protection

[ivory barn]

You can't use vet on the sparked pieces can you?

[jagged pier]

Nopers

[lusty grotto]

Pretty sure you can but I could be wrong

[jagged pier]

From what i saw yesterday u cant

Emblishments can go on anything tho (i think)

[lusty grotto]

@frail prawn then use no crests

[ivory barn]

Oh ok, according to Rio I am the 4th lowest geared person in our 22 man team

[tribal wharf]

not a huge deal bu someone was very clearly tired at work when they wrote it and listed veteran dawncrest twice

[deep steppe]

Does Sense have a new Block/Reflect Sheet for this xpac?

[jagged pier]

Its on maxroll now

[wicked stirrup]

was just about to ask lol

https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide

seems like its still a bit of work in progress

[tribal wharf]

still bad?

last i knew of it was bad

[mighty valley]

depends on what else you have

[ivory barn]

O.o AA puzzle box is back

[mighty valley]

and whether or not you actually press the button

[tribal wharf]

last i knew its you use it 2 or 3 balls appear

and you run at them to kick them in los

and you can miss it

the fury got it in my group

and i guess he thinks i can use it

[jagged pier]

Flat damage trinekts are bad

I would sim

But u really want the other one apprentl

[ivory barn]

Wait can you still SR Craw boss in AA

[undone beacon]

Sorry real quick someone clarify for me why its not worth doing delves above tier 8 this week

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-laugh-crazy-car-gif-22580177

[ivory barn]

Vault maybe

[undone beacon]

I dont want a maybe i want a straight answer lol

Before I blow all my keys on 8s

[tribal wharf]

im gunna attempt m0 wt of 2h having dungeons

6 of them drop one, 1 down

[dusky canopy]

Max gear reward from delves is T8

Use your keys and map on tier 8

[undone beacon]

Max crest rewards too for now?

[dusky canopy]

Uh idk about the T11 myth crests

[undone beacon]

T11 myth crests are at delvers journey rank 4

So not yet

[dusky canopy]

Yeah so just do 8s

[undone beacon]

People in my guild fighting me about it so im making sure im not gaslighting myself

[dusky canopy]

You can get a guaranteed beacon from the 3 nightmare preys weekly quest

Nah you’re not T8 is good

Link them the L!rias guide

[dusky canopy]

And point and laugh

[undone beacon]

trueeee

[lusty grotto]

Wth

[undone beacon]

wait nim that was so true

put it back

[lusty grotto]

I was looking for an office gif

[undone beacon]

digging for gold and found platinum

[lusty grotto]

I can't find it

https://tenor.com/view/drewism-drewisme-getting-into-work-work-work-afer-getting-into-work-gif-21993638

Found a better one

[cold zealot]

Did they change it, so that fury cant roll on 1 hand anymore?
That qould imply that fury lootspec at vault cant roll 1 hand anymore either.

[lusty grotto]

Yes

[undone beacon]

Correct

[lusty grotto]

Fury cannot get 1 handers

[cold zealot]

might edit/delete the pinned message then

[lusty grotto]

Yeah we've mentioned it

[cold zealot]

👍

Sorry, search didnt give me the info.

[lusty grotto]

@ionic fern edit nome's vault pin, fury can't get 1handers anymore, we asked him to edit his message but said he can't for some reason

[lone turret]

Noob question, is anything lost by just slamming both charges of shield block?

[undone beacon]

Shield block uptime

[lone turret]

But the duration stacks fully?

[undone beacon]

It doesnt

Hitting both shield blocks at the same time gives you 14 seconds of shield block

[tribal wharf]

0's as a daily is nice

[lone turret]

This is why I should check before I ask, thanks

[undone beacon]

[oblique quarry]

I tried the delve boss at ?? and it feels very underwhelming compared to last season. I did die at 5% on my first pull and 1% on my second pull and then had to go to bed. The caster at the end seems to hit me just hard enough to make the tank buster one tap me if they overlap and I run out of shield wall charges. I am guessing I need to just prio the add to win the fight ( was focusing boss and trying to cleave the adds)

any tips for that last add? I know its not complicated but thought I would ask.

[undone beacon]

Save lust for coming out of third intermission and cleave add down

Boss starts ramping in damage after third intermission

[oblique quarry]

lol, i did no consumes - i suppose that would do it

[undone beacon]

sub 5% pulls... no consumes.... yep

But you're correct, is is very underwhelming compared to ky'veza

[oblique quarry]

I guess I should stop being cheap

[undone beacon]

Gold is plentiful

[oblique quarry]

I have really enjoyed all the other delve bosses but this one was more boring than anything. that health pool size with 0 noticably hard mechanics is a big miss for me

[vocal junco]

Hot damn! I’ve been sending both blocks and the charge to not have to think about it during a pull.

[undone beacon]

Its certainly not an advisable habit but its one a lot of people do

[plush tendon]

you can also get some cheeky wrecking throw interrupts

on the add

[undone beacon]

yeah on the add specifically

Cant wrecking throw the boss to int

[oblique quarry]

god i love that javilineer talent

[undone beacon]

It is a very nice new tool in our kit

[toxic gyro]

I did at like 241 ilvl yesterday. Just have valeera set to healer. You reflect devouring essence, and defensive as many tank busters as possible and don’t forget to often use IV. Also play all healing talents. Took me like 11min to kill it but it was extremely easy and kinda boring tbh.

Last add I ignored once boss was back. I also didn’t lust bc I forgot to buy drums

[outer willow]

Hi fellow prots.

Nexus Point X - First few pulls after going left.

How are you handling the heal absorb? I would just rely on my healer but after like 5 stacks, the armor melt and the heal absorb is a lot.

I’ve found that if I VR when the stacks are low, I can clear it. Is there anything else in our toolkit that I’m missing?

[tribal wharf]

diamond hands

[coarse bay]

Ill be honest i havent noticed it in m0, might be more relevant in m+. Depending on duration it could be a cc/kite angle to drop stacks if its really deadly

We arent equipped to handle a heal absorb

[coarse bay]

Big rollers

[sleek sun]

If I got a Hero weapon this week should I just send a craft on a 259 or 276 shield?

[coarse bay]

Just wait to craft until next week with myth crests

Dont really need the bigger shield unless youre progging raid and finding yourself needing it

[sleek sun]

Haven't done the raid yet

I'm don't know why but accidently doing this whole crafting thing sub-optimally has me paralyzed lol

[coarse bay]

Ya youre fine, crafting now is an optimization unnecessary to most people

[daring marlin]

50k dps udk wins tier

hell yeah brother

[coarse bay]

Always

[undone beacon]

sounds about right

[sleek sun]

And we can pretty much send Champion Crests indiscriminately this week? Except maybe save enough to cheat a Hero upgrade for free after vault next week?

[undone beacon]

Lowest dps mage took lfr tier earlier, sadge

[daring marlin]

what a boss

[undone beacon]

clearly he needed it more

[coarse bay]

Im personally sitting on them because im expecting to get higher ilvl pieces without needing more power

But theyre kinda w/e

[undone beacon]

Champ is pretty whatever yeah

[coarse bay]

I went in with 4 guildy alts to funnel my mage and 0 cloth items dropped for all 4 bosses

[undone beacon]

a champ 6/6 will save you the hero crests for hero 1/6 to hero 2/6

[undone beacon]

lmao oof

[sleek sun]

Yeah I'm thinking I'm just going to save 100 to go from a 1/6 champion to 6/6 incase I get a Hero track from vault in the same slot just to save on Hero crests

[solid sun]

I got a few items last night. Hit 225 ilvl

[coarse bay]

Bigggg

[solid sun]

Same day I hit 90 on the war

Ready for daddy Cam to carry me

[daring marlin]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[coarse bay]

Can u carry me

I should be around during the weekend for gaming

Are we added on bnet?

[solid sun]

We aren’t

I haven’t been blessed yet

[daring marlin]

so apparently you get 8 bountiful delves this week actually?

[solid sun]

Oh gosh

So much to do

[dusky canopy]

Only 6 keys

[daring marlin]

you get two from a satchel off the troll vendor

so you have 8 total keys

[dusky canopy]

What?

[daring marlin]

my bad, the elf chick

top left option

ignore the restored coffer key

[undone beacon]

Yeah bountiful delves are this week

[dusky canopy]

Oh interesting

[undone beacon]

oh i misread

[daring marlin]

that satchel has two keys in it

[dusky canopy]

Those go above the cap?

[undone beacon]

6 from the shards, 2 from the intro to delves

8 total yes

[lusty grotto]

dunk em in the haste buff, hope your group knows big circle = big haste buff = goodge

[daring marlin]

what are the odds that the first room in nexus is a pull all and lust move for M+?

seems like an easy pull

[lusty grotto]

if not heal pot and impending victory 🤷‍♂️

you can just skip that first room

but

[dusky canopy]

Yo that’s sick more chances to replace vet

[daring marlin]

won't you have to do it anyway?

[lusty grotto]

left side into haste circles is probably a good move

it just hurts

depends on count

you dont really

you can go around them

[warped stag]

Hey guys,
Considering im gonna push in m+, what stats will be BIS ?
Is this Haste/Crit or Haste/Versa ? Thanks a lot

[narrow prawn]

should i act like a legit twat and use my token on it

[undone beacon]

haste/crit

[lusty grotto]

oh man

i wasnt expecting a versa question this early

[daring marlin]

pash I had the most annoying bug last night

[lusty grotto]

how much are we betting for the volume of versa andies this season?

[undone beacon]

Do tell

[undone beacon]

Depends on how popular prot ends up being ig

[daring marlin]

loaded into a delve on my alt and valeera had no skills

everything greyed out

and she was doing NOTHING

[lusty grotto]

yeah good point bear

[lusty grotto]

you would screw yourself if you actually get the piece later

[narrow prawn]

[lusty grotto]

prioritize covering missing slots

[narrow prawn]

true

[lusty grotto]

getting 4pc is not only important due to power gain

but also because

you get catalyst charges from drops after

and then you can just waste them as you see fit

[jagged pier]

nim now im casual u get to answer my question do i craft hero 2h or hero 1h and shield

[lusty grotto]

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

the guild youre helping is def gonna kill myth tic-tac-toe right?

[jagged pier]

not with me in the roster

[tribal wharf]

4/6 dungeons with 2h weapons, nonthin so far

some day fury

[lusty grotto]

hmm, thats actually a difficult decision

are you tanking in any capacity

i know you dont like keys etc, but are you planning on doing them?

[jagged pier]

probably will do keys for protals and 3k

[lusty grotto]

make 2hander probably, and bet on vault drops

[jagged pier]

thank u for the wisdom

[lusty grotto]

i hope that doesnt bite me in the ass, fingers crossed you have better vault luck than me lmao

you def save crests with 2h though

[dusky canopy]

Craft 2h myth so you can get a second 5/6 myth weapon for free

[lusty grotto]

ye

goddamn it i hate doing delves so much

[daring marlin]

oh?

I think they're fun

[lusty grotto]

the first time maybe

[undone beacon]

The delve gimmicks this xpac are a lil more fun imo

Also theyre not all caves which is nice

[lusty grotto]

they're definitely nicer yes

i do agree

[daring marlin]

bros were sick of spelunking

[lusty grotto]

the underwater ones in TWW were fucking ass until they just removed hte water

[undone beacon]

I did the twilight crypt one in eversong with the mirrors and you had to direct light beams that was cool

[lusty grotto]

brought me back to Ocarina of Time

desert temple mirroring

[solid sun]

I think seat is gonna be rough

Also the fixate on that scientist + zombie boss in pit of Saruman is quick. He gets on your ass so fast

[lusty grotto]

idk seat is fine

the bolt slop is kinda mid but whatever

[undone beacon]

i cant wait for people to fuck up the 2nd boss all the time

[daring marlin]

I can't wait to see my first tank pull a yogi and not tank garfrost next to rocks

[lusty grotto]

i didnt really enjoy having CoT 3rd boss 2.0 as 1st boss but it is what it is

[undone beacon]

which one is cot again

[lusty grotto]

except with adds instead of bubbles

the goo guy

[undone beacon]

i mean what dungeon

[lusty grotto]

city of threads

not caverns of time sorry

[undone beacon]

oh right i repressed city of threads

[solid sun]

Are you saying the first boss of seat is like the goo boss

I’m just asking to make sure I followed that correctly

I’m not suggesting it isn’t

[daring marlin]

third boss of seat was a lot easier than I remember him being in legion

[lusty grotto]

i am yes

you either intercept shit or you die, and zone control the room

[daring marlin]

doing AA again was so cool

best dungeon

[lusty grotto]

cant z axis whirlwind mass pull

[daring marlin]

tree pull on prot pally

[lusty grotto]

i do wonder if it works on the ww clones though

[daring marlin]

tol dagor next pls

[lusty grotto]

only the first area

scrap the rest

[daring marlin]

member s1 before they fixed laser matrix range

LMAOOOOOOOOOO

[lusty grotto]

lmao

and DHs

and azerite beam

and... sanguine in there

[ivory barn]

With twilight dev to pull through walls?

[daring marlin]

all my homies love sanguine and bolster

[daring marlin]

oh naw it was way worse in S1

[undone beacon]

Unrelated but god Harandar is pretty but i fucking hate doing content in this zone

[daring marlin]

YEAH THAT PLACE SUCKS

[lusty grotto]

interestingly ive heard people like it

[undone beacon]

Like its a stunning zone and has good vibes but

[daring marlin]

Eversong/Void are my fav

[undone beacon]

The WQs are annoying, and gathering nodes suck

[high aspen]

voidstorm is the worst questing zone by far

[ivory barn]

I played prot/fury that whole expansion till end of S4 chaos bolt .5s casts existed

[undone beacon]

Voidstorm has the best side quests of any zone, Harandar has the worst

[ivory barn]

Machine gun green marshmallow

[undone beacon]

Also fun fact, during nightmare hunts when Astalor yells at you to kill something, critters count

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/crowby-loot-crowsus-downfall-crowsus-downfall-loot-crowsus-loot-gif-25695717

[daring marlin]

I played arms/prot, ret/prot and destro

[lusty grotto]

i stopped liking astalor after that, he aint my boss - Dominos best character

[ivory barn]

Can we bring back legion Fury bloodbath execute please

[daring marlin]

how about we bring back focused rage

[undone beacon]

I still love Astalor but he doesnt have to shout at me like that smh

Decimus and Astalor should kiss

[lusty grotto]

[daring marlin]

you like that don't lie

[lusty grotto]

would be fucking nice

its dominoes okay?

[undone beacon]

👀

[daring marlin]

focused rage would probably fix a lot of arms problems

[ivory barn]

I'd take that over current arms

[solid sun]

Harris is pretty goated

An elf named fkn Harris is so good

Harris is the one blood elf who grew up in 8 Mile

[undone beacon]

I dont accept nicknames for my characters. Its Decimus. Its Salhadaar

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/get-the-f-out-of-my-office-john-dutton-1

[undone beacon]

Anytime someone called Salhadaar "Saladbar" i go apoplectic

[lusty grotto]

saladbar

[solid sun]

Dude pash was so incensed

[undone beacon]

He may be a bitch ass poser but he has a cool name and that is to be respected

[ivory barn]

blizzard uses random name generator

[lusty grotto]

bitch ass poser that has died 3 times

in tbc, in TWW, in midnight

going for the Kael thas world record at this point

[solid sun]

Uhhhhh spoilers

[undone beacon]

Yeah thats why hes a bitch ass poser

[solid sun]

Raid just came out dude

[undone beacon]

uhm technically he didnt die in TWW 🤓

[ivory barn]

Lmao, he's a raid boss, what you expect

[lusty grotto]

boss down means hes dead okay

[solid sun]

Maybe he escapes

In an escape pod

Sylvanas was a raid boss and Lookit her

[ivory barn]

So is Alleria

[ionic fern]

DId it earlier, forgot to mention,.

[lusty grotto]

tyty

[ivory barn]

Also Valeera pumping a casual 50k in delves is hilarious

[undone beacon]

So turns out you cant cheese the "Nightmare Hunt in War Mode" achieve by turning on war mode before you fight the boss

[lusty grotto]

i hate when people ask me if i wanna group delves

fuck no i dont

i dont like mobs HP scaled up

[solid sun]

Yeah I was doing some prey stuff and wq stuff last night and listened to a couple friends try to duo an 11

Actually failed it

[lusty grotto]

especially these idiot dogs that just spam bleeds

yeah let me just tank them for longer

[ivory barn]

And after solo it's only useful at 5 people lol

[lusty grotto]

i wouldnt know

nor care

[ivory barn]

I tried it once...

[toxic pewter]

@daring marlin did u kill any heroic bosses yet

[daring marlin]

vor yes

shitter 50k dps udh got tier

[toxic pewter]

damn

I killed first 3

zero loot

[daring marlin]

nice on the kills at least

[toxic pewter]

yah not sure will be able to get aotc first week lmao

apparently dragons boss kinda difficult?

[undone beacon]

We did normal last night, gonna go pummel heroic tonight

[toxic pewter]

nice

[tribal wharf]

"CAN U USE A DEFENSIVE?

[daring marlin]

I keep seeing fury warriors doing tank damage too

[tribal wharf]

my healer mt boss 1 trash

[daring marlin]

even ones with 272 weapons

like dawg get outta my group

[lusty grotto]

that has never been uncommon

[daring marlin]

game's way easier now

these bosses have no mechanics

[onyx vale]

yo, what to craft ?

[lusty grotto]

hunters, fury warriors and ret paladins are picks for giga boomers that would benefit from using OBR - in a huge percent pop wise, im not saying all of them are, but a massive amount of the pop are just that key demographic

[lusty grotto]

pins

[onyx vale]

ty

[ebon geyser]

Im having so a hard time deciding what to do or play..

[daring marlin]

Arms

[ebon geyser]

Lol nop

Is it normal to feel you getting trucked in delves 11

[daring marlin]

I kite sometimes

but I also pull huge

[ebon geyser]

That's the thing im trying to do big pulls to get ready for m+ but they are rough

Only reason I know is they are rough is because valeera pop her dark circle under me

[solid sun]

What’s the dark circle

[outer willow]

It was less deadly once my healer got wind of it, and prepped. But I agree. I’ll look to kite and cc

[echo egret]

What's the reasoning for removing Shield Specialization in our raid build ?

[outer willow]

Wait what? Please share this tech. Is there something I’m missing?

[jagged pier]

What raid build u lookong at?

[echo egret]

Wowhead

[lusty grotto]

the are pylons in the left side you can stand on, their little pink circle grows and give you both a haste buff and some damage

the haste buff is pretty sizeable

but you do take damage

it depends how they are scaled in keys

the damage i mean

[undone beacon]

wowhead builds are out of date, we reccomend Icy Veins

[lusty grotto]

they arent out of date but... they arent the best

that being said we dont have an active writer on those guides

Nome retired

[undone beacon]

I mean, they havent been updated in almost a month

[echo egret]

I have been staying away from IV and their horrible clickbait news

but I'll have a look, thanks

[undone beacon]

WoW news sites are bad across the board, WoWhead is no better

[lusty grotto]

isnt everything clickbait?

[undone beacon]

But we have an active guidewriter for IV, not wowhead

[echo egret]

Understood - I hadn't seen Nomeratur resigned

[solid sun]

It’s weird

[lusty grotto]

pretty sure he did update the cheat sheet

[solid sun]

This is from yesterday morning

[lusty grotto]

but the rest idk

[undone beacon]

Talent page hasnt been updated since 2/26

[solid sun]

But if you go to the pwar site it says last updated February

[lusty grotto]

yeah just the cheat sheet

he wasnt recommending bloodborne before

[tribal wharf]

rip

[lusty grotto]

that reminds me i gotta update the ITF thing to mention to not run it on: imperator if 2nd tank, twin dragons, chimaerus

[tribal wharf]

6/6 m0's no 2h

[lusty grotto]

even Salhadaar is kinda scuffed picking it up if youre running away from orbs

[ebon geyser]

is the thing that protect you from dying i think

[outer willow]

Amazing. Thank you.

[distant thicket]

whats the prot build

[lusty grotto]

the ones in icyveins or #protection-faq

[undone beacon]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-spec-builds-talents

[distant thicket]

icy vein or wowhead ?

[undone beacon]

icyveins

the one i just linked

[lusty grotto]

@

[distant thicket]

big icy vein warrior cord !

[dusky canopy]

@toxic pewter how much pvp do I have to do to get 9 galactic heraldry ?

[toxic pewter]

iirc u just gotta do like a bg blitz

and some quest pops up

and u get it

maybe 1 or 2 bg blitzes

or solo shuffle match

oh thats for the epic ones at least

if u want uncommon u can buy on ah or rare u can buy with honor

[lusty grotto]

tried to make it as digestible as possible

feedback welcome

i did remove the colossus thing, but most of you are aware of the haste buff

[tribal wharf]

notable hands in anyway or nah?

i will assume worthless effect

[lusty grotto]

you can sim it against tier

would be good to check if simcraft is tracking it

[tribal wharf]

have a chance to deal 1100 dmg doesnt sound encouraging

low dmg number, probably low proc

[undone beacon]

i mean, thats extra damage you wouldnt be dealing otherwise

[lusty grotto]

yeah

does not seem bad at all

[young harbor]

dumb question, do any current addons do a decent job of co-tank debuff tracking? with the addon prune i cant seem to find anything reliable to do this

[tribal wharf]

sure, thats if it even drops for any of us

[undone beacon]

Mwahi has it on our bis list

[undone beacon]

There isnt

[young harbor]

i was afraid of that

they are private auras now?

[undone beacon]

Tracking your allies buffs and debuffs was something they wanted to get rid of in the addon purge

[young harbor]

grumble

[undone beacon]

mmhm

[young harbor]

im too old for this

[lusty grotto]

youre incorrect pash

naowh qol does it

[undone beacon]

Am I?

[lusty grotto]

and you dont need to pay for it

[undone beacon]

Thats news to me

[lusty grotto]

its freely available

[young harbor]

ohhh

[toxic pewter]

my dbm puts co tank stacks at center left annd my stacks right above my head

[lusty grotto]

there's probably more, but i was using it last night without issues

good to know apb

[young harbor]

awesome ill check it out thanks nimchip

[undone beacon]

Hm, you learn something new everyday. Everywhere I looked I was told its not possible anymore

[toxic pewter]

its been pretty good

i can take a screenshot when i raid next

[lusty grotto]

yeah go ahead

if dbm does it then bigwigs does as well

[toxic pewter]

im fairly certain its dbm doing it..

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[toxic pewter]

i have a lot of addons....

[undone beacon]

me rn

[undone beacon]

Oh shiiiit

[lusty grotto]

its just a frame i dont know what exactly handles the debuff

probably bigwigs etc

[cerulean tusk]

that addon UI gives me early 2000's vibes

[lusty grotto]

it is what it is

that being said if that one does it, im sure others do as well

i just dont know about any other, aside from what apb mentioned

[dusky canopy]

Atrocity’s 1 button optimization feature gave me like 50-100 fps lmao

[ivory barn]

His QoL stuff combined with Enhanced QoL is actually quite nice

[coarse bay]

Tbf we werent supposed to, and we weren’t supposed to be able to rename spells and abilities. Yet now i noticed that my boss timers say “dodge” “spikes” etc

[dusky canopy]

Apparently my graphics reset and I didn’t notice

[lusty grotto]

i dont think the debuff hiding applied to tank debuffs

that would be a little bit insane

[young harbor]

yeah

if the base ui frames had more flexibility on movement i wouldnt care, since they show it. but they dont

they ended up in this weird middle ground of half taking things away but not providing proper solutions with their deployed base ui

shrug

thanks for the info folks, ill give this addon a go

[lusty grotto]

just check with dbm/bigwigs first in case so that you dont have to manage an additional addon

[young harbor]

will do, thanks

[ivory barn]

Does bigwigs have a timeline bar?

[lusty grotto]

i wouldnt know i fucking despise timeline bars

way too distracting

normal bars for me

[coarse bay]

It does

So does base blizzard

Actually you know what idk about bw sorry, dbm does for sure

I use bw but dont use timeline

[ivory barn]

Actually you aren't wrong there, I switched from blizzard timeline to bigwigs bars to kill the delve boss

[undone beacon]

i just memorize the time between abilities and synchronize it to the tapping of my foot

[lusty grotto]

[ionic fern]

Man, Silvermoon looked so lit before, now i have to play alts due to this ugly blue beam.

[ivory barn]

Don't try walking into the sun well after that....

I barely got my fucking corpse back

[toxic pewter]

lol

[undone beacon]

mwahi banned for spoilers smh

[lusty grotto]

stupid feet mommy making me play alts

[dusky canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1481375328038424617/image0.gif

[lusty grotto]

what

what

[ivory barn]

The real spoiler is the raid cinematic

[cerulean tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/342766218358423564/1465799341511016508/TakeThisNim.gif?ex=69bcff44&is=69bbadc4&hm=151c17fa4e4e2f34ec10ee669cf75dad74248d5afe79f30abfb08e9af705c010&=&width=400&height=225

[ivory barn]

This is showing age, but Homer pouring bleach into Barts eyes is funnier

[lusty grotto]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

fuck my life

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-laugh-mimibarbar-2g6sCTsSoVuSfSxK4W

[undone beacon]

Fuck my stupid delve chud life

https://tenor.com/view/chud-fuck-my-stupid-life-gif-6449531213497583567

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/goatplaybanjo-bird-explosion-burst-pas-moi-gif-3871740515834623393

[ionic fern]

This .

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lmao-meme-lmao-gif-lol-lol-cat-gif-4552813418803199403

[lusty grotto]

what the hell i had like 6 keys

what happened!

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[lusty grotto]

oh

[dusky canopy]

Imagine one of the homies (guilford) says hey bro yoink this satchel it’s got two keys in it

[lusty grotto]

ok i see what happened

[dusky canopy]

And then you run a delve and not have a key for the lock

Craazzyy

[lusty grotto]

wait a minute

am i done then

[undone beacon]

have u done 8 delves

cuz then yes

[lusty grotto]

so i didnt have to run this mole lair?

i want my 12 mins back

[hardy snow]

it dropped

[undone beacon]

also you get 8 keys on the char you do delve intro for, not any alts

alts get 6 keys like normal

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

gamer

[dusky canopy]

Nice craft large

[lusty grotto]

why did you have to mention alts

[undone beacon]

well cuz i knew you were so sad being done delving soooo

[lusty grotto]

i dont wanna do alt delve gaming

[undone beacon]

Delve splits lets gooooo

[lusty grotto]

[ivory barn]

Nothing like the hero map delve being used on a piss ass trinket

[lofty warren]

[undone beacon]

my hero map on warrior gave me the saptor paw

leech AND avoidance? yessir

[lusty grotto]

i got some sick legs

[lofty warren]

what is the map drop % in a dwelve 8

[undone beacon]

you got some bitch ass nae nae legs compared to the epic and cool withered saptor paw

[ivory barn]

After watching Valeera do a casual 50k overall in a +9 Delve I was sold

[lusty grotto]

clever girl...

just 50k?

my valeera is leveling up

[lofty warren]

how to force female brann to go away? she always pulls extra shit

[ivory barn]

She's only level 18 ☠️

[lusty grotto]

a cool 26

[ivory barn]

More like the companion that doesn't shut up

[lusty grotto]

brann was worse

i like valeera's voice

[undone beacon]

i dont mind valeera, she hits like a truck and her voice lines are concise

[lusty grotto]

especially "Speak no more"

yes mommy

[dusky canopy]

I don’t even know how to change delve companion

I just get what I get

[undone beacon]

Okay so thats fine but Astalor going "Kill for me. Now!" isnt?

what the frick nim

[lusty grotto]

well you see

astalor too bossy

[hardy snow]

Astalor sounds like psycho from some holywood movie

[solid sun]

nimchip like booba

[lusty grotto]

i gotta admit though astalor's VA is fucking great

[undone beacon]

to be fair both Astalor and Valeera can step on me so

[solid sun]

nimchip does not like not-booba

[lusty grotto]

that guy definitely stands out as a great VA

[undone beacon]

Astalor the last TRUE blood elf

[solid sun]

Nimchip arrives at the delve this expansion like

https://tenor.com/view/leave-the-plumbing-to-me-mario-chris-pratt-the-super-mario-bros-movie-ive-got-this-handled-gif-7130780333251572830

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson

[ivory barn]

[lusty grotto]

i wonder if ill be able to get rid of this garbage today

[jagged pier]

u wont

[lusty grotto]

good lord

[hoary sluice]

@lusty grotto Pretty much an immediately noticeable difference in damage now. Appreciate you guys!

[daring marlin]

chad

[lusty grotto]

[tribal wharf]

some how wiping to 2nd boss seat :S

[coarse bay]

Havent been there yet and i only remember avoiding it in legion

[lusty grotto]

2nd boss is just

kick the one pet

and cover balls with circles

get as most as you can or you rot to the grave with the aoe

or get 1 shot

[tribal wharf]

we couldnt get it after 3 tries

so, i'll just run it again or not at all

[lusty grotto]

well you cant do much if people arent doing mechanics

[tribal wharf]

it was pretty much same experience on monk

may be pug destroyer

[lusty grotto]

kinda wild hes way more simple than the others

but it is what it is

[sand condor]

Are we s tier yet

[coarse bay]

W tier

I should make a new tier list

Its been awhile

[warm plinth]

Ello

[coarse bay]

👋

[hoary sluice]

do i press revenge outside of procs?

[lusty grotto]

if SS and TC are on cd, yes

[hoary sluice]

ok

[lusty grotto]

the proc makes no difference

you dont press it when the proc is up over SS and TC

[hoary sluice]

ok. so it's a filler essentially

[lusty grotto]

as thane

[hoary sluice]

ok got it

[lusty grotto]

SS and TC/TB are the higher prio

[hoary sluice]

sweet. thanks for the tips! super clutch

[undone beacon]

Can confirm, gilded stash before delver level 4 just gives 10 hero crests

[tribal wharf]

i didnt play legion which is part of why i dont understand that boss

but its everyone has to take 1 ball

or you die

or all balls have to die

[undone beacon]

Hit as many balls with the circles as possible, soak the ones that dont get hit by circles

[tribal wharf]

and i assume you cant manipulate where they spawn easily

[lusty grotto]

that version isn't the legion version

all of the bosses there were changed

[tribal wharf]

well, its like, when i run the new pit of saron, if i dont think about it too hard, its exactly the same dungeon it was before

but with get 6/6 at the start with trash

but i remember some minor details that remind me its not precisely the same

[lusty grotto]

kind of

2nd boss is somewhat different

[tribal wharf]

another pug destroyer boss

i was there in wrath all that long ago, he was very good at blowing the mage up

[lusty grotto]

well technically the first phase and the area being limited, the fixate stayed from the og version

[tribal wharf]

casts 10 seconds long "death bolt" nobody kicks it

unless thats only i can see it

[rigid hemlock]

It is worth doing them at t11, you get more crests, season journey, and valeera xp. Also you can rng roll a hero track cantrip weapon natty out of the normal chests at the end of an 11

Should have 2 of them in prot loot pool , 2 set 1h swords

[ivory barn]

Is that the T11 chest? So I just need to do delve to level the journey then

[undone beacon]

T11 Chest at level 2

[ivory barn]

I'ma just do 11's then fuck it

The mislaid curios still give valeera XP right?

[dusky canopy]

You only get one heroic item a week from T8+ delves and that’s from the map

[lusty grotto]

depending on the delve level yes

on the curio xp thing

[ivory barn]

Oof is that bountiful related now?

[lusty grotto]

the higher she gets, the higher the delve has to be for curios to give her exp

its not a now thing

thats how it was in TWW

bountifuls just make it so its lower level delve required

also a TWW thing

[ivory barn]

The only delves I did in TWW was like S1 and did barely enough for a vault

[small garden]

Does ?? delve gives more hero crests?

i'm at 64

[daring marlin]

yes and mythic crests too

or do you mean multiple kills?

[mighty valley]

one time, right?

[small garden]

one time

i jsut did ?

[daring marlin]

one time yes

idk if it gives more than once tho

[small garden]

hmm, should i attempt it? ran out of bountifull delves this week cuz i ran them at 8

[daring marlin]

yes

mount is cool

I gotta finish the campaign so I can make my mog to the mount lmfao

[small garden]

if i was smarter i would've had hero track weapon now

[lusty grotto]

huh

[remote ocean]

has anyone tested hitting a dummy for 5 min vs simulating it on raidbots?

my auto attack is so different on both for some reason. raidbots is predicting b asically 4x the auto attack dmg.

[tribal wharf]

dont worry about it unless you are going to be in mdi

or run like, 20s

[remote ocean]

latest test. 3x more auto attack dmg for some reason

[tribal wharf]

you are never really as much behind as you think you are

so many ppl willing to trade gear in zeros now

[dusky canopy]

Demolish off the charts!!!

[mighty valley]

can you expend melee on raidbots, is it folding in the devastator damage

[lusty grotto]

windfury

[remote ocean]

im doing no buffs.

only difference in buffs is i did the test with defensive, apparently raidbots defaults to battle stance

[small garden]

`true, but, yes

[lusty grotto]

yes thats intended

[remote ocean]

50% extra shield slam too

[frank bobcat]

Getting completely dumpstered by loot rng in m0s these last two days, literally just getting capes and bracers hahaha

Just looked up & saw tier 8 delves reward better gear anyways so now I'm just gonna smash those

[undone beacon]

Link the sim

[remote ocean]

other than shield slam and auto attacks everything else looks fine

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wuVV9o2PCcX7kimLUAa2up

[undone beacon]

Was just about to say

[small garden]

do I do ?? with valeera dps or healer

[undone beacon]

It counts Devestator as melee in the sim

[tribal wharf]

with exception of 2h weapons i have gear for days

[lusty grotto]

yes thats intended too

[mighty valley]

and shield slam includes phalanx

[remote ocean]

what about the shield slam difference pash?

oh

still a bit off.

[undone beacon]

Phalanx yeah

[lusty grotto]

oh

[remote ocean]

41 to 35ish %

[lusty grotto]

he didnt realize he had to add those up?

[remote ocean]

yup. i didnt.

[lusty grotto]

i understand where you guys are going with this

[mighty valley]

shield slam damage is gonna vary depending on procs

[lusty grotto]

and skill

[ivory barn]

Healer is easier, DPS if Valeera thick

[undone beacon]

Yeah theres def a lot a play, a simulation is playing "perfectly" every time, etc etc. You're not expected to hit your sim numbers perfectly

When adding up the things simc combines in its output, it looks about right

[lusty grotto]

[ivory barn]

I wish I could figure out logs as fury better even doing a cast comparison has me sad

Maybe not playing the raid as thane would've helped

[undone beacon]

Theres a whole fury channel in this discord

[lusty grotto]

have you tried posting in #1347646810457636974

[ivory barn]

No, might go there next

[lusty grotto]

that channel is there for a reason

i dont know how many fury players are answering, but its there

[undone beacon]

To POINT and LAUGH at people struggling

[tribal wharf]

so, apparently, if we miss cleaning up all the blue balls

wait that sounds wrong

[lusty grotto]

...

[tribal wharf]

i have to walk through them

[lusty grotto]

i swear yogi can you read what we tell you sometimes?

[tribal wharf]

i mean, that is the mechanic

purple

[lusty grotto]

it wasnt just me telling you that

it was also pash

[undone beacon]

my sweet summer child

[lusty grotto]

oh im well aware

but every now and then i gotta try to get through to him

[undone beacon]

Also thats a weird ass phrase where did it come from

[lusty grotto]

GoT

[undone beacon]

wait actually

[lusty grotto]

ASoIaF

[undone beacon]

No way

[tribal wharf]

okay, i think i understand that boss now finally

[lusty grotto]

the novels did it first i guess, but yeah

summer/winter etc

[undone beacon]

okay apparently its a lot older than GoT but really only became popular after its usage in the novels/show

[lusty grotto]

wouldnt surprise me

[undone beacon]

Its in a bunch of poems from the late 1800s and early 1900s

neat

[lusty grotto]

good fact for trivia night

[daring marlin]

PALLY POWER

[tribal wharf]

at last, the perfect group comp

[ivory barn]

Fucking 5 paladin's walk into a bar

[toxic pewter]

so many paladins lol

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/mascot-angry-gif-20556475

That's what I think of that pink bubble class

[small garden]

any other way to stop the delve boss from casting the 1shot?

except pummel?

[lusty grotto]

no

disrupting works, thats it

[small garden]

managed to get to 20 but accidentally wasted it o nthe warlock

[lusty grotto]

dont kick the warlock

just reflect

[ivory barn]

Ignore the warlock at all costs

[small garden]

one more try!

[ivory barn]

Just zug

It took my brain 4 pulls to fucking ignore that red bar

[lusty grotto]

i wonder if tank valeera can carry ilvl 170 chipadin like tank brann did after s1

only one way to find out, straight to 8 i go

[ivory barn]

https://tenor.com/view/saurfang-the-horde-will-endure-world-of-warcraft-gif-15256937

[frank bobcat]

Any word on the puggability of heroic this week? I joined a band of misfits who were at the final boss but we didnt even fill the group before everyone went to bed

[ivory barn]

Last boss is a DPS check
change my mind

[undone beacon]

Pugging heroic is a bit of a challenge but probably doable if you manage to get a group that isnt full of shitters

[shrewd pendant]

hello, someone prolly asked this already, are we taking phalanx now? or are we still just onepointing it?

[undone beacon]

All 4 points

[lusty grotto]

wait...

what the fuck

hardmode it is

[undone beacon]

[solid sun]

Pash is the best at simply answering questions and not getting into any other business with it

[undone beacon]

Sometimes its overkill to go into more detail

[daring marlin]

Happened to me last night

on my lock

restarting bnet fixed it

[frank bobcat]

Noted!

[solid sun]

Got the prey sword. Season 1 is already a success

[lusty grotto]

valeera cant keep agro for shit

wth

[daring marlin]

all of her skills are probably greyed out

[lusty grotto]

sir

its ok ill hpal ilvl 170 get this 8 done

with my bestest gear

[undone beacon]

Is that like a threat or is it a good thing

[toxic pewter]

lol

guess a bit of both

[lusty grotto]

bit of an update

[toxic pewter]

LMAO

valeera rage quit

[lusty grotto]

small update

i released into mobs lmao

[tribal wharf]

holy moly

[toxic pewter]

gratz

[ivory barn]

Bro she left you

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-calendar-young-rog-on-the-road-counting-down-the-days-check-mark-gif-17248921

[azure valley]

Just came back from holiday, what build is good for prot war wowhead or ice?

For raids

[coarse bay]

Another day goes by i wish i was as good as either @toxic pewter or @solid sun

[toxic pewter]

u r da best

[solid sun]

Cam is unmatched

[solid sun]

we recommend icy veins

[toxic pewter]

it do be true

[tribal wharf]

i was about to give that neck up

cuz i had a haste one

and then im like NO, thats crazy talk

i gave lots of gear away recently

[hoary sluice]

is this more how it should look?

[lusty grotto]

sure

but

why is TC under TB

i hope youre not canceling auras

cause that was never a thing for us

[hoary sluice]

not that i'm aware of....?

what would be causing that? i'm still figuring this spec out so i'm not sure what i'd be doing wrong to cause it lol

[lusty grotto]

hold on im in hpal mode

in an 8, with tank valeera greyed out actions

and i just realized i had not talented past 80

[hoary sluice]

lol no worries. just @ me in case it drowns out in here

[lusty grotto]

that breakdown looks fine

sim your character and compare with the breakdown in the sim

[hoary sluice]

ok

[jagged pier]

8 dungeons not a single wep drop for ither spec

[lusty grotto]

TB hits harder, but is up less often so thats kinda okay

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

ouch

[winged oar]

Bling bling

[hoary sluice]

anything i can do to get it up higher?

running sim now

[lusty grotto]

nah youre doing fine

we cant really say much from meter breakdowns

logs are more effective

[tribal wharf]

is it, bosses in m0 drop veteran

and then final drops champion

[lusty grotto]

no

[tribal wharf]

i seem to get a bit of a mix of the 2

[daring marlin]

champ upon completion

nothing else

[hoary sluice]

ok. we raid again tonight so i'll post logs tonight or tomorrow

we logged last raid but i'm sure my rotation was really bad

[tribal wharf]

champ for all boss now?

[lusty grotto]

wym ive only gotten champ loot

@daring marlin

[tribal wharf]

oh okay

cool

[daring marlin]

as in champ currency dude

[tribal wharf]

could just be old gear

[daring marlin]

no vet

[lusty grotto]

ok that tracks

but all bosses drop champ loot

[daring marlin]

yep

[lusty grotto]

crests are a different story

[daring marlin]

he was asking about crests

[warm plinth]

Is it the neverending story

[hoary sluice]

we're not using champ crests for upgrades yet are we?

[lusty grotto]

you use those to skip hero upgrades

as in

you have a 1/6 champ piece and get a 1/6 hero piece on the same slot

you upgrade the champ piece for free up to the hero piece's ilvl

then you use champ crests on it, which makes 1 or 2 upgrades free on the hero piece

[tribal wharf]

wasnt the only huge piece of gear i had today

but i give it to someone

[lusty grotto]

its just a way to optimize crests

[daring marlin]

shoulda given it to me bro

wtf

[tribal wharf]

im just going to re-name to "can trade" at this point

[lusty grotto]

that ring is great though

[tribal wharf]

there is always rings in wow

is what i have learned

922 haste

[daring marlin]

I have 1149 mastery.

no 1243 mastery

[tribal wharf]

ah, i could craft my own bracers

[daring marlin]

I'M TEMPTED TO DO THAT

[tribal wharf]

hard to say what the correct call is

[daring marlin]

237 BRACERS STILL LMAO

[lusty grotto]

ez

8 done on nimchipadin

fuck i did it again

oh nvm

i had a key thank god

im so confused why doesnt she have skills

[toxic pewter]

lololol

[lusty grotto]

on alts..

[daring marlin]

reload your battle.net

It's a stupid bug

I encountered it too

[toxic pewter]

yo why does valeera just fight random mobs far away alone

pissin me off

[lusty grotto]

training you to not have tank ego

hoooly this is massive

[outer willow]

What??

[lusty grotto]

that fixed, ty

[outer willow]

That’s amazing

[lusty grotto]

yeah great for alts, thank god

holy christ its way easier now for sure on hpal

[chrome lance]

Daily check in. Warrior still best? Yes? Sweet. On with my day. 🫡

[outer willow]

My vault needs to be set generous.

[tribal wharf]

does not count for embellish limit?

[lusty grotto]

engi thingies no

[tribal wharf]

none of them seme particularly good

[lusty grotto]

i forget the name but if they dont say they are embelishments they do not count for them

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-rubbing-hands-together-spice-adams-vyd3n-meme-man-behind-tree-meme-gif-2569343513927502347

missing it on 4 pieces we might get there

[lusty grotto]

slowly but surely

[toxic pewter]

is that 1100 amount or whatever thats without any and all buffs right

[jagged pier]

always

[toxic pewter]

ok thx

I figured just wanted to be sure

[tribal wharf]

the effects for engi bracer seems really weak or gimmicky on paper

in my brain

[cerulean tusk]

cause they are

[tribal wharf]

ya

well, i didnt pts into bracer for smith, i did for chest and general armor

could be worse

[toxic pewter]

just saw thd in game

damn i should of waved at him

[tribal wharf]

if i did bracers which would be greedy i would have 945-955 haste

[next sleet]

What embellishment do I get for weapon? Hunt?

[lusty grotto]

whatever sims best

[toxic pewter]

i wasted 80 champion crests

season is ruined

i keep doing stupid things

[jagged pier]

Time to give up on season

Gg go next

Come back season 2

[toxic pewter]

yeah like

im done

[jagged pier]

I only have 100 chammp crests left and thats for a 2h

Cause i cant get weps to drop

[toxic pewter]

yeah damn i could of basically crafted a 2h with the crests i wasted feelsbadman

[daring marlin]

paladin doing 15k less than me won bracers

nooooooooooooooooo

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/laughing-duck-3

[lusty grotto]

i did the 4 bounties with chipadin

got TWO 2handers

swapped to holy loot spec

what the heck

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wwe-wrestling-l0HU5bbgdW6qzJsmQ

paladin...

[lusty grotto]

a holy paladin!

but yea you right

[cerulean tusk]

Good, good.

[lusty grotto]

thx blizz

ill just do a sad disenchant ig

[daring marlin]

SHEESH

[tribal wharf]

949 haste now

delve pants

[slender bison]

Feels good to have the tank back at 30% haste. Was so bad early that almost wanted to swap

[tribal wharf]

1025 ish haste if i make engi bracer

[lusty grotto]

kinda useless since you will replace it all with hero track next week

same to you clusterhead

no reason to hard chase haste

your gains will get deleted as soon as you ilvl > all

[tribal wharf]

we'll see how that goes i suppose

[toxic pewter]

ive been unlucky with haste got 6 pieces with no haste on em

[lusty grotto]

and if you dont ilvl > all, youre inting

[tribal wharf]

nop

ilvl = equipped here

[solid sun]

I'm 230 and haven't unlocked nightmare prey yet

Should I continue climbing through delves and do 5-8 or w/e

Or should I do m0s

Raiding in a few hours

[tribal wharf]

i barely interact with prey

do ocassional delve

[outer willow]

Can I go back and time and not craft

[lusty grotto]

sure, just wait for next season

[outer willow]

This just happened

zzzz

[lusty grotto]

jk its not the same, you just recraft with new sparks then

[outer willow]

Oh true. This isnt significant

u right

[lusty grotto]

what happened

[outer willow]

Got the Scepter

[lusty grotto]

i dont see the problem there

[outer willow]

Crafted the Spell breaker

[lusty grotto]

i still dont see the problem

wait

spellbreaker...

why did you craft a perma embelish

[outer willow]

oh god

I didnt even see that

[lusty grotto]

your mistake wasnt crafting

[undone beacon]

[solid sun]

How did you not see the giant green paragraph on the weapon lol

[lusty grotto]

the loot doesnt matter

its what you crafted

[toxic pewter]

[outer willow]

I TWAS LATE

[toxic pewter]

LOL

[outer willow]

I WAS HIGH

[lusty grotto]

kinda feels like you think getting a drop invalidates it, but its not

it doesnt*

[toxic pewter]

ITS OK i also wasted bunch of crests

[solid sun]

https://tenor.com/view/smoking-duck-cigarette-cigarette-duck-blunt-duck-smoke-duck-gif-4275462109028563488

[toxic pewter]

actually not even really a waste it just is what it is

[lusty grotto]

at least its not an intellect sword

its not a big deal

you didnt waste crests

just craft a new one

with your other 2 sparks

and then wait for 2 more sparks for shield 🙂

or just fucking use it

🤷‍♂️

[outer willow]

Yea actually I might just own it.

Hmm