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glad magnet
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Lil gup mod when??

drowsy comet
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17th

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24th M+

sand condor
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Do they need an extra week to tune Arms or smth

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24th??????

dusky canopy
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God help arms

solid sun
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I absolutely destroyed wordle today

lusty grotto
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did you not play TWW

dusky canopy
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I do not want to be fury prison again

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Fff

lusty grotto
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its the TWW version of heroic week

sand condor
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I did play Tww!

lusty grotto
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ok then its no different

drowsy comet
sand condor
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I just had faith okay

drowsy comet
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Let there be chaos

lusty grotto
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i mean its still heroic week so there's shit to do

sharp gale
sand condor
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I guess its a 1 week curve if my guild doesn’t shit themselves (we wont be curve until a month in)

dusky canopy
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Heroic week is a lot to do

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Multiple raids

lusty grotto
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which curve

solid sun
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I’m going to get carried by brew

dusky canopy
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Delves

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More m0

sand condor
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Do all 3 raids ynlock?

lusty grotto
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cause theres 2 curves and then another

sand condor
lusty grotto
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no?

drowsy comet
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Just play casual without stress okayge

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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2 raids first

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3rd raid like 3 weeks after

sand condor
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Okay okay

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Nah i hve faith my guild has gained some iq

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And that I am not awful now

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I got old in the last 8 months

sharp gale
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Yeah 30 seems rough for everyone

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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btw happy

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i was 3/4th out

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by sending the quests at 88.5

drowsy comet
solid sun
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Skyhold gang rise up

lusty grotto
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so its probably better to send em at 88.75

undone beacon
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yeah i sent all mine at 88.80-ish and was fine

lament osprey
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But I have five toons done

solid sun
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We should have a guild tbh

lament osprey
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I sent it at 87

drowsy comet
sharp gale
lusty grotto
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its like 20% left

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so i should do that in 3 quests

undone beacon
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@toxic pewter is there like a slayers duelium quartmaster or something

toxic pewter
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yes actually

undone beacon
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where

toxic pewter
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at the main sanctuary area

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hes like a blue elemental guy

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right near fp sorta

sharp gale
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When I did at half 88, it was 1 random dungeon to finish, but half my char did with dmf buff and the last two were just the last two I guess with more %buff

undone beacon
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ahhh sick

glad magnet
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Why are our names backwards

undone beacon
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im already honored with them so

glad magnet
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I missed lore

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And I also hate this

toxic pewter
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hell yeah im revered

mystic cave
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Backward check

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o_o

toxic pewter
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he sells a banner u can put on corpses

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which is cool

dusky canopy
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htakzE

sharp gale
dusky canopy
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I got you

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Yeah some weird discord bug that happens when you press ip below 70 rage

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You only see it when you do that ^

toxic pewter
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pash got me good in game

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LOL

glad magnet
sharp gale
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Now you need to hold it upside down, nothing you can do sorry

undone beacon
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guys look at this freakin nerd i found

dusky canopy
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🤣

toxic pewter
pliant palm
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is single button really that bad for protection? it looks like it cycles thru the correct rotation for the most part? for normal buttons, not defenives

open wedge
toxic pewter
tribal wharf
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thats racist

undone beacon
pliant palm
tribal wharf
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hah

glad magnet
coarse bay
open wedge
undone beacon
coarse bay
open wedge
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Just spam ignore pain to 100 stacks. Keep shield block up and you’re immortal

toxic pewter
pliant palm
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I just came back to prot and just noticed theres a lot of buttons thats all haha, used to way less apm, thanks tho for the feedback

coarse bay
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The sauce is wrong

tribal wharf
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just be monk and then get mad at healer

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
open wedge
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Oh right forgot a detail

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You need thunder fury and bulwark of azzinoth and the biggest bulkiest mog

chrome lance
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^^

lusty grotto
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lets not

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bully people

chrome lance
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That is the way

lusty grotto
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that are using OAB

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lets just not

dusky canopy
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That wasn’t bullying

lusty grotto
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thats their choice

open wedge
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OAB?

lusty grotto
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for x or y reason

dusky canopy
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That was encouraging to play the game better

sharp gale
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Half my guild use it for alt dungeons tbf

undone beacon
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One Armed Bandit

open wedge
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Fuck is that

lusty grotto
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it was a really standard question not answered by "dont use it"

undone beacon
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I think nim means OBR, One Button Rotation

open wedge
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Ohhh yeah that makes more sense

glad magnet
lofty warren
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Why the fck m+ delayed a hole week after raid come out

glad magnet
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It’s SBA

sharp gale
lusty grotto
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🤷‍♂️

open wedge
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Warriors trying to figure out an acronym. We are seriously not escaping the “every warrior main is a lobotomite” allegations

coarse bay
dusky canopy
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We’re a hivemind of gorilla here

lofty warren
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M+ and heroic raid is the same ilvl so doesnt make sense to delat

open wedge
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Unga bunga

glad magnet
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we need the SBA APL remade so we can correctly answer “how bad is it”

dusky canopy
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Zug Zug

sharp gale
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Monke stronk togetha

dusky canopy
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Ape together stronke

coarse bay
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So most specs wont sim the loss anymore

lusty grotto
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what the fuck is SBA

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ITS ONE BUTTON ROTATION

glad magnet
dusky canopy
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Sucks Big Ass

undone beacon
sharp gale
dusky canopy
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Probably

glad magnet
open wedge
chrome lance
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🍿

dusky canopy
cerulean tusk
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I have actually not used that as tank

pliant palm
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are there other marcos you experienced guys use? I am using the Shield Slam if up, Ignore pain one. Just seeing ways make it more smooth. ty

glad magnet
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Classic rat L

cerulean tusk
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does... does the obr work?

lofty warren
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Sissy button assets

coarse bay
lusty grotto
pliant palm
lusty grotto
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no

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do you understand how to use it

open wedge
pliant palm
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can explain? monkahmm

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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do you have a main SS bind?

pliant palm
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I do yea

lusty grotto
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you dont use that macro to SS

glad magnet
pliant palm
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I have a main SS bind and use the ignore pain marco from the guides

lusty grotto
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ok then you understand how to use it

open wedge
sharp gale
lusty grotto
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you use it to IP, not to see

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thats basically it

coarse bay
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
lofty warren
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I dony use any ip macro bc its better change my mind

lusty grotto
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thats quite fine too

coarse bay
dusky canopy
coarse bay
lusty grotto
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he knows

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brew

coarse bay
open wedge
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IP is the major source of dmg reduction as prot

dusky canopy
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Ah okay I mis read his messages then, I read it as he was using the macro as his only keybind

glad magnet
dusky canopy
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Fucking block

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Hollyy

lusty grotto
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who are you?

open wedge
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If you keep it up entirely forever you basically are immortal

coarse bay
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IP isnt something we actively focus on, we naturally have it by using IP as a rage spender to avoid overcapping rage

open wedge
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I’m being dead serious

lofty warren
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Blowing rage on ip when you may not have done sb monkahmm

lusty grotto
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holy cow

undone beacon
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You're being dead wrong sadgers

open wedge
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I pushed 3k with prot doing that, rarely ever died

lusty grotto
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3k means jack shit

open wedge
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I’m not there to do dmg I’m there to be immovable

sharp gale
undone beacon
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There it is

coarse bay
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There’s a difference between “can” and “should”

lofty warren
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Sb > ip okayge

lusty grotto
open wedge
undone beacon
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Tank dps doesnt matter kinda guy

dusky canopy
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Ip Is ThE mAjOr SoUrCe Of DaMaGe ReDuCtIoN aS pRoT

open wedge
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Exactly so who cares about rage management

lusty grotto
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Ip Is ThE mAjOr SoUrCe Of DaMaGe ReDuCtIoN aS pRoT

open wedge
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Spam ignore pain and boom you’re an unkillable tank

coarse bay
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Ip Is ThE mAjOr SoUrCe Of DaMaGe ReDuCtIoN aS pRoT

lusty grotto
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guy is hardcore baiting

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he cant be this stupid

undone beacon
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I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of prot warrior but, thats alright! We all learn at our own pace peepo

sharp gale
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Have shield block up -> you solo tank Gallywix

glad magnet
lofty warren
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Ip used to not overlap rage mostly. Having sb up is way more important you goofy goober

open wedge
dusky canopy
open wedge
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What if it truly is my unfettered dogshit opinion?

lusty grotto
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what? this? Ip Is ThE mAjOr SoUrCe Of DaMaGe ReDuCtIoN aS pRoT

open wedge
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Truth

glad magnet
lusty grotto
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youre welcome to be a 🤡 ig

dusky canopy
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Over time this group has gotten pretty good at picking out genuine questions or miss understandings

open wedge
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Here’s my reasoning right

lofty warren
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It is a source of dr. He just needs to remove the word "the major"

sharp gale
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It’s not even DR

open wedge
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It’s got no cooldown, you can stack it for a bigger absorb. And if you have high haste you can keep it at max stacks basically indefinitely

glad magnet
lusty grotto
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🤷‍♂️

glad magnet
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Check logs

open wedge
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At least that’s worked for me at roughly 50% haste

solid sun
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I ate lunch and what in tarnation did I come back to

lusty grotto
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you do you buddy

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at this point though you might wanna do OBR

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🙂

dusky canopy
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Does ip reset Shield slam?

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What generates the most rage?

open wedge
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Does the tooltip not say “reduces damage by 50% until a threshold is met”?

lusty grotto
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yes im sticking with OBR, dont @ me

open wedge
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That’s pretty huge when paired with shield block

lusty grotto
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lol

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okay

sharp gale
coarse bay
undone beacon
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I mean, you can get 3k as a bear without hitting ironfur. You can get far playing a spec in strange ways. Just don't try to pass off bad advice in a discord for people trying to learn

lofty warren
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What you mean it isnt dr?

sharp gale
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No

lusty grotto
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its an absorb pepega

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a partial absorb

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DR is "reduces damage by X %"

glad magnet
lament osprey
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GOTTA TRACK THE ABSORB NOW BOIS

lofty warren
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Ohh sure compared to like a dr % buff sure diff

solid sun
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Ummm

lusty grotto
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its not DR period

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its a partial absorb

solid sun
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Does the single button assistant use shield block?

lusty grotto
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no

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it does not

solid sun
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So can we even recommend using it?

sharp gale
lusty grotto
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we cannot recommend it, but that wasnt the question that person had

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besides, it'd be fun to check how close it is to our actual prio

open wedge
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Also what the fuck why did they remove immovable object

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That was cool as hell

undone beacon
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Because they hate us

sharp gale
open wedge
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It was fun to use shield wall like a mini avatar

lusty grotto
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shield wall

lofty warren
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If dr = your hp goes down less then it is but in what dr is used for in wow it isnt a dr agree. So he needs to change his hole statement

undone beacon
sharp gale
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But if your offensive cd is off gcd it will not case it

open wedge
lusty grotto
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Ip Is ThE mAjOr SoUrCe Of DaMaGe ReDuCtIoN aS pRoT?

glad magnet
lusty grotto
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do you play clown?

dusky canopy
# open wedge That’s pretty huge when paired with shield block

Just incase you genuinely miss understand, the reason you prefer to press revenge vs ip as a rage dump is because revenge not only deals damage but it also can reset shield slam! It comes in as a “prevent over capping rage” only ability because you cannot do that exclusively with revenge the damage it prevents is looked at as a “bonus effect” your primary mitigation is blocking and effectively using wall, reflect, d stance, and demoshout

open wedge
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Should be illegal to be this annoying

open wedge
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Everything has a purpose and for good reason.

lofty warren
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Mr 3xecute I only using for ip if youre ass is getting blasted

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Revenge better then ip in most cases

dusky canopy
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You realize you are likely wasting ignore pain value by hitting it when it could have absorbed something at its previous value and you could have cast revenge for a shield slam reset which generates more rage?

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Thus speeding up the cycle of immortality

lofty warren
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Ip to not overcap rage

dusky canopy
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(Excuse my edits mobile auto correct boss kek)

open wedge
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Of course there will be better circumstances for revenge being better than IP but what is the margin really that big?

glad magnet
solid sun
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It’s at least as large as your shield

dusky canopy
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Yes anytime you press ip outside of “preventing over capping rage”
You are effectively slowing down the cycle of rage generation thus making you less tanky over longer periods of time

lofty warren
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If i super messed up and I am at like 5% then I'll spam ip to try to not die in the next gcd

coarse bay
sharp gale
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Bc it is on the gcd

glad magnet
dusky canopy
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When you play this spec properly you will always have some active ignore pain it just might not be full

maiden tinsel
dusky canopy
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OJ gets it

coarse bay
toxic pewter
# open wedge Do you play vulpera

Vulpera one of the best races in the game for m+ nose for trouble is even stronger now since they removed the rage gain from avatar

open wedge
vocal junco
lusty grotto
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but it depends on your rage availability

coarse bay
lusty grotto
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youre not gonna slap it under 70 rage

glad magnet
maiden tinsel
lusty grotto
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you will slap revenge instead at that point

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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AM

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VO

sharp gale
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And gcd lock prevention

dusky canopy
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Yes we know about am and vo

lusty grotto
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and off gcd

dusky canopy
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What does that have to do with what I said

maiden tinsel
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I always thought IP was something you have up but not spam unless you are drowning in excess rage

lusty grotto
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the IP value does not matter

open wedge
lusty grotto
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what matters is your current rage

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so out of context, your comment might be taken incorrectly

lament osprey
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Is this IP again?

solid sun
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We care because we are helping people optimize their play

maiden tinsel
dusky canopy
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We were specifically discussing why ignore pain is only used as a means to prevent overcapping rage

lusty grotto
glad magnet
lusty grotto
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well yeah under 70 rage you do not send IPs

solid sun
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If you don’t care to play properly that’s fine but this isn’t the place for not caring about playing properly

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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yes

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i suppose you both are

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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if thats the context

lofty warren
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If you drop really low and gonna die next gcd maybe isnt it correct to dump all rage into ip plus other defensives?

dusky canopy
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I see how a lurker reading that and then leaving would be confused yes

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The downside of aol messaging

glad magnet
dusky canopy
lofty warren
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Anything helps? Its not like ip pandemics

maiden tinsel
lusty grotto
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correct, it wont save you

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alone that is

sharp gale
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and one cast of IP is not very big

lofty warren
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You can have multiple ips going at once

lusty grotto
open wedge
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And if you recast at 90-100 it stays at 100 pretty dope

sharp gale
dusky canopy
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When your primary focus is maintaining block followed by resetting shield slam if it isn’t available your ip will just always have some of the bar filled by preventing rage cap during the cycle

open wedge
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I’ve always wondered, what is the cannon explanation for ignore pain

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Like do prot warriors have dulled nerves

solid sun
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No

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They’re pissed off

open wedge
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Shit ton of calluses

maiden tinsel
lusty grotto
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its bear time pash

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give me talents

maiden tinsel
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Gameplay wise, its an absorb

tribal wharf
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block for things that can be blocked, reflect for things that can be reflected and IP/SW everything else away

open wedge
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It happens but you legit don’t pay attention to it

undone beacon
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Yes

maiden tinsel
undone beacon
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Canonically you are so mad you shrug off pain

solid sun
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Actually livid

open wedge
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Legit always just imagined like you get so mad you form physical calluses around your body

undone beacon
open wedge
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Due to physical stress

open wedge
lusty grotto
lofty warren
undone beacon
dusky canopy
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If you are at 10% hp you already are cooked

undone beacon
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Currently DotC is just tuned better than EC, and most of the talents are pretty static

solid sun
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Have they fixed the bugs

dusky canopy
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Typically bleeds and bolts

sharp gale
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You don’t panic

lusty grotto
open wedge
tribal wharf
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Alas brave, brave adventurers, your meddling has reached it's end. Do you hear the clatter of bone and steel coming up the tunnel behind you? That will be your impending demise.

dusky canopy
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Ahh yes blame the healer

tribal wharf
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soon

dusky canopy
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Always establish blame first and foremost

open wedge
tribal wharf
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pit of saron is great lol

open wedge
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Bonus points if you’re in VC with your healer and scream like you’re actually dying begging for heals

lofty warren
vocal junco
lofty warren
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Least on prog content

lusty grotto
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IP at 70+ rage

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use revenge under

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and only when SS or TC are on CD

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and keep SB up

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as thane

dusky canopy
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Nims faster read his

lusty grotto
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as colossus you just use revenge in place

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of TC

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depending on rage of course

solid sun
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Of course

lusty grotto
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SS > TC > Rev or Exe (ONLY AS THANE AND IN SINGLE TARGET)

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SS > Rev > TC as Colossus

dusky canopy
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Nome and jakey VoD is so goated for understanding Prot warrior

lusty grotto
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both keep SB up

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both use IP at 70+ rage

dusky canopy
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It’s still the same really and applies well

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Can’t find it

slow pilot
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we execute instead of ss at sub 20?

lusty grotto
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no?

lofty warren
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No

lusty grotto
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its a priority

slow pilot
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so ss is always prio

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ty

lusty grotto
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thats why the > are there

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you never execute in AOE, or as colossus

slow pilot
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my bad im confusing my specs

lusty grotto
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not even with heavy handed talented

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which is a dps loss to talent anyway

slow pilot
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what about ST

lusty grotto
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not even with deep wounds talented

lofty warren
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Execute is almost never touched. Not like pwar back in the day

lusty grotto
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i believe i just mentioned ST twice

slow pilot
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I’m using wowhead build is that meta thane for mythic

lusty grotto
lofty warren
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Use icy veins irs bettee

lusty grotto
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execute only made a comeback in TWW

slow pilot
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ty guys

open wedge
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and red right hand

lofty warren
slow pilot
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are all the icy vein builds better?

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even for arms etc

lusty grotto
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no for dps guides you can use wowhead

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since Archi is the one that writes them

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but i think he does icyveins too

ebon geyser
lofty warren
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For pwar iv idk about the dps specs. I think archimode is good and is wowheas

sharp gale
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He do both

vocal junco
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Is tough as nails worth it? There’s so many good talents at that gate it’s hard to justify

sharp gale
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Archimode do both icyveins and wowhead

undone beacon
toxic pewter
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I like icy veins for prot warr myself

lofty warren
tribal wharf
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I NEVER EVER REMEMBER TO PULL THEM OUT

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i hat that

sharp gale
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Wtf is shield barrier

lusty grotto
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shield barrier was IP 1.0

slow pilot
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and then I saw some video saying our execute makes our ST dmg some of the best

lusty grotto
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thats probably an outdated video

lusty grotto
slow pilot
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but I guess seething rage? makes shield slam just hit hard AF

lusty grotto
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you said "before TWW"

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and i told you

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DF was before TWW

solid sun
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Are you playing midnight or mists

lusty grotto
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and we barely used execute in DF because it hit for piss

slow pilot
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midnight

lofty warren
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Lots of things we re e before tww

lusty grotto
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youre not understanding the flow of the conversation

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i dont need to see the prio

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its literally what i described

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and besides the prio will change as we keep working on the APL

sharp gale
lofty warren
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Back in the day doesnt specify which day. Just some day in the past (mainly bc there are multiple)

lusty grotto
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SL nuked execute from orbit.... until TWW

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and we didnt even have execute in BFA

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or in legion

toxic pewter
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how come colossus doesnt use execute again? even in single target is that the case

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like i get revenge does more damage per global

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but like what if i want to save a global

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is there anything to be said about that

lusty grotto
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cause colossus does not have Thorim's might

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revenge just hits harder as a result

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Thorim's is 25% extra damage to execute

toxic pewter
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does revenge do more damage per 1 point of rage always for colossus

lusty grotto
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per resource sure

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and per second

toxic pewter
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even with zero stacks of colossal might?

lusty grotto
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yes

toxic pewter
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ok then im literally removing execute from my bar now then until its buffed (colossus only)

lusty grotto
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i mean we did mention it weeks ago

toxic pewter
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I know I sorta forgot the situation with colossus

lusty grotto
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the only situation where you press execute is strictly Thane and in ST, period

sharp gale
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thane is the hero with the 25% execute dmg node

lusty grotto
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Thane and AOE = no execute

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Colossus and ST = no execute

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Colossus and AOE = no execute

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Thane and ST = execute okay

glad magnet
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Probably small enough to ignore I bet. F execute lame button.

sharp gale
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When slayer prot yep

lusty grotto
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i wouldnt say tiny, but

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its also not massive

open wedge
toxic pewter
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...

glad magnet
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Yeah I’ll have to wait till all these APL cooks get out to us plebs

toxic pewter
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the math

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even as a feelycrafter I always respect the math

sharp gale
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The Machine

lusty grotto
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by APL cooks you mean wait until the 17th

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and hope to god they buff up execute again

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as well as the Apex

sharp gale
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After playing prot a lil more I question Blizz on the new revenge animation vs the apex talent animation

pastel sleet
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Do we know if this season there will be a free enchanted hero crests variant?
Like the one that just used for crafts. Typically end boss.

lusty grotto
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likely yes

sharp gale
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It was at the end of the campaigns in tww if I remember

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With the kill the last boss quest

open wedge
ebon geyser
glad magnet
tribal wharf
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mount

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ez

lusty grotto
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no we dont cause we're not little pink bitches

solid sun
#

I read that as punk bitches

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And then realized it was the relevant class color

ebon geyser
solid sun
#

But same diff ig

chrome lance
#

mmm. Mounts

lusty grotto
#

i wouldnt say that

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the pink class aint punk

#

dont insult me

toxic pewter
open wedge
ebon geyser
#

I mean i put my paladin in the last spot of my characters it was miserable and leveling and playing war has been ratJAMMIN

open wedge
#

also has anyone noticed that the final apex point for prot was just the passive buff shield block gave when it was active

#

took it away then gave it back when youre 90

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which IN OF ITSELF was orginally a pvp talent

sharp gale
#

It is the same with fury apex, they reduced reck duration and the apex increases reck duration

tribal wharf
#

just need 20 more mounts and i can quit

open wedge
#

yeah but they did kinda balance it out with a the gimmick of rampage being only 50 rage

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(in reck)

#

arms has heroic strike, fun call back and passive armor pen back

#

prot, just give em some damage and call it a day

sharp gale
#

Arms and fury apex have the exact same structure it is kinda meh

open wedge
#

just creative wise its pretty lack luster

#

prot couldve gotten something a bit cooler

#

but they did kinda use all the cool stuff on colossus and thane

sharp gale
#

In my eyes they have the same apex talent but fury second node is better bc slight gameplay change

tribal wharf
#

is this guy the pink lasers

#

or is that the other void du ngeon

pastel slate
ebon geyser
#

IF I might not raid mythic am I still in need to craft a weapon

toxic pewter
#

lol just got this error O_O

#

OOF

#

do i trust warband banks

#

do they still randomly lose entire banks and gold and stuff

sharp gale
toxic pewter
#

come to NA ill hook it up okayge

solid sun
#

I require gold pieces

solid sun
#

I will never afford enchantments in this economy

toxic pewter
#

lol

sharp gale
#

I checked my 2H craft mats it’s not very expensive

solid sun
#

I only have 4 gold pieces

#

That’s not true

#

I have received some gold from questing

#

@lusty grotto which ww guide does your brother use

#

Actually maybe babs does all three of them

lusty grotto
#

whatever peak has

toxic belfry
#

Hey gang quick question, I’m finding that I’m not able to keep up shield block super well without using heavy repercussions over into the fray. Is this a “beginning of the season not enough haste” issue or am I just being bad?

lusty grotto
#

no thats fine

#

we're all doing HR

solid sun
#

We’re all

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Yeah

lusty grotto
#

its just the start of the exp

solid sun
#

Nimchip too fast

toxic belfry
#

Dope ty ty ^^

lusty grotto
#

let me link the haste rating you need to swap

mystic cave
#

Was just typing that out in question form

lusty grotto
#

@toxic belfry

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haste is always low at the start of an expansion due to levels

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more levels means you need more rating for same value

toxic belfry
#

Oh sick that’s perfect tysm

tribal wharf
#

nexus point is really easy too

#

might re-roll brew

#

warrior old and broken

lusty grotto
#

i have finally learned how to exit the dumb haranir tree when you port in

mighty valley
#

is it possible to learn this power?

lusty grotto
#

every fucking time i port in

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i was like where go

#

but i have learned it

mighty valley
#

got one zone to go, haranir bottom tier for me so far

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looks beautiful though

lusty grotto
#

just go right after you port in

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face center, go right

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zul aman is probably my favorite one

toxic pewter
toxic pewter
lusty grotto
#

i dont really hate harandir

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its kinda fine

toxic pewter
#

I actually like all the midnight zones

lusty grotto
#

that being said, i do miss the wow factor of hallowfall

daring marlin
#

fake ass warrior....

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smh...

lusty grotto
#

negative ghost rider

glad magnet
#

I just never went there so boring

glad magnet
lusty grotto
#

to each their own

#

hard to beat hallowfall, it looks amazing

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that being said i didnt white knight paladins, i just said they werent punks

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smh my head

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they're still whiny little bitches xan

solid sun
#

My favorite so far is probably ZA

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I haven’t done much of haranir yet. ||I just finished the dream trial where they force you to be a druid||

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I got momentarily lost after ||waking up from the dream trial|| and took that as a sign I was too tired to continue questing but maybe that’s just the status quo

cerulean tusk
solid sun
#

LOL

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I def had you in mind when I typed that out

#

“Cat will be so happy they missed this”

solid sun
#

I will say though

#

The pangolin thing was sick and whatever their cat was is sick too

cerulean tusk
#

Slippery slope, straight into the dreamgroove with you

solid sun
#

Nu uh

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I’m not even in that discy so neener neener on ya

lusty grotto
#

nimchippy is feeling the 20% exp

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or 30% idk

ebon geyser
#

Nim. Should I make a weapon if im not gonna even set foot in mythic raid

cerulean tusk
#

Answer the question, Nim. What side are you taking?

lusty grotto
#

it doesnt matter really, youll have 4 sparks by the 17th

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so you can probably make both

cerulean tusk
#

dandy what first tho

lusty grotto
#

1 with myth crests and 1 with hero crests

lusty grotto
#

i dont agree with the valkyrs

cerulean tusk
#

Good rat

lusty grotto
#

but

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its their channel

#

so rat answer is whichever is fine

cerulean tusk
toxic pewter
#

I made a sword and I’m just gonna spend crests I’m too old to save shit for weeks

lusty grotto
#

wym

cerulean tusk
#

I mean, spend away, all the crests you got atm are pointless ones

lusty grotto
#

why are you saving lol

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we'll have 4 sparks on the 17th

toxic pewter
#

Yah i dunno just to ensure im not in a bad position later or whatever

cerulean tusk
#

They got guides that just doesnt say "spend the useless crests however you feel like"?

lusty grotto
#

hell

cerulean tusk
lusty grotto
#

we'll have FIVE sparks on the 17th

toxic pewter
#

Says not to spend anything or craft anything

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Yeah damn lol five is wild

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That’s before m+ even

cerulean tusk
#

The crests you got right now, will be dead useless when the season starts

lusty grotto
#

no sorry its 4 sparks

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5 by myth opening though

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the 24th

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so anyway thats 2 crafts, 1 with myth crests since 100 cap

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or one 2hander

#

@dusky canopy you did your m0s right?

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
ebon geyser
#

what comes out tomorrow?normal and mythic +

hidden veldt
#

Norm/heroic I think?

warm plinth
autumn heron
#

Raid isnt for another week

lusty grotto
#

nothing comes out tomorrow

autumn heron
#

You can check ingame calendar for release dates

lusty grotto
#

17th = heroic and normal

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24th = mythic

ebon geyser
#

ohh then yeah ill make a sword and shield

warm plinth
ebon geyser
#

is this shield or the normal one

coarse bay
ebon geyser
#

yeah nvm i just saw spell and though it was int

lusty grotto
#

unless perma embelishments are stand outs, we usually opt out of crafting those

ebon geyser
#

yeah no that was my bad i just read spell and though healing

cerulean tusk
#

I would prob craft that shield, just for fun funsies. Maybe the effect will be better than ppl and sims say.

Either way, crafted shield is temporary till I get my myth track one - why not roll the dice

ebon geyser
#

@lusty grotto what you mean 4 spark by the 17? are we gettig one a week?

lusty grotto
#

yes

ebon geyser
#

ohh dang , awesome ty

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so weapons are gonna go a long way then unless you mythic raid

autumn heron
#

Just so u know, craft sparks doubled in costs

#

They just got rid of the "half spark" system

ebon geyser
#

fffff

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lol

#

i mean then i guess shield is prio

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or is the raidbots working now

cerulean tusk
#

By the laws that bind us, we must say crafting weapon above shield is the play. For so Rat has spoken

I would just craft the Shield first, to make the tanking part of tanking just easier catman

coarse bay
#

Mwahi has spoken

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My personal preference will be shield first, but mwahi is big trust

cerulean tusk
#

I am wondering if this season will be the one where I dont craft a 2hander, only to get one in the vault two weeks in a row monkahmm

#

Gamba or not to gamb, guess I will decide after tuning is done

coarse bay
#

I say keep holding crafts just incase u vault what u craft

#

And at end of season fill the holes

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(For legal purposes, this is a joke)

lusty grotto
#

the problem this season is 1st boss is shield

#

and 4th boss is weapon

coarse bay
#

Actually ya i keep forgetting that

#

I wont craft shield

lusty grotto
#

and i havent checked the item pool for both on keys

cerulean tusk
#

Trust, if you craft it, it will drop - costing you 20 crests danderson

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Or no? Hms, napkin time cause lazy.
Mythic track:
2/6, +20 per level, 80
Crafted, 60 for 5/6, +20 80

So it is at least not a crest loss, just a spark gone

coarse bay
#

My warrior will probably be fully pugged so im banking on first bosses being early puggable

cerulean tusk
#

No idea, as the raid are smaller and all that

#

I havent given the raid any thought

#

Probably will be? Especially if you in a PuG (alt raider) zone

ebon geyser
#

windrunner spire 3d boss
1h
crit vers

magisters
1h
haste mast

academy
1h
haste vers

Pit
??

seat
1h
crit haste

skyreach
1h
crit vers

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this are the weapons at the moment on the dungeons the last 3 is what the journal has not what will or is dropping

tribal wharf
#

pit of saron weapon for tank

ebon geyser
#

i didnt added since it has dodge

tribal wharf
#

he also drops a really nice 2h axe everyone fights over

#

they'll change it to secondaries

#

some generic crit mastery thing

lusty grotto
#

sometimes they add and/or remove loot

#

so dont take the old drops as the ones we'll get

tribal wharf
#

they can always change it to one of those demonslayer affix swords

#

or a proc effect

#

if there is some need to do so

ebon geyser
#

i never go past hero track so sadga

cerulean tusk
#

6/6 hero, is the same as 2/6 mythic

So you are pretty high up there either way

ebon geyser
#

last tier work made raid impossible so i had to buy some runs

sharp gale
#

Can’t wait to hear the stories of pugs trying the 7th boss

cerulean tusk
#

Thought the new raid had less than that

sharp gale
#

I mean the 3rd raid first boss

cerulean tusk
#

Got ya

sharp gale
#

Since you can free enter no lockout until you kill it

toxic pewter
cerulean tusk
#

Probably

toxic pewter
#

oh wait it is

#

lul i can check on my char

#

interesting

cerulean tusk
#

Yarp, so remember to get a champion piece, before you upgrade your veteran (to save vet crests), then upgrade veteran to 6/6 to save champion crests - repeat this for every tier Hydrate

#

Just use this logic for HC+Mythic track tho, only time it is worth

tribal wharf
#

if you have rep you can get an easy 240 helmet for doing the stone quest in eversong

lofty warren
#

fastest delve to spam for levelling?

mighty valley
#

don’t you wanna do them all for the quests

fierce harbor
#

idk about efficiency, but I could run the southern one in zul'aman in around 4,5 min per run (including loading in/out)

#

ymmv depending on what version it is ofc, I freed some prisoners and avoided the traps, then run around the corner in the boss room to bunch everything up

kind talon
#

Is there a meaningful way to cut down on prot warr keybind amounts and still maintain most of your power?

lusty grotto
#

no

undone beacon
#

make sure rend, hamstring, and whirlwind are off your bars

lusty grotto
#

idk about that hamstring is useful

#

but if the mechanics dont warrant usage of it, sure

ebon geyser
#

any recommendation on easy delve to grind at 7 or 8?

undone beacon
#

it sits in my "break in case of emergency" corner, doesnt take a meaningful bind

open wedge
#

usually i pair it to my charge

#

so I just press charge again if I need to

tribal wharf
#

we have peircing how and thunderclap as it is for slows

open wedge
#

sucks that howl is a trade off of fear

tribal wharf
#

and other players with better spells than hamstring

lusty grotto
#

piercing howl has a cd

#

tclap is not 50% slow

open wedge
#

thats right! a cooldown does in fact have a cooldown

#

we're learning so many things today

undone beacon
#

I mean, to be fair if you take Crackling Thunder tclap is a 40% slow in itself

lusty grotto
#

so hamstring is superior for fixates etc

#

yeah sure

#

i mean its whatever

#

i do keep it bound though

#

its still a utility pick so it doesnt really matter for his question

#

since it was about power

warm plinth
#

I'm a big fan of hamstring

tribal wharf
#

i still think another class could do it more effectively

#

many such cases

undone beacon
#

i prefer my ham to be solid not stringy

warm plinth
#

I'm very uncomfortable with the backwards and upside-down names.

lusty grotto
#

that was a today meme

tribal wharf
#

cuz its meant for long duration, max slow needed, single target, which is like, never in a keystone

sharp gale
#

Im sorry you feel that way

undone beacon
tribal wharf
#

and in a raid, well, you have 20 ppl

sharp gale
#

Yeah until then, you have to turn your phone or put it in front of mirror

tribal wharf
#

like maybe you are going to use it on the chase ghosts in caverns 2

#

that are chasing some other player

#

that you make them collide anyways

#

hard to say where you will use in key

kind talon
lofty warren
#

what did they do to repairs? 1 dungeonwent from 20% to 0 and didnt even die

tribal wharf
#

sounds pretty normal to me

#

maybe not 20%, but you get attacked alot and every attack has chance to reduce 1 point durability

#

thus, i am black smith with armor smithing, so by end of an expansion, i can repair all slots for no money

#

but, you get enough gold from quests and pinnacle chests and such to cover it

solid sun
#

Do you lose 20% total or is your UI showing you only your lowest piece (which is likely your shield)

sleek sun
#

We using our sparks this week or nah?

solid sun
#

No reason to

sleek sun
#

Roger roger

mighty valley
#

beautiful pepega moment to say "i started a dungeon at 20% durability, what's the deal with this game"

ebon geyser
#

whats is the crest that we font care about?

#

vet?

lusty grotto
#

the good ones are none that drop rn

#

or

#

all that drop rn

ebon geyser
#

i mean im already behind... work keeps calling and i haventdone a myet

daring marlin
#

m+ sucks

#

M0*

lusty grotto
#

idk it felt pretty easy

daring marlin
#

not my point

lusty grotto
#

oh

toxic pewter
#

what sucked about em i had fun 🤷

daring marlin
#

not challenging and no loot dropping

#

duh

toxic pewter
#

yeah I cant deny i would like everything to be more challenging ya

daring marlin
#

glad I bitched

#

got the one piece I needed cuz of it

#

muhahahahahaha

toxic pewter
daring marlin
#

pretty sure these four weirdos I did a full M0 tour with yesterday dicked me

#

either someone was saved or they weren't looting bosses

#

never trust A52 people

#

sorry not sorry apb

toxic pewter
#

lmao

daring marlin
#

cringey losers on your server buddy

toxic pewter
#

it is said to be so

#

im prob the coolest non weird guy on a52 tho

#

to be fair i only ended up on this server cuz irl friends wanted to be on it years ago

daring marlin
#

more vet gear from prey tomorrow

#

:D

toxic pewter
#

prey actually pretty good feature

sleek sun
#

You guys sending your veteran crests willy nilly this week or waiting?

daring marlin
sleek sun
#

I'm at 236 without using any and the urge to hit 240 just cause is tempting

undone beacon
#

Vet gear is gonna get replaced super fast so unless youre trying to giga turbo optimize preseason might as well send em on M0 gear

#

Plus 6/6 vet gear gives you a free upgrade from 1/6 to 2/6 on that same slot in champ

undone beacon
daring marlin
#

hell yeah

lament osprey
#

Gear doesn’t matter now anyway

#

Not a big deal til March 24 for real

#

This min-max shit is dumb anyway

daring marlin
#

sure is

#

I didn't bother doing m0 til yesterdsy

#

I was vibing

lament osprey
#

Let me know how puggin heroic raid goes

toxic pewter
#

yah I just spent all my crests yolo

#

me want big ilvl now peepoHappy

lament osprey
#

You ain’t going big, you schmol

daring marlin
ionic fern
#

Easiest peasiest.

unkempt hazel
#

need me my vet chest and gloves

#

or im gonna absolutely fold in +2 trust

#

the blue item debuff is real

drowsy comet
#

Tank ego clueless
Tank do this, do that, why you dead, l2p clueless
Uninstall the game tank clueless

unkempt hazel
#

just overpull

#

everyone dies but u

#

therefore

#

everyone bad

#

except u

drowsy comet
# unkempt hazel just overpull

Yea then you get literal death threats and ppl telling you, you should unalive yourself..during a freaking dungeon bruh. But hey, tank ego is bad...

unkempt hazel
#

soooo

#

nothing changes

drowsy comet
#

imagine this

#

season didnt even start, no M+ yet. No raids, nothing, just M0.

And grown ass ppl acting like that online..

#

b-but tank ego bad

unkempt hazel
#

its sad but nothing much we can do bout it

#

well other than just blocking their arse

#

sweet silence

terse flame
#

I had the same issue yesterday - I was trying to replicate M+ pulls based on initial routing data and people bitched that I pull too big. If I took it slower, I got bitched for pulling too little... make up your minds please

unkempt hazel
#

I joined a learning group

#

we did almost every dungeon with good vibes

#

🙏

#

only wiped twice cuz nobody bothered to read mechanics

winter isle
unkempt hazel
#

imagine the dopamine hit when I overpulled a bit in magisters and watched all 4 fear casts get interrupted almost at the same time

drowsy comet
unkempt hazel
#

😔

sweet wedge
#

hey guys so what tree is pulling ahead on M+?

jagged pier
#

thane for m+ colosus for raid

#

no point in thinking about it till tuning tho

sweet wedge
#

I see, yeah coming from TWW the spec feels a bit wierd right now!

serene wave
#

Hey gang, I think I am being stupid but can you craft with no sparks? Like I see people online say use your vet crests to fill slots. How does one do that? If I go speak with the crafting order lady I have to put a spark. And I see no option enchanted vet crests. Is it even worth it? Do I save sparks for hero gear? I'm not sure how to go about it

#

Or is it blue gear I can craft with no spark and purple and up need one?

unkempt hazel
#

blue gear, idk if u can use vet crests but u can adventure ones

#

think I saw the option

slow coral
#

80 crest per item an it’s blue I think around 230 range

#

@serene wave

serene wave
#

I'll check the blue items when I get home then

#

I guess I'll wait to do stuff next reset and decide, might be good to up missed rolls n stuff

#

Not that it is relevant to be fair once hero week is here

unkempt hazel
#

yeah def run the m0s again first

#

not much else to do next week anyway

#

next reset I mean

#

but still what a week

serene wave
#

Yeah

drowsy comet
#

still kinda confused why crests per week is capped, like cmon man let there be some chaos lol

tribal wharf
#

boys, i hate to say it but there is a non 0% chance i give up pwar for brew, except for that it gives me duplicate 240s

serene wave
#

Is there any good shields in the available dungeons?

sharp gale
#

The question could be are there any shield with haste

#

I need to look the season loot table

#

It is kinda hard to see on the phone, but any shield with haste is a good shield, after being highest ilvl shield

lusty grotto
#

no, there isnt

#

well let me correct that, there is one haste mastery shield, but its not gonna be on a dungeon that shows up during the season (its in Den)

#

from what i can recall

tribal wharf
#

just what i said i mean, monk was pretty enjoyable so far

#

black ox statue and legsweep.

solid sun
#

Why do you like the statue

tribal wharf
#

black ox statue is amazing, i just drop it where i want the aggro to happen and it happens

#

good for prepull and gathering

solid sun
#

Doesn’t it die super fast

#

I haven’t messed with it at all because I always pull with ks and sck

tribal wharf
#

does what i want it to do

#

only shit part with monk is sometimes its "well, guess ill die now."

#

and efen then its cuz your not paying attention and stand in a circle or taking a bleed

solid sun
#

I usually attribute that sort of thing to me misplaying

tribal wharf
#

fear does that, fear is GG for monk

#

fuck all i can do about that

solid sun
#

I just assume I didn’t use the kit correctly

#

Anyways back to shields

tribal wharf
#

touch of death is better execute

#

"sheep" like effect

#

oh no there is some wizard man free casting shadowbolts endlessly for days just outside of the group im fighting

#

what can i do!

unkempt hazel
#

everyons a monk now

#

😡

tribal wharf
#

paralysis

#

one im thinking of

#

i mean, someone said they wanted the morshu back

daring marlin
tribal wharf
#

you may not like it but this is a REAL M AN

daring marlin
tribal wharf
#

i am morshu re-roller

daring marlin
#

Adventurer scales to 233

tribal wharf
#

could be any character

unkempt hazel
#

real ones been brewing

daring marlin
# tribal wharf

Bro looks like he came out of a Village People music video

tribal wharf
#

Come back when you're a little mmmmm richer
Can't give credit - gotta see the big picture

#

You want it?
Give me your rubies

lusty grotto
daring marlin
tribal wharf
#

who from this discord is here?

#

im not realyl going to ask any brew questions here anyways besides dduhhhhhh does monk use agility?

solid sun
#

I am in peak

tribal wharf
#

i was seeing WQ 1h

#

and also in the dungeon journal

solid sun
#

Khailby is, too

tribal wharf
#

this is also a large reason im monk for now,

#

all my other characters were lvl 80 with u nder 100 ilvl (LFD)

strong meteor
#

Hi guys. So last night tank my first murder row and damn those first pack hit like a truck. The rest of the dungeon was very easy but the bleeds come on blizzard. Any tip besides race change to dwarf (horde fan)?

lusty grotto
#

race change to dwarf

#

its all bleeds

#

at the start

strong meteor
solid sun
#

Isn’t there also a damage taken increase debuff

lusty grotto
#

just make sure you understand what applies them etc

daring marlin
#

just ip harder duh

lusty grotto
#

dont get hit by the dumb glaive or w/e its called

strong meteor
#

I think its the suriken or what ever but i tought i was dodging it

lusty grotto
#

it has a bigger hitbox than it seems

daring marlin
#

someone isn't doing a good job ignoring the pain!!!

lusty grotto
#

its not just that one

#

there's another bleed and yes, what Rhino said

#

all of them are dwarfable

strong meteor
daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

either way youre not expected to pull all mobs that apply bleeds at the same time, so just plan ahead

strong meteor
lusty grotto
#

and stagger the pulls