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God help arms
I absolutely destroyed wordle today
did you not play TWW
its the TWW version of heroic week
I did play Tww!
ok then its no different
Fr
I just had faith okay
Let there be chaos
i mean its still heroic week so there's shit to do
And I don’t want my rl to pressure me to arms, we gotta pillow fight this sorry
I guess its a 1 week curve if my guild doesn’t shit themselves (we wont be curve until a month in)
which curve
I’m going to get carried by brew
Do all 3 raids ynlock?
cause theres 2 curves and then another
None.. of the above
no?
Just play casual without stress 
No no I meant difficulty
Okay okay
Nah i hve faith my guild has gained some iq
And that I am not awful now
I got old in the last 8 months
Yeah 30 seems rough for everyone
This is actually a real possibility this tier I’ll have my rat alt after splits chilling that I’ll probably arms gear with weekly heroic runs we can que together skyhold gang
Prehistoric type shit
Skyhold gang rise up
so its probably better to send em at 88.75
yeah i sent all mine at 88.80-ish and was fine
But I have five toons done
We should have a guild tbh
I sent it at 87

Okok, is it still 1 dungeon off 90 ?
@toxic pewter is there like a slayers duelium quartmaster or something
yes actually
where
When I did at half 88, it was 1 random dungeon to finish, but half my char did with dmf buff and the last two were just the last two I guess with more %buff
ahhh sick
Why are our names backwards
im already honored with them so
hell yeah im revered
htakzE
Your phone screen bugged
I got you
Yeah some weird discord bug that happens when you press ip below 70 rage
You only see it when you do that ^
ɥʇɐʞzƎ
Now you need to hold it upside down, nothing you can do sorry
guys look at this freakin nerd i found
🤣

is single button really that bad for protection? it looks like it cycles thru the correct rotation for the most part? for normal buttons, not defenives
Vulpera harassment is not against the ToS

thats racist
It also introduces a GCD penalty so, yeah
oh good point
hah
Big issue is that massive GCD hit
What a nerd, was he cute?
Prot is really easy to play so idk why you would even need it
incredibly 

Just spam ignore pain to 100 stacks. Keep shield block up and you’re immortal

I just came back to prot and just noticed theres a lot of buttons thats all haha, used to way less apm, thanks tho for the feedback
That’s not really what it’s about
The sauce is wrong
just be monk and then get mad at healer
Unless you have an actual accessibility need for the one button, you just need to learn to press 4 more buttons the damage penalty from one button is horrible
i havent double checked OAB, and i doubt anyone has, i can check in a few
Oh right forgot a detail
You need thunder fury and bulwark of azzinoth and the biggest bulkiest mog
^^
That is the way
That wasn’t bullying
thats their choice
OAB?
for x or y reason
That was encouraging to play the game better
Half my guild use it for alt dungeons tbf
One Armed Bandit
Fuck is that
it was a really standard question not answered by "dont use it"
I think nim means OBR, One Button Rotation
Ohhh yeah that makes more sense
Whic is still wrong
Why the fck m+ delayed a hole week after raid come out
It’s SBA
Bc it’s better gear than the raid
🤷♂️
Warriors trying to figure out an acronym. We are seriously not escaping the “every warrior main is a lobotomite” allegations
To stagger content in a way to keep from overwhelming the playerbase and gate gear level release. Why blizzard chose to, idk
We’re a hivemind of gorilla here
M+ and heroic raid is the same ilvl so doesnt make sense to delat
Unga bunga
we need the SBA APL remade so we can correctly answer “how bad is it”
Zug Zug
You cant farm raid
Monke stronk togetha
Ape together stronke
Idk about icyveins, but wowhead no longer puts the loss of using it in the guides
So most specs wont sim the loss anymore
100 they will just because of GCD or wildly terrible blizzard rotations
Sucks Big Ass
It reminds me the regular question about « BT or BB during reck » proccing a reading lesson circle
Probably
SINGLE BHTTON ASSISTANT
LMAO I was about to type that
🍿
🤝
I have actually not used that as tank
are there other marcos you experienced guys use? I am using the Shield Slam if up, Ignore pain one. Just seeing ways make it more smooth. ty
Classic rat L
does... does the obr work?
Sissy button assets
I mean people wont sim was the loss % is, it’s no longer information that wowhead asks the guidewriters to provide
do you understand how you use it?
I understand what it does yea
Have two giant cooldown trackers for ignore pain and shield block. Make sure BOTH of them are constantly up and legit ur good for just about anything
can explain? 
Probably don’t want people to be able to shame for it, makes sense really
do you have a main SS bind?
I do yea
you dont use that macro to SS
We don't track IP
True but some players might cause we had the option. IDK, I found it interesting but it’s nearly unusable now because blizz does some WILD things with it. For example fury uses rend as #1 prio so if you have 9 mobs rend and 1 more trails in its casting rend instead of bladestorm
I have a main SS bind and use the ignore pain marco from the guides
ok then you understand how to use it
False prophet

I dont think wowhead really cares tbh, they arent blizzard. I agree with not providing the loss for it though, I think people should feel free to use it or not to use it without feeling pressure from others
done
we do not
I dony use any ip macro bc its better change my mind
thats quite fine too
Grats
You want:
keybind 1
/cast shield slam
Keybind 2
/cast ignore pain
/cast shield slam

When i said you had it wrong earlier, it’s because youre putting emphasis on IP when it doesnt matter
IP is the major source of dmg reduction as prot
Ah okay I mis read his messages then, I read it as he was using the macro as his only keybind
Wrong
-reacted with 
are you trolling
who are you?
If you keep it up entirely forever you basically are immortal
IP isnt something we actively focus on, we naturally have it by using IP as a rage spender to avoid overcapping rage
I’m being dead serious
Blowing rage on ip when you may not have done sb 
holy cow
You're being dead wrong 
I pushed 3k with prot doing that, rarely ever died
3k means jack shit
I’m not there to do dmg I’m there to be immovable
I did a 12 without a shield
There it is
There’s a difference between “can” and “should”
Sb > ip 
then you use SB
Okay now THATS cool
Tank dps doesnt matter kinda guy
Ip Is ThE mAjOr SoUrCe Of DaMaGe ReDuCtIoN aS pRoT
Exactly so who cares about rage management
Ip Is ThE mAjOr SoUrCe Of DaMaGe ReDuCtIoN aS pRoT
Spam ignore pain and boom you’re an unkillable tank
Ip Is ThE mAjOr SoUrCe Of DaMaGe ReDuCtIoN aS pRoT
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of prot warrior but, thats alright! We all learn at our own pace 
Have shield block up -> you solo tank Gallywix
┴oɹd Sɐ NoIʇƆnpǝɹ ǝפɐWɐp ɟO ǝƆɹ∩oS ɹOɾ∀ɯ Ǝɥ┴ sI dI
Ip used to not overlap rage mostly. Having sb up is way more important you goofy goober
Lmao
Oh so we can’t make fun of single button rotation but god forbid someone doesn’t do group thinking and it’s bait
Me in my brain when I spam ignore pain
What if it truly is my unfettered dogshit opinion?
thats correct
what? this? Ip Is ThE mAjOr SoUrCe Of DaMaGe ReDuCtIoN aS pRoT
Truth
You’re not alone with how you play. But wrong is wrong. Objectively it’s worse and bad but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t work fine for 98% of content. WOW is pretty easy.
youre welcome to be a 🤡 ig
Over time this group has gotten pretty good at picking out genuine questions or miss understandings
Here’s my reasoning right
It is a source of dr. He just needs to remove the word "the major"
It’s not even DR
It’s got no cooldown, you can stack it for a bigger absorb. And if you have high haste you can keep it at max stacks basically indefinitely
True it’s healing
🤷♂️
Check logs
At least that’s worked for me at roughly 50% haste
I ate lunch and what in tarnation did I come back to
Does the tooltip not say “reduces damage by 50% until a threshold is met”?
yes im sticking with OBR, dont @ me
That’s pretty huge when paired with shield block
It is an absorb which let 50% of the dmg pass
Single button rotation is something for accessibility, and everyone has their own circumstances.
Claiming something that’s objectively wrong, will be frowned upon. Not hivemind, it’s just worse.
I mean, you can get 3k as a bear without hitting ironfur. You can get far playing a spec in strange ways. Just don't try to pass off bad advice in a discord for people trying to learn
What you mean it isnt dr?
No
#show single-button assistant
/use shield block
/use ignore pain
/use single-button assistant
Here you go. 
GOTTA TRACK THE ABSORB NOW BOIS
Ohh sure compared to like a dr % buff sure diff
Ummm
Does the single button assistant use shield block?
So can we even recommend using it?
Compare it with hps stuff like leech or your healer hps on you
we cannot recommend it, but that wasnt the question that person had
besides, it'd be fun to check how close it is to our actual prio
Because they hate us
The OBR doesn’t use oGCDs
It was fun to use shield wall like a mini avatar
shield wall
If dr = your hp goes down less then it is but in what dr is used for in wow it isnt a dr agree. So he needs to change his hole statement
SBA/OBR only does dps rotation
But if your offensive cd is off gcd it will not case it
Do you play vulpera
Ip Is ThE mAjOr SoUrCe Of DaMaGe ReDuCtIoN aS pRoT?
True but if you’re going deep go deep you can macro oGCD to it
do you play clown?
Just incase you genuinely miss understand, the reason you prefer to press revenge vs ip as a rage dump is because revenge not only deals damage but it also can reset shield slam! It comes in as a “prevent over capping rage” only ability because you cannot do that exclusively with revenge the damage it prevents is looked at as a “bonus effect” your primary mitigation is blocking and effectively using wall, reflect, d stance, and demoshout
Should be illegal to be this annoying
Oh yeah I’m not saying only press IP, just imo it takes more importance over revenge
Everything has a purpose and for good reason.
Mr 3xecute I only using for ip if youre ass is getting blasted
Revenge better then ip in most cases
You realize you are likely wasting ignore pain value by hitting it when it could have absorbed something at its previous value and you could have cast revenge for a shield slam reset which generates more rage?
Thus speeding up the cycle of immortality
Ip to not overcap rage
(Excuse my edits mobile auto correct boss kek)
Of course there will be better circumstances for revenge being better than IP but what is the margin really that big?
I’m assuming he means IP > Revenge if you have no IP up and enough rage to pic either?
It’s at least as large as your shield
Yes anytime you press ip outside of “preventing over capping rage”
You are effectively slowing down the cycle of rage generation thus making you less tanky over longer periods of time
If i super messed up and I am at like 5% then I'll spam ip to try to not die in the next gcd
It doesnt use any CDs, doesnt matter if its gcd or not
It uses wake of ashes
Bc it is on the gcd
If you exclusively pressed IP and unbound revenge it’s like an 8% damage loss and 20% of your time AFK. At the most potentially extreme end.
When you play this spec properly you will always have some active ignore pain it just might not be full
The idea is that pressing IP doesn't lead to anything. Revenge has the ability to reset SS and gives you more rage in the end thus leading to more abilities being pressed. If your IP can still absorb, why hit IP again? The rage is BETTER spent on revenge
OJ gets it
Maybe wake of ashes just isnt listed as a cd, it isnt supposed to use any major cds
Vulpera one of the best races in the game for m+ nose for trouble is even stronger now since they removed the rage gain from avatar
Yeah that, if it’s an 8% loss. Like how will I ever sleep tonight
Wow, I’ve been aiming for 100 uptime on IP.
this is fundamentally wrong
and so is this
but it depends on your rage availability
It’s not about damage
youre not gonna slap it under 70 rage
Some people that’s big. Some it’s small. But fundamentally you have to admit it’s wrong. You can still do it. But you can’t argue it’s good.
My b, I'll take the L and be bette eduated
you will slap revenge instead at that point
Enlighten me
And gcd lock prevention
Yes we know about am and vo
and off gcd
What does that have to do with what I said
Is this not correct?
I always thought IP was something you have up but not spam unless you are drowning in excess rage
the IP value does not matter
Not arguing that at all, yeah it’s good but also. Who cares at the end of the day ykwim? Like will it be a gigantic difference if my prot warrior fully optimizes to do an extra lick of damage
what matters is your current rage
so out of context, your comment might be taken incorrectly
Is this IP again?
We care because we are helping people optimize their play
Ah yeah my b, I can edit it. I also want to make sure I understand as well
We were specifically discussing why ignore pain is only used as a means to prevent overcapping rage
oh i was just replying to brew, no worries
gotcha
No but you can’t really come to the class discord and push that cause most people are here to learn to improve and play better not how to make things easier at a loss.
well yeah under 70 rage you do not send IPs
If you don’t care to play properly that’s fine but this isn’t the place for not caring about playing properly
Correct making my statement fundamentally correct no?

if thats the context
If you drop really low and gonna die next gcd maybe isnt it correct to dump all rage into ip plus other defensives?
I see how a lurker reading that and then leaving would be confused yes
The downside of aol messaging

Better use that rage on IV
Guess the question is, would the IP dump actually save you
Ask away we’re a bunch of Prot warrior nuts happy to help in between our yapping
Anything helps? Its not like ip pandemics
Idk if IP works like that lol. Its a partial absorb only abosrbing 50% of the damage you take, you are still taking damage. So if you are at a point where you will die in a global, idk if IP is going to save you unless the damage event is small
we have high uptime when played correctly regardless
correct, it wont save you
alone that is
and one cast of IP is not very big
You can have multiple ips going at once

Stacks to 100, yeah?
And if you recast at 90-100 it stays at 100 pretty dope
You talked about a situation where you are in danger so it is a one sec thing
When your primary focus is maintaining block followed by resetting shield slam if it isn’t available your ip will just always have some of the bar filled by preventing rage cap during the cycle
I’ve always wondered, what is the cannon explanation for ignore pain
Like do prot warriors have dulled nerves
Shit ton of calluses
Nah, its like in a fight you get hit. You ignore the hit and move forward with your move.
Gameplay wise, its an absorb
block for things that can be blocked, reflect for things that can be reflected and IP/SW everything else away
Oh it’s like adrenaline
It happens but you legit don’t pay attention to it
Yes
That's how I am perceiving it. Literally "ignore the pain"
Canonically you are so mad you shrug off pain
Actually livid
Legit always just imagined like you get so mad you form physical calluses around your body
This is the dungeon build I've been using, they did some fixes for the apex so we can run 4/4 now
Due to physical stress
Sounds unpleasant
Well shit if you were thrown fire, necrotic magic, bullets, magic. And tanking it all with your body you gotta adapt somehow
thats very similar to the raid one
So you drop low and have 10% hp and full rage. During your defensive usage you only do 1x ip or all the ips to make sure you don't die very soon? Sure you might lose out on ur 100 parse but you dont die
That it is, that it is
If you are at 10% hp you already are cooked
Currently DotC is just tuned better than EC, and most of the talents are pretty static
Have they fixed the bugs
Typically bleeds and bolts
Press your health pot, impeding victory, shield wall or shockwave, but you keep doing your rotation normally
You don’t panic
KEEP PANICKING, ITS OVER YOURE GONNA DIE FLAME THE HEALER
Alas brave, brave adventurers, your meddling has reached it's end. Do you hear the clatter of bone and steel coming up the tunnel behind you? That will be your impending demise.
Ahh yes blame the healer
soon
Always establish blame first and foremost
It’s a tried and true method
pit of saron is great lol
Bonus points if you’re in VC with your healer and scream like you’re actually dying begging for heals
True usually I panic and use all the defensives
I’ve been keeping SB and IP at the expense of rage spenders. Is that wrong?
yes
Least on prog content
IP at 70+ rage
use revenge under
and only when SS or TC are on CD
and keep SB up
as thane
Nims faster read his
Of course
SS > TC > Rev or Exe (ONLY AS THANE AND IN SINGLE TARGET)
SS > Rev > TC as Colossus
Nome and jakey VoD is so goated for understanding Prot warrior
we execute instead of ss at sub 20?
no?
No
its a priority
my bad im confusing my specs
what about ST
not even with deep wounds talented
Execute is almost never touched. Not like pwar back in the day
i believe i just mentioned ST twice
I’m using wowhead build is that meta thane for mythic
back in what day, we didnt use it in DF either
Use icy veins irs bettee
execute only made a comeback in TWW
ty guys
the fact they changed sudden death was the biggest kick in the balls
and red right hand
Before tww
df was before tww
no for dps guides you can use wowhead
since Archi is the one that writes them
but i think he does icyveins too
Ok so im not the only one that barely touch it
For pwar iv idk about the dps specs. I think archimode is good and is wowheas
He do both
Is tough as nails worth it? There’s so many good talents at that gate it’s hard to justify
Archimode do both icyveins and wowhead
Yes, for dungeons in particular
I like icy veins for prot warr myself
yep
See here mista guide has execute high up as example
Wtf is shield barrier
shield barrier was IP 1.0
that’s what had me fucked up
and then I saw some video saying our execute makes our ST dmg some of the best
thats probably an outdated video
what is your point here
but I guess seething rage? makes shield slam just hit hard AF
Are you playing midnight or mists
and we barely used execute in DF because it hit for piss
midnight
Lots of things we re e before tww
youre not understanding the flow of the conversation
i dont need to see the prio
its literally what i described
and besides the prio will change as we keep working on the APL
The culprit of execute being bad for 10 years https://youtu.be/6hMqvb8QiUk?is=UUR9Pf8J2kZZ1jbo
Back in the day doesnt specify which day. Just some day in the past (mainly bc there are multiple)
SL nuked execute from orbit.... until TWW
and we didnt even have execute in BFA
or in legion
how come colossus doesnt use execute again? even in single target is that the case
like i get revenge does more damage per global
but like what if i want to save a global
is there anything to be said about that
cause colossus does not have Thorim's might
revenge just hits harder as a result
Thorim's is 25% extra damage to execute
does revenge do more damage per 1 point of rage always for colossus
even with zero stacks of colossal might?
yes
ok then im literally removing execute from my bar now then until its buffed (colossus only)
i mean we did mention it weeks ago
I know I sorta forgot the situation with colossus
the only situation where you press execute is strictly Thane and in ST, period
thane is the hero with the 25% execute dmg node
Thane and AOE = no execute
Colossus and ST = no execute
Colossus and AOE = no execute
Thane and ST = execute okay
Probably small enough to ignore I bet. F execute lame button.
When slayer prot 
Always execute and I have zero bias why
...
Yeah I’ll have to wait till all these APL cooks get out to us plebs
The Machine
by APL cooks you mean wait until the 17th
and hope to god they buff up execute again
as well as the Apex
After playing prot a lil more I question Blizz on the new revenge animation vs the apex talent animation
Do we know if this season there will be a free enchanted hero crests variant?
Like the one that just used for crafts. Typically end boss.
likely yes
It was at the end of the campaigns in tww if I remember
With the kill the last boss quest
phalanx is so underwhelming
We need to lock the channel so it gets fixed

no we dont cause we're not little pink bitches

But same diff ig
mmm. Mounts

ret paladin special?
I mean i put my paladin in the last spot of my characters it was miserable and leveling and playing war has been 
also has anyone noticed that the final apex point for prot was just the passive buff shield block gave when it was active
took it away then gave it back when youre 90
which IN OF ITSELF was orginally a pvp talent
It is the same with fury apex, they reduced reck duration and the apex increases reck duration
just need 20 more mounts and i can quit
yeah but they did kinda balance it out with a the gimmick of rampage being only 50 rage
(in reck)
arms has heroic strike, fun call back and passive armor pen back
prot, just give em some damage and call it a day
It doesn’t elude the fact one of the node just put reck duration at what it was in tww
Arms and fury apex have the exact same structure it is kinda meh
just creative wise its pretty lack luster
prot couldve gotten something a bit cooler
but they did kinda use all the cool stuff on colossus and thane
In my eyes they have the same apex talent but fury second node is better bc slight gameplay change
Chief is pink lazers
IF I might not raid mythic am I still in need to craft a weapon
lol just got this error O_O
OOF
do i trust warband banks
do they still randomly lose entire banks and gold and stuff
You can trust me
come to NA ill hook it up 
I require gold pieces
I will never afford enchantments in this economy
lol
I checked my 2H craft mats it’s not very expensive
I only have 4 gold pieces
That’s not true
I have received some gold from questing
@lusty grotto which ww guide does your brother use
Actually maybe babs does all three of them
whatever peak has
Hey gang quick question, I’m finding that I’m not able to keep up shield block super well without using heavy repercussions over into the fray. Is this a “beginning of the season not enough haste” issue or am I just being bad?
its just the start of the exp
Nimchip too fast
Dope ty ty ^^
let me link the haste rating you need to swap
Was just typing that out in question form
@toxic belfry
haste is always low at the start of an expansion due to levels
more levels means you need more rating for same value
Oh sick that’s perfect tysm
i have finally learned how to exit the dumb haranir tree when you port in
is it possible to learn this power?
just go right after you port in
face center, go right
zul aman is probably my favorite one
Ive felt the same way actually and others i spoke to in general chat have often agreed
yah zul aman my fav also
I actually like all the midnight zones
that being said, i do miss the wow factor of hallowfall
sounds like you're a crusader in your heart
fake ass warrior....
smh...
negative ghost rider
There was a wow factor?
I just never went there so boring
Pink name. Plays paladin. White knights when you call ret punks. Loves the crusader zone.
to each their own
hard to beat hallowfall, it looks amazing
that being said i didnt white knight paladins, i just said they werent punks
smh my head
they're still whiny little bitches 
My favorite so far is probably ZA
I haven’t done much of haranir yet. ||I just finished the dream trial where they force you to be a druid||
I got momentarily lost after ||waking up from the dream trial|| and took that as a sign I was too tired to continue questing but maybe that’s just the status quo
If|| I ever had any second thoughts|| about ||not questing||, this|| horror of a scenario||, has|| removed any fragment of doubt||
This is a|| fate worse than death|| ||I dont want to be one of the dreamgroovers
||
LOL
I def had you in mind when I typed that out
“Cat will be so happy they missed this”
Slippery slope, straight into the dreamgroove with you
Nim. Should I make a weapon if im not gonna even set foot in mythic raid
Answer the question, Nim. What side are you taking?
it doesnt matter really, youll have 4 sparks by the 17th
so you can probably make both
what first tho
1 with myth crests and 1 with hero crests
i dont agree with the valkyrs
Good rat
I made a sword and I’m just gonna spend crests I’m too old to save shit for weeks
wym
I mean, spend away, all the crests you got atm are pointless ones
Like with sparks and crests I usually follow guides to save and stuff
Yah i dunno just to ensure im not in a bad position later or whatever
They got guides that just doesnt say "spend the useless crests however you feel like"?
hell

we'll have FIVE sparks on the 17th
Says not to spend anything or craft anything
Yeah damn lol five is wild
That’s before m+ even
The crests you got right now, will be dead useless when the season starts
Yah true
no sorry its 4 sparks
5 by myth opening though
the 24th
so anyway thats 2 crafts, 1 with myth crests since 100 cap
or one 2hander
@dusky canopy you did your m0s right?
Yessir thank you for checking, goodluck! Get all the loots

what comes out tomorrow?normal and mythic +
Norm/heroic I think?
Mythic+ isn't until the 24th
Raid isnt for another week
nothing comes out tomorrow
You can check ingame calendar for release dates
ohh then yeah ill make a sword and shield
is this shield or the normal one
The guide should have a section for crafts, i wouldnt imagine we opt for that embellishment
yeah nvm i just saw spell and though it was int
unless perma embelishments are stand outs, we usually opt out of crafting those
yeah no that was my bad i just read spell and though healing
I would prob craft that shield, just for fun funsies. Maybe the effect will be better than ppl and sims say.
Either way, crafted shield is temporary till I get my myth track one - why not roll the dice
@lusty grotto what you mean 4 spark by the 17? are we gettig one a week?
yes
ohh dang , awesome ty
so weapons are gonna go a long way then unless you mythic raid
Just so u know, craft sparks doubled in costs
They just got rid of the "half spark" system
By the laws that bind us, we must say crafting weapon above shield is the play. For so Rat has spoken
I would just craft the Shield first, to make the tanking part of tanking just easier 
Mwahi has spoken
My personal preference will be shield first, but mwahi is big trust
I am wondering if this season will be the one where I dont craft a 2hander, only to get one in the vault two weeks in a row 
Gamba or not to gamb, guess I will decide after tuning is done
I say keep holding crafts just incase u vault what u craft
And at end of season fill the holes
(For legal purposes, this is a joke)
and i havent checked the item pool for both on keys
Trust, if you craft it, it will drop - costing you 20 crests 
Or no? Hms, napkin time cause lazy.
Mythic track:
2/6, +20 per level, 80
Crafted, 60 for 5/6, +20 80
So it is at least not a crest loss, just a spark gone
My warrior will probably be fully pugged so im banking on first bosses being early puggable
No idea, as the raid are smaller and all that
I havent given the raid any thought
Probably will be? Especially if you in a PuG (alt raider) zone
windrunner spire 3d boss
1h
crit vers
magisters
1h
haste mast
academy
1h
haste vers
Pit
??
seat
1h
crit haste
skyreach
1h
crit vers
this are the weapons at the moment on the dungeons the last 3 is what the journal has not what will or is dropping
pit of saron weapon for tank
i didnt added since it has dodge
he also drops a really nice 2h axe everyone fights over
they'll change it to secondaries
some generic crit mastery thing
sometimes they add and/or remove loot
so dont take the old drops as the ones we'll get
they can always change it to one of those demonslayer affix swords
or a proc effect
if there is some need to do so
i never go past hero track so 
6/6 hero, is the same as 2/6 mythic
So you are pretty high up there either way
last tier work made raid impossible so i had to buy some runs
Can’t wait to hear the stories of pugs trying the 7th boss
Thought the new raid had less than that
I mean the 3rd raid first boss
Got ya
Since you can free enter no lockout until you kill it
is 6/6 veteren the same as 2/6 champion or na
Probably
Yarp, so remember to get a champion piece, before you upgrade your veteran (to save vet crests), then upgrade veteran to 6/6 to save champion crests - repeat this for every tier 
Just use this logic for HC+Mythic track tho, only time it is worth

if you have rep you can get an easy 240 helmet for doing the stone quest in eversong
fastest delve to spam for levelling?
don’t you wanna do them all for the quests
idk about efficiency, but I could run the southern one in zul'aman in around 4,5 min per run (including loading in/out)
ymmv depending on what version it is ofc, I freed some prisoners and avoided the traps, then run around the corner in the boss room to bunch everything up
Is there a meaningful way to cut down on prot warr keybind amounts and still maintain most of your power?
no
make sure rend, hamstring, and whirlwind are off your bars
idk about that hamstring is useful
but if the mechanics dont warrant usage of it, sure
any recommendation on easy delve to grind at 7 or 8?
it sits in my "break in case of emergency" corner, doesnt take a meaningful bind
we have peircing how and thunderclap as it is for slows
sucks that howl is a trade off of fear
and other players with better spells than hamstring
thats right! a cooldown does in fact have a cooldown
we're learning so many things today
I mean, to be fair if you take Crackling Thunder tclap is a 40% slow in itself
so hamstring is superior for fixates etc
yeah sure
i mean its whatever
i do keep it bound though
its still a utility pick so it doesnt really matter for his question
since it was about power
I'm a big fan of hamstring
i prefer my ham to be solid not stringy
I'm very uncomfortable with the backwards and upside-down names.
that was a today meme
cuz its meant for long duration, max slow needed, single target, which is like, never in a keystone
Im sorry you feel that way
They'll be reverted with weekly reset its ok
and in a raid, well, you have 20 ppl
Yeah until then, you have to turn your phone or put it in front of mirror
like maybe you are going to use it on the chase ghosts in caverns 2
that are chasing some other player
that you make them collide anyways
hard to say where you will use in key
I appreciate the brevity, I just wish my action bars were similar
what did they do to repairs? 1 dungeonwent from 20% to 0 and didnt even die
sounds pretty normal to me
maybe not 20%, but you get attacked alot and every attack has chance to reduce 1 point durability
thus, i am black smith with armor smithing, so by end of an expansion, i can repair all slots for no money
but, you get enough gold from quests and pinnacle chests and such to cover it
Do you lose 20% total or is your UI showing you only your lowest piece (which is likely your shield)
We using our sparks this week or nah?
No reason to
Roger roger
beautiful pepega moment to say "i started a dungeon at 20% durability, what's the deal with this game"
i mean im already behind... work keeps calling and i haventdone a myet
idk it felt pretty easy
not my point
oh
what sucked about em i had fun 🤷
yeah I cant deny i would like everything to be more challenging ya

pretty sure these four weirdos I did a full M0 tour with yesterday dicked me
either someone was saved or they weren't looting bosses
never trust A52 people
sorry not sorry apb
lmao
cringey losers on your server buddy

it is said to be so
im prob the coolest non weird guy on a52 tho
to be fair i only ended up on this server cuz irl friends wanted to be on it years ago
prey actually pretty good feature
You guys sending your veteran crests willy nilly this week or waiting?
gonna do it near the end of next week tbh
I'm at 236 without using any and the urge to hit 240 just cause is tempting
Vet gear is gonna get replaced super fast so unless youre trying to giga turbo optimize preseason might as well send em on M0 gear
Plus 6/6 vet gear gives you a free upgrade from 1/6 to 2/6 on that same slot in champ
I bitched and moaned about getting fucked on loot on my priest before doing den with Nim and Brew, then I got 2 pieces from that dungeon 
really needed shoulders as I had 201s, got the shoulder drop
hell yeah
Gear doesn’t matter now anyway
Not a big deal til March 24 for real
This min-max shit is dumb anyway
You ain’t going big, you schmol
It'll be ezpz
Easiest peasiest.
need me my vet chest and gloves
or im gonna absolutely fold in +2 trust
the blue item debuff is real
Tank ego 
Tank do this, do that, why you dead, l2p 
Uninstall the game tank 
Yea then you get literal death threats and ppl telling you, you should unalive yourself..during a freaking dungeon bruh. But hey, tank ego is bad...
imagine this
season didnt even start, no M+ yet. No raids, nothing, just M0.
And grown ass ppl acting like that online..
b-but tank ego bad
its sad but nothing much we can do bout it
well other than just blocking their arse
sweet silence
I had the same issue yesterday - I was trying to replicate M+ pulls based on initial routing data and people bitched that I pull too big. If I took it slower, I got bitched for pulling too little... make up your minds please
I joined a learning group
we did almost every dungeon with good vibes
🙏
only wiped twice cuz nobody bothered to read mechanics

Welcome to usual tank life 
Also lovely if you see your group leak on kicks... so pull less caster. "Pull them also!" Wipe. "Why you dont kick?" 
imagine the dopamine hit when I overpulled a bit in magisters and watched all 4 fear casts get interrupted almost at the same time
imagine the dopamine when ppl know mechanics
😔
hey guys so what tree is pulling ahead on M+?
I see, yeah coming from TWW the spec feels a bit wierd right now!
Hey gang, I think I am being stupid but can you craft with no sparks? Like I see people online say use your vet crests to fill slots. How does one do that? If I go speak with the crafting order lady I have to put a spark. And I see no option enchanted vet crests. Is it even worth it? Do I save sparks for hero gear? I'm not sure how to go about it
Or is it blue gear I can craft with no spark and purple and up need one?
blue gear, idk if u can use vet crests but u can adventure ones
think I saw the option
I'll check the blue items when I get home then
I guess I'll wait to do stuff next reset and decide, might be good to up missed rolls n stuff
Not that it is relevant to be fair once hero week is here
yeah def run the m0s again first
not much else to do next week anyway
next reset I mean
but still what a week
Yeah
still kinda confused why crests per week is capped, like cmon man let there be some chaos lol
boys, i hate to say it but there is a non 0% chance i give up pwar for brew, except for that it gives me duplicate 240s
wdym by that
Is there any good shields in the available dungeons?
The question could be are there any shield with haste
I need to look the season loot table
It is kinda hard to see on the phone, but any shield with haste is a good shield, after being highest ilvl shield
no, there isnt
well let me correct that, there is one haste mastery shield, but its not gonna be on a dungeon that shows up during the season (its in Den)
from what i can recall
just what i said i mean, monk was pretty enjoyable so far
black ox statue and legsweep.
Why do you like the statue
black ox statue is amazing, i just drop it where i want the aggro to happen and it happens
good for prepull and gathering
Doesn’t it die super fast
I haven’t messed with it at all because I always pull with ks and sck
does what i want it to do
only shit part with monk is sometimes its "well, guess ill die now."
and efen then its cuz your not paying attention and stand in a circle or taking a bleed
I usually attribute that sort of thing to me misplaying
touch of death is better execute
"sheep" like effect
oh no there is some wizard man free casting shadowbolts endlessly for days just outside of the group im fighting
what can i do!
YOGI FOTM REROLLER OH MY GOD
you may not like it but this is a REAL M AN
late af but you can use vet crests to craft up to 246 gear
i am morshu re-roller
Adventurer scales to 233
could be any character
real ones been brewing
Bro looks like he came out of a Village People music video
Come back when you're a little mmmmm richer
Can't give credit - gotta see the big picture
You want it?
Give me your rubies

who from this discord is here?
im not realyl going to ask any brew questions here anyways besides dduhhhhhh does monk use agility?
I am in peak
Khailby is, too
this is also a large reason im monk for now,
all my other characters were lvl 80 with u nder 100 ilvl (LFD)
Hi guys. So last night tank my first murder row and damn those first pack hit like a truck. The rest of the dungeon was very easy but the bleeds come on blizzard. Any tip besides race change to dwarf (horde fan)?
🤣 🤣 🤣
Isn’t there also a damage taken increase debuff
just make sure you understand what applies them etc
just ip harder duh
dont get hit by the dumb glaive or w/e its called
I think its the suriken or what ever but i tought i was dodging it
it has a bigger hitbox than it seems
someone isn't doing a good job ignoring the pain!!!
its not just that one
there's another bleed and yes, what Rhino said
all of them are dwarfable
In my defence i was still nor very high lvl but it was a guild run
I'm just yankin' your chain
either way youre not expected to pull all mobs that apply bleeds at the same time, so just plan ahead
I know dont worry ✌🏻✌🏻
and stagger the pulls

