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lusty grotto
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not really

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you get the normal mode counts with the ?? kill

ivory barn
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We had 3 fury dps in raid last night both of them outside of me have 2 259 weapons

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I have a 240 and a 237 sadge

jagged pier
drowsy comet
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Its me peepoHappy

solid sun
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@frosty mango burner stealth raiding in retail?

lusty grotto
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day 1 parse blue?

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that aint roid

solid sun
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Yeah itโ€™d be green

lusty grotto
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getting orange day 1 is prety fucking easy

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i mean maybe on warrior

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but he would orange that shit on bear for sure

ivory barn
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That is overall for the night

lusty grotto
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why would you

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post overall for the night

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lmao

solid sun
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Iโ€™m just being silly

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Roid is good

lusty grotto
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thats just weird

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posting overall for the night, like that metric matters

ivory barn
lusty grotto
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i guess it matters for officers if people are afking or something but shrug

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during trash i mean

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but sometimes you just gotta afk during trash ๐Ÿ™‚

solid sun
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@dusky canopy do I have to press whirlwind as thane fury

lusty grotto
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no

lusty grotto
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you press clap

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clap does everything whirlwind does

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it gives you the whirlwind buff

solid sun
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Okay I thought so

lusty grotto
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etc

ivory barn
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Meh the raid let me go do fabled so I can't get mad at it

lucid meteor
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didnt made it to the hall of fame ๐Ÿ˜ข

lusty grotto
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are you EU?

lucid meteor
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i though i had time, there were still 2000 free spots by the time i went to bed nearly 2 AM, by the time i woke up at 6AM they were all taken

lucid meteor
lusty grotto
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we could have told you

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before you tried it

ivory barn
warm pond
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EU is also full

lusty grotto
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it wasnt an hour ago

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so it was recent for EU

lucid meteor
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honestly the only reason i didn't killed him at night was because it was 2AM and i though it would take time, since all previous nemesis have took me several tries, have i knew he was so easy i would have killed him last night. I literally killed him on the first try after just watching a video.

warm pond
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EU cut was 1429ish

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Missed HOF by a few seconds

lusty grotto
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there are some

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weird low level entries

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that will probably get removed

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so just pray you get in due to that

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i guess

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some people abused scaling

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stat scaling

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and that will 100% get them removed

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i.e. check the leaderboards and anyone doing it on a level 81 or anything other than a 90 will

warped sentinel
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Where do you see its full?

lusty grotto
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dataforazeroth

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just google data for azeroth and youll get it

ivory barn
lusty grotto
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that doesnt work for what im mentioning

ivory barn
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Oh

warped sentinel
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ah yep..

dusky canopy
warped sentinel
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Was trying for a while now, ppl said it was ez, both prot and fury but i guess skill issue ๐Ÿ˜…

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didnt have dps for last phase as prot

lusty grotto
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its a simple fight yes

lusty grotto
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but you have to perform

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especially since we're in week 3

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limited by gear

lucid meteor
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probably the easiest nemesis so far. No rng, no annoying mechanics, no Brann sabotaging the encounter by rooting himself on the floor when he is supposed to be completing a triangle or filling your screen with visual noise when you have your eyes peeled out for 1 shooting clones.

lusty grotto
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agreed

warped sentinel
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Yeah, im 244. Idk what i did wrong tbh, i just got to last phase, and he was all enraged like crazy and oneshot me through defensives with the tank bust

lusty grotto
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

warped sentinel
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But ohwell, its full, ill wait til later then ๐Ÿ˜„

ivory barn
lusty grotto
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i did the last phase without lust, at 236, and i just burned wall on every buster

half jewel
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I did it after raid last night and the only thing I didn't like was the ogre add. Otherwise I think we have it pretty easy with being able to reflect the dot every cast

lusty grotto
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with a 6/6 adventurer 1h which i still have

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so thats a huge dps loss, but also im a one trick prot so experience helps

half jewel
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I probably could have lusted twice with how long it took me lol. But slow and steady got me the kill so I am happy

plush tendon
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I have to try ?? On pal and dk now

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Will prob come down to how hard does his buster hit a non warrior ๐Ÿ˜‚

lusty grotto
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its super easy as brew

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havent tried on dk

plush tendon
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I donโ€™t play brew

lusty grotto
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and you know how i feel about prot pally

lucid meteor
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with shield block alone it hit me about 3/4 of health, with IP on top about just 40%

lusty grotto
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punish helps

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but it requires you to do the correct rotation

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or priority

half jewel
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I was doing it at 250 and I think I only got hit hard once on the tank swing. I really just had sblock up

lusty grotto
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if youre not slamming SS like you should have been doing then yes it'll chunk for a bit more

pale roost
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any one got a nice prot build to use for delve boss? i dont normaly tank so no clue what to get

plush tendon
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I used the raid build

lucid meteor
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it really helps that its mostly physical damage and our physical mitigation is straight up broken. I saw a pally go in who was higher ilvl than me and said he could not survive the tank busters, even as prot.

plush tendon
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But took Battle Scarred Veteran for safety

half jewel
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I used the M+ build cuz I liked it more for the adds

plush tendon
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The adds were whatever

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I just ignored them

half jewel
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only thing I swapped was for double stun on stormbolt

plush tendon
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Yea, that looks good

ivory barn
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I ignored last set and didn't bother with lust

lucid meteor
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im half tempted to use the large amount of heroic crests the encounter gave me to fully max out this blade, would it be ok or will i miss not having haste on wep?

ivory barn
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You can get mythic crest from delves this week right?

plush tendon
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20 from tier 11 I think

lucid meteor
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only after you get around rank 2 on your delve research iirc

plush tendon
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If it helps clear more content

lucid meteor
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yeah confirmed, after rank 2

plush tendon
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Otherwise, Iโ€™d just hold all resource for as long as possible

half jewel
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Champ crests are safe to send, hero should be saved according to Larias

ivory barn
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O.o I need to go check my prog then

lucid meteor
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hmm thing is that this will probably be the only sword i would use until i get a mythic wep.

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myth crest im definitely saving those tho

plush tendon
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I already crafted sword

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I plan on upgrading that week 2 mythic

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Should I not get sword drop

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Though Iโ€™m hesitant to craft shield since first boss drops one

lusty grotto
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youll waste hero crests for no reason

ivory barn
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I gave my shield away last night, crafting it instead after my 2h

half jewel
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I probably will keep mine so other people have take it from raid, I got hero shield off first boss so I won't craft that either. Which is nice

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zero plate tier last night from LFR or raid, just cloth and mail shit

lusty grotto
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pro tip

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dont do LFR day 1

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do it later in the week

lucid meteor
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i decided to use my sparks to craft a 2h for arms since sword and shield i can loot for in raid since i'm one of my raid core main tanks. so it will be a couple weeks before i can craft another 1h or shield

plush tendon
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My paladins split there is only one other plate user

daring marlin
lusty grotto
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guilds queue up the first few days and will roll against you and just trade it away

plush tendon
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Ya boi ate well last night

daring marlin
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ohhhhh

plush tendon
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๐Ÿ˜‹

daring marlin
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That happened to you!?

lusty grotto
plush tendon
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Assuming same faction

lusty grotto
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right

half jewel
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Since we raid on tuesday I wanted more of a reason to get raid tier so I can farm charges next week when M+ comes out

plush tendon
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Which is what we are doing

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With all the excess toons we prepared

lusty grotto
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if you do LFR day 1 or early week, you're inting yourself out a potential tier slot

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just because of guilds hounding over the drops

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or what augusto mentioned

half jewel
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Assuming you see it at all when it drops lol

lusty grotto
half jewel
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Well yea just pointing out I didn't wait and it didn't matter

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Rng was not in my favor

lusty grotto
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that doesnt mean it wouldnt have been if you had waited

lucid meteor
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how many myth crest we get weekly with the 3 gilded chests and the map chest at 11?

half jewel
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i need like 20 more vet crets to have everything at 250 but I am capped

lucid meteor
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what should i use those 80 hero crest on then, i don't have any more hero gear xd.

lusty grotto
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nothing

undone beacon
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save em

lucid meteor
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wait, if i use those hero crests to upgrade the 2h, wouldn't that allow me to upgrade the 1h sword free?

lusty grotto
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for hero gear you can get easily next week by doing 7s

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if you dont do keys, then for gear you get the next time you do heroic raids

ivory barn
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Mythic crest out of m+ is 10?

lusty grotto
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tl;dr you get myth crests in 9s

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or higher, the higher your key, the more you get

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thats why people do 10s or 12s depending if you wanna deal with affixes or not

nova gorge
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As far as defensive/tank trinkets go for mythic progression raiders, how does this one stack up against others?

lusty grotto
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its bad

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good for 48g and 92 silvers

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but keep it for now for ilvl, i guess

nova gorge
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Is it bad because it doesn't give strength/haste? I accept the statement, I'm just trying to better understand what makes it bad.

lusty grotto
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low absorb, high cd, full absorb at that

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and yes the secondary could be better

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the absorb isnt low, so scratch that

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but the other points still stand

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full absorbs are never better than partial ones, except for the only reason (which has not been the case in a long time) where you need it for a tank buster

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to cover you with EHP

nova gorge
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Great, appreciate the thoughtful response!

solid sun
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Ultradon reminds me of Ultralisk

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StarCraft trinket should be better

lusty grotto
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twin dragons's gloom-spattered is one of the best ones i would say, mirroring what cam mentioned the other day

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manaheart is also good but its not in this season since its murder row

solid sun
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Most fun boss so far? For those who have been in there

lucid meteor
# lusty grotto

is there any reason to do t11 delve right now if i still don't have unlocked gilded chests or have a map?

wraith niche
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Back in dragonflight when i was learning to tank i remember reading "if a trinket is purely defensive its probably not something you want". I assume its the same today?

lusty grotto
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but really no reason

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power wise

lusty grotto
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its more nuanced than that

hardy snow
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cool prey reward, 50g will be enough to upgrade some gear I guess

lucid meteor
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im kinda confused, how the h did i got that hero sword. It was from my first rank 11 delve, but i definitely had no map. just key for chest. Lucky drop?

lusty grotto
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a defensive trinket first has to be good and effective, and it also depends on if you need it

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the answer to those questions tell you if you want to equip it or not

undone beacon
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Double terts? poggarino

ivory barn
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I haven't used my delve map yet, is higher delve better use after 8?

lusty grotto
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no

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use it on an 8

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same rewards

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as a higher delve

lusty grotto
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hero loot comes from maps only

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this is map loot

digital dust
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hello! one question. I want to see the tanking debuff stacks on the other tank. back in the day I just used /focus on the other tank to see the debuffs. But now I only see a stack if useless buffs. I know I can see the debuffs on the raidframs but i wanted to know if I can see it in the focus or maybe you guys have an addon that can track it somewhere for me ๐Ÿ™‚

digital dust
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nothing. mostly default

lusty grotto
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i go into the raid tonight so i cant confirm until then

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but dbm and bigwigs have private aura frames

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and are likely to show them in there

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im not 100% sure on it

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so just take it as a grain of salt for now

lucid meteor
shut summit
lusty grotto
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i got those legs from a map on an 11

wraith niche
# lusty grotto the answer to those questions tell you if you want to equip it or not

I figure its never a clear "always do this" answerm but the discussion about ultradon made me remember that line. Comes back to your "if you need it" comment. The idea was that you shouldnt need something like that in most situations. Kinda like new players using the extra heal talent on shield wall as a panic button. Sure there might be situations where its a good talent, but in general if youre relying on it then youre doing something wrong.

Since im very casual in my play i was just curious if its still a decent way of thinking to generally avoid purely defensive trinkets if given the chance, or if something had changed since i stopped playing in dragonflight

lusty grotto
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so youre either misremembering or something

lusty grotto
lucid meteor
wraith niche
ivory barn
wraith niche
shut summit
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just comes down to how comfortable you are on the spec vs the content you are doing, you dying will stand out 100% more than you doing 800 more dps or w.e marginal shit a trinket gives

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so isn't a definite answer but just up to you

wraith niche
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I like that answer

ivory barn
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Sense, your kill video was a banger btw, thank you. It helped me a lot

lusty grotto
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you just forgot

lucid meteor
lusty grotto
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it absolutely was a map delve

paper coral
lusty grotto
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do the prey thing, get the item to summon boss, see if you get a map

lucid meteor
ivory barn
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You can get a map delve at the end of a delve too, that's how I got mine

lusty grotto
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yeah it can be a random drop

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but its guaranteed from spawning the boss

ivory barn
lusty grotto
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if its true

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you did a map

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if its false

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you havent

pastel geyser
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There is a staff that can drop independently from map as hero track maybe this sword too?

lusty grotto
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where are you seeing this

pastel geyser
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I also got a 1 hander sword from map but it didnt have any cant rip effect

lusty grotto
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or is this hearsay?

pastel geyser
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Comment section in tomato

lusty grotto
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so it can be hearsay

pastel geyser
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Here

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No

lusty grotto
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its a comment section

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so it can be hearsay

pastel geyser
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This guy got 2 hero gears

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From a map delve

lusty grotto
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its hearsay dude

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it just means its someone saying it

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that does not mean its a fact

pastel geyser
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And some here just showed u he got a hero sword without map

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Why so negative

lusty grotto
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im not being negative

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im just saying that comments in videos are not necessarily true

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its the internet

solid sun
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Do you think the internet would lie to me

pastel geyser
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If a guy said he got 2 hero track items from a single delve and tomato confirmed it exists thats all i need to know

pastel geyser
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Im sure the above guyโ€™s sword is the same

lusty grotto
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i believe DragonJuno more

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because we validated it

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but thats about it

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up to you if you wanna believe stuff without comfirming it

pastel geyser
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Im sure theres multiple of these weps that prob randomly drop

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I mean why wouldnt i lol

lusty grotto
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because it hasnt been the case before

pastel geyser
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Its a new expac

lusty grotto
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and if its is in fact happening, then its new

pastel geyser
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New things happen

lusty grotto
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yes a new expansion with the same systems

ivory barn
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Do you get a free heroic piece from your first T8 maybe

pastel geyser
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I did many preys in tww

pastel geyser
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Most likely random

undone beacon
pastel geyser
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I got an invasion and got a map from first t8

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Idk if lucky or what

lucid meteor
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wrote it again, yeah, false

lusty grotto
rigid yew
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I love how not a single prot guide mentions why none of the talent loadouts include champion spear

pastel geyser
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Cuz its bad

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Or prob the other talents are just too good

lusty grotto
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im having a hard time not understanding why youre so against proving something true instead of taking comments as facts

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youtube comments at that

pastel geyser
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Because its from a youtuber who has been providing very good info for the past few weeks

lusty grotto
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uh huh

rotund bloom
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is this a decent trinket ? can"t find it on the guide :

raven sleet
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pls send prot talentbuild for m+ โค๏ธ

lusty grotto
pastel geyser
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Idk why we gotta be so skeptical

rotund bloom
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if anyone wants some, i have 3 ๐Ÿ˜„

lusty grotto
pastel geyser
lucid meteor
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i'm gonna do another rank 11 delve with key out of curiosity, maybe i'm lucky again xd.

pastel geyser
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Did u use key when u got it?

rotund bloom
lucid meteor
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yeah, bountiful delve.

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i didnt payed much attention at wich chest specifically dropped it

solid sun
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Idk who tomato is

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Am I behind the times

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I donโ€™t watch much YouTube content tbh

rigid hemlock
pastel geyser
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There we go

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U got source ti confirm or ratman wont believe

rigid hemlock
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im moleman

lusty grotto
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brother we just confirmed the 1h

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the fuck do i need some random to come and mention it

pastel geyser
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But he said about staff

lusty grotto
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

pastel geyser
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U dont believe about staff :/

lucid meteor
lusty grotto
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i feel like you keep missing the point

pastel geyser
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No i just find it weird how insanely skeptical u are

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Thats all

rigid hemlock
lusty grotto
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its the internet

rigid hemlock
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im moleman

lusty grotto
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you need to be skeptical

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do you believe everything in youtube comments???

undone beacon
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that is moleman

pastel geyser
ivory barn
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Are we fighting on the Internet where something drops from a game that is bug infested Whuh

lusty grotto
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and thats how critical thinking dies

cerulean tusk
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Rat is unhinged already?

lusty grotto
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by admitting you just follow random comments in youtube

lucid meteor
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looking at one of the weapons comments in wowhead, indeed, seem to be something you can randomly get starting rank 8

rigid hemlock
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ive confirmed with larias also its trve

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the weapons are garbage but its crest save

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they do like .13% overall with 2 set

pastel geyser
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I know how to differentiate between troll posts, and people who genuinely posted information

lusty grotto
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im sure you do

pastel geyser
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Had no issues so far

lusty grotto
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gotcha

pastel geyser
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Funky

cerulean tusk
undone beacon
solid sun
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Guys we donโ€™t need to argue about the value or confirming things to be true instead of just accepting YouTube comments

pastel geyser
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Funkymunky

rigid hemlock
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anyways if ur unsure about anything delves check spreadsheet in bio for enlightenment

coarse bay
solid sun
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Do it

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Not falling for your phishing scheme, moleman

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Iโ€™m not giving you my social security number

rigid hemlock
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caught

pale sequoia
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Why do you prefer to craft weapon/shield over cloak/bracer?

cerulean tusk
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Cause impact of em are higher

lusty grotto
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^

pale sequoia
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impact now, no?

lusty grotto
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sure

ivory barn
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Shield block stat is LETSGOOO

lusty grotto
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if you can get myth tracks early then dont bother

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first boss drops shield

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from voidspire

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saladbar drops weapon

cerulean tusk
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No guarantee you get it tho monkahmm

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I get twohanders in vault every time, I still craft em

lusty grotto
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it should be explained in the pins anyway

cerulean tusk
ivory barn
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I got the shield last night and gave it to another war because it was on normal peepostudy

cerulean tusk
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Smart

brisk fog
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Algum BR on pra ajudar com dicas pra War Prot ?

paper stone
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I would love to main prot warr but I realized while trying to kill Nullaeus with both prot warr and guardian druid that the guardian has much much better DPS even after nerf

Like with warr I got sustained 14k @ ilvl 235
And with guardian I got sustained 25k @ ilvl 240

I dont think 5ilvl makes all this difference, it is quite sad honestly

lusty grotto
pastel geyser
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How did u have 14k dps

cerulean tusk
lusty grotto
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cat, dont make fun of portuguese

undone beacon
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Guardian still is ahead of other tanks after nerf, but that does seem low

ivory barn
cerulean tusk
pastel geyser
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Am i the only one who never felt in danger on nulla

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Like the whole fight i never went below 70% hp

cerulean tusk
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Nah, it is a dangerous fight

paper stone
ivory barn
pastel geyser
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Even then

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Maybe i dipped 2 times below 50%

cerulean tusk
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If you do a mistake, you get punished

pastel geyser
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one time i nearly died cuz i let a cast go through but BSV saved me

cerulean tusk
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BSV value

pastel geyser
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I was told to keep all cds for the small blobby adds but they were such a pushover

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At 50%

undone beacon
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Only time i was scared was during last phase lol

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He started scaling pretty hard

pastel geyser
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i even killed ogre by mistake

lusty grotto
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pretty much

solid sun
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I never went below 70

Maybe twice I dipped below 50

Once I nearly died

pastel geyser
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With aoe

cerulean tusk
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Btw, EU is closed?

pastel geyser
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Yea

cerulean tusk
solid sun
ivory barn
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Only add I had issue was last guy and then I realized after reading archis post just ignore and burn

cerulean tusk
pastel geyser
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I stacked 3-4 ignore pains when he did the strike cast or w/e and it took like 20% of my hp

lusty grotto
pastel geyser
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I know a rickroll link

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XcQ

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Is all i had to see

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Slow and very repetitive fight with nulla

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Extremely ez too

solid sun
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Have you ever heard of a fishermanโ€™s tale

pastel geyser
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Id rate this easiest out of the 4 we had so far

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Kyveza was a damn nightmare compared to this lol

solid sun
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Like everytime they tell the story of this fish they caught it gets bigger

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You just did that but over the course of like 1 minute

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It was really funny

pastel geyser
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I would tell u more stories if i had more than 1 attempt on him but it was a first try so no variation

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Interrupt when interruptable and reflect the other cast and thats it

solid sun
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Iโ€™m sure Iโ€™ll fuck it up donโ€™t you worry

toxic pewter
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actually got hero drums trinket from delve.. not awful trinket

pastel geyser
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From what i heard, you dont even need to reflect cuz valeera just dispells you on every cast?

solid sun
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I was thinking about doing it as fury

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I should do it as arms and then post YouTube comments about how good arms is

undone beacon
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EU delve HoF closed so fast lmao

pastel geyser
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Prob cuz it was so easy

lusty grotto
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are you getting the same vibes?

solid sun
toxic pewter
pastel geyser
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Seems so but you should prob go in game to check because this is the internet after all

lusty grotto
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oh man look at that, trying to refute but posting something with concrete proof

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thanks for proving my point

pastel geyser
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The photo might be ai

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You never know dude

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If yall taking the piss i can too dw

lusty grotto
pastel geyser
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๐Ÿˆ

lusty grotto
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but youre not

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๐Ÿ™‚

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youre just being annoying

pastel geyser
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Hey you started it :p

solid sun
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Can we have s timeout to discuss โ€œtaking the pissโ€

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How did that even come about

lusty grotto
pastel geyser
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The zoo coming after me

solid sun
#

But what does it mean

pastel geyser
#

To make fun basically

#

Of

lusty grotto
#

dpsdmg vibes intensify

#

cannot let it go

#

must have the last word

solid sun
#

Oh trust me. Iโ€™m not making fun of you. I like crabs, too

#

But I can make light of the situation

pastel geyser
lusty grotto
#

thats nice

undone beacon
#

cat tax

pastel geyser
#

She got off and now i am free

cerulean tusk
paper stone
#

The ONLY problem in the whole fucking Null fight is the small fucking adds that stack the debuff that I am too stupid to stop

lusty grotto
#

again

#

burn them, use SR and stuns to reset stacks

paper stone
#

I have tried stopping it using stomp, disrupting, shockwave, and im just dumb or what but it never works

ivory barn
#

Shockwave+SB spread = GG

pastel geyser
#

Maybe my fight bugged but i never got above 1 stack?

lusty grotto
#

you have 3 stuns, 1 SR on a 18s cd, and a fear if you talent into that

pastel geyser
#

Like i leaped into them and send cds, then he put the poop under me, so i had to go out

#

They followed very slowly and killed em a few at a time

undone beacon
#

yeah i never went above one tick stack

paper stone
#

lol

#

I am constantly dying at 8-9 stacks

lusty grotto
#

its entirely possible to get more stacks

#

but if you do, you have the tools to reset them

undone beacon
#

Damn guess I'm built different peepo

#

But yeah we have a lot of CC

#

Just dont panic and throw it all at once

lusty grotto
#

they cast it, just pay attention to stacks and use your tools to reset

pastel geyser
#

You know that feeling when you pick up a water bottle expecting it to be full but it was actually nearly empty and your brain prepares for it?

lusty grotto
#

if youre under 5, youre good

pastel geyser
#

Thats how i felt with the mobs at 50%

lusty grotto
#

also valeera stuns randomly so she helps out

pastel geyser
#

maybe helps i used rank 2 pot, flask, food, wep oil and had 259 crafted wep? But overall ilvl i was 323

#

Yea she also stunned 1

#

Valeera is a goddamn maniac compared to brann, in t11 delve she was doing 130k dps

#

Triple what i was doing lol

#

Also randomly 1 shotting mobs at 1.5/3mil hp left

#

Like 5 at once

#

With killing spree? I havent read her stuff yet but brann is little baby compared to her

lusty grotto
#

i didnt use any of what you mentioned

#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

#

and my valeera was 15

#

valeera also executes like brann

#

and my weapon is

pastel geyser
#

Nah thats her dps when i was doing delves up to t11 for nulla

#

On nulla she was healer

pastel geyser
lusty grotto
pastel geyser
#

Yea but didnt brann execute like every 10 mobs

#

This crazy ass was spamming it

lusty grotto
#

idk my dude my level (now) 17 valeera barely breaks 60k

#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

pastel geyser
#

Might be tied to delve lvl

lusty grotto
#

anyway thats beside the point for the question

pastel geyser
#

From 8-11 her dps grew every tier

lusty grotto
#

on an 11

#

she did not break 60k

pastel geyser
#

Weird

#

I had a pull where she did 13k dps like she was bugged

lucid meteor
#

when mobs at 30% she execute, seems to have a relatively short cooldown

#

very nice agaisnt elites.

pastel geyser
#

Quite insane

lusty grotto
#

its literally the same execute as brann

ivory barn
#

My valeera on healer does like no dmg

lusty grotto
#

why would you use healer valeera for delves

#

you would on the boss but not on regular delves

ivory barn
#

Umm sadge

undone beacon
#

Heal healer for boss, dps otherwise

#

she cranks

lusty grotto
#

โ˜๏ธ

#

you dont need healing in delves lol

ivory barn
#

Can you switch her mid delve?

lusty grotto
#

yes

#

but still you dont need her to heal

ivory barn
#

I'll try that tonight, my companion has only ever been on healer

lusty grotto
#

as tank, any tank

undone beacon
#

Maybe as a dps healer is nice but, tanks dont need

lusty grotto
#

you always run dps companions

#

we did in TWW, and its no different now

#

obviously that changes for nemesis fights

ivory barn
#

I get it, I'm a trashcan

lusty grotto
#

well you shouldn't be

#

you did the nemesis

ivory barn
#

Ye, that was a fun boss

lusty grotto
#

so youre not a trashcan

sleek pike
#

Darkmoon Sigil: Hunt is bis ?

undone beacon
#

exclusive club

lusty grotto
#

whatever sims best, but i havent checked if raidbots swap target type for hunt

#

or if you need a snippet to deal with that

#

from what i can see rn, there's no toggle for target type

ivory barn
sleek pike
#

4000 end ?

undone beacon
#

Yep, HoF is closed for delve boss

sleek pike
#

when

ivory barn
#

This morning

undone beacon
#

Early this morning it looks like

ivory barn
#

I was ~2000

undone beacon
#

Leaderboards have me at #107, tho im prob closer to 150

ivory barn
#

When I checked it had 1960 left last night about 20m after I killed it

glacial grove
#

Devouring Banding or Darkmoon Sigil?

pastel geyser
pastel geyser
ivory barn
plush tendon
#

Iโ€™m prob in that 2000 ish range

#

I had raid ExcitedBlushette

undone beacon
#

They're not fully accurate yet as it has to sync with armory or whatever

remote ocean
#

what does it mean when it says an ability deals reduced damage beyond 8 targets.

#

is it like, stil lbetter than hitting just 8, or is it the same damage as youd get with 8 but split?

undone beacon
#

It means the 9th target will take less damage than the first 8

remote ocean
#

oh, but its still extra damage over just hitting 8?

undone beacon
#

Yes

remote ocean
#

coolt y

undone beacon
#

Unless it expressely says "damage split between targets", it just deals reduced damage to anything beyond the first 8

#

How it chooses which of the pack are the first 8 though is a little more... unclear

remote ocean
#

awesome. oh and i havent really been following, is there a clear winner between colossus and thane rn?

lusty grotto
#

they are close

#

thane is slightly more dps

remote ocean
#

oh. lame, but awesome. ty.

outer willow
#

Is it normal to not feel like Iโ€™m generating as much rage as last season? Iโ€™m guessing itโ€™s because itโ€™s the first season of the xpac

outer willow
#

Ok good.

undone beacon
#

You have less haste and stats overall, plus we lost our MFO tier set which gave a good amount of extra rage

#

All classes end up feeling slower at the start of an expansion, it ramps over time

outer willow
#

I feel like Iโ€™m having to pay a lot more attention to my utilization, where as last season I was just zugging

#

Gotcha

#

Thanks Pash

undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

also rage gen did get nerfed

#

no rage from avatar, amongst other things

ivory barn
#

Yeah, there are times where SS is not proccing ๐Ÿ˜ญ sadge

lusty grotto
#

yeah strategist was nerfed

ivory barn
#

Felt it hard at the end of the delve boss, had to rely on clap for about 2 full clap globals

lusty grotto
#

actually it didnt

#

25% is what it was at last season

vital vale
#

literally first try

#

if i didnt have a job and could just play this morning i would have gotte fabled EU

#

but i guess they just make a stupid easy boss to give a fomo reward for unemployed people

round pendant
#

Fomo gets people logging in

vital vale
#

i logged in

#

but i didnt get any fomo

#

cus i had to go to work in the morniing like a normal person

mighty valley
#

it's just an achievement, right

vital vale
#

so idk what u talking about

daring marlin
lucid meteor
solid sun
#

House or bank

lucid meteor
#

would have gotten HoF if it wasnt because i waited till morning thinking it would take me more tries so i went to sleep first.

outer willow
#

Unemployed is a heavy accusation lol. Some of us just have time management skills.

daring marlin
vital vale
#

this is a dumb achievement to reward first 4k and make a stupid easy 1st try boss just zone in and get it

solid sun
vital vale
#

it should be until the end of the first reset like raid

round pendant
#

Sounds like you have fomo

vital vale
toxic pewter
fossil slate
#

Hello, i just started playing WOW and I was wondering what should I do after weekly quests, this is my current gear, sorry if im on the wrong chat

daring marlin
#

apb how's first week going for you bro

toxic pewter
#

notgoodd dude

#

not good at all

daring marlin
#

I keep getting trinkets

outer willow
toxic pewter
#

i swear roughest first week so far ive ever had

toxic pewter
#

and i only pug mostly

fossil slate
#

I am hahah

daring marlin
#

I completed a nightmare prey in prot spec and got the stinky doodoo shield trinket

vital vale
#

just cus i have a job doesnt mean i shouldnt get a fair chance to even get hall of fame lol

toxic pewter
#

like i have pugged every normal raid first day going back many many years

daring marlin
toxic pewter
#

and this raid

#

something about this drago nboss

mighty valley
toxic pewter
#

its making people shortcirucit

daring marlin
#

dragon boss is fun

toxic pewter
#

yeah like I got it to 6%

#

but people literally doing 25k dps

#

and shit

daring marlin
#

I feel like destro is gonna be giga dam in this raid

toxic pewter
#

i cant find agood group

toxic pewter
hazy crest
#

Shit ignore me

fossil slate
toxic pewter
#

destro lock seems fun as hell

#

I made a shield today

daring marlin
toxic pewter
#

yah

daring marlin
#

I might do normal raid on my lock today idk

solid sun
#

My war hit 88 and 23% last night. How is my time management going

daring marlin
#

maybe clear out M0s and nightmares/delves

toxic pewter
#

yeah im about to just stop doing raid

round pendant
#

@undone beacon are you having fun?

ivory barn
#

I prioed getting the achievement over grabbing shit for raid and it paid off so ๐Ÿ’ช

outer willow
vital vale
#

wh yare people defending this lol, are you actually just trolling me xd

#

there is nothing prestigious about an achievement that you cant get because you had to sleep 1 night

#

and you have to take a day off work to get, or call in grandparents to take care of your kids, or cancel a doctors appointment

#

fomo is fine, but you should have a reasonable time to actually get it done, even if its a top % thing lmao

round pendant
#

I mean from the sounds of it, it was piss easy so it's not prestigious anyway?

vital vale
#

that argument works both ways

daring marlin
#

Especially Warriors, it seems.

vital vale
#

all the more reason not to gate it to a 12 hour period lmao

#

yall have lost your minds

round pendant
#

It just shouldn't be a thing on trivial content

#

But it shouldn't make you feel bad that you didn't get it

vital vale
#

thats not the point at all

outer willow
#

Itโ€™s just an insignificant achievement

vital vale
#

doesnt matter

stone tundra
#

Very subjective

vital vale
#

not the point

outer willow
#

I agree

vast epoch
#

Seen shadowpriests get it

stone tundra
#

Heals aswell

daring marlin
#

I dunno what the hardest part would even be for dps just from what I've seen way more tanks are getting it

vast epoch
stone tundra
#

I suppose valera does enough as tank

daring marlin
#

Funny enough the most annoying thong about it on my paladin is his tankbuster that warriors take with a giggle

stone tundra
#

Took a while on tank aswell

daring marlin
#

cuz sb so good

vast epoch
#

Yeah took me 11:57 with heal brann

ivory barn
#

It still took me 7 1/2 minutes

stone tundra
#

I did not actually time it sadly

vast epoch
stone tundra
#

But it went faster each try

outer willow
#

You know what would have been nice? 4000 per spec.

#

Boom

round pendant
#

Just be like me

#

Be immune to fomo

outer willow
#

How does one learn this power

round pendant
#

Because I'm not playing midnight okayge

outer willow
#

Ohโ€ฆ

round pendant
#

For real tho I don't remember the last time I felt fomo

#

The moment I do, I stop caring because it's videogames and I'm not actually losing out on anything important

daring marlin
#

Bro doesn't feel anything oof

lost jacinth
#

Have heard rumors that Nightmare prey rewards scale with ilvl. Can someone confirm/deny?

round pendant
#

I'M NOT DEPRESSED

round pendant
ebon geyser
sharp jewel
#

makes u wonder who came up with 4000 as a good number

#

mayb they underestimated how many still play the game

mighty valley
undone beacon
ivory barn
solid sun
#

Hey @shut summit do you wanna do keys together one day this season? I thought I might relieve you from tanking all the time

sour cloak
#

i dunno if this has been answered before but are we aiming to craft something this week? or we waiting for next weekly reset

stone tundra
#

You can craft without crest and recraft next week with myth

sour cloak
#

yeh but is there any item to consider?

stone tundra
#

Weapon>shield >bracers i would imagine

round pendant
#

Shield first buddy

vast epoch
#

Shield drops from first boss hc if you doing it this week anyway try the chance first

solid sun
#

Everyone my buddy

#

And by extension yams buddy

vast epoch
#

And yes actually weapon craft is suggested first in pins :p

young basin
#

I am sorry since im sure its asked a dozen times. but do we craft with or without sparks? rn

vast epoch
#

That Hunt embalishment + enchant definettly juicy early pump

round pendant
#

Ew why are we weapon first now

#

We're truly in the end times

undone beacon
#

shield off 2nd boss

lusty grotto
#

cause 1st boss drops shield

undone beacon
#

1st sorry

round pendant
#

Ok but if you don't get it?

undone beacon
#

you die

#

simple as

vast epoch
#

The chads already insta answered it

round pendant
#

And it's still gonna be your first myth craft no? Assuming you don't raid mythic

lusty grotto
#

4 sparks, sorry

#

so 2 crafts

#

or one 2h

round pendant
#

Oh neat

#

Was that always a thing I don't even remember

lusty grotto
#

no

round pendant
#

I'm a shield Stan

lusty grotto
#

you can do it, im a shield stan too

#

i dont agree with the pins (mwahi made him edit it)

mighty valley
#

can you really be a shield stan if you're retired

vast epoch
#

Think the idea is since until mythic raid we can have both anyway tht weapon is for just more pump for this week

lusty grotto
#

the biggest issue is that the weapon dropper is the 3rd boss

ivory barn
#

You could craft shield and weapon if you weren't maining fury or arms keksquad

vast epoch
#

Nothing can really nuke us this week right ?

daring marlin
#

Which tanks seem to keep doing

vast epoch
ivory barn
#

Double dragon boss keeps fucking my guild over

round pendant
#

crafting is such a whatever system

#

do we still gotta pay egregious fees to random players this expac to click a button?

#

well those of us too lazy to level professions on alts or find friends

vast epoch
#

You are not the one getting paid ????

round pendant
#

too lazy to do any of that shit, rather play the game

lofty warren
#

What ilvl does praying give?

vast epoch
#

Felt like playing the game for me when i skilled up profs

meager quail
vast epoch
#

Dont need it on 100 even as bs

round pendant
vast epoch
#

I mean wtf

meager quail
vast epoch
#

But yeah professions are so cheap and free to skill up its actually worth

round pendant
#

This channel can't help but be flirtatious when I'm around

#

classic

vast epoch
#

Whole xpac free tips

lofty warren
round pendant
#

Doesn't really work for me cause I'm a log on to do some m+ with the buds and log off instantly

#

kinda player

#

but yeah

vast epoch
#

That was flirty for you already?? I was just autistic

round pendant
#

my friend made a killing with it just afking in dorn

meager quail
lofty warren
#

What ilvl does praying give?

round pendant
#

you asked that already pepega

#

Do you mean Prey?

lofty warren
#

But no answer gotten

lusty grotto
#

no, he means praying

#

๐Ÿ™

round pendant
#

prayging

lusty grotto
#

you need exactly 1 ilvl

lofty warren
#

Praying for an answer

round pendant
#

about tree fiddy

#

I suppose

lofty warren
#

Sorry. Preying for an answer**

vast epoch
#

Just got 250 ilvl from this pray

lusty grotto
#

@lofty warren its the first two that give champ tracks

#

on nightmare

#

first two on hard drop veteran

#

first two on normal drop adventurer

#

you can do all 6

#

as long as you have nightmare mode unlocked

undone beacon
lofty warren
#

No i havent touched it but sounds like its worth touching

undone beacon
#

this is bullshit

lusty grotto
#

monkahmm touching eh

vast epoch
#

Thats definettly a plus

round pendant
#

I eventually did become a blitzball

#

I achieved my dreams

vast epoch
#

BLESSED

lofty warren
#

When you accept it and then go to a zone. How do you force the enemy to come out

undone beacon
#

it can ambush you in combat

lofty warren
#

Do I need to pray to make him come out of hiding?

daring marlin
#

oh lord baitbot 5000 found a new avenue

round pendant
#

You can't force people to come out, pepega

#

they have to feel safe

undone beacon
narrow prawn
#

how the heck are people getting enough myth tokens to craft myth stuff

lusty grotto
#

ALRIGHT Im stopping this bus

undone beacon
#

Nulleus

narrow prawn
#

Oh

#

well shit

lusty grotto
#

cant craft with 30 crests

#

its 80 per

daring marlin
daring marlin
#

I thought it was a one-time or once per week reward

undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

could be possible they killed the last bosses (if thats a thing in voidspire)

solid sun
#

Hey @round pendant Someone on my server is named Blitzball

round pendant
#

tell them yam thinks they're cute

solid sun
#

I think itโ€™s you

round pendant
#

Many people aspired to be blitzballs when they grew up

#

I'm not the only one

solid sun
#

Youโ€™re the only one for me

undone beacon
#

what the fuck

#

thats my wife

glad dragon
#

what is the best weapon to craft for our spe ?

ivory barn
#

damn I can only R3 ๐Ÿ™

lusty grotto
#

any

#

weapon type does not matter as long as it has strength

#

and is a 1h

glad dragon
#

and we choose haste and crit on it as well right ?

lusty grotto
#

whatever sims best

#

which is usually haste+crit

glad dragon
#

ok ty

dusky canopy
#

Mace bis

ionic fern
#

Mace as dwarf. Sword as human. Axe as orc.

lusty grotto
#

lol

ionic fern
#

Otherwise you trolling.

lusty grotto
#

classic called

glad dragon
#

the only weapon i see is giving a mix of strenght and stamina is that ok ?

ionic fern
lusty grotto
#

search Farstrider's

ivory barn
#

do I need to do something special to get these crafts to R5?

lusty grotto
#

not fart

lusty grotto
ebon geyser
lusty grotto
#

skill up, get better crafting equipment

#

use inspiration

pastel geyser
#

he has conc clicked, its only r3

lusty grotto
#

and yes, the spec matters

#

he has 67 skill

pastel geyser
#

using rank 2 mats would be the 1st thing xD

lusty grotto
#

with +8 only

#

his profession equipment sucks

#

skill dictates higher quality yield

#

and yes r2 mats as well

#

spec gives skill towards whatever weapon type

pastel geyser
#

yes indeed

lusty grotto
#

anything that affects skill really

pastel geyser
#

r2 alone gives +150 skill afaik

daring marlin
#

I have like 12% bonus movespeed base atm lol

#

zoom zoom โ™ฟ

lusty grotto
#

what are you? sonicholas?

ivory barn
#

so I just need to either craft me gear or go yoink it on the AH

lusty grotto
#

bear didnt catch it, shh

pastel geyser
#

this alone +conc and r2 mats should make r5 sword ez

ivory barn
pastel geyser
#

well u went 2h swords :o

ivory barn
#

raid.... ๐Ÿ˜ข

pastel geyser
#

but 62 kp doesnt seem too low, u prob can get a bunch no?

#

just try putting r2 mats and see

lusty grotto
#

it is too low

lofty warren
ivory barn
#

that might get me T4

lusty grotto
pastel geyser
#

shouldnt

lusty grotto
#

youre missing a lot of knowledge

pastel geyser
#

u have craftsim? u can check

lofty warren
#

For real tho, is there a trick to get the enemy to come out so these prys can be done faster?

ivory barn
#

this popped up?

pastel geyser
#

wowee

lusty grotto
#

click blacksmithing

pastel geyser
#

have u been doing any paptron orders? :D

ivory barn
pastel geyser
#

ur missing +10kpp book from voidstorm, and 54 kp from catchup

#

doesnt seem like u have been

lofty warren
#

I need to lookup some guide i dont even know what a trap is or how to do it.. I wish it was just a boss on a map without all this extra stuff

lusty grotto
#

the traps show up on the mini map

#

there's a world quest too

#

traps usually show up around there

lofty warren
#

Maps show up on the mini map? Do you mean the traps

lusty grotto
#

yea, sorry

ivory barn
#

I just need to put the rest on teh sword for now?

lusty grotto
#

what do you think

heavy forge
#

Hey guys, i was luck enough to get a Hero Track Weapon from delve and a Champ Track schield.. What do you guys Think, what would be the Right Choice to Craft now ? ๐Ÿ™‚

lusty grotto
#

nothing

#

you craft next week with myth crests

#

weapon specifically

#

do not upgrade your hero weapon

vast epoch
#

Okay important question to get a change from the usual ones

#

Nimchip's or Rhino's hat, which is more cool ?

lusty grotto
#

well im biased

vast epoch
#

I personally appreciate both hats but was curious what the opinion here is

coarse bay
#

Hmmm

#

I plead the 5th

#

Which for non freedomers means i wont answer

vast epoch
coarse bay
lofty warren
#

I was doing m0s and happened to do seat of the triumph. After I was inside saw world quest that gives 250 ilvl item but I had no idea that wq was even around and happened to stumble into it. How to see relevant world quests up for current season?

lusty grotto
#

use eyes

lucid meteor
#

delve chest with map. prot/arms bis stats with socket

#

i love delves

lusty grotto
#

all necks have sockets

#

settings are not a thing

#

in this expansion

#

all necks and rings have sockets

lucid meteor
#

bit stats tho.

coarse bay
lucid meteor
#

guess this does worth upgrading now

lusty grotto
#

for sure

coarse bay
#

Jealous of you

coarse bay
lusty grotto
#

def wouldnt upgrade a neck

coarse bay
#

Thereโ€™s pretty much nothing available thatll make u spend hero crests rn

lusty grotto
#

you never want to upgrade accessories first

#

they have no strength

lofty warren
#

Do you go into map and then right click out and then click into legion zone and then look for current season world quests? And then repeat for every zone ?

lucid meteor
lusty grotto
#

it shows up on your quest log my dude

lofty warren
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I'll have to check that. Since legion is just looked at world quest tracker addon

lusty grotto
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sure

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but once you zone into an m0

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you can just look athte quest log

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there's also a very obvious voice over that says "do this"

kind talon
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Does anyone have recommendations on the best delves to do to push tiers up?

lofty warren
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Well i was hoping to see all current season wq before I go into specific dungeons. Like I may not want to do seat dungeon unless that wq exists so then id never go into it bc I dont know the wq exists

daring marlin
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pulling big in 11s is kinda fun

undone beacon
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can i just say
the more i do with astalor the more i love him

undone beacon
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the quest to unlock nightmare prey felt very much like classic blood elf shit

daring marlin
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Even if he's definitely up to no good

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100%

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whatever he's up to, sign me up

meager quail
lusty grotto
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x3

kind talon
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At what delve level should you use your keys again? 8?

daring marlin
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Seems like the most plausible way to reintroduce him

kind talon
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wheew

undone beacon
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"All of Azeroth will come to fear the might and determination of the blood elves" yeah ok bud lets do it

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I'm a goblin but like yeah sure im hype

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Anguish goblin

meager quail
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But what if it's only a lead in to the return of Kael'thas ...

ivory barn
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lots of shit to catch up on if I want the 2H/Shield

lusty grotto
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look into what

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just spend them in there, the node literally says it gives you +skill for that weapon type

tribal wharf
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m0 wt go

meager quail
lusty grotto
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yes

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that goes without saying

lofty warren
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What ilvl does eod m+ gear drop and what type of crests per level?

tribal wharf
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246 1 //6

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champ

lusty grotto
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eod m+?

ivory barn
lusty grotto
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or m0?