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They are releasing tuning that is going to happen in 2 months even though they know tuning going to happen in 5 days as well?
Correct
oh, how come, isn't it good to know the amount remaining?
Not really. If you're playing correctly IP manages itself
Often people fixate on it and as a result play worse
Okay, thanks!
I mean that is more of a talent change vs a tuning adjustment so they prob want to just delay it till .5 patch
Ptr things, don’t pay too much attention
i knew these class changes wont gonna do much lmao
It’s the first ptr week
These aren’t the class changes
This =/= the season tuning
And yes it’s not the tuning
They should buff dungeon mobs
Ohh okay so we still waiting on March 17 stuff
I felt like a brick wall when pulling wall to wall on my pally
TLDR, hit it when you have SB up, and your rage is high, and you have 0 or 1 stacks of IP.
m0s too easy
i agree
you're just too good guilford
Probably tomorrow evening for march 17th stuff
but then again for normal people they prob struggle in m0
like i was talking to a dh earlier who was scared to death to even try a mythic0
if you are at 2 stacks but sb up and full rage ip anyways
make m0s feel like +20s
lmao
thats easy
would be a blood bath
just invite alliance players
then it feels like +20
NA alliance i should state, i think EU alliances are good players
lmao yogi
This is rich coming from you
full stop
For the pwar apex talent, when you press ss and send the wave, is the wave target count uncapped?
If enemy got a wave from you and you send another wave to the enemy, what happened to the original 5% dr? Like does it stack or extend duration or delete/add new?
ngl I feel like alliance players prob better than average horde player
then again its a roll of the dice
not capped, it refreshes the dr
when i did world tour last week, i had NO idea u have to ||swap the job at the clock in bar event part way in||
so, i was trying to shove ppl out entire time
and we 1 star fail
Thank you yogi
just timer
That was really kind of you
1rst time I tanked it i was sweeping the whole time - no change
And I want you to know I noticed it and appreciate it
Refresh means it deletes existing and adds new (which is different from extend duration like sb does)
On mythic it swaps the jobs on occasion
?
Yes
what i cant do in wow is the equivilant of the green light at the cross section in a cars traffic right
and then you go to do your thing
and you get tboned
i cant do this shit where i future vision whats going to happen
so i go to do boss whatever, and then i have to do this and that, throws me for loop
dial up modem sfx of brain figuring out what i have to be doing
Den and Murder are next season right
ya,
kinda funny how some random pug groups want to do a only leather or only plate M0 world tour, as if Veteran gear isnt gonna get swapped asap once M0 reward champion gear or +6s hero gear lol
I do that so idk
ur french, its fine


gg, that cinderfury is easy
just group em all up so they all get with in 1 aoe attack
shoulders too, so soon epic midnight achievment
What in the Dun Dun 
What in the dun dun is that
wth
housing decor painting iirc
only need weapon and beltfor midnight epic achievment
I know you want this damn portrait apb, just get it cmon. Im waiting
a what
or watch hockey
What flavor wings tho
This may be a controversial opinion but
I refuse to eat bone-in chicken
I just cant do it
Any bone-in chicken?
i got one of these from the murder run
I prefer white meat chicken if i do bone in
any bone in chicken
That’s probably a bit controversial
way that trinket is worded sounds solid
I could see preferring buffalo nuggets over buffalo wings
More convenient and more meat
But rotisserie chicken is awesome
seems good
they made them at walmart today but didnt want to hang out long enough to get one
same, i just hate it
I think wings are overrated
This is also true.
I just pick the meat off the bird.
Im leaving this week at 233 on my mage after 2 armor stacked clears
I dont get loot

Armor stacking is a scam
I have decided this is fact
It was useful this week since people are now able to trade pieces
I saw it be beneficial in other armor stacks that i tanked for
But not mine
I am a little confused about this opener for MT, unless im wrong there isnt enough rage from 0 to shield block
@undone beacon
it's outdated, avatar used to give rage
i tend to do taunt > charge+avatar>sb > pepega ss/clap demo>sc
just move SB up to after demo
Got it, thats waht I have been doing but thought i was missing an interaction or something
thats also wowhead so its outdated and we dont have people here writing it
icy veins is the go to here
as of right now
Good shout, thanks!
Ya so far i havent been a fan of the guides the current wowhead writer handles, but maybe itll change once there’s relevant content and tuning passes have come
how much dps are you all doing single target on a target dummy atm?
does it matter? just sim
and see for yourself
you wont ever get to the simmed results but it should give you a better idea than asking us to smack a dummy
ARE WE BACK BOIS?
If you do sim disable raid buffs too lol
i meant more like, whacking at a target dummy somewhere
Tbh i dont think ive ever gone dummy training on a tank ever
ah i see.
you know youre gonna get very variable results from dummies right?
depending on dummy level etc
sims are more accurate
why is that
oh. does the raider dummy not work properly?
if youre gonna measure yourself, measure yourself agains ta sim
im not sure why you're avoiding it altogether
im not. just thought in game results were more trustworthy.
opposite of that
player skill, level of dummy, area the dummy is in, what dummy is involved
way too many variables, why would in-game results be more trust worthy
because it's.. what's actually happening?
Hm?
Sims are best for dps not necessarily what is always best (like defensive considerations).. ie you can go and maximize your dps based on sim but you'll also fall over bc ur skipping key defensive talents. More a tank specific quirk
Dont forget that youre comparing a couple of dummy sessions vs thousands of iterations in a sim
if you sim your character to see optimal dps/priority/actions how are you "skipping key defensive talents" ?
your OWN character
Sims are your best bet to see what's a good upgrade snd whatnot. Saves a lot of time, too.
To have results with any comparable reliability, youd spend an entire season doing the same thing in the same spot for a single sim
Im trying to say sim is better than "in game details" but you cant blindly do sim for max dps bc tanks also need to consider being defensive and not dying
i wasnt really checking for upgrades. i was checking for whether im doing what im supposed to be doing or not.
Ohh with the same talents then yes 100% sim better than dummy
which you can see in the sim
In game you suffer from Brian lag and rng but sim will do perfect rotation thousands of times so rng is normalized
It has a timeline you can look at. @remote ocean
whats your dps in the sim with no buffs at?
I did. It's a secret though || its 20.900 ||
they do not matter for your own character
we dont have the same gear
and its probable that we also dont have the same talents
That's kinda the point I'm trying to check nim. If i'm missing something obvious.
Pretty sure rhere is a better option than quick sim (like it increases n)
Just follow the "Sample Ability Log" and you'll be good to go.
Give you an idea of what you need to do.
The best you can do is either record gameplay with an ability history addon to see your casts, or dive into your logs and see if you hit the buttons right. The numbers themselves arent a good factor
Does 5 man dungeon slice work for pwar?
I smack dummies sometimes to see if I can match my sim DPS to get the muscle memory.
no
🙁
that is very likely to never change
we do the same sims we did last exp, in DF, in SL, in BFA
THAT'S TOO MANY OPTIONS!!!!!!
🤷♂️
Be reasonable, Nimchip!!
hes not new
5 patchwork works? Thats probably best sim analygus to m+?
I was obviously joking you boomer
its like he completely forgot about this
hes been around every. single. season. in. here.
If I have full rage, should I still use shield slam/thunder blast if its off cd or spend the rage in revenge?
If I already have IP full
how should I track IP now?
I didnt know you can overcap on ip
followup question how should I track SotR?
Thought it was like 100 stacks
LMAOOOOOO
nim mad we re-rolling away from pwar lol
I always play war/pal/dk tho
im not mad about rerolling
but this aint the place to talk about those classes
thats it
nimchip doesn't like the banter right now
I think I got it, so you only use revenge if TC and SS is on CD?
I get it
as thane yes
if i REALLY want help on another class i'll find it in another discord or something
What did he mean by saying he is full of ip?
what do you think he means
Thought ip could go up to 100 stacks? How is he getting so many? Its not like we in tww s3
but anyway that's irrelevant
I think he may have an IP icon in the middle of his screen that takes up half of it if he knows he has full ip
IP being full does not matter to us
If I understand it correctly, you should use Ignore Pain even if you are full stacks to dump rage
If you know your ip is full and you’re wondering what to do about it, I’d recommend hiding the tracker you have for it and playing more betterer
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
do i have to track the number of stacks as well as the amount ip absorbs for guys?
You guys are very toxic to new players, but at least you show the way
yeah it's just a very reccurent question
you also didnt say you were a new player
but also i wasnt really toxic
at all, in fact
I domt think the goal is to be toxic, not saying you did it but a lot of people will ask for help or answers, and then fight against the answers/advice
it seems like it nim usually
Didnt even know you could hit 100 stacks with 240 ilvl gear. Must never be pressing revenge
..........
also pepega is not a new player
he just apparently forgets everything every season
i am not a new player but i am also mostly ass at the game
complete mind wipe
most games
just turn your brain off and pull, if you win, keep playing, if you lose, take a break or stop
no idea where he got the idea that gear has anything to do with filling an IP
I never track how many stacks of ip I have. I just press it to not overcap on rage
IP is scaled based on some stat (idk which)
then youre doing it correctly
biger ilvl = bigger ip
versa is versa, which is boring lol
if they want it to be ignored, make it some effect that can or has to be ignored
since we can track it
Being capped at ip means you are capped by number of stacks or something else?
long as i have it right, its you can cast it 2 times
but you take a melee or fire or whatever
then it can be re-casted while at "2" stacks
it means it reaches its maximum value
which is dictated by your total health
Hi you're all cute
Simply joking around, ask away we’re happy to discuss!
Found on ivy veins it says 30%
I have no idea what ignore pain does except that it prevents my rage from being wasted when I use it properly

Hi cutie
Reading tooltips is for dumdum
Zug zug
yes it was, when last stand was a thing
You matter
i stiill using LS cuz what the hell else am i going spend it on? tan?
...... put bolster back
You spend that talent point wherever you want yogi. Live your dream.
only other major contention i have about talents is OR. (+30 rage cap)
WHY
wtf
i dont understand it
it seems really dumbe to me, just use ragge
dps things leaking into prot
because its a dps increase
If I have 100 hp and I cast ip and an enemy hits me for 2 damage, then ip eats up 1 damage and now im at 99 hp. Based on the single cast of ip, it will absorb 30 hp for me. Is that right
sure, but like how, you just dump your rage when 90
no
A single cast is not 30% of your health. The CAP is 30% of your health.
right
Just realized who asked that smfh. I'm going now.
yeah idk
In my example, how much will the single cast of ip absorb?
basically 70->130 is a bigger gap than 70->100, so you waste less rage statistically i guess
bc reducing the 70 (whatever number it actually is), you go too close to the IP cast = you can't cast revenge
so with arms being in the shitter, hows prot rn in midnight?
sturdy, low dps but tuning hasn't happened
I ain’t reading althat
certainly one of the top 6 tanks
Cant calculate with unknown weapon calculation
🤷♂️
just look at your tooltip if you want to know your current IP absorb value
it'll change constantly with buffs etc though
also won't remotely change how you play
i mean, if i go dk or paladin i will be able to craft gear for them, eh, see what happens
Right now with youe current gear can you can 1x ignore pain and then put your hp and then the ip absorb amount? Just want to see the % and I get that it varies with gear so its just an approximation
that's a very confusing sentence
don't over think it
i swear i lose brain cells every time i read something from pepega
Just assume IP is the same percentage of your hp whatever gear you have
if you have shield block active and need to spend tons of rage, hit IP
i gain brauin cells from the pure cognitive power it takes to decipher
if you just need to spend a bit hit not free revenge
okay clearly not
What percent is that?
i gain brauin cells from the pure cognitive power it takes to decipher
im just stupid
can i have this power
mods, remove his femur as punishment
Too low to care about IP
bear give power

i needs it
With self buffs only can you press ip one time. Then put into the chat your current hp number and then the absorb amount that the ip will do.
But pepega you are allowed to do 30/100
i wonder if pepega is secretly the AMR dev
why can't you do this
Why is your name australian
Not in computer atm
0.3%
i imagine most of us are yapping from work
real and true
True and real
A single ip only absorbs for 0.3% of your hp thats so trash. So if you have 100 hp and you press it then it will absorb 0.3 damage (not even 1 hp)
there is zero chance that is correct
How much IP do you gain when you’re in guardian spec and avoid raze
good lord my IQ just went negative
Nice
Hi, I will just drop my complaint here:
They killed the only fun thing BDK had
aight - hf lads
I am off to sulk
Giga burst was fun, eh Rat?
Good thing im not playing bdk
Although currently anyone raid tanking is probably told to prep one
it was fun i guess yea

So in order to get 30% hp absorb you need to have pressed ip 100 times in an 8 second window??
No
0.3% is 1 stack
Because grips?
Press IP on your lvl 80 warrior, you will see how many stacks 1 IP gives you
Ya in mythic theres a fight that if it goes live how it was in testing, will want 2 bdks
For gorefiend
#raidbuff
0.3% = 1 stack
3% = 10 stack
30% = 100 stacks
You get more than 1 stack per cast
How many stacks per cast?
Log your warrior and press ip pepega
You can test it
Not in computer atm
Why does this matter
He wanted to know % hp gives ip
Yes. So far we got 0.3% = 1 stack but need to know how many stacks are given by 1 cast
100 stacks is not 30% of your hp ?
Im confused now
the number you see are the percent its filled
100 means its 100% filled
5 means its 5% filled
Yes so you can do the same calcul basically
What is an IP stack, Nim, help - I am confused
Is Pepega getting all of you rn
i dont even know why were discussing this
No its a real question wtf
i would with a different person
im about to just ALT F4 out of disc for like 7 hours ngl
so... when are we deleting discord?
Wait no talk to me
Judging by your pfp, you shouldve already dipped out
Arms warrior is the red headed step child
You guys did something to jon blizzard
Arms about to get buffed
You pressed ip once and what % of your hp did the cast give you?
well i know its dumpster spec but oh well. love the flavor of the spec... the patch notes are just troll
If you ferment grapes to become wine, do they become raisins first
Those aren’t for season 1
Those are for the .5 patch
If Arms gets another nerf the 17th, then I can see a world where we close down the discord, as a very last resort - then flood the forums
The patch notes are for changes coming halfway through the season
at least prot warr has a guarantee spot in raid kek. AGAIN
We would never stoop to ret paladin lows. We take it like a man
There are limits, currently we got our shield shattered, arms broken and our fury is... well, spent.
Why does pwar have a guaranteed spot
Because fury/arms are underperforming (before tuning) and warr brings a raid buff
well either that or you are not brining warr buff
But again, everything is up to tuning on the 17th
Nah we got tuning to come
Theres literally nothing tangible to doom over
yer but u might as well take 2 guardian druids, and a fury warrior right now
right now 
now you bug is fixed u gained even more dps
Alright I’m done pretending I’m smart.
WHY do we go HR instead of ITF at low haste? Is it because when we have low haste, we have low APM and can’t defend ourselves adequately?
Why wouldn’t we just take ITF and get that extra haste?
Also, why am I an idiot for crafting my weapon in preseason?
Right now you might as well take 15 guardian druids 
im not sure we are getting anything before .5, and we got notes for that
Grapes are raisins
he aint wrong tho
Bear got a buff with the bug fixes
When haste is low ITF doesn’t provide enough haste to have shield block up 100% so you go HR and that fixes it
Nah they said we are getting tuning
No reason to assume arms wouldnt be tuned alongside everything else
I also remember seeing here that the devs specifically acknowledged arms
Thanks guys
Also, am I an idiot for crafting weapon pre season? I didn’t think it was that bad of an idea
youre not an idiot, just buy more gold
Its not advised but its not a huge screw-up, just means you gotta buy mats to recraft it later
If you got the cash you're fine
Got it. I have gold, but didn’t think it was a waste. Ty ty
Why would they release .5 ptr patch notes before the tuning on 17th. My guess is we dont get squat next week
Alright I’m done pretending I’m smart.
WHAT % of your hp does a single cast of IP absorb as a self buffed 240 ilvl (no last stand or rallying shout)?
I cant do anything with unknown weapon calculation
Accelerated content schedule for Worldsoul saga, it was one of their stated goals. They've literally said tuning on the 17th, saying we arent getting that is just being obtuse
too bad
topic is over
move on
log on the game and cast IP
thats it
we're not gonna give you the answer
We'll probably get the tuning notes tomorrow or over the weekend, stay posted
Fine I'll try to (if I even remember thats something I want to get by the time I log in)
And if we don’t get them tomorrow
It’s Friday
Plenty of reason to be happy on a Friday
I've your unknown weapon calculation right here
Its going to be two lines:
"Guardian Druid and Arms Warrior throughput values have been swapped"
"Shadow priest damage increased by 1000%"
well i guess we wait and see. hope you are right
Pwar damage needs a buff too
guardian Druid and arms warrior roles have been swapped
arms tank spec lets gooooo
I respect the new format of asking questions.
Bdk and brew can 2h tank too
Will it be this season where I do stupid keys like no shield block or 2h tanking mmmmh
Give us Gladiator Stance, Necrolord Banners, Triple Leap, and uhhhhh
idk all the shockwave dmg talents
banger
Also prot is good and fun in blitz for anybody wanting that insta catalyst charge.
... but, execute is bad, it does no dam... why increase the amount of time we wont press it?

im pretty sure condemn is more than "execute at 100% hp"
Surely they wont tune the condemn dam lower than exe baseline, making it barely an increase per cast in reality

If you wanted hard hitting executes, you played necrolord
you forgot reflective plating and warbringer
They should merge execute into revenge like they did for paladin (throw hammer into judgement)
💪
Actually i forgot spell block
give me skull banner you cowards
oh true
sucks we're 100% dead without spell block
true on both
I miss spellblock, it was giga value
give me skull banner but exclude specifically mages from benefiting from it
because fuck my one friend who plays mage
question time
Add to pwar mastery "your shield block % applies to physical and spell and all types of damage"
sometimes i have the shield icon over my head for spell reflect right
they were too powerful for us 
and then one time i saw an image that it cracked in half and fell left to right
WTF is that
Timeless Stratagem my beloved
is that i succesfully spell reflect
Probably
1/2 chance of dying
i wish they would have an icon that shows it rebounding instead of that
broken shiled could mean many things , lots of bad things
Spell Reflect got a high dopamine trained SFX on reflect tho
whats wrong you have it now baseline 
i know about the SFX but its like, well, it happens and then its over
and then you have to remember it again
Guys whats the best path for me to spend AP?
where craft unity
damn wtf cooler tough as nails
Give me the shadowlands green faction thing that had me wear a flag during burst whatever that was
i dont like the banner
damn im havin crazy nostalgia rn lookin at this artifact calc
S1 DC was the juice
why yes I would like to have demo last 45 seconds thank you very much
yah yah, very good idea
NELTHARIONS FURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SWOOOOOOOOOOOOSHSSSSSHHHHHHHH-YAAAAAAAARGH!
why censor r/wow
Early SL wasnt that bad, tho that might just be CN carrying good vibes, that and PvP actually was useful for gearing
conduit power and torghast 
What time will tuning be posted tomorrow?
Idk it was literally few weeks before sl launch
Thorgast was fun enough, even after it was nerfed to shit
BFA was fine
I wanted unlimted push runs of thorgast
game denied me
I am still mad about that
TWW-Beta
TWW-beta was the goat
Because thats when warr had triple leap
maybe the filthy casuals didnt
but real men were hoppin and skippin and jumpin
goin "wheeeee"
It was the time I started to play more prot (it always was my alt), so I only remember reprisal
3 leaps, casual! Said the legion 6 jumper
what is the point of maxxing out prey
cosmetics
auction sell for 67 lol
oh boy bonus rolls again
I still can't unlock nightmare mode 
nobody can
its locked until next week
SOON BUDDY
Hello, guys! We expecting anything from the tuning? Nerf? Buff? Or just nothing?
damage buff if anything
but it also depends what they do to the other outliers
i.e. bear and monk
Monk is OP as well?
Because bear is pumping. I just leveled up one bc I was bored and i was like: why am I killing everything so fast? Haha.
But monk i just can't. No class fantasy for me
monk is at a good place, i would argue, i would say most tanks should match them
if i was John Blizzard
so, this is my personal opinion again, i would hope tuning just moves everyone up to monk level and brings dotc bear down
as far as defensiveness goes we're probably one of the strongest defensively
when played correctly
Yeah, bear is fun but they're kinda squish once stuff gets harder.
I think i'm gonna be settled on warrior. I like brew but i cant get into the class fantasy. Blood is fun too but they need some more defensive strength.
there are things you will miss having on monk that you have on warrior and other way around
but its prety much the same shit
group em up, hit the blender button
I find myself not really knowing how to properly use ring of peace or the paralysis or whatever. Im still relearning warrior so not quite sure what our blender buttons are, I assume its avatar and then some other things.
its not any different from BFA, and i recall you being active back then Kreiger
ring of peace is simply time and place matters
im currently playing prot/brew, i think brew is in nice spot. i would rather see them aligning all tanks with brew level, rather than prot level (at least dmg wise, if we are talking about that)
its been awhile, Nim. been a lot of different classes and different games. im old lol.
I love how guides put talent in to Wrecking Throw but then not mention it at all anywhere
easy to learn 😄
it's mostly for the silence
if there's no shields to break or casters to silence, you can press it on CD for the world's tiniest dps increase
it does not silence ?
Opinions of trinkets to chase in preseason dungeons? Got completely zero luck running 16/16 myth dungeons these past weeks, resorting to heroic farming
Still got that juicy 201 trinket from questing
alternate question, how is warrior at handling nightmare mode prey and delves?
What guide is better ? Wowhead or Icy veins ?
Can't speak for nightmare yet but you can easily clear max delves week 1 as prot
it says it on the last line
it should be in the icy veins guide, we dont really do wowhead anymore
none, you will replace anything soon enough
if you absolutely must have an answer, sim
Definitely! Im just doing it for fun at this point! Simmed a few trinkets just now & looks like the one from final boss of blinding vale is the pick
I was initially a bit sad I didn't get all 240 but when I saw the difference between 237 to 240 is literally one single point of strength & 20 stamina i was like "ok this is perfectly fine" lmfao
does it apply also to other classes or just warr ?
varies from class to class
on the talent not the spell itself tho, maybe blizzard should like.. update tooltips when certain talent is selected, idk
no it depends on the class
and it depends on the writer
right now wowhead has a person filling in since our guide writer quit
icyveins has mwahi at least so we're good on that front
Hi guys, wondering what people are thinking of crafting for prot as a priority craft? Or crafting is not as much priority as TWW ? Wowhead last time i looked, none of the crafted items are BiS ? SO it would just be to fill gaps in gear ? Also I guess consider Shield and Sword first? Or I am massively overlooking something ?
thanks 🙂
bis lists are kinda pointless in retail btw, you just make decisions based on the gear you have and the gear available to you
thats also true
Fair point, but knowing what is BiS can determine what I farm and therefore dictates what is available to me? But I take your point onboard.
It can be helpful for an idea for trinkets, but the rest not really
gear just isn't that crazy different in retail, trinkets aside
for the most part you'll just grab tier/ilvl upgrades
and then craft the slots that just refuse to drop for you later in the season
Fair enough, this is my second season of WoW - I will concede to superior knowledge. Thanks for the advice 🙂
It’s just the bis items are bis only if you have ALL of it at myth ilvl, you change 1 thing you have a different list + a ton of gear combination are in margin error of the bis list
they do bis list bc they are asked to do them, for clicks
In case you are unfamiliar with the concept, we always recommend simming your gear. Simulations provide an idealized "perfectly played" dps number based on the gear options you give it. Helps a lot with figuring out what pieces are better. While sims do not account for defensiveness, the general rule of thumb is that if it increases your damage, it increases your survivability (with exceptions for shield/defensive trinkets/defensive talents). Raidbots.com is free to use, and has a companion addon called Simulationcraft to pull a profile of your character to use
Like Happy said, BIS lists are only truly BIS if you have every other piece of gear on that list, as that list is essentially the gear that gives the highest reasonable simulation number when worn in tandem
On an unrelated note, warrior is the only one of these sets that looks good fight me
Those shoulder blades cannot be aerodynamic
Since when did warriors want to be aerodynamic
To charge faster
I want the wind to break upon my body
I charge through it, the blades slice any resistance
Its quite practical
Only if youre running sideways. Gotta have the blades rotated 90° like a shark fin for maximum stability and less drag so we keep an even keel during leap
BREAK YOURSELF UPON MY BODY!
FEEL THE STRENGHT OF THE EARTH!
Everyone explained it really well, I just want to add that if you’re looking for a way to focus on farming the best items for you, there’s a sim style called droptimizer that you can sim gear drops from dungeons and/or raids to see what pieces specifically benefit your current gear set
Hey guys quick question, how are you guys tracking party cooldowns now? OmniCD stopped working for me, and the other addons that used to track party interrupts and CDs don’t seem to work anymore either.
Is there a new addon people are using, or do I actually have to start using my brain now? lol
We dont
you dont
omnicd is gone
most people knew it was gonna be gone while the beta was running
I see
you know by asking in voice, otherwise its not your problem
It seems thumbs up or reaction are disabled this chat (Or i am even worse with discord than I am WoW). Just wanted to say thanks again to Pash and Cam 🙂
if youre want it specifically for kicks, the amount of casters are not as many as TWW, so its not really that needed
Got it, that just means pugging will be harder now xD
it will be around the same
I feel like in a full pug situation, omnicd didnt help much
It just told me who messed up
v good point
a cd being available does not mean people will use it, even tracking stuff means absolutely jack shit if the people use them at random times
it will be no different now
you just dont have visibility
out of sight, out of mind
Ya if anything it was most useful when i was with the people im already in vc with anyways. Was 1 less thing to have to comm
Yeah, I guess in pugs you're right it only tells me who messed up...
You know what i miss more than omnicd
Deaths in details
Seeing why or how they died
Now i need to check logs, and i dont even have my logger doing m0
I’ll never tell you when my CDs are up
You dont need to
I have a mental clock keeping track of you
I know every time you popped cds leveling
I’m so loved

hell yeah that looks badass
you can check in blizz dps meter
so i cant see why not in detial
Unless they added it, it just tells me when people died
Not the damage/healing up to the death
I like to know why/how someone died
Does anyone know if the abundance quest for the champion gear is retroactively completed? Just realized I did the event before hitting renown 9
nah it doesnt
just do one, it does not need to be active
nor you have to spend the gathering rock currency whatever its called
Ooooo nice!
Side note, did the voidstorm defense event alone last night (dead in the middle of 4 in the morning) finished the event, got quest completion progress, but did not recieve the weekly cache 😭
Good news is, it scales down the mobs to just a handful of nonelites, but was surprised to not find it reported anywhere
if you mean the world quest completion, its been reported
not sure where youre looking, but it has
Yeah thats the one! Its cool! Just glad theyre aware of it
its a garbage reward anyway so i wouldnt consider it a priority
but being reported does not automatically mean they are aware of it
im sorry if this has been asked but is it worth crafting blues with vet crests for raid next week?
Of you use vet crests they are purples. It's 80 crests to craft an item that's a couple iLvl below Vet max, IIRC.
So, maybe? Depends on if you get drops in all slots from M0 this week.
It's fewer crests to upgrade a M0 item than it is to craft.
maxxed all my loot this week and still have a 224 chest and 230 shoulders so assume crafting would be good to replace those
vet crests will drop from anything when the season starts
so dont feel bad about spending them on whatever
is it a good buf for prot war Midnight Patch 12.0.5?
it depends on how the tuning will go on the 17th
12.0.5 is further out anyway
no reason to think about it right now
tyvm for the help both of you
You guys think they will buf prot dmg 17th
we're hoping for them, but we're not mind readers
21500 damage absorbed out of total of 329,000 hp with 1 IP press. so 1 press ~~ 6.5% of hp. jesus was that so hard??
the wars that spent more time typing in here their thoughts instead of just doing it
i didn't use that formula I just pressed it and checked my total hp but ur better than the others
you mean this?
even if i wanted to i cant resolve the formula without having your very charcacter specific AP or total HP
much less while im actually working
Why is this still a thing 😭
with this level of peak bis gear I wasn't really looking for an exact number just a rough baseline. like "its about 5-7% with this early gear give or take" something like that
but anyway ty for giving me steps on how I can check
@lusty grotto want to do any m0s?
i cant rn
no worries just checking in
https://x.com/i/status/2032218857260114013 literally cant sleep so here sum good news
2am 
old af
ur old
indeed

🤝
it took you six hours, must’ve been kinda hard
One day.. u. Will be the boomer
just did a 5 tank mythic 0 den and it went so smoothly. druid ended up doing as much dps as some dps i've seen
pure joy
I do more dam than any Druid
hey y'all. how are you handling your spark usage going forward?
Planning to be in mythic week 2 with my guild. Seems like a lot of differing opinions on to hold or not
most guilds are just following larias doc
and mine included, but it's a little ambiguous
it's kinda like if you feel like it go for it, haha
I’m truly perplexed why content creators are universally low on prot warr. I don’t take their opinions seriously, but it is interesting to see that not a one believes warr to be anything more than mid at best
does it matter?
content creators arent there to validate differing opinions, they do it as a job
Who here ready for the giga notes tomorrow.
I assume it’s like fantasy football pre draft rankings
Where the “experts” all essentially copy each other to limit risk
And then nothing works out that way at all anyway
all content creators are the same
Gonna be a ton of seething specs can’t wait for the tears
anywhere, inside or outside of videogames
they farm any type of content, be it negative or positive
its their job
so whatever pulls the most hits, pays
and thats what they do
“Engagement,” I guess, as they say
right
Do we know notes drop?
if engagement pays, then thats what they do
fridays are typically when they post tuning for next week
Tomorrow around 2 pm pacific
Maybe later actually
Prob like 5 pm pacific
At first I thought would see major buffs but now I’m expecting to see minor, small buff
Gonna see a lot of conservative tuning tomorrow
Won’t be as impactful as many are hoping unfortunately
Interested to see what they do with BDK
if anything. Honestly they might just ignore it at this point
30% aura buff incoming.
Warrior in general won’t be seeing much tomorrow because a lot of the situation is overblown
People keep saying warr bad it’s some weird community backward psyop or something
Inevitably to keep warr down in the long run
Will see some apex tuning and that’s about it
dooming
So apparently title cutoff wasnt prepatch, it was midnight launch?
Because someone in my guild was just awarded title, they were like resil 17 during season and then grinded out resil 20 during prepatch
Kek
Yah there was a blue post about the title situation they’re gonna be removing the title from many people that were awarded it erroneously
I'm not clapping cheeks as 240 fury hard enough LOL
wait where
pics or it didnt happen
It stinks in here.
Nope, just smells bad.
Smells like winners
More like weiners.
We r all very powerful in here
If u r reading then then u r more powerful than even u know
moooom come pick me up codenomad is being mean 
dh must be pulling like a potato
they were lol
i dunno i dont super enjoy pulling so big that we effectively wipe lol
normal big pull sure,
easier said than done
ive got a word for that
a dk shouldn't be able to enter light
it ends with ussy
my stats are fucked anyway
dont be hating, im loving HDR eversong
its like having discord in light mode
absolute blazing sun flashbang
I should call her
vault keystone is effectively 45 minutes of i have to be hyper awake and aware of things that are going on
who
you know its bad when you are told 5+ targets Clap is after Rampage LOL then this shit exists
i can only commit to 1 maybe 2 of those events per day
ok Nim 🙁 sorry
dw, he does this to everyone lol
who
is there an owl in here
no, who asked
who
and whatever happens happens
if its too hard
ill quit
simple statement
i got a short fuse when it comes to bullshit and im beyond caring long enough to argue
Do you need to talk buddy?
nah, i just tend to burn bridges these days is all
hes upset with me, cuz i said he does that type of thing, gets on peoples asses
Well whoever they are I’m sure they’re not mad at you and it’s just a misunderstanding.
but tbh, i am a crashout andy anyways
get mad about some dumb crap that doesnt matter
lumber, some mythic keystone affix or ability i think is dumb
that nobody asked for or gave a shit about, always rooted in truth or connected to it
what y'all think the Go to will be for Raid MT or Col?
depends on tomorrow's tuning
but as it stands it will differ only by fight damage profiles
there's nothing putting one above the other
Bro you coulda asked me
I’m in your guild and play prot smh
Nim is a literal rat
But also nim is correct
lol
why is your guild bleeding in
Xlor is new to the guild he hasn’t learned yet I don’t sleep
yuh huh
the passage of time is inevitable
nuh uh
run from it, hide from it, its arrive all the same
never
bro is thanos
get his ass jakey
wonder if i can off-play prot while keeping gear stats mostly for fury
trying to keep mastery up with crit
thats fine
nuh uh
is that poe lol
got your first mirror yet?
bruh I have to do something wrong, theres no way preys take this long lmao
yes u r
gimme a short tutorial then
u just disarm traps in the world quest
Take prey, go to zone, find the prey world qust, do that and stay in that area click traps
yes
no
if you get ambused by target, use the disarmed traps you collect on target for instant kill..
if you do that, then a prey takes around 5-8 mins depending on how you play
and mind you this is probably not the intended way to play the mechanic
disarming traps for a few min straight in a world quest
and these traps are always there in the WZ?
Okay yes, these traps really speed up things LOL

