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youve got time
Load screen doesn't show fabled collected anymore.
compared to the wowhead that shown how many were left 🙁
what Valeeria spec and talents did you use for her?
bruh... i cant get pass the damn 1 set s of adds.. im garbage
Healer, using porcelain tip and overflowing voidspire
Oddly enough
and what ilv did you complete at
300 ppl did it EU
~31k and val 18-20; took 11m 2s
whats best to take from Community Engangment weekly? assuming Hero Crests?
So I crafted a shield this weekend, and got 2 new sparks yesterday when I turned in one purple quest in silvermoon. But can’t use them
Is this bugg
Why didnt u use?
Grats happy
Use them how?
Do you get anything for defeating that delve dude?
Uncapped crests
Yep
Gonna try when I get home, but have sparks for two crafts? Or is it just a bug
Hahahahahahaha,imagine having the time to play to cap crests.
And a mount + title

I've read that they're not so strong as other talents so not good to invest into. But know there was some buffing now and few days wasn't in dungeons to try it
30 uncapped myth 60 uncapped hero crests apparently
From where?
You should have 4 sparks this week, how are you using them that you think it's bugged?
They were always worth
How is that odd, those are exactly what sense used on the world first kill except she was dps
and what I used but with her as healer like you
Not sure actually but even some guys on youtube said so in the begining, also many talent builds like archon for example didn't reccomend those. Things change of course, we have first raid today with my guild so of course i want best choice to have
Archon is archon
nice
fml , i cant do this shit
That's kinda troll. Whoever said that,don't listen to them.
You were taking them before already - only discussion point was last node in m+ since it was pure ST.
Just keep in mind that if you follow archon you may not have specific explanations as to why people are using those and more often than not, most people just blindly follow r1 streamers even when those talent picks don't apply to them
Archon is an aggregator, what's in there is just what people "feel" is best, when most of the time it ain't
Also it's likely archon was pulling from beta logs
Yeah, it's similar with those tier lists I think, but thanks anw, i'll fix wehn i'm in game
And people in beta were just fucking around with talents
So not really the best source


this bs low key wanna make me quit this game
why? its not that bad
bro what you mean is not that bad, you guys are geared know your class and i am not like you guys, i struggle to do everything
geared yes
?? are skill checks, that can be beaten with gear later
cant do it now
just do it later with more gear
i think valeera lvl doesn't matter, she barely did more than what ppl said while mine is 45, but in my regular delves she is solo clearing
mine is 16
is just frustrating seeing mages, hunters and that killing it and im here not being able to kill adds..
single target
I have 646 haste
Hey could be worst. I dont even know what you are talking about 😂
the adds dont really matter they immunity runs out anyway
and your cleave will just kill them
Got up through heroic salad bar today with raid. Prot warrior feeling awesome post buffs
Did anyone do it as Fury DPS? I don't feel like playing tank
The Numbers feel great so I disagree haha
numbers != how something feels
I thought I was there mb
?? nullaeus gets very sketchy in the last 20% or so
@lusty grotto last night I was gonna try to craft wrists as my second one, but it sad in the meny that I missed sparks
but I had them in my ”bags” maybe because I’m on eu
Agree to disagree I guess. Big numbers make me feel better
i tried it was kinda similar to prot
you just need to take valeera heal orbs more actively
24k dps is enough to kill the Nullaus boss?
it takes ages, maybe someone got good talent or trick
and there is not the tankbuster as dps, but melee swings are not better
ilvl is the best trick against him
i did it!!! Sus prot gang rise!!
first attempt he hit 0.6% health, got him on the second try
I just did too, also in two tries! Hell yeah prot gang
yeaaah!!!
by the time it hit 1:30 the boss had less than 800 slots left, dont know where i placed
in europe we are at 669/4000
lads i got to have my hero ish moment in raid tonight
Hit the enrage on heroic vorasius and managed to save us a coupls seconds bu stepping out of the raid and having BSV + wall
gg guys
this the kind of thing that happens and you remember it 20 years later
You can just sit on offensive cds to kill adds.
You aren't in a rush until the last phase.
i gave up, to depress to do this crap.. not geared , not good etc
Can't stress yourself out over it too much.
can anyone point me to the thane colo comparisons please?
I just haven't had time to level or run m0 or do anything
Gear doesn't hurt but it also doesn't help all that much.
Bs work and rl I havent unwind and sit and play in 3 weeks is just getting to me
It's mostly just not spacing out for 10-15 minutes.
What comparison?
I honestly dont even know why I tried.. I know i was not good to get that.
Just frustrated
you tell me
? Ok. One is Colossus one is MT.
one has demolish one has thunderblast
i mean what kind of comparison are you looking for in the first place
idk these discords used to be littered with information
uninformed breakdown, informed breakdown
the toy is pretty cool
dps vel or your weak
its hof so probably gunna be more than 4000 ppl anyway
it will close on reset after its full
I think it closes on 4000
on NA
agree i'm weak as fuck
but also i woke up at 6am for this shit and it was already 500/4000 so i just wanted to guarantee the win
again its HoF
so its likely to close the reset after 4000 is achieved
like more guilds get the acheievement than are in HoF
not risking my internet points on a "likely"
especially after i killed the world boss at 11pm on a tuesday in EU
nothing is likely anymore
i expect europe hof to be full in 10h at most
so 5 hours after wowhead posts hof was half, its done
lets see if theres a grace period now..
europe is at 931/4000 in almost 4h on a wednesday morning
Missed title by about a minute :( 237 prot :D with bin tier valeera
well that confirms it
Oceanic
I did it first pull as dps then switched to heal
dude trucks
dps i felt was really a non issue as long as i could kill the bugs in time at 50% before i ran out of ways to clear debuff
after that its just a slow slog
probably have title if i did more damage though, so maybe damage issue for me lol
thats really unfair
Is this Eu or Na?
just who can log on first
I'm OCE
yeah it's giga bad actually
Might have a chance Eu. wiped at 20% due to bad CD management
Yeah, spent all day at work, came home and did it only to miss out by a min, feels sad :(
maybe if achievement was first 24 hours or something
i dunno
Im still trying him with Valeria DPS. She's no push over
my healer valeera did 15k
she's like level 18
i think healer is just way better but healer won't kick so you could fuck up that and wipe

Jakey she healer?
for prot it doesnt matter
for everyone else healer for sure
dps
which curios did you guys give valeera for the nemesis fight?
guardian druid in my guild says ogre phase is hard because you need 2-3 ironfur 24/7 so can't spend rage on dps
which ever she had
i had the time bubble and the extra crit chance
Ogre phase is bad since you can accidentally spell reflect his bolt instead of boss DoT
i actually agree u should use vel healer btw
the strike didnt kill me at the end for some reason
but i was on like 20% hp
Voidlust and uh, holy hand grenade i think
i guess i parried or dodged it
i think i should not have used grenade though
healer valeera insta-dispels the dot so you can use reflect on ogre/imploding strike
the strike i found the most annoying thing tbh, sometimes block and ip soaked everything and it hit for 40k
sometimes hit for 300k
with mitigation
feels super awkward
oh imploding is just physical ok
the boss definitely ramps damage after he spawns the ogre
but he has no buff for it
giga private aura
yeah he's like 3x bigger
1st time i got to ogre i ignored it and wiped
2nd time i killed ogre and cleared boss
Disrupting shout doesnt help too much ogre fight besides to get him out of the void pool
yeah i only wiped to ogre
i am getting a little bit tilted at 2 sub 5%
i just lusted orge
fought him for like 10 mins
disrupting just lets you freely interrupt ogre with pummel, then when boss does his cast you disrupting then after that you just pummel boss again and tank shadow bolts
i haven't played prot in several years
and i had no lust drums too
just did it natty
yeah i brought 0 consumes
meanwhile guardian druid can't kill ogre with incarn+drums 😭 nice balanced challenge blizz
i also didnt have disrupting shout on my bars
beast mode
Oh i should have taken drums lol
Ask a proper question then. You asked for a comparison between MT / Colossus. Comparison of what ..damage? Rotation? Aesthetics? Builds?
can i get a comparison of which is more thermatically warrior and why its slayer?
no
MT is mount thematically warrior
blizz has decided warrior theme is press thunder clap
nothing else

you will press thunderclap every 4 seconds until the heat death of the universe
that's all we're allowed to do
i swear that one BFA patch has ruined prot warrior forever
yep
it's so fucking sad
I want to do it every 2 seconds.
I enjoy TC spam.

yo can we get a new guide writer i want a refund on this one
get me a guide writer who wants focused rage back
Jep. Though I will say that some gameplay changes are needed. The rotation of TC-SS is getting old.
wiping late on him feels so bad because the fight is so long
i'm fine with pressing TC but i'm not fine with the class feeling gigashit outside of avatar
and revenge being a fake button
and execute being a fake button
avatar uptime pretty high though
When did avatar lose the snare clear?
this expansion
feels bad man
yeah like a few weeks ago
we still have a snare clear
Fearless
if you really need it
nah that doesnt work on anything
zerker rage clears snare
Anybody on Nullaeus ? What do you guys think
its fine
totally fine
yeah but it's EASY easy for us
Doable with ilvl just 237 or so ?
yes
ye
Yah, Prot is in a weird place where our generators hit more than our Spenders. Usually it's the other way around.
I tried it on guardian but I’m getting one shot
i did at 237
Phalanx is just illegally bad design
like actually criminal
doesntm matter the class
i fucking hated the tier set
i fucking hate the apex talents
Lazy design,same as tier.
love getting my innocent ass compeltely PENETRATED by 4 pvp driven bleep, just let me get my world quests done smh 
yet they are better than anything else
they need to rework revenge or something
give us a choice node with regular revenge or legion revenge
WoTLK revenge
why does the m+ build not take indomitable
because that talent is dogshit
They need to rework the class from ground up. We have too much dependancies and various interactions tied to SS/TC.
arms got buffed tho
arms got a bandage after being in a car crash
they still do less than guardian druid
idk how to answer the question though other than "the other ones are better"

Now it's a car collision,not a crash.
i mean theres like 1 flex point can put it on what ever
i use bloodsurge

generous enough
Speaking of Warrior design, them not making Demolish an Empowered ability was such a silly missed opportunity imo
empowered abilities on tanks are illegal i think
idk why bdk got one
i wanna agree though demolish is cool as fuck
It is. But the rest of Colossus is a wreck, especially from m+ perspective.
well it would be cool if the CDR actually mattered
but you just have to tie it to demo shout anyway
and yeah colossus just feels clunky in m+ for grouping big packs
i just wanna level my last level man leave me alone
Let lil gup lvl 
cause you're a druid.
joking aside, I was ganked more by druids over the last like week than anything else because they wanted to get their licks in when guardian was dumb damage.
it still does dumb damage
240 ilvl/level 13 valeera healer
had multiple under 5% wipes took me about 2h and 10-ish wipes
Rogue, Rogue, Rogue, Hunter, Warrior (Arms even too what the fucking fuck), Mage, Warlock.. sigh
yes per char
Yes
ok cool
I should wait to do it in a bountiful delve too or...?
Delves are still new to me 🙂
You want to make sure doing it on atleast a Tier 8+ Delve, and yea bountiful maybe too
bountiful is irrelevant
well not this week u get gear guarenteed from it
but just kill ?? boss give u a map

Im looking atr the leaderboard and I see a lot of warriors on the board. hard to know what spec they played, but thats interesting.
I mean that board doesnt update fast enough so its hard to tell
But yes being able to sr essence makesnit kind of free
Not that is isnt free for other specs
What talents you running for the ?? delve
Depends if you are healer vel or dps vel
What would you recommend to run her as?
Dont matter really but dps is definatly probably harder
I did healer and just ran the raid wow head build.
Did the job
10 minute kill just gotta defensive the stacking tank buster at end
that Dstance talent that reduces the dmg just made the physical tickle without doing anything else extra lol
can i please have a link to that board?
No im not at a computer
EU still has free slots. Prot warr + healer is really easy mode. Just dont die to Ogre phase
it was at 1200 about half an hour ago so there are a lot of slots
Hey!
What talents did you run?
america realm still has slots too right?
yup just oneshot it
how long did it take? at 239 ilvl its like 7:30 just to get to 50%
nope i think they completed the board
about 15 minutes
15-16 minutes
colossus or thane ?
can you 2x check that it is full america realm?
https://www.dataforazeroth.com/leaderboards/race-solo-nullaeus?rank=1 i was using this one?
my delve gave me this. My original plan was to make wep/shield 259 but with this.. is it prob worth to go shield + crafted boots? (for now)
thank you very much
did he kill it on normal or ??
ohh so now there is no point to do him now. can come beack with myth gear and wreck him
this one has only 169 entries for europe it's way behind for whatever reason
it gives crests outside the cap but if you don't care about that then yes you can come later
https://www.dataforazeroth.com/leaderboards/race-solo-nullaeus/us?rank=3990 this doesn't show 4k ppl got it
it updates when people log off.
it updates when people log off.
With companion healer 243 ilvl
ohh rip/ well I guess i can do it before reset with more gear
nice
took me about 12 mins at 239 as well
with 201 shield + wep
so sounds about right
Any idea how many Eu slot scurrently?
how to convert key shards into keys
they do automatically when you go in delves
All i know is that I wont get a spot, as there is no way there aint 4k ppl have filled it on EU by the time I am done with my work 
be honest what was your ilvl 😄
243
I just did it with 230 you cant imagine my pain
I thought i dont have time to do world tour
I do, its a slog with her as healer
had to pray rng
Gz 
Bigwigs bugging out cant look up the pull count but i wouldn't be suprised if its over 100
Idk how difficult it is as dps
Yo anyone who did nullaeus is valeera lvl 45 needed?
I would like to ask a little bit about this rotation thing on wowhead if anyone here is knowledgable enough to enlighten me. Is Execute supposed to be lower prio than revenge and ignore pain as a spender? (I guess not since that would make it never be used?) Also, the suggested talent build includes Wrecking Throw which to my eyes looks like it does a lot of damage per cast so could maybe be used for damage if you dont need the utility but it is not mentioned at all in the rotation, on any of the 4 tabs available. There also doesn't appear to be any mention of our Apex Thunder Clap > Shield Slam rotation, is it true that this should just be ignored?
M+ talent build works? Or is there smth more specialized
Hurry up, you got maybe 30min left before it is filled
Filled what?
Just go full tanky tank
Yea im playing tank this season
Oh right
Not at all, mine was 45, I think she is tuned down / don’t scale in that specific delve, bc she owns in regular ones
Cool
U nean for top 4k? Does that give anything?
Other than title
I just want the cool mount xD
Like she does 100k st in delves and 10k against nullanus
Yes she does 3x my dmg (I do delves as prot)
Don’t
Dont? XD
IP is a pure rage dump, not a rotational. Use it to dump rage over 70+
Exe is real weak, low rage to dam value when you cast it above 20 rage consumption (and dead on AoE)
As Col you can remove it from your bars, as Thane you can keep it to try get the opportunity value from it
Yes, throw can be used to do dam
Oh is exe really that bad now?
damn, i die below 10% just of dmg
Saved
You will quickly die at the end if you start executing
so revenge > execute on single target as thane? (if you are above 20 rage when casting)
So what does spell reflection work at Nullaeus ? if at all ?
Sounds about right, havent minmaxed Thane personally
I play Col
Only deflect it does no damage but you dont take the spell
And if you play valeera healer, it doesn’t matter since she will insta dispell you
Anyone nice enough to dm me a talent page for null bro? 
3% and I fatfinger my interrupt. Oh well, he dies tonight
Maybe search sense vid somewhere in this channel, I went with regular talents, with bsv+indom, no double charge/ more def stuff in class tree
You got to go again, EU is closing fast
i presume it will be closed in hours at most
Fuck. Work is getting in the way 😂
nah i die be low 5% , is his dmg increase scaling then?
He enrages, yes
is colossus still more dmg than thane? I've been a bit out of the loop
Same boat, aint no way i get it, work gonna work
Any other sources of Myth crests this week besides delve boss?
ANy good build for this shit, because the small adds are killing me, my lvl16 valeera cant heal me fast enough xD
but over all it is so much easiet with prot warr than with my guardian druid
easier
MUCH easier
at least for me
Just stun the adds at 5 stacks, then you should be fine
Should allow you to reset stacks before it becomes dangerous
I just fucking cant kill those small adds fast enough
I did reset them but then they fuck me up again 🙁
also I dont see anywhere in game what is the current status of kills on EU :<
Just play it better, and ya got this. Maybe save ava+demo for em to speed things up
Spam clap and revenge
Last time I saw it was over 2k, like 30 min ago
Ppl doing it with 230 gear, just play better
Ya got this
Use drums and pot, to speed things up
leave the instance then open the menu to go in and hover over one of the icons and it'll tell you
talents won't make much difference
just save demo and avatar the small adds should evaporate they weren't a problem at all for me at 240
Light’s potential pot?
What talents are optimal ?
idk man post what you're using
That is the one
So when does he actually enrage? Because he's been giving these hits multiple times at 15-20% already
Or are the rng gods not on my side today
when I use shield block and 2 ignore pain it does like nothing
I wish, I'm always at the edge with IP and SB up
very good very nice fight
i would definitely be running BSV and probably indom
i dropped it
just swap enduring for indom
and bloodborne
I am new to prot so IDK what you talking abvout
for bloodborne what tho
so.. like this?
ravager yes
clickable one?
yeah thats the build sense went
Whirling blade
he used the non automatic for the burst

but it really doesnt matter, it depends on your dps for adds
oh fk me i gotta do delves to tier10.. anyone know fastest delve rn xd
I did the silvermoon delve
So indom not needed and u can go more dps
it does seem impossible when she is NOT healer lol
if u do a bountiful delve without the key to unlock coffer it doesnt consume the bountiful right?
Iirc it does. Haven’t touched delves since TWW S2 though.
thats the build except he went Storm Shield
so this is best build for this shitter of a boss ? 😄
Nah i did it with dps vel
you can see when you go in the delve how many did the achievement
It's the one sense used, I also used it
I dont see it anywhere but I also use elvui
in the screen when you enter you have the boss icon and you hover over it
and it says xxxx/4000
2600/4000 still a chance
but it fills fast u give it about 3-4 hours
anyway good morning from NA
na is full
ah
my lil brother got it as monk last night i was watching him do it
but when he did there were 1,200 on NA side
im having trobules with 2nd pack of adds, but 1st and 3d are fine lol
reset your stacks with any stun
or SR
i.e. use SR when the stack is about to fade (or stun the one or two casting it)
oh thanks 
was using SR for boss's debuff
dont use SR when the boss is about to re-activate though and if youre using dps valeera
if youre using heal valeera, you could be fine
also good news i fixed my mouse issue @vital sinew turns out it wasnt the game. It was my dualshock usb cable still plugged in - the controller wasnt which is weird but it works
I cant fucking stun the Little Shits long enough to lose the fucking stacks. No matter how I fucking pproach this
not long enough
obviously
you stun before it fades
But u have shockwzvr storm bolt aoe and intim shout
stunning them long does nothing
Can just chain
They refresh it by almost every hit lol
It a cast
its not a melee thing
hmmmm
same as the bleed in the first adds
Thanks that puts it to different perspective thanks
U shockwave then you st stun the next cast, and it reset. I used my pot on them to blast asap. Fun fight tho
They don't cast all at the same time
How is the 25% mark ? Harder than the little shits ?
ah so ignore 😄
Ye, it deals damage but not that bursty, you just need to be careful with position
does a curse slow which you can dispel by berserker rage with fearless
but thats about it
btw when the little shits spawn, you can blast them inside the aoe on the floor, it's no damage at all, blast them
Oh yeah true didn't think about it, I didn't clean it
just blast all the adds lmao
the last add you can either ignore or blast too, but its more important to dps the boss because he gets a damage amp and grows
I used lust on exec phase tho, dunno if it's the go to, but worked for me
I did like a 3% wipe earlier, that's why I used lust next pull ahahah
U can sr the bolts i think they do damage back tbh
yeah
btw. are there any rankings of who done that? I remember yesterday someone was posting Sense was #1 (of course he is 😄 )
what about the Apex rotation, only useful for damage reduction? only for aoe?
U dont think about it
dont follow wowhead
If ss is up u press it
anything to improve here lol
Bubble
where do I find good info then?
icyveins or #protection-faq
thank you
i did porcelain blade tip
but mantle can be okay i guess
does anyone know why my meter looks like this in combat?
really lol
goat !
yes, the breakdown will not update
part of the addon changes
i swear it did earlier
it will show stuff once youre out of it
why are you even looking at that and not whats happening on screen anyway
wanted to see which spells do more dmg but ig i can after too
uhh
is this your first time playing prot or something
the prio is basically that
on ST, SS will be #1
on AOE, TB will be #1
you still TB > SS >TC > Revenge/exe as thane in ST
a ye ik but i mainly do it for other alts i play too esp my majestic skinners
also im doing up to t10 delves and mf invaded me in t8 already lol
it is clear to me now that prot warr is a better tank than guardian because I struggled with guardian to even get to 50% but with warr its like ez mode
or SS > Rev (depending on rage, this moves down after TC) > TC as colossus
map is still capped at t8 on gear drop right?
t8 is fine
also one thing i was using this for was to look how much a spell reflected spell does, but ig we cant even see that anymore either right
you can
just out of combat
floating combat text will still show damage, so thats still an option as a quick glance
just no WA to only list reflected damage
Single ? New delve boss took a whopping 1 pull. I haven't done a 10 delve yet but I hope the ?? Is a lot harder than that.
lol
it is,
it was same for me
first pull kill but at ?? its crazy
I am undergeared as well as my companion is low lvl
thanks for advices guys
nope
Am I just to slow/bad with like average 23k dps? He just enrages me in p3 after the third add and I cant keep up and die
Fell like I’ve seen 4000 fabled warriors so far
i dont remember how much dps i did tbh
a lot more than just warriors doing it
i did it without lust, but its worth a try using drums for that last part
That’s what I mean. I’m surprised fabled still open.
I think Liquid found a way around the restriction to show kicks from party members, kinda big
those arent kicks
those are external cd
those are raid cds
whats the deal with the 1 boss raid, how do i kill it lol
take its hp to 0
tried it on LFR and we wiped 2 times and then i just leave the group
something about a taunt swap maybe with boss stacks, but i asked him if there was one, the other tank
Ohh
and something about go in a portal
hm i see
and something about 1/2 raid in portal and 1/2 out and kill the adds before they pop ou to real world or he eats them
and away from boss tank the adds
he consome them or somethin
but he hurts
totally annihilated my raid, not even funny lol
i can do that, and i will
i just want to ask here first, to try to talk to a real human being
that can answer questions when i dont understand wall of text
but like, you are telling me to go look it up and also not try to give short tldr answer about ip
rhino is a rhino, cat is a cat
what do you mean, ive given the tldr answer several times
throughout the years
use IP at 70+ rage only, thats it
thats the tldr answer
if i had to count ive at least mentioned that 500 times
for over a decade
and so have people in here
Legit just watch a yt guide 2 min for dreamrift
dw
Best explanation than quick walls of texts here
hes just yogi'ing
im not coming around looking for fights man lol
nobody is fighting
because the issue is i am stupid and i dont pay attention
so if im left to my own devices
its i go watch a youtube video
okay i got this
wipe 6 times
log out
come here,
ask question
so, i'll still keep coming around, giving advice while admiting im stupid, and asking for help on keys and raids and such, because my reading and comprehension on what i've read isnt great
i can actively SEE alot of tiny frame by frame, gcd by gcd "oh god i got hit in the back or wasted the heal from IV"
but its still difficult to ... do that and not fuck it up
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here you go yogi, something to make you feel better about yesterday's world boss loot
thats great maybe it will make you smarter cuz it has int lol
Damn
caster LOLOLOLOL
gz gz
also delayed ability
you hit it but it doesnt go off till in melee (cant think of example but i know they exist)
better than 1.0 paladins with seals and judgement
the worst system of all time
put up a 30 second buff on self to maybe do a thing, or do a weak dumb thing
and then judge to remove the buff for maybe dmg or bad effect, repeat infinitely
that is like, 10 iq gameplay
Good morning
gm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skqTYQ-q3vo killed this dude too, but i could not survive without valeera as a healer and my kill was 5 mins longer than his, did they change something on EU? boss hit me like a truck with tank hits, even in shield block + IP stacked
WORLD FIRST IS CLICKBAIT WHO CARES
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8A9HZ3gGVxjqfpDN
fun fight, maybe a little too easy
or i just straight up suck, lol
ok, but the dude killed it witout a healer
yes
45 valeera big dps
just dont get hit ever and u never have to worry about any kind of healing and cna do maximum dps the entire fight
duh, it is so simple
Yo nimchip, wowhead updated their builds
doesnt matter
icy veins is still the recommendation
the m+ one is fine
the raid one ehhh
no shield spec
it could work depending on damage profile
devastating focus is weird to get as thane
it aint that bad
but 🤷♂️
its 30% revenge on main target, which you wil ALWAYS have in raid
I noticed it took ITF in the m+ build
oh yeah
except you barely revenge as thane
thats part of it too why we didnt do well at the raid
i didnt set a raid talents
just dawning on me reading conversation
to be fair Rhino
nome also put ITF on the M+ builds
they werent made to be used unless you had the haste rating though
but iirc he did put text explaining when to use which
ye, cu i went in with HR is the big one i didnt change but also LS and other garbage
Yeah
Just feels like with most of us having low haste at the start of the expansion season 1 feels more like an HR by default season
But maybe people will get the needed haste pretty fast
its entirely doable to play ITF, you just gotta hyper manage SB
min max the fuck out of effective uptime
to the point where it might also cost you focus on other important things
of course its good
however, if the fight has mostly magic damage it loses some value
which is why i said "it could work depending on damage profile"
hmm, okay, well cuz i picked the one from icy, and it shows no sheild spec like you saying, so im investigating
i was wrong about it on hunters last season for example
ok then i would trust no shield spec then
i dont know the damage typing in raid atm
is the logic cuz its a highly magic raid?
nah no changes for eu
dps vel is fine
healer is just easier
well..that was a first try xD
Our first raid night got bugged out 
i raid tonight
again ppl the ?? bosses have never actually been hard
which is why i dont like to join tuesday guilds
gz
tuesday is ddos day most of the time
i cant for life of me figure out why it lists i have 7 m0 done and 1 heroic i looked at the lock outs on calender and zoning in and in the journal
Ya idk how easily it happens or if itll be fixed, but first boss in hero bugged out and we had to wait 2 hours for an npc to kill it while we couldnt release or anything. We were able to trade the tier pieces with 13 minutes left on timer
shame i have to wait for reset and do 1 more
oof
yes yogi one of them is bugged
confirmed
i did all 8 and got the same thing in my vault
i'll do a m0 wt on my monk and look out heavily for it after each dungeon
just redo them today
I am just absolutely every single failing on the little adds, its done for me, I am done with this shit
is there an embellishment for the crafted shield? It's hunt for the weapon right?
and go for the offshoot ones, example seat, is showing the legion/BFA world quest if you open the map for it, but it does show the correct map with the bosses on it
You cooking again yogi. Every build in IV has shield Spec. The only exception is the one which specifically states "you lose a lot of defensive value".
even though the dog you have to kill is ass without a shaman
Did fabled close yet?
hmm thats odd
This was the big question
somehow the one i clicked was no shield spec now it is ?
CkEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA02AAAzMDzMzMzMzmxsMjxYmGGDLzMzMDGzMAAAAYZAYGDwAbwyiRjZAMbYmNYGzMY2GAMzAAwMgB was what i copied
strange
xfiles or twilight zone music here
found it
thats what mwahi said....
ah, looked slightly different since hes on a phone ui so it didnt immediately click
it does not look different it literally says "Offensive Build set"
which is the important part
anyways, i didnt recognize it
Run that on ?? 
yt comments in a nutshell
did they say something about warrior being OP? im guessing they did
just varying from "this must be bugged i cant do it"; "prot warrior is overpowered"; "this isnt really ?? difficulty"; "easy when you can spell reflect the kickable cast"
lmaooo
kick > reflect > kick > repeat
such is life of warrior when faced with spell caster
if the vid was posted on wowhead, thats just wowhead professional commenters going in
Wait people did it on ptr or is he just spouting nonsense?
I didnt think theyd test this
no clue
and i would laugh
and i would say you talk smack u come in game and inspect my achievement
and then u see i did it
Sorry about your raid night cam

time to leverage my downdoots on yt
we all take major L from time to time
LMAO, you can't spell reflect the one shot, trust me I tried a few times
i could have kept it to save on the stones too probably
but i deleted it in rage
so i didnt even get the gold
cuz i was so mad
Did something happen? I just got here
On the bright side at least you got the kill
First boss heroic bugged and we had to wait 2 hours for npc to kill it
turns out, there is no reason to rage over champion weapon
oop
yes thats what i told you
Hilarious to people that don't play warrior properly or at all, SR still kills you if you don't interrupt. Only time it didn't for me was phase 1
We made it in time to trade normal tier tokens tho so not totally hecked
consider it a win for skyhold entertainment 🙂
so, as you can see there was no reason i needed to worry lol
the enchant is bad, im sure
im about to be told
it was the cheapest one first time it was 4500g, by time hammer dropped, it was 9.9k for same thing
i'll do the 30-50k enchant when i get hero/myth weapon
am i being forced into crafting mh/shield
you´re forced to tank in this world (of warcraft)
Nobody is forcing you to do anything you dont want
They tend to be the biggest value pieces, but you dont need to optimize you dont want
just read the pins
myth tracks are better than both
but you dont want to rely on vault RNG
and if you can grab one early, then its very good
first voidspire boss drops shield, if you can kill it on myth you can skip a shield craft
im not the foremost expert on this matter but i have shield spec and there is no haste raid shield i can see, so i will be doing that personally
if you can kill saladbar 2.0 you can get a myth weapon
well technically saladbar 3.0
shield spec for blacksmithing
since the first one was in TBC
cuz, otherwise, you'd be at the mercy of a keys vault for myth haste shield
If I craft my heroic 2H my prot weapon is free upgrades right?
so, with rings, if i have a 250 ring and a 243 ring, and a 246 drops in a 0, i cant trade it
Secondaries on your wep and shield arent something to care about unless u have the option
so i am going to apply that logic to your 2h weapon question
yes
not by crafting though
free upgrades on drops
up to the ilvl of the crafted 2h
I have to send a weapon craft before raid tonight or I can't go, that's why I was asking
now that i look at it further
far as i can see
there is NO haste shield period this season
craft weapon without crests
dont use crests
use only the sparks
then recraft it later with myth crests
What's the difference?
Use the crests on different pieces then
yea
youre limited in crests, using those when youre gonna recraft with myth crests next week is a waste
you dont get them back
i think blizzard put the voidforge quest abit too early in the game, at Decimus in Voidstorm lol
To really optimize with current system, you want to only use hero and lower crests for 5/6->6/6 to save crests when u have a higher tier item. But that isnt a realistic optimization for most people
not really
capt obvious here to say try to reconsider on common set slot crafts, unless its total garbage stats for all 3 of our specs
some versa mastery crap i imagine
yea but how do I complete it then tho
head chest shoulder leg gloves
sigh
My gear isnt too bad, trading it with fury at the moment
We raided last night so I couldn't
ya, get a plate stack gear
and then when boss die
NEED?? U NEED THAT??
its dumb and scammy but its the way
I usually reply, with "if you don't need could I have please"
i mean its daily lockout on m0s so i dont even bother asking
I just run em and get what I get 
It'll be replaced with m+ next week 
healing is quite fun as druid, instead of getting flamed, i get compliments 
how are people getting their routes for M+ btw
My sadness was the 250 trinket is a delve trinket
just with Elunes

i just hopped into an 11 delve just to get a bountiful done and got given 5 keys
wth
The coffer shards auto convert when u enter
I guess EU just instant filled
So didn't have to buy that toy? 😭
t11 delves already doable? damn
If you play your cards right yeah, takes me a bit of time tho
bruh these randoms ass mfs... 
That druid, just shut up and play
i usually check tank streamers discords - some of them post their MDT routes there
so how many crests is the ?? nemesis supposed to give?
because uuuuh
game is pretty fucking indecisive
O.o



