you cant pick one
#protection
dusky canopy
lusty grotto
they do that so people dont bottleneck matchmaking by being "main andies"
dusky canopy
toxic pewter
ohh so like you only play the literal match as 1 guy tho right
lusty grotto
right
lusty grotto
you just get one from your selected ones
sharp gale
it's similar reason as second role in league i guess
solid sun
It’s actually a very well made game
It’s just essentially a shooter moba
So everyone is Satan
toxic pewter
are there heroes that dont require good aim
sharp gale
it's been quite some time i didn't play a shooter game
daring marlin
mobas are a blast
solid sun
Aiming is a big deal but I do think there are some melee centric heroes
I don’t think they get by without shooting though
lusty grotto
yup
sharp gale
yeah i play with big dpi, i'll pick whatever you don't need to aim a lot
- the goofy looking char
lusty grotto
youre allowed to be new and bad
toxic pewter
who is the reinhardt of deadlock
lusty grotto
just have thick skin
glad magnet
It’s just essentially a shooter moba
I miss Paragon. Fucking Fortnight.
solid sun
Does anyone have any characters that could use some m0s at some point tonight?
I have about a 1/3 of a level until I hit 90
naive flare
I do, but you don't want me to tank your m0s with warrior lol
lusty grotto
why not
naive flare
I specced into prot literally 5 mins ago
lusty grotto
ok so
why would you think that message was for you?
i can run a few rhino
much later tonight though
solid sun
Much later sounds good to me
lofty warren
Who is going to write the wowhead "things that need to be fixed" post? The wowhead guide says pumps but I think hes away or something idk
https://www.wowhead.com/news/spinning-crane-kick-kicked-to-the-curb-for-midnight-windwalker-380770
dusky canopy
solid sun
We might not get one.
But who cares
You’re just gonna play whatever ends up being s tier anyways
lofty warren
But how will blizz know what they need to fix
waxen frigate
mighty valley
i can write our missing iconic ability article
"Execute"
done, how much is wowhead paying me
candid cove
Let them buff execute so when they nerf bears and monks we can be top dps tanks
lusty grotto
we're not talking about tuning
harrow is talking about the "missing ability" articles
lusty grotto
bad take
lofty warren
Right now its an extra button that is almost never pressed
coarse bay
Thats a tuning problem, not a get rid of button problem
drowsy comet
get rid of all skills, lets all just auto attack
lofty warren
Ok fine. What is your take if ur all so smart
coarse bay
lofty warren
That run fast warrior talent feels slow id increase movement % and also have it break roots
Pierces howl
solid sun
Is there a tuning option where I can become as good as @coarse bay
mighty valley
i'd like them to revert the change from tww s2 where execute stopped giving colossus stacks, really don't follow the reasoning that colossus should care less about it
and yeah, phalanx feels off, esp for colossus
(i'm paid off by Big Colossus)
lusty grotto
the big 2 are: buff execute, buff phalanx / apex
my small want is for phalanx to gain shit by using revenge as colossus somehow
mighty valley
initial gather as colossus feels so awkward rn
lusty grotto
that is true
mighty valley
need rage for sb, but want to tc before ss for phalanx proc, but tc is baby for colossus
tribal wharf
That run fast warrior talent feels slow id increase movement % and also have it ...
timing issue
players dont move in combat
typically
send it when aoe crap goes out
or moving between packs
mighty valley
it's a raid movespeed buff, you'll know on schedule when it's good to press
and overloading it with a root break would confuse the usecase
as much as i miss breaking roots
tribal wharf
you get a good sense of when to use it like rally eventually
and it becomes natural
sharp gale
@lusty grotto how do i buy skins
toxic pewter
lol no need to make the movespeed talent cause root break literally just let the one that removes slows just break root lol
I mean if youre gonna do it
lofty warren
Other changes id like: anger management should give cdr for every 10 rage spent.
Apex talent to give 10% dr and instead be a buff given to the pwar instead of a debuff on enemy and for it to be stackable
Ohh and update this to read tb extends duration by 4 seconds
toxic pewter
10% seems a bit high imo
tribal wharf
we are as of now the current live lords other than monk
lusty grotto
AM was nerfed in midnight, so its definitely not gonna get buffed back up to DF or TWW levels
none of these are constructive
they are unneeded
or go against the current blizz philosophy
lofty warren
When i am doing pwar the flow feels fine but then there is sometimes a 5 second stretch before avatar is available againe where there is nothing to do and its slow. Thats why increasing anger management or tb avatar duration may help bridge thay gap imo
lofty warren
Do you think they will buff pwar damage/it is needed?
lusty grotto
i believe ive said so like 200 times already so yes
but thinking does not mean they will do it
lofty warren
Do you have each tank specs dps in aoe and st? I know i read bear is high up but idk whay the actual numbers look like
lusty grotto
i do not
mighty valley
it's supposed to be kind of exciting to hit your cooldowns, avatar shouldn't be our permanent state of existing
if you're finding yourself with no buttons to press, save rage for revenge better
dusky canopy
What addon do you guys use to track ignore pain?
jagged pier
in game bliz cdm
mighty valley
DN
dusky canopy
What’s DN?
jagged pier
lusty grotto
danger near
mighty valley
Don't No 🙂
lusty grotto
toxic pewter
they need to add a way to like send gifts to someones house
mighty valley
I’ve run out of things to theorize
get to work on nuclear fusion power
dusky canopy
My ability to theorize ends at exe & cute combined
wicked lantern
does shield block have a pandemic window?
dusky canopy
You can overlap shield block duration
Doesn’t it go up to like 24 seconds
Idr tbh been a while
lusty grotto
3 times its duration yes
lusty grotto
theres really nothing to pandemic on SB
jagged pier
3 x 6 withough ED 3 x 8 with ED, then well i was going to talk about bolster but we dont have that anymore
lusty grotto
only dots pandemic
lusty grotto
Murder Row really does suck
for bads it does
vivid orchid
Great dungeon aside from performance issues imo
toxic pewter
whats wrong with it
dusky canopy
Murder row owns
mighty valley
you need to know what the mobs before the first boss do to avoid dying. tragic
drowsy comet
for bads it does
need a good healer and dps who actually kick, otherwise murder row is absolute cancer, has nothing to do with being bad or not lol. These bandits stealing ur IP is not cool
dusty orchid
Not being a dwarf hurts in that instance
toxic pewter
ngl i didnt notice any bleeds in m0's i ran
lusty grotto
need a good healer and dps who actually kick, otherwise murder row is absolute c...
lmao okay
toxic pewter
lol
drowsy comet
abit atleast lol
lusty grotto
have you tried doing basic LoSing
vivid orchid
Kicking spells. How novel...
mighty valley
i don't think "the team needs to play well" is that much of a criticism but sure
lofty warren
The mobs at the start of murder row are unbelievable. Especially with the random ass knock backs and they hit too hard
dusky canopy
drowsy comet
have you tried doing basic LoSing
no shit, mr obvious
pugs being pugs i guess
kick? nah
dispell? nah
lusty grotto
imagine depending on dps to kick when you have: (1) pummel, (2) javelineer, (3) disrupting shout, (4) LoS
skill issue
drowsy comet
respectfully Nim
dusty orchid
dispell? nah
Not having dispels hurts - i haven't had a healer cleanse in that instance yet
drowsy comet
dont get me wrong
lusty grotto
im fucking with you but also im being serious
you have 3 things that can interrupt
use them
drowsy comet
Not having dispels hurts - i haven't had a healer cleanse in that instance yet
Either that or the Warlock not giving me cookies
lusty grotto
its easier to use your own kit than think you can control your other teammates
you cant dwarf? then learn which mobs bleed and dont zug pull
lofty warren
Do you get low fps in magistrate Terrance when you are fighting all the purple mobs before boss 3?
lusty grotto
same goes for any other that apply dispellable shit
dusky canopy
What dungeon is Magistrate Terrance?
drowsy comet
im a dwarf actually.. 💀
dusky canopy
Never heard of it
solid dove
With the addition of the “Interrupted by:” on nameplates, my husband finally sees how much I interrupt during encounters
lusty grotto
first area has a bleeds yes
drowsy comet
didnt know that lol
dusky canopy
With the addition of the “Interrupted by:” on nameplates, my husband finally se...
W!! 😎
mighty valley
huge
drowsy comet
yea makes sense then why my ass gets busted in half in the first area
lofty warren
What dungeon is Magistrate Terrance?
The one where you have that rp where you pick up food and give it to people
drowsy comet
With the addition of the “Interrupted by:” on nameplates, my husband finally se...
So you mean i can blame my dps who dont interrupt? :o
(and i dont care if anyone says tank ego or not)
solid dove
So you mean i can blame my dps who dont interrupt? :o
Indeed! There’s no sense adding something to base UI if you can’t use it to shame people
lusty grotto
you cannot control your team members
lusty grotto
Indeed! There’s no sense adding something to base UI if you can’t use it to sham...
absolutely fucking not
mighty valley
trying to shame puggers is a fool's errand. shaming your husband is easy and, in fact, recommended
lusty grotto
you guys are raging about >>> pugs not kicking in m0 <<<
drowsy comet
okay actually i was js joking, but this is getting fun nah jk jk 
lusty grotto
like what is wrong with you
mighty valley
lil gup is new
dusky canopy
I’m pissed Nim didn’t pull 20 mobs only 19
mighty valley
still lil
dusky canopy
Smh my head
lusty grotto
if youre serious about it
drowsy comet
I’m pissed Nim didn’t pull 20 mobs only 19
vote kick immidiately
mighty valley
lil gup is going through this era
lusty grotto
lol
solid dove
57 minutes, a perfect length
drowsy comet
i also learned in murder row how this stupid warlock bitch fight is support to work, especially in pugs it was quite challenging when to TP and when to stay in the ads
*today
lusty grotto
well youre suposed to pop cds on the adds
lofty warren
I have zero expectations that pugs will kick so I assume I have to get them all or just eat it. But with interrupt and Shockwave and throw hammer and aoe shout and fear and wrecked throw I can shut a mob up for basically forever but I have to waist lots of gcds on ccs instead of dps
drowsy comet
lil gup is going through this era
actually, i dont wear diapers anymore
lusty grotto
but its m0 so whatever
drowsy comet
dusky canopy
I just hold avatar and reck and odyns for the adds
mighty valley
actually, i dont wear diapers anymore
i'm sorry, i wasn't familiar with your game
drowsy comet
I have zero expectations that pugs will kick so I assume I have to get them all ...
tank busters are fun
dusky canopy
I nuke adds and we win
drowsy comet
But guys
solid dove
I haven’t noticed yet; is there an AoE at the same time as the adds spawning?
dusky canopy
The big ass infernal pulses
Believe the demon she calls down adds damage too idr off the top of my head
solid dove
The imps spawning, I meant
dusky canopy
And not only that but the imps spam damage on everyone
drowsy comet
i am STILL completely clueless on how the toxicity is gonna be once M+ opens. Like yea, ive seen some small things here and there, in normal dungeons and M0. But is M+ really this extreme or are yall overexagerating? lil gup wants to get prepared before he gets depressed
lusty grotto
if this is your first season
jagged pier
very
lusty grotto
you better grow thick skin
dusky canopy
People get really bitchy in pugs
lusty grotto
like now
dusky canopy
You’ll see
mighty valley
you're gonna find a lot of ragers in mid-level m+, yes
jagged pier
espeically as theres now a competetive tag
lusty grotto
in fact grow thick skin yesterday
mighty valley
i mean. you're already being one of them right, lol
cerulean tusk
Learn to be like Cat and Rat, just dont care what they say
laugh at their struggles
lusty grotto
cat is correct
lofty warren
Ur supposed to kill the adds and the take portal to her and then interrupt her and also dont stand near the infernal.
solid sun
Are we mad today, gamers?
solid dove
Answer every complaint with “k”
drowsy comet
in fact grow thick skin *yesterday*
who do you think i am, a time traveler? im not in back to the future cuh
drowsy comet
Are we mad today, gamers?
No 
cerulean tusk
Answer every complaint with “k”
My favorite is:
"Nah"
Then say nothing more for the rest of the key
solid dove
My favorite is:
"Nah"
Then say nothing more for the rest of the key
A flawless response
dusky canopy
Are we mad today, gamers?
I’ll check my blood pressure after the patch notes and get back to you
round pendant
I barely ever experienced toxicity in m+
cerulean tusk
or we happy
solid sun
I’ll check my blood pressure after the patch notes and get back to you
I imagine your coffee pressure will be nice and high just like you intended
round pendant
you'll mostly see toxicity in m+ like, below 10s
2-6 is like where all the toxic idiots live
lusty grotto
start of the season yam
grizzled nova
i am STILL completely clueless on how the toxicity is gonna be once M+ opens. Li...
It's generally overblown so long as you're staying on top of ish meta routes and are pulling to time
lusty grotto
it'll be everywhere
round pendant
I have like
lofty warren
If you go higher up you get more toxic ppl too
round pendant
a handful of toxic experiences per season
lofty warren
At both ends of the extreme
drowsy comet
2-6 is like where all the toxic idiots live
this low? holy shit, I mean Id have kinda expected that in +12s and above or something
lusty grotto
youll get the token warlock leavers that apparently dont care about gear too
solid sun
If you pug a lot and use w routes you will experience toxicity. 100%
drowsy comet
It's generally overblown so long as you're staying on top of ish meta routes and...
Press W and zugzug 
grizzled nova
The tank tends to catch strays when things go wrong but you can just ignore that, people only get actually mad at the tank if you're taking an int route and pulling at int speed
round pendant
this low? holy shit, I mean Id have kinda expected that in +12s and above or som...
No because the higher you go the more competent people are and competent people generally have more of an idea on where to assign blame
jagged pier
If you pug a lot and use w routes you will experience toxicity. 100%
if you pug
u dont need to add anything
lusty grotto
yam is right, just not for the start of a season
the start of the season is the wild west
drowsy comet
now im curious
cerulean tusk
Most toxic spot is just where the curve peaks in a season, it moves with it
jagged pier
ive have ppl tell me its not the route at the start of the season many times
like day 1
grizzled nova
As you go higher bricked keys tend to just end in "/abandon ggnt"
round pendant
yup
dusky canopy
The first 3 days of the season are the best because all the regular high key doers are farming 10s(or equivalent) and you can just invite them to your own key that you pushed up and smooth sail
lusty grotto
again
drowsy comet
if mfs are bitching in low M+, like really low, +2 to +5s, why is anyone bitching, like ive seen alot really questionable people, and yes while it was just in Normal dungeons and Heroics, why are grown ass ppl like that in WoW lol
lusty grotto
The context is the start of the season
round pendant
if you bold it we'll pay attention
lusty grotto
very important to understand it
cerulean tusk
# The context is the start of the season
Why u toxikk agaib
drowsy comet
climbinb Rio sounds easy af, you dont even loose IO when you brick a key, which tbh should be a thing
lusty grotto
it was a thing
drowsy comet
so less carrying i guess
lusty grotto
it used to
lofty warren
No because the higher you go the more competent people are and competent people ...
This sounds like a load of horse manure to me. Higher up early season ppl flamed me for not knowing their favorite route. Or my favorite when nobody kicked on that tww dungeon where the first boss was a bird and you had to interrupt 6 spam casters and then tank gets blamed. Usually if anything goes wrong then tank or healer are easy targets to flame
dusky canopy
-# DN
round pendant
Dunno
drowsy comet
As you go higher bricked keys tend to just end in "/abandon ggnt"
that simple? i mean, you can always get a new key, right?
round pendant
Like I said, I hardly ever experienced toxicity
lusty grotto
recency bias
round pendant
No.
drowsy comet
so not looking at chat will be the absolute meta? for the most part?
round pendant
You can search through my messages and see the dozen times this topic has come up and how that's always my answer
lusty grotto
then you werent doing as many keys as the rest of us on week 1
round pendant
lol
round pendant
Yeah
grizzled nova
that simple? i mean, you can always get a new key, right?
You're only gonna catch flak it you're going slower than you should be, routes can differ, so long as you're pulling to time and not doing singular 3 mob packs at a time people generally won't care
round pendant
I just got lucky for 3 years
lusty grotto
yam that's not supposed to be a flame
lofty warren
when you have plenty of time and there is 1 wipe and even though ur still good on time some just leaves 35 min into a 40 min dungeon. That's worse than anyone flaming anyone
lusty grotto
im not sure why you would take it that way
but less exposure means you can get lucky about it
i have seen a lot of it on week 1
urban vortex
Y'all think we'll see the tuning for the 17th posted today?
lusty grotto
a fucking lot
lusty grotto
even more so on the very first season of an expansion
round pendant
I simply experienced fuck all toxicity in years of wow and thousands of dungeons ran
lusty grotto
because there are just more people playing
round pendant
a couple per season
glad magnet
Think I did 60 keys week 1 and saw less than a handful of rude people.
lusty grotto
well there's also something to consider
the whole contract thing
being easier to get mass reported
solid sun
I always get shit on throughout the whole season. Even by my friends! Doesn’t matter if it’s the first week or the last week. If I’m in a key somebody is gonna tell me I’m poop
drowsy comet
You're only gonna catch flak it you're going slower than you should be, routes c...
On my brewmaster I did 2 M0s and asked the pugs for feedback if Im too slow, overpull and stuff. First nobody answered and they all quit immidiately so idk if I was good or absolute trash.
The second dungeon, they said my pulls were really good and I was fast too, not too fast, not too slow. Only on bosses I should maybe take abit care to.
So I guess theres some ppl who you can have fun with tho
and well, @sharp gale is still there to carry my ass 
round pendant
The kinda people who talk shit in week 1 keys get left behind instantly
so ig I don't hang around the points where you're likely to meet them for very long
solid sun
I never seem to keep up with the wave
I do 10-12 keys all season long to fill vaults and help people out every week so we out here seeing specimens daily
round pendant
I don't remember the last time anyone so much as said a word during a 10-12 key
but
drowsy comet
Think I did 60 keys week 1 and saw less than a handful of rude people.
Idk if that makes sense, but does Region matter too when it comes to toxicity? Like NA could be grumpy tho, need somebody giving his experience from EU
round pendant
when doing low keys on my alts there's all sorts of weird shit going on tbf
drowsy comet
The kinda people who talk shit in week 1 keys get left behind instantly
left behind by what means? Not getting gear, being left behind because nobody plays with them, or?
round pendant
They suck ass
grizzled nova
Weekly keys are always a dice roll, you invariably get people that hardly qualify for conscious
glad magnet
Idk if that makes sense, but does Region matter too when it comes to toxicity? L...
Yeah I’m NA but it was mostly just people trying to get their loot.
round pendant
being bad at a game and being toxic is correlated
lofty warren
If ur doing keys that are 3-4 below world first ones you'll run into some toxic ppl bc they really want to win but 10-12 is quite rare to find toxic
mighty valley
everyone is also extremely tense week 1 about getting a good vault lol
drowsy comet
what are these weekly keys? Like do you mean M10s for the weekly Vault or what exactly?
lusty grotto
yeah vault keys
mighty valley
yeah, just maxing out your vault, not pushing harder
round pendant
everyone is also extremely tense week 1 about getting a good vault lol
yeah that's true
grizzled nova
If ur doing keys that are 3-4 below world first ones you'll run into some toxic ...
Toxic insofar as they're barely aware that they should be pressing buttons to participate and help the key go faster, tho
drowsy comet
and Vault keys are always +10s? Wasnt there something about +18s for Midnight lol
mighty valley
i think they pulled back on that? but I don't remember
jagged pier
nah they got rid of that
glad magnet
and Vault keys are always +10s? Wasnt there something about +18s for Midnight lo...
I do 12s because then I don’t have to deal with pugs ignoring affix
drowsy comet
people will do 12s for no affixes though
no affixes? huh arent affixes on every key, and changing weekly? i think ive seen something like that or im completely mistaken
lofty warren
Toxic insofar as they're barely aware that they should be pressing buttons to pa...
Sometimes you get the brian dead and sometimes you get ce group just trying to go fast for vault
grizzled nova
Holding down one button assist getting 70% parses in heroic pug tells you all you need to know about your average wow player
mighty valley
no affixes? huh arent affixes on every key, and changing weekly? i think ive see...
there's only one affix with gameplay each week, and it's removed at 12 and higher for a "bigger stats" affix instead
lofty warren
Does the single button really get a 70% parse?
glad magnet
Toxic insofar as they're barely aware that they should be pressing buttons to pa...
That’s why I prio BM and Rets for week 1 keys. Really hard for them to not do damage. Anything that requires more than 1 brain cell I don’t take.
mighty valley
*single button using cooldowns correctly
glad magnet
Does the single button really get a 70% parse?
For memes I’ve played with it got high blue parses in mythic raids and high purples in heroic as dps
lusty grotto
it takes a bit of management to get up there with it
drowsy comet
there's only one affix with gameplay each week, and it's removed at 12 and highe...
Huh!? Wait wait wait, so affixes are there only for up to +12s and after +12s theres what exactly?
mystic cave
theres nothing
lofty warren
For memes I’ve played with it got high blue parses in mythic raids and high purp...
Is that legal?
lusty grotto
yes its legal
glad magnet
Is that legal?
Nope single button assist is illegal
glad magnet
It’s a trap
lusty grotto
when did we changed to cheats
drowsy comet
I don’t believe that you don’t know any of this
im still learning, lemme ask my noobie questions 
lusty grotto
i thought we were talking about OBR
mighty valley
Huh!? Wait wait wait, so affixes are there only for up to +12s and after +12s th...
so there USED to be a more complicated affix system. now, there's a rotating xalatath themed affix, one is active each week. but at 12, it's replaced with a generic "enemies have more health/damage" affix
lofty warren
Single button should give like a 20 parse as long as you dont die. Not a purple/blue
mighty valley
so you don't need to worry about orbs or dispels or whatever
glad magnet
i thought we were talking about OBR
What’s the OBR
mighty valley
im still learning, lemme ask my noobie questions <:sadgers:1022526082278248631>
this is why you shouldn't be mean when other people don't know how to play good lol
lusty grotto
What’s the OBR
it stands for "get fucked, i aint calling it what you want"
solid sun
I dislike the feeling that certain people are using the SBAOBR as an insult
glad magnet
it stands for "get fucked, i aint calling it what you want"
It’s not what I want
glad magnet
I dislike the feeling that certain people are using the SBAOBR as an insult
My gameplay would be better if pugs were required to use it
mighty valley
if you're getting beaten by people using OBR, the problem lies within you, not the OBR person
lusty grotto
if you parse X by using OBR, it means the rest of the logs are filled with absolute shitters
lofty warren
Single button was supposed for be for ppl that only have 1 hand or something not for ppl to parse purple with
lusty grotto
it has nothing to do with how OBR performs
glad magnet
if you parse X by using OBR, it means the rest of the logs are filled with absol...
Guess what. They are. Lol.
drowsy comet
so there USED to be a more complicated affix system. now, there's a rotating xal...
is that why ppl say +12s are easier than +10s? im reading old posts about keys in the forums and literally soak in the informations like a sponge lol
glad magnet
Most people are really bad
lusty grotto
logs are rankings are based on comparison, not absolute (or potential) values
mighty valley
is that why ppl say +12s are easier than +10s? im reading old posts about keys i...
yeah, the damage numbers are higher in a 12, but most puggers do better with one less mechanic to worry about
lusty grotto
whether OBR parses X or not has more to say with the logs, than anything else
its a nothingburger rant
mighty valley
and by the time people are doing 12s for weekly, they're generally overgeared
strong forum
is that why ppl say +12s are easier than +10s? im reading old posts about keys i...
Well it's also that all the people that are good enough to do 12s are doing 12s
solid dove
Single button was supposed for be for ppl that only have 1 hand or something not...
I considered using it for the nemesis season 3
drowsy comet
Most people are really bad
And then getting out dps´d by someone with SBA
strong forum
So by natural selection you will have better players and in turn higher success
drowsy comet
wtf did you reply to lmao
glad magnet
And then getting out dps´d by someone with SBA <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
Sometimes I’ll do a key with it then tell the people at the end I beat them with it. They get mad mad.
mighty valley
why did you just reply to a message from august
lofty warren
How much of your brian do you need to be missing to do worse then single button?
drowsy comet
Sometimes I’ll do a key with it then tell the people at the end I beat them with...
i had a frost mage playing on SBA, on the Steamdeck, and this guy was more than just out dpsíng all the other DPS´s lmao
Demo lock? I sleep
DDH? I sleep
Frost Mage? real shit
daring marlin
yeah, the damage numbers are higher in a 12, but most puggers do better with one...
What's even the point of Fort/Tyrannical at this point frankly
They may as well delete them both
mighty valley
the thing is, most people who choose to use single button aren't gonna get purple parses, because they're not gonna be great at everything else in wow
movement/uptime/mechanics etc
daring marlin
well they did
Just adding them to the infinitely scaling key levels artificially suppresses how high you can climb
It's lazy
mighty valley
the people getting big single button parses are generally good players showing off
mighty valley
What's even the point of Fort/Tyrannical at this point frankly
it adds weekly variety to the types of keys that us discord people do not perceive as existing
grizzled nova
I tell nerds in my friend group heroic raid to bind one buttons so they can just hold it down while they're doing mechanics
focus on the mechanic and hold down your one button
undone beacon
hi friends i just got back whats the conversation
mighty valley
we're having like three of them pash
mighty valley
obr / m+ affixes / why'd this random guy reply to a build someone posted in august
lusty grotto
grizzled nova
the biggest problem with non-gamer wow players is just that anything that makes them move also puts their rotation to a dead halt
if they're moving they're not doing their rotation and they have significantly more wait time than just holding down one button
mighty valley
honestly the people who are big mad about SBA are probably also pretty bad at movement and uptime
but don't perceive the problems within
it's all someone else's fault
daring marlin
it adds weekly variety to the types of keys that us discord people do not percei...
Point being at 12+ it serves no purpose
mighty valley
yes, that was the point of the whole affix rework
blizzard still saw value in it for lower keys, but it caused more problems at higher keys
so they basically don't exist at 12+
toxic pewter
wth is obr and sba
daring marlin
Hence me saying they may as well just delete fort/tyr from 12+
undone beacon
wth is obr and sba
one button rotation / single button assistant
toxic pewter
ohh right
mighty valley
what does it matter? they'd just rebalance the numbers some other way
undone beacon
Hence me saying they may as well just delete fort/tyr from 12+
I mean fort/tyr are just additional scaling, so its taking the scaling from one bucket and moving it to another. Doesnt make a functional difference
round pendant
I'm a certified one button rotation hater
daring marlin
I mean fort/tyr are just additional scaling, so its taking the scaling from one ...
It's an additional tuning nob. They're not good at tuning, obviously.
toxic pewter
what % of people even use one button
mighty valley
yam you're not a wow player, you don't need to be a hater
lusty grotto
It's an additional tuning nob. They're not good at tuning, obviously.
but it hasnt been a problem since they put it in
mighty valley
you're free
undone beacon
I'm a certified one button rotation hater
I'm adding OBR to POE stat
daring marlin
but it hasnt been a problem since they put it in
ok lol
undone beacon
lusty grotto
i mean it hasnt
round pendant
I'm adding OBR to POE stat
Most builds in poe only use one button anyway
undone beacon
Most builds in poe only use one button anyway <:keks:936231610850897992>
Fuck its a perfect game then, installing asap
If i wasnt on the midnight grind I'd try poe again but
C'est la vie
Man i show up and the conversation dies
Let me go necro something from like two years ago
round pendant
Do it and then maybe you'll be free like me
mighty valley
yo
undone beacon
Why don't we use AzeriteForge?
round pendant
Holy
lusty grotto
what the fuck
undone beacon
drowsy comet
also whats really hard for me as a tank main in general, is to to know how much I can pull, when is too much, when is too little. Kinda inconsistent, and for each DPS spec sometimes they want big pulls to deal more damage. Lots of thinking, lots of using brain 
mighty valley
Original Yo
undone beacon
ogyo
mighty valley
also whats really hard for me as a tank main in general, is to to know how much ...
this just comes with practice and actually knowing what all the mobs do
OR
copying routes once the season starts
drowsy comet
copying routes once the season starts
Hm sounds like an idea
lofty warren
drowsy comet
It is no longer possible
Can yall stop replying to old messages, my dumbass is curious an reads the context lol
lusty grotto
hello?
drowsy comet
<https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-1-ptr-class-tuning-development-notes-for-...
February 12th
mighty valley
nothing wrong with learning a little history
lusty grotto
those are not tuning development notes pepega, can you read
solid sun
I don’t copy routes unless they’re from the mdi
undone beacon
<https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-1-ptr-class-tuning-development-notes-for-...
This is S tier bait i love it
lofty warren
Common i had to have gotten someone with that
lusty grotto
drowsy comet
I don’t copy routes unless they’re from the mdi
Press W and zugzug, works wonders so far
lusty grotto
ok im gonna take the L
mighty valley
it was a good one to pick tbh, "all tank damage buffed" is pretty appropriate ragebait
solid dove
11.1: what a time to be alive
undone beacon
An issue with Brann’s Epic Egg not summoning a devilsaur has been resolved. Thank GOD
11.1 was great i miss my stupid goblin car
drowsy comet
about time
undone beacon
the fact they wont let you use it outside of undermine is a crime
lusty grotto
agreed
round pendant
The only person I see yapping in this channel in 2016 that I recognise is kanga
undone beacon
i want to pollute eversong with my sick exhaust
round pendant
Where were you guys
undone beacon
Being a hunter main
solid dove
cries in joined yesterday
undone beacon
everyone point and laugh at the sprout
or something
isnt that FF terminology
i feel gross now
undone beacon
mighty valley
i started out in fury in 2016 but didn't really start yapping til 2020
mighty valley
Nighty night
drowsy comet
The only person I see yapping in this channel in 2016 that I recognise is kanga
Where is she even
round pendant
Dunno don't care
drowsy comet
same
round pendant
drowsy comet
im eating chocolate balls with rum, ngl the rum is kinda nasty but the choco is good
mighty valley
is it bad rum or do you not like rum
undone beacon
Gn everybody
Goodnight
drowsy comet
is it bad rum or do you not like rum
I dont drink any alcohol, so idk. Its inside the chocolate ball, do you know Casali?
cant eat too many either otherwise i cant sleep 
mighty valley
oh no, i have not seen these
i can imagine the rum inside chocolate is not the highest quality lol
drowsy comet
i can imagine the rum inside chocolate is not the highest quality lol
The package was like 1.80€, very cheap but I was curious how its tasting lmao
kinda sweet rum
solid dove
cant eat too many either otherwise i cant sleep <:deadge:900279927138578432>
It might not help you sleep, but will it help you tank?
drowsy comet
It might not help you sleep, but will it help you tank?
with pugs? absolutely
mighty valley
No... I can't get the popular balls...
drowsy comet
tho once more guild members get geared, ill play with guildies too, so not 100% pugging
mighty valley
Yeah I found the website, it just breaks when I try to order them lol
solid sun
Have you ever started a dungeon, gathered your first pull, the healer dies, the healer starts typing and the shaman presses lust and then the group dies except for you and then someone points out the healer could have run back instead of typing so they start a whole new argument and then you finally let yourself die an everyone leaves the key
drowsy comet
Yea NA is abit more strict with alcohol, especially alcohol in candies
drowsy comet
Have you ever started a dungeon, gathered your first pull, the healer dies, the ...
Yes, 3 times the last 2 weeks 
even tho im not involved as the tank, it still does kinda make u feel bad when others blame eachother instead of just playing
coarse bay
Is there a tuning option where I can become as good as <@127599847166574592>
Im still trying to figure out how to be as good as you
solid sun
I can’t wait to game with cam
Pash when is our strategy meeting
I wanna sit in and listen to your wisdom
undone beacon
Pash when is our strategy meeting
Monday night
I was looking up what weapons sonic the hedgehog would use and was amused by this
toxic pewter
lol
drowsy comet
solid sun
I choose to believe that handgun is called sonic the hedgehog
tribal wharf
I was looking up what weapons sonic the hedgehog would use and was amused by thi...
already canon exists :S
sharp gale
fist weapons ofc
solid sun
If Sonic is a handgun
Nah knuckles is brass knuckles
He’s the fist weapon guy obviously
Tails must be hand grenades
And shadow is probably a katana
solid sun
You think shadow goes for the sideways kill shot??
tribal wharf
tales is the engineer like donatelo in tmnt
creates all gadgets
knuckles is raph, tough guy
coarse bay
I always get shit on throughout the whole season. Even by my friends! Doesn’t ma...
I always get shit on throughout the whole season. Even by my friends! Doesn’t matter if it’s the first week or the last week. If I’m in a key somebody is gonna tell me I’m poop
sharp gale
You think shadow goes for the sideways kill shot??
totally
tribal wharf
i have a theory that ppl who dont like sonic dont like it because they never stop to look for obvious secrets to stock up 40 extra lives
its so easy to do and nessecary when you are trying to run at 400mph
mistakes WILL happen, at the extreme ends
sharp gale
i didn't know you had extra lives in sonic
solid sun
I always get shit on throughout the whole season. Even by my friends! Doesn’t ma...
Happens to you too?
coarse bay
Happens to you too?
Always throughout the whole season
solid dove
Or you’re like me and can’t get out of this situation
dusky canopy
dusky canopy
Me watching blue post tracker
tribal wharf
100 rings is alot harder to do than it sounds if you try to move quickly
but its just a dont be an idiot thing
undone beacon
*Me watching blue post tracker*
sharp gale
yes 2 ways, 3 ways with continues
the only one i played was on nintendo ds i don't really remember
drowsy comet
sharp gale
recommended on the sonic video
tribal wharf
i was able to beat sonic 2 as a kid some how
still have nightmares about final stage, zero rings
wonky hit boxes, not fun lol
thats why you need the 40 extra lives, him alone can drain 15 lives like nothing
undone beacon
Guys i have a random character boost from buying midnight should I send it on Sonicholas
dusky canopy
undone beacon
I have no interest in actually playing a monk but tbh im not really using the boost on much else
Plus i think that would give me the heritage armor achieve soooo
toxic pewter
unfortuantely may not u may need to level one to 50
to get heritage armor
but solid boost imo that char owns lmao
undone beacon
Other people in my guild got the achieve from boosting so, not sure bit i digress
undone beacon
I'll keep you posted if I commit
toxic pewter
thank u
dusky canopy
warm plinth
Yo i forgot about this toy
The falling down part of it is peak. 10 out of 10 reference
solid sun
Tbh if you can use that with whirling dragon punch where you land and lose your rings
That would be pretty funny
warm plinth
You'd have to time it so you weren't still in the tail end of tbe wdp animation but otherwise I don't see why not
Since wdp animation takes over everything while it's happening
mighty valley
They're not gonna drop these patch notes today are they
They're not gonna give me a Friday treat
lofty warren
1:30 in Hollywood
glad magnet
They're not gonna give me a Friday treat
They want you to enjoy your weekend
mighty valley
I want to DISCOURSE
sharp gale
They're not gonna drop these patch notes today are they
In 4 hours they will drop the bomb
1000% arms buff
urban bane
I want to DISCOURSE
which course?
dusky canopy
The course
solid sun
Of course
dusky canopy
Inter
solid sun
Golf
dusky canopy
cerulean tusk
Just doing this leveling dung, and this tank is pulling 1 pack, 1 mob, at a time
Send help
solid sun
lil gup evil twin
sharp gale
@dusky canopy are you killing everything in 2 sec as fury by yourself in m0s ?
dusky canopy
The mobs die from my presence as fury warrior, yes
solid sun
I can tell you brew does less damage than fury
lusty grotto
you would believe mages?
solid sun
Idk if that’s helpful
sharp gale
you would believe mages?
Yes
lusty grotto
stupid wizards gaslighting
solid sun
Would you trust a wizard to raid lead
lusty grotto
also thats very obviously sarcasm
lusty grotto
Would you trust a wizard to raid lead
yes
sharp gale
My raid lead is a wizard
lusty grotto
i have
solid dove
My raid lead is a wizard
You must mutiny
solid sun
How do you know when they’re raid leading and when they’re gas lighting
lusty grotto
solid dove
You’re never truly leading raid until you’re convincing your guys they’re complete garbage
sharp gale
How do you know when they’re raid leading and when they’re gas lighting
Every time I’m on disc with him I tell him he is bad at frost mage, I’m the one doing psychological warfare
lusty grotto
sharp gale
- he did 21st man manaforge so I remind him it was a mistake
lusty grotto
merde
glad magnet
What’s Russian for you’re bad at frost mage
solid sun
Moosecow
sharp gale
Nul à chier, sacré merde, déchet de l’humanité, things like that
dusky canopy
Moosecow lmao
solid sun
Machete de illuminate
mighty valley
Would you trust a wizard to raid lead
wasn't gandalf a raid leader
sharp gale
There are words which are in every Roman language, it can be easy for some words
outer willow
He 100% was the party leader
solid sun
Gandalf kinda a weird angel moreso than wizard no?
solid dove
wasn't gandalf a raid leader
He ghosted them a third of the way through
lusty grotto
harrow does have a point, youve been beaten Rhino
undone beacon
Rhino L?
lusty grotto
take the L
mighty valley
He ghosted them a third of the way through
Yeah and then the raid went to shit til he came back from being afk
solid sun
I think my counterpoint has merit
sharp gale
Gandalf became raid leader when he became a priest no ?
solid sun
Gandalf also used a sword
sharp gale
Yeah before he was just delve companion like brann
mighty valley
Gandalf kinda a weird angel moreso than wizard no?
“A wizard is never late, nor is he early — he arrives precisely when he means to.”
literally the first thing he says
solid sun
But did he say “I’m a wizard”
outer willow
I say that too and I’m not a wizard
mighty valley
if you were correct, he would've said "A weird angel is never late"
lusty grotto
But did he say “I’m a wizard”
what is he? some kind of suicide squad?
solid sun
Yeah I also say it and am not a wizard
outer willow
You’re a Rhino
undone beacon
The “Gandalf is a weird angel thing not a wizard” hill is a weird one to die on
mighty valley
Rhino's just cornered
solid sun
Not one time in lord of the rings did a half giant man tell Gandalf he’s a wizard
undone beacon
Can you not be a weird angel thing and a wizard
outer willow
True
undone beacon
Why are they mutually exclusive
coarse bay
sharp gale
Can you not be a weird angel thing and a wizard
He died in the first movie, it’s not the same person
outer willow
You can.
Aasimar Wizards
mighty valley
wikipedia says he's a wizard like a million times
lusty grotto
arent all Maia, wizards?
outer willow
Aasimar are fallen angels
lusty grotto
just like warlocks are wizards
outer willow
They can be wizards
sharp gale
I thought they were singers
undone beacon
Okay, Magic the Gathering had an officially licensed LotR tie in set, and every Gandalf card is a Wizard
Ergo
outer willow
Damn
lusty grotto
the ainur are wizards no?
solid sun
Yeah but they’re wizards of the coast. That’s wizard propaganda
mighty valley
It says avatar but that's a different set? Is this a bug?
undone beacon
It says avatar but that's a different set? Is this a bug?
badtumtsssss
lusty grotto
miar, valar, mages and warlocks and spriests
lilac olive
the maia were sent by eru the god of lotr to "watch over ea"
undone beacon
Wait why the fuck are we talking about this in the first place
sharp gale
miar, valar, mages and warlocks and spriests
They do music, they are singers
solid sun
Why does lotr care about EA
lusty grotto
they are all wizards okay!
lilac olive
gandalf is a maiar
lusty grotto
yes thats what i said
glad magnet
Fucking nerds
solid sun
Nerd dragons
lusty grotto
fucking nerd dragon
undone beacon
Also “Wizard” is not a race lol
sharp gale
Why there is 6 Gandalf cards
solid sun
Wizard propaganda
mighty valley
Why does lotr care about EA
the gods want to play Madden
glad magnet
50 shades of gandolf
undone beacon
Why there is 6 Gandalf cards
Because Universes Beyond sets suck butt
sharp gale
Will you wear wigs ?
solid sun
Is the eyeball a wizard
mighty valley
Why there is 6 Gandalf cards
why are there a million Jace cards
sharp gale
Jace is a common name
undone beacon
why are there a million Jace cards
Hey there’s only… 14
lusty grotto
🤓 excuse me, how many sephiroth cards are there
undone beacon
mighty valley
uhhhhh three sephiroths off the top of my head
lusty grotto
undone beacon
🤓 excuse me, how many sephiroth cards are there
4 if you count the reskins
mighty valley
oh right there's an atraxa
undone beacon
lusty grotto
one winged angel plays
sharp gale
Sephiroth is a magic of the gathering thing ? I thought it was in a FF game
mighty valley
basically all of the "original art" cards or whatever you want to call them look terrible lmao
mighty valley
Sephiroth is a magic of the gathering thing ? I thought it was in a FF game
mtg does crossovers now
undone beacon
Magic sold out
solid sun
It’s so bad it’s awesome
undone beacon
Fuck universes beyond
lusty grotto
would you say the company that does mtg are wizards... of the coast?
mighty valley
i loved the ff set lol
it's a children's card game, i like the good crossover sets and don't like the bad ones
ez
sharp gale
mtg does crossovers now
That’s really cool tbf
undone beacon
I’m a nerd dragon and I like the worldbuilding and the IP
sharp gale
Wow should do Fortnite crossover
mighty valley
it's for rich children
daring marlin
undone beacon
Playing at a table of Fallouts Mothman vs Sephiroth vs Optimus Prime vs Captain America is fucking stupid
sharp gale
Competitor stole it
lusty grotto
FFXIV and Overwatch did it 🙁
mighty valley
Playing at a table of Fallouts Mothman vs Sephiroth vs Optimus Prime vs Captain ...
counterpoint: it's sick
undone beacon
I can never be convinced otherwise, I don’t care how many properties they use that I like or how cool card designs are
sharp gale
Nier is such a good crossover in FF 
undone beacon
It feels shallow
solid sun
Arguably my favorite card. Fuck blue
lusty grotto
Pash are you madge that we want an FFVII collab in WoW
mighty valley
i mean it used to be fake greek gods vs fake draculas vs sci fi racecars vs dinosaurs
undone beacon
i mean it used to be fake greek gods vs fake draculas vs sci fi racecars vs dino...
Yeah but that allows them to at least put interesting spins and make fun art and designs instead of 200 cards depicting TMNT
Also aetherdrift was not good but
solid sun
It’s crazy expensive. I don’t like that part
I also don’t like how many sets come out a year
mighty valley
kaladesh was a decade ago (crumbles to dust)
undone beacon
They stopped caring about the worldbuilding when they stopped doing multi-set blocks
So whatever
sharp gale
I bet they are rule sets with no crossover
mighty valley
yeah, the ratio is out of whack this year
and they've super fucked up some rights issues with marvel
lusty grotto
counterpoint:
undone beacon
The fact that they had to reskin all the Spider-Man cards for the online version because they fuck up the rights is so funny
solid sun
Isn’t spider man weird because like they can be paper but not digital or something?
undone beacon
And honestly the spiderman cards with actual mtg theming were so good
mighty valley
eh, playing that set on arena was such a vibesless experience
i don't blame the designers, shitty situation to be in
solid sun
Did you just type out vibesless
solid sun
I think you just invented a word
undone beacon
I mean like I know which one I’d rather see across the table
sharp gale
Thank god I played yogi oh
undone beacon
“Every Spider ever… and then some!” Shut the fuck up bro
They’ve made cool cards and used IPs I like for UB but I just can’t
Anyways
Where’s our tuning
lusty grotto
i just wanna say, im glad you guys are discussing MTG
and not pokemon cards, or else id be forced to make fun of you
solid sun
He’s pashionate about this, no denying that
mighty valley
this is one of the most played spider man cards in standard and... i hate this fuckin guy. what is going on here
sharp gale
LMAO
undone beacon
this is one of the most played spider man cards in standard and... i hate this f...
He has a spider on his head
God that art is rough
mighty valley
this is what happens when they take too long to drop patch notes
solid sun
undone beacon
Me when no patch notes
lusty grotto
lmao
mighty valley
ahhhhh fuck there's no patch notes and my hand is merging with a... trash can lid...?
lusty grotto
is this prot AI slop
lusty grotto
nah youre thinking of a UFO
undone beacon
ahhhhh fuck there's no patch notes and my hand is merging with a... trash can li...
I think it’s supposed to be like a buckler? Where it’s attached to his arm?
sharp gale
I like ai slop 
lusty grotto
ai slop is good for laughs, 🤝 happy
undone beacon
Happy watches Le tung tung sahur
solid sun
Do I want to look up le tung tung sahur
undone beacon
sharp gale
mighty valley
the only ai slop i will accept in my whole life is Leon Kennedy Meets Joe Biden
sharp gale
I forgot to cut the TikTok thing at the end mb
undone beacon
When AI was new and novel I used a website called NightCafe to generate some horrendous nightmare art and I miss that
That was peak
When there were no good models and we were all naive to it
lusty grotto
around the time i bought 10 images containing monkeys
sharp gale
The thing I dislike personnaly is ppl calling something AI while it is not, makes Happy sad for the author
mighty valley
are you incredibly wealthy now
lusty grotto
yes around 5 bucks worth
sharp gale
I can screenshot your monkeys tho
sharp gale
Still funny ppl fall into rug pulls even tho they can see clearly the guy holding the carpet and waiting someone to walk on it
sharp gale
Idk I don’t follow politics but an American airplane flew above my house the other day, can’t be that bad
lusty grotto
damn i feel bad i smiled reading that
sharp gale
Tbf when there is one, it clearly tell me it is that bad, last time it was 2022
solid sun
Well
tribal wharf
solid sun
There’s a wood trailer
sharp gale
I live near Ramstein, but doomscrolling is preferable for me yes
solid sun
Hey nim
Take a look at my cat named Soup
He my tiny baby homie
Perfect doomscrolling counter
sharp gale
lusty grotto
lol
lusty grotto
what the fuck lol
sharp gale
No tip
lusty grotto
things like that is why ai slop wins
sharp gale
Im always on the side of The Machine
lusty grotto
i wish i could say that seriously
but after seeing palantir's ceo explain some dumb pro-AI philosophy, it just makes me mad
solid sun
Hey @mighty valley how do you find the mtg arena version of a spider man card
lusty grotto
but anyway that's probably too deep (or shallow) for the tuning waiting room
solid sun
Rhino, barreling brute always seems to show the normal paper art
I can’t find the mtg arena version
sharp gale
Btw I played few games of deadlock vs the bots, I lost 2 times
warm plinth
Hello I have done leg day so please send a welfare check tomorrow
mighty valley
Hey <@222954580839759872> how do you find the mtg arena version of a spider man ...
Look it up on Scryfall and choose Through The Omen-Paths over here
warm plinth
I'm doing leg extensions and look up and see a dude who is approximately the same height and build as Dwayne Johnson except he has a mohawk
tribal wharf
there was some season i played MTGA
clear geyser
is prot one of the highest skill ceiling tanks still ?
solid sun
No
warm plinth
I don't think it ever really has been the highest skill ceiling tank
It's always been relatively simple aside from probably Shadowlands
clear geyser
feels like theres more tools than guardian and blood and brew got mega simplified too
sharp gale
Maybe brew at one time
tribal wharf
and there was embercleave deck, 1generic 3 reds reduce 1 red for each red creature you have, and then you equip it for +1/+0 and it gives it double strike and trample
that deck was so broken ppl would quit out the match turn 2
cuz i'd never lose past turn 4, only if dont get mana
sharp gale
I don't think it ever really has been the highest skill ceiling tank
In my biased view prot is the simplest just above druid
warm plinth
Nah I think you're right 100%
tribal wharf
this deck
i ran this on mtga and it was, it was impossible to lose
70% win rate
mighty valley
the challenge with prot was that most people couldn't figure out the priority just by reading the buttons
and that you have to press fast
that second one is less true now
pallid quiver
Hello I have done leg day so please send a welfare check tomorrow
No need; you're da champ so you'll walk it off ez
clear geyser
it feels like out outside of prot pal warrior has the most interesting decisions as far as what to press
like utility etc.
lofty warren
Where the fck are the patch botes
sharp gale
And blocking, in general
Blocking is why I put it above bear, bc you have backshots
vivid orchid
A boat, I think
lusty grotto
The patch boats?
tribal wharf
its hacked
they are going to teal your data and spy on you
has a camera and microphone inside of it
sharp gale
That’s a conspiracy I believe in
tribal wharf
probable but unlikely
sharp gale
I would if I was them, that’s why I believe it mostly
warm plinth
How can it be probable but unlikely
lusty grotto
Answer: yes
sharp gale
2 h before the patch boat
solid sun
That is not a charger
warm plinth
It is
solid sun
Wild
Are you sure it isn’t part of a Star Trek playset
Also it looks like it has a wire!!
:)
warm plinth
It does double as one of those food generator things
I can't think of the name of it atm
solid sun
Replicator