protection

[lusty grotto]

what number

you have to be more specific

[tribal wharf]

any of them really,

[lusty grotto]

orange is total knowledge to cap

[tribal wharf]

ah

[lusty grotto]

purple is knowledge you have available to spend

blue is knowledge available to get this week

green is catch up

[tribal wharf]

hmm, dunno on the purple one cuz i check df tww and midnight and spent them all

not for df, cant

[lusty grotto]

right here https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/myus-knowledge-points-tracker

[tribal wharf]

okay, so i did 6 of them just now

[lusty grotto]

spending them all means nothing for purple

[tribal wharf]

might have stumbled on some this week by accident

[lusty grotto]

so?

the addon discards those you got

[meager quail]

The purple 10 is there because you’ve got a kp book you haven’t bought from the renown vendor yet

[lusty grotto]

yup

[tribal wharf]

i cou ld just look them up but im going to have to get a seperate browser to use wowhead and not get annoyed with it

[lusty grotto]

why woudl you look them up

click them

right in the addon

[meager quail]

Just click stuff

[lusty grotto]

just click

[undone beacon]

I think thats what hes saying

[lusty grotto]

and it tells you where to go

[undone beacon]

He found 6 of them now with the addon

if im understanding yogispeak

[lusty grotto]

we're talking about yogi here

[undone beacon]

I'm getting a minor in internet transliteration i got this

[tribal wharf]

well for instance, i dunno what in the hell a beyond the event horizon bs engi is

not a damn clue

[lusty grotto]

CLICK IT

and it tells you

[tribal wharf]

oh, i must be blind

[undone beacon]

I'm just pissy because this one is still buggy and doesnt let you loot it half the time

[tribal wharf]

when you say reknown vendor

these guys

[lusty grotto]

click

the

Beyond

line

that has red text

click it

[tribal wharf]

right i know about that one, im going to get on it

there is 3 wq for adventurer box

[lusty grotto]

youre saying it like it takes you 20 mins to click it

ah yes

[tribal wharf]

im just in the area atm, and these are the reputation vendors i know of

may not have them unlocked due to no quest

[meager quail]

There isn’t a quest for them. You buy them from the vendor for moxie and marl

[lusty grotto]

he meant the other 4, which are unlocked after unlocking the soiree

but they have no KP books anyway

[undone beacon]

Beyond the Event Horizon is voidstorm rep bud

[tribal wharf]

theres something very important you have to remember with me

me stupid

[daring marlin]

lol

[cerulean tusk]

I give this a solid 8.5/10

Tasty, but it was surprisingly a bit too much taste for me palette and breakfast habbits

Tho, I would recommend

[daring marlin]

🤝

[lofty warren]

Need to add protein powder into the oats assuming ur lifting like all good wars shluld be going at least 2x a week

[glad magnet]

Only shit I’m lifting is my cholesterol

[toxic pewter]

Lol

[solid sun]

I’m about to lift this taco up to my mouth

Is fury as easy as pwar is to blast on

[lusty grotto]

yes

just spam clap as thane in dungeons

[solid sun]

I gotta hurry and hit 90 and then gear up this idiot spec up so I can pug with my friends and I cannot let their wizard asses embarrass me

Cam already gonna melt my face off

I can’t let these lesser wizards win

[tribal wharf]

not super viable for me to do blacksmith patrons when they want 10 bars and 3 ores bunch of other stuff lol

engi i had no problem filling those out

[solid sun]

I just saw a video of someone using neuralink to control their wow character

Not even a single button

Zero button assistant

[jagged pier]

Can hands free play thats pog

[solid sun]

https://x.com/checkcanopy/status/2033303966662959462?s=46

Jon L. Noble🇬🇧 (@CheckCanopy)

Sorry about the delay, but as promised here’s a short clip of me on World of Warcraft using only my BCI to control my character. It amazes me every single day. @neuralink are changing lives. @Blizzard_Ent

▶ Play video

X · Mar 15, 2026, 10:06 PM

There ya go

[jagged pier]

Can snack and play

[undone beacon]

RWF requires all raiders to have a neuralink to help enhance performance

[solid sun]

I’m so curious what this looks like mentally

Do you think they think about the controls themselves?

[jagged pier]

Well some mouses and jeyboard are faster through wireless now, so may as well get rid of the neurons to finger delays next

[solid sun]

Like moving forward is w key? Or is moving forward literally thinking about moving forward

[undone beacon]

"kill da boss kill da boss kill da boss"

[lusty grotto]

id hate to be the party pooper but

i refuse to support elon musk

im sure other companies have similar products

but that just seems like an ad

[undone beacon]

I dont want anything installed in my thinkmeat

Simple as

[tribal wharf]

what happens when the NL taunts the boss but your fury

[solid sun]

One of the things I thought of is like

If this is literally something installed in your brain

What happens if a virus attacks your pc

[lusty grotto]

that you have to pay elon musk for

🙂

[solid sun]

Can the computer virus get inside your head

[lusty grotto]

worse, propaganda

[toxic pewter]

yeah prob

[undone beacon]

propaganda is already in my head, it assails us every day in little undetectable ways

[lusty grotto]

but in all seriousness no

[undone beacon]

Tangentially related but Coffeezilla made a great video about deepfakes and its worth a watch

[lusty grotto]

at worst, a "virus" will only change what you interact with

[solid sun]

I actually didn’t know neuralink was a musk thing. It doesn’t surprise me but I’m pretty disconnected from that world.

[lusty grotto]

meaning a person thinks hes moving his mechanical arm or some shit on direction, but it moves to another

i.e. hijacked

viruses cant really fuck with you mentally... for now

neuralink only works with electrical pulses, which is how your nervous system works

there's nothing else

[solid sun]

What if it overheats

And burns your brain

[lusty grotto]

then youre dead

[sharp gale]

Idk much about nervous system, but can it send pain stimuli through electrical pulses ?

[solid sun]

Worst migraine ever

[lusty grotto]

its possible

[solid sun]

Like when you have a wrong thought so musk zaps you

For thinking wrongly

[lusty grotto]

you would have to ask a neurologist

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq5KWLqUewc

[sharp gale]

bc it would make it easy to teach someone how to think subconsciously if you can throw a small pain stimuli each time he thinks bbq on pizza is correct

[solid sun]

“If only Musk would fix world hunger with his money”

zap

Anyways I’m floating this in a direction I didn’t intend

I just saw zero button wow

[tribal wharf]

i dunno if im doing something wrong but i cant see public orders

havent been able to for about a week probably

[lusty grotto]

probably because nobody is putting them in

[undone beacon]

Yeah public orders are quite uncommon for most professions

Inscription prob gets the most

[ivory barn]

Half tempted to put a order for my 2h sword and go craft my shield

[solid sun]

Guild doesn’t have a weapon smith?

[ivory barn]

Me, but I leveled it wrong so I'm having to understand break what I did

[solid sun]

What have you done

[ivory barn]

I don't have a recent photo, have to show you later, but the guy I talked to said I only wasted about 12 points

[lusty grotto]

"the guy i talked to"

https://www.wowhead.com/profession-tree-calc/blacksmithing/BDwAUBD4RSTZCZEeso you didnt do this?

not hard

https://www.wowhead.com/profession-tree-calc/blacksmithing/BDwAUCD4RSUZBZEe or this

or this https://www.wowhead.com/profession-tree-calc/blacksmithing/BDwAUFD4RSXZBZBe

[mystic perch]

Heya, if i want indomitable and battle scarred, any recommendation what i could drop?

[tribal wharf]

thats my plan for now

[ivory barn]

https://www.wow-professions.com/midnight/blacksmithing-specialization-guide-and-builds I went here and put 12 points into long blades like a dumb dumb

[solid sun]

If you want BSV you drop TaN

Idk what you drop to take indom. Not sure I’ve seen any suggestions for what you’d drop to take it

[ivory barn]

My PC can't open wowhead without it crashing 😭

[undone beacon]

We dont reccomend taking indom, its not very good

[tribal wharf]

it WAS good

now its not

[mystic perch]

ty ty

what is TaN

[undone beacon]

Tough as Nails

[lofty warren]

Touch your nails

[tribal wharf]

when block deal thorns

[lusty grotto]

youre on your phone

i know because people that type the first letter in caps are always on their phones due to autocorrect

[lofty warren]

https://youtu.be/1BGExKZhAcs?si=yQXt4irZV_6DYVN_

Dorki has informed us that blizz is bad at balancing tanks

[tribal wharf]

i'd shame him for having a bad phone but im in no postion to speak on phones and tablets

tablets going to die any day now

[ivory barn]

Autocorrect is indeed dumb, but yeah on my PC wowhead bricks it

[lusty grotto]

so open it on your phone

your pc might be a potato

[tribal wharf]

my tablet is crashing out lol

[ivory barn]

🧐

5900x and a 3080 😭

[lusty grotto]

how the fuck is wowhead crashing

i have like 70 tabs of it open right now

and i have that same cpu

and a 3070ti

[solid sun]

He’s using internet explorer

[tribal wharf]

he might only have 4 or 8 or 16 gb of ram

[unreal yarrow]

Video acceleration in your browser

[lusty grotto]

perhaps

i have 32gb

[ivory barn]

32gb at 4000

[tribal wharf]

should be fine :S

[harsh ermine]

so Indomitable is not good? Wasn't it improved to before?
I'd like to be as beefy as can be^^
With the changes coming, I can't skip apex lvl 4 anymore, so I have to think about what to do

[lusty grotto]

what in the fuck then

[tribal wharf]

maybe different browser

[ivory barn]

Or 3600 I can't remember, but yeah I open it and within 5m my PC hard crashes

[lusty grotto]

do you not use ublock origin?

[solid sun]

I recommend using a build from icy veins

[lusty grotto]

no, it was not improved to before (if you mean DF levels)

[undone beacon]

It was buffed but its still not what it was in DF

[lusty grotto]

it was buffed to halfway between TWW and DF

[unreal yarrow]

There are differing opinions on indom. What content are you foing?

[harsh ermine]

Ah, ok. I meant compared to TWW, yep

[lofty warren]

Indom is skipped according to icy veins. Some streamer builds only do 1/4 apex in favor of touch my nails, extra rage off rend, and indom

[lusty grotto]

people salivate too much over self sustain on a tank that has never been self sustained dependant

[tribal wharf]

i would pay 100$ a month for "block all advertisements on the internet" or like, what i really mean is 95% reduction on them

[harsh ermine]

Mainly M+, raid only to heroic

[tribal wharf]

i would pay that in a fucking second

[solid sun]

Y’all need to stop

[lusty grotto]

what key level

[harsh ermine]

usually only ~12-13, maybe 14.

pugging though

[lusty grotto]

then you absolutely do not need to be beefy

just get gear

[unreal yarrow]

Skip indomitable then imo

[lusty grotto]

you do not need BSV either

[unreal yarrow]

Apex will be better. I'd keep bsv though at least for the first few weeks

[undone beacon]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you're genuinely the kind of player that is considering taking indom because you're pushing bleeding edge content, you're not the kind of player asking this discord. For the vast majority of people, stick to the reccomended builds. Theyre reccomended for a reason

[ivory barn]

I'm not trying to sound stupid, but no I don't. Last ad blocker I had was AB Plus and it didn't help anything

[tribal wharf]

bsv will keep you alive while you gear up

[harsh ermine]

the thing is, with pugs I often have to compensate for ppl butt pulling or the healer being half asleep, so I usually tend to try to be as sturdy as can be

[unreal yarrow]

Kira lists indomitable as a must take

[tribal wharf]

not so nessecary on just standard weekly vault keys

[harsh ermine]

sometimes I fall over last, which kind of satisfying 😄

[solid sun]

Who cares what Kira does

[lusty grotto]

then install it

[solid sun]

Are you doing Kira keys

[undone beacon]

Its not your job to compensate for bad players, its your job to tank and if the group cant handle it then gg go next y'know

[unreal yarrow]

It was in response to pash's comment

[lusty grotto]

what kira picks, does not apply to anyone here

[undone beacon]

Kira plays a different game than the rest of us

[harsh ermine]

I know, maybe I'm too nice ^^

[tribal wharf]

you want to be respectful about take the frontal off the melee, but if they are right beside you in it the whole time

well

[unreal yarrow]

I don't disagree, but flatly stating indomitable is for noobs only is incorrect

[tribal wharf]

dont go out of way to save them from it

[lofty warren]

5% dr vs 10% max hp increase, more rage off rend, and 1% heal for every 15 rage. The simmers say that 5% is better defensively. At a certain amount of rage generated/spent i would think the 2nd option would be more?

[undone beacon]

Thats not what I said though

[lusty grotto]

no

[tribal wharf]

how much dps average is tan

[lusty grotto]

hard DR is better than it all

[tribal wharf]

i dont have a number for how much dps it deals

[undone beacon]

Where did I say that indom is for noobs

[lusty grotto]

if you can prevent the damage, you dont have to heal it

especially with an unreliable self sustain

what does indom do for you if you kite

if you have to move from mechaanics and cannot SS boss?

[unreal yarrow]

I exaggerated, my point was meant to be there is gray area that can be discussed

[harsh ermine]

does it really matter how much damage I do in the 12-14 key level range?

[lofty warren]

Well if youre not kiting (hope we're not going back to sl s1)

[undone beacon]

Yeah. The more damage you do, the faster the key gets done. "Tank damage doesnt matter" is a common fallacy

[lusty grotto]

remember that damage = threat

[tribal wharf]

if you play well, (which is doing your rotation correctly), you will have the most buffs on you and debuffs on your enemy, so you will kill the enemy faster and take less damage

it sounds stupid

[undone beacon]

Well I never "flatly said" anything about indom being for noobs, dont put words in my mouth or extrapolate things I'm saying especially when that extrapolation is not even close to what I was saying

Its bad for discourse

[tribal wharf]

but it works

and thus you wont need indom

[lofty warren]

Like if the dr was 1% instead of 5% then for sure the self heal would be bigger defensively so its a math gayme

[tribal wharf]

you wont need its max hp or its weak heal, because your job is to try to stay above 85% hp whenever possible anyways

[lofty warren]

What do you get if ur above i5% hp?

[harsh ermine]

hmm, in theory if I could pull more because of being more sturdy, that would also be a damage increase 😉
But probably it makes little difference in pull sizes with current tuning right?

[lusty grotto]

self sustain does not necessarily equal "sturdiness"

also

at this point in time, there is no "grey area"

keys arent even live

[unreal yarrow]

I'm trying to type quickly on a phone. I didn't mean to imply said you it.

[harsh ermine]

and tuning is still ongoing

[lusty grotto]

the first tuning pass has already been announced though

[undone beacon]

The other consideration is what you're giving up to get that additional sturdy-ness. Its all a give and trade

[lusty grotto]

if you mean dungeon tuning, then sure

[undone beacon]

And right now theres not much worth giving up

[tribal wharf]

"you are the main tank becuase you have more hp than the other tank" meta died in wrath of the lich king

[harsh ermine]

good old times 😄

[undone beacon]

The prot tree is actually quite tight in terms of points, theres a lot of value and/or things locked up that are must take points

If Fueled By Violence didnt lead to Shield Charge, we prob wouldnt take it

[solid sun]

Like if you cap out at 14s, you really aren’t putting yourself in a position to worry too much about defensive sturdiness outside of simply playing correctly/well. so if you give up TaN for BSV, as an example, you just sacrificed damage you could have been doing for a talented ability you didn’t even proc and therefore never needed

[unreal yarrow]

Bsv saves runs. Indomitable won't for the most part

[lofty warren]

Let ppl think they need to pick every defensive talent so its easier to get 99 parse for the rest of us

[harsh ermine]

I see the point. I just love the safety net. I would also always run a cheat death trinket over a simple stat stick.
Just for it saving me from a potential wipe if I mess up for whatever reason

[lusty grotto]

thats not why were in this channel pepega

[lusty grotto]

on a vault key?

[lofty warren]

No memes allowed 👎

[lusty grotto]

right now what matters is getting gear

[coarse bay]

Good idea in theory, but most pulls aren’t limited because of the tank, but because of stronger elites, mechanics, casters, etc.

Blizzard designs packs to not be pulled too large

[lusty grotto]

gear will make you live far longer than any talent build will

especially a high ilvl shield

[unreal yarrow]

You living is mostly not the limiting factor on pull size of a 14

[undone beacon]

I was going to follow up rhinos comment with it being the same conceit as cheat/defensive trinkets haha. We also dont reccomend you do that if you dont need them, what you lose over the course of a key is usually greater than the potential of saving a pull. How many times have you ran a key where you didn't proc the cheat? etcetc

[lusty grotto]

picking BSV isnt a huge deal though

[harsh ermine]

in a 11 or 12 in pugs, yes. Been tanking pugs on different tanks over expansions and its really messy sometimes. Which can be part of the fun, if you struggle to survive ^^

[lusty grotto]

TaN for BSV is fine

[lusty grotto]

so hav ei

and i have never been in a situation where i was the one that died due to missplay

[solid sun]

Im just using it as an example. The same thought process applies to Indom

[lusty grotto]

if the group wipes, the group wipes

[kind urchin]

If you're not proccing your cheat you need to pull bigger. The rest of your team must be bored with not enough mobs. Make them fight for their lives.

[harsh ermine]

like I mentioned in the beginning, I try to compensate, which I maybe shouldn't 😄

[lofty warren]

Funny you said that. Dorki just made a video saying that the simmers historically recommended stuff that wasn't best for tanks bc its nlt only about damage and then he said how they didnt recommend cheat death trinkets as an example

[solid sun]

Now I will say if you suffer from tanxiety and need additional defensive talents to help overcome that impediment, that’s a different conversation

[harsh ermine]

I usually try 😄

[smoky saffron]

Silly question why does raids thane run deep wounds instead of more rend damage and colossus doesn't? Are we using execute in raid ST to out damage the rend increase for 80% of a fight?

[ivory barn]

Realistic first m+ week is probably 10's?

[lusty grotto]

but youre not compensating at all, if the group wipes the group wipes, its not you dying

[coarse bay]

Cheat death trinkets can be an option at an extreme level, above title cutoff. Theyre generally worse and a get good angle.

[lusty grotto]

dorki has probably not been in here for a while

[harsh ermine]

if they add another pack that wasn't planned and I maybe have no cds because I blew them on the pull before, it can be a bit tough sometimes

[lusty grotto]

he has had that same logic in poddyc for years

[solid sun]

Thankfully you play pwar

[lusty grotto]

can you give me an example of this happening recently?

i just

dont see how that could kill you

on a vault key

[solid sun]

Pwar is extremely defensively stout

[harsh ermine]

that is true, which is a reason why I like it 😉

[solid sun]

Even if I have trouble dying sometimes and I don’t have opposable thumbs

[sharp gale]

i can say not even your shield breaking will do it

[coarse bay]

Shield breaking indeed kills

[lofty warren]

Fact: I used cheat death trinket on sylvanass mythic and there is no amount of guides or sims that can convince me otherwise

[coarse bay]

I think cheat death trinkets in raid prog are entirely different tbf

[solid sun]

I think cheat death in general is one of those tough areas because there’s some feelycraft involved that math wizards usually discredit

[sharp gale]

raid prog is not vault keys

[solid sun]

Like if someone plays more comfortably with a cheat death trinket on and therefore plays better it’s probably worth it

Even if the math doesn’t support it

But the math wizards also aren’t wrong

[lusty grotto]

why are we discussing cheat deaths

[coarse bay]

Idk

[lusty grotto]

it has been extremely easy to flex a point to BSV

this discussion is irrelevant

[lofty warren]

For vault keys doesnt matter but if ur progging/pushing then worth. Take the 5% dps hit to avoid group wipe and total key/attempt failure

[harsh ermine]

I've stopped early last season and swapped to a dps for the rest of it, so haven't had an m+ since then.
Generally I've had a couple of pugs, where I made a big pull and additional pats were added or where dps did not interrupt maybe a fear and added hoards of other mobs.

I'll check keep track season and note examples and post them here:)

Granted its not every key and some keys, my cheat death effects would be not procced at all.
Although, the +3% or so dmg would also not really make that much of a difference from a regular stat stick for example

[lusty grotto]

but if you want the old rat to tell you the story of how this channel has felt about cheats before BSV was fixed and/or it was easy to flex a point towards it, i certainly can

[lofty warren]

Yay story time

[lusty grotto]

you didnt die due to mobs, you died due to missplays of your group

no fear kicks?

[unreal yarrow]

It is good to treat proccing it unexpectedly as a learning moment.

[harsh ermine]

kicks in pugs ? 😄 If you are lucky, 1 of 3 dps has the button in the bar

[lusty grotto]

...

youre not seeing my point here

[daring marlin]

damn

[harsh ermine]

I know what you mean. It would not be my fault

[lusty grotto]

do you think being extra defensive would have helped there?

[daring marlin]

You can farm so much anguish by running into traps

[lusty grotto]

actually let me rephrase that

[daring marlin]

glad I have the plate and cloth ensembles before they inevitably fix it lol

[undone beacon]

By walking into traps??

[toxic pewter]

wait so u run over the traps dont disarm them?

[undone beacon]

That sounds painful

[daring marlin]

ye

[toxic pewter]

and it spawns a little clickable red thing?

[coarse bay]

Taking a cheat death isnt as simple as losing dmg either, you gain defensive benefit from the str and whatever other stat might be on another trinket as well

[daring marlin]

It always gives anguish if you run into them

5-10 each

[toxic pewter]

omg

didnt realize it was every time O_O

[lofty warren]

Ohh I just noticed we arent taking this talent. Againe its probably a talent swap ppl do for mythic prog but then againe you cant make guides for every specific niche case

[harsh ermine]

usually they do have strength + the cheat death effect, don't they? or like a 2ndary stat + the effect

[coarse bay]

No

Like s3 tww gave a little vers i think?

[unreal yarrow]

There is no cheat death trinket this season, right?

[tribal wharf]

take it if you want to

[coarse bay]

No

It isnt an every season thing

[lusty grotto]

there wasnt a cheat trinket in all of TWW

except for dimmy's

and nobody used it because it really wasnt that great

[coarse bay]

Which was pretty bad and didnt work with multiple tank talents

[lofty warren]

Vdh has a cheat death talent and bsv reads to me like a very close version to cheat detah

[lusty grotto]

yes pepega, keep up

picking BSV is not the discussion

its easily grabbed

[lofty warren]

But it functions basically like a cheat death?

[lusty grotto]

its similar, but different

[coarse bay]

Cheat death dumb discussion like nim said

Lets talk something better

[lusty grotto]

but by all intents and purposes, we might as well call it a cheat

either way, theres no reason to argue against it

[undone beacon]

The original question was indom, but i dont wanna talk about indom more

[lusty grotto]

you can just move the point from TaN to it

[harsh ermine]

I mean there is this one, but this thing is an insult overall. I mean wtf 😄
Thats even too bad for me, and thats saying something 😄

[lusty grotto]

i said TWW

not Midnight

[unreal yarrow]

I asked if there was one

[harsh ermine]

yep

[lusty grotto]

ah

[unreal yarrow]

This doesn't qualify

[harsh ermine]

it doesnt

its a joke

[lusty grotto]

its a decent trinket regardless

well...

nah

[tribal wharf]

i have that one with tert

[harsh ermine]

I've gotten it as well. but honestly, I think there is a 0 missing at the end

[lofty warren]

Wasn't the tww back a cheat death

[lusty grotto]

the best defensive trinket rn

fis manaheart

but

thats not gonna show up in the season anyway

because its murder row

[undone beacon]

Manaheart is s2 yeah

[lusty grotto]

jelly would be great if it was on use

its kinda mid as it is

[lofty warren]

Agree they need to fully redesign murder row before they release it into the wild

[lusty grotto]

shrug murder row is fine

but either way they always do a pass on them

[undone beacon]

Gloom-Spattered Dreadscale time

[mighty valley]

new topic: findom

[toxic pewter]

O_O

[undone beacon]

my response to that was blocked by the server

whoops

[toxic pewter]

O_O

[lofty warren]

Too many blocked words

[mighty valley]

findom is ok, there are just better options in that part of the tree tbh

[undone beacon]

Gloomscale and Solar Core are prob gonna be the go-to def trinkets from raid/m+

[lusty grotto]

the indom thing is gonna be this season long discussion

this season's

[solid sun]

That and if we take 4/4 apex

[lusty grotto]

and if kira and co, dont go 4/4

it probably will be too

[lofty warren]

Does thunder blast buff phalaynx?

Or is it only clap

[lusty grotto]

if youre asking if it grants phalanx

then the answer is y es

TB is TC

everything TC does, TB does as well

apply rend

grant phalanx

etc

[mint shadow]

didnt wowhead used to have a bis list from M+ only?

[lusty grotto]

we dont support wowhead right now but yes it did in the past

[lofty warren]

Ohh bc I was reading this one site and it said tb doesnt work with the apex talent. Misinformation everywhere you'd think <insert analogy that im gonna say>

[lusty grotto]

that was the case with only fury

for a bit

then it got fixed

so thats no longer relevant

[solid sun]

Warriors is not that tanky?

[lusty grotto]

and yes that site is completely wrong

[solid sun]

Huh

[lofty warren]

That ss is from a pwar page

[sharp gale]

He is shell shocked by murder row

[solid sun]

Poor guy

[lusty grotto]

then he was completely misinformed

might be pulling some beta shit in thats no longer relevant idk

i wouldnt be surprised if thats dpsdmg writing that garbage

[sharp gale]

Or they are on hold for tomorrow on updates like many wowhead ones

[solid sun]

lol

I feel like wowhead is in shambles rn

Not even talking about pwar

I’ve seen several people mention different specs are barebones

Incomplete

Etc etc

[sharp gale]

Kinda logic they will not rewrite the page every week something is found

[lofty warren]

Bear is an example of one that has been fully abandoned by wowhead

[toxic pewter]

I mean you can calculate how much 5% dr is ballpark at least just look all damage taken and then just multipply by .95

[lusty grotto]

wowhead will be fine as a whole, this aint the first time we ignore one site

plus it has Archi as the dps writer

[coarse bay]

A lot of those are done by long time guidewriters/mains of those specs and are heavily invested. The person writing the wowhead guide now doesnt main pwar, has 3 specs to make guides for, and also raids at a very high level at the start of an expac

[sharp gale]

Yeah I don’t feel it is really in shambles, I suspect they just wait tomorrow / actual season, minus pwar situation

[lusty grotto]

yeah pumps probably took it on to serve as a placeholder

until they find someone

[lofty warren]

If he is raiding high and doing guides for a million specs then won't the quality of the guides suffer bc he is too busy?

[coarse bay]

Then apply to do it

[sharp gale]

To do a uniform post our guides are updated for S1 sent on discord app etc

[coarse bay]

There arent that many people that are willing to AND capable of doing the guides

[toxic pewter]

updating my resume now for the wowhead guide guy

[solid sun]

I’d be a great guidewriter

[toxic pewter]

absolutely zero maths

just feels

[coarse bay]

Idk people sometimes act like it isnt a lot of work to do the guides, and is usually from a place of passion, they arent making a living spending all that time doing it

[lofty warren]

No not me. Nimchomp or @frosty mango should do it

[lusty grotto]

[coarse bay]

Wowhead just needs to find writers for pwar and ppal

Until then

This is it

Recommend other sources

[lusty grotto]

nah i have a well paying job

[lofty warren]

Roidberg was going to update the reflect weak aura but got lost so this is his chance at redemption

[solid sun]

I don’t like most of what Pepega says but nimchomp is funny

[lofty warren]

Tbh I dont care who does it. I just want it to be accurate

[toxic pewter]

pepega only care about result

[sharp gale]

Pepega should be the next orange name

[lofty warren]

How much does wowhead pay to update it for a spec/season combo?

[coarse bay]

This is also a shitty time to be a guidewriter, there’s been so many changes and tuning for a lot of specs that shouldve been handled in beta

Theyre working overtime

[coarse bay]

Idk the number, but it isnt a lot. Not worth the time

Like i said, the people who do it want to do it

[lofty warren]

I'll do it for $50,000

[mighty valley]

maybe the era of the guide is over. it's vibes time

[solid sun]

I get that. I have been hearing from a lot of specs that they feel like it isn’t a very good place atm though.

[sharp gale]

Grok will guide us all

[coarse bay]

Rhiyes for president

[solid sun]

I’m not gonna go check every spec and even if I did I wouldn’t know what’s good or bad, but it’s less than ideal that it’s getting this reputation. A lot of people already distrust IV

[coarse bay]

Ya ive been using wowhead for awhile, havent used icyveins since legion

[toxic pewter]

the age of men is over.. the time of the vulperas has come

[sharp gale]

I think 90% of icyveins distrust comes from the previous web UI

[coarse bay]

Kinda unfortunate that 3 specs that i play arent well kept up on for wowhead but w/e

[lofty warren]

Icy veins spec guides are better than wowhead now imo

[sharp gale]

Idk I just play war so…

[solid sun]

Pumps must be prepping like 20 characters

[frosty mango]

https://tenor.com/view/no-randy-jackson-dawg-gif-12730917

[lofty warren]

Why cant he just cheat and copy/paste off all the hard work mwahi did

[frosty mango]

@strong forum the people call your name

[solid sun]

I miss Roid

[coarse bay]

Probably copyright

[toxic pewter]

lol

[frosty mango]

I miss me too

[toxic pewter]

pepega is wild

[solid sun]

Roid left and we forgot how to talk about food

[toxic pewter]

dude just endorses casual plagiarism

[lofty warren]

How can you copyright a prioriry list

[tribal wharf]

paladin 88, probably 90 tonight

[coarse bay]

By copy pasting

Like u said

[toxic pewter]

pe 'the ends justify the means' pega

[frosty mango]

I am currently not playing retail and tbh it’s been great

[lusty grotto]

that opinion doubles my suspicion that pepega just uses a priority rotation bot

[frosty mango]

I got a fat gearscore in classic and I only gotta play 90 minutes a week

[lusty grotto]

"just cheat!"

[solid sun]

What got you into classic

[coarse bay]

[lusty grotto]

hounding tier lists, inspecting priority lists

feels spelled out at this point

[frosty mango]

The lack of effort required

[lofty warren]

Priority rotation bot? But if that is used then what's the point of even playing.

[lusty grotto]

noble save

[kind talon]

I am one ilvl short of being able to queue for heroics

and no WQs with gear to snag

[frosty mango]

I would never be a wowhead guide writer for two major reasons

One - I used to be a technical writer and end users are idiots. They point at your words but misinterpret them and then blame you when they fail miserably

Two - it’s basically a job (and they do pay iirc) but what they can pay you vs the effort required is very lopsided, so you have to be very passionate

[coarse bay]

[strong forum]

huh

[coarse bay]

Biggest true

[coarse bay]

What ilvl is that even? You can probably just do m0, ive never touched heroic dungeons

[frosty mango]

The community misses you and wants you to unretire and ascend back to your rightful place as warrior king

[strong forum]

game bad

[kind talon]

need 211, I am 210

[sharp gale]

Pepega for orange

[lusty grotto]

i havent touched heroics either cam lmao

[frosty mango]

We agree, hence my also retired status

[coarse bay]

210 is enough for m0 imo, up to you if u want to try for heroic or move past it

[lofty warren]

Pretty sure heroic dungeon is illegal atm

[coarse bay]

[kind talon]

I'm confident in my abilities but not my knowledge. I'll have to study the mythic mechanics first I think.

[coarse bay]

Nah

Just send it

The expac just came out

[solid sun]

Game isn't even bad, Roid

You're being mean :(

[frosty mango]

Most people are terrible. Plus you’re the tank, if it goes sideways just insult the rest of the group and blame them

[sharp gale]

Yeah just study and fail in m0s you will learn quicker

[lusty grotto]

no dont do that

[coarse bay]

Roidberg for guidewriter

[toxic pewter]

Midnight is like 4-6 times better than war within so far for me

[lusty grotto]

do not blame your group

[frosty mango]

It would be a short guide

[kind talon]

you've all convinced me, I'm off the wipe the group 🫡

[frosty mango]

Obviously I could never be the problem

[lusty grotto]

let me take you out back, back to classic land you go

[coarse bay]

You got it king, it’s not a big deal just have some fun. Nobody is so sweaty to get mad rn(or shouldnt) and most mythic mechanics you can just figure out by seeing

[frosty mango]

Hold on I got a screenshot for you

[sharp gale]

Don’t read chat, just send, try to go higher and fails will teach you why you failed

[toxic pewter]

[frosty mango]

"hey man you still gotta heal me"

[lusty grotto]

[kind talon]

I appreciate you guys

[frosty mango]

see classic is still retail

[lusty grotto]

thats a classic player alright

[analog swift]

sorry if this is not quite the right spot, are there any addons or something that replicate weak auras for tracking tankbusting debuffs durign raid?

[lusty grotto]

bigwigs and dbm

[analog swift]

dbm will still show the whole "taunt" thing or nah?

[lusty grotto]

no

[lofty warren]

Classic suck. Swing timer and eating between mobs to level should be used in guantamono bay. That would get anyone to Crack in a week

[lusty grotto]

but it can track debuffs etc

just use the good ole "eye" addon

[daring marlin]

same

I got to like 226 through world content and smacked m0s overgearing it handily

[frosty mango]

thats only a thing if you got no gear, I mostly play a healer and a tank so not my problem.

lol

[toxic pewter]

do alts get access to the 4 champion pieces from renown

they do right

[lusty grotto]

yes

[frosty mango]

classic is the ultimate braindead adventure, I love it. I'm right at home

[analog swift]

cool thanks man I guess I'll look to configure it

[toxic pewter]

that pretty sweet

[daring marlin]

you gotta do the world tour things though

[toxic pewter]

I see

[daring marlin]

which aren't hard, obviously

[frosty mango]

I'm back off ot the abyss boys. Remember - smoked meats are king, we love plants, and the tank is never at fault.

[toxic pewter]

ya good to know tho

[solid sun]

when are you coming back roid

[toxic pewter]

see ya roid

[mighty valley]

drowning guy meme and the high five is giving renew

[frosty mango]

Also keep @mighty valley away from the grill

[toxic pewter]

lol

[frosty mango]

S2 maybe if I have time

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-2

[toxic pewter]

I did not

[solid sun]

Harrow burned his neighborhood down

[mighty valley]

probably signing a builder contract this week, folks

[solid sun]

i got you, apb

[mighty valley]

gimme one more year and i'll be back at the grill

[lusty grotto]

hell yea lets go

[frosty mango]

insurance prices just skyrocketed boys

https://giphy.com/gifs/wwe-peace-out-seth-rollins-Ru9sjtZ09XOEg

[mighty valley]

insurance investigations found that no smoked brisket was involved in the fire

the law is on my side

[toxic pewter]

mmm brisket mmmmm

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpsons-the-simpsons-drooling-gif-8650008

[undone beacon]

Love you miss you bye

[drowsy comet]

https://youtu.be/1BGExKZhAcs?is=a5UED4xvTcF58aPC
Interesting take tbh

[lusty grotto]

oh boy

2nd time thats been linked today

by regulars no less

[drowsy comet]

[toxic pewter]

im watching it now

[lusty grotto]

im so fucking disappointed

[drowsy comet]

i mean I get what hes saying tho

and by watching thr vid, it just makes sense that Blizzard doesnt know how to balance shit

but im not the guy for that, as I barely have a clue tbh

[kind talon]

I have no doubt that blizzard tunes, in large part, based upon conext-less numbers

[lusty grotto]

as much as i like dorki

i aint gonna watch that

so what is his point

[kind talon]

the thumbnail does the logic within a disservice

he basically says here are parses and why they arent indicative of a tank's real quality or lack thereof

[drowsy comet]

watch it then you know

[kind talon]

because parses do not reflect reality of play

[lusty grotto]

ok but what does that have to do with blizzard balancing

[drowsy comet]

balancing around M0 dungeons, while Beta has been going for a couple of months

[lusty grotto]

thats a good point... on a vacuum

but the reality is

beta does not have the amount of players a release has

the amount of data they can pull up in a live setting is massive in comparison to beta

plus

they had a deadline

so they had to code freeze

i dont see the problem with prot warrior other than execute hitting like a wet noodle

seems fine after tomorrow's reset

so what is this video really about? which class?

[drowsy comet]

mostly about prot warrior but tanks in general

just watch the video

[lusty grotto]

im not

dorki was one of the first ones that thought that TB was in beta state as prot

so /cancelaura was the play

and it wasnt

cancelaura was not ever a thing for us in prepatch

[daring marlin]

Watch the video and get propagandized bro

[drowsy comet]

exactly

anyway, back to my healer journey

[tribal wharf]

many many shamans rn i have no idea why

3 i 1 group

2 in this

[toxic pewter]

im 10 min into this video and he barely has mentioned prot warr..

[dusky canopy]

Anytime I hear “cancelaura” 🤮

[toxic pewter]

so tired of holier than thou streamers

[tribal wharf]

druids too

[toxic pewter]

i fuk'd up and gave his video a view

oof

[daring marlin]

LMFAO APB

[toxic pewter]

should of watched it in discord

[undone beacon]

cancelaura is great cuz sometime i hit turtle and i dont wanna be in turtle for toooooo long

[toxic pewter]

cancelaura for bladestorm pretty important too

in pvp at least

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-oscars-that-feeling-2026-gif-9415970968621726961

[toxic pewter]

pringle mount comin to trading post in future

[drowsy comet]

lmao they actually made a new dicaprio meme

[dusky canopy]

His date looks like an adult???

[drowsy comet]

I know exactly that u follow Wowhead on Twitter and saw the pop up message

[toxic pewter]

lol

I just saw it on wowhead but i am on x a lot i cant lie

and I do follow wowhead..

[drowsy comet]

He somehow gotta stay young and cool tho

[toxic pewter]

O_O

[drowsy comet]

hehe

[lusty grotto]

cancelaura dn

[drowsy comet]

thats like the 5th deez nuts joke you brought up the last 7 days, think of something new smh my head

[lusty grotto]

something new dn

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/conor-mc-gregor-who-the-fook-is-that-guy-who-the-fuck-interview-gif-9518656

[sand condor]

Ey gang are we still X tier with the buffs

X as in eXtremely fucking based

[mighty valley]

now and forever

[undone beacon]

we're more like X for Xtremely seXy

[lusty grotto]

more like X for Xtremely dn

[drowsy comet]

one more dn joke and i will steal yours

[lusty grotto]

steal dn

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-meme-wiggle-wiggles-gif-12335075100386316901

[lusty grotto]

holy cow hold on now

[drowsy comet]

no balls

[lusty grotto]

at least take me out to dinner first

[solid sun]

lil gup went from learning about adult themed content in this channel to playing with balls

They grow up so fast

[sand condor]

Oh yeah we are

[sand condor]

I got some leftovers from my pre-gym meal, that okay?

[solid sun]

What did you do at the gym

[lusty grotto]

what kind

[solid sun]

I bet it was a Pokémon gym

[drowsy comet]

Im still in shock of libido

[lusty grotto]

well i was asking about the leftovers

[solid sun]

I know but I couldn’t help myself

[lusty grotto]

but that fits also

[drowsy comet]

What else would a rat eat than leftovers

[solid sun]

Speaking of Pokémon, did you read about the Pokémon go company?

[drowsy comet]

do them balls fit

[lusty grotto]

nein

[solid sun]

They’ve amassed some ridiculous amount of geographical/cartographical information

[lusty grotto]

yes

[solid sun]

From everyone walking around scanning landmarks and storefronts and everything else

[lusty grotto]

did you read that? cause im gonna delete it

[solid sun]

Yeah

I can’t remember what the article said specifically their end goal was

But it was pretty impressive

[lusty grotto]

i dont wanna dox myself here kek

[drowsy comet]

[undone beacon]

i know exactly who you are now

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/god-damn-it-craig-tucker-1

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-moist-i-know-what-kind-of-mand-you-are-gif-4332896312672829230

[solid sun]

Delivery robots!

That’s what it was

Dadgum delivery robots

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats kind of accurate

[solid sun]

I can’t wait for some robot pikachu to deliver my packages

[lusty grotto]

but its a lot more advanced than that

i hope youve seen the instas and tik toks of the robot delivery trucks in china

[solid sun]

Nah I don’t have instagram

[lusty grotto]

but you have FB

😬

[solid sun]

Yeah mostly for family

[lusty grotto]

😬 😬 😬 😬

[solid sun]

I don’t understand

[drowsy comet]

boomers

[lusty grotto]

its fine, i deleted facebook like 7 years ago

[dusky canopy]

I’m about ready to

[lusty grotto]

but its great for knowing unhinged political opinions of your family mmebers

[dusky canopy]

All it does is collect data to advertise shit to me

[drowsy comet]

doesnt make you younger lol

[dusky canopy]

I don’t even post anything

[lusty grotto]

makes me saner though

[solid sun]

As you can see I don’t check it very often

[drowsy comet]

delete twitter and reddit, then you become a wise old man

[warm plinth]

Haven't even added me smh

[drowsy comet]

hoped for 67

[solid sun]

Adding now

[warm plinth]

[lusty grotto]

HOW ELSE WOULD I DOOMSCROLL?

[warm plinth]

I doomscroll on facebook and YouTube

[lusty grotto]

fb scrolling aint doomscrolling

[undone beacon]

YT shorts

[lusty grotto]

its euthanasia scrolling

[glad magnet]

Newspaper

[warm plinth]

Idk what that means

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

[warm plinth]

They all have the same shit

[dusky canopy]

Just wait until the brainrot kids are adults looking for work

[warm plinth]

People cross post to every platform and half of facebook reels are already Instagram reels

[solid sun]

Found Ghash

[lusty grotto]

alright see here my good feller, i am not that old

[solid sun]

GHASH, just for fun

[lusty grotto]

jk i am

[warm plinth]

Discord and battle.net are the only places I even have a reference to Ghash

[solid sun]

I thought about searching for Ghashbrowns

But I was geniunely concerned about what I might find

[lusty grotto]

besides you cant scroll on newspapers, you just turn pages

smh my head

[solid sun]

doomturning

Maybe newspapers are doom maxxing

[lusty grotto]

MF

[undone beacon]

mf doom

[lusty grotto]

ive been looking for a wild argenleaf for 2 hours

and i found one

[dusky canopy]

Is reading the news paper doom scrolling but vintage?

[glad magnet]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

druid flew in first spawned adds

but he came back and killed them

[glad magnet]

Just like memes are just jokes

[lusty grotto]

im so happy

[sharp gale]

leveling valeera is demonic

[lusty grotto]

i even told him ty in /say

[glad magnet]

Kids like to change words so they feel like they made something up we’ve been doing forever. TREENS ARE NOW BEDROTTING. It’s called depression Brenda.

[undone beacon]

I'll bedrot you

[dusky canopy]

With*

[lusty grotto]

i legit just got a stroke reading that

not enough rizz

[glad magnet]

You’re a tank therefore old therefore at higher stroke risk. Be safe.

[undone beacon]

slangpilled oldcel? Thats rizz

[lusty grotto]

holy fuck

ok i legit cracked up at oldscel

[glad magnet]

Nottin hotter than some oldhead

[sharp gale]

Ok unc

[drowsy comet]

Glad I dont own Facebook

[drowsy comet]

i cant say what im thinking, but why tf does he look beep like gollum

[lusty grotto]

lil gup discovering decades old wow memes

gup growing up

[drowsy comet]

bingo is in 5 minutes gramps, get ready

[toxic pewter]

lol

XD

[lusty grotto]

im so old

we used that joke with our grandparents

[toxic pewter]

lol

[drowsy comet]

we know

[toxic pewter]

lil pug will be hearing the same shit soon enough

[drowsy comet]

I do these jokes my parents too

[sharp gale]

iPad kids calling us old

[drowsy comet]

I got a few years, no stress about that. First comes the balding, then the back pain, then you shrink ans have a walking stick. Comes all together

[toxic pewter]

LMAO

im shrunken af

it all checks out

[lusty grotto]

i got good genes, no balding

[toxic pewter]

i basically have all of that

[lusty grotto]

or shriveling

i look like a 28 y/o

[sharp gale]

Old status is gained when you growl when you get up

[toxic pewter]

lil pug actually hit close to home with that one

[drowsy comet]

Fuck no. I was a going outside kid. Now im in my room playing wow, that a glow up

[sharp gale]

Roblox is not outside

[drowsy comet]

turn that facebook filter off

[lusty grotto]

i fucking get carded everywhere

[toxic pewter]

i look like im prob somewhere in my 60s

[lusty grotto]

smh my head

[worthy karma]

Okay so are people crafting anything yet, or waiting till mythic raid week?

[drowsy comet]

atleast somebody is realistic here

[toxic pewter]

i made a 1h sword and im gonna make a shield this week

[drowsy comet]

Nah waiting

[sharp gale]

I will probably craft just before raid, this week

[lusty grotto]

no reason to craft until then

[worthy karma]

are you mythic raiding?

[toxic pewter]

nah

i may pug first few bosses perhaps

but that will be later anyway

I just am tired of leaving things to chance in vault personally

at this point I just craft shit i want with stats and embellishment i want

[worthy karma]

lol

[drowsy comet]

i wonder how raid healigg is...

[worthy karma]

yeee thats what iw as thinking

[drowsy comet]

Diapers guys, diapers smh

[worthy karma]

no vault from m0/delves this week right?

[sharp gale]

You could open your vault menu if there was a vault

[worthy karma]

thats what i figured

but with how broken UI stuff is these days lol

[sharp gale]

Im unaware of those so idk

[dusky canopy]

Imagine

[lusty grotto]

it sucks, my friends dont

[worthy karma]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-21437085

mfw seeing people talking about being carded

[lusty grotto]

ive done too much doxing today

[worthy karma]

fair

[dusky canopy]

Fuck it bro

We’re all doxed for the right price

Modern day living

“Accept these here terms about privacy that you won’t read”

[lusty grotto]

true and real

[undone beacon]

link in bio to my social security

(That’s a bit)

[solid sun]

Pash’s ip address is 9.021.0

Is that enough numbers

[sharp gale]

I think ip address is 4 numbers from 0 to 256

[solid sun]

@undone beacon on a scale of 0-256 how doxxed do you feel

[undone beacon]

About 7

[solid sun]

Sweet success.

[meager quail]

Kinda ironic that I woke up from my old man nap to all this

The confirmation that I’m not as old as Nim was nice

[loud citrus]

what item are u gonna craft with sparks as a protection warrior?

as fury i know most ppl gonna craft 2h weapon. but as protection i dont know

[lusty grotto]

i swear i answered you that already

check the pins

[toxic pewter]

ive never been carded ]

ppl just assume im over 40

my whole life

[lusty grotto]

its just good genes on my part

well

i have some really bad genes too but not appearance wise

[meager quail]

The genetic lottery is such a [naughty word]

[lusty grotto]

it do be like that

[tribal wharf]

whatever thta broken shield over head is isnt for pwar exclusive

saw it on pala just now

[meager quail]

Breaking a shield over your head is bad for your health. Head injuries bad. Don’t do it.

[loud citrus]

thank you

[warm plinth]

I have zugged at gym today

[lean aurora]

Threechest.io has no routes (yet). Where are y'all studying up?

[lusty grotto]

nowhere

cause keys arent starting tomorrow

[lean aurora]

I see.

[lusty grotto]

and even then ill press w until i see the timer being a problem

[lean aurora]

I aspire to that level of confidence.

[meager quail]

Frigging hero ❤️

[loud citrus]

is versatility a good hotspot if you play protection in m+ and fury in raids?

[lusty grotto]

no

[loud citrus]

cele+crit?

[lusty grotto]

i assume "cele" is haste

[loud citrus]

sorry

yes

[lusty grotto]

haste + whatever sims best

[loud citrus]

it depends if i sim as fury or prot i guess...

[lusty grotto]

what do you mean, youre asking in prot chat

[mighty valley]

It's ok to optimize stats for dps so long as your haste is a prio

[loud citrus]

the thing is that mastery is best for fury but worst for prot

[mighty valley]

Mastery is fine

[lusty grotto]

mastery being worst does not mean you avoid it

[coarse bay]

If youre dpsing for raid, it’s generally the right call to gear for raid and just deal with worse stats for prot

It wont hinder you so much that you arent clearing vaults

[lusty grotto]

yup

[loud citrus]

my raid is a chill one just do HC. and in M+ i pretend to go harder.

[uncut burrow]

FWIW, mastery does provide some AP increase as well

[lusty grotto]

yes

which is why we dont avoid it

it has lesser prio, but it does not mean you instantly sell or disenchant if it drops

[lofty warren]

secondary soft caps when?

[lusty grotto]

either way Ilvl > all for both specs (and arms)

[hallow sentinel]

whos a good concent creator that goes over M+ important casts and basic routes nowadays? Used to use Quazii's for first week but hes gone 🙁

[lusty grotto]

tettles

usually does dungeon vids

should work for general info

[loud citrus]

i see Topicx, dont know how good he is. but have good content

[lofty warren]

dorki if he does a M+ videa and he is maining a tank. otherwise all you get is RDPS POV nonsence

[lusty grotto]

topicx is good yeah

plus hes in the channel

[hallow sentinel]

Dont think Tettles has any up yet for midnight sadly. I will check Topicx out though, thanks

[lusty grotto]

and can answer questions

i dont think dorki does dungeon guides

[lofty warren]

idk for tank mains its slim pickins. maybe yodatv

[hallow sentinel]

Honestly miss Quazii quite a bit. His plater profiles always work really well for my liking

[lusty grotto]

theyre not asking for MDI content creators pepega

they are asking for guides

[hallow sentinel]

Trying Jundies out for the nameplate profile but I dunno, something feels off about them

[lusty grotto]

it is a shame what happened

but

its probably for the best he took time off

[solid sun]

Dude didn't seem super well

[lusty grotto]

a few friends of mine use jundies, they havent had issues

[solid sun]

Hope he's doing well now

[lofty warren]

jundies makes yt stufff? they have the best plater profile so I trust

[lusty grotto]

we're talking about nameplate profiles

[lofty warren]

jundies nameplates are best

easy

[solid sun]

I have a question about UI

[coarse bay]

Fan of jundies, im used to the colors from using it all of tww

[hallow sentinel]

@lusty grotto its not bad, just felt like it was missing some important mobs. BUT it might be because the m0s so far were full of dungeons not in M+ and that isn't his focused

[lusty grotto]

make sure you update

[coarse bay]

Nameplate addons dont have the options they used to

[lofty warren]

they are german. thats all you need to know. they overengineered and are super meticulus about that shit

[lusty grotto]

constantly

[solid sun]

I'm using the hijack ui that nim had recommended, and as you keep everything updated if you open up the wago addon in-game it'll show you what's up to date on your list and what's in need of a fresh import. Everytime I import elvui the changes I switched around get reverted. Is there any getting around that?

[lusty grotto]

constantly update

hijack uses jundies

[coarse bay]

All the profile does is size, change looks, and color according to what blizzard provides. There’s no advantage to any profile

[lusty grotto]

for nameplate profiles

[tight mural]

What do you use?

[lusty grotto]

naowh

but not free

[ivory barn]

@lusty grotto from that earlier topic, I basically wasted 12 points in "long blades" supposedly

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats a riparooni

[coarse bay]

Afaik, not when they fully reinstall the profile like that, that’s why i try not to use those kinds and make my own when i feel like it

[lusty grotto]

the closest thing to naowh and aui ive seen is hijack, but hijack uses jundies profile for nameplates

the closest free thing

[hallow sentinel]

arghh, I saw a really nice ignore pain tracker with Arc UI that changes color and everything depending on your ignore pain amount. I really want that but also really dont want the whole arc ui package

[lusty grotto]

[hallow sentinel]

but seeing more and more content creator going the arc ui route

[lusty grotto]

not the IP talk again

[untold lark]

Hello, how does pwar damage compare to other specs after the buffs? is it looking to be among the top damaging tanks?

[solid sun]

I'm too rhino to do that

[lusty grotto]

just when i thought we would have a while before the next comment/question

[lofty warren]

using jundies plater and a highly modified kiratv for the rest (which itself uses other addons

[lusty grotto]

hard to say without sim updating

[hallow sentinel]

? I am just talking about weakaura bar to track it

[lusty grotto]

dont track it

[solid sun]

You can use cdm to track it, but we don't recommend tracking IP

[daring marlin]

I love tracking my ip

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fresh-prince-uncle-phil

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/air-swim-cat-gif-25752697

[lusty grotto]

gonna make me post the IP thing

[hallow sentinel]

Guess I am out of the loop, why would we not track ignore pain

[lusty grotto]

get fucked by the wall of text guilford

but seriously thats all the info

hope it helps (not guilford)

[solid sun]

If you're curious why there's some amount of aggro involved in this, it's because we end up going over this daily. Of course, most people don't come here all the time to see it so when they arrive and ask about tracking IP, none of them would realize they just sent people spiraling.

[lusty grotto]

daily?

[cerulean tusk]

Mods, NimAI is out of wack again! Moooooooooooods!

[lusty grotto]

this has been a thing since IP was created in legion

except every start of the season

there's a million of questions over it

[cerulean tusk]

Why did you make a tweetlonger for IP?

[lusty grotto]

i suppose there's a billion now because Blizzard got rid of WA

[cerulean tusk]

this the new copy pasta?

[solid sun]

Do you not think it's daily?

It feels like we talk about it daily

[lusty grotto]

maybe, but certainly had a period this past week where we didnt have any questions over it

[cerulean tusk]

I dont believe that

Well, if by period, you mean "maybe 12 hours"

I will give you it

[strange cove]

do i need to learn wing chun to use ip properly

[lusty grotto]

you shouldnt, cause im feelcrafting

i just dont remember any questions about it since last week

[daring marlin]

Ahhh, Legion. When IP absorbed 90%.

good times

[lusty grotto]

for a whole half of a patch too!

[cerulean tusk]

Maybe they should make IP a full 100% absorb, make HPS go big

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[hallow sentinel]

its interesting, I didn't know about this. Just from observing a lot of tanks do beta M+, they never let Ignore Pain drop ever so its just something I assume we should keep a minimum buff up thus a basic tracker

[daring marlin]

?

[lusty grotto]

a correctly played prot war will have it up naturally

[warm plinth]

You'll have IP up the vast majority of the time by properly playing