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tribal wharf
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only healer doesnt iirc

coarse bay
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Healer’s have their own simming tool

opal ledge
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fun tips:
make dungeons with elixir of giant growth if ur not using a flask

paper coral
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I did not realize Prot did that much damage, from looking at the logs. Hows their ST?

coarse bay
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Middle of the pack

paper coral
coarse bay
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I believe so

rugged spire
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Did u guys craft 272 sword and shield or saved your hero crests?

coarse bay
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But it isnt as severe as it was

coarse bay
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And if you plan on doing any mythic raid, first boss drops a shield

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So i wont be crafting one

paper coral
coarse bay
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Not sure what it’s numbers are, but i dont think tanks are that out of line anymore

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Could be wrong though

steady tinsel
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What trinks are the best to use? I have crucible, veteran heart of ancient hunger, champion vessel of tortured souls

lusty grotto
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sim

versed snow
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the ultradon cuirass is pretty neat

coarse bay
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What’s that

lusty grotto
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the delve trinket

coarse bay
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Oh

lusty grotto
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its not that good long cd

coarse bay
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Idrc about trinkets rn tbh

lusty grotto
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full absorb, not partial and long ass cd

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pretty mid

versed snow
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Yeah, I think at herioic its a near 500k absorb

steady tinsel
# lusty grotto sim

1 target 5 min patchwerk + 6-10 target 1 min patchwerk? Or what sims are recommended

versed snow
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Being squishy early on before gear its nice

coarse bay
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If u need 500k absorb to live

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Youre dead

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As pwar

lusty grotto
versed snow
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It's a minute long of extra mitigation essentially

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Obviously to be replaced by the better trinkets, but it's been fun so far

coarse bay
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As long as you enjoy it, its bis

lusty grotto
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i wouldn't say a purely defensive mid trinket is "fun"

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but hey thats subjective

versed snow
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To each their own, pulling and not seeing HP move is pretty fun

lusty grotto
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we do that already

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without it

versed snow
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Zero movement, AFK status

lusty grotto
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afking in a game is fun ?

versed snow
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Not here to prove what I find fun is you kind of fun

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Saying its a neat trinket not taking 500k damage over 1 minute

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Mid for sure, but fun

lusty grotto
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its not for 1 min

versed snow
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It's for 1 minute yes

lusty grotto
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the shield fades fairly fast, its a full absorb

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it takes the full brunt of damage

versed snow
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Has that been tested?

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Feel like it is effected by mitigation ie shield wall

lusty grotto
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ok then you are actually playing

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if thats the case then yes

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it goes after mit and block

versed snow
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Yeah so stretches quite far, again a neat trinket

paper coral
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this is interesting. im sure it needs work, and no guardian druid.

lusty grotto
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doesnt matter

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BDK is still gonna be picked for raid, cause grip is needed

paper coral
coarse bay
lusty grotto
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max puts those up for chat votes

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but it does not mean they are gonna use them

coarse bay
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Do you still think bdk req nim?

lusty grotto
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yes

coarse bay
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I was hoping the dragon change would make it not so

lusty grotto
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not on dragon

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on cosmos

coarse bay
ornate palm
lusty grotto
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uhh you missed some key context

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krieger was talking about BDK, so my reply was about them

paper coral
ornate palm
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Nah, I got ya.

paper coral
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Thats also talking about the highest level. theres gonna be plenty of raids that run warriors and plenty that dont use DKs

lusty grotto
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💯

coarse bay
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Is it for the little adds to debuff the big guys or is there something more?

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Im not super familiar with crown yet

lusty grotto
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its just speculation

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there's a lot on myth that we dont know

coarse bay
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Very true

ornate palm
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Honestly though, pwarr is life

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I can’t explain it, even after playing all the tanks. There is nothing quite as satisfying as heroic leaping down and smashing bros with your shield.

ornate palm
frank bobcat
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Finally throwing in the towel on H crown week 1! Had some awesome pulls & finally figured out the tank swaps, but spent 2:30 hours in queue last night, only managed to join 1 group in that time!

Still had an amazing time this week, first time ever pushing this high into heroic this early in pugs🤯 🤯 🤯

lusty grotto
polar atlas
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I got a stupid question

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How come the Tier S trinket I got is doing worse than Latch Hook

frank bobcat
lusty grotto
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well at least it helped

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just go for guides before tank povs

polar atlas
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It's my prot warrior

lusty grotto
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interestingly it says Arms Warrior

polar atlas
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oh weird let me double check rq

lusty grotto
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whats the s tier trinket

polar atlas
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let me fix that

lusty grotto
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none of those are s-tier lmao

polar atlas
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Lighjt

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I got the Light Company

lusty grotto
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we dont support wowhead

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anymore

polar atlas
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What site do we use?

lusty grotto
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but...

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icy-veins for prot

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wowhead is fine for fury and arms though since Archi maintains it

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that being said

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haste falls into defensive simming area after a certain point

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so just use it i guess, and ignore sims

round pendant
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I thought Pumps was fine at the game

lusty grotto
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hes a good player

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but its difficult to keep up with discords

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and hes maintaining like 5 different guides

polar atlas
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I just wanna do MAx damage for prot

lusty grotto
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his recommendations dont align with ours for the time being

tribal wharf
lusty grotto
polar atlas
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yea I want MAX max

drowsy comet
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God damn they really kill this bear deadge

drowsy comet
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i cant help myself but that fits so well

daring marlin
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damn that's crazy

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imagine getting kicked from a heroic dreamrift cuz you pull threat and facetank the big add

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for a good 6 seconds

undone beacon
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Don’t do that then 4head smh

daring marlin
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the leader whispered and told me I could stay

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is he stupid?

undone beacon
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Yes

tribal wharf
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they think we cant see the bombs lol

daring marlin
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that boss is gonna be the worst I think

tribal wharf
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not overly

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its just, blow up as many as possible, put on a defensive and then soak

undone beacon
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Yeah Saprish is gonna fucking suck, at least for the first week before people figure it out

tribal wharf
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put a marker on the bird

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and having a ranged class helps

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hunter mage

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as they just counterspell from range instantly

daring marlin
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sir the bird won't be the problem

tribal wharf
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the way it put it in chat is "kick bird when it does white circle, ring the bombs, have to get hit or die slowly"

winged oar
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judgement on paladins fight can be spell reflected?

undone beacon
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Dude the bear nerfs were announced 20 mins ago and the discord is on fucking fire keks

pastel mural
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Hey folks. How can I track my Shield Block uptime better. Constantly looking at my buff list isn't practical. And the CDM just telling me when I can hit it again.

undone beacon
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Not just when you can hit it, but an actual timer bar for its duration

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It’s the little lightning bolt icon in the base UI, should be called like “Buffs” or “Auras” or something

winged oar
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yeah CDM lets you track it like this

tribal wharf
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i think i do more dps on my ww monk than fury

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i guess i had raid buffs, but

torn gulch
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is delver journey capped at level 4?

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or am i tripping

coarse bay
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I just checked, still no mage buffs

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Sad world to be in

daring marlin
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no prot pally changes

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hell yeah dude

undone beacon
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Anytme they dont buff shadow priest i am sadgers

toxic pewter
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prot pala is the #1 spec in solo shuffle right nnow

daring marlin
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prot pally owns

toxic pewter
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prot pala is runningg rampant

daring marlin
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DROP THE HAMMER BABY

undone beacon
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thats cuz pvp is fake content that blizz doesnt care about peepo

daring marlin
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ALL THE SHIELDS TOO

toxic pewter
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lol

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u know the 3 paladin boss fight

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i tried to shattering throw the divine shield

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it did not work

daring marlin
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op

winged oar
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I tried that too

daring marlin
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buff warrior

undone beacon
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You can mass dispel the divine shield

winged oar
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lmao

toxic pewter
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so i figured why not me

undone beacon
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As our only priest it is my most important job all raid

daring marlin
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shattering should work tho lol

toxic pewter
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im gonna submit a bug report

undone beacon
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When are we running a 3s team as The Lightblind Vanguard and just stealing the names and mogs of the bosses

toxic pewter
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ill double check it but I swear i sent it and it said immune

undone beacon
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I can be Senn if I have to

toxic pewter
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lol ngl that squad is sick

winged oar
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what is spell reflectable on that fight tho

undone beacon
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Triple pally 3s sounds disgustingly annoying to fight

winged oar
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the judgement?

undone beacon
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SR reduces judgement damage but isnt a full reflect iirc

toxic pewter
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I swear I spell reflected or deflected judgment by accident I think it may be

winged oar
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top logs on that fight have insane SR damage

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lol

toxic pewter
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i know i reflected or deflected something

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yeah damn if it is judgment thats actually awesome

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can cover for when other tank doesnt taunt

undone beacon
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I mean theres a way in logs to see if thats what it is

toxic pewter
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apparently spell reflection was 5ish% of my dam on that fight but i was hitting it not even realizing i could reflect anything

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so def something is im not surre how to see what it is though

undone beacon
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Looks like the damage may be reflectable yeah

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Its not updated on Maxroll but the logs seem to line up

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neat

winged oar
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yeah and the target of the SR lines up too

shut summit
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its exorcism and shield of the righteous

undone beacon
winged oar
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thats crazy

desert moss
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Hey all, could not find a pin for that, so going to ask.
I am not new to the game at all but sometimes I ofc. Go to clarify or check for updates on best performing gear, builds etc, I usually check up with wowhead guides but sometimes get bullied for that, with smth like- Go icyVeins or Murlok Io.
I am aware that for some specs Icy is doing a bad job but wanted to ask you, what do you think the best source of info for port warr specifically

ornate palm
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Icy veins all day.

undone beacon
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Icyveins is preferred for Prot Warriors currently.

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Our guide writer for wowhead stepped down and the information there isnt updated often, and murlok.io is a data aggregation site, not a guide

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Icyveins and this Discord are maintained by active prot warriors. You'll find the most accurate information there

desert moss
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Thank you very much colleagues for shining the light on that matter

undone beacon
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Well yes, but M+ is not PvP and the things top M+ tanks do is notably different than the masses, so using it as a guide for you character is generally not recommended

ornate palm
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I’m gonna drop this here out of legit curiosity: how much stock do you put into tank parses? Or is this too easy a question?

torn gulch
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not very much

desert moss
ornate palm
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Correct.

torn gulch
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yea tank parses do not matter much

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some data in it does

winged oar
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they matter to ME 😠

lusty grotto
ornate palm
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For instance, you’re not dying, you don’t need constant healer attention, tank mechanics/taunt swaps/positioning is all legit.

mystic vale
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does that mean i shouldnt care if the brewmaster co-tank in my raid is parsing higher and doing more damage

coarse bay
lusty grotto
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you should care, if youre losing threat

ornate palm
lusty grotto
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if youre losing threat, you should aim to parse higher

coarse bay
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If i see a low tank parse, it will make me look deeper

lusty grotto
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instead of making the poor other tank hold their shit

undone beacon
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If you have threat, aren't ripping, and are doing mechanics correctly, it doesn't really matter. Tank damage parse is gravy but if you're doing high parse at the cost of ripping off your co tank all the time, or cant hold aggro yourself, thats more important

lusty grotto
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pretty much

desert moss
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If we are talking raids- I wouldn’t put much, tho you as a tank contribute damage to the team, ur focus is on mechanics and positioning, if the thing is dead u did a good job.

As for M+ parse they just help u track how much better u did than others of ur spec, but remember if u don’t log the damage it self m+ parses read the key lvl u completed+ how fast u did it. So it just lets u know where u stand within the prot ranking so to say

coarse bay
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Oh and fwiw, dps parses hold the same value. Parse isnt the best metric, just the only one readily available

lusty grotto
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as long as youre keeping SB uptime, you shold be fine - and other obvious stuff that we can point out in here

coarse bay
lament osprey
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My wish of bear nerf has come true.

ornate palm
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Good deal. I just wanted some input on the matter. I have no complaints, just personal goals.

desert moss
coarse bay
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Unless youre comparing against the same comp, route, gear etc. a m+ parse doesnt provide good info

ornate palm
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I was talking about raid parses specifically.

coarse bay
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Ya i mean parses are fun but also whatever

desert moss
coarse bay
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An outlier in the lower end of the spectrum is usually a sign of a problem in gameplay

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But not always

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Parsing as dps is half the fun imo

undone beacon
undone beacon
lament osprey
undone beacon
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But lowkey was inting running misery in raid whoops

undone beacon
coarse bay
ornate palm
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Again, aggro good, mechanics good, sb uptime good, not dying good. Apparently at this point I just need to send every single cooldown all of the time.

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To get my parses up.

lusty grotto
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i mean

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share logs

lament osprey
lusty grotto
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we do review them

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but also this week is not really a good week to put much importance to parses

coarse bay
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U can also share as anonymous if shy and there wont be shaming

lusty grotto
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when RWF has 4pc and gear sooner than the rest, they skew the parse amounts

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splits speed up gearing CONSIDERABLY

ornate palm
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I know, I’m gonna take advantage of y’all’s expertise at some point in the near future.

lusty grotto
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and so does fight experience

undone beacon
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Yeah we love to look at logs and then call you names (like cutiepie or sweetheart)

lusty grotto
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if you do 20 splits, you know the fights extremely well very early

ornate palm
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I’m just thinking that logs right now might be a bit…premature.

lusty grotto
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you can compete but the odds are against you

undone beacon
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Yeah, as Nim is saying

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You're up against RWF split nerds

ornate palm
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Nah, I’ll put my name on it.

undone beacon
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Also Nim they fixed the catalyst thing for alts and I'm pissy because my rat hunter has 4set

lusty grotto
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i hate you

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this is all your fault

ornate palm
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Shame away. I’ve been a tank a long time, you don’t think I’ve already heard the worst shit imaginable in pugs?

undone beacon
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We only shame if you're being a flaming rude ass dipshit peepo

coarse bay
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Nah this isnt the place

lusty grotto
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yeah we dont flame

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and ill eat anyone that does

ornate palm
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❤️

lusty grotto
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unless, what Pash said

undone beacon
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Eating dpsdmg would give you a disease

coarse bay
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Any class discord that shames should be shamed

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Goes against the whole point

lusty grotto
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that guy put me on block faster than me going for cheese

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
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i couldnt even get mavis beacon turbo typing in

undone beacon
lusty grotto
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i hate you pash

undone beacon
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it makes it so cata charges can drop on that character

toxic pewter
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ddamn lol

undone beacon
lusty grotto
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how could you make John Blizzard do this

ornate palm
toxic pewter
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wait so it drops for ur hunter?

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lol wat

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i thought it was meant to help alts or something

undone beacon
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Yee because i got 4set i can farm cata charges on the hunter

toxic pewter
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??????

undone beacon
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Nah its designed to stop the whole "I have to hold all my charges until I have hero/myth pieces"

lusty grotto
toxic pewter
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I see ok

undone beacon
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So it doesnt feel like shit if you cata a champ piece and then get a hero piece in a dungeon, or so you dont have to wait to get your tier bonuses

ornate palm
undone beacon
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Its not a bad idea tbh, just annoying to me right now because im unlucky

lusty grotto
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well in that case its ok

undone beacon
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I mean, if they knew they knew

coarse bay
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I remember doing that myself in my youth

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Good times

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The guild leader of the deadly penguin squad was always hitting the bong between pulls

ornate palm
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I just wanted to get the reps in so when I do guild runs, I can just stroll in swinging that big confidence around.

undone beacon
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I need to join some pugs like that on my priest just to practice

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I know once I have tier it'll help me a lot but

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Its been a while since I've swapped specs for a tier

ornate palm
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Who do I complain to at blizz to make my rolls better?

undone beacon
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there are goats to sacrifice to rngsus

coarse bay
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Went back to studying logs etc

undone beacon
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I'm so used to tanking and just locking in on making sure I tank well and hold aggro etc etc that being dps is throwing me off

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Also in raid Shadow runs the talent that makes it so Shadow Word Pain deals 150% increased damage, but you have to give up the "Vampiric Touch applies SWP" talent and that messed me up a bit

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Misery my beloved

ornate palm
undone beacon
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I was our mythic prog tank and RL for the last two seasons, I needed a break before I bashed my skull open with a rock

ornate palm
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DPS? Does that stand for Double Protection Spec?

coarse bay
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Its one of the few specs that retained some complexity

solid sun
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Well

coarse bay
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And has always kinda sucked lmao

solid sun
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I try to do damage and then everyone else laps me

undone beacon
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I mean honestly its pretty fun outside of mind flay spam but, yeah them gutting Psychic Link right before the raid without any real ST fights sucks ass

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#removePsychicLink

coarse bay
ornate palm
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Real talk, I’ve never met a shadow priest who wasn’t, how should I say, a fringe human being.

solid sun
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Woah

undone beacon
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Fringe in what way

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I will confirm or deny

solid sun
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Pash is hot and awesome

coarse bay
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And cute and smart

undone beacon
ornate palm
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Some good, some bad, but they have all been a bit out there personality wise.

coarse bay
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Siege of boralas s1 tww final boss made my gf reroll from spriest main

coarse bay
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In 12s the dot was killing her in 2 ticks

undone beacon
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Miserable

ornate palm
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Again, I should clarify that it goes both ways. Sometimes it rolls to the awesome/interesting person side. But there have been some…

coarse bay
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Lmao

vivid orchid
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..I totally blocked out siege was s1

undone beacon
lusty grotto
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cant have siege without bolstering

coarse bay
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Tanking siege wasnt bad minus banana section

lusty grotto
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im sorry (not sorry)

undone beacon
lusty grotto
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but also tbf, it was a small improvement to the og one

warm plinth
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OG bolstering though

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not new bolstering

lusty grotto
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yup

undone beacon
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Bring back Skittish #iloveskittish

vivid orchid
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Perma giga boss trash

undone beacon
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Skittish Teeming Bolstering

warm plinth
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OG raging was fun too but not as fun as bolstering

vivid orchid
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Who hurt you

warm plinth
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w/ the spotter

lusty grotto
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ok you need to calm down Pash

dusky sentinel
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#bringbacknecroticbanner!

sharp gale
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Necrotic critcake

solid sun
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Why do I remember explosive orbs spawning everywhere during siege final boss at one point

lusty grotto
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you already gave ideas to Blizz about my lovely alts not getting catalyst charges

warm plinth
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Skittish kinda w/e. Never felt like that was a meaningful affix

coarse bay
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Man u guys dont make me miss affixes

vivid orchid
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They did spawn ecerywhere

warm plinth
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Because they did spawn everywhere on siege final boss, including underwater

solid sun
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I remember it being awesome

warm plinth
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though most of the spawns were ignorable

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since they were out of los

sharp gale
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My gnome swim in the fountain of 3rd boss

undone beacon
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Remember in TWW when the xalatath CC orb affix would spawn in narnia during Viq'goth and then you just wiped peepo

vivid orchid
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Yep

tribal wharf
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pretty bad dps lol

undone beacon
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That was pretty epic

solid sun
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Ghash what’s your favorite affix of all time

lusty grotto
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does anyone know if the protocols are warbound?

tribal wharf
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im doing something horribly wrong as fury, should look into that

lusty grotto
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for crucible?

undone beacon
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Sorry to once again dissapoint you Nim

lusty grotto
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i swear to christ my alts trinkets say all 3, but their research isnt up there

sharp gale
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And you have to do the world tour event for the free spark on every alts

undone beacon
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It says all three to tell you that you can do those things

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Not that they are unlocked

dusky sentinel
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Think we all can agree that all the affixes that could ruin ur run on the final boss sucked arse.

undone beacon
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Because blizzard and tooltips

ivory barn
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Clapping cheeks starts tomorrow LETSGOOO

lusty grotto
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fucking blizzard, get your shit together with warbound stuff

ivory barn
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Hit 250 in prot and fury lol

pastel sleet
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when do we swap on heroic dragons

undone beacon
tribal wharf
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my dps wasnt even close to sim

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like half

undone beacon
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skill issue

tribal wharf
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true

proud dock
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does defensive stance also work on bleeds?

sharp gale
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Half is problematic

pastel sleet
lusty grotto
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its DR

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so yes

tribal wharf
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i have no idea how to play fury

lusty grotto
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DR works on everything

proud dock
undone beacon
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Yeee any % DR works on all damage

proud dock
tribal wharf
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i could just go in the channel

warm plinth
undone beacon
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Seasonal isnt cheating

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Whats ur favorite

warm plinth
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Volcanic feels kinda like cheating to say though because I almost exclusively played melee when the old style affixes existed

sharp gale
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Worst affix was the ghuun one

undone beacon
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I liked Cryptic because the robots had funny names and I liked the big CDR peepo

warm plinth
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Favorite seasonal is probably Encrypted, but Awakened is a very close second.

mighty valley
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quaking was always totally reasonable EXCEPT they’d forget one boss per season that vacuums the squad together

dusky sentinel
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Grievous. Halls of atonement. disc priest as healer. The ultimate affix

warm plinth
tribal wharf
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grevious is i log out week

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worst

warm plinth
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I felt like that punished casters twice

undone beacon
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What about Eternus's Trial: Twilight Reflections

mighty valley
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what’s casting

undone beacon
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that was an affix

sharp gale
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My fav seasonal affix is nzoth and bwomsamdi

lusty grotto
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happy

coarse bay
warm plinth
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ALl the Legion Remix affixes were whatever as they didn't matter

sharp gale
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It’s me

undone beacon
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Y'all remember Tormented

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That was an affix

dusky sentinel
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Was that the void realm thingie?

undone beacon
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Nah that was SL s2, anima powers

daring marlin
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all bear druids are window lickers

lusty grotto
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i misread happy, you good

dusky sentinel
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where u could skip sections

daring marlin
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ALL OF THEM

lusty grotto
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shut the fuck up all of them

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INFESTED IS BANNED

solid sun
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My favorite affix was the one where you’d enter the portal and skip tons of bullcrap and then kill the bad guy and exit the portal

mighty valley
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Tormented was aight, we had cute nicknames for all the mini bosses

undone beacon
sharp gale
#

Infested was 100% the worst

dusky sentinel
#

That was king

tribal wharf
undone beacon
#

I 100% repressed Prideful

#

Fuck prideful

tribal wharf
#

in theory this one was fun

#

top 3 worst ever

#

these are war crime

solid sun
#

What was the affix where the tank had to run away because they’d stop getting healing

#

Necrotic

#

That was the best non seasonal affix :)

tribal wharf
#

yes, but that was skill issue one

#

cuz the debuff was short

dusky sentinel
#

I never had a problem with Sanguine tbh

tribal wharf
#

fuck sanguine

#

never again

warm plinth
#

Awakened - kill lieutenants to skip shit
Infested - Easily the worst seasonal; summoned g'huunies
Reaping - mobs spawn at every 20% forces; a lot of people's favorite but only because aoe was largely uncapped then
Beguiling - Emissary affix
Prideful - Fuck prideful, also one of the worst
Tormented - kill lieutenants for anima powers
Encrypted - Kill automaton dudes to gain powers based first one killed (aka the gogofastasfuckboi affix)
Shrouded - lame damage boost (main stat I think?) for killing specific enemies

tribal wharf
#

if they put it back , im not playing it

warm plinth
#

I think that was all of the seasonals

daring marlin
#

Awakened is the undisputed goat affix

warm plinth
#

Oh I forgot the raszageth one

#

Thundering

opal ledge
#

Vile Lasher

Addressed an issue where Vile Bite’s bleed effect was not ignoring armor.

oh no

tribal wharf
#

reaping is good

daring marlin
#

reaping was trash

#

just like prideful

warm plinth
#

Reaping was overrated. People only liked it because they could pad.

tribal wharf
#

no way, reaping was amazing

warm plinth
#

And anyone doing serious keys just skipped the affix

tribal wharf
#

long as its one im thiking of

undone beacon
#

oh my god

solid sun
#

Hacker

tribal wharf
#

adds every 20% and puts purple and teal circles on the ground

tribal wharf
#

bfa

warm plinth
daring marlin
#

you know why reaping was trash? people did what they could to avoid it

tribal wharf
#

it was fun

warm plinth
#

Necrotic started at like 10 or 12 seconds long. They dropped it all the way to like 6 at the end and it still sucked

daring marlin
#

doing the last boss at like 99% count then killing a single add to finish

#

same as prideful

#

trash affix

tribal wharf
#

all i know is on my monk

#

i was doing like 37k dps

warm plinth
#

It's better than prideful only because prideful scaling should not have been endless.

tribal wharf
#

which is more than 27k on warrior

warm plinth
#

It was fucking stupid to die to an affix mob that was harder than the dungeon bosses

tribal wharf
#

so,

warm plinth
#

Or dying to the boss because you had to blow your cds on the prideful (e.g. first boss mists)

solid sun
#

Didn’t people start shadowmelding or whatever them

warm plinth
#

Yeah

#

And finishing trash after the final boss to avoid a spawn

tribal wharf
#

list of all affixes

#

quaking sucks

sick sentinel
#

Any suggestion for boss frames addon?

Just really need it to be "boxy" and readable for quick taunts when tanking instead of the default

coarse bay
lusty grotto
#

i dont think there are any besides full elvui profiles

#

or rather full unit frame addons

sick sentinel
coarse bay
#

The way u change party frames to that is by clicking it in the edit screen there

#

If theres an option itll be there

sick sentinel
coarse bay
#

Not settings

#

In edit mode

#

In that ss

#

Click the boss frames and look through the options

sick sentinel
#

Best I got is this

coarse bay
#

Hows larger frame look

sick sentinel
#

Not great haha

#

same picture I shared before

coarse bay
#

Ya then you’ll need a frame addon like nim said

#

Danders frames is popular but idk how much of a toll it takes

ornate palm
#

I’m waiting on Danders to do it.

coarse bay
#

Oh it isnt in danders

#

Well

ornate palm
#

Haven’t had a chance to mess with it yet.

coarse bay
#

I tried danders for a single raid encounter and got rid of it

sick sentinel
#

I just need boss frames now, my UI is looking fine for the rest

ornate palm
coarse bay
#

Ai slop Pepexecute

sick sentinel
#

Yeah but need AOTC today

coarse bay
ornate palm
#

For me, it makes seeing the stacks for boss debuffs on co-tank super easy.

coarse bay
sick sentinel
#

I looked in BigWigs does not offer that, would be nice

ornate palm
#

And once I figure out how to use Intervene like a pro, it will be gravy.

lusty grotto
cerulean tusk
#

AotC isnt out yet tho, as the final raid of the season aint out?

coarse bay
#

Aotc today is high hof

undone beacon
#

Theres an AotC for each raid

lusty grotto
#

meanwhile ill just get it in 2 weeks cause vacation time on wednesday

coarse bay
undone beacon
#

Same with CE

sick sentinel
#

well default frames will have to do it then, thanks guys

cerulean tusk
#

k

undone beacon
#

bro the k

#

disrespected

undone beacon
coarse bay
#

Idk so few people have downed it, and a lot of them did splits. We did a few pulls and called it lmao

cerulean tusk
#

Does this mean I am AoTC for killing that bird thing?

coarse bay
#

We arent them

cerulean tusk
#

Nice

undone beacon
#

Turns out dragging 30 people through H dragons is hell

coarse bay
#

That too

#

30 man raids is an affix

undone beacon
#

If we didn't have 30 people we prob coulda made it

daring marlin
#

DRUID TANKS

#

ARE WINDOW LICKERS

undone beacon
coarse bay
#

30 man makes these fights so much harder

ornate palm
daring marlin
#

The BDK left me and the other group in heroic dreamrift

#

with the bear

#

and I got melee'd by the colossus three times in a row

#

three different pulls

undone beacon
#

There’s a lot of bear tourists right now but they’ll all dip tomorrow don’t worry

daring marlin
#

there is ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAUNTED IN THERE LOL

coarse bay
#

Im ngl

#

Bear is the one tank

#

I have 0 interest in raid tanking on

daring marlin
#

I did it once in cata

#

that was all

coarse bay
#

I remember a cool bear in EN

daring marlin
#

first tier cata was crazy

coarse bay
#

And i was like wow i wanna be him

#

But i never tried to become him

daring marlin
#

mangle spam as bear was lmfao

undone beacon
#

DotC bear tank last season was kinda fun ngl

#

Legit catweaving was neat

#

Too bad that’s turbo dead

coarse bay
#

No it isnt

#

U go cat and hotw

#

Isnt that enough

#

Is dotc dead dead now

#

Is it EC

tribal wharf
#

no wrecklessness on bars

#

that could be a factor

undone beacon
#

EC is looking like it’s gonna pull ahead in all content now yeah

solid sun
#

See I’m not asking Pash to carry me rn while it sucks

#

I’ll ask Pash to carry for aotc when I am tough and strong and they don’t have 30 people

tribal wharf
#

that, and i need to track rend

#

or i will let it fall of even that i know its on for 15 seconds

coarse bay
solid sun
#

It’s not a sprint

#

It’s a marathon

coarse bay
#

Next week a lot more people will be able to do it and i think 2 weeks will be puggable

#

Myth wep is a massive bump

solid sun
#

How many

lusty grotto
#

but then im off to desert land

lusty grotto
solid sun
#

That’s a good amount

coarse bay
#

I was also planning to do that many

daring marlin
#

I'll be doing keys too

solid sun
#

Nimchip did you forget to check your DMs

daring marlin
#

around 9pm EST

lusty grotto
#

no i checked them, i just dont know why youre playing thane

solid sun
#

Because brew said it was ok

#

Cause so many adds

nova gorge
#

getting a heroic crown kill with a pug week 1 is fun.. lol

lusty grotto
#

thane on crown monkahmm

nova gorge
coarse bay
solid sun
#

There are like so many adds

coarse bay
#

The adds are for me to pad on, not you

solid sun
#

No me

coarse bay
#

My mage loses no ST to pad

nova gorge
#

Still could only get a 50 parse, I guess with only 86 other kills I can't be that upset.

coarse bay
#

I GAIN st for padding

#

So hah

lusty grotto
#

meanwhile Guilford the ret pally blasts your adds down and your thane dps is gone 🙂

tardy juniper
#

just strapped my shield on ready for some mythic+ on wed.

I could have sworn shield block was mega easy to keep 100% uptime on last season

Finding I am gettign gaps where I don't have it up

is this right...did something change?

solid sun
#

You think Guilford would be caught dead in my raid?

lusty grotto
#

swap to HR

#

you go ITF at 1188 haste rating, otherwise you HR

#

same as it is in every single expansion first season

undone beacon
#

Guys guys new copypasta from bear discord please tell me how it ranks

tardy juniper
#

Ah ok that makes sense...

Whats HR sorry

undone beacon
#

Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.

lusty grotto
#

lmao

nova gorge
#

Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.

undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

thats a good copy pasta

tardy juniper
#

ok bud thank you so much

torn gulch
#

Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.

solid sun
#

Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.

ornate palm
lusty grotto
#

we dont have full gearing options atm

#

and upgrades will be limited by crest caps

#

so its a marathon not a sprint

lusty grotto
#

still apply ilvl > all or sim haste pieces

ornate palm
#

Copy. I do feel silly targeting M0’s and just replacing champ gear with champ gear because it has haste on it instead of mastery. But them’s the breaks until M+.

tribal wharf
#

okay, my dps is, better

#

not totally fixed

#

still i was seeing they want 60k dps i guess, maybe thats for heroic

coarse bay
#

my body is a machine that turns 20 :arcanesalvo: into :arcanebarrage:
i am a vessel that uses :arcaneorb: after :arcanebarrage:
after i do :arcaneblast: or if i hate myself, :impetus:
this is all i am
Praise be the teachings of porom sama

#

Oh heck

#

No emotes

#

Failed

undone beacon
#

Failed

tribal wharf
#

just re-roll frost

#

it does way more dmg

#

safe your self the braincells

coarse bay
undone beacon
coarse bay
#

I did rewatch the vod and i technically couldve reacted within like MS with my alter time

tribal wharf
#

is arms still doomed even after buff

coarse bay
#

Probably gotta ask the arms people

ornate palm
#

All 2 of them sadly.

tribal wharf
#

the less i go into arms and fury channel the best i feel lol

mighty valley
coarse bay
#

Came here for Bear info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, dense blob thinking it is relevant damage

undone beacon
#

Came here for Bear info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, dense blob thinking it is relevant damage

daring marlin
tribal wharf
daring marlin
#

which is fair

tribal wharf
#

i got your bear info right here

#

hopefully i can hack it in some form

#

keystones look fun, im wondering what monsters are going to give us huge hell that we normally over look now

past summit
#

Interrupt question: I am having trouble targetting mobs for interrupt when there are more than 5 mobs in a pack. For instance, Magisters Terrace where there are packs of a few big mobs and a dozen smaller mobs. I am using Plater, but the nameplates are just a jumble when you get so many mobs.

I use a mouseover macro for targeting but it doesnt help much at cutting through the clutter. What do you guys do in crowded situations?

coarse bay
#

I found it pretty bad on player and platynator

#

Ive been using ellesmereui and his nameplates have been ok for me

past summit
#

I find that I am wasting my interrupts a lot on mistargets

#

what is different about ellesmerui?

tribal wharf
#

some of my plater profiles ar still workin start of combat

#

and turning caster bars teal until pulled

#

so it gives good idea of what to expect

past summit
#

my plater profile works, there are just too many mobs

coarse bay
#

Idk to be safe start clicking to dig through nameplates when its bad

#

Instead of mouseover for everything

#

Or focus macro an important cast and have a bind for regular kick and one for focus

#

Outside of those leave that to the team

past summit
#

well, the "team" is usualyl a pug, so I am usually the one to do it

coarse bay
#

Ya use a focus macro for kicks and know the important casts in each pull

#

Extremely good habit

#

And makes things easier

past summit
#

what do you do if there are many mobs that need focus?

coarse bay
#

U choose the most important

#

Like the terrors in magisters

past summit
#

they are in packs of 2

coarse bay
#

Whatever will wipe or kill

#

Choose one

#

Focus one, target the other

tribal wharf
#

remember name of monsters that cast bad things often comes in packs of 2 of them

coarse bay
#

Cc lock the one u dont kick or use the silencing throw thingy we have now

past summit
#

ok, I just wanted to make sure I was not the only one having problems

tribal wharf
#

make one of them target mouse over other

#

kick stun as needed

#

stun is they will diminishing return each stun, and they will just recast, but better than have abiility go off

sharp gale
#

i use my infamous random kick macro

glad magnet
#

same

sharp gale
#

but yeah the nameplate issue is in plater, base nameplates and platynator, when too many mobs they stack on each others

coarse bay
#

Like i said ive found ellesmere’s nameplates in his addon to actually handle it really well

#

But its a full ui addon and nameplates is only a part of it

#

Focus macro is simply the best option now no matter what, and always has been

sharp gale
#

fortunately the infamous macro has a focus macro in it

maiden plume
#

Quick question, if I have SS and TC out of CD, is it worth to press TC to proc apex talent? Or SS better for dmg either way? ( ST and AoE )

coarse bay
#

Dont play around the apex

#

Let it happen naturally

maiden plume
#

TY

ivory barn
#

So arms got a stealth buff Rampage

coarse bay
#

I dont think it was very stealthy

solid sun
#

lol

coarse bay
solid sun
#

"This was heavily announced"

#

STEALTH

#

I laughed

sharp gale
#

Arms doesn’t use stealth

solid sun
#

it was a blue post with just two specs getting changed right?

#

bear nerfs and arms buffs

#

That's like almost exclusive

sharp gale
#

And 4% buff on frost dk

lofty warren
#

NEW BALANCING?

tribal wharf
#

How many keys are going to be short timer 30 minutes is one like fatal dazar despite holds 4 boss

#

And I want to say 33 minutes too

#

Fatal dazar lol phone

lusty grotto
#

all of them

tribal wharf
#

I hate that the timers feel short, though there are changes

coarse bay
#

They want to stay around the 30 minute mark always now

lusty grotto
#

literally all timers this season are 30 mins

coarse bay
#

Its their stated goal

lusty grotto
#

just like last sesson

tribal wharf
#

Well changes for below 10 basically

solid sun
#

Timers feel longer when Cam is in them because you kill everything so fast you have like 20 minutes left on them

tribal wharf
#

I wasn't active in any sense since s3 df

lusty grotto
#

below 10s are easier because you get the mobs that take more damage but its the same timer

#

and no death penalty

tribal wharf
#

Tiny bit S1 tww

daring marlin
#

damn

lusty grotto
#

-15s is active past 12s

daring marlin
#

ok cool

kind talon
#

First they came for the Druids, and I did not speak up

lusty grotto
#

there's still the penalty of running back and dying with lust up and all that jazz like before Guilford

tribal wharf
#

Maybe for extreme baby key if you wipe to boss with just it removes it, 20m cd

chrome cipher
#

Is nallaeus tankable for my party?

coarse bay
#

Yes

lusty grotto
#

wdym

#

why wouldnt he be ?

tribal wharf
#

I've never really been able to hit and keep in range of Sim on any class

#

I should learn why that is

daring marlin
#

yogi go do null

#

get the mount

#

and crests

cerulean tusk
#

Quick, 1-5 pull adventure

solid sun
#

I don't think most people do sim numbers

#

'Cause we ain't robuts

velvet rock
#

sim is the perfect 99.98% case imho. so not realistic.

coarse bay
#

Since sims are an average, you can even beat them by high rolling

lofty warren
#

name of the item that gives you free map

coarse bay
lusty grotto
#

thats the item

velvet rock
#

About that item, do you still get the map if ou already got it this week?

coarse bay
#

No

velvet rock
#

iirc it's one time only right?

undone beacon
#

once a week per character

velvet rock
#

cheers

lusty grotto
#

i got lucky and he spawned for me so i didnt have to use it

velvet rock
#

Same ^^

lofty warren
#

i didnt get a map. how do make the beacon drop a map

warm plinth
toxic pewter
#

Gotta get beacon from nightmare prey

warm plinth
#

YOu kill the nemesis and you get the map

#

wait this is the delve map right

toxic pewter
#

Ya

lofty warren
#

i havent touched nightmares I dont think i can get it

toxic pewter
#

Oh maybe it was just any prey

#

It’s the prey quest

#

I forget what prey difficulty is needed

#

But that’s where u get a beacon

coarse bay
#

Nightmare

lusty grotto
toxic pewter
#

Ok right

#

Do it before reset if u can cuz gives hero loot

#

Might as well try and get so you can get another hero loot after reset with a new map

lofty warren
#

ughhhh

#

new things are scary

undone beacon
#

did y'all turn in the housing weekly for hero crests?

#

seems smart and i dont wanna forget to do it

#

but that marl looks like a new chair for my dining room...

lusty grotto
#

that tells you all you need to know

undone beacon
#

lmao

daring marlin
undone beacon
#

You take runes?

toxic pewter
#

The hero crests may count toward this weeks cap or something I heard

undone beacon
#

they count towards cap yes

lofty warren
#

how to send undercoins to your alts?

undone beacon
#

but are warbound so you can pawn em into an alt

toxic pewter
#

Interesting

lofty warren
#

or to send your thing that gives map to alt

toxic pewter
#

Wait crests are warbound?

#

Err nvm

#

Misread

undone beacon
solid sun
#

Is the quest in the neighborhood?

sudden swallow
#

the files are in the computer

toxic pewter
#

There’s a guy near bank in silvermoon that had the quest

#

For me at least

undone beacon
#

Its a dracthyr in silvermoon yeah

solid sun
#

oh i already picked it up 🤦‍♂️

#

This is what happens when you start playing fury

#

You become a goober

lusty grotto
#

yes cant wait for vault tuesdays

#

where we just spam "take tier or sim"

toxic pewter
#

Lol

lusty grotto
#

and we'll have an insane amount of people saying "but sim doesnt work for defensives"

daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

@south zealot we miss u why arent you playing Midnight

#

thats a

#

one heck of a pfp

daring marlin
#

lmfaooooooo

toxic pewter
#

Lol

south zealot
#

my graphics card got dirty and i fucked up my monitor connection trying to fix it

#

and im too lazy to fix it

lusty grotto
#

post nephew being born i can no longer chuckle at those, i would beat the shit out of anyone doing that

south zealot
#

i literally preordered midnight and everything

lusty grotto
#

ah fuck

daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

nephews are dope

#

he traveling with us, im just scared shitless for him

daring marlin
#

They were doing IVF for years

#

and it finally happened

lusty grotto
#

bro

#

everyone i fucking know has done IVF

#

its weird

daring marlin
#

yeah big sadge

#

they lost the last one

lusty grotto
#

i dont think i personally know anyone that's had a kid that was a natural thing

#

besides the old people of course

#

talking contemporary

daring marlin
#

interesting

lusty grotto
#

i cant even begin to understand how they would feel

#

at least they had one right?

daring marlin
#

yeah

lusty grotto
#

right on

daring marlin
#

hell yeah, super stoked for them

lusty grotto
#

its a wild ride haha

undone beacon
#

Nim, question. Are y'all using both MRT and NSRT?

#

wait i walked into an actual conversation

#

whoops

lusty grotto
#

just be the cool uncle and spoil them with presents Guil

daring marlin
#

all good

lusty grotto
#

this is what i do

daring marlin
#

based

lusty grotto
#

we're not that organized, we're still reforming

undone beacon
#

looks like we're just gonna make people use both

#

dont tell my raid but im using uhhhh

#

nothing rn

lusty grotto
#

tbh i use MRT

#

but 🤷‍♂️

undone beacon
#

Because so many fucking boxes everywhere and tbh the default blizz stuff is doing what i need it to do

#

It announces shit, pings shit, has a timeline, ez

lofty warren
#

what happens if I open delver starter kit and I already gotten 600/600 of them?

undone beacon
#

You get two extra uncapped keys

#

on that one character

lofty warren
#

once per account?

daring marlin
#

yes

sharp gale
#

We use nsrt as a raid weakaura

#

Basically

lofty warren
#

can a map drop from a delve 8 even if its not a bountiful?

toxic pewter
#

I think it’s possible but lower chance

lofty warren
#

confirmed. i got one in a non-bount

toxic pewter
#

Nice

opal ledge
#

i wish we could transmog 2h and shield

mighty valley
#

wow 1hers are mostly fucking massive anyway

opal ledge
#

earthens take 3,56% less physical dmg, omg that's kinda a lot

#

i was expecting less

ebon geyser
opal ledge
#

but the earths are big dwarves

frosty mango
#

So you know at least one

dusky canopy
#

@lusty grotto

daring marlin
#

@ionic fern dk is also ready for M+

lusty grotto
shut tide
#

What's y'all feelings on Prot war or brewmaster for alt tanking?

eager rampart
#

Both

rapid dragon
#

just how often should i be trying to use ignore pain? do you aim for 100% uptime?

rapid dragon
#

sounds like keeping the AM machine flowing is what I should try to keep going

lusty grotto
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yup

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youll have like 80% uptime on it that way

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but uptime wont matter tbh

rapid dragon
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I am going to have to untrain the instinct to refresh if I have a bunch of stacks and it's about to drop.

rocky grove
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Is there a soft cap we should consider currently for haste.

mighty valley
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not really, there's a breakpoint where you can comfortably switch to ITF

coarse bay
solid sun
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Yo nimmies are you around

mighty valley
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the people want the nim walls of text

lusty grotto
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raiding atm

solid sun
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I tabbed back over to discord and I saw stuff from like 3 hours ago lmao

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We had our first and are expecting and it's been all uhhh natural or however you say it

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And obviously we are personal bff's for life so

lusty grotto
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thats awesome

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1 for like 6 or 7 lol

solid sun
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lol

lusty grotto
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but yeah thats good

sharp gale
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6 7

lusty grotto
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i was thinking it was IVF all the way

solid sun
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We've had 2 miscarriages

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Pretty brutal

lusty grotto
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holy fuck

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im so sorry

sharp gale
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my cousin did 1 and was pretty shell shocked by it for some years

solid sun
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The stats on it are pretty insane

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A few years ago I was reading like 1 in every 4

mighty valley
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yeah the whole process of having kids is way more fraught and risky than anyone wants to talk about

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v sad

fiery spindle
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Miscarriages must be an insane mental toll I don't even want to imagine

solid sun
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It's uhhh not fun

sharp gale
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yeah my family is kinda religious so it was even more... daunting

rapid dragon
opal ledge
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i just found a way to lvl really fast

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the quest to unlock dark iron dwarves gives a lot of exp if ur are lvl 85 or somethin like that

ebon geyser
opal ledge
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mobs in molten core were giving 5k exp or 9k exp

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that's kinda a lot

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like 15 mobs = 1 dungeon

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i'm not sure how to fast reset it

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i'm just doing it to inlock the class...
maybe the mobs in the dungeon the quest offers also can give this exp
i skipped

maiden quiver
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I'm pretty sure I unlocked dark iron dwarves years ago lol, but that's neat

open lintel
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Is there any Prot Warrior content creator streaming his M+ Keys?

steep pulsar
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Does prot share same stats as arms?

slender bison
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Icy veins Light blind Vanguard tank guide says you have to taunt AFTER Judgement is cast and not DURING the cast. This is fake news.

ebon geyser
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sense idk if he does keys streams and kira IF he play prot if not then no

slender bison
open lintel
rocky grove
tame jasper
open lintel
tame jasper
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No. Ask him. I'm personally not using a lot of addons and never used an addon to change the character screen

mighty valley
lament osprey
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Character**

open lintel
fringe mural
# slender bison

well that's not really saying you need to wait for the cast to finish to taunt

slender bison
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The spell is casted. When you say After, what does that mean?

fringe mural
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Some enemies switch target midcast

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for those you have to wait until the cast has ended to taunt