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frank bobcat
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Finally logging in to play, hopefully I didnt get work diffed before getting a chance to grab this title

vivid orchid
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youve got time

wide fulcrum
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Load screen doesn't show fabled collected anymore.

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compared to the wowhead that shown how many were left 🙁

edgy patrol
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what Valeeria spec and talents did you use for her?

ebon geyser
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bruh... i cant get pass the damn 1 set s of adds.. im garbage

sharp gale
ebon geyser
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this is depressin...

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getting out of the channel

dusty surge
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Oddly enough

edgy patrol
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ya that is odd

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what was your dps

dusty surge
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43k

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Val did around 27k

edgy patrol
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and what ilv did you complete at

sharp gale
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300 ppl did it EU

vivid orchid
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~31k and val 18-20; took 11m 2s

fallow fern
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whats best to take from Community Engangment weekly? assuming Hero Crests?

mental scarab
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So I crafted a shield this weekend, and got 2 new sparks yesterday when I turned in one purple quest in silvermoon. But can’t use themmonkahmm

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Is this bugg

charred ivy
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Why didnt u use?

lusty grotto
ionic fern
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Do you get anything for defeating that delve dude?

sharp gale
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Uncapped crests

lusty grotto
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Yep

mental scarab
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Gonna try when I get home, but have sparks for two crafts? Or is it just a bug

ionic fern
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Hahahahahahaha,imagine having the time to play to cap crests.

sharp gale
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And a mount + title

ionic fern
novel hemlock
# charred ivy Why didnt u use?

I've read that they're not so strong as other talents so not good to invest into. But know there was some buffing now and few days wasn't in dungeons to try it

vivid orchid
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30 uncapped myth 60 uncapped hero crests apparently

lusty grotto
lusty grotto
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and what I used but with her as healer like you

novel hemlock
# ionic fern From where?

Not sure actually but even some guys on youtube said so in the begining, also many talent builds like archon for example didn't reccomend those. Things change of course, we have first raid today with my guild so of course i want best choice to have

lusty grotto
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Archon is archon

sharp gale
ebon geyser
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fml , i cant do this shit

ionic fern
lusty grotto
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Just keep in mind that if you follow archon you may not have specific explanations as to why people are using those and more often than not, most people just blindly follow r1 streamers even when those talent picks don't apply to them

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Archon is an aggregator, what's in there is just what people "feel" is best, when most of the time it ain't

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Also it's likely archon was pulling from beta logs

novel hemlock
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Yeah, it's similar with those tier lists I think, but thanks anw, i'll fix wehn i'm in game

lusty grotto
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And people in beta were just fucking around with talents

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So not really the best source

jagged pier
ebon geyser
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this bs low key wanna make me quit this game

jagged pier
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why? its not that bad

ebon geyser
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bro what you mean is not that bad, you guys are geared know your class and i am not like you guys, i struggle to do everything

jagged pier
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geared yes

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?? are skill checks, that can be beaten with gear later

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cant do it now

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just do it later with more gear

sharp gale
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i think valeera lvl doesn't matter, she barely did more than what ppl said while mine is 45, but in my regular delves she is solo clearing

jagged pier
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mine is 16

ebon geyser
sharp gale
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single target

lament osprey
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I have 646 haste

charred ivy
jagged pier
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the adds dont really matter they immunity runs out anyway

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and your cleave will just kill them

ebon geyser
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i gave up

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time is not in my side hasn't been for 3 weeks so it was expected

errant wagon
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Got up through heroic salad bar today with raid. Prot warrior feeling awesome post buffs

jagged pier
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it feels the same

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as they didnt change how the spec played at all

blazing ivy
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Did anyone do it as Fury DPS? I don't feel like playing tank

jagged pier
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ask in fury channel

errant wagon
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The Numbers feel great so I disagree haha

jagged pier
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numbers != how something feels

blazing ivy
torn gulch
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?? nullaeus gets very sketchy in the last 20% or so

mental scarab
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@lusty grotto last night I was gonna try to craft wrists as my second one, but it sad in the meny that I missed sparks sadge but I had them in my ”bags” maybe because I’m on eu

errant wagon
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Agree to disagree I guess. Big numbers make me feel better

sharp gale
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you just need to take valeera heal orbs more actively

tiny mason
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24k dps is enough to kill the Nullaus boss?

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it takes ages, maybe someone got good talent or trick

sharp gale
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and there is not the tankbuster as dps, but melee swings are not better

sharp gale
frank bobcat
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i did it!!! Sus prot gang rise!!

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first attempt he hit 0.6% health, got him on the second try

burnt lantern
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I just did too, also in two tries! Hell yeah prot gang

frank bobcat
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yeaaah!!!

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by the time it hit 1:30 the boss had less than 800 slots left, dont know where i placed

torn gulch
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in europe we are at 669/4000

oak ivy
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lads i got to have my hero ish moment in raid tonight

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Hit the enrage on heroic vorasius and managed to save us a coupls seconds bu stepping out of the raid and having BSV + wall

sharp gale
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gg guys

frank bobcat
pastel summit
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You aren't in a rush until the last phase.

ebon geyser
pastel summit
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Can't stress yourself out over it too much.

civic holly
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can anyone point me to the thane colo comparisons please?

ebon geyser
pastel summit
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Gear doesn't hurt but it also doesn't help all that much.

ebon geyser
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Bs work and rl I havent unwind and sit and play in 3 weeks is just getting to me

pastel summit
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It's mostly just not spacing out for 10-15 minutes.

ionic fern
ebon geyser
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I honestly dont even know why I tried.. I know i was not good to get that.

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Just frustrated

civic holly
ionic fern
sharp gale
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one has demolish one has thunderblast

civic holly
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thanks

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so helpful

torn gulch
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i mean what kind of comparison are you looking for in the first place

civic holly
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idk these discords used to be littered with information

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uninformed breakdown, informed breakdown

jagged pier
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the toy is pretty cool

chrome falcon
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3 shot it because bad talents and valeera on dps

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HR and healer valeera = free

jagged pier
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BearSMH dps vel or your weak

carmine solstice
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IMO
Should be per class and like first 250

jagged pier
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its hof so probably gunna be more than 4000 ppl anyway

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it will close on reset after its full

carmine solstice
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I think it closes on 4000

jagged pier
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on NA

carmine solstice
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Different then HOf really

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Yea , it mentions region so

chrome falcon
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but also i woke up at 6am for this shit and it was already 500/4000 so i just wanted to guarantee the win

jagged pier
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again its HoF

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so its likely to close the reset after 4000 is achieved

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like more guilds get the acheievement than are in HoF

chrome falcon
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not risking my internet points on a "likely"

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especially after i killed the world boss at 11pm on a tuesday in EU

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nothing is likely anymore

torn gulch
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i expect europe hof to be full in 10h at most

vivid orchid
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so 5 hours after wowhead posts hof was half, its done

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lets see if theres a grace period now..

torn gulch
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europe is at 931/4000 in almost 4h on a wednesday morning

jagged pier
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im getting pushed out of the top 100 because ppls chars are being updated

rotund parcel
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Missed title by about a minute :( 237 prot :D with bin tier valeera

vivid orchid
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well that confirms it

rotund parcel
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Oceanic

fleet flicker
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for the delve do you guys go dps or heal

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for valeera

rotund parcel
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I did it first pull as dps then switched to heal

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dude trucks

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dps i felt was really a non issue as long as i could kill the bugs in time at 50% before i ran out of ways to clear debuff

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after that its just a slow slog

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probably have title if i did more damage though, so maybe damage issue for me lol

jagged pier
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thats really unfair

slender bison
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Is this Eu or Na?

jagged pier
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just who can log on first

rotund parcel
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I'm OCE

chrome falcon
slender bison
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Might have a chance Eu. wiped at 20% due to bad CD management

chrome falcon
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EU already 25% full

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and it's not even 8am UK

rotund parcel
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Yeah, spent all day at work, came home and did it only to miss out by a min, feels sad :(

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maybe if achievement was first 24 hours or something

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i dunno

slender bison
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Im still trying him with Valeria DPS. She's no push over

chrome falcon
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my healer valeera did 15k

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she's like level 18

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i think healer is just way better but healer won't kick so you could fuck up that and wipe

jagged pier
slender bison
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Jakey she healer?

jagged pier
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for everyone else healer for sure

jagged pier
tall jetty
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which curios did you guys give valeera for the nemesis fight?

chrome falcon
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guardian druid in my guild says ogre phase is hard because you need 2-3 ironfur 24/7 so can't spend rage on dps

jagged pier
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which ever she had

chrome falcon
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i had the time bubble and the extra crit chance

slender bison
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Ogre phase is bad since you can accidentally spell reflect his bolt instead of boss DoT

jagged pier
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i actually agree u should use vel healer btw

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the strike didnt kill me at the end for some reason

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but i was on like 20% hp

rotund parcel
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Voidlust and uh, holy hand grenade i think

jagged pier
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i guess i parried or dodged it

rotund parcel
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i think i should not have used grenade though

chrome falcon
rotund parcel
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the strike i found the most annoying thing tbh, sometimes block and ip soaked everything and it hit for 40k

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sometimes hit for 300k

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with mitigation

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feels super awkward

slender bison
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Yeah, this tank buster is weird

chrome falcon
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oh imploding is just physical ok

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the boss definitely ramps damage after he spawns the ogre

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but he has no buff for it

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giga private aura

rotund parcel
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yeah i think he looked way bigger too

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or ive got a trauma response

chrome falcon
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yeah he's like 3x bigger

raven kernel
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1st time i got to ogre i ignored it and wiped

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2nd time i killed ogre and cleared boss

slender bison
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Disrupting shout doesnt help too much ogre fight besides to get him out of the void pool

chrome falcon
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yeah i only wiped to ogre

torn gulch
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i am getting a little bit tilted at 2 sub 5%

jagged pier
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i just lusted orge

chrome falcon
fleet flicker
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10% and the cast went off

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forgor xd

jagged pier
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then released on that try u can sr the bolt and kill him easily

raven kernel
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i haven't played prot in several years

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and i had no lust drums too

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just did it natty

chrome falcon
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yeah i brought 0 consumes

jagged pier
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i just had old drums they for somereason work

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still

chrome falcon
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meanwhile guardian druid can't kill ogre with incarn+drums 😭 nice balanced challenge blizz

raven kernel
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i also didnt have disrupting shout on my bars

chrome falcon
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beast mode

rotund parcel
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Oh i should have taken drums lol

ionic fern
jagged pier
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can i get a comparison of which is more thermatically warrior and why its slayer?

chrome falcon
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no

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MT is mount thematically warrior

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blizz has decided warrior theme is press thunder clap

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nothing else

jagged pier
chrome falcon
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you will press thunderclap every 4 seconds until the heat death of the universe

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that's all we're allowed to do

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i swear that one BFA patch has ruined prot warrior forever

jagged pier
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yep

chrome falcon
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it's so fucking sad

ionic fern
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I enjoy TC spam.

chrome falcon
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yo can we get a new guide writer i want a refund on this one

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get me a guide writer who wants focused rage back

burnt lantern
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TC is the best warrior ability

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It just feels so nice, every time, all the time

ionic fern
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Jep. Though I will say that some gameplay changes are needed. The rotation of TC-SS is getting old.

torn gulch
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wiping late on him feels so bad because the fight is so long

chrome falcon
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i'm fine with pressing TC but i'm not fine with the class feeling gigashit outside of avatar

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and revenge being a fake button

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and execute being a fake button

raven kernel
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avatar uptime pretty high though

rotund parcel
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When did avatar lose the snare clear?

jagged pier
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this expansion

rotund parcel
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feels bad man

chrome falcon
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yeah like a few weeks ago

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we still have a snare clear

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Fearless

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if you really need it

jagged pier
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nah that doesnt work on anything

rotund parcel
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zerker rage clears snare

jagged pier
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like i tried it on like everything in m0s

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it just didnt clear anything

chrome falcon
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classic

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freedom moment

rotund parcel
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I run with a paladin most dungeons so

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i just scream at him to freedom me

paper stone
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Anybody on Nullaeus ? What do you guys think

jagged pier
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its fine

vivid orchid
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totally fine

chrome falcon
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dogshit

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but easy for us

jagged pier
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i mean its easy for everyone

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its a mechanics check

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which is was ?? bosses are

chrome falcon
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yeah but it's EASY easy for us

paper stone
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Doable with ilvl just 237 or so ?

chrome falcon
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yes

jagged pier
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ye

ionic fern
paper stone
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I tried it on guardian but I’m getting one shot

rotund parcel
jagged pier
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'mechanics check'

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if your getting oneshot your doing somthing wrong

chrome falcon
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like actually criminal

jagged pier
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doesntm matter the class

jagged pier
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i fucking hate the apex talents

ionic fern
drowsy comet
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love getting my innocent ass compeltely PENETRATED by 4 pvp driven bleep, just let me get my world quests done smh sadge

jagged pier
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yet they are better than anything else

chrome falcon
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they need to rework revenge or something

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give us a choice node with regular revenge or legion revenge

jagged pier
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WoTLK revenge

chrome falcon
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amen

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like if they hate execute so much they can remove it

fleet flicker
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why does the m+ build not take indomitable

chrome falcon
ionic fern
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They need to rework the class from ground up. We have too much dependancies and various interactions tied to SS/TC.

drowsy comet
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arms got buffed tho

fleet flicker
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arms got a bandage after being in a car crash

jagged pier
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they still do less than guardian druid

chrome falcon
jagged pier
ionic fern
jagged pier
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i use bloodsurge

drowsy comet
burnt lantern
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Speaking of Warrior design, them not making Demolish an Empowered ability was such a silly missed opportunity imo

chrome falcon
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empowered abilities on tanks are illegal i think

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idk why bdk got one

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i wanna agree though demolish is cool as fuck

ionic fern
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It is. But the rest of Colossus is a wreck, especially from m+ perspective.

chrome falcon
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well it would be cool if the CDR actually mattered

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but you just have to tie it to demo shout anyway

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and yeah colossus just feels clunky in m+ for grouping big packs

drowsy comet
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sadga i just wanna level my last level man leave me alone

jagged pier
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Let lil gup lvl BearTanties

paper coral
jagged pier
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it still does dumb damage

torn gulch
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240 ilvl/level 13 valeera healer
had multiple under 5% wipes took me about 2h and 10-ish wipes

daring marlin
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this is once a week?

drowsy comet
torn gulch
drowsy comet
daring marlin
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ok cool

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I should wait to do it in a bountiful delve too or...?

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Delves are still new to me 🙂

drowsy comet
chrome falcon
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bountiful is irrelevant

jagged pier
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well not this week u get gear guarenteed from it

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but just kill ?? boss give u a map

fleet flicker
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took 12 minutes but got it

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with a 201 shield and wep xd

paper coral
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Im looking atr the leaderboard and I see a lot of warriors on the board. hard to know what spec they played, but thats interesting.

jagged pier
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I mean that board doesnt update fast enough so its hard to tell

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But yes being able to sr essence makesnit kind of free

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Not that is isnt free for other specs

limber prism
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What talents you running for the ?? delve

jagged pier
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Depends if you are healer vel or dps vel

limber prism
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What would you recommend to run her as?

jagged pier
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Dont matter really but dps is definatly probably harder

torn gulch
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wait is there an official board?

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where you can see chars?

errant wagon
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I did healer and just ran the raid wow head build.

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Did the job

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10 minute kill just gotta defensive the stacking tank buster at end

craggy harness
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that Dstance talent that reduces the dmg just made the physical tickle without doing anything else extra lol

torn gulch
jagged pier
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No im not at a computer

torn gulch
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is at the same place as the raid hall of fame?

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i can't find it

slender bison
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EU still has free slots. Prot warr + healer is really easy mode. Just dont die to Ogre phase

torn gulch
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it was at 1200 about half an hour ago so there are a lot of slots

pale sequoia
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Hey!

What talents did you run?

lofty warren
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america realm still has slots too right?

pulsar jay
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yup just oneshot it

lofty warren
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how long did it take? at 239 ilvl its like 7:30 just to get to 50%

torn gulch
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about 15 minutes

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15-16 minutes

light sparrow
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colossus or thane ?

lofty warren
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can you 2x check that it is full america realm?

torn gulch
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someone above you missed it on na

humble musk
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my delve gave me this. My original plan was to make wep/shield 259 but with this.. is it prob worth to go shield + crafted boots? (for now)

torn gulch
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thank you very much

lofty warren
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did he kill it on normal or ??

torn gulch
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it shows in the image ??

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let me solo him is the ?? achievement

lofty warren
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ohh so now there is no point to do him now. can come beack with myth gear and wreck him

torn gulch
torn gulch
lofty warren
paper coral
paper coral
slender bison
lofty warren
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ohh rip/ well I guess i can do it before reset with more gear

light sparrow
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nice

paper coral
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I coulda done it too if I didnt have alt-itis and cant pick a class lmao.

fleet flicker
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with 201 shield + wep

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so sounds about right

pale sequoia
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Any idea how many Eu slot scurrently?

torn gulch
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you can see it when you go into the delve

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it was at 1200 an hour ago

lofty warren
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how to convert key shards into keys

torn gulch
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they do automatically when you go in delves

cerulean tusk
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All i know is that I wont get a spot, as there is no way there aint 4k ppl have filled it on EU by the time I am done with my work keks

quasi notch
slender bison
quasi notch
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I just did it with 230 you cant imagine my pain

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I thought i dont have time to do world tour

slender bison
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I do, its a slog with her as healer

quasi notch
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had to pray rng

cerulean tusk
quasi notch
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Bigwigs bugging out cant look up the pull count but i wouldn't be suprised if its over 100

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Idk how difficult it is as dps

pastel geyser
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Yo anyone who did nullaeus is valeera lvl 45 needed?

quasi notch
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noup

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my valeera lvl was 16

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😄

pastel geyser
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Cool

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Ot looks like a fun fight so i wanna do it xD but barely touched delves

sweet egret
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I would like to ask a little bit about this rotation thing on wowhead if anyone here is knowledgable enough to enlighten me. Is Execute supposed to be lower prio than revenge and ignore pain as a spender? (I guess not since that would make it never be used?) Also, the suggested talent build includes Wrecking Throw which to my eyes looks like it does a lot of damage per cast so could maybe be used for damage if you dont need the utility but it is not mentioned at all in the rotation, on any of the 4 tabs available. There also doesn't appear to be any mention of our Apex Thunder Clap > Shield Slam rotation, is it true that this should just be ignored?

pastel geyser
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M+ talent build works? Or is there smth more specialized

cerulean tusk
pastel geyser
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Filled what?

cerulean tusk
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Just go full tanky tank

pastel geyser
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Yea im playing tank this season

cerulean tusk
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The build

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Ya dumb dumb

pastel geyser
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Oh right

sharp gale
pastel geyser
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Cool

pastel geyser
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Other than title

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I just want the cool mount xD

sharp gale
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Like she does 100k st in delves and 10k against nullanus

pastel geyser
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100k? Goddamn

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Isnt it grindy to get her to 45?

sharp gale
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Yes she does 3x my dmg (I do delves as prot)

sharp gale
pastel geyser
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Dont? XD

cerulean tusk
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Yes, throw can be used to do dam

pastel geyser
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Oh is exe really that bad now?

cerulean tusk
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It is grim

pastel geyser
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Good to know i was kinda spamming it

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As thane tho

pale sequoia
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damn, i die below 10% just of dmg

cerulean tusk
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Saved

sharp gale
sweet egret
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so revenge > execute on single target as thane? (if you are above 20 rage when casting)

paper stone
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So what does spell reflection work at Nullaeus ? if at all ?

cerulean tusk
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Sounds about right, havent minmaxed Thane personally

I play Col

nocturne ibex
sharp gale
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And if you play valeera healer, it doesn’t matter since she will insta dispell you

pastel geyser
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Anyone nice enough to dm me a talent page for null bro? deadge

green frost
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3% and I fatfinger my interrupt. Oh well, he dies tonight

sharp gale
cerulean tusk
green frost
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Fuck. Work is getting in the way 😂

pale sequoia
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nah i die be low 5% , is his dmg increase scaling then?

green frost
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He enrages, yes

sweet egret
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is colossus still more dmg than thane? I've been a bit out of the loop

cerulean tusk
slender bison
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Any other sources of Myth crests this week besides delve boss?

paper stone
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ANy good build for this shit, because the small adds are killing me, my lvl16 valeera cant heal me fast enough xD

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but over all it is so much easiet with prot warr than with my guardian druid

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easier

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MUCH easier

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at least for me

cerulean tusk
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Just stun the adds at 5 stacks, then you should be fine

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Should allow you to reset stacks before it becomes dangerous

paper stone
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I just fucking cant kill those small adds fast enough

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I did reset them but then they fuck me up again 🙁

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also I dont see anywhere in game what is the current status of kills on EU :<

cerulean tusk
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Just play it better, and ya got this. Maybe save ava+demo for em to speed things up
Spam clap and revenge

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Last time I saw it was over 2k, like 30 min ago

paper stone
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I saved EVERYTHING for them, but also I am just ilvl 236

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maybe I have wrong talents

cerulean tusk
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Ppl doing it with 230 gear, just play better

Ya got this

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Use drums and pot, to speed things up

chrome falcon
chrome falcon
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just save demo and avatar the small adds should evaporate they weren't a problem at all for me at 240

pastel geyser
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Light’s potential pot?

paper stone
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What talents are optimal ?

chrome falcon
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idk man post what you're using

cerulean tusk
manic glade
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So when does he actually enrage? Because he's been giving these hits multiple times at 15-20% already

Or are the rng gods not on my side today

paper stone
paper stone
manic glade
icy yarrow
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very good very nice fight

chrome falcon
pastel geyser
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what to drop for indom?

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though as nails maybe? or is that too good

chrome falcon
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i dropped it

lusty grotto
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enduring alacrity

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play TaN

chrome falcon
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yeah

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idk i dropped enduring and tan for indom and bsv

lusty grotto
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just swap enduring for indom

chrome falcon
#

but i don't think i procced bsv the whole fight so

#

yeah

lusty grotto
#

and bloodborne

paper stone
pastel geyser
#

for bloodborne what tho

lusty grotto
#

bloodborne no

#

and bloodsurge no

pastel geyser
#

so.. like this?

lusty grotto
#

ravager yes

pastel geyser
#

clickable one?

lusty grotto
#

yeah thats the build sense went

jagged pier
#

Whirling blade

lusty grotto
#

he used the non automatic for the burst

jagged pier
lusty grotto
#

but it really doesnt matter, it depends on your dps for adds

pastel geyser
#

oh fk me i gotta do delves to tier10.. anyone know fastest delve rn xd

jagged pier
#

Yer but he also used dps vel

#

I recommend most ppl us healer vel

paper stone
jagged pier
#

So indom not needed and u can go more dps

paper stone
pastel geyser
#

if u do a bountiful delve without the key to unlock coffer it doesnt consume the bountiful right?

lusty grotto
meager quail
lusty grotto
#

thats the build except he went Storm Shield

paper stone
jagged pier
torn gulch
lusty grotto
paper stone
torn gulch
#

and it says xxxx/4000

paper stone
#

2600/4000 still a chance

torn gulch
#

but it fills fast u give it about 3-4 hours

lusty grotto
#

2600 on EU?

#

or NA?

torn gulch
#

yes

#

on eu

lusty grotto
#

anyway good morning from NA

torn gulch
#

na is full

lusty grotto
#

ah

#

my lil brother got it as monk last night i was watching him do it

#

but when he did there were 1,200 on NA side

hardy snow
#

im having trobules with 2nd pack of adds, but 1st and 3d are fine lol

lusty grotto
#

reset your stacks with any stun

#

or SR

#

i.e. use SR when the stack is about to fade (or stun the one or two casting it)

hardy snow
#

oh thanks okayge
was using SR for boss's debuff

lusty grotto
#

dont use SR when the boss is about to re-activate though and if youre using dps valeera

#

if youre using heal valeera, you could be fine

#

also good news i fixed my mouse issue @vital sinew turns out it wasnt the game. It was my dualshock usb cable still plugged in - the controller wasnt which is weird but it works

jagged pier
#

U can live through 1 debuff

#

Its fine

#

Survive adds over reflecting first cast back

paper stone
#

I cant fucking stun the Little Shits long enough to lose the fucking stacks. No matter how I fucking pproach this

lusty grotto
#

not long enough

paper stone
#

obviously

lusty grotto
#

you stun before it fades

jagged pier
#

But u have shockwzvr storm bolt aoe and intim shout

lusty grotto
#

stunning them long does nothing

jagged pier
#

Can just chain

paper stone
#

They refresh it by almost every hit lol

lusty grotto
#

no they dont

#

they cast it

jagged pier
#

It a cast

lusty grotto
#

its not a melee thing

paper stone
#

hmmmm

lusty grotto
#

same as the bleed in the first adds

paper stone
#

Thanks that puts it to different perspective thanks

proper crest
#

They don't cast all at the same time

paper stone
#

How is the 25% mark ? Harder than the little shits ?

proper crest
#

Nah it's just a caster

#

I cleaved it

paper stone
#

ah so ignore 😄

proper crest
#

Ye, it deals damage but not that bursty, you just need to be careful with position

lusty grotto
#

does a curse slow which you can dispel by berserker rage with fearless

#

but thats about it

proper crest
#

btw when the little shits spawn, you can blast them inside the aoe on the floor, it's no damage at all, blast them

proper crest
lusty grotto
#

just blast all the adds lmao

#

the last add you can either ignore or blast too, but its more important to dps the boss because he gets a damage amp and grows

proper crest
#

I used lust on exec phase tho, dunno if it's the go to, but worked for me

lusty grotto
#

i didnt lust

#

i should have but completely forgot

proper crest
#

I did like a 3% wipe earlier, that's why I used lust next pull ahahah

jagged pier
#

U can sr the bolts i think they do damage back tbh

lusty grotto
#

yeah

jagged pier
#

Also old drums still work

#

And they cheap

proper crest
jagged pier
#

Dont ask me y they still work

#

They shouldnt

hardy snow
#

btw. are there any rankings of who done that? I remember yesterday someone was posting Sense was #1 (of course he is 😄 )

lusty grotto
#

dataforazeroth has a ranking thing

#

but its not updated asap

sweet egret
jagged pier
#

U dont think about it

jagged pier
#

If ss is up u press it

paper stone
#

anything to improve here lol

jagged pier
#

Bubble

sweet egret
lusty grotto
sweet egret
#

thank you

lusty grotto
#

but mantle can be okay i guess

pastel geyser
#

does anyone know why my meter looks like this in combat?

lusty grotto
#

if you need the extra mit

#

your meter cannot show shit in combat anymore

pastel geyser
#

really lol

lusty grotto
#

part of the addon changes

pastel geyser
#

i swear it did earlier

lusty grotto
#

it will show stuff once youre out of it

#

why are you even looking at that and not whats happening on screen anyway

pastel geyser
#

wanted to see which spells do more dmg but ig i can after too

lusty grotto
#

uhh

#

is this your first time playing prot or something

#

the prio is basically that

#

on ST, SS will be #1

#

on AOE, TB will be #1

#

you still TB > SS >TC > Revenge/exe as thane in ST

pastel geyser
#

a ye ik but i mainly do it for other alts i play too esp my majestic skinners

#

also im doing up to t10 delves and mf invaded me in t8 already lol

paper stone
#

it is clear to me now that prot warr is a better tank than guardian because I struggled with guardian to even get to 50% but with warr its like ez mode

lusty grotto
#

or SS > Rev (depending on rage, this moves down after TC) > TC as colossus

pastel geyser
#

map is still capped at t8 on gear drop right?

lusty grotto
#

no

#

you get hero loot from it this week, strangely enough

#

it was capped in TWW

pastel geyser
#

i mean

#

u always got hero im pretty sure

lusty grotto
#

yes

#

but not this week

pastel geyser
#

should i use it in t8 delve i mean

#

or keep for higher

#

ah ok

lusty grotto
#

t8 is fine

pastel geyser
#

im gonna do up to 10 for nulaeus

#

so

pastel geyser
lusty grotto
#

you can

#

just out of combat

#

floating combat text will still show damage, so thats still an option as a quick glance

#

just no WA to only list reflected damage

kind urchin
#

Single ? New delve boss took a whopping 1 pull. I haven't done a 10 delve yet but I hope the ?? Is a lot harder than that.

paper stone
#

lol

#

it is,

#

it was same for me

#

first pull kill but at ?? its crazy

#

I am undergeared as well as my companion is low lvl

hardy snow
#

erga thanks for advices guys

jagged pier
fierce kraken
#

Am I just to slow/bad with like average 23k dps? He just enrages me in p3 after the third add and I cant keep up and die

glad magnet
#

Fell like I’ve seen 4000 fabled warriors so far

lusty grotto
jagged pier
lusty grotto
#

i did it without lust, but its worth a try using drums for that last part

glad magnet
#

That’s what I mean. I’m surprised fabled still open.

lusty grotto
#

for EU

#

NA is closed

#

according to someone

drowsy comet
#

I think Liquid found a way around the restriction to show kicks from party members, kinda big

lusty grotto
#

those arent kicks

jagged pier
#

those are external cd

lusty grotto
#

those are raid cds

tribal wharf
#

whats the deal with the 1 boss raid, how do i kill it lol

lusty grotto
#

take its hp to 0

tribal wharf
#

tried it on LFR and we wiped 2 times and then i just leave the group

#

something about a taunt swap maybe with boss stacks, but i asked him if there was one, the other tank

drowsy comet
#

Ohh

tribal wharf
#

and something about go in a portal

drowsy comet
#

hm i see

tribal wharf
#

and something about 1/2 raid in portal and 1/2 out and kill the adds before they pop ou to real world or he eats them

#

and away from boss tank the adds

#

he consome them or somethin

#

but he hurts

lusty grotto
#

there are a lot of raid guides yogi

#

just read those

tribal wharf
#

totally annihilated my raid, not even funny lol

#

i can do that, and i will

#

i just want to ask here first, to try to talk to a real human being

#

that can answer questions when i dont understand wall of text

lusty grotto
#

well thats too bad, we're not human beings

#

im a rat

tribal wharf
#

but like, you are telling me to go look it up and also not try to give short tldr answer about ip

lusty grotto
#

rhino is a rhino, cat is a cat

lusty grotto
#

throughout the years

#

use IP at 70+ rage only, thats it

#

thats the tldr answer

#

if i had to count ive at least mentioned that 500 times

#

for over a decade

#

and so have people in here

vast epoch
#

Legit just watch a yt guide 2 min for dreamrift

lusty grotto
#

dw

vast epoch
#

Best explanation than quick walls of texts here

lusty grotto
#

hes just yogi'ing

tribal wharf
#

im not coming around looking for fights man lol

lusty grotto
#

nobody is fighting

vast epoch
#

Oke my bad i am just tourist in channel when not sending gifs

#

Indeed no fightning

tribal wharf
#

because the issue is i am stupid and i dont pay attention

#

so if im left to my own devices

#

its i go watch a youtube video

#

okay i got this

#

wipe 6 times

#

log out

#

come here,

#

ask question

#

so, i'll still keep coming around, giving advice while admiting im stupid, and asking for help on keys and raids and such, because my reading and comprehension on what i've read isnt great

#

i can actively SEE alot of tiny frame by frame, gcd by gcd "oh god i got hit in the back or wasted the heal from IV"

#

but its still difficult to ... do that and not fuck it up

lusty grotto
#

here you go yogi, something to make you feel better about yesterday's world boss loot

tribal wharf
#

thats great maybe it will make you smarter cuz it has int lol

rough nest
lusty grotto
#

its not great cause i dont have a 90 caster

rough nest
#

Damn

tribal wharf
#

caster LOLOLOLOL

rough nest
#

First try, 1% wipe

#

Second try down, it was not that hard

tribal wharf
#

imagine having a fucking casting bar

#

cringe tbh

lusty grotto
#

gz gz

tribal wharf
#

also delayed ability

#

you hit it but it doesnt go off till in melee (cant think of example but i know they exist)

lusty grotto
#

old school heroic strike

#

not the new arms version

#

and old school cleave

tribal wharf
#

better than 1.0 paladins with seals and judgement

#

the worst system of all time

#

put up a 30 second buff on self to maybe do a thing, or do a weak dumb thing

#

and then judge to remove the buff for maybe dmg or bad effect, repeat infinitely

tribal wharf
#

that is like, 10 iq gameplay

solid sun
#

Good morning

lusty grotto
#

gm

last dock
#

or i just straight up suck, lol

lusty grotto
#

sense's valeera is 45

#

and obviously hes sense

last dock
#

ok, but the dude killed it witout a healer

lusty grotto
#

yes

tribal wharf
#

45 valeera big dps

lusty grotto
#

hes sense

#

he knows how to play

#

and had prep gear

last dock
#

i'm sure about that

#

no questions on that part

tribal wharf
#

just dont get hit ever and u never have to worry about any kind of healing and cna do maximum dps the entire fight

#

duh, it is so simple

solid sun
#

Yo nimchip, wowhead updated their builds

lusty grotto
#

doesnt matter

#

icy veins is still the recommendation

#

the m+ one is fine

#

the raid one ehhh

#

no shield spec

#

it could work depending on damage profile

#

devastating focus is weird to get as thane

#

it aint that bad

#

but 🤷‍♂️

tribal wharf
#

its 30% revenge on main target, which you wil ALWAYS have in raid

solid sun
#

I noticed it took ITF in the m+ build

lusty grotto
#

oh yeah

lusty grotto
tribal wharf
#

thats part of it too why we didnt do well at the raid

#

i didnt set a raid talents

#

just dawning on me reading conversation

lusty grotto
#

to be fair Rhino

#

nome also put ITF on the M+ builds

#

they werent made to be used unless you had the haste rating though

#

but iirc he did put text explaining when to use which

tribal wharf
#

ye, cu i went in with HR is the big one i didnt change but also LS and other garbage

solid sun
#

Yeah

#

Just feels like with most of us having low haste at the start of the expansion season 1 feels more like an HR by default season

#

But maybe people will get the needed haste pretty fast

tribal wharf
#

no shield spec, like nim said hmm

#

what, okay, i have to read why...

lusty grotto
#

its entirely doable to play ITF, you just gotta hyper manage SB

#

min max the fuck out of effective uptime

#

to the point where it might also cost you focus on other important things

tribal wharf
#

shield spec isnt good for raid?

#

where the boss punch you in the face for 1 million

lusty grotto
#

of course its good

#

however, if the fight has mostly magic damage it loses some value

#

which is why i said "it could work depending on damage profile"

tribal wharf
#

hmm, okay, well cuz i picked the one from icy, and it shows no sheild spec like you saying, so im investigating

lusty grotto
#

i was wrong about it on hunters last season for example

#

ok then i would trust no shield spec then

#

i dont know the damage typing in raid atm

tribal wharf
#

is the logic cuz its a highly magic raid?

tribal wharf
#

i should start to work on monk again

#

at least he has a bit of gear

jagged pier
#

dps vel is fine

#

healer is just easier

pastel geyser
#

well..that was a first try xD

coarse bay
#

Our first raid night got bugged out sadge

pastel geyser
#

that was..

#

insanely easy lol

lusty grotto
#

i raid tonight

jagged pier
#

again ppl the ?? bosses have never actually been hard

lusty grotto
lusty grotto
#

tuesday is ddos day most of the time

tribal wharf
#

i cant for life of me figure out why it lists i have 7 m0 done and 1 heroic i looked at the lock outs on calender and zoning in and in the journal

coarse bay
tribal wharf
#

shame i have to wait for reset and do 1 more

tribal wharf
#

cuz one of the dungeons is bugged for vault

#

i'll jus do the mount one

coarse bay
#

Half the raid night gone

#

Poof

lusty grotto
#

confirmed

#

i did all 8 and got the same thing in my vault

tribal wharf
#

i'll do a m0 wt on my monk and look out heavily for it after each dungeon

lusty grotto
#

just redo them today

paper stone
#

I am just absolutely every single failing on the little adds, its done for me, I am done with this shit

tribal wharf
#

i will highly assume it is not the new 4 ones

#

that come with midnight

lusty grotto
#

thats a good assumption

#

it could be AA

tight mural
#

is there an embellishment for the crafted shield? It's hunt for the weapon right?

tribal wharf
#

and go for the offshoot ones, example seat, is showing the legion/BFA world quest if you open the map for it, but it does show the correct map with the bosses on it

lusty grotto
#

seat WQs awards a champ loot

#

so you still wanna do it

ionic fern
lusty grotto
#

even though the dog you have to kill is ass without a shaman

ionic fern
tribal wharf
#

heres the example what i was talking about just now

ivory barn
#

Did fabled close yet?

lusty grotto
#

on NA? yes

#

on EU? no

tribal wharf
#

hmm thats odd

ivory barn
tribal wharf
#

somehow the one i clicked was no shield spec now it is ?

#

CkEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA02AAAzMDzMzMzMzmxsMjxYmGGDLzMzMDGzMAAAAYZAYGDwAbwyiRjZAMbYmNYGzMY2GAMzAAwMgB was what i copied

#

strange

#

xfiles or twilight zone music here

#

found it

lusty grotto
#

thats what mwahi said....

tribal wharf
#

ah, looked slightly different since hes on a phone ui so it didnt immediately click

lusty grotto
#

it does not look different it literally says "Offensive Build set"

#

which is the important part

tribal wharf
#

anyways, i didnt recognize it

ivory barn
#

Run that on ?? keksquad

urban bane
#

hah i looked at the comments on sense's null kill, man people are salty

#

hahahha

lusty grotto
#

yt comments in a nutshell

tribal wharf
#

it is the internet

#

ppl are angry

#

surprise

lusty grotto
#

did they say something about warrior being OP? im guessing they did

tribal wharf
#

kira is coming back now

#

have been watching him do stuff for hour or so now

urban bane
#

just varying from "this must be bugged i cant do it"; "prot warrior is overpowered"; "this isnt really ?? difficulty"; "easy when you can spell reflect the kickable cast"

lusty grotto
#

lmaooo

tribal wharf
#

kick > reflect > kick > repeat

urban bane
tribal wharf
#

such is life of warrior when faced with spell caster

lusty grotto
#

if the vid was posted on wowhead, thats just wowhead professional commenters going in

urban bane
#

"just your average attention seeking exploiter" keks

#

yeah thats sense alright

coarse bay
#

Wait people did it on ptr or is he just spouting nonsense?

#

I didnt think theyd test this

tribal wharf
#

u jelly

#

is how i would respond

tribal wharf
#

and i would laugh

#

and i would say you talk smack u come in game and inspect my achievement

#

and then u see i did it

solid sun
#

Sorry about your raid night cam

coarse bay
lusty grotto
#

time to leverage my downdoots on yt

tribal wharf
#

dont feel bad cam

#

i had a god tier warbound weapon drop

#

equip it, agility

coarse bay
#

I saw

#

Pretty strong

tribal wharf
#

we all take major L from time to time

ivory barn
#

LMAO, you can't spell reflect the one shot, trust me I tried a few times

tribal wharf
#

i could have kept it to save on the stones too probably

#

but i deleted it in rage

#

so i didnt even get the gold

#

cuz i was so mad

undone beacon
solid sun
coarse bay
#

First boss heroic bugged and we had to wait 2 hours for npc to kill it

tribal wharf
#

turns out, there is no reason to rage over champion weapon

undone beacon
#

oop

lusty grotto
ivory barn
# urban bane

Hilarious to people that don't play warrior properly or at all, SR still kills you if you don't interrupt. Only time it didn't for me was phase 1

coarse bay
#

We made it in time to trade normal tier tokens tho so not totally hecked

lusty grotto
#

its ok, its content

#

we can roast the comments here

tribal wharf
lusty grotto
#

consider it a win for skyhold entertainment 🙂

tribal wharf
#

so, as you can see there was no reason i needed to worry lol

#

the enchant is bad, im sure

#

im about to be told

#

it was the cheapest one first time it was 4500g, by time hammer dropped, it was 9.9k for same thing

#

i'll do the 30-50k enchant when i get hero/myth weapon

fathom meteor
#

am i being forced into crafting mh/shield

drowsy comet
coarse bay
fathom meteor
#

but i gotta be the besdt

#

ya know

coarse bay
#

They tend to be the biggest value pieces, but you dont need to optimize you dont want

lusty grotto
#

just read the pins

#

myth tracks are better than both

#

but you dont want to rely on vault RNG

fathom meteor
#

truuu

#

roger

lusty grotto
#

and if you can grab one early, then its very good

#

first voidspire boss drops shield, if you can kill it on myth you can skip a shield craft

tribal wharf
lusty grotto
#

if you can kill saladbar 2.0 you can get a myth weapon

#

well technically saladbar 3.0

tribal wharf
#

shield spec for blacksmithing

lusty grotto
#

since the first one was in TBC

tribal wharf
#

cuz, otherwise, you'd be at the mercy of a keys vault for myth haste shield

ivory barn
#

If I craft my heroic 2H my prot weapon is free upgrades right?

tribal wharf
#

so, with rings, if i have a 250 ring and a 243 ring, and a 246 drops in a 0, i cant trade it

coarse bay
tribal wharf
#

so i am going to apply that logic to your 2h weapon question

lusty grotto
#

not by crafting though

#

free upgrades on drops

#

up to the ilvl of the crafted 2h

ivory barn
#

I have to send a weapon craft before raid tonight or I can't go, that's why I was asking

tribal wharf
#

now that i look at it further

#

far as i can see

#

there is NO haste shield period this season

lusty grotto
#

dont use crests

#

use only the sparks

#

then recraft it later with myth crests

ivory barn
#

What's the difference?

lusty grotto
#

lower ilvl

#

you can use veteran crests or lower, dont use champ or higher

ivory barn
#

Use the crests on different pieces then

lusty grotto
#

yea

#

youre limited in crests, using those when youre gonna recraft with myth crests next week is a waste

#

you dont get them back

drowsy comet
#

i think blizzard put the voidforge quest abit too early in the game, at Decimus in Voidstorm lol

coarse bay
#

To really optimize with current system, you want to only use hero and lower crests for 5/6->6/6 to save crests when u have a higher tier item. But that isnt a realistic optimization for most people

tribal wharf
#

capt obvious here to say try to reconsider on common set slot crafts, unless its total garbage stats for all 3 of our specs

#

some versa mastery crap i imagine

drowsy comet
#

yea but how do I complete it then tho

lusty grotto
#

you simply dont

#

until they drop

tribal wharf
#

head chest shoulder leg gloves

drowsy comet
#

sigh

ivory barn
#

My gear isnt too bad, trading it with fury at the moment

lusty grotto
#

better than mine

#

not a big deal

#

just run m0s

ivory barn
#

We raided last night so I couldn't

tribal wharf
#

ya, get a plate stack gear

#

and then when boss die

#

NEED?? U NEED THAT??

#

its dumb and scammy but its the way

ivory barn
#

I usually reply, with "if you don't need could I have please"

undone beacon
#

i mean its daily lockout on m0s so i dont even bother asking

#

I just run em and get what I get peepo

ivory barn
#

It'll be replaced with m+ next week LETSGOOO

drowsy comet
grave nova
#

how are people getting their routes for M+ btw

drowsy comet
#

bear for questing and delves, super fun

#

still strong too tho

ivory barn
drowsy comet
#

just with Elunes

lusty grotto
#

i just hopped into an 11 delve just to get a bountiful done and got given 5 keys

#

wth

coarse bay
#

The coffer shards auto convert when u enter

ivory barn
#

I guess EU just instant filled

lusty grotto
#

OH

#

ty cam

ivory barn
drowsy comet
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t11 delves already doable? damn

ivory barn
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If you play your cards right yeah, takes me a bit of time tho

drowsy comet
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bruh these randoms ass mfs... keks

ivory barn
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That druid, just shut up and play

solid sun
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Fury seems so weird

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I have no frame of reference for if I’m doing goodly or not

jade pulsar
warm pond
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so how many crests is the ?? nemesis supposed to give?

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because uuuuh

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game is pretty fucking indecisive

jade pulsar
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O.o

warm pond