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Healer’s have their own simming tool
fun tips:
make dungeons with elixir of giant growth if ur not using a flask
I did not realize Prot did that much damage, from looking at the logs. Hows their ST?
Not the strongest out of the tanks in damage, but still fine
Middle of the pack
Lemme guess, Druid then brew are higher ST?
I believe so
Did u guys craft 272 sword and shield or saved your hero crests?
But it isnt as severe as it was
Save hero crests
And if you plan on doing any mythic raid, first boss drops a shield
So i wont be crafting one
kind of a shame how low BDK is.
Not sure what it’s numbers are, but i dont think tanks are that out of line anymore
Could be wrong though
What trinks are the best to use? I have crucible, veteran heart of ancient hunger, champion vessel of tortured souls
sim
the ultradon cuirass is pretty neat
What’s that
the delve trinket
Oh
its not that good long cd
Idrc about trinkets rn tbh
Yeah, I think at herioic its a near 500k absorb
1 target 5 min patchwerk + 6-10 target 1 min patchwerk? Or what sims are recommended
Being squishy early on before gear its nice
1t 5 min (or 3 min) are good for ST
5t 1:30 min for AOE
It's a minute long of extra mitigation essentially
Obviously to be replaced by the better trinkets, but it's been fun so far
As long as you enjoy it, its bis
To each their own, pulling and not seeing HP move is pretty fun
Zero movement, AFK status
afking in a game is fun ?
Not here to prove what I find fun is you kind of fun
Saying its a neat trinket not taking 500k damage over 1 minute
Mid for sure, but fun
its not for 1 min
It's for 1 minute yes
ok then you are actually playing
if thats the case then yes
it goes after mit and block
Yeah so stretches quite far, again a neat trinket
this is interesting. im sure it needs work, and no guardian druid.
Say it aint so
I was watching Liquid Maximums stream and they were making spreadsheets on what the comp would be. the popular one for now was monk/dk.
Thats viewers lol they dont know
Do you still think bdk req nim?
yes
I was hoping the dragon change would make it not so

Oh well, pwarr dead, time to reroll DK 🥺
uhh you missed some key context
krieger was talking about BDK, so my reply was about them
JOKES ON YOU MINE IS ALREADY 90
Nah, I got ya.
Thats also talking about the highest level. theres gonna be plenty of raids that run warriors and plenty that dont use DKs
💯
Is it for the little adds to debuff the big guys or is there something more?
Im not super familiar with crown yet
Very true
Honestly though, pwarr is life
I can’t explain it, even after playing all the tanks. There is nothing quite as satisfying as heroic leaping down and smashing bros with your shield.
For sure. Bleeding edge is a different beast.
Finally throwing in the towel on H crown week 1! Had some awesome pulls & finally figured out the tank swaps, but spent 2:30 hours in queue last night, only managed to join 1 group in that time!
Still had an amazing time this week, first time ever pushing this high into heroic this early in pugs🤯 🤯 🤯
did you not see what i told you
I got a stupid question
How come the Tier S trinket I got is doing worse than Latch Hook
I did! I used the website you linked to read up, goated! 👑 👑
this is #protection
not arms
It's my prot warrior
interestingly it says Arms Warrior
oh weird let me double check rq
whats the s tier trinket
let me fix that
none of those are s-tier lmao
What site do we use?
but...
icy-veins for prot
wowhead is fine for fury and arms though since Archi maintains it
that being said
haste falls into defensive simming area after a certain point
so just use it i guess, and ignore sims
I thought Pumps was fine at the game
hes a good player
but its difficult to keep up with discords
and hes maintaining like 5 different guides
I just wanna do MAx damage for prot
his recommendations dont align with ours for the time being
then go with the sim
yea I want MAX max
God damn they really kill this bear 
damn that's crazy
imagine getting kicked from a heroic dreamrift cuz you pull threat and facetank the big add
for a good 6 seconds
Don’t do that then 4head smh
Yes
that boss is gonna be the worst I think
Yeah Saprish is gonna fucking suck, at least for the first week before people figure it out
put a marker on the bird
and having a ranged class helps
hunter mage
as they just counterspell from range instantly
sir the bird won't be the problem
the way it put it in chat is "kick bird when it does white circle, ring the bombs, have to get hit or die slowly"
judgement on paladins fight can be spell reflected?
Dude the bear nerfs were announced 20 mins ago and the discord is on fucking fire 
Hey folks. How can I track my Shield Block uptime better. Constantly looking at my buff list isn't practical. And the CDM just telling me when I can hit it again.
In CDM there is a way to enable it to show the buff timer
Not just when you can hit it, but an actual timer bar for its duration
It’s the little lightning bolt icon in the base UI, should be called like “Buffs” or “Auras” or something
yeah CDM lets you track it like this
LOL
wowhead?
lmao
Anytme they dont buff shadow priest i am sadgers
prot pala is the #1 spec in solo shuffle right nnow
prot pally owns
prot pala is runningg rampant
DROP THE HAMMER BABY
thats cuz pvp is fake content that blizz doesnt care about 
ALL THE SHIELDS TOO
lol
u know the 3 paladin boss fight
i tried to shattering throw the divine shield
it did not work
op
I tried that too
buff warrior
You can mass dispel the divine shield
lmao
right..
so i figured why not me
As our only priest it is my most important job all raid
shattering should work tho lol
im gonna submit a bug report
When are we running a 3s team as The Lightblind Vanguard and just stealing the names and mogs of the bosses
ill double check it but I swear i sent it and it said immune
I can be Senn if I have to
lol ngl that squad is sick
what is spell reflectable on that fight tho
Triple pally 3s sounds disgustingly annoying to fight
the judgement?
SR reduces judgement damage but isnt a full reflect iirc
I swear I spell reflected or deflected judgment by accident I think it may be
i know i reflected or deflected something
yeah damn if it is judgment thats actually awesome
can cover for when other tank doesnt taunt
I mean theres a way in logs to see if thats what it is
apparently spell reflection was 5ish% of my dam on that fight but i was hitting it not even realizing i could reflect anything
so def something is im not surre how to see what it is though
Looks like the damage may be reflectable yeah
Its not updated on Maxroll but the logs seem to line up
neat
yeah and the target of the SR lines up too
its exorcism and shield of the righteous
🙏
thats crazy
Hey all, could not find a pin for that, so going to ask.
I am not new to the game at all but sometimes I ofc. Go to clarify or check for updates on best performing gear, builds etc, I usually check up with wowhead guides but sometimes get bullied for that, with smth like- Go icyVeins or Murlok Io.
I am aware that for some specs Icy is doing a bad job but wanted to ask you, what do you think the best source of info for port warr specifically
Icy veins all day.
Icyveins is preferred for Prot Warriors currently.
Our guide writer for wowhead stepped down and the information there isnt updated often, and murlok.io is a data aggregation site, not a guide
Icyveins and this Discord are maintained by active prot warriors. You'll find the most accurate information there
More like- those are the top guys copy them build and check what they wear, I usually use murlok for pvp
Thank you very much colleagues for shining the light on that matter
Well yes, but M+ is not PvP and the things top M+ tanks do is notably different than the masses, so using it as a guide for you character is generally not recommended
I’m gonna drop this here out of legit curiosity: how much stock do you put into tank parses? Or is this too easy a question?
not very much
Sry, not native English speaker what do you mean by stock?
Like how much attention/value ?
Correct.
they matter to ME 😠
tank performance does not mean you automatically parse high
For instance, you’re not dying, you don’t need constant healer attention, tank mechanics/taunt swaps/positioning is all legit.
does that mean i shouldnt care if the brewmaster co-tank in my raid is parsing higher and doing more damage
I dont personally care about tank or healer parses. While a low tank parse can mean someone doesnt control their class well, it could also mean shit assignments or strats, and doesnt always matter
you should care, if youre losing threat
Agreed fully. But say you’ve got threat, and mechanics/positioning is on point.
if youre losing threat, you should aim to parse higher
If i see a low tank parse, it will make me look deeper
instead of making the poor other tank hold their shit
If you have threat, aren't ripping, and are doing mechanics correctly, it doesn't really matter. Tank damage parse is gravy but if you're doing high parse at the cost of ripping off your co tank all the time, or cant hold aggro yourself, thats more important
pretty much
If we are talking raids- I wouldn’t put much, tho you as a tank contribute damage to the team, ur focus is on mechanics and positioning, if the thing is dead u did a good job.
As for M+ parse they just help u track how much better u did than others of ur spec, but remember if u don’t log the damage it self m+ parses read the key lvl u completed+ how fast u did it. So it just lets u know where u stand within the prot ranking so to say
Oh and fwiw, dps parses hold the same value. Parse isnt the best metric, just the only one readily available
as long as youre keeping SB uptime, you shold be fine - and other obvious stuff that we can point out in here
M+ parsing is the most useless thing
My wish of bear nerf has come true.
Good deal. I just wanted some input on the matter. I have no complaints, just personal goals.
I agree, just explaining the basic concept as I see it
Unless youre comparing against the same comp, route, gear etc. a m+ parse doesnt provide good info
I was talking about raid parses specifically.
Ya i mean parses are fun but also whatever
@ornate palm that
An outlier in the lower end of the spectrum is usually a sign of a problem in gameplay
But not always
Parsing as dps is half the fun imo
I wish you were in dreamgrove rn its crazy
Parsing makes me feel bad as dps because i fuckin suck at shadow rn
Idk believe yall are fine btw, my hot take
But lowkey was inting running misery in raid whoops
The napkin math shapes out to be that we'll be in line with brew and prot for ST, but M+ is looking sketch
In the parse department my raid performance this week was the worst ive ever had
Again, aggro good, mechanics good, sb uptime good, not dying good. Apparently at this point I just need to send every single cooldown all of the time.
To get my parses up.
I stand by my statement of it’s okay ✅
we do review them
but also this week is not really a good week to put much importance to parses
U can also share as anonymous if shy and there wont be shaming
when RWF has 4pc and gear sooner than the rest, they skew the parse amounts
splits speed up gearing CONSIDERABLY
I know, I’m gonna take advantage of y’all’s expertise at some point in the near future.
and so does fight experience
Yeah we love to look at logs and then call you names (like cutiepie or sweetheart)

if you do 20 splits, you know the fights extremely well very early
I’m just thinking that logs right now might be a bit…premature.
you can compete but the odds are against you
Nah, I’ll put my name on it.
Also Nim they fixed the catalyst thing for alts and I'm pissy because my rat hunter has 4set
Shame away. I’ve been a tank a long time, you don’t think I’ve already heard the worst shit imaginable in pugs?
We only shame if you're being a flaming rude ass dipshit 
Nah this isnt the place
❤️
unless, what Pash said
Eating dpsdmg would give you a disease
that guy put me on block faster than me going for cheese
how does it work once you get that achievement when it comes to other characters like does it make it easier for ur druid to get tier pieces of example
i couldnt even get mavis beacon turbo typing in
it doesnt do shit for other characters
i hate you pash
it makes it so cata charges can drop on that character
ddamn lol

how could you make John Blizzard do this
I’m not at that level, but I have run a ludicrous amount of pugs this week. Like just re-running the bosses for no loot.whats wrong with me?
wait so it drops for ur hunter?
lol wat
i thought it was meant to help alts or something
Yee because i got 4set i can farm cata charges on the hunter
??????
Nah its designed to stop the whole "I have to hold all my charges until I have hero/myth pieces"
Means youre having fun
you shouldnt have done that, you might have fucked the group on loot amount
I see ok
So it doesnt feel like shit if you cata a champ piece and then get a hero piece in a dungeon, or so you dont have to wait to get your tier bonuses
I know, and I put it I. The notes that I’ve already done it. They invited me anyways.
Its not a bad idea tbh, just annoying to me right now because im unlucky
well in that case its ok
I mean, if they knew they knew
I remember doing that myself in my youth
Good times
The guild leader of the deadly penguin squad was always hitting the bong between pulls
I just wanted to get the reps in so when I do guild runs, I can just stroll in swinging that big confidence around.
I need to join some pugs like that on my priest just to practice
I know once I have tier it'll help me a lot but
Its been a while since I've swapped specs for a tier
Who do I complain to at blizz to make my rolls better?
there are goats to sacrifice to rngsus
Ive gotten complacent myself and locked in when i realized what was happening
Went back to studying logs etc
I'm so used to tanking and just locking in on making sure I tank well and hold aggro etc etc that being dps is throwing me off
Also in raid Shadow runs the talent that makes it so Shadow Word Pain deals 150% increased damage, but you have to give up the "Vampiric Touch applies SWP" talent and that messed me up a bit
Misery my beloved
I just feign ignorance if I’m ever asked to play a DPS spec. Tank or bust.
I was our mythic prog tank and RL for the last two seasons, I needed a break before I bashed my skull open with a rock
DPS? Does that stand for Double Protection Spec?
Ngl i tried my spriest and i have respect for you
Its one of the few specs that retained some complexity
Well
And has always kinda sucked lmao
I try to do damage and then everyone else laps me
I mean honestly its pretty fun outside of mind flay spam but, yeah them gutting Psychic Link right before the raid without any real ST fights sucks ass
#removePsychicLink
U were doing good
Real talk, I’ve never met a shadow priest who wasn’t, how should I say, a fringe human being.
Woah
Pash is hot and awesome
And cute and smart

Some good, some bad, but they have all been a bit out there personality wise.
Siege of boralas s1 tww final boss made my gf reroll from spriest main
In 12s the dot was killing her in 2 ticks
Siege of Boralus S1 TWW final boss made me wanna reroll from the game
Miserable
Again, I should clarify that it goes both ways. Sometimes it rolls to the awesome/interesting person side. But there have been some…
Lmao
..I totally blocked out siege was s1
Also put some respect on Viq'goth's name
cant have siege without bolstering
Tanking siege wasnt bad minus banana section
im sorry (not sorry)
tbh i dont really go into spriest discord unless its to bother one of the experts with some innane question so, thats fair
but also tbf, it was a small improvement to the og one
yup
Bring back Skittish #iloveskittish
Perma giga boss trash
OG raging was fun too but not as fun as bolstering
Who hurt you
w/ the spotter
ok you need to calm down Pash
#bringbacknecroticbanner!
Necrotic 
Why do I remember explosive orbs spawning everywhere during siege final boss at one point
you already gave ideas to Blizz about my lovely alts not getting catalyst charges
Skittish kinda w/e. Never felt like that was a meaningful affix
Man u guys dont make me miss affixes
They did spawn ecerywhere

Because they did spawn everywhere on siege final boss, including underwater
I remember it being awesome
My gnome swim in the fountain of 3rd boss
Remember in TWW when the xalatath CC orb affix would spawn in narnia during Viq'goth and then you just wiped 
Yep
pretty bad dps lol
That was pretty epic
Ghash what’s your favorite affix of all time
does anyone know if the protocols are warbound?
im doing something horribly wrong as fury, should look into that
for crucible?
Nop
They are not
Sorry to once again dissapoint you Nim
i swear to christ my alts trinkets say all 3, but their research isnt up there
And you have to do the world tour event for the free spark on every alts
It says all three to tell you that you can do those things
Not that they are unlocked
Think we all can agree that all the affixes that could ruin ur run on the final boss sucked arse.
Because blizzard and tooltips
Clapping cheeks starts tomorrow 
fucking blizzard, get your shit together with warbound stuff
Hit 250 in prot and fury lol
when do we swap on heroic dragons
Intermission
skill issue
true
does defensive stance also work on bleeds?
Half is problematic
heard
i have no idea how to play fury
DR works on everything
tyty
Yeee any % DR works on all damage
ok perfect
i could just go in the channel
Going to ignore seasonal since that's cheating and say probably the newest version of Quaking or maybe Volcanic
Volcanic feels kinda like cheating to say though because I almost exclusively played melee when the old style affixes existed
Worst affix was the ghuun one
I liked Cryptic because the robots had funny names and I liked the big CDR 
Favorite seasonal is probably Encrypted, but Awakened is a very close second.
quaking was always totally reasonable EXCEPT they’d forget one boss per season that vacuums the squad together
Grievous. Halls of atonement. disc priest as healer. The ultimate affix
Eh, I didn't like the earlier version where you got interrupted even if you didn't stack
I felt like that punished casters twice
What about Eternus's Trial: Twilight Reflections
what’s casting
that was an affix
My fav seasonal affix is nzoth and bwomsamdi
happy
Playing a mage in og quaking was so fun…
ALl the Legion Remix affixes were whatever as they didn't matter
It’s me
Was that the void realm thingie?
Nah that was SL s2, anima powers
all bear druids are window lickers
i misread happy, you good
where u could skip sections
ALL OF THEM
My favorite affix was the one where you’d enter the portal and skip tons of bullcrap and then kill the bad guy and exit the portal
Tormented was aight, we had cute nicknames for all the mini bosses
That was Awakened
Infested was 100% the worst
That was king
What was the affix where the tank had to run away because they’d stop getting healing
Necrotic
That was the best non seasonal affix :)
I never had a problem with Sanguine tbh
Awakened - kill lieutenants to skip shit
Infested - Easily the worst seasonal; summoned g'huunies
Reaping - mobs spawn at every 20% forces; a lot of people's favorite but only because aoe was largely uncapped then
Beguiling - Emissary affix
Prideful - Fuck prideful, also one of the worst
Tormented - kill lieutenants for anima powers
Encrypted - Kill automaton dudes to gain powers based first one killed (aka the gogofastasfuckboi affix)
Shrouded - lame damage boost (main stat I think?) for killing specific enemies
if they put it back , im not playing it
I think that was all of the seasonals
Awakened is the undisputed goat affix
Vile Lasher
Addressed an issue where Vile Bite’s bleed effect was not ignoring armor.
oh no
reaping is good
Reaping was overrated. People only liked it because they could pad.
no way, reaping was amazing
And anyone doing serious keys just skipped the affix
long as its one im thiking of
oh my god
Hacker
adds every 20% and puts purple and teal circles on the ground
TRUUUUUUUUUUUUE
bfa
It was only short at the end of its existence
you know why reaping was trash? people did what they could to avoid it
it was fun
Necrotic started at like 10 or 12 seconds long. They dropped it all the way to like 6 at the end and it still sucked
doing the last boss at like 99% count then killing a single add to finish
same as prideful
trash affix
It's better than prideful only because prideful scaling should not have been endless.
which is more than 27k on warrior
It was fucking stupid to die to an affix mob that was harder than the dungeon bosses
so,
Or dying to the boss because you had to blow your cds on the prideful (e.g. first boss mists)
Didn’t people start shadowmelding or whatever them
list of all affixes
quaking sucks
Any suggestion for boss frames addon?
Just really need it to be "boxy" and readable for quick taunts when tanking instead of the default
Does default blizz not offer raid style frames for those?
i dont think there are any besides full elvui profiles
or rather full unit frame addons
I don't think so, that would be amazing
The way u change party frames to that is by clicking it in the edit screen there
If theres an option itll be there
I searched for "boss" and "frames" in Settings, nothing shows up
Not settings
In edit mode
In that ss
Click the boss frames and look through the options
Best I got is this
Hows larger frame look
Ya then you’ll need a frame addon like nim said
Danders frames is popular but idk how much of a toll it takes
I’m waiting on Danders to do it.
It might be now.
Haven’t had a chance to mess with it yet.
I tried danders for a single raid encounter and got rid of it
I just need boss frames now, my UI is looking fine for the rest
That’s too bad. I’m really digging it.
Ai slop 
Yeah but need AOTC today
You’ll probably need a larger addon to do it
For me, it makes seeing the stacks for boss debuffs on co-tank super easy.
What do u mean need? Yesterday there was 160 guilds in the world with it
I looked in BigWigs does not offer that, would be nice
And once I figure out how to use Intervene like a pro, it will be gravy.
best of luck
AotC isnt out yet tho, as the final raid of the season aint out?
Aotc today is high hof
Theres an AotC for each raid
meanwhile ill just get it in 2 weeks cause vacation time on wednesday
He means aotc for voidspire
Same with CE
well default frames will have to do it then, thanks guys
k
missing first week of M+, sorry you'll have to come back next season no point even playing
Idk so few people have downed it, and a lot of them did splits. We did a few pulls and called it lmao
Does this mean I am AoTC for killing that bird thing?
We arent them
Ya lmao
Nice
we didn't make it to H crown 
Turns out dragging 30 people through H dragons is hell
Paladins are tuff
That too
30 man raids is an affix
If we didn't have 30 people we prob coulda made it
100%
and my name is Window 
30 man makes these fights so much harder
You don’t need heroic for that. Trying to drag pugs through normal dragons will give you the same effect.
DUDE
The BDK left me and the other group in heroic dreamrift
with the bear
and I got melee'd by the colossus three times in a row
three different pulls
There’s a lot of bear tourists right now but they’ll all dip tomorrow don’t worry
there is ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAUNTED IN THERE LOL
I remember a cool bear in EN
first tier cata was crazy
mangle spam as bear was lmfao
DotC bear tank last season was kinda fun ngl
Legit catweaving was neat
Too bad that’s turbo dead
EC is looking like it’s gonna pull ahead in all content now yeah
See I’m not asking Pash to carry me rn while it sucks
I’ll ask Pash to carry for aotc when I am tough and strong and they don’t have 30 people
that, and i need to track rend
or i will let it fall of even that i know its on for 15 seconds
Youll get aotc easy in like 2 weeks
Next week a lot more people will be able to do it and i think 2 weeks will be puggable
Myth wep is a massive bump
ill do keys tomorrow
How many
but then im off to desert land
yes
That’s a good amount
I was also planning to do that many
I'll be doing keys too
Nimchip did you forget to check your DMs
around 9pm EST
no i checked them, i just dont know why youre playing thane
getting a heroic crown kill with a pug week 1 is fun.. lol
thane on crown 


There are like so many adds
No me
My mage loses no ST to pad
Still could only get a 50 parse, I guess with only 86 other kills I can't be that upset.
meanwhile Guilford the ret pally blasts your adds down and your thane dps is gone 🙂
just strapped my shield on ready for some mythic+ on wed.
I could have sworn shield block was mega easy to keep 100% uptime on last season
Finding I am gettign gaps where I don't have it up
is this right...did something change?
You think Guilford would be caught dead in my raid?
you leveled and lost haste
swap to HR
you go ITF at 1188 haste rating, otherwise you HR
same as it is in every single expansion first season
Guys guys new copypasta from bear discord please tell me how it ranks
Ah ok that makes sense...
Whats HR sorry
Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.
lmao
Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.
Heavy Repercussions
thats a good copy pasta
ok bud thank you so much
Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.
Listen you dense blob. As long as I live as a tank, it rarely ever matters how much dam I do in raids as long as I keep threat. Tank dam is cosmetic. I also, again NEVER SAID tanks should not do damage. I can repeat it for you again if you want. TANK RAID ST DAM IS NOT RELEVANT ENOUGH TO WARRANT BRICKING M+ PERFORMANCE OVER IT. Thats what I mean with irrelevant.
Getting to 1188 base haste seems like a nightmare right now.
we dont have full gearing options atm
and upgrades will be limited by crest caps
so its a marathon not a sprint
DROP THE HAMMER
still apply ilvl > all or sim haste pieces
Copy. I do feel silly targeting M0’s and just replacing champ gear with champ gear because it has haste on it instead of mastery. But them’s the breaks until M+.
okay, my dps is, better
not totally fixed
still i was seeing they want 60k dps i guess, maybe thats for heroic
There’s been this for a bit if u wanna learn how to play arcane mage
my body is a machine that turns 20 :arcanesalvo: into :arcanebarrage:
i am a vessel that uses :arcaneorb: after :arcanebarrage:
after i do :arcaneblast: or if i hate myself, :impetus:
this is all i am
Praise be the teachings of porom sama
Oh heck
No emotes
Failed
Failed



I did rewatch the vod and i technically couldve reacted within like MS with my alter time
is arms still doomed even after buff
Probably gotta ask the arms people
All 2 of them sadly.
the less i go into arms and fury channel the best i feel lol
Came here for Bear info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, dense blob thinking it is relevant damage
Came here for Bear info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, dense blob thinking it is relevant damage
Came here for Bear info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, dense blob thinking it is relevant damage
60k? I see people asking for 50k min
which is fair
i got your bear info right here
hopefully i can hack it in some form
keystones look fun, im wondering what monsters are going to give us huge hell that we normally over look now
Interrupt question: I am having trouble targetting mobs for interrupt when there are more than 5 mobs in a pack. For instance, Magisters Terrace where there are packs of a few big mobs and a dozen smaller mobs. I am using Plater, but the nameplates are just a jumble when you get so many mobs.
I use a mouseover macro for targeting but it doesnt help much at cutting through the clutter. What do you guys do in crowded situations?
It’s kinda hard to fix it with new blizzard rules on nameplate control
I found it pretty bad on player and platynator
Ive been using ellesmereui and his nameplates have been ok for me
I find that I am wasting my interrupts a lot on mistargets
what is different about ellesmerui?
some of my plater profiles ar still workin start of combat
and turning caster bars teal until pulled
so it gives good idea of what to expect
my plater profile works, there are just too many mobs
I find the spacing option on his nameplates to be better, but it could be subjective
Idk to be safe start clicking to dig through nameplates when its bad
Instead of mouseover for everything
Or focus macro an important cast and have a bind for regular kick and one for focus
Outside of those leave that to the team
well, the "team" is usualyl a pug, so I am usually the one to do it
Ya use a focus macro for kicks and know the important casts in each pull
Extremely good habit
And makes things easier
what do you do if there are many mobs that need focus?
they are in packs of 2
remember name of monsters that cast bad things often comes in packs of 2 of them
Cc lock the one u dont kick or use the silencing throw thingy we have now
ok, I just wanted to make sure I was not the only one having problems
make one of them target mouse over other
kick stun as needed
stun is they will diminishing return each stun, and they will just recast, but better than have abiility go off
i use my infamous random kick macro
same
but yeah the nameplate issue is in plater, base nameplates and platynator, when too many mobs they stack on each others
Like i said ive found ellesmere’s nameplates in his addon to actually handle it really well
But its a full ui addon and nameplates is only a part of it
Focus macro is simply the best option now no matter what, and always has been
fortunately the infamous macro has a focus macro in it
Quick question, if I have SS and TC out of CD, is it worth to press TC to proc apex talent? Or SS better for dmg either way? ( ST and AoE )
Ss
Dont play around the apex
Let it happen naturally
TY
So arms got a stealth buff 
I dont think it was very stealthy
lol

Arms doesn’t use stealth
it was a blue post with just two specs getting changed right?
bear nerfs and arms buffs
That's like almost exclusive
And 4% buff on frost dk
NEW BALANCING?
How many keys are going to be short timer 30 minutes is one like fatal dazar despite holds 4 boss
And I want to say 33 minutes too
Fatal dazar lol phone
all of them
I hate that the timers feel short, though there are changes
They want to stay around the 30 minute mark always now
literally all timers this season are 30 mins
Its their stated goal
just like last sesson
Well changes for below 10 basically
Timers feel longer when Cam is in them because you kill everything so fast you have like 20 minutes left on them
I wasn't active in any sense since s3 df
below 10s are easier because you get the mobs that take more damage but its the same timer
and no death penalty
Tiny bit S1 tww
-15s is active past 12s
ok cool
First they came for the Druids, and I did not speak up
there's still the penalty of running back and dying with lust up and all that jazz like before Guilford
Maybe for extreme baby key if you wipe to boss with just it removes it, 20m cd
Is nallaeus tankable for my party?
Yes
I've never really been able to hit and keep in range of Sim on any class
I should learn why that is
Quick, 1-5 pull adventure
sim is the perfect 99.98% case imho. so not realistic.
Since sims are an average, you can even beat them by high rolling
name of the item that gives you free map
Its from the prey guy, quest to do 3 nightmares
About that item, do you still get the map if ou already got it this week?
No
iirc it's one time only right?
once a week per character
cheers
i got lucky and he spawned for me so i didnt have to use it
Same ^^
i didnt get a map. how do make the beacon drop a map
You use it once you've reached the midway point (the summoning stone looking thing) in the delve, and it summons the nemesis
Gotta get beacon from nightmare prey
Ya
i havent touched nightmares I dont think i can get it
Oh maybe it was just any prey
It’s the prey quest
I forget what prey difficulty is needed
But that’s where u get a beacon
Nightmare
its 3x nightmare kills
Ok right
Do it before reset if u can cuz gives hero loot
Might as well try and get so you can get another hero loot after reset with a new map
did y'all turn in the housing weekly for hero crests?
seems smart and i dont wanna forget to do it
but that marl looks like a new chair for my dining room...
lmao
capped on hero crests anyway so nah
You take runes?
The hero crests may count toward this weeks cap or something I heard
they count towards cap yes
how to send undercoins to your alts?
but are warbound so you can pawn em into an alt
Interesting
or to send your thing that gives map to alt
what this
Is the quest in the neighborhood?
the files are in the computer
Its a dracthyr in silvermoon yeah
oh i already picked it up 🤦♂️
This is what happens when you start playing fury
You become a goober
With m+ starting tommorow it is the time to post the usual start of the season plays
https://i.redd.it/otk4cwzoqh3e1.gif
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055196260329590874/1320668978732859402/big2.gif?ex=69c2f395&is=69c1a215&hm=10b9b4e024e1df6b22e27dab0e02bfd39b82e88efe1c58d6b0ef14aafc543775&
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1107076212486066187/1263259719636877474/test23456.gif?ex=69c30ecb&is=69c1bd4b&hm=a125a5f4f91070caca192f185af60fc42914366dfe7c6fae915a57307aa2a97a&
Lol
and we'll have an insane amount of people saying "but sim doesnt work for defensives"

@south zealot we miss u why arent you playing Midnight
thats a
one heck of a pfp

lmfaooooooo
Lol
my graphics card got dirty and i fucked up my monitor connection trying to fix it
and im too lazy to fix it
post nephew being born i can no longer chuckle at those, i would beat the shit out of anyone doing that
i literally preordered midnight and everything
dang my brother had a kid last week too
i dont think i personally know anyone that's had a kid that was a natural thing
besides the old people of course
talking contemporary
interesting
that fucking blows man
i cant even begin to understand how they would feel
at least they had one right?
yeah
right on
hell yeah, super stoked for them
its a wild ride haha
Nim, question. Are y'all using both MRT and NSRT?
wait i walked into an actual conversation
whoops
just be the cool uncle and spoil them with presents Guil
all good
this is what i do
based
neither
we're not that organized, we're still reforming
looks like we're just gonna make people use both
dont tell my raid but im using uhhhh
nothing rn
Because so many fucking boxes everywhere and tbh the default blizz stuff is doing what i need it to do
It announces shit, pings shit, has a timeline, ez
what happens if I open delver starter kit and I already gotten 600/600 of them?
once per account?
yes
I use both
We use nsrt as a raid weakaura
Basically
can a map drop from a delve 8 even if its not a bountiful?
I think it’s possible but lower chance
confirmed. i got one in a non-bount
Nice
i wish we could transmog 2h and shield
wow 1hers are mostly fucking massive anyway
but you will be a dwarf
but the earths are big dwarves
Can confirm I created mine the old way
So you know at least one
get it bro
@ionic fern dk is also ready for M+
gzgz
What's y'all feelings on Prot war or brewmaster for alt tanking?
Both
just how often should i be trying to use ignore pain? do you aim for 100% uptime?
no, read this: #protection message
thanks, that was really good
sounds like keeping the AM machine flowing is what I should try to keep going
I am going to have to untrain the instinct to refresh if I have a bunch of stacks and it's about to drop.
Is there a soft cap we should consider currently for haste.
not really, there's a breakpoint where you can comfortably switch to ITF
Good way to break them is to not track ip
Yo nimmies are you around
the people want the nim walls of text
raiding atm
I tabbed back over to discord and I saw stuff from like 3 hours ago lmao
We had our first and are expecting and it's been all uhhh natural or however you say it
And obviously we are personal bff's for life so
lol
but yeah thats good
6 7
i was thinking it was IVF all the way
my cousin did 1 and was pretty shell shocked by it for some years
yeah the whole process of having kids is way more fraught and risky than anyone wants to talk about
v sad
Miscarriages must be an insane mental toll I don't even want to imagine
It's uhhh not fun
yeah my family is kinda religious so it was even more... daunting
I stopped tracking, and that last run felt much smoother. nearly doubled my damage too
i just found a way to lvl really fast
the quest to unlock dark iron dwarves gives a lot of exp if ur are lvl 85 or somethin like that
like how fast we talking like 85 to 90 in 30 min o what
mobs in molten core were giving 5k exp or 9k exp
that's kinda a lot
like 15 mobs = 1 dungeon
i'm not sure how to fast reset it
i'm just doing it to inlock the class...
maybe the mobs in the dungeon the quest offers also can give this exp
i skipped
I'm pretty sure I unlocked dark iron dwarves years ago lol, but that's neat
Is there any Prot Warrior content creator streaming his M+ Keys?
Does prot share same stats as arms?
Icy veins Light blind Vanguard tank guide says you have to taunt AFTER Judgement is cast and not DURING the cast. This is fake news.
sense or kira
sense idk if he does keys streams and kira IF he play prot if not then no
thx
any idea what the number is, thanks
Dorki said he will play all tanks, but I guess he will start with BDK and GDruid first
thank your for answering, do you know by any chance what addons he uses to display his char stats like that?:
No. Ask him. I'm personally not using a lot of addons and never used an addon to change the character screen
alright thx
it’s pretty big, 1188
Not a flex
Chonky charter sheet
Character**
thank you!
well that's not really saying you need to wait for the cast to finish to taunt
The spell is casted. When you say After, what does that mean?



