protection

[lofty warren]

End of dungeon m+

[undone beacon]

Nightmare hunts oh my

[lusty grotto]

click each line and it'll give you information on it

[tribal wharf]

veteran 6/6 caps out at 250 ilvl

oh, eod is different now?

[undone beacon]

Astalor just shouted at me "KILL FOR ME, NOW"

[glad dragon]

Best enchant weapon for our spe ?

[lusty grotto]

sim question

[solid sun]

The new spider man trailer dropped

[glad dragon]

not sure what it means

[tribal wharf]

my morshu is slightly more fat

and he has a champ weapon now

[lusty grotto]

it means you sim for the best enchant

[glad dragon]

I just craft 259 sword

[daring marlin]

got you trembling huh

SISSY

[undone beacon]

👀

https://tenor.com/view/cat-whisky-gif-12800231005612919420

[tribal wharf]

he used the kill word

wihich means something dies

bad

report

ban arator

we cant have any killing in our fantasy rpg

[chrome falcon]

bountiful delve haul is good 🙂

already crafted 259 shield btw and got 250 shield and 259 shield in the same delve (from map)

🙂

[tribal wharf]

thorns

[daring marlin]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[tribal wharf]

cuztriple bramble shield

i assume shield

[daring marlin]

I'm the trinketlord

[chrome falcon]

and the Sealed Chaos Urn

[daring marlin]

I only get ass trinkets

[chrome falcon]

stuns you for 5 seconds

so is totally illegal to equip

🙂

[lusty grotto]

coughpussycough

[pastel geyser]

this happened to me with weapon... sucks

[chrome falcon]

i'll tell my healers to get a dispel weakaura when i pop it

[lusty grotto]

if only there was a way

[chrome falcon]

if it was a fear instead of a horrify it'd actually be so insane for us

[lusty grotto]

to ban shields and weapons from dropping

[chrome falcon]

like that trinket reads absolutely insane apart from the stun part lol

[tribal wharf]

i wonder if there is a haste delve shield

[lusty grotto]

hmm...

[pastel geyser]

then u get 2h wep

[lusty grotto]

alas

[chrome falcon]

yeah idk aren't there some ok on use defensive trinkets

i could have thought about it but alas

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

[pastel geyser]

but i wouldve liked a shield to drop xD

didnt craft that yet ;/

[lusty grotto]

delve trinkets lul

[chrome falcon]

any delve loot is lul next week

[lusty grotto]

pretty much

[daring marlin]

shut the hell up

LMFAOOOOO

GOD DAMN NIMCHIP LOL

[lusty grotto]

😮

matta knows im fucking with him

[pastel geyser]

well technically he is wrong cuz 2h weps still drop so u only ban shields :P

[daring marlin]

I know. Still hilarious.

[tribal wharf]

looks like there is at least 1

duno why says ilvl44

intelect

[lofty warren]

Right now before doing a dungeon or a boss I'll look at the loot table and then manually change prot/dps loot spec for each boss. Is there a better way?

[lusty grotto]

not really

thats how i do it too

i suppose you just memorize it

[meager quail]

Make a note so you only do it once

[ivory barn]

Looks like before raid I'm questing in void zone and crafting a bunch of shit

[lusty grotto]

you can also set up an MRT note or some shit

yeah mezimir got it before me

[meager quail]

Your idea is actually a great one. I usually write my notes on the screen with a sharpie.

[solid sun]

I make notes by texting my wife

I have her remind me before each boss

[vast epoch]

Based

[lofty warren]

An addon that just shows: boss, loot spec, and item for all the loot that varies loot spec would be good. Even better if it can smartly figure out if based on your gear and the possible loot which loot spec you should be in.

Even better if it shows a confirmation and all I need to do is click ok for it to change

[meager quail]

How long until the divorce is finalised?

[solid sun]

She wouldn’t do that she loves getting texts about world of Warcraft

[meager quail]

I’m actually speechless

[ivory barn]

Looks like I gotta go do seat before raid to

Patron orders seem to respawn daily?

[chrome falcon]

yeah

[chrome falcon]

i know but it still cuts deep

i'm on 4 hours of sleep because i told my guildies "text or call me when the servers come up because i want my fabled delve achievement"

then the servers came up at 4am for no fucking reason

[lusty grotto]

[chrome falcon]

trolled myself.

[lusty grotto]

that does feel bad

[ivory barn]

Did you at least get it

[vast epoch]

[jagged pier]

thats when it comes up

[chrome falcon]

yeah

worth

[tribal wharf]

so it is 100% not the midnight dungeons that are creating the "heroic dungeon" vault

[lusty grotto]

well if you didnt get it, i was gonna say dw youre a HoF in my heart

[chrome falcon]

sleep deprivation is for a day, epeen is forever

[tribal wharf]

because those are tracking properly

[lusty grotto]

[chrome falcon]

way better players than me in my guild didnt' get it because it was literally just a login check

[lusty grotto]

good shit my dude

[chrome falcon]

one of my warlocks 3 shot it as soon as he got home

[vast epoch]

Oh thought you missed out on it

[chrome falcon]

but got like 4100 or something

[vast epoch]

Nvm my sadge froge then

[chrome falcon]

anyway i gotta go lead a raid that is longer than the amount of sleep i got last night wish me luck i don't know what any of the bosses do and i'm bad at my class

wish me luck!

[jagged pier]

the leader board is so out of date only has 533 ppl on it

[lusty grotto]

best of luck and lots of caffeine

[lofty warren]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/autolootspecchanger

FYI I went digging and found this

[lusty grotto]

nice

good find

[tribal wharf]

BAMOOZLED AGAIN

sort of

healer weapon

so i can technically use it on monk

god damnit

this is wrong

[solid sun]

Yogi is a monk main

Hard to believe

[jagged pier]

yet he still endlessly chats in here

[solid sun]

lol damn

[tribal wharf]

ah, well im capped out on warrior for the week

[solid sun]

Jakey straight for the throat

[tribal wharf]

other than raid and delve

game is bamboozle machine

[solid sun]

I’m gonna bam your boozle

[tribal wharf]

thankfully kept actual weapon blue

me stupid remember

i dont know how many times i have to say it

[solid sun]

Yogi you don’t have to put yourself down

[ebon geyser]

@ionic fern here thinking i know wtf im doing lol Draught of Rampant Abandon Icon Draught of Rampant Abandon is theoretically better if you can avoid the void zones.

[tribal wharf]

i see a weapon, i try to use it

im simple man

[ionic fern]

😂

I'll add a disclaimer for you next time.

[ebon geyser]

not gonna lie i read it and was like yeah i dont trust myself

[ionic fern]

Nlg, neither do i.

[ebon geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-cooper-andrew-dance-cooper-dance-feeling-dance-dance-gif-4719076827571292026

Knowing me I will be in the void zones like

[ivory barn]

The void delve trinket that horrifies you if you don't kill something is so sus

[glad magnet]

Delve trinkets are sus

[lucid meteor]

so, what would be the best items to save heroic crests for then.

[lusty grotto]

good trinkets > chest/legs/helm > shoulders/gloves/belt/boots > bracer/belt > rings/necks

[kind talon]

This is admittedly a dumb question, but the available guides probably overlook it. How does one actually use the available adventurer/veteran crests?

[lucid meteor]

weapons last?

[lusty grotto]

chest/legs/helms have the biggest stat pool of everything you have equipped

weapons/shields are first

but youre crafting them

so it doesnt matter

[ebon geyser]

what if you craft sword and shield

[lusty grotto]

read above

[solid sun]

I thought we did the big stat items before trinkets. Maybe it depends on how good the good trinkets are?

[lusty grotto]

"good trinkets"

you wanna send upgrades on whatever impacts you the most

if you have questions, you can sim crest upgrades in raidbots

[lucid meteor]

i have allready a hc wep and have shield prority on my core for being one of the main tanks so i'm getting those there. what i'll do its what i was suggested here; upgrade the crafted 2h i made for arms using myth crests so that the upgrade of prot weapon comes free

the discount also affect shields?

[lusty grotto]

correct

for both 1h and shield

[lucid meteor]

noice

[lusty grotto]

and for an offhand 2h

if you want to go fury

[lucid meteor]

really nice, so basically a 4 for 1 deal there

[kind talon]

For example, I have 150+ adventurer crests, 55 veteran, and 15 champion. What do I actually do with them? I havent crafted anything, but also havent seen an NPC giving that option.

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

sure, just make sure to check if the upgrade is applies, if it doesnt, then you gotta spec arms and relog

[lusty grotto]

upgrade your gear

[ebon geyser]

if i make sword and shield what embellishment on shield?

[lusty grotto]

there is a quest that shows you where the npcs are that upgrade gear

[jagged pier]

None emblishment on wep or shield

Thats for back and bracers

[kind talon]

and crafting is done via the sparks?

[ionic fern]

Arcanoweave.

[lusty grotto]

you can put crests in for those

the crafts we recommend are done with myth crests

[toxic pewter]

@daring marlin did u down last boss

[lusty grotto]

and yes most of the good crafted items use 2x sparks as a bare minimum

[ebon geyser]

ohh ok , i though that was only for like armor

[solid sun]

Shields are armor

Even though they’re also weapons

[ivory barn]

I'm malding that I fucked my BS crafter up

About deleted

[lusty grotto]

you dont need to mald

just get the KP

[kind talon]

Ah, OK, I see..I was confused because it shows head, back and legs as "upgraable," but not my weapon, which is the same ilvl as those

[lusty grotto]

you have more than enough to get around the world to get the 2h node

[lusty grotto]

it has to have a track

adventurer track, veteran track

this is the track

if its crafted, you need to recraft it to add crests

you cannot do it via the npcs

[ivory barn]

Wanting to craft 2h/1h sword and shield was the only real goal 😭

[lusty grotto]

brother

you can get KP weekly (and daily from patron orders)

stop freaking out

[kind talon]

I see...thank you @lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

just get the stationary KP youre missing

[solid sun]

lol ggs has been tilting himself out about his crafting situation for like a month now

[daring marlin]

In normal? yeah

pretty fun

[tribal wharf]

im in the monk discord btw

[ivory barn]

[tribal wharf]

ill go there ask questions if i need monk help

monk talk is just just throw away monk talk

[vast epoch]

Crafted weapon with hunt embalishment and just coping i get myth track one after first m+ week latest to be able to do second arcanoweave some armor slot am i cooked

[solid sun]

Are you trying to make us feel better about you cheating on us

[ionic fern]

No.,

You can upgrade your weapon cheaper.

[jagged pier]

burnt to a crisp

[toxic pewter]

seems pretty intense so far

[jagged pier]

its the same now

[vast epoch]

Thank you frens

The no came first and i like crisp so satisfied with the answers

[solid sun]

Jakey did you craft bracer and back first

[jagged pier]

i havent crafted anything

[tribal wharf]

just saying that for future

so its not twisted

[toxic pewter]

who here got fabled achieve in EU

[jagged pier]

me

[solid sun]

Or well is that what you’re going to do when you have myth crests

[toxic pewter]

saw it went fast

[vast epoch]

Eu was slacking

[toxic pewter]

hahah

[vast epoch]

I got it accidently while waiting for partner to come back from work call

[daring marlin]

dps check can be tight on last platform if people are sandbagging

[toxic pewter]

ngl i only made it to the simulacrum phase and raidd died

[kind talon]

doing my first mythic dungeon as a tank wish me luck

[tribal wharf]

i'll be sure to join paladin and other discords if i have questions about them

[daring marlin]

Pull it all

[daring marlin]

HoW is the definitive cringecord

trust

[tribal wharf]

not a clue what it is off top of head

[ionic fern]

Oo, they actually made a reasonable decision.

[daring marlin]

I wonder how crown will be on heroic lol

[tribal wharf]

TIL you hav to take the brown ring to a rock to not get stunned by garfrost

now to implement it next time

[jagged pier]

yer

[tribal wharf]

cuz, every time i fought him before, i get stunned and what the hell is going on

[ionic fern]

When they'd do that ?

[shrewd cosmos]

I don't get it. I thought they will remove 10% slam dmg on last Affix but the dmg is still there. They just added 10 % more dmg to the first Affix ?

[lusty grotto]

yes

which is exactly what we said

[mighty valley]

they REALLY want people to take all four

[lusty grotto]

perhaps you didnt read the part that mentioned "in addition to existing effects"

[mighty valley]

to be fair, I thought there was a chance that that was the new tooltip, like "in additional to the existing effects from the first point..."

and I'm like. SO smart

[jagged pier]

i while back

like month mabye 2

[dusty orchid]

Hold w - good luck

[lusty grotto]

they did it when they removed the incrementing crest cost for upgrades

[shrewd cosmos]

So I guess tough as nails and Bloodborne go in trash

[lusty grotto]

uhhh no

[sour cloak]

are we taking any specific flask or depends on sims?

[lusty grotto]

they stay talented

[jagged pier]

haste

[sour cloak]

gotcha

[shrewd cosmos]

Then 4 points on Affexes is impossible

[ionic fern]

Nope.

[lusty grotto]

are you sure about that?

[jagged pier]

[shrewd cosmos]

Yes now yes I am talking when you get to 15 +

[ionic fern]

huh?

[lusty grotto]

good thing ive been past that

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

try higher

[toxic pewter]

wat u guys think of this

[pastel geyser]

fk sake i go fury spec to avoid 1hander and i get 2hander BRO XD

[toxic pewter]

yah fury loot spec nno longer drops 1h

[pastel geyser]

i know but i dont want either of them :D

[toxic pewter]

haha

u cannot escape the weapon

[pastel geyser]

look..

[mighty valley]

then why switch loot spec? they both have weapons you don't want

[pastel geyser]

so i get dps trinkets and ig i can use wep for offspec

[ebon geyser]

[kind talon]

got it done with no deaths

wheew

[lusty grotto]

gj gj

[daring marlin]

hell yeah ezclap

[true cove]

I need help to know what I'm crafting

I have 99 hero crests, 180 champ

[sharp gale]

before raid

[ionic fern]

Also before raid.

[plush tendon]

Why you copy my mog

[coarse bay]

Mwahi doesnt need gear, the bosses listen to his commands

[plush tendon]

[ionic fern]

It's the lazy mog.

[undone beacon]

Also before raid

[coarse bay]

[sharp gale]

COW

[plush tendon]

TBC hype!

[coarse bay]

Im gonna make a request to have different raid nights when tiers first drop

Having a day before entering raid would be nice

[daring marlin]

That would make sense

[solid sun]

I approve your request

[ivory barn]

We watched tier drop for everything but warrior token

[coarse bay]

Thank you

[daring marlin]

Never know if patch fuckery will kill servers

[lusty grotto]

yeah tuesdays is always cursed

[undone beacon]

More like Fabled Vanquisher of Nerdaeus

[coarse bay]

We experienced a thing, but im not sure how fast itll be fixed

[lusty grotto]

🤓

[solid sun]

Did anyone try relogging

[coarse bay]

Yes

We tried everything, we all unstuck and just stayed dead at entrance

Tried all being offline for 20 minutes to get kicked out

Didnt work

[ivory barn]

I got yelled at for flying around on that mount lol

[undone beacon]

why tho

[coarse bay]

So we couldnt do anything

[undone beacon]

its a cool mount

[coarse bay]

Held hostage until the npc won the fight

[ebon geyser]

has anyone tried the mage tower recently

[solid sun]

Did anyone just bail for the night

[ivory barn]

It 100% is a cool mount and I'ma keep rocking it

[ivory barn]

Prolly just salty people

[coarse bay]

Everyone except the people that were going to get the tier pieces after the boss eventually died

[undone beacon]

cool mount and cool title salty slowpokes stay mad

[solid sun]

lol

It would have been real difficult for me to stick around

[ivory barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/365602732670844939/1425909258171711571/image0.gif

[undone beacon]

i woulda alt tabbed and played something else in the meantime

enough time for a deadlock street brawl :3

[coarse bay]

Nah raid night was over for sure, we didnt expect anyone to stick around

We’re just doing another raid night this week to make up for it

[ivory barn]

My priorities yesterday was delve to T11, raid, delve boss

[undone beacon]

Like many people here, i would sell a kidney for a minor upgrade in world of warcraft so

mmhm

[ivory barn]

Like the idiot that I sold a mythic+ sac to for 250k early season

[daring marlin]

hm

[lusty grotto]

ez free month

[daring marlin]

I should send champ crests

[ebon geyser]

can u transfer crests??

[solid sun]

Nice mog

[daring marlin]

I mean to use them

lol

[undone beacon]

do it

[daring marlin]

I need to do some 0s to replace vet gear anyway

[tribal wharf]

thats a pretty good mog but i feel like needs helmet when goes into combat

like the batman or some shit

[daring marlin]

I need the prey shield and 1h sword too

damn it

I think nim has the shield

[lusty grotto]

ye and the 2h

[daring marlin]

sumbitch

I have the sword at least lol

[coarse bay]

Some people are just them yaknow

He is him

I doubt ive gotten anything cool, but i also dont pay attention

[lusty grotto]

ask me about my vaults though

[ivory barn]

Profession tools seem weird, like why the fuck are there so many to choose from

[lusty grotto]

wym

theres 3

with 3 levels

green blue purple

[solid sun]

How do we feel about four hour raid nights

[lusty grotto]

important

or else youll get TWW and DF tools

[mellow minnow]

yo guys it is worth to craft a one handed with the hero crest? or just wait

[ivory barn]

That's what did it....

[lusty grotto]

not worth to spend hero crests, just use myth crests next week

[mellow minnow]

tyty

[lusty grotto]

uh huh, so theres 6 total

3 green, 3 blue

cause the epics are BoP

[ivory barn]

Appreciate you!

[lusty grotto]

so you absolutely need to make a crafting order for them or craft them yourself

[daring marlin]

OH MY GOD YES

When I saw that filter I was like "thank god"

[lofty warren]

Is that even legal?

Cruel and unusual punishment is what comes to mind

[coarse bay]

Thats a stretch for a lot of people. You already notice performance drop off at 3 hours with a lot of people

Youd need some nice breaks

[solid sun]

One 15 minute break at the two hour mark

[ivory barn]

We have a 2 1/2 hour 2 night with a 10min break

[solid sun]

The content is N and H. No M

[coarse bay]

Did u find a guild?

4 hours 1 night a week isnt a bad thing tbh

[daring marlin]

agree

[coarse bay]

And later in the season u wouldnt take 4 hours

[solid sun]

Well

They…. Would

It takes them a long time to complete aotc

[coarse bay]

As long as its chill and the vibes are good

4 hours of people not respecting each others time can be grating at times

Thats a very long raid for an aotc guild

[solid sun]

I would have to complete an interview and explain why two of their people joined me for m+ last season instead of guild m+

[lofty warren]

I wonder what the raid participation numbers would be if you could get myrhic gear from m+ (not spammable but some capped system that can drop mythic eod at a high enough level that was capped and shared a cd with myrhic raid so it was like a choice if you want to try getting nyrhic item from raid or key)

[coarse bay]

[ivory barn]

Think I'ma get both mining and blacksmith tools and go mine a shitload of ore

[lusty grotto]

why

get blacksmithing tools first

all 3 of them

[coarse bay]

Wouldnt hurt to try it out if the times work out for you and you like them. N/H is super flexible

[lusty grotto]

you can do mining tools after youve gotten the skill for your main profession, not the gathering one

[hazy crest]

Damn I need that prey sword. Does it just drop from the pinnacle cache after doing hard + prey?

[lusty grotto]

it drops from any prey

it just has to be the first two

[ivory barn]

Ok

[lusty grotto]

so first 2 normals, first 2 hard, first 2 nightmare ones

[hazy crest]

oh shit

so I should be doing normals

Do I have to do Prey's first before opening other pinnacles? Since only like the first what, 4 offer gear

[safe jolt]

Hey everyone. I have a broad question. Are any of the delve trinkets any good? Prey and Delves seem to only want to give me trinkets. I got a Holy Retributor's Order with avoidance on hero track and a Bark of the Guardian Tree on champ track with leech

[lusty grotto]

first two offer gear

of each diffy

[hazy crest]

ok, thanks for that

[lusty grotto]

if you havent unlocked hard or normal, then idk

[lusty grotto]

sim

to raidbots.com you go

[safe jolt]

For damage, sure. But also for tankiness.

[lusty grotto]

bark is pretty bad

[safe jolt]

Yeah it looked like it lol

[lofty warren]

Doing 6 of those pteys just for 2x 250 ilvl seems like a pita. How long does each one take?

[lusty grotto]

but you can sim the other one

either way bark has a damage part, so you sim that too

[safe jolt]

K. It seemed to do a fair bit of my healing in raid last night

[kind talon]

not much else to do to be fair

[safe jolt]

(the holy retributor's order i mean)

[lusty grotto]

unless you have a trinket that is SOLELY defensive, meaning it provides 0 damage

you sim it

the stats you gain, the whatever damage it does yield numbers

[lofty warren]

How long does each prey take

[kind talon]

my hard versions were like 20 mins

I havent tried nightmare

[safe jolt]

If you do it passively with WQs, like 30 minutes. If you do it as fast as possible 10-15 minutes.

Also, Ive seen people post screenshots of literally 5 minute clears but i havent been able to do that lol

[outer willow]

My fastest was 7 min

All I did was fly to the WQ, click on traps

Keep clicking on traps

Boom prey spawn

[lofty warren]

Are the normal/heroic/myrhic preys unlocked warbound? Like if I do all that bs on my pwar can my brew log in and do the myrhic version right away?

[outer willow]

Also a fun tip - You can do a ton more if you just choose “give me a random prey”

Unlimited crests lol

[ebon geyser]

yes

[coarse bay]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

up until the weekly cap

[kind talon]

I didnt know this, sweet.

[ivory barn]

Does that cap the gear tho 🧐

[lofty warren]

What are the most efficient sources of champ currency? No raids and also exclude dwelve with keys/map

[coarse bay]

Probably m0

[lofty warren]

Thought those give veteran currency

[coarse bay]

I havent done them yet but i thought theyd move up to champ

Someone who’s done them this reset can confirm

[lusty grotto]

they drop champ loot

and thus

drop champ crests

[coarse bay]

[lofty warren]

How many currency per dungeon? I see thay 400 cap so just thinking about the # of dungeons to spam

[lusty grotto]

the fuck i know

but i got those from them

doing all 8 last night

i havent done raid, so thats and preys are the only source

besides normal raid

what does it matter

youll get hero loot next week and completely skip champion gear

if anything you use them to up the champ gear (after you get the hero piece) so that you get free ups on hero gear from 1 to 3/6

[lofty warren]

I can clear a dwelve 8 in like 5 min i assume that is only with key upgrade

[nova gorge]

Is there a certain way to properly sim prot warriors? It looks like in the sim they are using revenge a bunch, and not pressing IP that often.

[ionic fern]

That doesn't sound right.

[lusty grotto]

st you do 3mins or 5 mins and 1x patchwerk

[outer willow]

If I choose to not believe in a weekly cap…

[lofty warren]

Heroic currency this week drops from heroic raid, dwelve super boss, anywhere else?

[nova gorge]

I could just be dumb. The sim used revenge 33 times in a 5 min patchwork. (maybe I'm not using revenge enough)

[lusty grotto]

link the sim

[ionic fern]

That doesn't seem too much.

[nova gorge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qwxvcy6x12jjLn6vVBwSJk

[ionic fern]

It used 85 IP's.

vs 33 Revenges.

🤷

[nova gorge]

virgin prot warrior here, still learning what's normal 😄

[lofty warren]

Ip used a bunch bc gcds used up by more important abilities

[ebon geyser]

fml

[lusty grotto]

seems fine to me

[ionic fern]

Naa, that sim is fine.

[nova gorge]

Cool, ty for the confirmation.

[ionic fern]

You do use Revenge - just don't prioritize it over SS/TC.
You use Revenge when TC/SS are on CD .

[nova gorge]

I'm sure it's a lot different too in raid vs. mythic+

[ionic fern]

Nope.

[nova gorge]

Haha, all good then - I'll get used to things then. Just gotta adjust a little bit. Appreciate it wise one.

[true cove]

w

[kind talon]

Should nightmare preys automatically unlock after the 2x hard preys?

[undone beacon]

no, theres a quest you do when you're renown 4 with prey

[kind talon]

thanks!

[lofty warren]

Does the dwelve super boss keep giving currency each reset?

[ebon geyser]

god making weapons made a huge dif..

[ivory barn]

Yeah, I'm roasting myself for being dumb

[ionic fern]

What did you do?

[ebon geyser]

it would have made a dif yesturday but ohh well

[lofty warren]

Im not crafting sheet until I get myrhix currency and I buy myrhic weapon. Is that wrong

[ivory barn]

Just need to catch up and put more points in places

[ebon geyser]

im never gonna touch mythic so

[ivory barn]

Only end goal is 2h/1h sword and a shield

[kind talon]

the shields come from blacksmithijng?

[ivory barn]

Armorsmith yeah

[kind talon]

ahh

i never got into professions

[solid sun]

Late lunch today

It’s pupusa time

[kind talon]

is there a way to get new preys while out and about, or do you need to check in at silvermooon each time?

[ebon geyser]

.. from nightmare hunts

[ivory barn]

Nimchip showed me I didn't mess up to bad, just need to get the KP

[solid sun]

Ggs I need you to drink a beer

Or four

[ivory barn]

I'm almost a year sober, that stuff is bad

[outer willow]

Yo congrats.

[solid sun]

Gonna xfer to your server so I can hook you up with crafts so you never have to worry about it again

Congrats

[outer willow]

I’m trying to smoke less weed.

I admire your self control

Here’s a question for all of you: What do you bind your IP and SB to?

[ionic fern]

Ctrl+F / 4

[outer willow]

I bind mine to mousewheel up and mouse wheel down

[solid sun]

SB is 4 and IP is E

[undone beacon]

F1 and F2

[kind urchin]

I use a keyzen so the binds are technically 3 and 8

[kind talon]

did you guys realize there's a portal that spawns post-prey completion? it was so feint I missed it the first several times

[ivory barn]

Ummm shouldn't I just be able to x-server send you a craft request if that were the case?

[ivory barn]

That stupid ducking portal had cause me to miss loot

[graceful kite]

Is wowhead raid build optimal dps or should i switch to collo

[undone beacon]

We reccomend Icy Veins guides

MT is better than Col rn though, but its marginal

[kind talon]

highly silly question - how does one chck their prey renown?

[undone beacon]

Adventure Journal -> Journeys

[ivory barn]

Shift - J and bottom of the page

[kind talon]

Ah!

[ionic fern]

What does it suggest?

[lofty warren]

I have sb on f and ip on r super comfoetable

[graceful kite]

I'm just in a weird sutuation, my internet is dead but somehow wow still works and im in raid rn

[tribal wharf]

could be automatic throttle

after X gigabytes downloaded some internet companies will limit rate you

[daring marlin]

68k overall in mgt

I can do more

[tribal wharf]

looks like they fixed the heroic dungeon vault thing

is monk

[lusty grotto]

nice

[ivory barn]

Looks like I need to bang out 8 m0's

[tribal wharf]

only boss we wipe to is the second in seat

[narrow thicket]

Anyone tried Knight-Commander's Palisade? Or know its proc rate?

[tribal wharf]

cuz i had a hard time knowing why i was getting disorient and that i have to put my thing on blue ball

[lusty grotto]

2.5 ppm

[narrow thicket]

Ugh thats awful

[lusty grotto]

dont go perma embelish gear

ever

[tribal wharf]

without a clear video, i will have to do the fight 5-10 times to realize what im supposed to be doing

[narrow thicket]

I wasnt. I was just curious about it

Thanks for the info

[tribal wharf]

the effect seems, incredibly weak

unless the tooltip is wrong or it can proc every second

shield for 1250, which is huge, and if it fades it blows up for like 800 dmg

[lusty grotto]

its 2.5 ppm

not "every second"

i answered it a few lines above

[tribal wharf]

so about a 20 second cd in practice

[narrow thicket]

10min boss fight it procs about 25 times and blocks 25k damage.

[tribal wharf]

25k in total?

[narrow thicket]

If it had a 1 sec proc it would block 300k damage in a 5min fight and do about 200k damage

I dont think that would still make it worth

[tribal wharf]

just add 1-2 zeros behind the numbers

[narrow thicket]

It only blocks 1k right?

Or is it 100k

If it blocks 100k damage 2.5ppm then thats not awful

[solid sun]

Unholy getting buffed

Brew gonna go nuclear

[lusty grotto]

yes

no perma embelish piece has ever been good

this is no exception

its not just that the effects are subpar

but that you have no choice but to forfeit 1 of your 2 embelish slots

[solid sun]

When it procs half a time does it only block 500

:>

[lusty grotto]

and no way to change it but to craft a completely different piece

[narrow thicket]

Yea

Thats why I said itlf it blocked 100k damage 2.5ppm and do about 50k damage each time. It would be decent then

But the 1k just makes it look bad

I was gonna do the primary embellish

[lusty grotto]

at 100k it would be flat out broken

[daring marlin]

tfw the ret keeps bracers cuz he needs them "for stats" when he already has champ bracers

not gonna help you beat tanks big dog

dogshit

[tribal wharf]

you know how combat rogue was completely out of date

so they removed it

do that with arms warrior

[solid sun]

Yogi don’t alienate me

[tribal wharf]

im not sure i have seen an arms warrior

thus far

[lusty grotto]

why is arms catching strays

what brought about the arms discussion?

[solid sun]

I mentioned it because unholy is getting buffed

Brew gonna see it and be mad

[lusty grotto]

what does unholy have to do with arms

[tribal wharf]

cuz, if i want to do the lfr i dont have purpl 2 handers

let alone 2

of them

cuz i dont feel like ruin the raid for ppl as tank

[lusty grotto]

..what?

[tribal wharf]

want to go run it as dps

[solid sun]

Last time I saw specs that weren’t arms get buffed I saw him make a comment about it.

I pay attention

[lusty grotto]

im having problems following the line of thinking here, we were just discussing a perma embelish

[vivid orchid]

often the only good perma embellish items in general have been mail items for whatever reason

sometimes a jewellery item

[lusty grotto]

and leather bracers

[vivid orchid]

yea those too

never plate or things we use though

[tribal wharf]

did you still suggest no to baseline crafting

[lusty grotto]

you can craft but dont use crests

[tribal wharf]

i could hit the button if i want to riight now

[lusty grotto]

sure

just make sure you recraft it with crests next week

myth crests

[daring marlin]

only a 3pip smh

[lusty grotto]

was secretly hoping nightmare preys would be harder

but its fine ig

[daring marlin]

hopefully they add another difficulty

[lusty grotto]

ye

[vivid orchid]

I dont think they could ever make this kind of content hard for tank specs

[daring marlin]

sure they could

by adding harsh enrage timers

[ivory barn]

Do you just buy the extra crap for the patron orders and send it?

[green frost]

Grats to you all getting Hall of Fame, got him first try home from work (had a few tries before work).

[ivory barn]

Nicely done

[tribal wharf]

i dont have any myth stones at all

i have lbl 7 for delve unlocked

[remote ocean]

is this just once per account or once per character?

[green frost]

pr acc

[remote ocean]

lame. ty.

[onyx hearth]

Field dressing or Overhelming rage?

[mighty valley]

I take neither in anything that needs CC and probably both in raid, idk

[remote ocean]

is there a reason to do a 11 delve this week?

[daring marlin]

I did it for kicks

[solid sun]

Achievements

For fun

To feel alive

[safe jolt]

I did it for kicks - and to have an earlier date on the achievement

[lusty grotto]

i like that the echo of predation is just the corruption ghost from bfa

well kind of

i doubt it 1 shots you

but reminds me of that

[misty spade]

What are you guys gonna craft ?

[lusty grotto]

[mighty valley]

the ilvl of the gear at the end never goes up past tier 8

you get a trickle of crests for going higher

[remote ocean]

theres no cracked keystone right

[vivid orchid]

who knows, not even m+ rn so

[lusty grotto]

there is

but you cant complete it

[remote ocean]

OH

oh ty

[tribal wharf]

we all knew it was going to happen this way

[dusky canopy]

@daring marlin Weapon haver

[outer willow]

Alright. Let’s crush some m0s and get zero gear

Here we go

Seat is up first.

[lusty grotto]

i got me emberdawn defender last night 🙂

[daring marlin]

I got bellamy 2h and crown 1h yesterday

[tribal wharf]

what about opening end of run chests for delve

is there certain lvl hold my key till

running 7 now

[lusty grotto]

i have it all

big uppy too

[daring marlin]

killer

[lusty grotto]

ah fuck thats a 2h, wth

where my 1h

well its good either way i have 2 champs 2h now

[paper stone]

does it make sense to macro together Ravager and Avatar ? 😄

[lusty grotto]

no

[paper stone]

like one big dps button

[lusty grotto]

use whirling blade

not ravager

we used ravager on the nemesis fight, only for on-demand add burst, for everything else you use whirling blade

[toxic pewter]

wiped final boss at like 6%

got dps doing 20k

what in the world is going on this season

im LOSING IT

[solid sun]

tag me in coach

[toxic pewter]

like what in the world is going on here

[solid sun]

i'll secure the kill for captain apb

[toxic pewter]

im raging over here dude

like the raid leader dk

21K DPS LOL

[solid sun]

apb is reminding me of that SNL skit where the dude was doing an impression of tucker carlson

Everything ended with "What is happening? What are we doing?"

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[solid sun]

So funny

[toxic pewter]

dude maybe that where i got it

XD

[lusty grotto]

apb it hasnt been any different in any other expansion release

you have people that havent played for expansions coming back

or only did s1 TWW and came back

its fine, if they are underperforming, they get filtered out anyway

with time

[solid sun]

apb make this your coach era

coach up the people lagging behind

Give the unsolicited advice, it always goes over well

[daring marlin]

how lol

what classes are they

[solid sun]

raid leader is a DK doing 21k

[coral quartz]

Guys looking at the opener visual i dont have enough rage to shield block as i charge in on an initial pull

[lusty grotto]

demo first

if youre looking at wowhead's visual

[daring marlin]

This is your moment @toxic pewter tell 'em to use tye 1 button assist

[lusty grotto]

our mods are updating icyveins

[daring marlin]

They will unironically do more damage that way

[lusty grotto]

not wowhead

and while some of the talent sections were just updated, some of them are different that what we recommend and other sections might be outdated

so stick to icy-veins

and use demo first to get rage

[toxic pewter]

i left but i would do that if i was still there

[toxic pewter]

lol dude i have done that before and baically get removed

[lusty grotto]

[daring marlin]

yes hellow could the dps please use their buttons?

[toxic pewter]

i dont even know whats going on

IM STRUGGLING IN NORMAL

[daring marlin]

nightmare prey was a cakewalk on my 232 lock too dang

sadge

[toxic pewter]

maybe its me...

no.. surely it must be the others..

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/skinner-skinnerkids-kids-gif-23476710

[toxic pewter]

i am basically skinner

just balder

and more out of touch

[solid sun]

@lusty grotto how do I gain an idea if I'm doing fury correctly or not

Like when I'm playing prot I can tell when I do a goof pretty easily

[daring marlin]

For the love of god beat the tanks

I beg

[solid sun]

I have no idea how to do that as a dopey fury warrior

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xbNRuo1xEk

[coral quartz]

opkay thank you

[tribal wharf]

pov yogi come back to do keystones

[toxic pewter]

thank you for posting this

[lusty grotto]

sim and compare with a dummy

outside of raids, obviously you want to log in those

[tribal wharf]

we are all skinner in a ways

[solid sun]

Did y'all see this blood elf named HARRIS

It's absolutely sending me rn

[lusty grotto]

ah yes good ole Harris

hmm... it seems prey is difficult for some people

judging by the corpses

i wouldnt be surprised but for some reason i am

[tribal wharf]

probably glass cannon dps builds

if i had to make a guess

or monster hits hard as hell

[lusty grotto]

sick

finally got it

[undone beacon]

I have died once to prey, on an undergeared hunter fighting one of the elite rares in ZA. I felt dumb and stupid

[lusty grotto]

paired with good ole red mage tower chain ball flail

big good

[dusky canopy]

that is badass bro

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/right-to-jail-jail

[dusky canopy]

you guys need golf t8? i have room for tank or heal

[daring marlin]

this is whacky

[lusty grotto]

golf?

[dusky canopy]

gulf

[daring marlin]

my lock got 233 preyseeker staff last week and a champ one trhis week

wtf lol

[dusky canopy]

ive gotten 3 champ weapons from delves

xD

[daring marlin]

I look forward to doing delves on him

idk what to make valeera tho

[lusty grotto]

dps or no balls

[dusky canopy]

always dps helper

even as dps

[torn gulch]

I have a 259 drums of renewed bonds
what stat should i attune it to haste or crit?

[dusky canopy]

haste

[lusty grotto]

yeah probably

[torn gulch]

looks like a decent trinket

[dusky canopy]

you want all the haste until like 1100

[lusty grotto]

most us are under the itf swap yeah

im thinking it might be a s2 option only

like the past 2 exps

[dusky canopy]

I'm at 895 right now

lots of ilvl to gain still

[jagged pier]

Nah i reckon u can get there im at 700 and something and missing loads of haste on gear

[lusty grotto]

yeah possible, just not for everyone

[steep wedge]

Does anyone have a link to the SR/Blockable list?

[dusky canopy]

only my shoulders & chest lack haste stat

all other items have it

im at 895

itll be close

[lusty grotto]

not updated yet, but there's one in maxroll

that you can use meanwhile

[steep wedge]

Thank you

[lusty grotto]

feelsbadman

but im 243

[dusky canopy]

I dont even sim at start of expact

i just go haste

i do not like playing the game with balls haste

[torn gulch]

damn method says that the drums on hero track are a very strong trinket

[dusky canopy]

yes drums

the crit proc

is wicked good

you wwant that

[torn gulch]

so do i keep it on crit or change it to haste

[dusky canopy]

I still would go haste if it were me

i should have just said "the proc is good"

[toxic pewter]

i got one hero version from delve map

[dusky canopy]

you can go either for calue

I dont have a map

sadge

[toxic pewter]

wait really

its guaranteed

1 per week

[torn gulch]

i got it from the map as well and i heard it's very good

[dusky canopy]

from where

[toxic pewter]

hmmmmmmm

[torn gulch]

3 nightmare prey quest

[toxic pewter]

so u get that item that summons the boss

ya

[torn gulch]

or dropping in delves

i got both this week

[toxic pewter]

this item summons the nemesis

and nemesis drops map guaranteed

[torn gulch]

or 5k undercoins

[dusky canopy]

3 bountiful done

no map so far

[torn gulch]

but 3 nightmare preys are aa very good way

[dusky canopy]

OH thats from nightmares

dude i need to do that

[lusty grotto]

is it not unlocked via delve renown anymore?

[dusky canopy]

can i use the map in non bountfiful?

[torn gulch]

i've seen it at the vendor straight away

[torn gulch]

yes

you only get the trove at the end

[lusty grotto]

thats great then

[torn gulch]

and it needs to be 8+

[torn gulch]

5k undercoin is a lot

[lusty grotto]

yeah for week 1 it is

im just glad its not locked behind a renown level though

the cost is consistent with TWWs

[torn gulch]

it was 2k in tww

[lusty grotto]

was it?

[torn gulch]

yes

i bought it multiple times

[lusty grotto]

[torn gulch]

both season 2 and 3

the goblin emmiter and the void crystal kyvessa baiter

[lusty grotto]

big sadge then

i liked it for gearing up alts

[torn gulch]

big

don't know what to pair it with i have the singularity trinket

and the blinding vale sapling

[toxic pewter]

oof lol

thought those were something other than a trinket doh

[lusty grotto]

@dusky canopy are you optimizing apex as fury in some way?

like how many stacks of berserk etc

[dusky canopy]

nah send it

[lusty grotto]

ez

[winged oar]

any idea if you get anything for killing Nullaeus on ?? now that the 4000/4000 has been completed? I keep getting him to 5ish percent wondering if I should keep beating my head into the wall rn lmao

[lusty grotto]

sure you get the achieves and the mount

[torn gulch]

you get everything else except the title

[undone beacon]

You still get a title, a mount, a cosmetic helm, crests, etc

[lusty grotto]

just like ye olde TWW nemesis

[toxic pewter]

def worth doing still

[torn gulch]

you get 60 hero and 30 myth outside the cap, a mount, title, cosmetic helm etc

[lusty grotto]

[winged oar]

OH okay

[strange cove]

you get 5 myth crests for the kill idk if that's farmable or just 1 time

[lusty grotto]

1 time

and those do count for the cap

but you can get those in normal

hard mode gives you the uncapped ones

oh wait

i see what youre saying, idk tbh

wouldnt make sense for them to be uncapped

[torn gulch]

i ended the week with 180 hero crests and 30 myth

[lusty grotto]

80 uncapped

hero

[torn gulch]

yes

[undone beacon]

ended the week
its wednesday smh

[lusty grotto]

30 uncapped myth

[torn gulch]

yes

[lusty grotto]

the rest of the hero/myth crests are just delve/prey/raid

[torn gulch]

we re gonna have another 20 myth and 20 hero uncapped next week

[tribal wharf]

is incompatible "ban and restricted list" for wow addons

jsut cant use them

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/psp1g-what-1

[tribal wharf]

so i should delete them off my pc?

[torn gulch]

[lusty grotto]

can you provide more context?

that kinda came out of the blue

[tribal wharf]

in mtg if its on the ban and restricted list, you cant use that card

you can have it, but you cant use it,

asking if same in wow

for addon

[lusty grotto]

are you asking if you should delete your WeakAura addon or something?

[lofty warren]

weak auras illegal midnight

[lusty grotto]

if so, sure i guess?

[tribal wharf]

well basically any of them that would say incompatible right

[lusty grotto]

so WeakAuras and OmniCD

if so, yes

no reason to hoard them

[tribal wharf]

i'll prune them eventually then i guess

[lofty warren]

anyone have a way to make the DEBUFF BORDER different color IF you can use dwarf dispel to get rid of it??

[spice iron]

A crafting question:
I sent a spark on the weapon, and the crafting recommendation says cloak/wrist as the second one
Larias' Google doc however says that you also should craft embellishments with veteran crests on weak slots
Do you send four crafts if you don't have full champion track?
"Before raid, spend all your Adventurer, Veteran, and Champion Crests upgrading everything that you possibly can. These will be worthless starting next week when you’re able to slam M+ for Heroic track items." and I assume this goes for before you enter hc, and not normal?
If you're supposed to do veteran crafting, do you not get more bang for your buck if you upgrade veteran gear instead of crafting?
Sorry if obvious questions, I've just gotten analysis paralysis after so much reading

[lusty grotto]

the crest recommendation is for non crafted gear

and the crafting recommendation is not cloak/wrist as the second one, see pins

[torn gulch]

you make weapon/shield unless you rad mythic and think you have a chance to myth weapon/shield

[lusty grotto]

unless you think you will kill first myth boss within next week

[torn gulch]

as far as i know

[spice iron]

The second one is the shield, but I expect to clear the first boss on mythic next week/the week after

[lusty grotto]

then sure follow larias'

[lofty warren]

larias has a weekly checklist addon I intalled but dont see sheet

[spice iron]

Type /lcl

[lusty grotto]

the veteran crafted gear will get upped to myth anyway next week

[dusky canopy]

type /larias

[lusty grotto]

i.e. the weapon

no reason to up a vet track crafted bracer

[lofty warren]

too many words aint nobody got time for that

[lusty grotto]

bracers are one of the weakest pieces statwise, which is why we put embelishments there (or on cloak)

you can just replace those with myth or hero tracks

so no reason to up them

if that clears up anything

[spice iron]

I'm still a little bit confused however, sorry if I'm speaking in circles
I'm aiming to avoid bracers as a craft, because they're readily available on the first bosses, and the cloak comes later
So should I get that spark cloak slammed now?
And with the veteran crafts, they should then be ignored, since I already have the embellishments on the cloak, and weapon?
So then all crests should be used to increase ilvl as much as possible, but champion crests should be waited with until normal is finished, and used before entering hc?

[lusty grotto]

youre asking a lot of questions in one message so let me try to break it down

[daring marlin]

@lusty grotto has your valeera bugged out on alts ever?

[spice iron]

Yeah, sorry, not a fan of several individual messages

[lusty grotto]

should you craft cloak over bracers? sure go for it

[daring marlin]

mine won't change anything or do anything in the delve

[lusty grotto]

but keep in mind

that just because bosses have bracers on their loot table does not guarantee that you will get the drop

should you ignore vet crafts if embelishments are done? no

youre preparing for prog, any power is welcome

embelishment-less or not

[spice iron]

That's true, I'm just hedging my bets with their placements in the raid, so I'm technically more likely to get bracers than a good cloak

[lusty grotto]

the last question is correct, you wanna use champ crests to skip some upgrades after you get hero loot

[tribal wharf]

im looking at it and the set pieces arell are haste and whatever, but not gloves, so maybe i make second craft gloves, or later craft

[lusty grotto]

example:

[tribal wharf]

i dont think i will have 4/4 any time soon

[lusty grotto]

you have champ bracers

you get hero bracers

you up champ bracers to 6/6

congrats you skipped 2 upgrades worth hero crests on your hero bracers using champ crests on your champ track piece

i.e. 40 hero crests

[lusty grotto]

then go with what you feel is best

[alpine goblet]

Anyone got a good Co tank frame addon?

[spice iron]

So I should still craft with my veteran crests;
Spark the cloak;
And should the champion crests be used a little more cautiously to optimize crests more, or is that just completely overthinking it and the upgrades should get slammed, slammed, slammed?

[lusty grotto]

you want to optimize champ crests to skip hero crest upgrades, yes

ideally

[chrome falcon]

is it true that m0 daily lockout

people keep saying it in my guild but i have seen 0 blue posts about it

[spice iron]

Yes

[spice iron]

So optimal would technically be to wait for a hero drop > upgrade that champion equivalent to save crests > after raid is done just upgrade as much champion gear as possible before spamming m+ next week?
Or is our 400 crests enough to just upgrade all champion drops before hero drops?

[lusty grotto]

wait for the hero drop

[ivory barn]

255 is fine

[spice iron]

Ok, thank you for your help

[tribal wharf]

my shield will be rank 4 when recraft

take me like, 1 -2 hour to farm that ore, less

[narrow thicket]

Is permafrost ess not worth mentioning as a trinket or something? Can't find info on it. It seems ok to me for giving 20%+ crit while in huge mobs in dungeons

[tribal wharf]

if from den no

u literal cant even enter that dungeon on mythic, and i think heroic

[narrow thicket]

Umm I have the trinket at 240 right now

[tribal wharf]

if its highest item level or has okay effect, maybe use it for a filler.

[narrow thicket]

I got it in mythic

[tribal wharf]

until you find something champ

seasonla

[narrow thicket]

I mean I was just curious for M+ at the start possibly

I already have Heart of Ancient Hunger and Light Company Guidon

But was curious about swapping the light company for something else in dungeoons

[lusty grotto]

just sim it

whether its mentioned or not, does not matter, if it sims high you equip it

especially secondary stat trinkets

and yes the sim reflects defensiveness since crit provides parry

more dps gained from crit, means you will gain more defensiveness, if that makes sense

[narrow thicket]

I dont think this is very effective in a ST situation is the only thing

If It procs enough maybe in ST

[lusty grotto]

right it has less value in ST

because of the on hit thing

but that does not mean it wont perform well

[narrow thicket]

True

[lusty grotto]

brand was like that and it was a hard bis last season

on hit, i mean

[lusty grotto]

on any target count