protection

[lusty grotto]

kinda convinced at this point that content creators are sandbagging prot paladin so hard

[solid sun]

Are they made of paper or no

[lofty warren]

Brew > pwar = bear > vdh > ppal > 💩 >= bdk. My bad, i made bdk equal poop. Now is thay right for m+?

[solid sun]

No

[sharp gale]

I doubt rwf guilds would level almost 0 prot pal on their tank players for sandbag

[solid sun]

Maybe they're leveling them in secret

Or maybe ppal shines in m+ specifically

[sharp gale]

Maybe it’s just their ret player who will tank if it becomes really needed

[lusty grotto]

but also the most important one

hella based pin

[sharp gale]

W kate

[lusty grotto]

W

[undone beacon]

W

[lofty warren]

Those nerfs are only to moh hero talent i believe so you can go shadow pan untouched

[sharp gale]

Last time I was active in peak it was abelito who wrote those

Time has passed

[lusty grotto]

thats what they are saying yea

[sharp gale]

I dislike harmony hero talent, I hated it on mw in S2

[toxic pewter]

dont they all play shadowpan anyway

or maybe not im not even sure

[sharp gale]

Idk they are usually similar power but diff usage for brew, except S1 it was just shadowpan

[undone beacon]

It’s shadopan actually

smh

https://tenor.com/view/xlov-wumuti-rui-wow-world-of-warcraft-gif-15072705613206864583

[solid sun]

MoH was easier and mostly recommended iirc

But pretty even

[lusty grotto]

was it really

i kinda felt they both weren't too complex

[sharp gale]

Yeah it’s more on mistweaver it was more annoying

For me

[lofty warren]

Rotation mvoes 2 things around for brew between diff hero talents otherwise they can basically be ignored they are a passive so its just a tuning question

[raw parcel]

MoH was the one recommended until the tuning for giga damage tiger palms. Shadowpan was and is still solid though.

[lusty grotto]

yup i leveled as MoH

but in TWW i was Shadopan

[heavy sparrow]

Kinda noticed since season 1 TWW too

[solid sun]

Sub 10%

Then I'm finally caught up with Harrow

[solid sun]

Hit 90 inside the last dungeon of the campaign

Flawless planning

[lusty grotto]

im having this crazy fucking thing happening with my mouse in this expansion where my mouse just stops moving while looking around with the camera

its not frequent

but its driving me insane

and it only happens in WoW

[vital sinew]

Right click on invisible frames?

[lusty grotto]

i thought that initially

but it happens right clicking anywhere

and i did move shit around just in case

[vital sinew]

You try disabling addons?

Might be a binding taint

[lusty grotto]

i havent yet tbh

but its worth a try if it keeps happening, i just reset all my mouse cvars to default values and it hasnt happened

[vital sinew]

If its fixed its fixed.

Just like my patchwork bullshit

[lusty grotto]

right but like i mentioned its not frequent

so we will see

[ebon geyser]

What does this patch notes mean to us

[vivid orchid]

buffs

[ebon geyser]

In what aspect? Dmg?surv? Trying to learn on what im seeing

[snow tapir]

Less damage taken, more damage done

[lusty grotto]

no

more damage done, thats it

we didnt need defensive buffs, and the 10% DR was just moved around

from r1 to r4

[snow tapir]

Yeah okay what was the point then

[lusty grotto]

the point of what

[snow tapir]

R1 to r4

[lusty grotto]

r1 is gonna be loaded with shit with the addition of the extra damage from TC

so they opted to just move it up so its not such a fat pick

its right there in their commentary

[snow tapir]

That's boring

Oh well free damage increase I guess

Yippee

[lusty grotto]

not free, we needed the buffs

[ebon geyser]

Where we lacking damage? Like overall?

[lusty grotto]

just in comparison with other outlier tanks like bear and brew

but bear got nerfed

and brew as well

so tanks are closer in damage output now

prot pally got nothing
vdh got buffed damage
bdk db got buffed damage
we got buffed damage

[ionic fern]

Good thing Execute is back to normal. Oh,wait.

[bleak breach]

Least it makes builds easy Mwahi

Just avoid anything execute related 😭

[ionic fern]

Almost.
But not really.
Just makes Execute really wonky to prioritize.

[cerulean tusk]

I still see no real value to put execute on my bars
Exe do hit 10% harder tho

[jagged pier]

But so does everything else

So it still the same we dont really press it outside of thane st

And even then its like hard to prio pressing it

[cerulean tusk]

Yeah, but it does hit 10% harder tho

[drowsy comet]

The bear is finally in the zoo. We did it boys!

[vernal storm]

god bless that spec was a crime against god humanity and anime in general

[drowsy comet]

Yea fuck that bear, but to be fair, everybody knew it wont survive this long while being totally broken

[frosty holly]

Shocked they didn't nerf guardians Lay on Hands heal they can toss often also

Guess it don't matter much for raiding. But felt very strong in M0 when i tried guardian

[drowsy comet]

they already broke all their bones, wanna amputate their hands now too

[jagged pier]

arent u druid enjoyer tho

[hallow sentinel]

Sorry if this has already been answered. Theres no way we take R4 phalanx right? So this patch is just basically we lose 5% DR for 10% damage?

[jagged pier]

aloso Lakie

[frosty holly]

Haha, fair

[jagged pier]

i mean I was running it anyway cause what else u puting it into?

4 apex talents is even more damage than not running them atm

cause what u gunna take shitting other talents that do next to nothing

[hallow sentinel]

what do you drop? Tough as nails and indomitable are both really great

[jagged pier]

indom is not really good

[hallow sentinel]

and those seems to be the flex points

[vernal storm]

👋 hellooo

[jagged pier]

it got buff from being unplayable to nearly playable

if we had the rage gen from last expansion and the tier set from S3

maybe i would agree with u

but we dont

[hallow sentinel]

I mean, 10% HP sounds pretty solid for one point. Either way, what were the other two points you dropped? Got link to your tree?

[drowsy comet]

BDK and VDH they are looking quite sexy

[jagged pier]

we dont care about 10 at all otherwise we would gem and enchant stam

this isnt classic

[hallow sentinel]

I mean I agree with you that its the weakest point on the tree of most popular prot warrior builds, but its not nothing. And we have to lose two more points on top of that, I am just curious what other points you also dropped

[frosty holly]

My only downside with BDK has always been how they are truly wheelchair. With me running lots of M+ it hurts going from any of the other tanks to DK 💔

[jagged pier]

i run this

and will pretty much alwasy run this

[hallow sentinel]

thanks!

[jagged pier]

if u need more defensives then u just swap blodsurge for BSV

but u wont need BSV until very high keys

[hallow sentinel]

damn, no last stand?

[jagged pier]

why do u need LS ?

its tied to SW

so its even worse than before

[errant lake]

bsv is cozy though

[jagged pier]

LS was only good as a reactive thing

now its attached to something u should use premtively

its pointless

yes im going to use my CD that stops me dying

and make it even better even tho its already really strong and does its job

there will be no tank buster in the game for 99.9% of ppl probably 100% of ppl

that has been tuned around need SW+ the 30% LS HP

if u need to be more defensive u take bsv as that actually does eomthing

and can be used at a different time to SW

[hallow sentinel]

I just find it very comfy, especially since I pug a lot and I guess I like having more control over my situation

[jagged pier]

but SW does that

[hallow sentinel]

yes but the reactive hp has been pretty nice

[jagged pier]

right but u should never use SW reactively

thats not how the CD is designed to be used

u have IV as a reactive heal anyway

on a much shorter cd

which heals 5% less than LS

[frosty holly]

Same build for all content Jakey? Might use it. I noticed i still had Execute cleave even tho i haven't been using it much in Midnight

[jagged pier]

execute is dead

and thats for m+

[frosty holly]

Cheers

[hallow sentinel]

I understand your point, having more self healing options just feel really nice. I will try your build without LS though and see how it goes. Kinda moot with m0s right now either way

[icy yarrow]

you don't need healing if the dmg is not going through

[hallow sentinel]

In perfect runs sure. But with BSV, LS+SW, IV, healthstone, health pot. I feel like I can tank everything near forever without a healer. I feel like I am sacrificing a lot here for Phalanx 4. But I dunno, I also feel like prot warrior is so damn tanky in comparison to my guardian and brew already it probably doesn't hurt as much

[frosty holly]

How often are you losing your healer if you have to think about being without one for longer than gathering a pull takes tho 😄

[jagged pier]

i mean coming from someone (me) who actually pressed LS more than most ppl when it was still its own button, i dont understand why lots of guides etc now take it

its lost what made it good

and i actually know i press it more than most because i check ppl logs

[jagged pier]

but thats all 'feely' which is valid but nothing hurts atm so its confirmation bias

if u want to play those talents nothing is going to stop u

thats fine

but u are using your CD wrong

in pugs u should know which mobs and pulls are going to cause issues

and press SW becaue u know theres going to be an issue

[frosty holly]

With howl nerf do we even bother taking it or do we go shorter zerker rage or just Intimidating ?

[jagged pier]

instead of wait for the issue

espeically as its what like 1min and bit CD

ppl also under use SW in general

[jagged pier]

u always went shorter zerker

and piercing

but that being said the shorter zerker must be bait cause it barely actual;ly breaks or removes any slows

in dungeons

but imma run intim

in most dungeon

another stop is a another stop

[frosty holly]

Oo, could i have a pic of your general tree? I never bothered taking short zerk. Wonder what i have instead

[jagged pier]

piering can be good to gather but u also have leap and charge so

[frosty holly]

At 30 sec piercing felt ok. But with them making it 90 I doubt I'll bother

[jagged pier]

im running this

may change field dressing and pain and gain for shorter shockwave and honed

but eh

field dressing and pain and gain are flex points anyway

and as i said fearless seems like bait to me

So maybe move that too

Need someone with a big spread sheet to tell me what is clears cause to me in m0s it cleared nothing

[median torrent]

Surprised no Intervene Jakey

Intervene is so goated

[jagged pier]

Theres nothing to intervene

And now theres not dr cap

Stormbolt one is just far better

[median torrent]

Ngl I press that button on cooldown basically on the melee standing next to me

It’s off the GCD why not

[jagged pier]

But thats doesnt do anything

[frosty holly]

It's a whole point wasted tho Koov

[jagged pier]

Like just itnervening doesnt do anything

[median torrent]

On big pulls I think you guys are underselling it

[jagged pier]

What has big pulls got to do with anything?

Its literally only stops melees

To that target

[frosty holly]

Pure ranged attacks also no?

[jagged pier]

I suppose

Like sure if u have the hero talent it does somthing

But stopping 2 casts with stormbolt will do more than that shield on a big pull

[frosty holly]

But ye. Still don't see it being terribly useful. Any random ranged attack dmg healer will deal with. THey shouldn't be getting any rando melee

[jagged pier]

Well its why u los big pulls so every clumps

[median torrent]

Not to mention the mobility it opens up. Idk. I’m a big fan

Could be a wasted point but w/e half the points feel wasted and Intervene atleast feels cool

[jagged pier]

I aint gunna stop u running it

[frosty holly]

Mobility as in the few times somebody is ahead of you? Or using it to return to group after gather?

[jagged pier]

But outside of SLs and the one time we had necrotic wake in dungeon rotation i aint running it

There may be some big ones this season, but u have to weight up stopping that 1 hit which can be covered another way or stopping lots of other things over the course of a key / u having slightly better talents (imo)

[median torrent]

It also removes roots/snares

Which is nuts

For magisters terrace or dino boss in harandar dungeon

Idk. It doesn’t feel anymore “wasted” than some of the other points but I hear what y’all are saying

[jagged pier]

I mean u just stack on the kncokback

And go back the boss and cleave the roots down

[ebon geyser]

Has the items to craft change? We still making weapon and shield?

[lone hemlock]

they actually did hotfix it.

[toxic pewter]

I made a weapon and will make a shield next week personally

[solid sun]

I hit 90 last night APB

[toxic pewter]

Hell yeah grats

[solid sun]

Soon we can own the noobs together

[toxic pewter]

Just let know anytime

[solid sun]

Bro I was not anticipating 1100 quests to show up at 90

[toxic pewter]

Yah it’s actually kinda crazy midnight has a lot of content so far if I say so myself

I was surprised a bit

[solid sun]

For sure

[rose sphinx]

guys we taking 4/4 apex now?

[drowsy comet]

Idk why but something itches me to try out healer (?) I saw this one Preservation Evoker, and these visuals look sick ngl, but at the same time Im a tank main sigh lots of thinking 😭

[toxic pewter]

can still be tank and have a healer alt

i have a holy priest that is actually a lot of fun

[drowsy comet]

Im just curious about how healing feels, idk why but this Pres Evoker really seemed chill, follow group, heal tank, aoe heal dps. Dont get me wrong, tanking is very fun and I definetly like it, but just out of curiousity healing looks alot more chill depending on what content u do

[toxic pewter]

yeah healing actually is chill

can just follow the tank for once when you tired of leading others

every now and then its a nice reprieve

highly recommend you try it

[drowsy comet]

rn looking what all healers look like in gameplay, resto shaman and druid look cool, druid especially with this tree form lol

[toxic pewter]

resto shaman is a great starter healer

[solid sun]

I think playing other roles makes you better at the role you were already playing

[toxic pewter]

100%

[sharp gale]

Chill and some random stress peak, I like it.

[drowsy comet]

im seeing the Haranir class perks, god dam

i shouldnt think this much on a Saturday lmao...

sigh

[buoyant sparrow]

Biggest question: do Haranir wear shoes?

[cunning inlet]

Shoes are for the weak.

[sharp gale]

I guess it’s like nelf, mine don’t

[buoyant sparrow]

What?!?!? We are civilized!

[sharp gale]

My name is Australian, so half my chars walk barefoot everywhere

[toxic pewter]

Yes

[daring marlin]

rsham buffs

[toxic pewter]

yah they seem to be in a solid position

XD

[sharp gale]

[toxic pewter]

Omg u got me. LOL

[sand condor]

oh lord

are we cooking with these updates?

do we outclass bear?

[toxic pewter]

unfortuantely bear got orbital nuked from space

[sand condor]

gues who is about to hi 90 on their bear alt

[tribal wharf]

so id brew sort of

-50% dmg buff to "shield slam"

single target i mean

[toxic pewter]

yeah brew still everyone saying wil lbe meta

[sand condor]

but what will stand beside it

WILL IT BE US

im wondering why they did not even touch prot pally

[tribal wharf]

as long as its never shadowlands again

F tier

i had a green shield

SHITTY FUCKIN DU NGEONS

uhhh, the maw super depressing, for being purgatory

SHITTY FUCKIN RAIDS

[agile elbow]

Bear is still going to be good and have high fan damage they just won’t out damage regular dps now

[tribal wharf]

bad"u have to be on our side and ONLY our side" at the start choice between 4 groups

get punished early on for switch

[sand condor]

yeah thats what i was looking at while playing dungeons, on big pulls i can just top meters

[toxic pewter]

brewmaster dodged any and all nerfs

[buoyant sparrow]

So I loved Prot last season (did very well in Undermine). Are we more or less the same?

[tribal wharf]

IH ATE HOW PPAL DONT HAVE CHARGE 😠

same bdk

[urban bane]

I imagine Nome is on a beach somewhere having the time of his life

[tribal wharf]

no, da and horse dont count

[rocky briar]

Wdym?

[sharp gale]

Gameplay wise basically yes

[buoyant sparrow]

We still pretty tanky. Talents still work the same. Rotation around the same. Not anything crazy like brew changes.

[kind talon]

With avengers shield the mobs come to you

[tribal wharf]

i hate how for anything besides warrior fear is "well guess ill die now" for tanks

[cerulean tusk]

I mean, you could just interupt that one cast

Also, fbm, not mentioning BDK in your rant

[sharp gale]

And bdk can cancel stuns and fears

[rocky briar]

Ah from that perspective, ye we are basically the same

Nothing crazy

[tribal wharf]

damnit

i had loot set to holy somehow

so now i have int trinket

this wq is CLEARLY broken

completion is just code lol

wait, maybe not, goldenmist capstone 1/3? wtf

[urban bane]

Oh hm. Is TaN just not simming correctly

[jagged pier]

no it is

[warm plinth]

Well, you only get hit like once every 2 seconds or something in sims

[urban bane]

for a 5 target patchwerk

this seems low given what TaN was giving in m0 clears and etc

[warm plinth]

Can you link the sim

[urban bane]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uXuohVj8oWANz2nMm3E3Dc

[warm plinth]

Yeah it only procced 67 times

[urban bane]

Doesn't bear much resemblance to reality

[warm plinth]

No, but sims aren't really set up to simulate something like that

[undone beacon]

I don’t think all five targets in the patchwerk sim are “attacking”

[warm plinth]

The only reason you get hit at all is for like trinkets that proc on being hit and stuff

[urban bane]

I mean I get it but... it'd be nice to know the damage gain in AoE compared to other options, no?

To say it is simming correctly is a bit inaccurate

[warm plinth]

Yeah idk, it's not a prot-specific thing though. It's just how the fight style is set up in simcraft

[urban bane]

Yeah ofc

[warm plinth]

Could be there's a way to force it to trigger TaN at a custom interval, but idk how

[urban bane]

Just an important caveat for people to be aware of

[warm plinth]

Agreed

[drowsy comet]

https://youtu.be/QDaQpYNyf94?si=7mWBAVZ4mV1J7Ydx Quazzi returned LOL

From WoW creator, to a pokemon creator

what a wild lore lmao

[warm plinth]

If you figure 3138 per hit x5 with a 1.5 sec swing timer, you're looking at about 10.5k dps from TaN compared to the 704 it says in that sim. Definitely a significant difference

That's using your numbers, not generally speaking

[jagged pier]

minmaxing a chill harvesting game

[dusky canopy]

This is the way

[drowsy comet]

[dusky canopy]

[opal hound]

So I've been slowly gearing up since launch and I'm up to ilvl 227. I'm ready to do a bunch of mythic dungeons, but of course as tank I feel I should know the new dungeons better first. So I'm wasting time running dungeons in normal mode or even follower mode so I learn what I'm doing.

Does anyone else do this?

[warm plinth]

I'm sure a lot of people do. Not sure if you know but there's also a new affix this season for low keys that will basically show you a way (not what will likely be the proper way) to get full count going through a dungeon.

[jagged pier]

nope just w

its all fine

[undone beacon]

M0s are the technically the hardest content right now, but they’re not that bad. You can practice in normals if you want but at the end of the day you just gotta get in there and run em

It’s a new expansion and nobody really knows shit, just learn as you go like most people are

If you pull extra, whoops who cares

[tribal wharf]

no keystones until, 24th

ya?

[undone beacon]

Correct

[warm plinth]

Correct

https://tenor.com/bocWF.gif

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/free-smiley-faces-de-smile-dance-happy-emoji-gif-16168751

[warm plinth]

What's he responding to in that gif though is the real question

[tribal wharf]

does the mounts from 12 month sub count towards collection LOL

cuz, i mean

i will have to be subscribed

bought on 26th 27th

and the entire goal of me playing wow rn is basically, 2k, 3k io, see what happens there, do some raid

so, i'll get like 3 days most to do keys on epic edition time

[agile elbow]

MoH got nerfed though?

[toxic pewter]

meh

[blissful fable]

crit haste mastery vers still the prio?

[azure valley]

prot war +12% dmg right?

[mighty valley]

Yes

[undone beacon]

Haste/Crit prio

[tribal wharf]

im 330/350

[azure valley]

what where the numbers?

[undone beacon]

Mast/vers are fine but around equal

[blissful fable]

ok ty

[tribal wharf]

i need 350 mount real bad

[undone beacon]

Last I saw, according to Nim who does a lot of sim work it’s around a 10% overall buff

[azure valley]

Nice! he has a spreadsheat or something?

[undone beacon]

There will likely be something pinned soon

[tribal wharf]

forgive me if im big stupid right

but im looking for belt and weapon

reknown

i know i got a helmet and a something else

probably

i cant seem to see anything like that for reknown

veteran i mean, purple

[dusky canopy]

No weapon from renown

Belt is the bat people

[warm plinth]

Are they the night?

[tribal wharf]

the wat

bat man?

[dusky canopy]

B A T people

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/bqbvH.gif

[tribal wharf]

batman

im batman

[nova gorge]

Hello, new Prot Warrior here. How often do we leave defensive stance in favor of battle stance? Is it only situationally, or do you macro it into popping avatar / offensives?

[tribal wharf]

i am the justice of the night

[warm plinth]

Basically never leave defensive stance

[undone beacon]

Basically never

[warm plinth]

Outside of parsing in raid

[dusky canopy]

You don’t need to use battle stance

It’s just for more dps

[undone beacon]

You can go bstance if you want to try and parse monkey in raid while off tanking

[tribal wharf]

i have this

[nova gorge]

Got it, thanks!

[tribal wharf]

i dunno what a bat person is

i know batman is cool

[dusky canopy]

Renown 8 with bat people

Get a belt

[warm plinth]

I stopped even binding stances when they made defensive automatically happen on login during TWW

[tribal wharf]

right, i still have no god damn clue what bat ppl is

i dont remember this stuff

haranar?

[undone beacon]

Yes

[warm plinth]

Haranir, yes

[undone beacon]

Hara’ti

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-simon-cowell-britain's-got-talent-bravo-well-done-gif-13554824652247635900

[tribal wharf]

so, about that

[warm plinth]

You're doing great

[tribal wharf]

so, ya

thats about it

if they really are bat ppl

[dusky canopy]

The flight form is a bat

They are bat people

[tribal wharf]

blizzard could do the funniest thing ever by add some "batman" crazy guy from that tribe super strong and smart fights dudes

[undone beacon]

Uhm actually they are not related to bats they are related to trolls 🤓

[warm plinth]

Yeah but you aren't gonna call them troll people

[undone beacon]

Why not

[warm plinth]

Because that's too general

[undone beacon]

Hairy trolls

[dusky canopy]

They literally turn into bats and have bat ears

[tribal wharf]

troll is one of the better races for competitive i think, mega haste button

[dusky canopy]

Did you see the cutscene

Hello?

Bat people

[nova gorge]

Another virgin Prot question: Is there any issue with having Shield Slam & Shield Block macroed together? I was considering doing SB+IP, but figured it's probably better to not have double spenders bound together.

[undone beacon]

I’m a bat denier

[undone beacon]

Don’t do that

We don’t macro things together as new prot warriors

[sharp gale]

Why turn into druid rat form if bat people

[undone beacon]

#1 way to be rage starved, which is a prot death sentence

[dusky canopy]

You want a stand alone Shield slam bind
And then you can also macro shield slam into the bind you hit for ignore pain and the bind you hit for shield block, this way you will never miss a reset that happens when your mind is focused on keystroking the other binds

[undone beacon]

Maybe this is a personal hot take but I don’t like recommending the ip macro for new people

I feel like if you have to over explain it like that, it’s not conducive to learning the spec

[dusky canopy]

It has zero down side other than you shied slam sometimes when you are preventing rage cap with ip

[nova gorge]

I'd rather start practicing how I will be playing now, to get the muscle memory for it while things are easy.

[warm plinth]

It has zero downside, except the downside

peak brew truth nugget

[dusky canopy]

zero

[warm plinth]

But realistically that's not a downside because you put IP before the SS

[nova gorge]

To be clear, I'm not a new player - coming over as a Prot Paladin main, just want to know what I should / could be doing better. I understand there will be a lot of nuance. I appreciate any and all advice ❤️

[undone beacon]

Yeah but then I watch people try to use that to justify making more macros and instead of “don’t macro just learn the rotation first” it’s “one macro with a rotational impact that doesn’t actually save you a bind and here’s a paragraph as to why to use it”.

[undone beacon]

New player as in new to prot warr I should say

[warm plinth]

The only downside of the macro is actually gone now since you can't spend outburst on TC anymore

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_L04BPyxYo

[jagged pier]

Classic yogi derail

[tribal wharf]

batman has so much fucking aura it is incalcuable.

[jagged pier]

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

[warm plinth]

Batman is the most overrated comic book hero ever created.

[dusky canopy]

The maple boomer exclaiming aura

[undone beacon]

Like I’m not denying the use of the macro it’s just a lot more convoluted than setting them in their way with a “don’t fuck with prot macros”, but maybe that’s a disservice

[tribal wharf]

its better than superman

[undone beacon]

Yogi my beloved

[tribal wharf]

if you dont think batman is awesome you are stupid

thats my thoughts

[warm plinth]

I don't think that's a scientifically proven statement

[undone beacon]

@nova gorge The long and short of it is the only macro that we care about in terms of rotation is IP + SS, but that is used as your IP bind and doesn’t replace SS.

[dusky canopy]

No (zero) reason not to use the ip with shield slammacro to snipe resets on shield slam

[tribal wharf]

in part, its tim burton who carried alot of that movie

with danny elfman for the music

[undone beacon]

And don’t macro shield block to anything

[tribal wharf]

and danny devito as penguin, and i think this is the one with arny as mr freeze

[warm plinth]

Yeah, there's no downside for the macro anymore. It's gone

And even when there was a downside, it was fairly minor

[nova gorge]

Thanks!

[undone beacon]

The downside is having to type out a paragraph and my itty bitty little thumbs get tired

[daring marlin]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

[tribal wharf]

Do not track IP.
Do not macro IP.

That is all.

if you do these things you are du mb

[undone beacon]

That’s wrong bro

Stop

Cease

We just had a whole conversation about the IP macro

I’m going crazy

[dusky canopy]

I specifically track my ignore pain in 3 locations on screen and press it below 70 rage on cd

[sharp gale]

Batman is cool char bc it is a movie I watched when I didn’t watch a lot of movie yet (kid)

[daring marlin]

NEVER CHANGE PROT CHAT YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST

[warm plinth]

Brew pressing IP is just that gif of the guy sweating balls at his desk

[tribal wharf]

but do u have an audio alert for when its high and low

[undone beacon]

Where’s that image of the guys Ui that’s all IP

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/bvegS.gif

[tribal wharf]

u can add weak aura with sounds

[undone beacon]

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-epic-gamer-sweatyspeedrunner-gif-22461398

DAMN IT YOU BEAT ME

[warm plinth]

REKT NERD

[dusky canopy]

Me holding it together reading the fucking arms “balance”

[daring marlin]

FUUUUUUUUUUU

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/so-pissed-im-work-mad-gif-23416426

[sharp gale]

Arms true balance would perturb rwf too much, they are waiting

[dusky canopy]

They keep arms damage low because the wimpy lil wizards can’t handle the size of our swords

[tribal wharf]

is arms still dooming?

[jagged pier]

Its funny they are simming less than we were before the buffs

[tribal wharf]

i sent arms one of these last night

[undone beacon]

Rhino said arms is bis now sorry

[warm plinth]

Rhino is always right

[sharp gale]

Sword eater

F

[undone beacon]

Me when psychic link tuning

That’s my favorite note because what a slash

60% -> 20%

[warm plinth]

They did that to blade flurry too

[sharp gale]

Me when just fury buff

[warm plinth]

I think it's been walked back somewhat but it was like 50% down to 25% or something

[dusky canopy]

A whopping 74k ST!! Gaming!!
Lets slap 15% on that + some crayon dust for the apex and call it a day fck it we ball

[daring marlin]

ret owns

the real 2H str class

unholy deadge

[sharp gale]

Ret is wow main character sidekick

It has to be the cool guy

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/livasmol-loading-cat-smol-gif-6810651202878211592

[tribal wharf]

apparently PH getting gutted

[dusky canopy]

Dev deciding arms balance ^

[sharp gale]

Mage is the main char, they have a spell named after John Blizzard

[undone beacon]

My favorite mage spell, John

[daring marlin]

LMAOOOOO

Arms always getting the shit end of the stick

as is tradition

[dusky canopy]

I’ll say it again

[warm plinth]

Piercing Howl was trash as it was; it's hilarious they felt the need to nerf it

[dusky canopy]

Whoever develops arms can identify window type by the taste

[warm plinth]

Like compared to other things that are similar, it was shit

[daring marlin]

PvP's fault

[warm plinth]

100%

[sharp gale]

Arms dev is busy with ww monk and rogue

[warm plinth]

Snare + speed boost was too strong for PvP so now it's just utterly ass in PvE

[dusky canopy]

Isn’t that realz

I feel like that guy can cook

Idk what is going on with the person doing warrior work

[sharp gale]

I still believe it is more a team doing all tuning than 1 person on 3 classes

And not full time obviously bc who would pay someone to do 40h/w class tuning

[ebon geyser]

Always have been.. unless unlisten to dorki..smh

[undone beacon]

That was 4 hours ago

you crazy

[ebon geyser]

Ohh...

Lmao I just woke up

[undone beacon]

Welcome back to the waking world

[ebon geyser]

Thanks

[tribal wharf]

i was asking that cuz i know that store mount doesnt count

[ebon geyser]

Pash always so wholesome

[undone beacon]

[ebon geyser]

[daring marlin]

true

[bronze crypt]

Apologies if this has been posted to death, but is anyone else getting the bug where Shield Slam "resets", but the cooldown doesnt actually reset? It lights up like you got a reset, but is still on cooldown.

[undone beacon]

Are you using ArcUI?

I recall that being an issue with that addon specifically

[drowsy comet]

😔

[solid sun]

This is my favorite counter joke

Masterfully done

[mighty valley]

Does Burst of Power also give the ss glow

Been a while since I played thane

[undone beacon]

It doesnt

[sharp gale]

I think every ss resets make it glow

[undone beacon]

If it does then I've missed it every time but

[drowsy comet]

damn OW is easy lmao

[kind talon]

10% damage buff? Ok ok

[solid sun]

Brew I was thinking about playing arms still

Because it got buffed

Is that a good idea?

[daring marlin]

Live your best life

I'm gonna do the same

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/instagram-oh-no-nazoom-18gEqArCQNlo5zowZn

damn looks sick

[undone beacon]

genji more like cringi amirite

gottem

[ebon geyser]

[drowsy comet]

Yerp

[ebon geyser]

lol

[spiral jetty]

genji has better dh customization than devourer

[jolly pumice]

bn+++/* bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbvvv

[worn forge]

guys im thinking of switching to prot I heard its the 2nd best dps spec for warrior rn??

[dusky canopy]

It’s always a good idea to play arms

[worn forge]

my question is I'm lvl 83 fury right now, do I keep leveling as fury or do I swtich to prot right away?

Im new to tanking and it would be nice to learn it on regular dungeons without all the pressure

[drowsy comet]

ive been saying that the past weeks

[spiral jetty]

pretty wild

[ebon geyser]

dont you only pvp ? i though u get yours from vendor

[toxic pewter]

nah I do pve also

[ebon geyser]

ahhh

[toxic pewter]

i usually start season only doing pve and then shift toward pvp

[drowsy comet]

wait wait

apb does pvp?

o.O

since when

[toxic pewter]

world pvp, solo shuffle, bg blitz

[sharp gale]

since we talked about honor kills achievements he is slaughtering ppl in voidstorm

[toxic pewter]

got legend, stratgeist

yeah i killed over 700 people yesterday

[drowsy comet]

ahh

[toxic pewter]

working on bloodthirsty right now

need 70,000 more

[sharp gale]

i have random bg rush sometimes

[toxic pewter]

highly recommend u guys get into pvp its great times

since addons are not as much a thing (granted they sort of are) things are much more on a level playing field

[drowsy comet]

im already depressed, i dont think id enjoy it

[sharp gale]

idk each time i do BGs until im bored, to not touch pvp again for 2 months

[toxic pewter]

its not for everyone

[jagged pier]

Cant compete with number vulpera arms warrior

[toxic pewter]

but i see u playing bf and overwatch

that is pvp

[toxic pewter]

been playing fury now lately

[drowsy comet]

Vulpera should get skinned and removed from the game

[toxic pewter]

fury is ton of fun

[toxic pewter]

that comment just made me stronger

vulpera is my secret weapon

the rage fuels me...

makes my opponents weaker as well

[drowsy comet]

Vulpera is worse than Dractyhrs

[toxic pewter]

both are solid races

Dracthyr is badass in pvp

[ebon geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-john-cena-not-happening-i-hate-to-be-the-bearer-of-bad-news-that-will-not-happen-gif-6755838494321589001

[toxic pewter]

lol

fair enough

its goin down in slayers rise tho

[drowsy comet]

Dracthyr human form, yes

[rose karma]

so is prot getting a flat 10% aura buff with the nerfs to the apex talent?

[ebon geyser]

See then u say vulperas are good and I get tempted to click warmode

[toxic pewter]

ya 10%

[drowsy comet]

i have a fun fact for yall, but yall wouldnt like this very much

[toxic pewter]

apex talent isnt really nerfed

[rose karma]

nice

[toxic pewter]

just adjusted

they shifted thhe 5% dr to 4th node

so people cant just pop 1 point in apex and call it a day

[ebon geyser]

ppl need to stop listening to dorki like the gospel

[rose karma]

i figured it would get adjusted sooner or later, it seemed too packed into the first node

[toxic pewter]

yep

[ebon geyser]

we listen to out lord and savior Mwahi

[toxic pewter]

they proactively want people to use all 4 apex talent points

they even said it

[rose karma]

is this a prot content creator?

its so rare to see someone play prot

[ebon geyser]

he is the guide writter for icy veins

[drowsy comet]

the skin is literally called xalatath lol

[ebon geyser]

i mean we have @shut summit he plays prot and highly recommend. i dont know if he stills stream but watching him made me realize im human and he is not LOL

i dont know if @lusty grotto streams but also good prot guy

we have some ppl that are super knowledgeable

then u have apb that likes vulperas..

[toxic pewter]

[ebon geyser]

ty for making me spill my coffee

lol\

i wonder how many ppl you have made quit by being killed by a raccoon. actually thats smart

[toxic pewter]

that is wat peak warr look like in the year twenty twenty-six

[ebon geyser]

[solid sun]

Tails is a vulpera

Beloved sidekick

[mighty valley]

we need the apb copypasta

[drowsy comet]

lol found this randomly in my downloads xd

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/free-smiley-faces-de-smiley-emoji-happy-gif-16168886

[drowsy comet]

www.free-smiley.de

even german lmao

[solid sun]

Lol I play every day for hours. I hit 3k and aotc then go to PvP where I work to became the worlds highest rated vulpera arms warrior in solo shuffle
These days I spend my days world pvping if any of you have been in war mode in NA CHANCES are i have killed u
I am a very powerful individual
My /played is like 6 years or some shit

[toxic pewter]

whoever wrote that seems like a good inddividual

[sharp gale]

accurate german smile

[toxic pewter]

just killed 32 people in game

since i last typed

anyone NA want to come world pvp with me lmk

[drowsy comet]

we dont look that creepy

[ebon geyser]

and here i though you were eu lol

[toxic pewter]

heh naw

NA

[upbeat plover]

Freedom

[toxic pewter]

just watched a youtuber video and he said execute is bugged

and thats the reason why it isnt doing any good damage

is that real or fake news

[cerulean tusk]

I mean, you just need to look at the tooltip

[toxic pewter]

so it is bugged or wat

honestly just thought it was tuned poorly

[cerulean tusk]

If exe is doing worse than what tooltips say, it isnt just bad, is is worse than bad

So nah, prob not bugged, just bad dam

[toxic pewter]

youtuber said that it is bugged and isnt scaling with execute talents

feel like thats fake news yea

[cerulean tusk]

What execute talents?

[toxic pewter]

i guess the more target one

yeah i dunno just saying what he said

[cerulean tusk]

Come on

If exe aint worth on ST

It aint worth with more targets

[toxic pewter]

just not sure why he would say its bugged

[vast epoch]

Because most youtubers are just rando scrubs ?

[cerulean tusk]

Maybe there is a bug, but baseline execute is just bad

[toxic pewter]

yeah

I guess I was just curious if anyone was aware of a bug he goin on about

but yeah

[umbral ember]

Can you drop Booming Voice for Indomitable?

[cerulean tusk]

It aint bad cause it doesnt scale talents or whatever, it is bad cause the dam is tuned far too low

[cerulean tusk]

Dont do that

Booming is strong

[umbral ember]

True but on a 45 sec cd and indomitable is premanent tho

[tribal wharf]

some reason 2 sv hunters in group

[cerulean tusk]

Indom is just more HP, if you didnt get oneshot, it did nothing

Booming always is value

[umbral ember]

well its more hp + healing

[cerulean tusk]

Yeah, that healing doesnt scale well with content. It is at best neat to have during m0 keys if healer is afk

[umbral ember]

Okay thanks, ill stay with BV then 🙂

[cerulean tusk]

This please my brain now go so big dam

[umbral ember]

❤️

[undone beacon]

It seems every newer prot is desperate to take indom

[ebon geyser]

question, do we have someone that makes war vids like sha for monks, azortharion for hunters etc?

[undone beacon]

afaik not really

We need a prot content creator stat

[ebon geyser]

nim, sense

[cerulean tusk]

I take indom, you cant stop me

But I know I dont need to care about that jazz

I do what I want

[undone beacon]

I’m taking indom and all the execute talents

I make my own meta

[autumn topaz]

Healers I play with say they notice a huge difference with indom, vs without, at lower levels. But virtually no benefit last season after we start taking real dmg in big keys.

[undone beacon]

if indom is making a huge difference thats probably more indicative of the warrior doing a bad job

[cerulean tusk]

Nah, just a low content boon

But this is known

I already said this

[undone beacon]

What warrior is getting trucked in low content

[cerulean tusk]

Healers dont heal, and dam intake is low enough that you get some value from the low hps

[drowsy comet]

@undone beacon druid discord is different world than skyhold, jesus

[mighty valley]

I’m taking all the execute talents and then taking execute off my bars

It’s actually secretly optimal

Also on indom I’m guessing all these prot warriors are taking a lot of avoidable damage because people don’t know trash mechanics good yet

It’s obv not criminal to take as a crutch, just be real about what you’re dropping for it

[toxic pewter]

the people obsessed ith indom are trhe same ones obssessed with ip

its effectively all the same crap

some strange hangup within the mind that is perhaps impossible to overcome

[dusky canopy]

Rename ignore pain to die never

[summer bronze]

the apex changes, are the relevant?

[solid sun]

They took some power from the first point and added it to the last point to encourage 4/4

[bold sapphire]

Guys I finally leveled a prot pally (I’m a resto shaman main) - shit slaps hard

[cerulean tusk]

I dont feel that tho

[solid sun]

What don’t you feel

[cerulean tusk]

Encouraged to take 4/4

[solid sun]

🤷‍♂️

[cerulean tusk]

Does anyone?

[mighty valley]

Yes

[cerulean tusk]

Huh, well then they did it, I guess

[mighty valley]

Just saying “I don’t want 5% dr plus damage for one talent point” is kinda goofy

What else do you want to take instead

[cerulean tusk]

Indom

[mighty valley]

Ok you do you

[cerulean tusk]

10% max hp, with %healing, prob is a better buffer

[mighty valley]

Not taking the damage in the first place is our whole thing

[toxic pewter]

How impactful is the 5%dr any way

[cerulean tusk]

I already do that tho

[mighty valley]

It reduces the damage you take by 5%

What kinda question apb

[toxic pewter]

Do you think you feel the difference

[cerulean tusk]

No, you wont

[mighty valley]

No one FEELS shit in this game but it’s real anyway

Everyone just copes themselves into liking what they like

[toxic pewter]

I feel everything. That is my burden..

Some say my weakness is I care too much

[cerulean tusk]

Suuuuuure

[toxic pewter]

[mighty valley]

Wait do you feel everything or do you not feel 5% dr

Which is it

[cerulean tusk]

[toxic pewter]

Yes

[cerulean tusk]

[amber cargo]

Glad I picked prot warrior. I leveled a brew as well, but I just don't enjoy it at all. Don't like the playstyle for some reason.

[mighty valley]

Hell yeah

[toxic pewter]

[bold sapphire]

Yeah I leveled prot warrior, pally, and brew and warrior feels like nothing else in this game. Considering switching healer main to prot war this season

[amber cargo]

yeee

it's a good time

[compact prairie]

Sorry if this has already been asked recently with everyone talking about the tuning; how does Prot look to stack against Bear for raid? Trying to figure out my alt

[lusty grotto]

no idea

[small quail]

Pretty damn good

[lusty grotto]

thats a very broad question

and "pretty damn good" does not answer it

you have to be more specific

[compact prairie]

Let’s say damage then

[lusty grotto]

hard to say without simc being updated

[compact prairie]

(I haven’t studied the fights so I can’t be more specific than that atm yet)

[drowsy comet]

cant believe im actually saying it, but Im gonna be a resto druid very soon, what turned out js to be our of curiosity, is getting real. Gonna be one of these resto druids with the girliest girl Nightelfs, but behind the screen a hairy lil gup feeling bonita who wants to cooldown abit from tanking

In fact, I feel bonita

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-feel-bonita-family-guy-brian-chris-griffin-gif-7138818043935086646

[lusty grotto]

if the balance was to tie them up or close to in damage, then that's what we expect

tuning, not balance

[drowsy comet]

wild how prot didnt get touched at all outside of colossus

[compact prairie]

lol yeah that’s how I felt as prot pally main. Thank yall for the input

[lusty grotto]

wat

[drowsy comet]

In the developer notes

[mighty valley]

we got 10% damage

[lusty grotto]

huh?

what do you mean colossus

[drowsy comet]

am i tripping

[sharp gale]

you are

[lusty grotto]

10% damage + the 10% addition to phalanx applies to both hero specs

[drowsy comet]

i am tripping

i could have sworn that the only change for prot, was a small colossus damage buff

[sharp gale]

i finally installed that addon, im a scam warrior yes

[drowsy comet]

i should eat less from these rum chocolate balls lmao@mighty valley

[pastel geyser]

yo guys it the trinket form murder row 3rd boss not good? it sounds good from what im reading but its not even in the wowhead tierlist unless im blind and just dont see it

this one

or ig the dungeon is not in rotation? :D

[mighty valley]

It’s ok lil gup, by the time you finish school you’ll know how to read

[mighty valley]

it’s not gonna be in this m+ season

[pastel geyser]

Yea thought so

but otherwise when it is next season it looks pretty good

[mighty valley]

Sim question tbh, we’ll just have to compare when we get there

[pastel geyser]

is the voidstorm trinket worth getting? im still at renown 5 lol

cba doing sidequests

[mighty valley]

Idk I’m not gonna put a lot of effort into thinking about preseason gear haha

[pastel geyser]

fair enough

[undone beacon]

prot is hot, confirmed

[bold sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/ronnie-coleman-prot-warrior-tbc-wow-chad-class-gif-24723206

[solid sun]

I choose to believe abundance is a pve extraction mode

[mighty valley]

Yeah that’s prob the inspiration genre

[solid sun]

Should have given us a special abundance backpack so we can play inventory Tetris between deliveries

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/randy-orton-entrance-wwe-smack-down-wrestling-gif-18167036

[buoyant sparrow]

hows the new race for a warrior tank 🙂

[lusty grotto]

its whatever

same as all the other races, not dwarf or NE and totally your call

[drowsy comet]

tbh I havent seen any haranir warriors, most haranirs I see are either mages, druids (ironic) and one hunter

[solid sun]

Why is a haranir Druid ironic

[toxic pewter]

Haranir look pretty good and racials seem decent but not mind blowing to me

[drowsy comet]

Because they live in the forest, got unique forms, and have sone very druid like racials. The tree tp thing is cool af

[ebon geyser]

ok so why is it some folks macro IP to SS?

[tribal wharf]

cuz they have 14 iq

dont do it

[lusty grotto]

i think the important question is who are these folks

and do they understand how to use it

[tribal wharf]

don't macro most things, maybe macro like intervene, if you have a player you know can reliably positon for it

[buoyant sparrow]

for leveling do we run MT or Col?

[lusty grotto]

whichever

both are good

[tribal wharf]

both, col is chill, thane is mash buttonz

[drowsy comet]

glad mine is 15

[ebon geyser]

im just having a hard time sending ip at 70 rage

[tribal wharf]

I cant believe we live in a world

that +30 rage is good talent

[lusty grotto]

that macro is not gonna help you then

[tribal wharf]

amongst others

[violet oasis]

Has anyone found a good ignore pain meter or bar beyond the built in one?

[tribal wharf]

such as, intrevene shield is no longer good

[lusty grotto]

no we dont really track IP here

its not important

[violet oasis]

What is love?

[lusty grotto]

baby dont hurt me?

[violet oasis]

Ignore that pain

[lusty grotto]

sure, just no need to track it

[ebon geyser]

any tips ??

[dusky canopy]

Get better

[sharp gale]

Most likely a keybind issue in where IP is relative to WASD

[lusty grotto]

^

[violet oasis]

Have the above 20 IQs of the Warriors figured out what the changes mean to the Apex talents? Is it going to be smart to go all 4 points, or still not worth

[sharp gale]

Index finger good finger

[lusty grotto]

its a buff

and a shuffle

no negatives

just moving the DR up to 4/4

[violet oasis]

Aren't they moving the 5% DR to the 4th talent

yeah

[lusty grotto]

and adding extra damage to 1/4

[violet oasis]

So we lose 5% DR, but gain 10% overall and another 10%

[lusty grotto]

we dont lose anything

[violet oasis]

I'm not 4/4

[lusty grotto]

then you should have been

no build without 4/4 was good

even if the node needed buffs

[sharp gale]

I wonder what they take with the 4/4 point, Bloodborne ?

Bloodsurge ?

[lusty grotto]

cope talents

most likely

[tribal wharf]

nerf warlock summoning cost

what i mean is you can solo summon but it takes drastically longer like 30 seconds cast

[sharp gale]

Why add a 30 sec cast

[tribal wharf]

takes 2 other to set up the portal and 2 to click once its up

its bs

[sharp gale]

Yes but why you feel the need to introduce a 30 sec cast and not the few sec of now

[ebon geyser]

i just need some better visual of my rage bar to know when im at 70.. ugh

[violet oasis]

Should take 4 people to summon the 5th

[tribal wharf]

only if the 5th dies to infernal spawn right

[violet oasis]

I have my rage bar do this so I can easily glance at where I am

[ebon geyser]

how?

[sharp gale]

I don’t personally use rage markers, I just IP when around 3/4 is filled

[violet oasis]

Addon called Enhanced QoL.

[tribal wharf]

ya, i got into a group and i didnt look but they didnt have healer

so, i just toldthem to run after we wiped

[violet oasis]

Spoken like a true High School Gym teacher

[tribal wharf]

just a i assumed all 4 other players was there

big stupid moment

[cerulean tusk]

level 90 pwarrior needs some help

20% more thanks blizz

[daring marlin]

where's the damage

[ebon geyser]

is there a way to track SB in that

[violet oasis]

Not currently, but if you ask the dev or suggest it, they often times add stuff that is requested. I just use the built in bars for that

[ebon geyser]

will do ty

[violet oasis]

Easily my favorite addon. I use it for nearly everything including party and raid frames. It replaced Blizzmove to leatrix to many other addons all in one.

[daring beacon]

WARIRIORS Hi!

[mighty valley]

Hi!

[undone beacon]

Hello!

[toxic pewter]

Hiya

[novel mango]

yo!

[tribal wharf]

someone left group :S

The longer you look the worse it gets

and duplicate item slot for epic

[drowsy comet]

@toxic pewter i know its abit weird to ask, but how do you feel when healing, sure totally off topic but still.

jakey before u yell, calm down its just a minute

[toxic pewter]

I mean it feels good sort of like glide along the run.. findd myself just watching health bars so much and using peripheral vision a lot too sorta

kinda hard to explain

but like it should feel chill but also stressful here and there

[drowsy comet]

think it also depends abit on what healer you play and how each plays but yea. Thanks for the small insight

[sharp gale]

But on every healer you can catch the bad habit of the healer pov / especially in raid, where your eyes are very focused on the party frames, while you char is looking a wall or the ground

[true cove]

Who's excited for Tuesday / Wednesday!

[toxic pewter]

yah each healer def has different vibes imo

you may want to try each one

[azure valley]

Boys is there any active buggs on prot war that is should know?

[warm plinth]

Apb, you are a vibe

Gottem

[toxic pewter]

lol

[drowsy comet]

apb is the vibe, bros just vibing

[toxic pewter]

some guy is raging i ngeneral chat rigt now

cuz me and my friends killed him too many times

LOL

[sharp gale]

Blood for the Blood God

[rocky crest]

Can anyone craft Spellbreakers Rebuke ?

[solid sun]

For N and H raid?

[lusty grotto]

why would you want that

also crafters have to be on your realm

oh my mistake i thought it was the perma embelish one

but the point still stands about crafters

[ionic fern]

Nothing too huge.
Think the Rend not applying to enemies out of your melee range via TC is the biggest "annoyance".

[azure valley]

thx

what about execute?

[rocky crest]

Oh I did not know about that @lusty grotto

[ionic fern]

What about it?

It's not bugged..just underwhelming.

[azure valley]

ah okok

[solid sun]

Kitchen floor: tile, wood, polished concrete, something else

[steep valley]

make it out of old dried up kitchen sponges

[sharp gale]

Tiles

[toxic pewter]

yeah for a kitchen, i think I would prefer tile

or whatever can withstand stains and stuff the best

[drowsy comet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/K0E2vQqoNAo?is=kkbQMbGGrred4E1_

[errant wagon]

fellas are you crafting anything with sparks prior to raid on Tuesday?
Laria's guide offers no advice for tanks / people who 1h weap + 1h shield.

can't really figure out if there is a pro/con to doing it now

[mighty valley]

Thick shag carpet, the spaghetti sauce has gotta stay in there forever

[toxic pewter]

lol

I crafted a 1h already, will craft shield prob when I get 80 hero crests or perhaps even mythic crests if im able to

[errant wagon]

ALSO, A SHORT LITTLE HUMBLE BRAG.
Ya boy got this the other day finally 😎

[mighty valley]

I’m holding off on crafting til I have crests anyway and seeing what I have by that point

[toxic pewter]

gratz

[lusty grotto]

did you have the rating? cause if you didnt, that's gonna get removed

[errant wagon]

i did. ended 3951 before prepatch

[lusty grotto]

ok good shit

gz

[errant wagon]

ty 🙏

[tribal wharf]

what is the worst overall healer in your guys opinion for midnight

i think many times its player issue too but i have an answer

[toxic pewter]

ngl I fofllow some healer youtubers and disc priest actually got nerfed hard throughout beta and considered by many as weakest right now

[tribal wharf]

maybe just RNG but i had 2 holy paladins that werent good

i know 1 monk was really strong

[toxic pewter]

yeah as far as I can tell, druid monk and paladin are considered strong

but not sure how tuesday tuning will change that

[drowsy comet]

player issue, ive had great healers no matter the spec

[lusty grotto]

^

[errant wagon]

on the crafting thing I guess the only benefit to holding off on crafting is waiting till week 3 (first vault with mythic track) and you hope for a shield or 1H in it?

just seems like such a long time to sit on sparks zzz

[lusty grotto]

yeah pretty much

and crafting costs etc

[toxic pewter]

i used to wait for vault but honestly just dont care anymore

[errant wagon]

i'm kinda feeling that way. it is what it is kinda vibe right now

just hate to sit on the sparks forever

[toxic pewter]

(from reddit) lol

thats wild to gatekeep warr from m0 lmao

surely its a joke

[cerulean tusk]

You know what is a joke?

M0

[toxic pewter]

ya

[sharp gale]

duality of reddit

[toxic pewter]

wat

lol

strange thing to say

what that guy said i mean lol

[lusty grotto]

ummm i know that guy in RL

hes on disc with me right now

[toxic pewter]

lol

wat r the odds

[lusty grotto]

i just told him

[sharp gale]

#protection message
it is from the screen of evil lil gup twin

[toxic pewter]

[cerulean tusk]

Nim is the warrior... the legendary warrior