protection

[outer willow]

The issue is only the embel

[daring marlin]

@toxic pewter I am now also 0/3 on first three in heroic

[lusty grotto]

youll be negative 1 embelish but it is what it is

[outer willow]

nothing else

[toxic pewter]

yeah just awful luck this season

[outer willow]

I had no idea perm embellishments were even a thing.

till right now

[lusty grotto]

ITS WEEK 1 APB

[toxic pewter]

lol

uhh yeah

[lusty grotto]

"this season"

[toxic pewter]

week 1 is my biggest week

i gotta get aotc

[lusty grotto]

the raid JUST CAME OUT ON TUESDAY

[toxic pewter]

by tues

lol

[lusty grotto]

uh huh

[toxic pewter]

its my thing i do

[solid sun]

apb gotta finish his achieves so he can get back to killing folks in wpvp and hitting on goth chicks at culvers

[toxic pewter]

yeah i actually do gotta finish pve stuff

so i can pvp ya lmao

[cerulean tusk]

If you mean killing bots and innocent casuals, I would believe you

[outer willow]

So this embellishment I put on here, I cannot ever take it off? Has that always been that way?

[daring marlin]

looks like ES is good now

[toxic pewter]

na just means that embellishh is like locked to that slot cant move it around

[daring marlin]

I'm still doing 30s window tho

[toxic pewter]

if u wanted

[outer willow]

Ahhhh

I see

So even if I get a myth weapon in vault and swap it out, i'm stuck with a weapon embellishment for the season

so I gotta lean into it

[lusty grotto]

no you can just embelish other slot

if you replace your weapon

[outer willow]

Shield meta. Got it.

[undone beacon]

You can have two embellished items, some items have a “perma embellish”, which is one that just comes with the item and can’t be removed. Other crafted items can have an embellishment added to them or removed when you craft them

Typically items with the “perma embellish”-es are undertuned

[cerulean tusk]

The boots last season was 0.2% of my overall DPS, giga value I want you to know

[undone beacon]

I used Adrenal Surge Clasp on my Druid all of TWW

Also apparently some of the perma embellishes are good for spriest

[proud marlin]

should i incorporate execute into rotation or delete from bars

[cerulean tusk]

Do you play Col or Thane?

[proud marlin]

thane

fels like it hits like a noodle

[cerulean tusk]

Ye, you can keep it on your bars for ST

It does, but it hits harder than your other wet noodle

For Col, it just ded

[lusty grotto]

you only use it in pure ST, like cat said

[proud marlin]

ty guys

[lusty grotto]

if you dont mind optimizing

you can just remove it, youll lose a bit of dps but whatever

until they buff it again

[undone beacon]

[cerulean tusk]

To do that, first they got to power buff our apex

[toxic pewter]

just survived heroic enrange dive from Chimerous

shield walled and used 50% dr trinket

survived with 20% hp

[lusty grotto]

but they just did...

[toxic pewter]

i survived it and the prot paladin didnt somehow and we got the kill

[cerulean tusk]

proof?

[lusty grotto]

wdym

10% damage to everything + 10% more damage after using tclap...

[cerulean tusk]

10% was aura buff tho

[lusty grotto]

the proof is in the patch notes or just by reading the apex

[cerulean tusk]

Wdum

[lusty grotto]

no it wasnt

it was a straight 10%

[cerulean tusk]

Why did they note it so weirdly in the notes then

[lusty grotto]

because its blizzard lol

[cerulean tusk]

Fair enuff

[outer willow]

Alright. I'm back with confusion.

Is spellbreaker a perma embellish?

[lusty grotto]

yes

you cant remove it

and you cant put a different embelish there

that's the "perma" in perma embelish

permanent

[toxic pewter]

wait mine is different so that means he put in a reagent embellishment

[outer willow]

Thats right

I purposefully put that in

[lusty grotto]

ok then its not a perma embelish

what are these names lol

[toxic pewter]

yah i didnt realize either

[outer willow]

THIS is a perma embellish

right?

[lusty grotto]

then you lost nothing

yea

that one is for sure

[outer willow]

PHEW

[lusty grotto]

and the shield

the one you dont want to craft

[outer willow]

Alright. I am vindicated.

Also, @lusty grotto I ran nexus and stood in the circles

IT worked perfectly.

destroyed them

[lusty grotto]

my mistake though, i just dont have the names learned well

[outer willow]

No worries, literally 0 harm done

[lusty grotto]

in both DF and TWW, the pieces you non-perma embelishment pieces, the ones you actually wanted to craft, all had the same name

everforged something were the ones in TWW

[outer willow]

And thats true here. They have the same name. I woudl have went for that

But the spellbreaker shit

thats weird naming

So then wait, that means you didnt waste shit?

[toxic pewter]

nah i def did waste 80 champion crests

[outer willow]

hahahaha damn ok RIP.

[toxic pewter]

i did some dumb upgrading of a weapon

meh ill be all hero/myth next week anyway

[outer willow]

exactly

[daring marlin]

180 hero crests

[sharp gale]

Wdym ? I spent all my champ crests today

We replace everything champ next week

[toxic pewter]

basically i had a 259 crafted sword and got a champion like 1/6 sword drop and for some reason i upgraded the drop to 6/6

not sure why I did it

not sure what i did

[sharp gale]

Was it not free ?

[toxic pewter]

well

not that i remember

cuz my shield also crafted?

not sure what the deal was

[sharp gale]

How much champ crests do you have ?

[toxic pewter]

oshit didnt realzie each raid has its own aotc

[sharp gale]

I had 410 before spending

[toxic pewter]

so like i still gotta collect 146 champ

from dungeons and crap

[sharp gale]

So 170

[toxic pewter]

yah spent other 230 on upgrades and stuff

[sharp gale]

So basically you spent 80x 3

[toxic pewter]

ya about that

[sharp gale]

If you can follow what you upgraded, maybe it was free

[toxic pewter]

hmmm

I think I get wat u mean

will see where it all ends up i guess

[sharp gale]

If you have 80x4 worth of upgrades on your champ items, you know what that mean

[toxic pewter]

hmmm I see what you mean

[tribal wharf]

time to upgrade monk

[hardy snow]

im missing 1 hero crest from upgrading this weapon

[tribal wharf]

im not entirely sure how you guys got hero crest

my guess is heroic raid, nightmare hunt

[hardy snow]

yea, those and also ?? delve boss

and delve trove from 8+, that gives hero item and some crests

[coarse bay]

Bigly, did u throw crests at them?

[hardy snow]

yea

full on shield, rest on weapon

still can get one more crest XD

[coarse bay]

Big and strong, im recruiting a m0 tank

[solid sun]

I'm about to do m0s

[sharp gale]

My plate stack was perfect yesterday I’m done with m0s

[coarse bay]

Im about to sleep but like i said i should have time on weekend

[solid sun]

mount!

[outer willow]

YEEE

[coarse bay]

Yoooo grats

[solid sun]

ty

[carmine frigate]

Is the two dragons encounter bugged atm? Our tank debuffs are just not showing at all

[lusty grotto]

they were showing last night

[torn gulch]

i got level 2 delves and i got 40 hero from 4 delves in addition to another 40 hero from the actual delves

plus nightmare delves

[outer willow]

sounds like I need to delve

[torn gulch]

i ended up with 180 hero crests this week

[outer willow]

it's easy as prot right?

[torn gulch]

next week i'll have 300

fairly easy but long

[outer willow]

ugh

[torn gulch]

20 min per delve

[outer willow]

oh thats not horrible

[torn gulch]

they have a lot of hp

next week we'll end up with 300 hero and 250 myth

[tribal wharf]

monk weapon first try lol

[lusty grotto]

finally i get to replace the adventurer 1h

i cant believe it

[tribal wharf]

gz

[lusty grotto]

good night sweet prince

[daring marlin]

very good

[indigo crane]

is Radiant Foil, the set sword currently bugged on Raidbots? it says "Torment's Duality: Damage increase to Radiant Foil per purified Void Tear is assumed to be added to the base damage before multipliers." but i am not wearing the complete set. Got it on hero tier in a delve.

[lusty grotto]

hmm

i can check in a few

do you have the log?

sorry

the sim

or can you sim it with a quick sim and i can check and report to SimC

[indigo crane]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2ViYZC6gCJ4ZzSnPCbAznF

[lusty grotto]

can you quick sim it?

[indigo crane]

yeah

want me to only sim the weapons then maybe its better

need some mins

in queue

not sure if this is correct. there u go

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sQwYNXPvYxTLU4dz5qvaKj

[lusty grotto]

1 sec

[lusty grotto]

also btw

use your higher ilvl shield

raidbots does not sim block

always ilvl > all on shields

im checking hold on, had to deal with dinner

its doing expected damage

the message is just a warning

[indigo crane]

oh thats crazy that the haste/crit weapon then is doing so much less dps with same ilvl than the hero one.

[lusty grotto]

well sure but radiant foil is adding to it

[indigo crane]

which one do u mean? i dont have any of those yet i simmed. just checking which one is my currently BiS from the mythics

[lusty grotto]

ah i see

i thought you were comparing from bags

[indigo crane]

hehe no. but thank u for ur help 🙂

[lusty grotto]

its not doing a lot more

[indigo crane]

i didnt check my damage meter yet to see if theres a proc though. it only ready like it shouldnt be proccing

[outer willow]

Theres a CAST time on this??

Ugh

[lusty grotto]

yes

[outer willow]

I'll make it work

[lusty grotto]

but its giga mastery so its great damage

its not as bad as the first iteration of that trinket

[outer willow]

what was it before?

[indigo crane]

on this one i was losing 100 dps with the other sword though

[lusty grotto]

the cast was longer

100 dps is not a lot

[outer willow]

ahhhh

[lusty grotto]

its barely 0.5% dps difference

[lusty grotto]

yup its not a lot

its just the proc

[indigo crane]

yeah sure. but it sums up. so does the "sidegrade function" not work yet? or is it gone? edit: just saw its still there

[sharp gale]

If the number is blue it’s not that big diff of an upgrade

[lusty grotto]

if its blue its within error margin

its not a big deal, crafted weapon with myth crests will flatten both of those

obviously you will use radiant

my point was that the diffy isnt big

[indigo crane]

so guess sidegrade is only if the item itself compared to the other is around <=2% difference

[lusty grotto]

correct

[daring marlin]

@toxic pewter

[lusty grotto]

gzgz

[daring marlin]

can't wait to craft 2h next week

[toxic pewter]

damn that badass as hell

crap loot dropped on mine

gratz tho that is a sick trinket

[daring marlin]

I straight up rolled 100

all my bad luck paid off

[toxic pewter]

it was meant to be

[buoyant sparrow]

What’s the fastest way to level an alt? Delve spam?

[barren vortex]

yes

can do shadowkeep in vs rn

pull elites then leave delve macro

is there a faq for prot anywhere or just go wowhead/iv?

[undone beacon]

#protection-faq

[barren vortex]

goat ty

[lusty grotto]

nah

not delve

download follow the arrow

the addon

and literally follow the arrow

[buoyant sparrow]

Oh. Ok. Didn’t know that was a thing. Thanks

[coarse bay]

As a tank dungeon spam isnt bad if u want to break it up. Definitely slower than the arrow though

[undone beacon]

cringe ass nae nae addon smh

[lusty grotto]

i mean you dont have to download it

but i hope you have good memory to follow his speed run 🙂

[coarse bay]

I dumb.

[lusty grotto]

arrow following it is

[coarse bay]

Is that the 3 hour route

[lusty grotto]

2hr, but it takes longer for mere mortals

it took me like 4hrs on average but i take breaks

[coarse bay]

I did half my characters in dung spam but i dont want to do that anymore when i level next

Ya id be chill with it too

[daring marlin]

dungeon spam feels so slowwwwww

[coarse bay]

I heard about that plan but i didnt wanna follow some guide

[lusty grotto]

dungeon spam is stupid slow

[coarse bay]

But arrow fixes that

No more read

[lusty grotto]

you do have to read

a lil bit

[coarse bay]

[lusty grotto]

its in the addon its nw

[coarse bay]

Ya ill download it so i dont forget

Eventually ill have to level some more

I left my druid, bdk, and vdh behind for now

[tribal wharf]

looked at aprils calender and thought we were on monday 19th already

was wtf damn monday come fast

[undone beacon]

dude no fucking cloth tier is dropping

just killed salad and NOTHIN

@daring marlin Which is harder dragons or chimeraus

[coarse bay]

Dragons probably

[lusty grotto]

i havent done heroic dragons yet but

normal dragons def harder than normal chimearus

[undone beacon]

Yeah we'e looking at dragons rn

I wanna go to chimearus but

we're gonna die to dragons for a bit

also no fucking cloth is dropping man game hates me

[lusty grotto]

@dusky canopy

[undone beacon]

@dusky canopy

[lusty grotto]

this u?

LOL

[undone beacon]

holy shit is that brew

[lusty grotto]

fr

[undone beacon]

also humble brag but people in my guild are asking me why im not raid leading anymore

they miss my sweet succulent voice

[lusty grotto]

the only answer is "i just wanna vibe"

but also "because fuck you that's why"

duality of man

or bear

[undone beacon]

I just say "Nexus King broke me"

[daring marlin]

prove it

[undone beacon]

I'll find our nexus kill video where the light had been drained from my eyes and i sounded like i was ready to kill people

give me a bit

[daring marlin]

lmaoooooooooo

[dusky canopy]

that is not me

kek

poser

[undone beacon]

[ivory barn]

if I wanted these last 50 points, would shield or 1H be first for prot after my 2H LOL

I guess I can R5 a 1H too so I'll just yeet 50 points into shields

[polar atlas]

What are u guys doing to track Violent Outburst?

[lusty grotto]

nothing

you cant use it on TC anymore

so you dont even have to track it if you dont want to

[polar atlas]

oh yeaaa

well im dum

[undone beacon]

nah you're good

[polar atlas]

So what's there to track

Just the fights now?

[mighty valley]

Sb uptime

[polar atlas]

[mighty valley]

I still have outburst on my buff trackers, just the icon

Kinda helpful to know when the rage burst is coming

But yeah it doesn’t change what buttons you press really

[undone beacon]

the best part about being a priest is i dont have any fuckin utility so i cant be assigned to shit

im just here vibin

[lusty grotto]

rage + SB

thats it

does anyone know if scott is playing this RWF?

why is shak tanking on this split running rn?

i havent watched any stream on this race until now

[solid sun]

fury is hard

idc what anyone says

i also have not tuned into the RWF

[lusty grotto]

[solid sun]

Is liquid cranking through some splits

[lusty grotto]

theres nothing else to do this week anyway

for them i mean

[solid sun]

Maybe they finished so fast they're just doing stream games or smth

[fallen gazelle]

is anyone having issues with taunt getting ignored by raid bosses and going on cd? happened nearly every fight in voidspire

[lusty grotto]

are you and your tank triggering the taunt DR?

did you check logs?

because i havent heard of issues with it

nor did i have any yesterday

[fallen gazelle]

not yet. it was happening on first taunts on adds, so shouldn't have been dr'd

[lusty grotto]

hmm

still worth checking on logs

[solid sun]

I've seen two tanks get knocked over the wall or smth on voidzilla. We're having fun

[lusty grotto]

ah nvm

they have 2 split groups, scott is in one, and yipz in the other

i just forgot about that detial

[fallen gazelle]

person who normally logs is out and backup hasn't uploaded them yet

so I'll check logs later, but it was consistent and random

[lusty grotto]

was it any boss or one in particular?

[fallen gazelle]

it happened on first boss, double dragons, alleria, the light trio

was happening to my co tank too

[lusty grotto]

normal or heroic?

[fallen gazelle]

normal for most, heroic for first boss

[lusty grotto]

and this was tonight?

[fallen gazelle]

and tuesday, but yet

[lusty grotto]

yeah i had no issues on normal last night

seems odd tbh

ill let you know if anyone else comes up with the issue

just hasnt been asked about at all since tuesday

[fallen gazelle]

appreciate it. I'm just grasping for reasoning

[opal ledge]

is there a way to get Delver's Bounty Map guarantee?

[sacred urchin]

As far as I know 2 actually

[lusty grotto]

buy the boss summoning item for 4k undercoins

[sacred urchin]

One from nightmare prey, one guaranteed if the delve nemsis spawns

[lusty grotto]

yeah nightmare prey is the other one

[fallen gazelle]

got logs posted. it's not showing any doubled casts. so the "Ignored" ones aren't showing up as casts at all

so something is letting me and my co tank cast taunt enough for it to be on CD, but not be cast

[lusty grotto]

very strange

ill let you know if it comes up

[lusty grotto]

discord voice fucking up for you guys too?

[fresh kernel]

hey prot bros, is this a nerf?

[lusty grotto]

thats pvp

we dont pvp here

go #pvp

[pastel summit]

It shouldn't do anything.

Last Stand is no longer a CD but a heal when you press wall.

[lusty grotto]

its a pvp talent

this is a pve channel

[pastel summit]

Basically just rewording the description to make sense.

[lusty grotto]

if youre reading the datamine, its just applying tuesday's live tuning to the 12.0.5 PTR

[opal ledge]

any big changes on tanking the first 3 bosses from normal to heroic?

[undone beacon]

They hit harder

[opal ledge]

ah that should be only a problem in my prot paladin xD
warriors take no damage

[undone beacon]

The only thing really is that on first boss, adds must be tanked away from the boss

Or they both go immune

[steady tinsel]

is there any way to track shield block uptime other than logs now?

[undone beacon]

The in game Cooldown Manager can let you track the buff, otherwise logs are the only way to see proper uptime %s over the course of a dungeon or encounter

[mighty valley]

same as it ever was

[pastel sleet]

since plater imports are no longer doing the heavy lifting for me. does anyone have a spreadsheet or link to prio interrupts in these dungeons. im doing some prep for next week.

[frank bobcat]

i just had INSANE luck, im pretty sure this is the single best thing i could have gotten out of my heroic delve chest

[small garden]

niceeee

[hardy snow]

[next star]

yoo bois, should i choose fury or arms for my delve loot?

i want a shield bad, but i feel like there are so many trash tanking trinkets

[hardy snow]

as Fury you can get 1h weapon

[vale escarp]

If you still need a weapon for Prot go fury

If not go arms

[next star]

tyvm

did you guys craft anything yet?

[jade pulsar]

259 weapon and shield, will upgrade weapon first with mythic crests next week

[granite briar]

There a reason Bloodmallet doesn't include any delve trinkets? They just all horse shit and shouldn't even be considered?

[jagged pier]

just sim your self

dont follow bloodmallet

[granite briar]

Cool thanks

trust the sim tyvm

[jagged pier]

thats literally what bloodmallet does

but with not all trinkets

[granite briar]

yeah, I just was wondering why some weren't included

I would have assumed that would be the whole point of Bloodmallet, to see what trinkets are simming best but then they don't sim em all

but I guess simming is so personal so

[echo egret]

How do you keep track of your co-tank's debuffs+stacks when the default raid frames don't consistently show them ?

[cerulean tusk]

Put your cotank as focus target, will allow you to see all that blizz wants you to see

[echo egret]

okay, so Focus = works properly but raid UI = buggy shit ?

[cerulean tusk]

Probably? I always used focus target

[errant wagon]

been asking around and can't find someone who knows how to fix this 🙁
I'm using better timeline tool + bigwigs addons.
My timeline tool text is getting jumbled where it's getting two different text descriptors layered on top of each other. I know it's bigwigs doing the secondary text, because disabling it makes it go away. Bigwigs is just doing simplified text like 'adds', 'soak', etc.

[echo egret]

I just couldn't see the stacks on him during Salhadaar encounter.
Some people could see both for me and him, some others could see nothing

[pastel geyser]

does anyone know which setting in dbm controls where the stacks of mechanics are shown on screen? they are nearly dead middle for me and its kinda pissing me off D:

[coral quartz]

Guys bit unrelated but I’m wondering if anyone else has encountered this.

I have a 6/6 champion wep currently and I got a heroic from a delve last night. I know you aren’t meant to upgrade a 1/6 heroic if you can without a 6/6 champion which I have but when I go to upgrade the heroic item from 1/6 it’s still asking for heroic crests

[coarse bay]

weird, it should work. But also, spending any Heroic+ crests on a wep if you plan on crafting a wep is kind of a waste of crests

Maybe you could send a blizz support ticket as the discount should work

[noble cove]

hero track u upgrade only with hero crests , champ weapon only with champ crests

[coarse bay]

the 6/6 upgrade of a previous track is supposed to discount the 1/6->2/6 upgrades

[coral quartz]

Yeah i thought so mate i will open a ticket, thank you

[drowsy comet]

What we think of this chat

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-21343121

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dog-naughty-evil-smile-vNTIkYpoAUb22FhsVr

[mental shoal]

when will M+ start next week(EU)? after maintance? Does anyone know the time when it would roughly start?

[vocal peak]

I have seen that if you upgrade a two handed wep to max, then u have a discount unlocked for all weapon types, but if u upgrade an one hand wep, then you wont get a discount

[drowsy comet]

Wednesday

Time, Id say right in the morning

idk if theres a maintenance tbh

[noble cove]

got a warrior named biggernobber , who knows knows

[drowsy comet]

smh

i hate myself for auto correcting that..

[coarse bay]

good shout actually i forgot that part

brain fart

[vocal peak]

Happens

[dusty orchid]

One handed you need either two one handers or a shield for discount - same as with rings and trinkets

So you need a 6/6 champ shield too

[vocal peak]

Yeah, I just upgrade my two handed and free upgrades for prot weps

[coarse bay]

i just craft

[pastel geyser]

surely 2 letter changes wouldnt make it problematic

[lone turret]

Another noob question: does shield block stay active during casts like puzzle box? Or shattering throw?

[solid sun]

I’m so washed, Cam

@dusky canopy wake up I need your assistance

[jagged pier]

no

[tribal wharf]

i know someone here uses this alot

i want to say its jakey

i really dont know,, i think this is fortnite? thre is a bug bunny skin for fortnite

anyways, they did the thing

[chrome karma]

i want your opinion, what 2 trinkets do you equip if you have these 3?

Hearth of wind is obvious i guess, but what is the second one you pref

[solid sun]

Sim ‘em

[hardy snow]

vessel imo

[chrome karma]

Sim for tanks?

[solid sun]

Yeah we sim

[daring marlin]

yup

[dusky canopy]

Yo?

[chrome karma]

what is your sim setting when simmung for tanks?

[jade pulsar]

depends, what u wanna sim for

[chrome karma]

what options do you suggest? i'm a noob at simming for tanks

[solid sun]

We sim just like dps sims. As we gain more gear we gain more survivability.

[jade pulsar]

if it's for raid do it just like dps, 1 boss 5min

[solid sun]

As a disclaimer idk what those three trinkets are so if they’re all defensive trinkets I imagine a lot of us wouldn’t use them or at most would use one of them

[jade pulsar]

if its for m+ runs i usually do a 1 boss 3min and a 5 targets 40sec then kinda try to balance in between

[lofty warren]

5 min 5 target is legal if you want to sim fot m+

[chrome karma]

Ok ty all

[solid sun]

Did the first three normal bosses. 37k was my highest :(

[jade pulsar]

from a quality of life perspective ive heard the middle trinket is annoying to play with, havent tried it myself but u gotta look around and run over the things that give u the stacks

so personally i'd probably just go with heart of wind and right one (rotting globule)

[chrome karma]

yeah i was thinking the same

[noble cove]

exactly why i never play it

[noble cove]

=))))))))))))))))

[pastel geyser]

Oh fk it works like that? I was excited to get it as well last night

I saw the voidstorm renown trinket seems good to start with?

[lusty grotto]

yes the orbs can be hard to see

on that trinket

its a strong trinket but if youre not actually picking the orbs up, its not as worth

[solid sun]

My experience pugging double dragons was less than stellar

I can’t tell you how many times the entire raid got blasted by fear breaths

[lusty grotto]

thats going to be the recurring problem with them

[lofty warren]

Are the 2 extra dwelve keys given through the extended campaign quest?

[lusty grotto]

do 5 target 1:30 for m+, also @jade pulsar

not 40s

90s and 1 target 5 mins or 1 target 3 mins for raid/st

[tribal wharf]

found a bug

not that its important

20 champs instead of 10, unless its meant to be that way? the boss was lootable, and there is a chest

i'll take it though cuz its 1 garunteed crest upgrade press

[solid sun]

How biffed am I with 237 and 224 weapons

As opposed to having a couple crafted weapons without using crests

[drowsy comet]

im aging faster and faster the longer i am in dragonflight, because I want a couple of druid forms.. smh

[tribal wharf]

run m0 and LFR and normal raid

[solid sun]

You’re so old now

Idk yogi n raid was pretty embarrassing

[tribal wharf]

hell

[solid sun]

Def felt bad

[tribal wharf]

well, i went to loot something , and it was right beside the boss

[drowsy comet]

young and sexy

[tribal wharf]

so there was that

and then all i know is i wasnt in the dps meter top like 6 or whatever

and i just did what i could to attack things but it was feeble

[unreal yarrow]

You can definitely spend any adventure crests on those 224's

No reason to hold them

[drowsy comet]

just spend yo stuff

you catch up incredibly fast anyway

[solid sun]

Idk how many I even have tbh but yeah I can do that

[tribal wharf]

i was running toilet seat for chance at a neck before reset

[lofty warren]

What the heck is happening with dk? Every other day there's some buffs and nerfs happening with them

[tribal wharf]

i cant think of any garunteed veteran neck

[lusty grotto]

it was an overcorrection, so they were fixing that, thats it

[lusty grotto]

just get the champion one from amani renown

[dusky canopy]

When performing the rotation what were prio decisions you noticed pausing on to think about more?

[pastel geyser]

i like how dk just getting slap on the wrist big nerf for 1 day meanwhile fury in season 1 of tww got nerf after nerf after nerf even while being shit

dk seems to be blizz baby since tww as well

and never got any buffs for like 2 months straight

was so rough i swapped to prot

[lofty warren]

Name of housing quest that gives hero currency?

[noble cove]

should be next to liadrin in silvermoon , dont remember the name

[lofty warren]

Found it on wowhead ty. I havent made a house at all. Is it a lot of time to do the quest that gives hero currency if you are homeless?

[noble cove]

shouldnt take much tbh u just gotta buy a decoration off a vendor in the middle of the housing area

with those tickets u get by doing anything

[pastel geyser]

took me 5min, just go 'buy' a house, and do the endeavor that needs u to place 50 decor inside, i just put random shit in

go back to middle and buy 3 coupon decor done

[lofty warren]

Reacted with 👍

[tribal wharf]

ah its some sort of quest

if i even have the rep

[lusty grotto]

yes

if youre talking about the rep neck

[noble cove]

rep neck is renown 9 zulaman iirc

[lusty grotto]

dont worry

hes not reading the messages

thats his thing

[noble cove]

ah..welp...still worth typing maybe someone else reads and finds it useful

[lusty grotto]

sure ig

[noble cove]

helping always nice , gives peace of mind ig

[undone beacon]

Yogi is looking out for the lurkers methinks

[lusty grotto]

if thats your opinion, youre gonna feel bad with yogi

welcome to protection 🙂

[noble cove]

just wanna get home :))

[fluid shard]

has anyone ever had that issue where you taunt a boss during a raid tank swap and the boss just doesnt react at all? i felt like i was going insane but yesterday during our Crown of the Cosmos fight, one time we just couldn't do a swap. Alleria wouldn't jump back at me even though i looked at my bars and saw the CD for taunt going for three times...

[lusty grotto]

we had someone report something like that on first boss

last night

but

im not convinced its just not taunt DR

do you have logs?

[fluid shard]

thing is i can't see my cast in logs yeah

[lusty grotto]

he said the same thing

[fluid shard]

i'm looking at timeline and can't see a taunt for Simulacrum nor Alleria

but i had my eyes on the CD

[lusty grotto]

could you link it?

i can check

[fluid shard]

the whole 3 times

yes sec

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FyVmLrvPRgxX2QqH?fight=22&view=replay&position=210747

[tribal wharf]

thats really really easy to do

took me under 5 minutes

[lusty grotto]

yes and you can do it on alts

[fluid shard]

this one at 3:30

[lusty grotto]

there was one taunt at 3:30.998

from the bear

[fluid shard]

yep, i'm the pally

[fluid shard]

SMASHING my hand of reckoning

for 3 times

every 8 sec

like, i felt like i was getting baited

[tribal wharf]

powerful trinket

say no more

im already there

wherever it is

[lusty grotto]

hmm

[tribal wharf]

im manifest teleporting my self to that place as we speak

[fluid shard]

yup i know i'm seeing the same thing

and like my taunt is not a macro or anything, anyway maybe i AM going insane lol

[lusty grotto]

its cosmos so i highly doubt this is a problem but

who logged?

and were you far away?

did you really only cast judgment and blessed hammer?

[fluid shard]

it's a MW, i doubt he was far

[solid sun]

Ummm. I tried to stick to the 100 rage thing for rampage but truthfully if I hit like high 90s I sent it lol

I tried to hit the two blood attacks on cd. I had no idea how to use spinnyspin so I just sent it on cd. And sometimes I’d randomly press rend

[fluid shard]

do you mean, like during that gap?

[lusty grotto]

from 3:25 to 3:48 its only reporting you casted a total of two spells

judgment and blessed hammer

something is fucky with the log

it might have range issues

[fluid shard]

yep so we were on discord, i was full on focused on taunting

after the first failed

we just were like, wait what

i full on stopped and taunted 3 times following that

until we just called a wipe

[lusty grotto]

@fallen gazelle this is not unlike the case you were having last night but in Crown

tbf the guy i tagged was having it happen on other bosses, did you have it happen anywhere else than cosmos?

[fluid shard]

on dragons i got weird stuff happen but then realized they just are weird polarized magnets i guess

[lusty grotto]

i didnt have it happen at all on wednesday

which is why i default to "hey it could be taunt DR"

[fluid shard]

yeah i get it

i thought it might have been a "she's doing an ability" and immune or something

anyway, it didn't happen again

you know how they cleanly just usually jump from one tank to the other

there def was something weird there

and the fact log doesn't show it kinda irks me

[lusty grotto]

thats what worries me specifically

but hard to validate without blindly trusting you two

[fluid shard]

nah i get it, i was looking for similar experiences

[solid sun]

If y’all were commenting on YouTube videos we could trust it

:>

Now that’s a good callback

[lusty grotto]

i just wanna eliminate any DR cases and make sure its an actual thing

and/or not part of inactive taunting

etc etc

[fluid shard]

it's such a decisive taunt too

[lofty warren]

Playing mt in st feels so weird. Doing aoe stomp for max st damage

[fluid shard]

like, we're watching for stack n all

it just feels weird i would have made a mistake 4 times

being focused on looking at target to make sure etc...

[lusty grotto]

this is the last phase taunt yea?

[solid sun]

Did the other tank ever have failed taunts

[fluid shard]

because like, i was like maybe i taunted simulacrum?

[lusty grotto]

oh nvm its p2

[fluid shard]

p2 yeah

the first taunt after coming back from first intermission

actually second

i taunt simu, and then the swap to me getting alleria

is the one that failed

[lusty grotto]

well if you feel like it got solved the next time you go in, let me know - that being said i can keep a look out on more people reporting the same thing (i.e. missing taunt casts from logs etc)

[fluid shard]

of course, thanks for looking!

[lusty grotto]

ill see if i can find anything we're overlooking

[undone beacon]

Well it looks like my raid spot on the priest is secure for now, considering our other priest ragequit the guild after the first week of raid

[solid sun]

Not rajin

[dusky canopy]

During reck you rampage on cd
Followed by bloodbath
Followed by execute if you can’t do either of the above

[undone beacon]

Yeah

[lusty grotto]

Pash, Emissary of Priest

[solid sun]

Bro rajin was so cool what happened

I don’t expect you to divulge. It’s more of an exclamation of surprise

[solid sun]

Oh jeez I biffed it dude

[undone beacon]

At this point yeah

[lofty warren]

https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/protection/warrior/raid/overview/heroic/all-bosses

Archon says to use 1/4 apex for mt raid?

[dusky canopy]

Outside of reck you only ramp above 100 or to refresh enrage
Then execute then blood thirst

Don’t worry to much it’s week one raiding your mind will be taxed by seeing the bosses for the first time

Just do mechanics and press buttons

[daring marlin]

r u sure about that

sir

[undone beacon]

New tier new me

[dusky canopy]

Or be like me and die to a shadow claw on ALL FOUR KILLS

[fading dirge]

Probably a bug, cause I don’t see any additional talents taken above you don’t already have with 4 in apex

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/mane-im-dead-gif-17125533328470459107

[undone beacon]

Archon is bugged and only shows 1/4 for every spec

[dusky canopy]

Yes I’m sure about that no dps checks this week

[undone beacon]

brew are you aotc already

[dusky canopy]

Nah we raid Monday again though

[undone beacon]

How far y'all get?

[dusky canopy]

Voted for extra night

[lofty warren]

Ohh ok got it ty

[dusky canopy]

All bosses normal and heroic twice except cosmos heroic

[undone beacon]

Nice nice

[dusky canopy]

Died on vorasius every kill because I forgot to put on my helmet

[undone beacon]

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-shrug-sad-disappointed-gif-3654380992546976451

[dusky canopy]

Played Prot too much thought I was tank again smh

[solid sun]

Dude I saw three tanks get trapped behind walls on Vor

[lusty grotto]

i go in monday as well

[undone beacon]

Highkey im grappling with this right now after tanking so much, now im like shit i cant just eat mechanics

[lusty grotto]

we only did normal on wednesday

[lofty warren]

Pwar top of the tier list on murlok io let's gooo

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-fish-pogging-currently-gif-2252544987340524926

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/robert-downey-jr-eye-roll-4

[dusky canopy]

Also I tried arms on vanguard and my damn ui shut off on my main during the pull timer and I could not figure out how to turn it back on

😂

Oh also apparently didn’t have ravager bound

[lusty grotto]

why do you need ravager bound

just play whirling

[daring marlin]

Vanguard, the one fight Arms probably owns on.

[dusky canopy]

Nah I was trying out arms colossus on vanguard

[lusty grotto]

oh

[dusky canopy]

It has omega potential

[lusty grotto]

i thought you were talking prot since you said tanking

[dusky canopy]

Until they nerf cleave

[undone beacon]

Arms stays winning

[dusky canopy]

I’m going to pug vorasius this weekend to get a kill not floor pov

Maybe look for a paladins

[daring marlin]

uptime on the dreamrift trinket is funny

this thing owns

[dusky canopy]

Probably not many vanguard pugs

[undone beacon]

Big Gaze of the Alnseer guy

[dusky canopy]

You got it!?

Pog Gz

[lofty warren]

Checked the actual wcl log and it does show 4/4

[undone beacon]

Most pug groups get hardstuck dragons, if they make it that far

Even on normal lol

[undone beacon]

Yep. Just an Archon issue

[daring marlin]

In the normal I did dragon and cosmos were the only "tough" bosses

[lusty grotto]

lmaoooooooooooooooooo i wonder how many of the questions are because of this bug

[daring marlin]

Didn't bother trying heroic dragons yet

maybe later

[dusky canopy]

Watch we get some raid nerfs today since pugs struggling

[lusty grotto]

doubtful

[daring marlin]

outside of cosmos the raid seems super easy so far

[undone beacon]

Between Kira and Archon, probably most of them lol

[daring marlin]

dreamrift too

[undone beacon]

Yeah they're not too bad

[daring marlin]

he's just a sponge

[undone beacon]

My burning question is... would WAs genuinely have "solved" any of these fights

[lusty grotto]

blizzard cant be as stupid to think nerfs are needed when its skill issue problems

[daring marlin]

The amount of people just not going down is baffling to me

[lusty grotto]

at least not this version of blizzard

[daring marlin]

HELLO SIR YOU DIDN'T GO DOWN TWICE IN A ROW "i'm gay" actual response someone gave

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-fall-and-back-gif-25193110

[undone beacon]

Unrelated but they took away Explosive Shot from hunters just to give it back in the first .5 patch

[lusty grotto]

if anything they make markers more noticeable like idk fear breath or some shit

[undone beacon]

The amount of people that just send fear breath into the raid is baffling

[lusty grotto]

theyre used to being told what to do

[undone beacon]

Our raid lead also thought we wouldnt get to heroic dragons so quickly so he wasnt prepared with the callouts

[lusty grotto]

horn goes off, etc

[daring marlin]

What a silly. First three are such gimme bosses.

Vor legit has 2 mechanics, Sala too

[dusky canopy]

Dragons is literally just don’t fear the raid and you win

The rest is pretty easy

I guess tanks gotta shoot orbs smart

[undone beacon]

Yep. But I handed off the reins so I'm not gonna fill in for his shortcomings. Call it a learning moment for him

[sharp gale]

Yeah it was not that bad, you just have to be topped for every add drop

[undone beacon]

I'm just a vibe priest now

I hate those stupid chud void orb adds

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaa-hola-como-andy-martino-dance-gif-18551524

Pash POV

[undone beacon]

Literally

Honestly is kinda nice

[sharp gale]

I didn’t care about them for my dps tbf and still did 93

[undone beacon]

Yeah I've learned that if an add doesnt live for at least 12 seconds its not worth touching them as shadow

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

My guild is chalk full of hungry aoers

[undone beacon]

We have a bunch of DHs and Rets so they just slurp that shit up

[sharp gale]

I guess you need to be more focused to being constantly cleaving on the two dragon ? Idk if shadow is still that kind of spec

[undone beacon]

3 UDKs too

[undone beacon]

Yeah more or less. Psychic link sucks right now tho

[solid sun]

Out group I was in handled salad and first boss as one shots and then the tanks kept dying or getting locked behind walls on vor

They had no chance on dragons

And that’s just N

[lusty grotto]

vor is such an easy fight

[solid sun]

I got blasted by so many fear breaths

[lusty grotto]

how could you fuck that up lol

[dusky canopy]

Vor is so easy I’m actually so trash for having died to the shadow claw every kill lmao

Tunnel brain

[lofty warren]

That brew monk statue just seems like a worst version of aoe taunt that pwar has. Change my mind

[sharp gale]

Entire raid got feared twice on our normal kill

[undone beacon]

Our problem with Vor was dragging 30 people through it on H

Only took like 3 pulls tho

[dusky canopy]

Actually us too!

LOL

[lusty grotto]

well yeah it does look like its more of a pain with larger group sizes

vor, i mean

[undone beacon]

Yeah, its a bit less chill but

Wasn't bad by any means

Also priest defensives man, priest defensives

[sharp gale]

I hope we gonna drop our lootbody ppl next raid day bc I want to actually kill crown ngl

[solid sun]

N Salad’har was a snooze fest

[dusky canopy]

Goodluck

[solid sun]

The first boss was neat

[dusky canopy]

21 guilds have killed heroic crown as of last night

[undone beacon]

I would know, I was 21 guilds

Turbo splits on 21 priests frfrong

[dusky canopy]

Hard to say if we kill or not I think the idea is more so to go in and get progression on it

[sharp gale]

I have seen a little bit of p2 with my group, I don’t think it is that bad

It’s more 21 guild killed it bc it was their third raid night so it was at the end prog

For second raid night guild, it was at the end of their raid, they just started to prog crown

[kind urchin]

Guys... Chuck Norris beat life and decided to go win in the afterlife.

[daring marlin]

Damn. Rip

[undone beacon]

[dusky canopy]

Damn rest in peace legend

[coarse bay]

[undone beacon]

Cam are you playing your bear this season

[coarse bay]

Probably not im thinking about being kinda casual and dropping down my alts for this season

[undone beacon]

Thats fair enough yeah

[coarse bay]

Maybe later in the season when less is going on

Kinda overwhelming rn

[undone beacon]

Understandable!

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[undone beacon]

Honestly I wish i was raiding on my surv

surv is fun

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[sharp gale]

Don’t regret being a stinky shadow priest, be proud

[coarse bay]

I tried leveling my priest as shadow

And logged out

[cerulean tusk]

Level as disco

[coarse bay]

Its hard because im not feeling tank this season

Thats prob the main reason why ill drop back on alts

[undone beacon]

Shadow is fun but like, im just not used to it. I didn't have a max level priest until Lemix, and now its my prog class lol

[coarse bay]

Ya and its punishing too

[sharp gale]

Manaforge was my tank break

[warm plinth]

Hello please stop yelling

[coarse bay]

Ill probably keep 1-2 tanks out of necessity but no more playing all of them each season

[coarse bay]

Hello sorry

[undone beacon]

All the raid builds use Invoked Nightmares but i keep forgetting to refresh SWP so im back to misery cuz im learning

I'm keeping my prot warr and bear rolling

[warm plinth]

Please ensure complete silence in Barrens chat for the remainder of the day.

[sharp gale]

Im still in a ????? to what is my second class

[coarse bay]

Im very stuck on who to choose too

[sharp gale]

I don’t like dev dh it seems way too hard on the brain for the actual rotation

[coarse bay]

Ive been enjoying ele and rogue for a 2nd dps

And im thinking brew/pwar or pwar/hpal

Might do ele so that i have a dps for alt raids

Rogue is fun but too niche to have casually

[sharp gale]

I will not level another char so, maybe I’m a boomie guy

[coarse bay]

Never done boomie tbh

Only done bear for druid

I pretty much havent touched dps specs of any tank class except ret

[ivory barn]

Skyreach, why did they make the wind less toxic

[undone beacon]

surv hunter

[undone beacon]

surv hunter

[ivory barn]

And the warrior leap in that place is fixed

[sharp gale]

I used to play rogue/hunt but it’s not the shit I’m looking for

[undone beacon]

Y'all wanna see a funny clip from our dreamrift pulls last night

[sharp gale]

lol

[ivory barn]

LMAO, it said duck you I'm out of here

[coarse bay]

[undone beacon]

Tank got knocked off with the buster, but landed on a root. Turns out you can reset the boss

[ivory barn]

Just get kicked off the platform

Tanked a M0 last night, let's just say Skyreach first pull was ... Juicy

[undone beacon]

I've barely tanked this week cuz i was getting the priest situated but this weekend imma go full champ on the warr

[ivory barn]

I'm 244 prot/242 fury, the RL has priorities weird LOL

[solid sun]

Chuck Norris passed away

:(

[daring marlin]

wtf is a sanctified banner

[solid sun]

It’s a banner from church

[solid sun]

Probably has a cross on it

[tribal wharf]

basicl ilvl bait trinket for hold til better?

[lusty grotto]

its good

[tribal wharf]

oh

[lusty grotto]

youre late by 1 week

[tribal wharf]

GG

[solid sun]

I just learned about that trinket yesterday 😂

[tribal wharf]

games over

i should unistall now

[pastel summit]

i log in and get grabbed for 0s til i get dizzy cos i forgot to eat

not sure if i survive next week

gonna burn out on a dungeon pool faster than ever before

[pastel summit]

nah its a decent piece

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

Luckily this season we have an overabundance of tanks so I'm not forever trapped in tank bitch hell

[ivory barn]

I logged into my warlock for 45m, went back to my warrior

They deleted destro ruination

[pastel summit]

chu lookin at rattos

[pastel summit]

yeah lot of people tankin but no healers it feels

[lusty grotto]

im looking at my echo

who may or not know hes replying to yogi

[pastel summit]

i see

[daring marlin]

robot buff owns in delves

[lofty warren]

At how many targets should aoe rotation be used instead of st?

[lusty grotto]

5

[lofty warren]

Oh my gosh I've been pressing thunder stomp over ss at 3 targets

[lusty grotto]

um

what does it matter, you will press it anyway

[lofty warren]

Aoe rotation says aoe stomp > ss and in st it is ss > stomp

[lusty grotto]

what aoe rotation

its always the same TB > SS > TC

[lofty warren]

St

[lusty grotto]

its a priority pepega

its not a rotation

[lofty warren]

Aoe

[lusty grotto]

it means you press shit when it comes up as a priority

youre not supposed to hard follow it, there's conditions

[dusky canopy]

Make sure you do 1-9 in order perfectly

[lusty grotto]

shit being up for example

[lofty warren]

Ok sure priority. But st priority is is not the same as aoe prioriryy

[lusty grotto]

im not sure why you overthink these things

[ivory barn]

It's a light up spec, just press what lights up

[lusty grotto]

+1 for rotation bot

every day i get closer

[ivory barn]

Just use the 1 button rotation blizzard added

[lofty warren]

Is the following true? If you have 5 + targets then you should press tb instead of ss when both are up.

If less than 5 then you should press ss instead of tb when both are up

[lusty grotto]

you always press TB over SS

on any target count

...

why am i answering questions from TWW S1

[lofty warren]

Why does icy veins have it higher up on st priority?

[ivory barn]

It's a guide, not a ritual

[lusty grotto]

because pepega

as it turns out

TB IS NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE

[lofty warren]

Thats why it is called a prioriry list. The lower the number the higher the priority. So if tb > ss is true on all target counts then it shluld be lower number??

[ivory barn]

And proccing 6 SS's in a row is fucking historical

[pastel summit]

when was the last time anything really had a "rotation"

cos i see the "its a priority not a rotation" thing for like 2 decades i feel

when priority is sort of what people generally mean by rotation

[mint shadow]

ww monk maybe kinda

[lusty grotto]

only rotation botters ask these questions

[pastel summit]

?

[ivory barn]

That's like the only exception because of its mastery

[lusty grotto]

the strict rotation questions

[lofty warren]

Only ppl that want to push the correct buttons want to know the correct rotation 🙁

[undone beacon]

This is why its called Single Button Assistant and not One Button Rotation

[pastel summit]

i was pokin around for strict rotational stuff for pve output reasons last seas

cos i usually just sort of go off feel

[lofty warren]

I thought icy veins was the reliable pwar guide

[ivory barn]

I wonder what would happen if I just pressed that button for all of raid

[lusty grotto]

and yet youve asked the same priority questions every season for the last 3 expansions

[pastel summit]

where craft unity

[lusty grotto]

always accompanied with screenshots of whatever guide is up

[lofty warren]

Well clearly there's a reason since what you are telling me is different from the guide

[lusty grotto]

you either have 0 retention

[sharp gale]

Tbf I call it a priority based rotation, in opposition with sequences based rotations

[lusty grotto]

or youre a botter

[lofty warren]

Stuff changes between xpac and even between parches

[pastel summit]

eh i feel like its pretty common

funny how it doesnt change sometimes tho

for years

[ivory barn]

Not enough to warrant a need to switch everything

[lusty grotto]

and yet we've told you that it hasnt for 3 expansions and 4 to 3 seasons each

the only recent change has been execute usage

thats it

DF was the same as Midnight, TWW had more broad execute use

[ivory barn]

War execute hits like a limp noodle anyway

[lusty grotto]

just like in DF

hence "DF was the same as Midnight"

but thats beside the point

[ivory barn]

I was agreeing with you 😭

[undone beacon]

Pepega's got Nim fired up

[sharp gale]

Can’t write Nim fired up without imfiredup

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-fury-movie-shoot-that-guy-gif-8829002926137263043

[lofty warren]

Its even worse if "nothing has changed" and its been wrong for all this time

[dusky canopy]

Nimfiredup

[jagged pier]

Nims always riled up

[ivory barn]

It's like asking fury how raging/crushing blow works, "just take it off of the bar"

[pastel summit]

ya inted my dmg for a min til i realized that

[lusty grotto]

go into the search bar

and type from:pepega6 has:image

count the times hes posted a screenshot of a priority list in chat

might be less than the tier list posts, but youll see

[coarse bay]

[lofty warren]

Also look at wowhead rotation from tww. https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/the-war-within-guide

In it there is ss two times on priority list but current guides dont differentiate. Couldn't find tww guide where tb is in rotation but that page may have been taken down

[coarse bay]

How many times has everyone here said that wowhead isnt endorsed here though

[lofty warren]

Also we dont press execute now

[lofty warren]

Tww wowhead was written by guy who ia trustworthy

[coarse bay]

Midnight guide is written by somebody filling in, and while a high ranking tank isnt a warrior main

[sharp gale]

It still has roar smh

[lofty warren]

Tww is different from midnight. They have different letters

[coarse bay]

U said tww midnight

Before editing

[lofty warren]

Ur right I messed up and fixed

[coarse bay]

Are you talking about the violent outburst usage?

[lofty warren]

Look im not trying to get into a big historical argument. I just want to know for midnight: if I have tb and ss available should I always pressed tb over ss regardless of target count?

If target count matters, then what number of targets

[ivory barn]

TB>SS all scenarios is what I do

[toxic pewter]

Midnight better than the war within

[ivory barn]

That button and SC trucks shit

[toxic pewter]

Midnight owns hard

[daring marlin]

midnight fun

[round pendant]

You guys are a disappointment

[round pendant]

You're supposed to hate the game like me!!

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-me-trying-to-find-who-asked-spongebob-spunch-bob-gif-22526294

[coarse bay]

St you prio ss, aoe you prio tb, it says it on the guide

[lofty warren]

Yes i see that but nimchomp said tb > ss in all target counts (which is diff from iv)

[ivory barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480150567268909077/1234524411626000545/image0.gif

[sharp gale]

i will love the game even harder now

[round pendant]

😔

[daring marlin]

nimchomp

[sharp gale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-angry-mad-cat-meme-gif-17719456655395931550

[coarse bay]

I thought it was ss in st but id trust nim

[round pendant]

I only love one thing: my wife Pash

[lofty warren]

Who is more trustworthy? Icy veins or nim? Or literally anyone else. I just want to correct answer

[lusty grotto]

it makes no difference cam

you never wanna overcap TBs, you never want to be in a position where you dont want a burst proc

youre always pressing one of those 2

[coarse bay]

Ya 2 charge tb is prio?

[tribal wharf]

978 haste

[ivory barn]

Does rotation truly matter if you're having fun?

[sharp gale]

#deleteRend

[lusty grotto]

there is no situation where you just hold one over the other