or hero 1h weapon

[undone beacon]

tier

[narrow prawn]

tier

[outer willow]

Tear 🥲

[toxic pewter]

i guess ill run raid first make sure i dont loot tier helm

but ok thx

[wary gyro]

Hero weapons are farmable now with m+ tier isnt

[sleek mulch]

hero tier is same piece i have of vet thats giving 2 set, trinket sims really well, champ tier would allow me early 4 set. tough one

[narrow prawn]

they are

but honestly, i would rather craft a myth weapon

easier and better imo

[tribal wharf]

monk vault could be okay

but paladin is trash

[narrow prawn]

same for shield(unless you plan on killing myth voidspire first boss)

[coral quartz]

can anyone help me with a macro? I was wanting a macro that would use a healthstone if available and if it wasnt then a silvermoon healing pot

[lusty grotto]

use https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/auto-potion

instead of that macro

it'll create a macro with your choices

otherwise you're gonna have to maintain the macro

[outer willow]

Wow. Nice

[narrow prawn]

that seems so not worth lol, i think i'm gonna grab the socket

[toxic pewter]

anyone know how i can get a veteren necklace fast

[undone beacon]

craft one

[lusty grotto]

???

renown

[narrow prawn]

^

[toxic pewter]

oh right

[lusty grotto]

atal dazar

[wary gyro]

Amani renown

[toxic pewter]

the renown one

[undone beacon]

or get the champ one from renown yeah

[toxic pewter]

i messed up a thing

ok thx

[undone beacon]

WRONG atal'dazar was bfa nerd

[sleek mulch]

what would yall do hero trinket thats simming well or take the champ tier, i feel like the answer is tier i just want to hear it lmao

[toxic pewter]

well i wanted to upgrade a vet neck to 6/6

[tribal wharf]

fatal dazar

[narrow prawn]

it's done

[tribal wharf]

cuz someones gunna die

[undone beacon]

Do raid first and see what you get

[undone beacon]

huge silvermoon splendor tho

[narrow prawn]

[daring marlin]

DK got tier from delves

lmfao

[undone beacon]

gamer

[tribal wharf]

time for morshu

maybe he will find stupid trinket

eh, monk is okay

[lusty grotto]

stupid nerd dragon

[daring marlin]

WARLOCK GOT TIER AS WELL

[tribal wharf]

clearly though

[daring marlin]

WHAT IS THIS

4pc this week for sure

[tribal wharf]

ugh, veteran trinket

thats not gunna work out too long