protection

[lusty grotto]

i dont focus on it, but rage and i have 80%+ uptime

[warm plinth]

Which is why you don't need to track it

Shield Block is our primary mitigation tool and is the thing you need to ensure you have 100% uptime on (while tanking, but whenever possible when not tanking as well for damage)

[cerulean tusk]

What if... magic/bleed dam?

[mighty valley]

anyone want to make a joke out of this, cmon gang

[lusty grotto]

what is this? legion?

[cerulean tusk]

indeed we must spam IP, then IP some more, chargeweave IP

[hallow sentinel]

yeah of course I am gonna have shield block 100%, its the initial big pulls that burn through your IP so damn quickly

thanks for the info though, I will be more mindful about this in my gameplay

[mighty valley]

thankfully we also generate the most rage on pull

[lusty grotto]

you also generate a lot of rage in big pulls

[mighty valley]

so by playing by the same rules, you naturally put up a lot of IP anyway

[lusty grotto]

yep

[cerulean tusk]

It's almost as if... it was designed to be like that

https://giphy.com/gifs/shocked-surprised-cats-PUBxelwT57jsQ

Question is, by chance, over many itterations, each slowly improving to this point... or, some dev actually put thought into it

you know the answer

[lusty grotto]

they just stumbled upon it while redesigning shield barrier

and heavily nerfing legion's version

and adding a gcd to it in BFA

and then removing it

[daring marlin]

put that shit back on the gcd

[cerulean tusk]

Dont remind me of GCD push era

those were some dark times

[daring marlin]

or take WoG off gcd

some bullshit

[warm plinth]

RIP off-GCD demo

[lusty grotto]

[cerulean tusk]

Demolish off the GCD

sick

[lusty grotto]

that one does still hurt ghash

[daring marlin]

A GCD of no damage hell yeah dude

[warm plinth]

Tbf they did actually increase the duration of basically everything that got left on GCD after they reverted some of it

to accommodate the empty global

[cerulean tusk]

They should make execute off the GCD; so you get to chose - exe or IP

https://giphy.com/gifs/culture--think-hmm-d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY

[meager quail]

Give ignore pain a 24hr cool-down so we can make old people jokes

[warm plinth]

Always weird to see you here Mez, howdy

[meager quail]

Howdy good sir

Good to be back tbh, taking off S3 kinda sucked

Wish I’d chosen the warrior life sooner too

[lofty warren]

!ip

[lusty grotto]

i will slap you

[solid sun]

If I do a slash I see spoiler and wordle

We have a wordle command?

Or is that just discord

[warm plinth]

It's a wordle bot it looks like

If it's a discord command, it will say built-in on the far right

[meager quail]

I’m sure lots of people play wordle when they’re taking a slash

[lofty warren]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[solid sun]

Would it be visible to everyone

[tribal wharf]

i am very mad about this image

[solid sun]

Or just the person using the command

[warm plinth]

Everyone

[lofty warren]

is that charles kirkus? ready to watch ppl get emotional

[solid sun]

Pepega play wordle

Test it out

[solid sun]

Dang you got got

[warm plinth]

It's probably usable in off-topic or something

[lofty warren]

┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

[warm plinth]

jk

blocked there too

[lofty warren]

world.com

[solid sun]

Trinket tuning

[lofty warren]

wordle.com

[solid sun]

Just hit

[tribal wharf]

im bored

[warm plinth]

@steady karma why you guys baiting us with wordle bot when you can't use it anywhere

[tribal wharf]

i dunno how badly i want to send a 192 paladin into zeros lmao

[solid sun]

Yogi

Can you evaluate the trinket tuning for us

[meager quail]

Surely we can play wordle without needing a bot

How does wordle work?

[warm plinth]

https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html

[tribal wharf]

i mean

what one

if it has big number and small cd its good

if its has long cd and small number, it sucks

if it heals, it sucks

[lusty grotto]

tbh i prefer the one where you find the relation between words

[tribal wharf]

I DUNNO BOYS

can he survive a zero

[sand condor]

Ye

No problem

[tribal wharf]

im not confident he will live

[sand condor]

Or otherwise, do the 5 minute void zone campaign for pre raid

Gives a ton of 214 gear

[uncut burrow]

Healer won’t be bored

[ivory barn]

Just don't mongo and gg

[lusty grotto]

people getting yogi'd left and right

https://klipy.com/gifs/kevin-hart-stand-up-comedy

[frank bobcat]

decided to swap into Sus prot since its only a 1k dps difference between thane at current ilvls, will probably swap back once i hit 10s during the first few weeks but man, i love pressing demolish too much to care about the performance diff

[cerulean tusk]

you can tank a m0 comfortably in 180 gear, you will be more than fine

[lofty warren]

I did m0s as 150 ilvl no problem

[cerulean tusk]

I want to believe you, but it is you

[lusty grotto]

its not a massive difference, play what you want

[lofty warren]

it really wasnt hard just push ur buttons and kite. not any hard than shadowlands s1

[frank bobcat]

same! fresh 90, just make your own group & watch the 240s roll in, feels great to tank

[lofty warren]

shadowlands s1 so aids kite all day

[lusty grotto]

when they make a tier set favoring one or the other, then that's when we'll flat out recommend the one

[frank bobcat]

definitely! if all goes well when s1 drops ill just stick with Sus, i did the same in season 3 tww & made it to 3k with almost zero burnt keys

[cerulean tusk]

Bear, go in with all CDs, slap for 5 sec, rush out - go boomie for the rest

gg ez pz

SL in a nutshell

[toxic pewter]

wat that mean sus prot

[amber cargo]

so tomorrow do we get daily m0 resets?

[toxic pewter]

yes

[amber cargo]

excellent

[toxic pewter]

well in NA at least

[amber cargo]

yea, NA

[toxic pewter]

yea

[urban bane]

Anyone else get a weird bug where you try to fight the last boss of the tier and your games crashes? Unsure what is going on, but it seems like some kind of L'ura Error.

[sonic crag]

But if we're already ilvl 240+ and have access to heroic crests, why farm M0s?

[lusty grotto]

id say you answered your own question

[lusty grotto]

[sonic crag]

IM STILL TRACKING IP!!!!

[lusty grotto]

you do you

[undone beacon]

fuck thats good

first time we get there i'm alt+f4ing and using that

[meager quail]

I had to reread it three times to stop reading it as LUA

[urban bane]

hehe!

[lofty warren]

what ilvl do the world quest weekly things give

[lusty grotto]

220

and world quests themselves also can reward 220

[tribal wharf]

box give me weapon, already have lol

shame

[lofty warren]

this one

[lusty grotto]

220

[tribal wharf]

eversong box

for paladin

[lofty warren]

do i have to do it

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

[tribal wharf]

i wonder if i even get invited with 200 ilvl

[lusty grotto]

just make your own group yogi

[tribal wharf]

i made sure to pick only the best talents

[errant wagon]

do we have a spell reflect list for this season coming up? 😄

[lusty grotto]

sense is working on it but there's one in maxroll

[lament osprey]

Nimchip I pray for the blizzard devs to give execute back after this week

[lusty grotto]

doesnt look like it'll happen

buffing phalanx was good though

[lament osprey]

I shall come back later if I’m doing something wrong. 😑

[lusty grotto]

[buoyant sparrow]

Just leveling my warrior now. Are we slower? Or is it just because I’m leveling as Prot / low haste?

[warm plinth]

We are slower, both because we have less haste (lower gear levels relatively), and because Anger Management's effect requires more rage now.

[buoyant sparrow]

Awe. I missed the crazy button pressing 🙁

[lusty grotto]

also leveling makes your stats have less value

which is normal on an expansion release

youll need more haste rating to get back to what you had before

[buoyant sparrow]

Ah. So not as bad at 90

[lusty grotto]

make sure you swap to Heavy Repercussions to keep SB up

[lusty grotto]

it doesnt really get better until myth tracks and hero tracks show up

so it can be worse at 90

[buoyant sparrow]

Ah ok

Thanks

[lusty grotto]

and maybe up until s2

[gentle quest]

The crafted weapons have a weird damage skew, any reason to choose one over another? Or are they all interchangeable with no difference in performance?

[lusty grotto]

theres no difference

there hasnt been one in like 6 expansions

damage is normalized

it turns into AP

[gentle quest]

Okay sick thank you for the fast reply , I made sure to check pins and search'ed before I asked lol

[hollow hill]

Are we pretty much safe to spend veteran crests at this point? Guides were saying to hold onto them and craft but as I understand it that's not the plan anymore

[undone beacon]

Considering Champ gear is plentiful next week, and M+ is the week after, yeah

Preseason optimization is also a lil silly

[hollow hill]

Lol yea, it's always fun to see how far you can push it but it is a bit silly

[undone beacon]

I've sent all my vet + adv crests, most things are getting disenchanted next week anyways haha

Go crazy

[frank bobcat]

I just wanted to have a funny abbreviation for colossus prot

I will not cease until Sus Prot is the communally accepted term

[undone beacon]

You will die on that hill my friend

[lusty grotto]

yeah i dont see it

but its not as bad as cat saying demo for demolish

[frank bobcat]

As a true warrior shall

[undone beacon]

My crusade in the druid discord was referring to apex talents as OATs instead of WG or WiGu or anything else

[lusty grotto]

you getting ready for HoF eh

mines only 15

and that was just doing the alt delves

[sharp gale]

i started at 13

[signal wadi]

shield or wep first craft?

[sour dragon]

Hey, playing all the tanks right now. Just getting used to prot rotation, isn’t it optimal to macro shield block to revenge and slam since SB and IP should always be up anyway.

[undone beacon]

No

Do not macro SB to anything

Also SB and Revenge are both spenders

[lusty grotto]

read the pins

[sour dragon]

Yea, but I mean SB always comes first, and it has a cooldown unlike Revenge. Just wondering if there is a reason not to?

[mighty valley]

Sometimes your SB duration will be plenty healthy and you need to save that rage to spend on e.g. Revenge to fill a GCD

You just need to be conscious of all rage spending

[lusty grotto]

you will burn a lot of rage in one button and being rage starved is bad bad bad

[undone beacon]

You dont just slam SB whenever its up, Sometimes you just want to revenge. Fucks with your rage economy, which is the most important part of playing Pwarr

[mighty valley]

while we're here, IP is also not an uptime buff haha

[lusty grotto]

yeah managing rage is core to warrior, but especially important to prot due to AM (anger management) and VO (violent outburst)

[sour dragon]

I see, thanks

[sour dragon]

Ah, I saw a post saying keep it up >80 at all times?

[lusty grotto]

no

[sour dragon]

50% dr seems important?

[undone beacon]

Nope

[lusty grotto]

ahem

here we go

we ready for the wall of text?

[undone beacon]

I'll let Nim do this one

[mighty valley]

oh god you've triggered the nim wall

[undone beacon]

Get your copypasta Nim

[sour dragon]

😆

[lusty grotto]

damn it

almost gave away my secrets

[sharp gale]

[mighty valley]

tldr: press it when your rage is over 70 and you'll be fine in most situations

but it is worth reading to understand the reasoning

[warm plinth]

HELLO YES I WAS SUMMONED?

[lusty grotto]

mayhaps

[mighty valley]

god trying to keep IP over 80% cap at all times would absolutely kill you

[sour dragon]

Wow, thank god we dont have to track it lmao. I was having a stroke checking my buffs

[mighty valley]

it's good in high end content to be able to glance at it in specific situations

but yeah, don't hurt your brain trying to keep it up together with sb

[lusty grotto]

tl;dr as a prot warrior you want to keep your rage bouncing between 30 rage and 70 rage at all times

70+ rage you IP

30 to 70 is rage used on revenge if you need to proc a shield slam and if thunderclap is down

30 rage for emergency shield block use

[tribal wharf]

screw the dungeon, i can just go gathering instead

[sour dragon]

Thanks! great info all

Also for apex phalanx, is it optimal in aoe to thunderclap first then shield slam?

[manic mural]

Who wrote that wall of text originally?

[sharp gale]

grok

[solid sun]

Nim

The rat

[lusty grotto]

you can click on it and it'll take you to it

but yeah it was me

[mighty valley]

I don't think maximizing phalanx is worth disrupting the rotation for but that's a gut feeling and not backed up by science tbh

[manic mural]

I see

[sour dragon]

Cool, prot is much simpler rotation wise than I thought then. That’s a good thing haha

[undone beacon]

Yeah Prot is pretty simple and very sturdy. A solid tank

Def a top 6 contender

[mighty valley]

🤞

[solid sun]

Easily top 5

[sour dragon]

One of the tanks of all time fosho

[solid sun]

Heck a bdk

[lusty grotto]

i swear to christ if Astalor ends up being Sire Denathrius

[undone beacon]

I dont think he is Sire Denathrius but I can see a link back to Revendreth or Denathrius

They already set up a light vs revendreth thing in SL

But Astalor has been around for a while

[lusty grotto]

really

interesting

oh shit

i had forgotten all about him

[undone beacon]

Yeah, the whole Ember Ward part of Revendreth that was all fucked up was because the Light directly attacked Revendreth, and in Sanguine Depth we rescue the naa'ru Zi'rali

And Astalor (iirc) was like best buddies and a close advisor to Kael'thas

[lusty grotto]

i remember that, i just forgot about astalor

[undone beacon]

He was a big fan of sucking the light juice out of Muu'ru or whichever naa'ru they chained up in the basement

[solid sun]

nerd dragons

[lusty grotto]

yeah im going over the wow wiki cause i had forgotten all about this guy

[mighty valley]

i love that everyone's just cool with astalor being around

just got a weird freak dungeon where he's doing experiments with Anguish

[autumn roost]

tf do you mean prison

[mighty valley]

and everyone's like "yeah man keep doing your thing"

[solid sun]

he's so pompous

do you think he's covering up some past trauma

[undone beacon]

I mean that’s our boy Astalor everyone knows he’s a freak but he helped create the blood knights so like

[solid sun]

do we consider that a good thing or

[lusty grotto]

no kink shaming in silvermoon

[undone beacon]

Yes

[solid sun]

but they're paladins

aren't we like mortal enemies

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

Heres a meme I made in like 2 mins

[solid sun]

Did you draw the speech bubbles in paint?

I think, if you did, it really reveals some stellar mouse work

You must be aces at fps games

[craggy harness]

Astalor is sasuke

[undone beacon]

No it’s from a meme from a few years back

[craggy harness]

we will power of friendship him if he's sire

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-gif-19427546

[solid sun]

Oh

Well I tried giving you some flowers

You're so honest you denied them

Now you get new flowers for honesty

[errant wagon]

Has there been any sims done to know if going into raid tomorrow which hero tree comes out on top with the upcoming buffs?

I haven't been paying close attention to here

[lusty grotto]

thane is ahead by a tiny bit

[errant wagon]

🫡

is gaze trinket still looking lke mega bis even with the nerf from today?

[lusty grotto]

you can sim it

once they update simc

[undone beacon]

Nim didn’t even acknowledge my meme

Fucked up smh

[lusty grotto]

i seen it

quality non-ai work

[undone beacon]

[drowsy comet]

https://x.com/i/status/2033685433670848709 Gaze nerfed again wth

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead)

Blizzard has announced last-minute trinket tuning, nerfing the Gaze of the Alnseer trinket again.

#Midnight #Warcraft

https://t.co/lFEay3L6ZT

X · Mar 16, 2026, 11:22 PM

[drowsy comet]

How is she in higher levels? Doing finally something good or still a useless bitch?

[sharp gale]

idk i will wait 45 before trying

[drowsy comet]

how tf yall leveling her so fast lol

mine is still at 12

[sharp gale]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/powerlevel-valeera-in-grudge-pit-delve-before-season-1-380802?utm_source=discord-webhook

it is not fast at all

[drowsy comet]

yea i saw it got fixed

But wouldnt higher delves be better for xp?

[drowsy comet]

[ionic fern]

God damn Alnseer nerf.

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

I mean,warranted but dammit.

Now I gotta resim and update guide accordingly.

[drowsy comet]

wth

preparing for high delves i guess

btw have u guys seen the new DLSS 5?

[ionic fern]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-treebeard-gif-18964923

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-drink-sip-blink-the-mandalorian-gif-15693643

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/smelling-flower-shw-boy-pretty-boy-song-joji-enjoying-nature-gif-18803772

[strong forum]

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2033683812261966090

Sabuuchi (CEO of Bans) (@Saboogus)

Nvidia's DLSS 5 is a GAME CHANGER 🔥🔥🔥

vxTwitter / fixvx · Mar 16, 2026, 11:16 PM

[jagged pier]

go back

[lofty glen]

are the prot buffs good?

[lofty warren]

12% damage. some would say that is good

but they moved the 5% dr to 4/4 apex instead of 1/4 so its harder to only do 1/4

[lofty glen]

yes but does this make us better than other tanks?

[chrome falcon]

ok i haven't been in here since launch

is anyone else finding this spec just miserably boring

[pallid quiver]

I don't think it's much worse than most other things in the game at the moment but, uh,

I haven't even hit 90 yet because I just keep playing other games, so

(Not that I really intended on playing this season much until after mid-April; have other things to hit first)

[jagged pier]

welcome to the new slowed down version of prot

[chrome falcon]

it's just strictly less fun than last tier i think, like yeah our tier set was pretty cringe rng but at least i had to use my brain sometimes

shit not even my brain, but i had to use my hands sometimes

[lament tinsel]

Hello fellas'

Hope u all doin' great

[chrome falcon]

you can't even dump triple shield slam proc you have to weak TCs it's so bedge

[lament tinsel]

I started to learn prot war in midnight, it's been a great experience but i still have some issues

[chrome falcon]

the wowhead guide says that we play tough as nails over massacre for raid? holy fuck it's so over executebros

[jagged pier]

yep

[lament tinsel]

The main issue i got is about Shield block,

Is it possible to maintain it at 100% right now ?

[jagged pier]

but check icy veins wowhead not the best anymore

[pallid quiver]

Wowhead is also no longer written by Nome, and iirc is kinda a side project or something

[jagged pier]

yes

u use HR

[chrome falcon]

even less haste yippee :DDDDDD

[pallid quiver]

Not shade on the writer, since from what I know Pumps is decent, but just isn't a dedicated PWar player

[narrow jay]

I didnt even know going 1/4 In apex was something we were doing lol

[jagged pier]

its not

[chrome falcon]

Pumps is very good but i've never seen him on anything other than druid or

[pallid quiver]

There was just a large shake up on both the structure for guides and in writers coming up on Midnight

personally, i think the icy veins stuff as a whole is generally better than most of the wowhead guide setups atm just aesthetically

[lament tinsel]

What do u mean by HR ? Sorry i'm a beginner on that manner ^^

[pallid quiver]

Talent by the name of Heavy Repercussions

It's on a choice node with Into the Fray

It gives a ton of extra Shield Block duration at the cost of not really giving you extra damage like the haste from ItF gives

[lament tinsel]

Oh i get it

[narrow jay]

Makes your shield slam give more rage too

[pallid quiver]

If you don't have enough haste baseline to maintain Shield Block enough for your needs, you use Heavy Repercussions to shore up the uptime; it's more important that you can not die and pull bigger than optimize damage

[lament tinsel]

I guess since we don't have enough haste this early in the expansion it's better to do this

Ok ! Seems clear enough

[pallid quiver]

If you ever gear out of haste to get ilvl in future patches, as well, it's good to keep in mind.

or you just grab itf anyway and say healer issue

[lament tinsel]

ahaha

thanks a lot ^^

[pallid quiver]

if everything dies before you have a gap in SB uptime, it's no problem, ez

[chrome falcon]

i think the recommended raid build is maybe the most boring collection of talents i've ever seen fuck you blizz

why are they incapable of balancing the execute talents properly

[jagged pier]

well they nuked execute

and buffed other spells

[chrome falcon]

yeah that's what i mean

[jagged pier]

and made ToN completely overpowered

[chrome falcon]

the only decision we can actually make in our tree

is whether to go execute talents or not

but it's not even a choice because they're so dogshit LMAO

[jagged pier]

nah your choice is now

4/4 apex or 1/4 + LS + indom + BSV

u can run BSV with 4/4 too

if u like

[chrome falcon]

you can just -deep wounds +BSV from the recommended build right

[jagged pier]

u drop the focus rev one in m+

but the raid build is kinda set

if u want to press execute at all u have to basically take deep wounds to make it worth while

[chrome falcon]

i guess it's just insane to me that tough as nails is more dps than massacre

in raid

like how is that real

[jagged pier]

because execute hits for nothing

[chrome falcon]

i know i just can't believe blizz lets it be that bad

[dusky canopy]

I had to do like 20 preys or something like that at the time 😂

[pallid quiver]

I can; I'm pretty sure Blizz just hates Execute's entire existence and having to consider it at all, just based on how they talk about the button in the blue posts over the years. I think there was even a time when they basically said it wasn't a high rage cost ability meant to do high damage or something like that

Think that one was when they hit the Colo talents and made it no longer stack Demo?

[strong forum]

reason #17845

[chrome falcon]

I was hoping I could at least play guardian and have some options in my talent tree/hero talent selection but now I can’t even do that

And my co-tank already yoinked playing brew

It’s so over

[jagged pier]

just take a break

ez fix

[solid sun]

Yeah it sounds like you just shouldn’t play right now lol

I also think execute is in a weird spot rn. Our spec tree is pretty tight and blizzard wants their apex talents to be used. If execute is too good you might skip apex points

[warm plinth]

Idk why they didn't just make the new points apex points.

[solid sun]

Same

[tribal wharf]

RIP tablet

i cant be 100% sure but i think it totally die

not accepting ressurection (charge from wall)

and the screen all fucked up from time to time

[warm plinth]

Rip

[tribal wharf]

it had a good run, 5 years

might repair it upon getting replacement

use it for some bullshit like camera

[harsh trellis]

So, play prot war?

[tribal wharf]

ya the 4/4 apex was dealing 150% dmg when it was supposed to be doing 100% for bear lol

so it got smacked

[chrome falcon]

game is still fun even if the class is boring and awful + hard to take a break when raidlead

[harsh trellis]

Everything just slowed down

I preferred the spammy gameplay over what we have now. lol

but I am still doin prot war and guardian druid

[tribal wharf]

im just pissed off that day 1 they add "farm for 120 days in a row,, 4 months EVERYDAY," to be able to have the best profession gear

could have waited 12.0.5 or 12.1

i still only did eversong and half of ZA for side quests

not touched a single quest in harandar or void place tbh, like a few hand ins, thats it

so i cant even do the blacksmithing event nim was CLICK IT TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS cuz ur asking it

sojourner burns me out

and there was a bunch of world quests on alts that i have to do parts of story line or some quests, and its like, i just want to run the wq and claim the gear

im gettin annoyed slowly

[daring marlin]

I think you're right. They even yeeted HoW.

[tribal wharf]

all i want to do is log into the game and press buttons and do things immediately

example, right now, i would want to play dk, he has ilvl 80 gear

so im stuck doing solo content

[daring marlin]

dawg it'd take you no time at all to be 220+

[tribal wharf]

yes for sure, but say i want to do the pvp area quests in void place

i have to do some kind of quest to see the monster

same with i had same exact issue on the eversong adventurers 220 box on paladin

so i took a 30 minute detour to do that

[solid sun]

I’m not understanding this rant

Are you upset that you need to do certain things to boost your ilvl up?

[tribal wharf]

that i have to do them, and then it makes me do a story mode quest just to be able to access doing that quest

[drowsy comet]

Follow The Arrow is actually such a great leveling addon. While yes the route might be known already, but overall its a really good alternative to things like Zygor or RestedXP

[tribal wharf]

i just dont want to have to jump through a bunch of hoops, lol

[dusky canopy]

@toxic pewter what spec should I que solo shuffle to 1600?

[runic bolt]

did we get last embelish tunings yet?

[toxic pewter]

In my opinion fury is stronger right now

[dusky canopy]

Than Prot!?

[toxic pewter]

But things can change today after tuning

Oh I don’t really play prot in PvP but you can def queue prot and reach 1600

It’s def possible for sure

[dusky canopy]

Maybe fury is the play just brain off Zug gg go next

[toxic pewter]

Yeah like I can’t deny

I usually play arms in PvP

But fury is actually just like wild right now with its apex

And just go in and you’re unrelenting

[chrome cipher]

Don't prot, you'll have more fun as Fury, or arms. Fury is more steady damage, Arms is more burst. Go Fury its looking better than arms unfortunately.

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto will the rng gods bless me with tier from lfr today so i can have 4pc next week while I’m off work for the key farm?

[chrome cipher]

Plus all tanks were nerfed for pvp

[toxic pewter]

Yah tanks took heavy nerf today

[dusky canopy]

Tyty probably just send fury

[chrome cipher]

mhm

I wish with how bad Arms is atm even with buffs they would just go ham on it for pvp to at least give every spec an outlet Id be okay with that.

[toxic pewter]

Arms getting 15% buff today and it’s gonna be really good

[chrome cipher]

Yeah its far more playable but its not as good as fury which the community looks at when pick and choosing.

Thankfully im prot lol

[toxic pewter]

Yeah fury seems stronger to me at least

So far

[dusky canopy]

Should have been 30% from the start

They just cluegi

[chrome cipher]

Yeah

I called for a 45% and people thought I was crazy

Take it up and bring it down slowy > start in hell to crawl out of hell into hell.

[dusky canopy]

Nerf cleave, buff ms/exe by X amount, and then aura buff up to 100-105k like everyone else

[toxic gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-face-yeah-ok-then-sure-gif-19576862

[toxic pewter]

Lol

[chrome cipher]

I don't want homogynized specs, but the numbers should be closer.

[loud rune]

Good morning

[toxic gyro]

Arms sims almost as good as brewmaster after those amazing buffs

[chrome cipher]

Whoa no way!?

[toxic gyro]

I think early sims for arms were like 88k? Top specs are 120

But who knows, we’ll see soon enough.

[tribal wharf]

that spell breaker shelter kinght commanders palisade crafted shield might be like ultra giga dead

cuz the effect doesnt look good on paper

and it shares appearance with the other one

one of them will be anyways

[toxic pewter]

What’s it do

[tribal wharf]

same armor block and secondary values

249

[toxic pewter]

interesting

[tribal wharf]

if it goes on cooldown for 45s or a minute or so its probably really bad

[toxic pewter]

those amounts def seem kinda low

[toxic gyro]

1.2k absorb shield Kinda sad how weak embellishments are.

[toxic pewter]

yeah kinda sad lol

793 damage lol

wtf

[tribal wharf]

add another zero to it's dmg and shield and make the cd 10-20 seconds max and then its good lol

[drowsy comet]

kinda sad how this made it to the final version of the game lol

[toxic pewter]

ya lol

[tribal wharf]

blizzard still have time to buff it

NOW IS THE TIME

[maiden forge]

maybe it has a .5 sec cd?

[toxic gyro]

Maybe someone just missed a 0 like said above

[tribal wharf]

that and havent we already seen 10 billion trinkets and effects that are "boom shield"

[drowsy comet]

how THE FUCK is it possible that I get slain by the same FUCKING ROGUE 4 times back to back, I thought I somehow got rid of him, why cant I just level in peace with warmode on

[tribal wharf]

its like the monster that teleports behind you every 4 seconds while you are doing a quest, and hes an elite, so hes supposed to be scary cuz you dont know what hes doing

but its just annoying to fight the quest monster in reality, dies in rotation or two

[drowsy comet]

wouldnt be the first time, math isnt their strength, besides MTX

[daring marlin]

nothing new

[tribal wharf]

and theres about 50 quest all with the same friggin guy

[toxic gyro]

Random shields don’t achieve much anyway, unless they proc all the time and sum up to crazy numbers at the end the dungeon.

[daring marlin]

shields that come with embellishments are always shit

[toxic gyro]

Straight facts lol

[drowsy comet]

this piece of shit

[tribal wharf]

i seem to recall this one was okay

[daring marlin]

They had to buff it and it was still bad

especially compared to the other choices

[tribal wharf]

i just remember there was alot of talks about it back in those days

[daring marlin]

yeah, a lot of "don't craft this piece of shit"

[tribal wharf]

im gunna craft it and you cant stop me

cuz i need the mog

[toxic pewter]

lol

[daring marlin]

live your best life brother

[oak ivy]

"should the shield be breached before it expires" my brother in christ an open world non elite mob hits for more than 1.2k.

[tribal wharf]

i believe at some point now blizzard has said "transmog is the real end game"

so, that makes my desire to collect old transmogs correct

but often if i go to solo old raid i will get lost or soft locked on some boss

[upbeat plover]

People catching my shenanigans fast round here

[drowsy comet]

what are those embelishments I keep hearing about?

[toxic pewter]

every embelishment kinda sucks ass

[tribal wharf]

they are little lies if you will

[coarse bay]

I kinda suck ass

[tribal wharf]

badumtis

fake enchants if you will

[drowsy comet]

stop sucking ass

[toxic pewter]

Heck no u don’t

[coarse bay]

I do i do

[tribal wharf]

an embellishment wants to be a trinket

but its 1/2 or 1/3rd of a trinket power at best

[coarse bay]

Embellishments are gimmicks to force more engagement with professions

And theyre fine, kinda dont care about them, could be more interesting i guess

But nothing’s really interesting anymore, trinkets have no flavor either

[drowsy comet]

wanted to say suck something else, but that would be weird

[coarse bay]

[bronze wraith]

Is execute still bugged?

[coarse bay]

Yes

Or i at least havent heard otherwise

[bronze wraith]

Is it worth having execute while it is bugged?

[coarse bay]

Well we’ll have it, just wont use it except thane st

[solid sun]

Who said execute was bugged?

[toxic pewter]

it all started in a youtube video by sha

he say it bugged in the video andd now everyone is saying that

[toxic gyro]

It doesn’t do dmg, must be bugged, duh

[solid sun]

Didn’t Skyhold say there was no evidence it was bugged and is just tuned low

[jagged pier]

does he state whats bugged about it?

[bronze wraith]

The tool tip has execute doing less damage than revenge. It was mentioned being a bug so I thought it made sense

[jagged pier]

thats not a bug

thats tuning

[unreal yarrow]

The bug is in the dev team

[toxic pewter]

yeah its not bugged

[jagged pier]

sounds just like when ppl were saying u need to cancelaura TB because the tooltip says it does less damagethan TC, when its a different type of damage so its not reduced by things like armour and give lightenin strikes etc

so that was also dumb

[toxic pewter]

wat in the world who is cancelauraing tb

[bronze wraith]

I think it is easy to confuse yhe two if something is that insanely undertundd

[jagged pier]

the streamers on beta

[solid sun]

What is happening around us APB

The sky is falling

[drowsy comet]

you get older

[toxic pewter]

yeah no clue

i feel more lost everyday

what happened to just playing the game and pressing shit that lights up

[solid sun]

It’s a new psyop

[toxic pewter]

yes

[solid sun]

Pwar isn’t tuned low, it’s bugged

Fix the bugs don’t buff them

[toxic pewter]

ppsyop propaganda

[coarse bay]

Fix bugs

Pls

[toxic pewter]

lol thats what people have resorted to

[solid sun]

I am once again asking for the bugs to be fixed

[toxic pewter]

XD

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-sanders-bernie-sanders-no-bernie2020-gif-4718343496119752884

[solid sun]

I love that Sense just randomly peeps prot discord and hits me with a rhino

It’s definitely one of my favorite things

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-with-a-ball-orphaned-by-poachers-a-baby-rhino-makes-a-new-friend-world-rhino-day-playing-having-fun-gif-25267716

[solid sun]

Oh hey cam we need to talk

You don’t suck mkay

[coarse bay]

[solid sun]

You’re very good very powerful

[coarse bay]

Very bad very weak

I spent all my gold and im poor too

Add it to the list

Are embellishments cheap

I forgot to buy one

[solid sun]

What did you spend your gold on

[coarse bay]

I leveled some professions and prepped for the season

Consumables and whatnot

[solid sun]

It would have been so funny if you said you lost it in a death roll

[toxic pewter]

gold rank ones not the cheapest

can be like upwards of 10k

[coarse bay]

Imagine

[coarse bay]

Rip

[lofty warren]

2000 m+ score is what level in every dungeon?

[coarse bay]

6-7

[toxic pewter]

HE SAID IT LOL

HE SAID THE THING

[coarse bay]

[tepid sparrow]

get him

[coarse bay]

It do be the true though

[lofty warren]

67 seems really low is that true

[coarse bay]

Ues

Yes

Its true

[tepid sparrow]

https://mrmythical.com/rating-calculator?runs=ARAK071 this seems old as hell but it might still math

[cerulean tusk]

just do your weekly keys, you will get your score goals

[narrow prawn]

i can't wait to get shittalked by multiple people in M+, always a nice experience

[coarse bay]

Why would you be shit talked

[lofty warren]

According tjay you need all 7s except for 2. A +7 is going to be pretty easy to do unless they massively rebalanced like they did s1 tww. They didnt do that right?

[coarse bay]

They arent out, so we dont know. Unlikely

[toxic pewter]

7s will be pretty damn easy

honestly just do all 10s first week

[solid sun]

Anything with cam in it will be easy

[narrow prawn]

"pull more for god sake"
"why are you pulling this group"

[toxic pewter]

true cam is gamer

[narrow prawn]

and stuff like that

[toxic pewter]

just ignore them

[narrow prawn]

i learned my lesson last season lmfao

[cerulean tusk]

For the casuals, this might be hard dont be such an elitist

This is a seasonal goal for quite many

[toxic pewter]

lol

[lofty warren]

The only thing is that if there is some dungeon is a mega giant pain in the ass bc its bugged or overtuned.. then doing a +7 is not worth bc they gonna fix

[toxic pewter]

am i an elitist

never actually thought that before

[narrow prawn]

i think i can reach 7-10s, starting with ilvl 243 is not so bad

[daring marlin]

It was 70f out the other day and today it's 2f

comedy

[toxic pewter]

dang that cold af

[narrow prawn]

my only concern is pit of saron

i hate this dungeon

so much

and maisara caverns too

[lofty warren]

Heresy

[solid sun]

Well

One thing you can do

[toxic pewter]

pit of saron may be my fav one in the set this season

[solid sun]

Is disable your chat window

[daring marlin]

Good thing you have a whole week to bump that ilvl up!

[solid sun]

Get rid of it

[lofty warren]

I havent done the reworked version did they mess it up or is it still good like it was?

[solid sun]

Pit of Saruman is the one with the ice giant right

[tepid sparrow]

yeah

and tyr anus

[lofty warren]

And there's the professor with his slave

[toxic pewter]

[solid sun]

I’m not worried about it. Anything I don’t know APB and cam and pash and Nimchip and cat will teach me

[tepid sparrow]

i am concerned that I did not study routes but I am sure the best ones bubble up

[toxic pewter]

[dusky canopy]

Fuck me too

[solid sun]

Yeah and brew

Brew gonna teach me how to dps as a warrior

[undone beacon]

[undone beacon]

Routes are for nerds we hold W in this house

[coarse bay]

Very very very few people did, dont stress it

[solid sun]

Yeah just hold W

Unironically

[dusky canopy]

I wasn’t in the original list Goodluck buddy

[toxic pewter]

Listen just ignore the RouteLords dude

Just do your route

the followers will follow

[solid sun]

That’s because you got a special mention earlier brew

[lofty warren]

How do you get restored dwelve keys in midnight

[coarse bay]

Apparently week 1 10s will be 200k cut

[solid sun]

What does that mean

[coarse bay]

For boosting

[undone beacon]

Carries I presume

[toxic pewter]

jesus

[undone beacon]

Buying a week one 10 sounds... miserable

[lofty warren]

Which discord do you use? I've been meaning to find one

[toxic pewter]

lolwtf

[undone beacon]

bruh

[solid sun]

Who can do a four person +10 week 1

And why would you buy that

[coarse bay]

Title teams

[dusky canopy]

I can

[coarse bay]

To fund consumables for pushing

[dusky canopy]

They’re usually one helmet in the group

4 man is normal

[undone beacon]

I'm sure a group of guildies and I could carry a 10 next week no issue

Basically already do depending on who is with us

[coarse bay]

I dont

[lofty warren]

Pm me the discord you use to get cuts pls

[coarse bay]

I know people who will, i wont

[dusky canopy]

Real lmao

[solid sun]

Y’all are so powerful

[coarse bay]

Can i be the helmet

I have 6 characters

[solid sun]

How did it become known as being the helmet

[coarse bay]

Idk

[toxic pewter]

lol

[daring marlin]

WOOO RET BUFFS

[tepid sparrow]

again??

[coarse bay]

Ret stronk

[toxic pewter]

who here getting 1600 in pvp this rank for tier charge

[solid sun]

How many times have I unknowingly been the helmet…

[toxic pewter]

do it elite set looks sick

[undone beacon]

Didnt ret just get their buffs slightly nerfed?

[undone beacon]

🤮

[toxic pewter]

yah ashen verdict 30% down to 15% iirc

[tepid sparrow]

yeah, 110 to 108 on that spreadsaheet

[toxic pewter]

lol

[solid sun]

Well

Ret keeps getting changes

But pwar bugs can’t be fixed???

I’ll never let them get away with this

[coarse bay]

Dont

They shouldnt get away with it

[toxic pewter]

we gotta shut it all down

[coarse bay]

I think my mage is bugged too tbh

[solid sun]

Fuck

[toxic pewter]

DISCORD STRIKE

[solid sun]

Fix prot warrior and wizard bugs

Discord strike!!!

[toxic pewter]

ill never forget that ret strike

was a moment in time

unforgettable

[solid sun]

It really did stop my entire world

[toxic pewter]

that wall of text paragraph explaining it all

XD

[solid sun]

I stopped everything that was going on to watch it

[coarse bay]

Did u stop the pipe laying?

[tepid sparrow]

oh right the pipe how'd the pipe go

[solid sun]

I did I had a pipe halfway in the trench and halfway out

Watching the rets strike

And everyone make fun of them

[tepid sparrow]

can't really unring that bell either

[coarse bay]

Cant unpipe the pipe

[solid sun]

I had some friends ask me to help them out yesterday so I couldn’t continue leveling my warrior. For the first time ever I hit raid launch without my warrior being max level

https://tenor.com/view/washing-machine-washer-washing-clothes-waschmaschine-spannend-gif-26112565

[tepid sparrow]

new slayer rotation

[coarse bay]

Wait were there new tuning thingies

Frick

Why

[solid sun]

I don’t see a wowhead post

At least not in the Guilds wowhead channel

[coarse bay]

Oh what are people talking about then

Maybe people still bringing up the changes before

[daring marlin]

I think the OP was edited?

[coarse bay]

Oh maybe

[coarse bay]

Ill have to look before raid

Too much to do

[daring marlin]

Ret was slightly tuned down but idgaf

big ST buffs

Legs are cookin' today

[tepid sparrow]

i had a surgery but i finished like 2 weeks ago with a pr on bench and skipped leg day

no lifting for a month

[solid sun]

Hey @daring marlin I saw something that made me think of you

[daring marlin]

What was your pr?

[tepid sparrow]

305

[daring marlin]

Love celebrating wins

hell yeah

[solid sun]

Someone put these Pokémon figures in their bathroom but they were like powerlifter versions. Since you like anime and lifting

[daring marlin]

LMFAO

[solid sun]

Def need a powerlifting charmander bathroom buddy

[dusky canopy]

I cannot fucking believe they buffed the bottom specs more and just said fuck arms??? Hello

[daring marlin]

I managed 315 for 10 strict reps yesterday. That was pretty sick.

[tepid sparrow]

weigh 175 so it felt good but that's probably my max for rest of life

you animal

[daring marlin]

gotta chase 315 next big dog!

[warm plinth]

That's an insane amount of weight to me lol. I have no idea of my bench press capabilities but I imagine it's like 100 lmao

[daring marlin]

I have a buddy the same weight as you doing the same. I go super early now so I don't see him much anymore.

[tepid sparrow]

too risky nowadays. hit the big 40 and just trying to stay healthy

[solid sun]

Hey man

Those wrestlers do their thing into their 50s

You got this

[daring marlin]

Ahhhh I'm on my way there too. 36. 😂

[tepid sparrow]

least we have good habits now

[daring marlin]

Bunch of oldheads in here.

💯

[solid sun]

Yeah good habits

I just went to whataburger and I chose not to eat the entire breakfast bowl

[warm plinth]

Did you really

[toxic pewter]

mmmm whataburger breakfast

[solid sun]

I really did

[jagged pier]

[toxic pewter]

that is me

irl

[jagged pier]

iam too

i would be bigger if i could whataburger for breakfast

[solid sun]

Jakey are you doing good

[jagged pier]

[tepid sparrow]

when i lived in chicago there was a bbq place that had brisket and eggs that was open at 7:00am so I could grab that and walk to the office

[solid sun]

Sounds awesome

[toxic pewter]

love brisket

[tepid sparrow]

it was a real good deal because it wasn't like lunch prices

[toxic pewter]

want some breakfast tacos now

and kolaches

[daring marlin]

That sounds incredible lol

[lime shale]

allo greetings, im relativly new to wow and am getting ready for mythic + and so on. some things are understandable just by browsing through wowhead and looking at things but i dont quiet understand why.

for prot warrios the stat prio is
str > haste > crit > versa > mastery

but why is mastery so low and crit so high. i mean understandably that crit is good for damage and heals too but the crit parry chance doesnt seam to be so good of value by looking at it in defensive prio compared to mastery who makes our blocks better?

[mighty valley]

first off, our stats are all relatively close together, so ilvl increases are almost always worth taking regardless of stat spread

[lime shale]

yea thats what my friends also sayed, always go for ilvl but non of them play warrior so needed to find a place to ask deeper questiosn xD

[mighty valley]

part of what mastery does is increase block chance, which is literally worthless when we have shield block up all the time. so then you're just comparing crit fully negating an attack vs. crit block reducing some damage from an attack

it's not really a big deal though, and mastery got better this season now that we can take Tough As Nails

[jagged pier]

well its also all our mit and normal shield block takes u close to damage cap already

so making it just block more damage to the damage cap doesnt do as much DR as just full up stopping attacks through parry

[daring marlin]

I miss BoM

[lime shale]

ohhh that makes a lot of sense then

[daring marlin]

[narrow prawn]

they nerfed gaze of the alnseer again

damn

[lime shale]

is tough as nails something i want for mythic +?

[jagged pier]

yes

[mighty valley]

good damage for one point

[lime shale]

the alst time i checked wow head it was like this, the only thing i changed was on the right side that shield wall gives more health

[jagged pier]

id follow the icy veions builds

[lime shale]

[jagged pier]

but yer LS outside of very high keys has no place

and your other flex point is bloodsurge

[pastel summit]

Ye, it's quite nice.

[toxic pewter]

some people run crit mastery build even its more rare but some people like it

may not be the 'best' but some people enjoy slower more heavy hitting style

[lime shale]

could you show me how your talent trees look like? :3

[toxic pewter]

I just run icy veins colossus build cuz I think its more fun

[lime shale]

i kinda got the impression that colossal is not so good for m+?

cause of the lacking aoe stuff

[jagged pier]

its fine

technically its more damage

[mighty valley]

it's more annoying to gather with but the two are overall close

[jagged pier]

but dps have to hold their damage

[lime shale]

hmmmm yea okey

https://tenor.com/view/cat-write-scribble-sketch-draw-gif-17181052902092737226

[toxic pewter]

prob best to stick with thane at the start yah

but one day you may want to try colossus just for fun and see how you like it

[pastel summit]

Not having juice on the pull don't feel great.

[lime shale]

mhm, what else would you say on the prot warrior tree, i could remove for tough as nails?

cause i do kinda love "last stand"

for the panic button heal effect of it

[jagged pier]

thats not how it works

its tied to SW

u use it before damage

u dont use it as a heal

[daring marlin]

member bolster

[jagged pier]

u have a heal

IV

is 5% less of a heal than LS

[toxic pewter]

if you really, really want last stand I guess drop bloodsurge ?

[jagged pier]

and on a 25 second cd

[pastel summit]

Ideally you're not reactively panic walling.

[lime shale]

yea nah u do be right

[undone beacon]

Yeah Shield Wall should not be used as a panic button. Prot is a proactive tank, not a reactive one

[pastel summit]

So playing with that could lead to some scuffed habits.

[lime shale]

that is very fair 😄

alrighty, yea i have been using shield wall since midnight basicly prepull to get into them. wich felt nice. i think now that you say it it does make senes, the 30% bonus health probably wasnt to much impact until i start generating my other stuff

but sometimes mid pull when damage was low it was nice to have a second one up to heal me a little bit but normally i guess it shouldnt come to that right?

[jagged pier]

well thats what impending victory is for

[tepid sparrow]

piggybacking on this but I know that like there's some interaction between leaping charge and taunt or whatever for traversing and grabbing threat. can anyone put that into words

[jagged pier]

there are cases in very long pulls with lots of rot in very high keys it can be used, but thats for the top .1%

[jagged pier]

leap resets the cooldown of taunt

[lime shale]

mhm nah that makes very much sence what you guys are saying 🙏 thanky very much for the tips. i shall put them to good uses next week on reset

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-10804346947536782797

[buoyant sparrow]

Question: how bad is playing Col over MT?

[jagged pier]

not really

you just play differently

and your group has to play differently around u

[toxic pewter]

I do not agree with the premise of your question

[buoyant sparrow]

lol. Sorry. Was just saying if I play COL am I hurting my group. I just really like it over MT

[undone beacon]

No you're not

[toxic pewter]

Play what you find most fun

[tribal wharf]

if your actions arent leading to the group getting killed fuck em

[dusky canopy]

Nah I’d colossus all day if you prefer it

[lofty warren]

I dislike col bc it has a manditatory cast

[tribal wharf]

dps starts to matter more when you are getting to, if the vualt is 10s, you are doing 15s

then its time to minmax

with survival vs dps

[rugged mural]

Is there an M+ spell reflect sheet again?

[toxic pewter]

yah the demolish channel has always been a bit controversial

[jagged pier]

ye its on maxroll

[rugged mural]

Maxroll?

[jagged pier]

yer wolfdisco has done one

[undone beacon]

https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide

[daring marlin]

Why would 10% DR while still being able to block be controversial

[jagged pier]

so its on maxroll as they are affiliated with echo

[daring marlin]

🤔

[undone beacon]

Melee hate standing still

[toxic pewter]

I mean I am inclined to agree personally, but some people really dislike it

[tribal wharf]

generally, GENERALLY, spell reflect works best on (frost/fire/shadow bolt), single target typically magic or curse debuffs (DEPENDS)

[toxic pewter]

i will say demolish really does block all displacement effects now, in the past it was sort of hit and miss

[tribal wharf]

and does NOT work on explosive fire nova

for the actual reflect portion, however you may wish to activate it for spell reflects DR

few dr attached to it in talent

[daring marlin]

ADADADADADADADADADADADADAD

[tribal wharf]

before pings in keys we had ADADADADADAD

[toxic pewter]

lolwtf

[tribal wharf]

well if nothings happening to you, nothing needs change, boss position etc

you stand still kill boss

shit goin wrong u gettin debuff and boss pointing at u dps

they gunna move make you notice

[maiden hinge]

Jump as you cast col :wesmart:

[toxic pewter]

you can actually leap while demolishing i think it wil lfinish the channel

[daring marlin]

hungry

[undone beacon]

Unrelated to this discussion but I love this shit when looking up guides or builds in any game

[toxic pewter]

lol

[undone beacon]

Just a whole fucking thesis on why not to buy this one upgrade

[toxic pewter]

that is some passion right there

wait it goes on theres a ... at the end LOL

[maiden hinge]

Only to counter the person's whole argument with: 'yeah but its fun to play lol'.

[undone beacon]

I'm trying to get better at this game but the more I learn the more fearful I am

[mighty valley]

"Finally," then continues on for many more sentences

[undone beacon]

Theres so much metagaming

[undone beacon]

My favorite maneuver, dragged straight from corporate HR meetings

[toxic pewter]

that game seems very daunting to me

[undone beacon]

Highkey I spend more time in hard bot matches than vs actual players because I'm not confident yet to not throw a lobby

[maiden hinge]

"and lastly" continues to yap for 20 min straight

[tribal wharf]

wow thats alot of words

[maiden hinge]

Honestly, pick a char you find fun, play normals and vibe. Learning builds doesn't really help if you're not familiar with the game's other fundamentals yet. You think little timmy whispershouting slurs into his mic or mike coming home from his 9-5, zooted out of his mind care? There's no stakes in normals.

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unqtw8w3yG8

captian jean luc picard of uss enterprise

[undone beacon]

Yeah thats fair. I'm just dog at MOBAs and feel kinda bad but at the same time

https://tenor.com/view/warden-warden-deadlock-deadlock-rabbit-rabbit-chewing-gif-11244860252969582965

This is literally me

[maiden hinge]

It's the same with working out or starting to learn an instrument. We all gotta start somewhere. If people flame you in normals, they need to do some self reflection

[undone beacon]

Its part of the learning curve. Same advice we give to new tanks

[tribal wharf]

i had a hard crash out about league of legends like 10 years ago

never again

that game i cant stand it

[shut summit]

deadlock owns

[undone beacon]

I have played 1 (one) game of league in my entire life, was confused and did not have fun, and haven't played it since

Deadlock is fun though

Gun Warden my beloved

[maiden hinge]

Been tanking for 1 xpac now and i still get tank anxiety for doing pug keys kekw

[tribal wharf]

its like going to the bar full of drunks

same stupid shit every time lol

[wicked sage]

If you dont mind aesthetics you could also try out overwatch

[tribal wharf]

never changes with pugs

[wicked sage]

Balance is doubtful at times but the game can be pretty fun

[maiden hinge]

Cause what if im not doing the best route and the dh hopped on Adderall starts writing a thesis about how i should commit long sleep

[undone beacon]

Certified overwatch disliker

[tribal wharf]

keep in mind normal puglogic for wow and you'll be fine

[undone beacon]

Gives me a migraine if I play for more than 10 minutes

[tribal wharf]

IYKYK about pug logic

[wicked sage]

Quite sad but absolutely understandable

[tribal wharf]

i dont even have to explain if you been there enough times

[lofty warren]

I thought only sense spell reflect was legal

[maiden hinge]

Was going to give OW a try, but then they gave the 2b skin to kiruki.

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-recreation-tv-show-ron-swanson-nick-offerman-throwing-away-computer-gif-17541708

[wicked sage]

Yeah out of all characters...

[tribal wharf]

no i had a good time on overwatch lol

[toxic pewter]

wat is 2b

[tribal wharf]

its not for me but its fun when its fun

[maiden hinge]

The type of game you boot up with friends every once in a while to mess around. Kinda like league arams.

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/nier-automata-swagger-android-walking-animation-walk-gif-16557605

this character from Nier Automata

[toxic pewter]

i see

[dusky canopy]

Fun game I completed it

[bronze wraith]

Is mountain thane a lot better than demolisher? I thought it was the other way around initially

[undone beacon]

Thane has the edge on Colossus, but both are playable right now

[tribal wharf]

what i like the most of all is gravity (wipeout and hi-octane[zero ppl from this chat will know that game likely]) and real-ish (gran turismo or forza anything, and especially when you can go like 200++mph

go fast is feels so good

[toxic pewter]

the main issue with colossus right now is snap threat is really much worse

and gathering, etc

[maiden hinge]

I love leaping max range to disruptive shout 3 casters and charging back in 1 picosecond

[tribal wharf]

paladin mining and herbing was the biggest 5 head move i ever did, bubble gathering lol

increas mount speeed

[toxic pewter]

seems good

[red otter]

Gooner Icon

(very good game that aside)

[toxic pewter]

[tribal wharf]

so, today is "season 1" right

but there is no keys till 24th

so season 1 adds what?

just vualt progress? or

[toxic pewter]

today is start of season yes.. 24th brings m+, mythic raid

vault progress starts today

so like ur first vault will be a week from today /tomorrow for EU

[solid sun]

Everytime I open my fridge it’s like vault day

[tribal wharf]

someone mentioned overwatch this is me

oh, i guess its 6 games of orissa, 67 kills

before the meme

never play ow again

[toxic pewter]

overwatch owns

[meager quail]

Mostly disappointment but occasionally full of so much of your favourite stuff that you can’t eat all of it?

[tribal wharf]

i dont like that everything in the game has a relatively low hp bar

yes there is healers, but doesnt stop 1 shots, and healer has to heal you

[sharp gale]

Ingredient fridge

[solid sun]

Never underestimate a Rhino’s ability to eat it all

[spice iron]

When doing the veteran crest crafts, would it be worth it to send one onto the shield for that momentary boost, or is it better to hold off? I'm going for the Let Me Solo Him achievement, and I probably won't go out and collect more sources of gear before I raid on the Thursday

[fallow fern]

I have seen some characters with 37 / 34 Protection talents.. how is this possible?

[undone beacon]

?

[fallow fern]

Or maybe it's just a glitch on raider.io..

[toxic pewter]

spec tree should only have 34 points at lvl 90

[undone beacon]

Sounds like raiderio being buggy yeah

[fallow fern]

When i look on raider.io and then clicked "open in talent calculator" I get this page..

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/mountain-thane/EAOAVVUFEVUWYUqRQBEOVUVFVFVWRVRQV0CEAFVVVVUCAQ

Shows 37/34...?

[undone beacon]

Graphical bug, that build is only using 1/4 apex in reality