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quick question from someone that isn't regularly tanking: Is it normal that you need to be nearly perfect with shield block now if you don't want it to drop off?
any trinket is i try it
what do you mean
thats the rule around here, if i can equip it, and i get it, i will try it
If I use shield block like 3-5s before it runs out, combo with shield charge eventually obviously, I tend to end up with like 5+ seconds without any option for shield block eventually
oh btw the reason its not mentioned is because den is not in this season, so you cant get higher ilvl of it
read this
and make sure you swap
if outside of raids only
i would only let shield block fall when there is non elite adds only around
and weak ones
oh thank you, should have looked there first I guess sorry duh
if you are ITF, its hurting you in dungeons
like trash monster rather
lol nah its buried so i have to link it
youre good
on add have to keep sb active
just noticed yea, for some reason I read a "FAQ " into that link lol
thanks for that !
I updated vet weapon to 6/6 and tghen when i go to upgrade champ I didnt get discount. why not
ok ill look into it later
but still once again it does not drop in the season
so its a non factor
you will replace it
RIP
what do i need to do to get discount on crest upgrade
that weapon is no-beauno
u dont have str from weapon and will have to find/use a replacement asap
wtf
that scepter of endless night you have is perfect
WHAT. DO.I.NEED.TO.DO.TO.GET.CHAMP.CRESH.DISCOUNT.PLS
i dont know either why it doesnt work that way
cuz i item restored the agi axe from yesterday to get discount from crest vendor.... NOP
now i got the gold for it at least
Get the max champ ilevel in all slots if it's the same as previous seasons
Good evening ghash
just lead the raid and downed final boss
perhaps I should make my own raids going forward
grats
LOL
and then i click in to a fighting game server at random just to be terrorized smh

voidspire last boss: thane or slayer angle boys
this is #protection
oh shit wendys my bad
no slayers here
whats a slayer? is that a talent some streamer is using?
we are undercover slayers cat
link me banned streamer talent setup
Next expansion prot slayer
looks good
Hello
lol
a day late but i fuckin did it boys!
gz
They're just making sure you get your steps in
Is US hall of fame not full yet ?
It is
both are as of this morning
It was full early this morning
i kind of want to do LFR but i only have blue 237 2h
not 2 of them, so cant do fury
just do it dude
arms tho lol
Boys are we running only one apex?
send all 4
Looking at WCL and top 100 rn are running 1/4 unless I'm fricken blind when I look at talents
simming it now
thats not what we recommend here
sims will yield 4/4
they did before
they will now
is there a "what to do this week" list somewhere?
WCL is showing all apex at 1/4
is there a spell reflect sheet made yet?
👍 ty
damn I regret using my sparks this week now that I have the 90 hero crests lol, coulda upgraded the wep
you think dps balance matters AT ALL in lfr???
LFR fights frequently end with one tank and one healer scrapping out the last 5% of the boss, just go in there at least half-awake and you're doing your part
i only inv 250+ ilvl to my lfr raid
lol
effectively vote them out
bro the skybox after the last boss dies is... something else
like i do /rw YO VOTE X GUY OUT HE ONLY ILV L232
is so pwetty
no u

is the 400 champ weekly cap on purpose or wat
im not complaining but
seems much higher
How’s prot looking this tier? Mained one for ages but went brew but got the itch to pick up the shield
It won't be 400 every week I'm sure
not the meta pick but looking fine
and has barely changed, so prot lifers are doing a-ok
joinin big boys! Prot op ❤️
so you can spell reflect the ret pally boss tank buster?
yes
Could someone describe the tank swap / tank debuff on vorasius in simple words -.-
delve map, fun game
at start and after the laser mouth, one tank takes the first 2 slams and gets debuff. taunt after first 2 slams. rest of the slams dont apply debuff so other tank just keeps him until after laser beam
at least thts how we did it
any suggestions for good addons to track co tanks stacks. or boss stacks?
1033 haste in raid @lusty grotto xD
First night of raiding on shadow priest done
I did quite mediocre
Hoorah
I held CDs during Chimaerus intermission and i guess that was a mistake 
Tanking these fights seem pretty involved tho, thats cool
how the fuck do you tank swap on twin dragons
intermission
uhh
thats what we are doing at least
what about swapping on gloom casts and just shoot it inside
now that might be tech
our first pull normal i just tanked one the whole time
was getting punched but no die, bear was getting cranked
second pull we swapped in intermission and kill
so I just need 60 mythic crests for a mythic weapon?
yeah on normal swap in intermission is very fine, on heroic its a bit more scuffed
can probably swap after the breath/orb frontal maybe
This talent has me fucked up man
How many m crests you got??
30
Ok I was like wtf
prot pala's apex literally doing uncapped top dam
meanwhile we over here KICKIN DIRT for like 7th place dam
LOL
is this real life
prot pala whispering me laughing at me saying phalanx is a joke

how to level delve journey?
doing bountiful delves basically
Do bountiful delves yeah
ah so just spam 8's?
Man you guys make me feel like I’m not doing enough. I’ve just been doing m0 but you chads are doing delves and raiding too?
If you can do m0, you can do the other stuff
Nightmare prey I’m down for. Does that give hero?
champ
Rgr
True. Just don’t want to fall behind!
You can always catch up, don't stress out
Just play the stuff you feel like playing
You right. Going to Disney this weekend I’ll be back right at the start of the m+ season
Ty homies
Np np, as long as you can do 10s you get hero track gear so all this is just to make the climb to that easier
I want that 10 loot! Gonna push hard this season so I can relax at 3k
Maybe try healing
making Valeera a dps is so fucking dangerous
Ain't need no healer.
yeah and doing that levels Valeera quite quick appearently holy
You're WELCOME
The proc is called Revenge!
We got most of the talent baked in
It was 20% damage, grants shield block, and grants Revenge!
Hi can anyone share talent build after apex talent changes?
Thankss mam

Damn no more indomitable and battle scarred veteran. Feels bad
you can swap TaN for BSV
Kinda new to warrior, are we able to skip that wind tunnel thing in skyreach? Wasn’t having much luck with leap
no
ive tried twice already
Hmmm. TaN does lot of damage right?
you just cant do it like the old version
yes but if youre going BSV you dont care about the extra dps
other talent swaps could be bloodborne or enduring alacrity (but you better watch SB uptime if you do)
if you walk around the outer edge like normal you can leap to the stairs but you still have to do part of the wind tunnel
can we reflect or mitigate this bs somehow?
are you doing normal?
heroic
Night one haul pretty solid
you gotta tank swap
ah. i see.
Idr exactly but I think I still have 120 champ crests left to farm too haha
ill check it out soon doing chimaerus
Glgl!
its just normal heh
better late than never for null
giga chad
gaze dropped in normal
big rolls, lost but i cant complain i got normal tier shouldies
damn I need more loot
gimme
sorry thats not gonna happen youre a pink ass bitch
damn bro

ok that was harsh
Got through normal and first 3 heroic tonight. Dragon positioning is weird. Also all fking night stupid unhalted unit frames was just not showing my focus (cotanks) debuffs despite testing them before hand.
i had a weird issue on the otherside part of chimearus where nameplates were just not clickable
but yeah dragon swaps are old school swaps
only time I ever really played fury was bfa with CSHB
shit was crazy
honestly just swap at intermission like Adeptt said, or maybe try to work it on glooms
Yup we only got three pulls in tonight. Full day tomorrow still
Decent fights. Not the best, not the worst
lack of m+ getting to me tbh
what null toy
fyi you can block the soak on chimaerus (the physical portion, only of course)
oh?
oh shit it does look sick
It just procs when you stand still
ye i used it
any suggestions for good addons to track co tanks stacks. or boss stacks?
naowh qol is free (no sub needed for this one, its standalone from his UI)
and has a tank frame
im sure other QoL addons have them too
maybe even the Northern Sky one
im sure marking tanks up also works
if you have stand alone tank frames
with like a decent raid frame addon or whatever
Gloom-splattered dreadscale is absolutely cracked.
It is so good and does massive shields I feel
yeah its a good trinket
prot war is so tank compared to prot paladin...
on nulleaus, prot paladin takes like 1 hit k.o. from the physical hit, prot war takes like 20% hp with just shield block(100% uptime)
I tanked the hit fine with avenger's shield and judge
took the talents that gave shield on them and buffed avenger's shield damage
did you soloed it on prot paladin?
yep
hardest part was the tankbuster easily
I tried with sentinel but ended up going back to crit wings
anyway I wanna do it on my warrior to see how funny it is
did u used lightsmith or templar?
idk in my paladin i just get wrecked, its super easy on warrior
Does anyone know if prot warriors execute is actually scaling right? Ive been having my executes hit for 4k to 10k. Meanwhile having revenges hit for 20k to 80k
Is there a bug with prot warriors execute or is it just me?
No thats execute
It sucks. 
At 8am?? But moooooooom...
Half 6 where i am i can barely think 
Okay so why does it suck atm? I feel like its not scaled appropriately atm
Better u than me , (i also dont know the silly condition)
Blizz and their tuning
Noice >.> so gotta wait til they unfuck us noice.
Because of what Jakey said. They made Execute hit like a wet noodle baseline. As MT it is still more or less usable due to the +25 % damage buff it gains from the Hero tree,but you only cast it on ST if both SS and TC are on CD.
For Colossus you only think about using Execute if you have DW talented. Without DW you unbind Execute from your bars. This is the "user friendly" version of it.
This illustrates the damage numbers between using execute with various talents and not using it at all.
Thank you for that
T_T why the make execute not executing
Dps specs
If using Danders Frames, you can create a Pinned Frame, Name it and drag your Co-Tanks character name in there
so do we always press shield slam if we can? or does the mountain thane abilit take priority?
Always ss
what if my button for ss is mapped to a gun aimed at my hed
Hello guys, serious question here. Our war tank plays with x2 defensive trinks or x1 dmg x1 defensive trinket. I sugested him to follow the guides aka play with dmg trinks due to (dmg = more , things die faster , also crit favors parry , mastery favors block etc etc) Am i fking wrong and thats just for m+ or its like this also in raids? He seems a little big stuborn....
At the end of the day it doesn't matter too much. If the damage input is manageable, there is no need to use defensive trinkets,but rather go for offensive ones to help with the damage output as you said.
You would only swap to defensive trinkets if the situation requires it. 
Im considering try tank raid . Only did mplus and manage fine there. But any tips of how to keep track of when to taunt and all this stuff? Abit different as you play with other tank
My take here is:
It is his choice if he wants to use a dtrinky, effectiveness aside. It won't make or break his DPS values or TPS.
So if this does nothing EXCEPT the placebo effect of having your tank feel safer while playing, it is worthwhile.
If you on a fundamental level cant accept this line of thought, you should replace him from the team. You are not aligned.
U look at their raid frame
Taunts also happen at the same time every fight
So it become muscle memory anyway
My dbm never say anything she lazy. I guess some setting
To be fair, maybe taunt lady cant say taunt anymore, new changes and all that
Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaakey
Do taunt lady still say taunt?
I dont know ive never heard her say taunt i play without sound
Also im not raiding this season. Im belping my guild with hc and normal so they get more loots but that means im dps and not paying attention to anything
So cant really tell yah anyway cause i wouldnt know ither way
Meh, either way you can just remove all mechanics from the DBM timebar, other than the taunt mechanic, and just taunt after it happens
Lmfao
I mean what first boss is on add spawn, second is there on?, third when tank runs away, dragons there isnt one, paladins on jugment, dreamrift boss when the other goes in
Not sure on alleria
Didnt do it
I guess judgement is the only 1 u cant see really
I'm glad we have another bloodhound mech for the tank homies to have an us vs them arithmetic
So with this an example, I know I need to taunt swap around these stacks, so basically hold boss for 20 sec - your cotank will taunt off when stacks falls off. Then maybe there is a need to taunt swap during the weakended state as well, but yeah - not very complex, stuff.
So all you need to track there is yourself and your state. "Do I have stacks? Am I tanking? If no, taunt." then if the mechanic requires it "Is my cotank weakened? If yes, taunt." tho most likely he will just pop CDs to live that space of time while your own stacks reset.
So track the conditionals, by having your co-tank as your focus target is a neat way, to see their situation and your own.
Most fights got clear "why you taunt" mechanics. Often a mix of "X time has passed" (application of a debuff) or during "X condition has been met" (boss and/or adds spawn, that causes one tank to want to focus on one or the other). The 'hardest' mechanic usually being one where the boss chains a tankbuster combo, that requires you to notice what part of the combo is coming and what parts that cant overlap. Usually a "I do 1 attack, scary, 2nd attack is random type 1 or type 2, where you taunt if boss is casting type 2 - not if type 1"
So tldr:
Do your homework of checking the dung journal, spot the tank mechanic. Then with your co-tank, discuss how and when you want to do things. Do some light adaption on the fly as you progress, and finally solidify into a set strat.
Whispering your co-tank is your best tool in the arsenal, so remember to do it. Always - even in PuGs - whisper your cotank with a 'hello, [either a futher greeting, or a question about the fight]". Lifehack: Ask him a question you know he knows the answer to, even if you already know, to have him like you more from the getgo.
Is there a source to see tank mitigation for each tank? Like we have sims for dps. I’d like to have an overview of which tank spec has the most damage mitigation
Its us
Dont need to ask, it is warrior
We’re the only tank that basically mitigates through the damage with nearly no selfhealing
I want to sim my dwarf prot warrior for delves, to optimize damage. I play mainly for story (story mode raid yay !) and casual content, only doing delves/prey and occasionally a M+2 in fury for hero vault.
Which model would you recommand I use on raidbots for the sim ?
As ST dam scenarios is where you going to be stuck the longest, I would just sim for that
Honestly, at that level, just play however you feel it gives the best good vibes
(I say, as I vibe play the top1% content)
Question: while leveling should I use a dps spec for speed? I feel like while I’m immortal I’m just killing slowly.
whatever u feel like doing is the correct choice
EHRPS sim
I read herpes sim idk why
Now i like Preys even more, yes I may be a dick for stealing other ppls traps, because im simply faster, but i dont give a FUCK 
Up to you. I leveled as prot and im now doing tier 11 delves solo and nemesis delve. I was new to playing prot so leveling with it helps learn the class, its limits etc.
That boss you just taunt right as the adds spawn yeah? Since their stacks should drop by time adds reach them, then you swap after adds are down and rinse repeat?
if someone is already disarming and started before you, you can just... step into it 
Mob grouping question... for things like dream rift, when you go down, whats the best way to group the mobs? Just auto the minis on your way to big mob? Let someone grip them all? Spam taunt on them as you head to big one?
no way this works XD
yea, and detonating trap also gives some progress (I guess less than disarming it, and you cant get the trap for further use)
Mhmm interesting 
time to be even more of a dick
oh wait, I did all Preys already. Then its next week

Go war mode and kill ppl getting ambushed by their prey
you can do random preys
do they give any rewards?
okay thats some really evil shit LMAO
yes, you can choose between crests, prey currency, marls or something
woohoo void marl!!
dwelve maps drop from any random 8+?
item name
or you do 3 nightmare preys quest and you get the item guaranteed
to get the map
beacon of hope
if i didnt touch any prey can I get all the way to mythic pray now
rip
your only options are either 5k undercoins or pray it drops
there is also quest for 3 nightmare preys that gives one delve map
hey how much ilvl would i need to tank m0?
read above he's not getting to nightmare preys
ah sry, mea culpa
I got map from ?? Boss 
that's the pray it drops part
because tehnically ?? is a delve on it's own
I need to do ?? on druid as well for those crests
On my warrior the map dropped and I have the beacon of hope as well
The raid has just released lol
seems reasonable for a week 1 heroic pug
im more concerned with their mental if they're taking an arms
fr XD
Guess you're gonna have to be a big pug if you want to get in that one
all this ego bitching, and in a month into the season no one cares about aotc achievement lol
the normal achievement part is very reasonable for a pug how are they supposed to know you know the boss?
I nearly rage quit over that agility axe, in moment I realized I was about 3 seconds away from uninstall
Can be yes
Spanish or Chinese i think is ciao
+4
"Ciao" originates from the Venetian phrase s-ciào vostro, which literally meant "I am your slave" or "I am at your service".
I think it’s Italian
Well then
How is it both???
That’s so confusing
Are you saying hi to me or are you telling me to go away
It’s gotta be how you say it
Ciao disdainfully means go away
Ciao with a smile means hello beautiful
Yogi and Rhino learning words
Look at us go
is there like a portal room to TP to the seasonal dungeons or how do groups get there without flying endlessly to them?
this?
yes
yes, it wil have both the zone you are teleporting to
with the dungeon name
so you really truly cant get lost doing it this time round
Trinket list on wowhead is listing Alngazer and Heart of Ancient Hunger as S tier.
However, none of them are outsimming the renown trinket at equal ilvl, is the renown trinket not simming correctly, or are the other trinkets better once they are hero track and higher than the champ renown trinket?
so, also, i was asking about addons and how they are handled now
cuz some of them say "incompatible" and others say "disabled"
which i assume is essentially, very loosely "the graveyard and exile, zones. in a card game such as mtg/ygo"
like one category is its just dead and the other is its SUPER dead
i had some "spell announcer" addon, which original came from like patch 5.3 and then i guess it got updated for tww maybe bc that was what the curseforge was listing it as was like 11.5 or something
and now it says incompatible
and i read something along lines of blizzard doesnt want us to do addons that spam chat or type automatically and icon marker mobs very rapidly
so, i have no idea on what the changes are, is what im saying
wait disabled is just its turned off
im going to figure this out and try to delete the ones that arent loaidng
usually go with sims not with bis lists, can you post the sim so we can check?
Hello,
I have this macro to target and taunt:
/targetexact Target1
/cast Taunt
How can I adjust this if Target1 does not exist to target Target 2?
simple aoe sim though, but did an ST sim yesterday (in M+ spec, so not ideal) and had same results
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2FrKfJcqU7zPiwu9aNWJBa
try simming at max ilvl if you can and stick to ST sim for now
Will do, thanks!
a hero drums is a decent trinket
tumor is an aoe trinket so it kinda makes sense, especially since youre already high crit
high compared to the rest of your stats, i mean
at 6/6 vet alnseer isnt gonna beat them
primary stat will generally be better
that changes on later seasons of the expansion though
Fair, good explanation, thanks a lot
has anyone noticed any weird aggro behavior? in delves. lots of mobs turning to attack other people, especially pets, with no change to plater nameplate behavior and no real reason to have lost aggro, almost like a fixate but with no indicators of a fixate. in dungeons sometimes i feel like i'll charge into a pack and with everyone pretty far away, some will turn immediately to run to the group before i get a TC off, seems like with proximity, they shouldnt beeline for the group
no
in delves, shadowguard had the one with the beasts, so they just agro those, and thats normal
huh, wonder if it's a latency issue or something, just seems a bit off.
the only thing i noticed last night on reclears was that the lothraxion cleave is festering-like
i.e. it hits the closest target
but no outstanding agro issues
clearing out m0 so fun
seat only mildly annoying one in certain areas
place is gonna suck in M+
boss mechanics werent as tough as i expected, never played legion, but theres gonna be a lot of room for screw ups
ye
a lot of personal responsbility on the fights
What would the fastest way to get mythic crests be this week? T11 delve
no
you have to get to journey 4 before mythic crests drop in delve
thats like 16k journey and each bountiful delve drops like ~300-500 journey
Damn, wanted to juice a crafted weapon because I'm able to make a T5, RL said wait to see if you get a vault weapon lol

why do you think ive been saying craft next week
This explains it now 
does anyone know if there's any co-tank addons out there that are working for voidspire? essentially just an easy way to see cotanks current raid debuffs?
If you were to craft it would have been with vet crests
last week
hey guys. so, sorry if this seems like a stupid question. been playing wow since WotLK, but decided to start tanking this xpac. had a question about my rotation. If I don't spend rage on Ignore Pain, I spend it on revenge instead correct? And shield slam/thunder clap have priority over revenge yes?
read this#protection message
Sitting here with 2 240 weapons when the other warriors in guild have 259 is 
should have the answers you need, YnzerGod
Meh, my prot set allows me to pull dungeons to a not care state so 💪
i appreciate it! thank you
idk how people in heroic raid are doing 40k dps
honestly put on OBA at that point buddy
man I can definetly see why tanks need to slow the fuck down, as a healer it gets quite challenging to keep you alive lmao
worse if the tank forgets mobs and gets the healer killed lol
what fight
vor
i dont see that number as too high
that's my point it's super low
on a target dummy boss that does nothing
oh shrug i did 30k last night on normal but i still have an adventurer weapon
these are dps
I pulled everything in Skyreach on the first platform around a corner with a UHDK, Arcane Mage, and a destro Warlock, and the hpally said I wasn't allowed to because the group needs "small pulls to do damage"
healing myself rn, i dont care how big the pull is, aslong as the tank is able to tank it and I can heal the group
i did 44.5k last night as prot on h vorasius
ok that makes a lot of sense. if i'm trying to just get pure dps, just straight damage, do i skip ignore pain and spam revenge to burn rage? or still follow the IP rules of 70+, rage builder, revenge?
no
just had a brew gnome in windrunners atleast 35 mobs and he was playing perfectly to a point I barely had to heal him
you never skip IP
ok
using IP is key to rage use
more rage spent = more anger management
brew self heal is quite strong
sorry if this seems dumb. never tanked a day in my life after 16 years of this lol. so it feels new again lol
Never a dumb question here 
@griffgalmore Yesterday night all the trash wanted to beat up our resto druids treants all the time.
lol well i appreciate the help. so regardless, it's the 70+ rage rule, got it
it feels counterintuitive, cause ip doesn't directly do damage and revenge does
Ahh okay. Didn't know that. Annoying tho
yeah very annoying
my parses were fair, but they could have been better. so just trying to figure out what i'm doing wrong. which if that's the rule, a lot lmao
no idea why they put the dumb taunt back
I generally keep 30+ for block, outside that its damage/IP
uptime is the usual culprit
should be more impacting that anything else
uptime on....? or just damage uptime in general?
as in, hit your gcds, dont miss em, try your best to be in melee range most of the time outside of mechanics that you absolutely need to run away from
What are y’all seeing in your m0s for tank and dps damage
you can focus on the other stuff, but usually just not hitting the boss is what kills parses
i think I parsed a 77 on fallen king, like 50s-60s on the first two. averaged like 30-35k dps i think. not horrid for a first time raid as a tank, but i'd like to improve for sure
ok got it
well the IP rule will definitely help i think
because i was definitely doing that wrong
the leaderboards arent full, not enough logs, not enough sampling size, etc
oh yeah they'll change an insane amount
just wanted to see early on how it was comparing. but yeah as the weeks go it'll be totally different than it is now
M+ shouldn't be capped next week right?
nope it's the real start
Like in previous it was capped at a certain dungeon level
no
that aint a thing
you can go as high as you possibly can
with the little gear we have
i think he meant being stuck at M0 the past 2 weeks
m10 tank first week?
shoot me dude lol
the only cap is whats realistically possible
14% enrage
paladins do be topping ST
+10 for vault maybe 
no they dont be
yeah but press your buttons man
ST is generaly bad for prot paladins
unholy dk got un-nerfed yet fury and arms stil need a bit of help :((
I think fury is pretty fine
wondering if prot pally is gonna get a sneak balance in before next weeks reset. thought it was odd they went completely untouched
Does it really need help
ok office time for me ill be back later
i do wanna do better as fury in raids, but gonna spam prot cuz i seem to like tanking
i'd say it for sure needs a bit if we are comparing to other specs
damage is low outside of cd's, and it's squishy
Why would they need to be touched when they're doing just fine
??
at least from how it's felt when i play
What boss?
Hi brew
nice lol
We killed the last boss with the platform engulfed 
👋
vor lol
I kind of agree with you; im playing Prot Pal for main and BDK for split (alt) and I look over at my co-tank Brew main and Prot War alt and I'm super jelly
shaman bzz bzz alt
Did my first m0s as fury last night brew
Sick did you own?
but someone has to bring the Paladin buff
I competed with my enhance shaman friend while I’m 20 ilvls lower
Probably says more about him than me
no one believed in the Ret hype propoganda I was spreading
But we take it
just hope i can gear my alt as fast as i did tanking
Theres a DH in our group who has his 4set already, wild
i beg your finest foking pardon?
I guess he just got really lucky in LFR
Its hard when no fucking cloth tier pieces drop during raid night yeah 
shouldve went plate
Not one warrior tier dropped last night 😭 
me and pepega got juiced with int and agility weapons
int was at least on monk, so it at least can be used
So I absolutely don't want to use hero crests to upgrade my weapon, even though I got 50 uncapped crests?
Dats up to u
We get myth crests from 9s right?
9+ yes
cant really farm Myth crests atm
you can obtain some myth from Tier ?? Nulleus
theres a max limit on how many you can earn from delves I believe
yea, but you can get those anytime
I am struggling to kill the ticks on him, but I'll figure it out
20 per week from delves
not like we have any myth pieces to upgrade with
and ?? can be hard for people (prot war is chees though so maybe just send XD)
I need some help, what items am I upgrading before the raid tonight?
I have hero track 1hand (I have not used any sparks yet)
what yall raiding?
shield
heroic? how many bosses?
id hold crests until after normal, then send champ, then do heroic
you can hold hero crests
Wait the housing crest reward doesn’t apply to the cap??
maybe you send for heroic Aleria, but you should clear everything no issue with current loadout
Now I have to do it if that’s true
Yeah turbo send every crest under champ after normal raid
Thanks all
we may need to send hero crests for Heroic Alleria
Heroic bosses are beefy
but not sure yet
We’re splitting first 3 + maybe dragons and then whatever time is left we’ll do paladins on all mains and see what final looks like maybe kill maybe not
I had to st the first boss
I got some haste and crit, but I need more
Single target or sit @sharp gale
I did 25 parse on it but 100 boss dmg, I’m a good boy
I'm a dragon so I can glide hehehehe
😄
Happy the anti pad machine
I only picked Dragon for glide and champion spear + wing buffet
BREW MAKE THESE PEOPLE PRESS THEIR BUTTONS LOL

Is fury better at aoe or st
@toxic pewter I did the thing
I told them to use OBA
if they're only barely above 40k
Fury’s strength is being able to cleave 5 targets with 1 talent point
LOL
Yeah cleave is furry strength
That sounds like a fancy way of saying fury sucks
It’s actually very nice for prog
It might be turbo cracked for the raid rhino
Sucks ass on farm when adds blow up
8% wipe with bottomfeeders
The adds already evaporated in normal I had zero chance of padding
I just know one of these goobers will win loot
So fury shines with adds in raid that live
But other specs excel at single target or big aoe
dude last night went in for first heroic boss and even there people were doin like 30k and stuff literally couldnt kill due to dps
I’m destined to be mediocre
Fury is alright if a boss favors flat profile but that’s generally never the case flat sucks
Something to be said for consistant boss damage though
During prog
I had to ST the boss bc we saw enrage 
But that’s kind of coping
Lmao
B T W
MM on paladins
Absolutely busted
Our MM did like 180k-200k on that boss
Good. They are top in all bosses only bc of this boss
Idr exactly
They are god of 2T
Oh yeah I bet they’re going to get cooked but hope not
I like seeing the nieches like 2T cleave excel
We’re arms!?
Maybe next tuning
Anyone have a good solution for disabling damage meter in combat?
Tbf I didn’t expect arms to be top on a single boss but here we are brewj
Justified nerfs pre-launch
Turn your damage meters into only healing meters
Thats not a bad idea
I know, I trust Blizz with tuning since a while
I play better with the damage meter turned off
Same

But i wanna see at the end if i was suck or not
Alt tab warcraftlogs
i dont livelog because it introduces additional latency smh
Yeah shadow
I did... mediocre in normal but at the same time adds died so fast that I couldnt dot shit up
I still like to see the enemy dmg breakdown when we wipe to see if something doesn’t die bc of someone
hm whats the easiest way ofg getting coffer keys on alts? just spamming nightmare hunts?
probably did like 5k dps on that lfr boss
never checked
thats really generous assuming i got even auto attacks off
@lusty grotto oh you asked about playing around rampage, during recklessness you pretty much rampage whenever you can’t bloodbath ignoring the 100 rage condition, fill with Exe> CB
Outside of cds play 100 rage condition
Bloodbath > rampage during recklessness?
Yeah you kinda rampage bt rampage for a while in the first GCDs of reck
No
100> rage rampage
Blade storm
Odyns Fury
Bloodbath
Rampage
Execute
Crushing Blow
Where blast at
Oh I guess OF is above BB
What’s OF
Only fangs
Depends on the stacks
I mean odyns fury
What items are you guys crafting? Wep/shield?
Pins
Tnx
How long do you stay enraged for brew
The entire fight while actively hitting anything
Actually just the entire fight since enrage irl when can’t hit the boss
You’re perma enraged what the heck
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See my fury warrior breakdown must be hella fucked
How do I become like you
How come sometimes I hit blood attack and I get like one second of mad time
Because blood thirst extends enrage
And other times I hit blood attack and get like four seconds
It’s a talent
Also can refresh it
Blood thirst is giga
It also heals you lmao
Goated button
Enrage is a non-issue on fury, basically like SB / with HR on prot
Is the bigger blood attack just the same thing but more dam
Yes
Yeah but I thought it was weird how sometimes it gives you just a second and sometimes it’s a full mad bar
That’s the 4 second rhino mentioned
True ghash yes
His BT procced the BT enrage
I just wanna do that like as many times in a row as I can
Which for some reason archi says you aren’t supposed to do
😆
At least it's not arms
I will say
After playing fury for a single night
It is the only spec in the game that should use rage as a resource
Every single ability is just “I’m pissed” the button
I wish I knew the rotation better or had better gear lol
The entire flavor is being the most angry person
I agree
That’s not true for arms and prot
Delete rage on arms
I'd rather play prot
agreed
Bear is allowed to be a mad spec
Yeah I don’t mind bear doing it
bears don't feel angry tho
But neither of the other warrior specs even remotely come close to fury at being livid
I wish the big mad CD had a big mad animation
Im too bored of char turns redish or grey when avatar
Oh it def should
@dusky canopy I'm gonna mclose it bro
This is why I'd rather prot 
GreenGreen
Sadly
Or
Since you were told to dps to make the raids dps better
Show the raid leader it didn’t work so you gotta tank again
Which boss I had to st mmmh
(It totally worked looo at how good you are doing you’re killing it)
Saladbar obviously
i laughed
Prolly just get flamed for low ilvl weapons, even after asking what to do about it
You can raid with me
I will let you tank and I won’t shit on you
But I get dibs on warrior tier sorry
i should just kill voidspire first boss HC and get my guaranteed shield(lmao)
We got a DH that isnt pressing Spikes 
godspeed if you're pugging big dog
The literal millisecond it drops 
Ha what a doofus
Ill be real.... if a VDH is dying to letting spikes fall off
you shouldnt let em tank
Maybe it's an underlying reason to why I was told to hold my sparks 
I'll just go juice a 1h/Shield 🛡️when I'm told to swap
oh for sure
I wish you were allowed to just game
you are, but you also need to play well
I can’t imagine an aotc guild being so micromanagey
a tank dying cause they arent pressing their no resource cost mitagation with 100% uptime is really bad

I wish he was just allowed to game
true
So exactly what I though, thanks brew
gg should be allowed to zug zug
Doesnt vdh not keep spikes up all the time anymore, dont think its possible
But gotta play around it
Mclose dn
I got the delve fabled mount thing, I'm happy zooming
Oh i heard it didnt stay up mb
heck, theres a talent that gives you two demon spike charges which isnt taken
cause uptime is such a non issue
Yeah it's pretty easy to maintain DS now
its literally the easiest mitagation to keep up
There's the talent that extends it like HR
since its actually free
Im not a vdh fan so i havent stayed in the loop for it
It’s easier to keep up than SB?
I'm half tempted to post that log in here, but I don't want to have him flamed 
HR SB is supremely easy
Yeah it's easier
There’s anonymous logs if u really want
We don't flame logs here
Unless if you come with an attitude problem, which is not often
Was that part of how they made vdh more approachable for this expansion
Give them free mitigation you can maintain forever
amongst a lot of things
Yeah vdh is brain dead easy
VDH has been super simplified on all accounts
Yup
What did they do to frailty
you were looking for an attitude problem? I'm here!
:P <3
Almost gonna level my pally just for a second BS to craft sword/shield now
Why dude
I like Pally
Does it also amp damage to enemies debuffed with it
I think its worth to level
You're overthinking crafting it's not a big deal
prot pally in dungeons is the most fun shit
Just do the catch up to the shield/sword on war?
Paladins are our mortal enemies
Keeping up multiple rafters is expensive, trust me I maintain my army since the crafting rework
I only do Blacksmithing and Jewl
Why do you care so much about both
Ironically, the only things I ever need for recrafts on toons
Just do 2h and send free puppies to a hero shield until you have enough points to craft it or kill first myth boss
I'm preparing to be asked to swap now
you can prob walk into Mythic with a M0 shield and sword
Haven't sent the sparked 2h
tbh
Free puppies lol
Autocorrect
if you are a dps main, send all resource on dps spec
But free puppies sound good
Generally considering craftin hero 2h this week
also, if you upgrade/craft a 2h, you get free upgrades on shield and sword

we also get our 3rd craft on the first mythic vault week
Yup
by mid april youll be overloaded with more sparks then you can use
but its mid march now 

Im doing nothing so might as well eady upgrades from.m0 then too
After he makes his na character to join forces with me

Lmao
I done goofed and spent 20 champ crests on 2H off hand 263
Not sweating it though I got a handful of crest savers from raid
Still ahead
255ivl almost 256
I haven't spent any crests Champ+
Got like 120 crests left
I dont know i was think s2 but helping my guild out yesterday so they get more loot. I was just like meh. I have to like play at a high lvl i reckon to really enjoy it again. And i dont have the time for that
I cant not take it seriously which is annoying me
Like if i just didnt care i would just play, but if im raiding i need my char to be the best it can be etc and that means chore
Which i dont like
Is there a way to check ilvl across my raid group? I wanna see how 🗑️ I am
Logs
Maybe raider io too? Isn’t there a guild area
Sounds like taking it easier is the best move
Yer hence why i stepped down

Have you thought about being like a mentor coach type dude
Mentoring isn't easy
Surround yourself with like an aotc group that you outclass and help them become better
Yer i dont want to do that thanks
I did computer science tutoring in college and all it taught me is that i dont want to be a teacher
I coudl coach prots but i do that anyway for fun
Mentors need a certain type of patience that not everyone has
I enjoy prot, my fury is just.... What the fuck do you press
Hold on
I got you
100> rage rampage
Blade storm
Odyns Fury
Bloodbath
Rampage
Execute
Crushing Blow
In CDs
I was jist pressing random buttons as fury yesterday 
🧐
Itf sucks on a lot of fights mostly cause you never actually in range 
Yeah
So i understand that the weapon is prior to make, but if I already have a 246 weapon should i still make one? Also i havent got anyone to make anything for me since they updated the crafting system. i barely understand how it works
Yeah plenty of fights one of the tank is alone chilling somewhere
I think it only works well on paladin council and 2nd boss
Maybe on 1st boss
The rest nah
Next week with myth crests, yes
Ilvl > all on both weapon and shield
So should i just hold all my sparks for now?
Ilvl means higher damage that turns into AP, which is very impactful
For weapon
Ilvl means more block on shield, which is very impactful
You can craft but you will recraft next week with myth crests ideally
So don't use hero crests or you will lose those
Use vet or none
Okay, awesome. thank you
this lying rat


