protection

[undone beacon]

Not even close lil gup

[lusty grotto]

i can think of two that can

[sand condor]

Sit down

[tribal wharf]

i like this

[lusty grotto]

case in point

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sad-angry-crying-TpsuCxwsNH8gatbpR5

[sand condor]

But Nim, do tell me, is it a good memory or…

[lusty grotto]

neutral

[sand condor]

Ill take that W

My reputation is clean

[solid sun]

I remember you being a POS tbh

[drowsy comet]

POS?

[lusty grotto]

a postal service

[undone beacon]

@sand condor peep the pc case

[lusty grotto]

[solid sun]

Correct

[dusky canopy]

Yo that’s hot

🔥

[drowsy comet]

dam thats big ass fan

[lusty grotto]

is it?

it looks quite small

[sand condor]

Fire setup

[undone beacon]

Nah it’s a normal sized desk fan

[lusty grotto]

by american standards

[drowsy comet]

ay im sure it has a great personality

[sand condor]

I play on a laptop

So

[drowsy comet]

ofc american

what else could it be

[undone beacon]

This the setup

[sand condor]

You must have dementia

[drowsy comet]

[sand condor]

The mouspad…..

[drowsy comet]

hm fan is actually quite normal

the mousepad is quite small yea, how do you play with it tho

not judging

[lusty grotto]

uhh yeah fuck that mousepad

[undone beacon]

It was a gift from my momma

[lusty grotto]

uhh yeah thats a good mousepad

[undone beacon]

I also play with super high sensitivity so I don’t move the mouse much

[dusky canopy]

That’s not the kind of fan cooler the YouTube video was talking about pash smh my head

[solid sun]

Pash has surgical precision with high sensitivity

Spins the camera around 5 times moving the mouse about 2.33 inches

Never missclicks

[drowsy comet]

i play on 800dpi im chillin

[lusty grotto]

pash you never land a shot on shooters do you

[solid sun]

Pash's indie games aren't shooters

[lusty grotto]

are you saying there arent indie shooters

smh my head

[drowsy comet]

i got a 49x42cm mousepad, big one

[solid sun]

Pash's ones aren't

[dusky canopy]

I did 800 dpi when I was a pubg main

[lusty grotto]

pash plays deadlock

[dusky canopy]

But I bumped up to 1300 now

[undone beacon]

I struggle which is why I don’t play many shooters lmao

If a game has a melee option tho I’m all in

[lusty grotto]

i 800 dpi too

[sand condor]

Valid

[lusty grotto]

oh nvm im at 1400 dpi, but low sensitivity

[sand condor]

Higher dpi > low dpi

[lusty grotto]

not really

[solid sun]

1500 dpi

[sand condor]

There’s been a recent study

[lusty grotto]

it takes some getting used to it

[sand condor]

But its itrelevant for wow

[drowsy comet]

ewwwwww

[sand condor]

It IS better for fps games (you do re-adjust your sens to it)

[dusky canopy]

I over correct snap shots when I’m above 800 dpi

I found that was what worked the best for me

On wow it doesn’t matter so I play 1300

[lusty grotto]

im not sure about this one, but it has had 0 negative effects after i moved it up

with low sens of course

hence i thought i was still on 800

[sand condor]

Its a tiny marginal improvement and it matters in cs (a little)

But ye its pointless for wow

[lusty grotto]

i see

[drowsy comet]

Vic what tank u gonna go into season 1 or are u waiting for the 17th?

ignores me completly i see

[solid sun]

Vic is very busy

Relax

[cunning pecan]

Noob question sorry, I'm going to be tanking for my CE guild this tier and I've never had to tank in raid before. Is there anything I should know about? Any recommendations for addons or must haves?

[lusty grotto]

its not any different than tanking anything else

except it could be more boring

[dusky canopy]

Knowing when to taunt swap is basically the bread and butter of raid tanking

Other than that keep yourself alive

[solid sun]

Yeah brew some coffee so you can be sure to stay awake

[dusky canopy]

My blood is actually coffee

I’m covered

[solid sun]

Heck yeah

[cunning pecan]

Any resource recommendations for where to find that info or is that a go by feels & tooltips/videos thing?

[lusty grotto]

if a solo soak like saladbar shows up, you need to understand what to use and when

[dusky canopy]

You can watch most heroic boss guides on YouTube and they’ll cover taunt swaps or tank mechanics

[lusty grotto]

but we'll see if that shows etc

[dusky canopy]

Specifics you ask here

Mythic guides of course once those release

[solid sun]

Bro you need smaller fingers or a bigger phone lmao

[lusty grotto]

any relevant raid guide will do

and im sure sense will post vids on his clears

[dusky canopy]

Sense is the goat for Prot warrior

[solid sun]

Do taunt swaps usually change from H to M?

[lusty grotto]

yes

not extremely common, but yes they can change

[dusky canopy]

Usually how you position a boss or how you move it is what changes the mos between heroic/mythic

[solid sun]

Well regardless you’ll achieve a solid baseline of understanding doing H before M

[dusky canopy]

Sometimes they add extra tank busters

[lusty grotto]

absolutely

[dusky canopy]

Like didn’t rashok go from 2 to 3

I guess it was still the same swap

Just had to count

[lusty grotto]

the swap speed required is faster

also

rashanan, loomi, rashok come to mind

[sand condor]

How muchbcoffee do you drink

[dusky canopy]

Way to much it’s actually probably shorting my life span

But I love coffee so much

Send it

[sand condor]

10+ cups?

A day?

[cerulean tusk]

• Everyone will be waiting for you to learn the fight first. So do your prep work, look up fight strat and another tank players vod.
• work with your cotank, he is your co-pilot. Establish a good communication form, so you two can fix any tanking issues with one mind.
• You dont matter, but you are the world. You decide how easy a fight will be with movement and positioning, do what is best for your group. Ignore the random hate you might get, if it isnt constructive feedback you ignore it
• keep things consistent try to always do the same movement, same CDs, same plan. It is repetitive, yet will save your group 100s of wipes.

[dusky canopy]

Oh dude easily

[solid sun]

Does coffee limit your lifespan?

[sand condor]

Hell YEAH

[dusky canopy]

I’m probably at the 600mg recommended maximum or higher

[sand condor]

i am on like 12 + monster + pre

[cerulean tusk]

Living limits lifespan

[sand condor]

Oh im way over

[undone beacon]

i knew a girl in college who gave up coffee and went straight to caffeine pills

[sand condor]

I just IP when the heart stops

Thats a fire solution

[solid sun]

Are you tracking that IP

[sand condor]

I should try it

[dusky canopy]

Like I literally get the face aches from caffeine sometimes lmao

[sand condor]

Nah that IP will run out randomly and ill he dead

[solid sun]

Dude

Your face aches???

[dusky canopy]

Yeah that’s a thing when you drink to much caffeine

Well consume

Doesn’t have to be drank

[sharp gale]

in 30min i hope this m0 world tour give me a mf weapon

[solid sun]

Like does it happen when you’ve had too much? Or does it happen when you haven’t had your normal amount

[lusty grotto]

best of luck happy

[dusky canopy]

To much in short amount of time

[solid sun]

Holy guacamole

[undone beacon]

did m0 tour on my bear, only pieces nonvet now are chest and a ring, pretty decent going into raid

[sand condor]

Ive had those too

[dusky canopy]

Yeah my doc yells at me for it but im addicted to caffeine

[sand condor]

Its pretty common

[dusky canopy]

lol

[cerulean tusk]

I hope happy get 0 loot

[sand condor]

Doctors dont know the half of it

[undone beacon]

i mean caffeine addiction is a very real thing

[solid sun]

I didn’t know caffeine could make your face ache

[sand condor]

Im aware im livving it

[solid sun]

It seems like such a nothingburger drug

[dusky canopy]

No you can absolutely harm yourself consuming to much

[drowsy comet]

kinda took a few days off wow completely to not get burnt out immidiately when the season starts lol

[undone beacon]

ever since starting work in medical i cant stand doctors

[dusky canopy]

Like I’d imagine if my wife consumed an entire pot of coffee in a day like I do her heart might skip a beat or something

Lmao

My tolerance is higher from so much consumption

[undone beacon]

like i know they are very knowledgable about their fields but holy fuck they don't know more about IT than I do and they need to fucking acknowledge that

[solid sun]

I acknowledge you

[dusky canopy]

32oz bubba cup goes hard

[solid sun]

Brew please don’t hurt yourself with the coffee

I would miss you if you died

[dusky canopy]

I’ll be good coffee forever

[undone beacon]

brew out here with the iv drip

they dont call him brew for nothin

[solid sun]

Pash are you okay

[dusky canopy]

I’m telling you coffee is what’s in my veins 😂

[solid sun]

Do you want me to pretend to be an expert in the field of cyber security and send you an email about how skilled you are

So you can show your work people

[sharp gale]

im coffee+coca cola+cigarette addict

[undone beacon]

i just want these people to stop blaming me for their applications running poorly when its not security's fault

I have half a cup of coffee in the morning and thats all that sustains me until dinner

[solid sun]

What about lunch

[dusky canopy]

I kicked the cigarettes many years ago but ye did that too for a while

[solid sun]

I used to smoke

[undone beacon]

i dont do lunch

usually i simply forget

[silver trout]

Mmmmm caffeine

My Dr yells at me when I get over a gram

[dusky canopy]

What they don’t know won’t hurt em

It might hurt you but wcyd

[solid sun]

My doc gets mad when I do a little coke

But I mean

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

What a swing

We upgraded from caffeine to coke

[solid sun]

It tastes good. It’s all bubbly and fizzy. Pairs amazing with tacos

[sharp gale]

soon we gonna talk about our beer period

it's not alcoholism

[drowsy comet]

ew wtf

[solid sun]

Three street tacos and a fountain coke

[undone beacon]

beer is meh i prefer hard liquors

[solid sun]

Oooooo weeeee, it’s about to go down at lunch time

[undone beacon]

I also prefer to do shots and get it over with if i wanna get drunk

love me some shots

[cerulean tusk]

"and get it over with"

[drowsy comet]

alcohol bad, i stay with tea

[solid sun]

Like Long Island iced teas?

[undone beacon]

sometimes i want to enjoy an alcoholic beverage, sometimes i just want to feel the effects

[dusky canopy]

I had one of those grandparents who made it to their 90s having a drink every day

I’m not buying that it’s a problem

[sharp gale]

ME TOO HOW THEY DO IT

[drowsy comet]

no lemon ice tea, ice cold

[cerulean tusk]

Pash you worry me, please dont become an AA

[drowsy comet]

:)

[solid sun]

Alcohol is good for your heart isn’t it? Don’t they say a drink a day helps the heart

[sharp gale]

90y old 15° beer can everytime he eats idk

[undone beacon]

Trust me im good, my rule is that i never drink by myself. Helps me stay off the bad path

[cerulean tusk]

They say wine is, not alcohol

[solid sun]

Sounds like alcohol to me

[cerulean tusk]

Prob more the anitoxidants that is in red wine

[solid sun]

I’ll just eat some red grapes with a beer

[sharp gale]

you can buy wine which doesn't have sulfites

[solid sun]

You say potato I say potato

[dusky canopy]

I say use shield block
You say grrr
I say shield wall
You say grr
I say shield slam
You say grr

[undone beacon]

bear

[solid sun]

Meow?

[cerulean tusk]

That moment you learn that bears moo

[sharp gale]

rawr

[undone beacon]

that moment you learn that bears uwu

[cerulean tusk]

I aint even joking

:ladge:

oh no

my g button is saying goodbye soon

[undone beacon]

:ladge:

[sharp gale]

idk why i got a AI vid with a pug riding a rhino this morning, *they are listening *

[solid sun]

What a lucky pug

:ladge:

[cerulean tusk]

gg, saved

bent pins into place, now to hope that it lasts

[cunning pecan]

Thank you. Sorry for the late reply had to do some work.

[cunning pecan]

Thank you.

[dusky canopy]

No worries chat here anytime

[cerulean tusk]

I spotted one!

I can die happy now

[dusky canopy]

How do you get anvil shoulder mog?

[drowsy comet]

time to log into wow again

[strong forum]

you mean d4

new season just started and servers are fried

[lusty grotto]

you mean RE Requiem

[strong forum]

the 10hr long game that costs 70 bucks?

yeah nah

[lusty grotto]

yeee

better than dropping 90 for 5 day early access

[strong forum]

if my game doesnt get me 1hr of fun per 1€ spent

bad game

[strong forum]

for what

you mean wow?

[lusty grotto]

just the general regulars here

[strong forum]

i guess yeah

"early" expansion access is a scam

cuz pre-season is 2-4 weeks of nothing

[lusty grotto]

[daring marlin]

https://fixupx.com/kourravt/status/2031184044491432153?s=46

Kourra 🐀✨ bRat Vtuber (@KourraVT)

Message to all the dps out there.
︀︀
︀︀Sincerely, your tank.

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FixupX · Mar 10, 2026, 1:43 AM

[lusty grotto]

tank ego

[daring marlin]

Disrespectfully, pull bigger

[strong forum]

i love it when dps pull for me

cuz then i dont have to

[lusty grotto]

yeee

[strong forum]

unless its them ninjapulling with their fat asses

then its cringe

[daring marlin]

The chad tank says "more mobs to clap? good"

[strong forum]

exactly

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[lusty grotto]

[strong forum]

warri doesnt give a fuck about pullsize unless its dot/unblockable cunts

[lusty grotto]

colossus chads love it even more

"oh i dont need to gather? fuck yea lets go"

[jagged pier]

[solid sun]

I actually had a pretty miserable experience in Blind Vale last night with people pulling for me and then leaving casters in Zimbabwe

Just turreting forever

0/10 would prefer not ever again

[daring marlin]

The best part is if the big ass pull results in a wipe you can just point to the DPS "hey they pulled the extra stuff not me"

It's win/win for us

[solid sun]

Sure I don’t have to take the blame but I also have to run back

And then experience them pulling it all over again

Hooray

[lusty grotto]

why run back

just be a tank

and blast the pull

[daring marlin]

we simply don't die

yo were waystones in TWW?

[lusty grotto]

yes

they got put in there

[dusky canopy]

Jokes on them I’m adding packs to the pull if it’s one pack at a time

[daring marlin]

I like that addition so we know where the respawns are

[daring marlin]

same bro

[dusky canopy]

YoU pUlL iT yOu TaNk It

:pantsgrab:

[solid sun]

Nah if I die because some idiots decide to pull an entire wing of a dungeon I shouldn’t just magically decide not to die

[lusty grotto]

why would you die

[solid sun]

They just shouldn’t pull the entire wing. That isn’t tank ego. It’s simply intelligence

[daring marlin]

ROFL BRO I'M TRYING TO LIFT HERE

[drowsy comet]

D4Bad

[dusky canopy]

😂

[strong forum]

wrong

[dusky canopy]

wrong

[daring marlin]

I'll prolly jump into D4 again at some point

PALLY!!!!

[dusky canopy]

Is this the season I pre paid for?

[drowsy comet]

Warlock is gonna rock

[dusky canopy]

Like when I got paladin early access

[drowsy comet]

Pally is okay

looks decent

but nothing ever comes to Pally from D2

[strong forum]

no this is a filler season

[drowsy comet]

Yea

[strong forum]

until xpac end of april

[daring marlin]

speaking of warlock

Destro is gonna be so fun in AA

[drowsy comet]

Oh nice you can read my messages Guilford

[daring marlin]

tree boss adds

RoF owns

[drowsy comet]

warlock in d4 is gonna be pretty cool, when it comes to the demon forms and being able to ride a demon lol

But yea, Season start is soon in WoW and im gonna be pretty hooked on M+ for atleast a while lol

wanna face the M+ toxicity so badly, I can smell it already

[dusky canopy]

Yeah D4 isn’t happening for me until I’m full heroic gear and playing the waiting game for vault every week

[daring marlin]

They need to turn the AC on in here

I almost slipped doing rows cuz it's so humid surfaces are slick

disgusting

[drowsy comet]

Yea

[rough hazel]

Man its great to be able to track ignore pain as a bar with absorb again ended up making my own addon

[lusty grotto]

not this shit again

@warm plinth

[daring marlin]

nimchip has been baited

[lusty grotto]

never have

[daring marlin]

muhahahahaha

[lusty grotto]

i doubt that

[unreal yarrow]

To obvious, has to be bait

[daring marlin]

bamboozled bro

[lusty grotto]

its way too fucking common to think its bait or not

especially if they add "i ended up making my own addon"

[solid sun]

They did the chatting emote

[coarse bay]

Addon slop

[lusty grotto]

even if it is bait

[coarse bay]

Hey grok, make me an IP addon that tracks the amount, the %, the stacks, and tells me when to press it

[lusty grotto]

we shouldnt fucking meme about it

way too many people take it seriously

and it has to stop

[coarse bay]

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-hynes-hynies-the-mistletoe-secret-oh-does-it-does-it-gif-25601988

[solid sun]

https://tenor.com/view/we-have-to-stop-this-end-it-stop-we-need-to-stop-this-you-need-to-end-it-gif-15060657

[mighty valley]

the weirdest thing to me about the "how do i track ip" questions is that people want to see... the numerical value?

yall are NOT doing mathematics on the damage you're taking every second

[strong forum]

its a valid question, if you are clueless about pwar for now

[silver trout]

So wait, why are we not tracking it anymore? Do we just try to keep it ip based on vibes?

[lusty grotto]

wdym anymore

we never did

except in EXTREMELY HIGH SCALING CONTENT

[mighty valley]

99% of the time, your current ip value/duration doesn't change your decision making about when to press it

[lusty grotto]

which barely applies to anyone here

[mighty valley]

it's worth having on your screen once you're comfy on pwarrior and doing hard stuff, but that's the 1%

[silver trout]

I used to keep track of it because I’d forget about it while zug zuging hard

[mighty valley]

if you're using it like you should to prevent capping rage, it'll be up enough

[daring marlin]

Was IP ever tracked even during Legion? lol

[dusky canopy]

Idk bro I saw yoda-dzballs double press ip before a tank buster in a +25

I should play like that too

[daring marlin]

I thought it was just SEND BABY SEND

[mighty valley]

for most people, most situations, it's screen clutter

[silver trout]

I’ll have to think on that

[lusty grotto]

you forgetting to press it only means you werent using rage

which is the bad part

[silver trout]

I haven’t done hard content since shadowlands so I’m easing back in the role

But I can press revenge more 🤣

[lusty grotto]

you can press both

with correct rage management

and you dont press revenge as thane unless TC and SS are on cd

i gotta make something i can post instead of explaining the concept 2 million times

[daring marlin]

do it YOU WON'T

[lusty grotto]

i got an hour meeting so i just might

[solid sun]

I found brew

[dusky canopy]

[dusky canopy]

LOL

💯

[ebon geyser]

Skip the meeting we are more important.

[silver trout]

Ahhh. I’m playing colossus for more zug zug

[lusty grotto]

doesnt matter

[drowsy comet]

the most boomer thing Ive seen, wow 😄

[solid sun]

As either hero talent you use IP as a rage dump

[lusty grotto]

IP use still applies

and you still need rage so generators are prio'd

TC less so but

[solid sun]

And it’s off the gcd so it isn’t a situation where you’re choosing ip or something else. 70+ rage is ip time. Send it

[lusty grotto]

still relevant

[ebon geyser]

Thane is so satisfying

My clappy boi

[daring marlin]

bro is vlad the impaler

[silver trout]

Gotcha, I’ll adjust and spend more time looking at how it’s working out play style wise, I’m not really dying at all in anything so far so it hasn’t been a priority… I’m sure that’s going to change when the season starts

[solid sun]

Yeah everything is super forgiving rn and also pwar is quite strong defensively

[ebon geyser]

Only time I have died recently is when I pull the whole tier 7 delve and varessa stay chilling hitting one mob and i don't get healed

[ionic fern]

I miss Brann.

[solid sun]

Mwahi would you consider leveling on an NA server so you can help me delve

I trust you more than the blood elf rogue

[silver trout]

I wish we could pick our delve buddies

[solid sun]

Who would be your delve buddy

[tribal wharf]

i 100% think you should have choice to use brann

more so if you already leveled shit out of him

[silver trout]

I like brann because he’d AOE stuff

Var doesn’t

[tribal wharf]

i like brann cuz dorf

[silver trout]

Tho she’s not bad on single target

[tribal wharf]

i think it should be, you have to hit lvl 10 or 25 with valeera

and then u can swap to other if u wish

[solid sun]

We really need a lumberjack buddy

So we can get some logging done during delves

Also it’s weird when the assassin rogue lady goes mining

[tribal wharf]

even that lost ark game has better lumbering, than wow

and that game is getting shutdown

[solid sun]

It made perfect sense when Brann did it

[ionic fern]

Only I can be as useless as Valera.

Valeera*

[solid sun]

The rogue doing it is so out of place to me

[ionic fern]

I actually have a lvl 10 mage on NA servers cause I needed a NA char to post feedback on NA warrior forums.

[tribal wharf]

i will have you know

yogi in 2005

2006

was dwarf rogue

mining

engi

[solid sun]

Dwarves mining just makes sense

[solid sun]

So there’s a chance!?

[tribal wharf]

eventually when mining became reduntant, (cata ish) i swapped to enchanting

[drowsy comet]

first time I received a compliment about my pulls, by a dps

[tribal wharf]

sort of like elves picking flowers

[ionic fern]

Yesss

[solid sun]

I can’t wait

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFfurMYHJk0

i want skill based fishing in wow

like with helicopter flying, compared to dragon flying

unless its in the dungeon where u fish for 0/6 food offerings

[sand condor]

Ofcourse all the m0 loot i get

Is the stuff i got already

[solid sun]

Hey Vic I found you too

[drowsy comet]

lmao really?

[sand condor]

Huh?

[solid sun]

#protection message

[sand condor]

Yeah just head

[sand condor]

AYYYYYYYYY

that fire

Can u steal it and then mail it to me

[solid sun]

Sure

@mighty valley how does it feel to be fully leveled

[lusty grotto]

@daring marlin i made it

but its massive

[mighty valley]

I didn't play last night, wife was tired, so I'm still 89.5

But we did finish Justified Season 2 instead

[solid sun]

We’re basically together now

[lusty grotto]

i can probably cut it down a bit

so i dont spam the entire goddamn channel

[daring marlin]

what a guy

Nimchip, Man of the People

[ebon geyser]

Wait... you EU

[ionic fern]

Correct, that's why i'm on at normal hours.

[solid sun]

I can’t wait to delve with Mwahi

Everyone gonna be jealous about how high and far we push

[coarse bay]

[jovial cradle]

Am I the only one this is low quality for and can't zoom in to read?

[coarse bay]

Nope

Its all a blur to me

[ionic fern]

We don't stop until we hit atleast +6.

[lusty grotto]

its not final

[coarse bay]

Hi res behind paywall

[lusty grotto]

i did it that way on purpose

[coarse bay]

Gotta sub to nim’s OF

[ionic fern]

What is that?

[lusty grotto]

my IP manifesto

[solid sun]

Nim’s OF is pwar facts and pics of his ankles

[coarse bay]

Pwar gospel

[ebon geyser]

And mwahi that explains why u ignore me in NA and reply when I was stationed in EU lol..jk

[jovial cradle]

what a coincidence, i love pwars and ankles

[ionic fern]

That's your fault, ngl.

Living in the wrong timezone,smh.

[ebon geyser]

I miss it though

NA would beta test raids before EU

Lol

[ionic fern]

Yess.

[ebon geyser]

[solid sun]

Mwahi how’d you come up with your name

Let’s get some mwahi lore

[ionic fern]

That's a great question.

I can't remember.

[ebon geyser]

Also does sense still plays?

[solid sun]

Is it like the sound mwa for a kiss on the cheek and then you say Hi afterwards?

[ionic fern]

The only Mwahi lore you're going to get is that i'm supposed to be writing the season 1 guide right now but i just pressed "queue" on HOTS.

[ionic fern]

Ya, he's still around.

[ionic fern]

No. o.o

Funnily enough, most people pronounce it as "maui".

[solid sun]

You’re Dwayne the rock Johnson

I knew it

[toxic pewter]

where can i read that ip manifesto

[solid sun]

Sub to Nim’s OF

[toxic pewter]

lmao

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-money-futurama-gif-6882124657810317443

[lusty grotto]

why do you want to, you should know it already

[toxic pewter]

cuz i like redin

[solid sun]

APB wants to proofread your work

[toxic pewter]

true

[solid sun]

APB had like 7 years /played

Probably killed all of us in wpvp

[ionic fern]

I also want to learn how to IP.

[lusty grotto]

SMH

[toxic pewter]

ido be bloodthirsty

[solid sun]

Do y’all remember that one time APB killed Pash in his own home

Fucked up

[toxic pewter]

im goin to sennd pash a gift

it long overdue

[ionic fern]

I still can't believe apb is the official feelycrafter and he hasn't even feelycrafted anything.

[toxic pewter]

[lusty grotto]

ok ima post it

but

your discords will crash

[toxic pewter]

it true im lazy af unfortuantly

[lusty grotto]

cause it long

i take no responsability

[ionic fern]

How long can it be to say "Use IP to avoid Rage capping".

[solid sun]

Can I be the replacement feelycrafter

[ionic fern]

[toxic pewter]

lol

[tribal wharf]

Don't let a customer pass you by, just make money and don't ask why.

[lusty grotto]

hohoho

Lets talk Ignore Pain (IP)

What is IP?

IP is a partial absorb which helps "smooth out" damage, after our other mitigation tools. This ability is naturally up on us as with proper rage use, so its not something you should heavily focus on. IP is secondary to Shield Block (SB), which is our strongest active mitigation by a huge margin.

Why is it important?

Since our biggest maintainable mitigation is covered by SB, we use IP as a rage dump. It enables us to consume rage in between GCDs (its off the global cd or off-gcd/ogcd) and provides the most time efficient rage consumption to help us get faster Anger Management (AM) cooldown reduction (CDR) for both Wall and Avatar, and to get fatter and more rage generating Shield Slams (SS) via Violent Outburst.

What is the correct way of using it?

We use it at 70+ rage. That is, if you have 70 or more rage you press it. There is no other condition. You press it regardless of IP amount or status, since the rage consumption is far more important. You never press it below 70 rage, even to apply it on the start of a pull. The only exception applies to players that are way way way on top of the curve, that is: || if you're in extremely high scaling content, Rank 1 Keys, or Race to World First, and understand how managing rage works, are comfortable with resource management, you might benefit from using it to cover for edge cases.||

Should I focus on optimizing it?

No. The only thing you have to focus on is your rage bar, not the status of IP. Using it at 70+ rage ensures you have enough rage for both SB and other spenders if you're unlucky with Strategist procs for SS. The exception above applies.

Should I track it? Do I need to see it on my UI?

In the vast majority of cases, tracking it is not recommended or needed. Outside of that, tracking IP can instead make you play worse as you focus more heavily into it or overwhelm you. As Colossus you could track if its up, but its value should not matter. The spoiler "top of the world curve warriors" section applies here as well.

But I'm dying! But my HPS! But my healer says!

An IP will not save you. Its not a heal, its a partial absorb. If you're dying as a Prot Warrior, chances are that you're simply not using the rest of your defensive kit correctly. Prot Warrior HPS also means nothing, we're not BDKs or any other self sustain reliant tank. You're here to mitigate in a preventative manner, self sustain is very secondary.

But i need rage for revenge / execute

You can do both: If you IP at 70+ rage, and immediately hit a rage generator afterwards (remember IP is off GCD) you will almost always have more than enough rage to hit a revenge or an execute which are - in most cases - used to proc Strategist. If you're lacking rage, its probably because you're not hitting SS (and TC) often enough and are spamming IP or spenders without reason. There is no decision here, even as Colossus you can slap Revenges and still hit IP at 70 rage reliably. Free revenge procs, frothing berserker and outburst help the hero spec a lot for this.

[toxic pewter]

omg wall of text

[sharp gale]

[toxic pewter]

lol jk

[ionic fern]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pudgypenguins-tldr-didnt-read-not-reading-uZjtSy1BYPNcXj5MTA

[lusty grotto]

[solid sun]

This is interesting

[sharp gale]

TLDR : track IP

[lusty grotto]

blame guilford he dared me

[dusky canopy]

What in the Wizard is going on with this message

[lusty grotto]

and i aint no bitch

🐀

[sharp gale]

vibe IP guiding

[coarse bay]

Very thorough guide

I have learned

[ebon geyser]

I need to talk to the skyhold manager.

I got called Fat

[coarse bay]

This tells me to do r1 keys so that i can track IP

[lusty grotto]

true

[solid sun]

I’m reading and I don’t see it mentioned anywhere in this new guide that ignore pain is the highest source of damage reduction as prot

[sharp gale]

W wep btw, L chestpiece

[ebon geyser]

I have to admit is 100% true im tracking is and all I do is see if im at 70%

[ebon geyser]

Re roll out of gnome

[lusty grotto]

trinket brothers

[tribal wharf]

that magisters terrace from hell i did last night, well, first of all it was listed as "plate" and we had 3 plate users not 5, and then, it was on a heroic till first boss we didnt figure it out

[ebon geyser]

Are the 2 jelly fishes tauntable in that jelly fish boss

[tribal wharf]

warrior left after second boss due to power not working, nobody dispelled the robot snare on me even after i told them about it

[lusty grotto]

no

just put the boss under the non shielded one

and follow it

[tribal wharf]

we had like a paladin and a shaman in the group, both i know can remove magic, i want to say dragon also

[ebon geyser]

What i thought.... I was calling the R word because I couldn't keep aggro on them and I said they are not tauntable

[tribal wharf]

and i said it can be removed, and it wasnt

[lusty grotto]

well i mean whether you can taunt them or not matters not, they just move around

[tribal wharf]

but ther was som curse shit, im not sure, its something on trash before octopus boss and they remove that instantly on me

my health bar changes, thats all i really know

[ebon geyser]

Is it the voidwalker healing absorb debuff

[lusty grotto]

either way the shields shouldn't last, if they do then people arent doing the mechanic

[tribal wharf]

could be, also, wtf with that consum voide

how do you stop that

[lusty grotto]

also pretty sure wrecking does padding work in that fight 🙂

[tribal wharf]

or is it just simply dps check, that monster could be a nightmare on fort weeks with affixes

[lusty grotto]

oh its shielded? welp free pad damage! here comes wrecking throw!

[tribal wharf]

i wonder if i can pull him out of it, or if its we need to kill the adds or WHAT i dont get that trash pull

[ebon geyser]

Also why people dont interrupt the fear from the hobo voidwalkers

[bleak breach]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-excellent-sly-gif-15090441131025470920

[dusky canopy]

People don’t kick because we can’t highlight the important kicks anymore

[tribal wharf]

do i want to wrecking on CD during avatar demo

[dusky canopy]

Gg blizzard you made your game better

[bleak breach]

All kicks are important

[lusty grotto]

what is yogi talking about

first boss?

[bleak breach]

The ui does highlight what you can kick too, as does player still

[tribal wharf]

2nd boss mt octo

the void boys

[lusty grotto]

oh

[tribal wharf]

who heal

[lusty grotto]

thats what im talking about

you remove the absorbs by going into your assigne jellyfish

[bleak breach]

^

[ebon geyser]

On nalorak someone said that interrupt is my job not theirs...

[sharp gale]

It’s such a bad trinket to use

[lusty grotto]

it also goes on the tank

[lusty grotto]

its growing on me

but so hard to see orbs sometimes

the str stacks are fat though

[dusky canopy]

Can heal through a random bolt, might not be able to heal through a fear if the tank has no way of getting out of it

[lusty grotto]

and 60s each, and extends

[dusky canopy]

Thus making some kicks more important than others

[ebon geyser]

So 90% of the population.

[coarse bay]

True, but there’s usually a higher priority cast. In that dungeon the terror wave cast is deadly and prio, any aoe cast is usually high prio too

[sharp gale]

It is powerful but unusable for me, ill vendor sell when I grab another trinket

[bleak breach]

I do agree but also there’s 2-3 enemies total to kick in that pack

The void walker and the fear guy

[coarse bay]

When you pull the entire room

There’s like 5

🙂

[bleak breach]

Plus berserker shout exists, which I imagine we will use in m+ as fail safe

[lusty grotto]

just disrupt smh my head

[bleak breach]

^

[lusty grotto]

lmaoooo

[tribal wharf]

the fear guy isnt really all that bad but if you are monk, or berseker is on CD it's "well, guess i'll die now"

[dusky canopy]

The hidden text only applies to sense btw

[lusty grotto]

does yogi not know

[ebon geyser]

Yeah the fear is what has killed me on that pack

[lusty grotto]

stuns are good to interrupt now

kick one, stun one, kick one, stun one

[bleak breach]

But also no need to room pull them if it’s causing issues lol

5 of them will always be an issue

[lusty grotto]

learn to be a brew and pin em to a wall with RoP

like a good monk

and then cry if they fall off the world

[shut summit]

love the DR change so much tbh

super noticeable

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

Ccs mattering again!?

Yeah that’s great

[sharp gale]

And wreck throw silence

[dusky canopy]

Well they always mattered but now they’re impactful instead of chaining 8 of them to kill a pack lol

[ebon geyser]

So Nim, how do you know you are at 70% rage do you have a rage tracker

[coarse bay]

True, never said they were issues just that there were higher prio casts

[ebon geyser]

Like it HAS to be at 70?

[mighty valley]

70 is an extreme ballpark number

[coarse bay]

Vibes

[lusty grotto]

i guess the better question is, why dont you have a rage tracker

[mighty valley]

but yeah you should have your rage bar on your screen, right

[bleak breach]

I just macro IP to and SS to SB lol

[dusky canopy]

70+ feelycraft

[bleak breach]

Never out of rage anyway

[dusky canopy]

[tribal wharf]

i dont like the double jump talent on brew, where you get an extra boost from it after roll, much prefer the one that the roll turns into a warrior charge

[coarse bay]

[tribal wharf]

that shit just feels so right

[lusty grotto]

youre crazy

[dusky canopy]

Nim he’s talking about brew again

[coarse bay]

Surely the ip macro is bait

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

[lusty grotto]

lighter than air negates knockbacks

tf youre gonna pick something else

[lusty grotto]

but yes off to peak with you

[bleak breach]

Nope, done it for years and works a treat

[lusty grotto]

sokraxx is baiting

[tribal wharf]

wouldnt the roll charge do the same?

[lusty grotto]

there's no way

[bleak breach]

Promise you I’m not lol

[tribal wharf]

since it puts you in front of target?

[coarse bay]

Man out here talking strong but macroing ip

I dont believe

[dusky canopy]

Sokraxx is the Prot warrior pug healers can’t stand

[ebon geyser]

Show us

[lusty grotto]

sokraxx youre not new here, i dont believe you

[dusky canopy]

Guys perma hp bar moving

[bleak breach]

Hang on might’ve worded it the wrong way

[lusty grotto]

you cant be doing this shit

oh thank god

[bleak breach]

I have SS macro to IP and SB to snipe casts

Not IP to SS

[lusty grotto]

WHEW

saved

[dusky canopy]

Ah yes

[coarse bay]

Way diff lmao

[bleak breach]

lol

[dusky canopy]

W brain

[lusty grotto]

my blood pressure is good now

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

[coarse bay]

Was finna say

[ebon geyser]

What is snipe

[bleak breach]

Tasmanian, cut me some slack plz

[sharp gale]

Old blood pressure

[dusky canopy]

Old*

[lusty grotto]

that kinda felt like going to pee after a 3 hour movie ngl

[ebon geyser]

Also why macro to SS?

[bleak breach]

More casts

Every time you use active mitigation if you have an SS up or get a proc at the time it uses it as they’re not on GCD

[coarse bay]

Ss to IP*

[ebon geyser]

Im lost. Might be because im new at war but won't both use rage

[lusty grotto]

dont use it then

i would say its not really good for starting players

[bleak breach]

It’s not Necessary Carlwyn but it is a nice bonus

[lusty grotto]

even though theyve been in disc for years

[sharp gale]

I don’t use it

[bleak breach]

It’s simply a macro that is /cast ignore pain
Then /cast shield slam

Same for SB

[mighty valley]

it's purely for the occasions when your finger is en route to pressing TC or Revenge while also mashing IP and you get a random SS reset

[dusky canopy]

[mighty valley]

you gotta use it with a little finesse if you don't want to accidentally prio SS over your cooldowns

[dusky canopy]

mashing ip bind
“Only above 70 rage”

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/unicorn-head-desk-headbang-mask-gif-17328721

[lusty grotto]

[coarse bay]

Me playing pwar

[warm plinth]

Hello yes, hi, what is it

[lusty grotto]

just needed a reminder earlier today

i hope youre having a good day

[bleak breach]

The second I think I’m gonna die, I start pressing it like I have 1000 rage lol

[coarse bay]

[lusty grotto]

[sharp gale]

[warm plinth]

I've been allowing a spreadsheet to bully me all afternoon but I think I'm finally turning the tide

Otherwise it's been an alright day

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto
#showtooltip shield block
/cast ignore pain

[lusty grotto]

calm down satan

[lament osprey]

Bully the spreadsheet never let the spreadsheet bully you

[dusky canopy]

Lmfao

[solid sun]

Is Ppal blasting

[dusky canopy]

Yes

[lament osprey]

Every one minute

[dusky canopy]

Pull 40 mobs send cooldowns do 300k

Wait repeat

[lament osprey]

Every one minute they blast

[sharp gale]

Bear does 100k with 1 mob

[bleak breach]

Feels sad

[lament osprey]

Bear consist

[dusky canopy]

Too one mob*

[solid sun]

Why we gotta be left out like this

[lament osprey]

Brew OP pre usual

[dusky canopy]

[bleak breach]

I feel like I’m throwing paper aeroplanes at them

[lament osprey]

Nice know you all, hope yall turn colors

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/never-gonna-happen-breaking-bad

[coarse bay]

Thats max season sims tho

Not rn

[sharp gale]

Yes

[lament osprey]

Nimchip retiring this tier, gg

[coarse bay]

What usual lmao

[lament osprey]

See. You next time

[coarse bay]

Monk and OP arent usually in the same sentence outside of raid

[sharp gale]

Yeah monk has the stagger debuff when it comes to m+

[solid sun]

Well that’s true but

You can’t spell Monk without On

It isn’t moffk

So

There ya go

[sharp gale]

Can’t spell rhino without no

[solid sun]

Yeah but there’s also a hi

So it’s different

[coarse bay]

Cant spell daddy without rhino

[solid sun]

I can’t argue with that

[coarse bay]

Was that manifesto pinned

[median torrent]

hi guys, first time prot war. Am I right in thinking there's no reason to spend rage on ignore pain if the shield isn't breaking? Does having 100% IP do more than having 25% IP if the damage is less than 25% of IP?

idk if that question makes sense

[dusky canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933732132889706566/1447682831974137856/melvin.gif

@lusty grotto

[tribal wharf]

where is this stemming from

[coarse bay]

Lets talk Ignore Pain (IP)

What is IP?

IP is a partial absorb which helps "smooth out" damage, after our other mitigation tools. This ability is naturally up on us as with proper rage use, so its not something you should heavily focus on. IP is secondary to Shield Block (SB), which is our strongest active mitigation by a huge margin.

Why is it important?

Since our biggest maintainable mitigation is covered by SB, we use IP as a rage dump. It enables us to consume rage in between GCDs (its off the global cd or off-gcd/ogcd) and provides the most time efficient rage consumption to help us get faster Anger Management (AM) cooldown reduction (CDR) for both Wall and Avatar, and to get fatter and more rage generating Shield Slams (SS) via Violent Outburst.

What is the correct way of using it?

We use it at 70+ rage. That is, if you have 70 or more rage you press it. There is no other condition. You press it regardless of IP amount or status, since the rage consumption is far more important. You never press it below 70 rage, even to apply it on the start of a pull. The only exception applies to players that are way way way on top of the curve, that is: || if you're in extremely high scaling content, Rank 1 Keys, or Race to World First, and understand how managing rage works, are comfortable with resource management, you might benefit from using it to cover for edge cases.||

Should I focus on optimizing it?

No. The only thing you have to focus on is your rage bar, not the status of IP. Using it at 70+ rage ensures you have enough rage for both SB and other spenders if you're unlucky with Tactician procs for SS. The exception above applies.

Should I track it? Do I need to see it on my UI?

In the vast majority of cases, tracking it is not recommended or needed. Outside of that, tracking IP can instead make you play worse as you focus more heavily into it or overwhelm you. As Colossus you could track if its up, but its value should not matter. The spoiler "top of the world curve warriors" section applies here as well.

But I'm dying! But my HPS! But my healer says!

An IP will not save you. Its not a heal, its a partial absorb. If you're dying as a Prot Warrior, chances are that you're simply not using the rest of your defensive kit correctly. Prot Warrior HPS also means nothing, we're not BDKs or any other self sustain reliant tank. You're here to mitigate in a preventative manner, self sustain is very secondary.

But i need rage for revenge / execute

You can do both: If you IP at 70+ rage, and immediately hit a rage generator afterwards (remember IP is off GCD) you will almost always have more than enough rage to hit a revenge or an execute which are - in most cases - used to proc Tactician. If you're lacking rage its probably because you're not hitting SS (and TC) often enough and are spamming IP or spenders without reason. There is no decision here, even as Colossus you can slap Revenges and still hit IP at 70 rage reliably. Free revenge procs and outburst help the hero spec a lot for this.

I did the thing

I plagiarized

[coarse bay]

Tldr, we dont actively think about ip, it’s primarily used as a way to dump excess rage

For it to be something you actively have to think about for a defensive situation, you’d have to be doing the most difficult content in the world, probably

[solid sun]

Ignore the pain don’t think about it

[bleak breach]

Not much else to burn rage on so just mash the button

Execute sucks

[coarse bay]

Mashing button no good

[bleak breach]

Revenge doesn’t burn enough rage to really dump it

[glad magnet]

The font looks a bit unreadable but does it mention how I should track?

[glad magnet]

Finally a use for AI. I need a summary.

[lusty grotto]

@coarse bay

[woeful pasture]

quick question - is there a case for prot if focusing on defense to not take the apex talents. Our apex feels focused on damage and there are a lot of useful nodes we could take in the tree

[lusty grotto]

or just forward it

[mighty valley]

the last three points give no defensive value, it's true

[lofty warren]

I tried to copy paste the giant ip text but it said text too long wtf

[mighty valley]

i wouldn't think too hard about it til season starts and tuning has happened though, maybe they'll redesign it

[lusty grotto]

the apex does have a DR associated to it

its minimal, but its there

[glad magnet]

Good bot.

TL;DR:
Ignore Pain is a rage dump used at 70+ rage. Don’t track or optimize it. Shield Block is priority. Use IP to spend rage for cooldown reduction. If you’re dying, you’re misusing other defensives.

[lusty grotto]

[mighty valley]

even then, all the DR is in the first point

[lusty grotto]

yes

[coarse bay]

Oop true

[lusty grotto]

i wouldnt say there's many options

other stuff is just... not worth

[glad magnet]

Not a single person in the warrior discord is capable of holding their attention span long enough or literate enough to read all that. Don’t bedtime me.

[lusty grotto]

damage is threat

and threat is damage

welcome to retail

[lofty warren]

Is this a dot that goes on enemy or is it a buff you get?

[mighty valley]

debuff on enemies hit

[lusty grotto]

pepega you dont even play prot

[woeful pasture]

enduring alacrity, tough as nails, and some magic dr

[lofty warren]

Can it stack?

[woeful pasture]

there is some useful stuff

[lusty grotto]

we pick tough as nails

which builds are you looking at

magic dr? fight through the flames? not worth

spellbreaker/hunker down ABSOLUTELY not worth

[woeful pasture]

im running violent outburst atm

[mighty valley]

well yeah that's standard

[lusty grotto]

which builds are you looking at?

i need a reference point here

[lofty warren]

If enemy has apex talent debuff and then I give it to him again, does he now have 2x (for 10% dr) or does it extend the duration of 5% or does it delete existing debuff and add new one?

[lusty grotto]

because we do pick TaN

[mighty valley]

almost certain it just extends duration

[lusty grotto]

and like harrow said outburst is standard, and has been since that particular SL tier

if youre lurking, make sure you look at the Icy Veins builds or the builds in #protection-faq

the wowhead builds are... placeholders at best

not really reliable

[lofty warren]

Well at least it doesnt pandemic

[mighty valley]

i guess i'd do this if the three apex points are bad. some of it's just a sim angle, like if bloodborne sims better for colossus

also both rage talents always seems like overkill but w/e

[daring marlin]

man

I can't wait for M+

I take like

zero damage in M0 on prot pally

[lusty grotto]

i wouldnt

the apex is sims higher

even if it needs buffs

[jagged pier]

id just take this

if u want bsv just drop apex

or BS

[mighty valley]

yeah that's what i run now

except bloodsurge swapped for dev focus in colossus st

[lusty grotto]

focus is just not that good for thane aoe

yeah thats fine

and bloodborne does sim higher for both hero trees btw

not just colossus

[jagged pier]

like yer im playing thane cause col without ITF is aids

[mighty valley]

tldr: there's no defensive benefit in those three points, but as always the best answer to "what's a good defensive build" is "play better"

[lofty warren]

bUtT I sAW a sTReaMeR play without shield specialization this class discord wrong and groupthink

[jagged pier]

they are taking is again now

mostly

for m+ at least

[lofty warren]

Is this really target uncapped at max damage?

[jagged pier]

no TC is reduced past 5 targets

[tribal wharf]

so, what of what im tracking here is redundant

like should i remove the bar for avatar and demo, or,

[lofty warren]

Does that mean the 5% dr is capped at 5?

[tribal wharf]

that and really overwhelming rage still? last stand and indom to BSV and something else i guess i get it?

i know indom had some sort of change and last stand just kinda bad

[mighty valley]

i literally only track SB there, i don't really care how long any of my CDs last

[lofty warren]

Shield wall too

[tribal wharf]

i was under the assumption that last stand talent was bolster, sadly no

[mighty valley]

bolster dead

[jagged pier]

i think the bigger question is why track them over your char?

[sharp gale]

The only buffs I track : bsv, sb, spell reflect and shield wall

And the outburst proc but i might take it off tbf

[mighty valley]

i still track seeing red, useful to know when big rage spike is coming

i guess i should clarify, i only track sb as a bar

lil icons are fine for everything else i care about

[sharp gale]

I reduced my bars use, I moved to icons even for enrage as fury

I will see when I move to ITF if I want sb as bar back

[jagged pier]

goated way

[sharp gale]

Why everything with stacks is so cringe btw

I hate how the stacks amount is over the duration

[jagged pier]

because to much info for players other wise i guess

[lusty grotto]

[sharp gale]

Im using bettercdm, and it has issue with stacks, it thinks leap has stacks bc that fucking leggo

[jagged pier]

im not against the IP stacks tho

[lofty warren]

Replied with 👍

[jagged pier]

just tell u how full it is

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

This guys a tracker Hollyy!

@lusty grotto

[jagged pier]

no one but sense have ever been in a situation where they need to know the amount

[lusty grotto]

there's a difference brew

[serene wave]

What's craft prio shield or sword? I want to know what crests to save

[lusty grotto]

jakey doesnt really rely on it

[lusty grotto]

[serene wave]

Ah yeah the guide mb

[daring marlin]

DUDE I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN

[lusty grotto]

no, the pins

what guide

[daring marlin]

need some damn rings tho

[lusty grotto]

its pinned

[serene wave]

Fair

[daring marlin]

cringe game

[dusky canopy]

Imagine.. I don’t want to hear it

My rings are 192

[toxic pewter]

I made a weapon and I’ll make a shield on Tuesday

[lofty warren]

When you do the apex thing to do damage and get dr, is it uncapped targets or 5 like thunder clap?

[serene wave]

How many crests would that cost 160?

[lusty grotto]

yes

80 per

so 2 weeks per

since cap

hero/myth crests of course

you can have myth/myth by the 24th

but only myth/hero by the 17th

crest cap is 100

[toxic pewter]

How I get myth crests on 17th

[lusty grotto]

oh true

[toxic pewter]

Delves?

[lusty grotto]

you right

yeah i have no idea

[toxic pewter]

Oh damn lol

Was actually hoping to

[lusty grotto]

i suppose move that time window a week lol

[sharp gale]

You can’t have myth craft the 17th

[lusty grotto]

and last bosses ig

[toxic pewter]

Oh yah true

Last two bosses heroic will drop myth too

[lusty grotto]

yeah likely

[sharp gale]

Last boss dropping myth crests might be the ones coming out in 1 month

[lusty grotto]

thats also true

we dont know how it'll work in dreamrift

he'll probably not drop myth crests

[solid sun]

Nimchip do you anticipate getting aotc next week with your raid group

[lusty grotto]

only hero

i dunno

[solid sun]

Is it normal for CE groups to get aotc week 1

[sharp gale]

No

[lusty grotto]

w2 at least

[sharp gale]

You’d be surprised, but second week yes

[solid sun]

Interesting

[lusty grotto]

and besides we're reforming so i dont know the status of our roster

[lofty warren]

Depends on how tuned last boss is

[jagged pier]

depends on WR

[sharp gale]

My guild had to do a quick extra raid Tuesday to kill dimensius first week, I’m in a wr 500 guild

[lusty grotto]

also im out of state on week 2 🙂

[solid sun]

Sure. I was mostly just curious because I’ve never experienced a CE group

[lusty grotto]

gonna miss the first week of keys

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

i can probably do some on tuesday but i fly out on wednesday

but anyway

aotc isnt really a goal

tier is

aotc is whatever

[sharp gale]

You would be surprised how not good you can be as a group and still get it

[jagged pier]

aotc is the goal for majoirty of players

[lusty grotto]

yeah, im just saying for most CE guilds

using his context

[jagged pier]

yer true

[lusty grotto]

its def nice to get since tokens

[jagged pier]

i mean

apprently we need to pvp next week

for cata charge

ors omthing

[lusty grotto]

interesting

[jagged pier]

yer its the only way to get cata charge

[daring marlin]

I'm enjoying pvp at least

the wq gear is pretty good

[lusty grotto]

yeah i knew it was a good thing i was collecting those

[jagged pier]

but its like the same cata charge as aotc

cause its the 1600 one

[daring marlin]

Interesting

[jagged pier]

but small minmax

[lusty grotto]

ok that makes no sense

thats kinda weird on blizzard's side i guess

[sharp gale]

It worked like that in tww launch no ?

I remember doing arenas bc heroic week

[lofty warren]

How to find out how apex talent worka

[lusty grotto]

i dont remember doing pvp on tww preseason

but maybe i just didnt care

[tribal wharf]

lmao

im trying to hit black ox on my warrior

this is bad

[jagged pier]

its just minmax cause getting tier is more important kinda this expansion

[daring marlin]

4pc asap!!!!!

gimme the charges bro

[lofty warren]

How is it minmax if youre going to get token from m+ rating?

[sharp gale]

You get it 1 week earlier

Since m+ rating start the 24th

[lusty grotto]

you have 2 choices, you get aotc or you push 1600 in rated pvp

[lofty warren]

Got it

[lusty grotto]

or wait a week

[lofty warren]

This one you just do 3x bgs?

[sharp gale]

No

[lusty grotto]

1600 RATING

in competitive (aka rated) pvp

[sharp gale]

It’s the catalyst charge to turn gear into tier sets

You do rated arenas and/or rated BGs

[daring marlin]

Can I just do shuffle to 1600 for it? lol

[blissful pecan]

Aotc isn’t available until all 3 raids open. But really there’s no point to pvp unless you will actually get 4 set before m+

[lusty grotto]

or solo shuffle ig

[dusky canopy]

Solo shuffle to 1600 is probably cake walk

[lofty warren]

Solo shuffle 1600 seems the quickest and easiest

[sharp gale]

Or solo yes, I forgot it existed

[lusty grotto]

i guess youre right

its kinda odd they split HoF

but not AOTC shit

but i guess it makes sense considering

you dont want to give 3 charges