protection

[jagged pier]

It should be your prblem as well its the lowest simming tonker

[cerulean tusk]

I am 120% in camp, if you are selfsustained HPS tank, you should not expect great DPS

immortality should come at a cost

[solid sun]

I think that makes sense

[drowsy comet]

Perfect time to go outside, touch some grass

[cerulean tusk]

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-toji-fushiguro-crazy-finger-gif-1805143843479911745

[solid sun]

What is around that dude’s neck

[glad magnet]

I’m doing all the achievements and rares now

[daring marlin]

Cursed spirit. Has his armory inside.

[drowsy comet]

a spirit, worth to watch the anime. Pretty gud

[daring marlin]

Think I'll level DK next

[drowsy comet]

Why

[solid sun]

Why not

[cerulean tusk]

you a glass cannon, praying for healer to heal you tho

You do get to burst 200-300k DPS on AoE tho

that is fun

[drowsy comet]

Havoc really sucks tho. Multiple times I have out dps´d them, unlike Devourer they are strong af

[drowsy comet]

Because im curious

[cerulean tusk]

Never change, lill 'un, never change

[drowsy comet]

wdym

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Castaways-cat-pet-pat-GwPCcYgJXLRojvf8Oa

[drowsy comet]

im not a plant dog

[glad magnet]

unknown

[tribal wharf]

great

darkened monitor has returned for no reason

dunno even why it happened last time or how i fixed it, but its not dead yet

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dog-naughty-evil-smile-vNTIkYpoAUb22FhsVr

[tribal wharf]

i dont hate windows 11

but 10 was so much better

[drowsy comet]

win11 was great, until Microsoft kept fucking up their latest updates

24H2 was a freaking nightmare

[pastel sleet]

whats the haste breakpoint for ITF this season?

[tribal wharf]

i have a very mild take

condense that and pin it

[pastel sleet]

ty

[dark barn]

hi, heroic leap speed bonus stacks with piercing howl speed bonus?

[toxic pewter]

i dont think it does

[tribal wharf]

different purposes though

1 deals dmg with minimum range you only MS

1 is just a party MS

i mean it is an enemy slow, but basically everyone can do that effect anyways

not everyonc can do group MS

so we take soley for group MS

EG, you do any boss that has any kind of area attack at all.. pop it so dps can run out

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wwe-wrestling-2dq9KJThGwBv3sXSxT

[tribal wharf]

who else plays brew

[drowsy comet]

me rn cuz leveling one

with the apex talents I definetly see why brew is so strong and fun lol

[tribal wharf]

did u go shadopan or the other one

[drowsy comet]

I went with Master of Harmony, better Single Target damage, and basically the one wowhead recommended

[jade karma]

Hello!
New here,
Spell reflect work only on spells that are going to hit you right?

• Pls how to know which spells are reflectable and which are not?

Any addon or something that can help? Because from what i've understood there was a weakaura in previous expansions.

[undone beacon]

Spell reflect can reflect certain spells, but it also provides a magic damage reduction that’s not tied to the reflection. It’s our main magic damage mitigation, and that DR works for all magic damage not just targeted spells

There’s usually a spreadsheet that gets created, it’s not updated yet though

[shut summit]

will be updating it during the season, had 0 desire to touch beta this go around

[undone beacon]

Thank you Sense my beloved

[ivory barn]

the only server I can't use my hype emote 🙁

[timid wigeon]

hi, I have been healing prot war and brew. Prot wars aren't brick walls, they are iron walls. Why do people rank brew higher than prot war in tankiness ?

[drowsy comet]

skill issue

[cerulean tusk]

If true: Cause what cant kill a warrior, cant kill a brew. What can kill a warrior, wont kill a brew.

Surprised if Monk is more tanky tank tho, if they didnt redo something with stagger again

[tribal wharf]

oh, okay, i have been shadowpan 80-85, might try harmony in a second

[timid wigeon]

HoA stonereavers' mortal strikes >.<

[drowsy comet]

God Haranir are ugly

0 aesthetic vibe to it smh my head

[cerulean tusk]

Ez clap, just parry

[glad magnet]

-reacted with

[warm plinth]

This is my go-to skyhold hype emote

[ivory barn]

Finally found a way to hide bars in combat

[glad magnet]

eqol or mouseover action settings do that yeah?

[ivory barn]

Bartender 4 🙂

wait Eqol does that?

[tribal wharf]

why would you want bartender when we have edit mode

[ivory barn]

homie THANK YOU

[tribal wharf]

real ish question cuz details trumps bliz dmg meters

like, bliz dmg meter is good enough for all players

you got way more addons than i do , or diferent ones at least

[glad magnet]

obligatory action bars > cdm

[ivory barn]

I Didn't feel this was a lot

I used to have like 50 lol

[glad magnet]

what do you use sensei for?

[ivory barn]

that bar in the middle here

[tribal wharf]

thats about all i use

[glad magnet]

what does naowh qol do that isn't in enhanced?

[ivory barn]

I think today is a make UI day

[tribal wharf]

mostly the delve addons and such i dont have

[ivory barn]

ummm idk tbh He labelled it as a system enhanced addon and I havent dropped below my set 90 fps since installing it

[remote ocean]

Did you all know you're supposed to shampoo twice and not just once? I've only had good hair days since I discovered that.

its truly life changing.

[lusty grotto]

fucking reddit

getting downvoted for saying this

never change reddit

[solid sun]

I’m bald

[remote ocean]

I'm sorry that happened to you.

[solid sun]

I’m not

I’m super hot

[remote ocean]

Prove it. Pix or never happened.

[solid sun]

Are you flirting with me

[lament osprey]

Holy skill issue

[remote ocean]

Practicing. Dude. Once I posted a picture of mine to 4chan and I was told I look like Penn Jillete. I'm pretty sure I peaked in life that day.

[solid sun]

I’m surprised that comment got downvoted tbh

[lusty grotto]

why would you ever post something, let alone a picture of all things, to 4chan?

[solid sun]

That does seem crazy to do

[glad magnet]

in their defense, a huge portion of the population doesnt track the comings and goings of guide writers, so a vast majority of commoner prot warriors are probably playing with 5% haste and ITF while also taking backshots not knowing the mobs and routes and forgetting to press IP because their WA tracker is gone and their brain says they need it, so i would expect for a LOT of the general pop and healers, prots ARE hard to heal

[undone beacon]

taking backshots uwu

thats my contribution for the day

[lusty grotto]

its not a defense

im well aware

thats why i commented

then some guy replied with this

[glad magnet]

yeah, but you'll get downvoted because what your saying isn't in line with the reality they're living, so you're some dude claiming prots tanky when very clear (their experiences) it isn't

[lusty grotto]

which is fucking insane

[tribal wharf]

is it in the future in keys on rotation for the weeek this door will open in murder?

[glad magnet]

oh, that comments interesting

[solid sun]

I think one of our regulars mentioned that pwar isn’t necessarily the most intuitive without seeking guidance from more experienced warriors

[lusty grotto]

blocking isnt intuitive, i agree

thats in part why spell block was removed

[glad magnet]

on the other side, i just play ITF and stay battle stance and yolo some walls when im feeling at risk because nothing actually seems to hurt so im generally confused on all sides of the conversation

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

im rocking HR

[glad magnet]

when we start our climb up key levels i will

[solid sun]

In addition to blocking, I think IP adds to the unintuitive design

[glad magnet]

but right now its like, i wanna try to keep up with the bears and its fun beating arms warriors

[solid sun]

It’s very common for IP to be considered the primary defensive spell

[sharp gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009237219216719902/1201942150166609950/DuyFSlUx.gif

[tired edge]

I tried prot for the first time ever today while leveling my warrior from 60-80 and IP did indeed not feel very intuitive to me

Like I wasn't sure when I should revenge or IP

[undone beacon]

sorry nim gotta farm karma

[undone beacon]

IP is a rage dump, nothing more

Use it when you have high rage

Since its off gcd

[glad magnet]

yeah as a newbie prot IP seems like the it thing to focus on, after you read some guides and hang out here for a bit you realize your mistake but its common

[tired edge]

But what if you're very close to dying in a hard pull?

Would make more sense to use rage for defensive than dmg right

[undone beacon]

You have actual defensives for that, and IP wont save you since it gets eaten through very fast

[lusty grotto]

IP wont save you

[undone beacon]

It would be better to hit impending victory, shield wall, etc

[lusty grotto]

press victory rush or health pot, in that case

[glad magnet]

of course it wont, but superficial reading of the tooltips and lack of information makes it sound like it would... holy fuck, a permanent 50% damage reduction??

[sharp gale]

Press IP-> gcd lock -> dead in 0.5 sec

[undone beacon]

If you're on the brink of death, that typically means something else has gone very wrong

[solid sun]

Leap away very fast

[tired edge]

Man I played with a prot warrior friend of mine the entire last season and I'm starting to think that the dude does not know how to play prot at all even tho he mains it since bfa

[solid sun]

Unless the ranged are still owning you ig then kiting is less effective

[tired edge]

Unless IP used to be far more prevelant

[undone beacon]

You'd be surprised how bad veteran players are

[lusty grotto]

thats very likely

[undone beacon]

Some people dont want to acknowledge they are playing a spec wrong

[tired edge]

I'm pretty sure that he never ever used revenge and only spams IP

[sharp gale]

Yes it is one of the different way blizzard diversify tooltips, if it would be just give you absorb on every absorb effect ppl would complain every trinkets are the same (they are the same)

[tired edge]

Because he was always talking about how fast paced prot is due to spamming IP all the rime

[undone beacon]

Kid named being rage starved

[glad magnet]

to be fair, the loss of doing that isn't "that" high

[lusty grotto]

...

its insanely high

spamming IP?

what are you on about

[undone beacon]

Yeah just spamming IP is... bad

[lusty grotto]

not using revenge, sure

[glad magnet]

its like 8%, and for most people, thats well below over thinking and playing bad

[tired edge]

I'm not on about anything

Just quoting

[glad magnet]

im not saying its good

im saying, its not "that" bad

[undone beacon]

He's talking to Ezkath

[tired edge]

Oh okay makes sense

[lusty grotto]

but IT IS THAT BAD

[warm plinth]

Spending rage on IP means you're not spending it on potential SS resets, which means you're missing out on rage and damage from more than Revenge.

[glad magnet]

i was tanking 16s last season like that and "orange" parsing keys damage wise with huge healing, it was completey fine, it wasnt right, or "good" but for most people, its super fine

[undone beacon]

But yeah @tired edge IP is typically utilized as a way to dump rage when you're close to cap, like 70+ rage.

[tired edge]

He often said his finger hurts from pressing IP so definitely something wrong lol

[warm plinth]

In the form of less SS casts and less Avatar uptime, which then creates a negative in the feedback loop

[tired edge]

So your main defensive is demo shout and 100% shield block uptime then?

[lusty grotto]

wall

shield wall

[warm plinth]

Shield Wall iss our main defense

[sharp gale]

Spell reflect

[tired edge]

Does that get 2 charges at max or something

[sharp gale]

IV

Pot

[warm plinth]

Demo is used if you absolutely have to, but is mostly sent on cooldown for rage and the damage debuff on enemies.

[jagged pier]

No u reduce its cd through playing the class

[sharp gale]

If you are in that bad situation just shockwave

[tired edge]

I think prot is just the polar opposite of blood dk which is the only tank I ever really played

[lusty grotto]

yes it is

[tired edge]

Makes it kinda hard to get used to

[lusty grotto]

we're not a reactive tank

[undone beacon]

yeah BDK and Prot are very diff playstyles

[warm plinth]

It does have 2 charges with Defender's Aegis

[glad magnet]

honestly if he was using IP exclusively he might as well just macro it into slam at that point lol

[warm plinth]

And it's CD gets reduced with this

[glad magnet]

again NOT saying good

[lusty grotto]

this is bad advice

[tired edge]

I'm gonna interrogate him about it later

[lusty grotto]

stop giving it out

[warm plinth]

That would actually make it even worse because then you often wouldn't have rage for Shield Block.

[cerulean tusk]

the voices, they are returning

[glad magnet]

im not giving it out, im saying in context to this persons friend that decided to play like that, to save his poor fingers lol

[tired edge]

I read that talent but somehow missed it reducing cd on shield wall

[sharp gale]

You gave it out tho

[tired edge]

Which is why I thought you can't use it that often

[undone beacon]

One of the biggest mistakes of any new tank, including prot, is not using your defensive CDs

Dont be scared to use it

[pallid quiver]

you're still competing with people who miss resets and just don't press buttons

you're not really punished that bad for messing your base rotation up as long as you rotate defensives properly as a tank; it's at least much less bad than a DPS fudging it

But also, sometimes sending it all into IP increases your survival in a micro timescale of a single incident, but it comes at the greater cost of both overall survival and damage. Sense helped pad through one of the bleeds on first boss Priory in the first season it was in rotation this way because there were no tools left otherwise, iirc, on one of the videos on his channel

[lusty grotto]

Anger Management, core of us since... forever

[tired edge]

Didn't really touch warrior much since before today

[lusty grotto]

yes im just telling you where to find the CDR

since you asked about it

[undone beacon]

Do a read again of all the talents, mess around in normals or follower dungeons or whatever, and come back with questions! We dont bite usually

[pallid quiver]

this is like the second thing you need to do as a tank

the first is maintain aggro at all, or at least press taunt

[warm plinth]

Okay but I did my first follower dungeon last night thinking I didn't know the dungeons so I'll just do the required Den run that way

[sharp gale]

backshots

[warm plinth]

And jesus christ why did they program the other characters to run around like chickens with their heads cut off CONSTANTLY

[undone beacon]

Yeah the follower dungeons are uhhhhh rough

[glad magnet]

taking backshots can lead to some issues

[undone beacon]

Honestly good place to practice tanking since it basically puts you with 4 braindead pugs

[pallid quiver]

You can honestly manage in some content legitimately just pressing both your SS and TC buttons at the same time and letting what happens happen as long as you press defensives

[sharp gale]

I can’t get pregnant

[warm plinth]

Like I've played this game for two decades. I've NEVER, NEVER had a dungeon run where the entire group was just running around like that

[glad magnet]

not with backshots

[tired edge]

Will do ty

[smoky plinth]

Quick Q guys.
If i use spell reflection, and it reflects a spell immediately, do I still get the magic DR for the 5 seconds or does it fade?

[solid sun]

Dude I did den last night for leveling

That was fun!

[pallid quiver]

yep

[undone beacon]

Yes you keep the DR

[warm plinth]

🤮

[smoky plinth]

Beautiful. Thank you

[undone beacon]

I actually quite enjoy Den

[pallid quiver]

It is now two different auras; the current cooldown tracker even lets you track both

[warm plinth]

I don't even know you guys anymore

😢

[lusty grotto]

i said i didnt hate it

[undone beacon]

I just think its neat!

[smoky plinth]

Oh shit I didnt see a second aura. Thank you!

[sharp gale]

I did zulaman zone with a new player, he tagged den in follower dungeon I wanted to kill him

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[lusty grotto]

whats so wrong about it ghash?

[solid sun]

Dude pash in Den last night ||we were in one of the areas where you hide when the wind comes out and the bear clapped everyone with ice circles and I was the one survivor||. It was so funny

[pallid quiver]

I don't know if it shows that one on your buff bar, but it has two different spellIDs and auras that are actually active at once

[undone beacon]

Unrelated but got the priest to 90, being able to skip all of level 89 just by turning in delve quests was great

[pallid quiver]

sorta like how just being a tank gives your hidden auras to your durability

[undone beacon]

lmao i love that

[lusty grotto]

nimchipadin is hard stuck mid 89

[undone beacon]

It does

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

Shoulda done the delve strat

nerd

[lusty grotto]

did 3 full zones of side quests, all 8 delve quests, crafting

[undone beacon]

warmode?

[lusty grotto]

fuck warmode

calm down satan

[cerulean tusk]

Shield durability: "Takes three times that of anything else"

[undone beacon]

Well there you go, thats another 15% bonus xp on every quest soooo

[pallid quiver]

someone move my computer into my bed so i can slow rp walk my way through quests to get my first char to 90 before the week's over

[undone beacon]

including delve quests

[pallid quiver]

it's cold out

[warm plinth]

Offerings: stupid.
Wind shit: stupid.
Knockbacks everywhere (one boss even has two? why?): stupid.

Idk, it has no redeeming factors to me. There wasn't a single thing in there that was like oh this is cool

[pallid quiver]

i forgot what stupid thing I was doing in pre-patch, but I legit hit a point where I was concerned my shield was going to break before I was out of combat

[warm plinth]

Might be the first dungeon I hate more than Plaguefall

[undone beacon]

The only thing I dont like in Den is the ice physics boss that shit is annoying

[warm plinth]

(excluding every dungeon with Halls in its name that isn't Halls of Atonement)

[cerulean tusk]

that offering part is really quick to blast through tho

[undone beacon]

Rest of it is fine, i think it'll be very fun to route

[sharp gale]

Fuck that bear

[cerulean tusk]

ya only need to kill 1 bird, 1 pack of bears, then 1x2 bears

[solid sun]

Tbh when I got to the ice floor and it acted like Mario ice I was so hyped

[undone beacon]

me when i cant soak the mechanic because i slipped n slode out of it cuz ice

Fuckin sennarth flashbacks

[warm plinth]

This man just said slode

like it was a word

[undone beacon]

Yeah

[solid sun]

LOL

[undone beacon]

It sounded funny so i went for it

[warm plinth]

smh lol

[sharp gale]

Sloded

[undone beacon]

Cant handle the slode, brode

[solid sun]

I remember the first time I ever slode into home plate and was ruled safe

Core memory

[warm plinth]

It's fine; I created a new past tense word for yeet

[undone beacon]

yote

[warm plinth]

Did I tell you that already

[undone beacon]

No

[warm plinth]

IT JUST MAKES MORE SENSE RIGHT?

[undone beacon]

Great minds just think alike

[solid sun]

It was obvious given the context

[undone beacon]

Slode into that one ghash

[solid sun]

Pash slode so Ghash could yote

[drowsy comet]

[sharp gale]

Idk how, my fat dog and my scared of his shadow dog killed a fox

[cerulean tusk]

Yeet, yett, yoot

[drowsy comet]

Put yo dog on a diet, damn

[solid sun]

Were the dogs defending your roof goat from the fox?

[drowsy comet]

why do I think the dog is a massive bulldog

[sharp gale]

No he is just fat, not massive

[cerulean tusk]

Foxes do not stand a chance vs a goat

Jerv on the other hand

[solid sun]

What’s a jerv

[ivory barn]

benefit to crafting yourselve shit I guess?

[drowsy comet]

i should mind my own, but i wanna see the dog

[cerulean tusk]

Guess you call them Wolverine

[sharp gale]

5 min, im just thinking what im gonna do with the fox

[drowsy comet]

u gonna replace it the second you go into a heroic or straight into m0

[cerulean tusk]

We all do

[drowsy comet]

[cerulean tusk]

[ivory barn]

If I queued them as prot lol ☠️

Raid as a DPS so I have to focus rhat

[drowsy comet]

wait now im realizing, wtf is a fox doing in france

[cerulean tusk]

You hunter xp'd, drain it and gut it, pelt is a near catch

[drowsy comet]

respectfully. How dare you

Once a tank, always a tank

[ivory barn]

I'd be looking at a bench

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-muppets-meme-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-16984538577250620315

[solid sun]

Just wait for bear to get nerfed

[cerulean tusk]

To look at it, you first gotta get off it

[solid sun]

You’ll be tanking again

[ivory barn]

Bear or brew and I'm immediately tanking

[drowsy comet]

Claw of the Druid needs to get nerfed, the rest is totally fine actually. Elunes Chosen does still good damage on average

[solid sun]

Bear is 100% getting nerfed

[drowsy comet]

Brew.

[ivory barn]

Which is hilarious because I have the prot set on total standby

[cerulean tusk]

Unless they really want to force bear to be meta

Aint a 0% chance

[drowsy comet]

I dont think Brew is gonna get nerfed. Think its finally a playable and fun tank

[tribal wharf]

does anybody know if mm or bm hunter is good?

[drowsy comet]

But bear..is getting skinned and made into a carpet lol

[cerulean tusk]

They are both decent

[tribal wharf]

if i want to melee i got 5 other classes i can roll

[drowsy comet]

BM is dogshit, MM is decent

the BMs I did dungeons with were beyond doing dookie dps

[solid sun]

Idk cat

[drowsy comet]

But most DPS I see are either Mages, Warlocks, Rogues and sometimes but rarely Hunters, oh and DKs

[solid sun]

I know you’re often right but I think bear is a pretty significant outlier

[cerulean tusk]

When have i ever been wrong in here

[cerulean tusk]

❤️

[solid sun]

#protection message

[drowsy comet]

Ohh what a good boy. But he aint fat, he fluffy

[sharp gale]

So fat he broke his leg

[drowsy comet]

gawd damn

[cerulean tusk]

So fat pats should be given

Also some treats

[drowsy comet]

More treats

[ivory barn]

All I know is if they try and do this crap next time I'll be like well. Bench me cuz I'm mythic plus tanking

[cerulean tusk]

Tldr, me

Why u mad GG

[drowsy comet]

Are people even raiding seriously?? Besides Normal/HC and mostly for trinkets and set pieces, I barely see a reason to raid tbh

[solid sun]

GG stands for anGry Guy

[cerulean tusk]

CE raiding is fun

[lusty grotto]

yes?

[drowsy comet]

Whats CE

[cerulean tusk]

You just blasting with the gang

[sharp gale]

I don’t raid for gear, maybe that should help you to find why ppl raid

[lusty grotto]

Cutting Edge

[drowsy comet]

ah

[cerulean tusk]

Tbh tho, most fun I ever had was raiding with a normal guild that was try harding

[tribal wharf]

clear mythic raid within the patch it was launched is CE

[drowsy comet]

M+ is where the fun is that and the mental damage you get 😔

[lusty grotto]

except it helps to get myth raid gear for keys

[sharp gale]

You can get mental damage in raiding too, but yeah it disappears

[ivory barn]

Mad? No. Disaapointed due to the GM trying to get AotC week 1 so they can fuck off til S2? Yes

[lusty grotto]

and that has always been the case in WoW

[cerulean tusk]

If that is what they wanna do, join em and join a new guild week 2 with Curve on your side

I fail to see the problem. Win/win

[drowsy comet]

I think its possible to get Heroic gear quite fast, and with that to do +12s to get mythic track gear too, no? Might be looking at a whole different perspective otherwise

[solid sun]

lol I don’t think I’d stay in a guild that wants to get aotc week 1 and then quit

[lusty grotto]

how are you gonna get myth gear? you only get it in the vault every week

[cerulean tusk]

I been in those, i raid 1 week with em a patch

It is fun in its own right

[ivory barn]

I'm only doing it for M+ reasons tbh

[lusty grotto]

and historically weapons and trinkets from raid have been better than their key counterparts

[solid sun]

It sounds like being in a guild for like a week or so and then all alone

[cerulean tusk]

No, cause I know a secret

[drowsy comet]

Dont u get myth gear from m+ keys too?

[cerulean tusk]

The secret of networking

[sharp gale]

Secret of gold

[lusty grotto]

raiding is a big deal in WoW, the RWF numbers are enough to show that

[lusty grotto]

yes, every week from the vault

[solid sun]

I’m not good at networking :(

[cerulean tusk]

U r good enough just gotta give it more focus

[drowsy comet]

Ah vault, yea Ive been misunderstanding this damn

Guess Hero track gear will do it too

[cerulean tusk]

It wont

[lusty grotto]

[sharp gale]

It just takes more positive actions, but if you are curious in ppl, you can meet a lot of ppl in wow

[drowsy comet]

For the beginning it will lol

[cerulean tusk]

Moving that goal post

[lusty grotto]

yes thats why every raider spams the shit out of keys the first week

[sharp gale]

Like I tank some random key with some fury warrior in #fury -> I’m tanking a necrotic wake with retiredgodx and they ask me to do the full first pull

[glad magnet]

really hard line sometimes, been in guilds like that then boring expansion, but then again raid locking for 6 months facepulling bosses also isn't super entertaining, just gotta keep applying till you find a good home that fits your goals

[drowsy comet]

I wasnt talking about raiding primarily, more m+. There I think hero gear should be doing okay for idk what level. And then slowly you get upgrades anyway. God i couldnt imagine to be raiding as a primarily goal

[cerulean tusk]

Sure, and a man can go up a mountain with a broken leg

[lusty grotto]

well lots of people do it

more than you would think apparently

[sharp gale]

I do

[lusty grotto]

raiding as a primary goal

[grim pilot]

because most people have been playing this game for a loong time

new people tend to sway towards m+

raiding is archaic

[cerulean tusk]

No u

[lusty grotto]

thats very reductive

and opinionated

[grim pilot]

it's based on what i've observed

[lusty grotto]

when keys came out i stopped raiding

and im a vanilla player

[solid sun]

Idk why raiding would be archaic but m+ wouldn’t be

[lusty grotto]

i only came back to raiding myth in DF

[cerulean tusk]

Individual comes with personal opinion, this must be pointed out

• Rat

[glad magnet]

not completely wrong

[grim pilot]

i didnt say og players are stuck only raiding

[drowsy comet]

I like m+ and well, dungeons in general because I come from ARPGs. And well, there u endlessly farm dungeons and other things. WoW feels like an ARPG+ really, not a whole lot MMO vibe to it. Which is fine

[grim pilot]

i said new players prefer m+

[drowsy comet]

arent og players stuck in their classic nostalgia

[lusty grotto]

my current guild is full of Gen Zers

[cerulean tusk]

Yes and no, most newblood i spotted love raiding

[drowsy comet]

You feel old, dont you

[cerulean tusk]

Love the tribalism and drama

[glad magnet]

new gamers want a quick in and out match like fortnight, they dont wanna do some 4 hour scheduled event, mythic plus is almost too long for a lot of the new blood that surely is coming to the game

[lusty grotto]

no

im just saying myrt is projecting

[sharp gale]

I feel old in my own guild and I’m 27

[warm plinth]

My urge to play WoW has faded quickly. I am considering the unsub. Not even 90 yet XD.

[cerulean tusk]

Youngling!

[grim pilot]

it's true tho

[solid sun]

I am having opinions

[glad magnet]

probably because you're not tracking IP

[sharp gale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-67-scp-67-funyuns-funny-gif-75413186200073602

[drowsy comet]

im gen Z too, but I am differently. I promise. Dont throw me in the same box full of these idiots

[glad magnet]

all children are the same

[sharp gale]

You are in the same box

Accept your gooner nature

[drowsy comet]

I said dont, dammit

[glad magnet]

lil gup? more like lil goonerz

[lusty grotto]

how do you explain the typical MDI player? they dont enjoy raiding either, youre generalizing because youre projecting, that does not mean its an absolute truth

[drowsy comet]

There arent many Gen Zs playing WoW tho. So be happy yall got younglings, wiping yo ass

[grim pilot]

MDI players dont raid?

[lusty grotto]

can you read

[grim pilot]

why are you being offensive

[cerulean tusk]

Oh no, rat got his tail in a twist

[grim pilot]

did i hurt your ego or what

[glad magnet]

can you just try to make your point as a tiktok bro

[drowsy comet]

With a subway gameplay!

[cerulean tusk]

Myrrrt counters with sarcasm and flame

[lusty grotto]

because the picture your painting is "im right and everyone else is wrong"

[grim pilot]

as cool as you're trying to sound it doesn't come off the way you think it is

[cerulean tusk]

who will win

[sharp gale]

Love always win

[drowsy comet]

🫂

[undone beacon]

love wins

[glad magnet]

im way too old to sound cool its just fishing for rage baits with the occasional useful post for me

[sharp gale]

🫃
🦵

[glad magnet]

i dont like this

[undone beacon]

peak

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-gif-6576432567202084239

[undone beacon]

duality of man

[grim pilot]

no the picture i'm painting is I've met quite a few new players that just play the game for keys but i've never met a new player that only raids

[lusty grotto]

i have

and again, your perspective does not mean absolute truth

that was exactly my point

[grim pilot]

it doesn't mean it's not the truth either

[lusty grotto]

im not saying it is

[sharp gale]

It is not the forbidden emote here

[drowsy comet]

New players dont really like weekly lockouts from things. But thats another topic tbf

[solid sun]

Did you know a group of rhinos is called a crash

[drowsy comet]

i thought its a herd of rhinos

[glad magnet]

ive also met new players that came from being high ranked competitive shooter goats right into hardcore mythic raiding in HOF guilds because they liked the competition of it, i think you cant generalize what new players are really going to do or like as a whole unit

[lusty grotto]

yeah that was my whole point

[warm plinth]

I love that because it feels very fitting.

It would fit a group of woyers too

[sharp gale]

I don’t really qualify gen Z raiders as new players tho, bc you are no longer a new player once you are myth raiding (in my mind)

[ivory barn]

only thing I wish I could change is Blizzard's main fonts >.<

[drowsy comet]

Use elvui, problem solved

[ivory barn]

that addon hasnt touched my pc since S1 of DF

[strong forum]

⚫ 👄 ⚫

Robert

[glad magnet]

he joined the game, did 1 season learning how to play in a low end CE guild, then his second season playing went into an HOF guild, feels kinda new but he ramped quick and was incredibly talented

[lusty grotto]

my entire guild is full of gen z-ers

[drowsy comet]

Damn, why

[lusty grotto]

the guild literally broke because they couldnt deal with reforming after drama last season

they were and are great players, but recruiting is a massive wall to everyone but especially more so to people that are newer to the game

[ivory barn]

installed, PC capped at 40 fps, uninstalled immediate same place had 150

[sharp gale]

Yeah my brain can’t view that as a new player, he basically played a full year of wow

[undone beacon]

Robert scares me

[drowsy comet]

oof damn

[drowsy comet]

👄

[glad magnet]

🫃
🦵

[ivory barn]

funny part was the only addon I replaced it at the time was Shadowed Unit Frames

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-eh-eh-dark-smile-gif-17920182

[pearl glacier]

Really shoulda been a charge of
Rhinos

[drowsy comet]

dude u scared the shit outta me. My phone lagged for a sec and I saw this on fullscreen wtf

[solid sun]

Nah crash is awesome

[strong forum]

Good >:)

[drowsy comet]

Ah I see

[strong forum]

Whenever I did fps tests with elvui the conclusion was always "elvui wasn't the issue"

🤷‍♂️

[drowsy comet]

I hope your sleep paralysis demon gets you, have a wonderful night 🙂

[strong forum]

I'll just not sleep

Problem solved

[sharp gale]

Or wear socks, so the tickle demon is not juiced up

[drowsy comet]

aw u scared

[strong forum]

Bro my paralysis demon are the girls from high school who bullied me

[drowsy comet]

Mine would die and call for help after sniffing on my socks

[strong forum]

That shit scary

[drowsy comet]

unless they are goth girls, i dont see the issue

[strong forum]

Must be nice

[solid sun]

If you see goth girls call @toxic pewter

[strong forum]

Not being scared of women

[solid sun]

He’s an expert

[drowsy comet]

No. We had that already

[drowsy comet]

oh wait ur serious. Sorry then

[strong forum]

:d

[kind talon]

Why is prot damage so low 😭

[solid sun]

Has anyone seen these cute capybara hunters can tame this expansion? They do little head bonks

[glad magnet]

is prot low or are other tanks high?

[kind talon]

Messed with brm and good lord it was a different game

[drowsy comet]

Yes

[drowsy comet]

kinda low

[lusty grotto]

no

not really

[strong forum]

Bear is significantly overturned and bugged

[lusty grotto]

but we're not brew or bear levels of dps

[drowsy comet]

obviously

[lusty grotto]

but more specifically bear levels

brew is where all tanks should be after tuning

[drowsy comet]

bear is basically a 4th dps

[solid sun]

Brew is flawless

[drowsy comet]

i agree

[strong forum]

Bear is more than a 4th dps

[kind talon]

Bear is a third DPS lol

[strong forum]

They're first dps in aoe

[kind talon]

Bear does more than Moonkin or feral

So

[drowsy comet]

enjoying brew alot right now with the apex talents. Still learning cuz me dumb

[solid sun]

I am leveling my monk as brewmaster and originally was going to change to WW after hitting 90

But now I kinda just wanna be brew

[drowsy comet]

Feral is in the zoo getting laughed at by tourists

[solid sun]

I would never laugh at a cat

[strong forum]

Not as much as arms is

[solid sun]

That’s a great way to get bit

[daring marlin]

arms lmao

[sharp gale]

Arms ahahah

[drowsy comet]

arms needs a rework ngl. Anything would be better than it is right now

[sharp gale]

Have you ever tried arms lil gup

[drowsy comet]

once but then I discovered fury

[sharp gale]

Good.

[strong forum]

My condolences

[drowsy comet]

didnt stick too long on DPS in general. I cannot reaaaally judge, but Arms is... Yea

[sharp gale]

Dont look behind, they will resent you

[strong forum]

Fury is literally toddler just mashing buttons

Will never not be that to me

[drowsy comet]

Wonder how Arms mains get into any group for keys tho

[sharp gale]

They have bnet friends

[lusty grotto]

just like everyone else thats not meta

[sharp gale]

Yes exactly

[lusty grotto]

what happy said and/or they run their own key

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-baby-angry-tantrums-gif-12428208

This is fury

Nothing else

[winged oar]

LOL

[sharp gale]

I wish it was me

[kind talon]

Fury is cool

[glad magnet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fight-Tim0q7zolF3fa

[sharp gale]

That kid is cool

[strong forum]

Que?

[pearl glacier]

I’ll always be big stick zugzug at heart. The pain of not playing it is real.

[glad magnet]

thats arms

[kind talon]

Is there a tool where you can check different races with transmogs?

[strong forum]

Currently arms doesn't have them, ye

[sharp gale]

#delete auto rage gen

[drowsy comet]

Nah bruh, after learning and really exclusively playing tank for a few months now, I cannot go back. First I was really sceptical, if I really wanna do it. Tankxiety hits like a fucking truck. I see alot of ppl would go tank because dps queues are insane, but being seen as the leader, is for many stressful.

I did dungeons, alot of them to get over the fear. Watched hella guides from various creators, now really studying kira, I know its day and night difference from his VoDs, but generally how he plays in dungeons, really is fascinating. i sound like a freaking fan girl saying that lol 😄

[daring marlin]

@lusty grotto feels good tossing wake->DT->hammer and just going ham every 30s

[strong forum]

On wowhead dressing room you can freely pick your race and armors

[lusty grotto]

yeah but damage is ass in between

[daring marlin]

At least it's frequent!

[strong forum]

Theres also toys that can transform you freely into other races

Can buy them from the auction house

Consumables I think

OR

[kind talon]

Thank you man

[sharp gale]

I know I should be ashamed to even mention it, but lately I see more and more people *complain" they have so long queue times because they play DPS. But at the same time they say Tanking isnt hard as yall say. Its easy to learn, hard to master. The real deal is when DPS push you against a corner and tell you how you have to play. Like dawg, you have the absolute EASIEST job, deal damage and use your freaking interrupts. heh, some ppl even fail at that
imho DPS literally have no right to complain, you wait longer to get into a dungeon? Open your own lobbies. Its not hard

[strong forum]

You create a trial char

[drowsy comet]

Oh yea that...

[strong forum]

And then check tmog there

[drowsy comet]

[glad magnet]

I know I should be ashamed to even mention it, but lately I see more and more people complain" they have so long queue times because they play DPS. But at the same time they sayTanking isnt hard as yall say. Its easy to learn, hard to master. The real deal is when DPS push you against a corner and tell you how you have to play. Like dawg, you have the absolute EASIEST job, deal damage and use your freaking interrupts.heh, some ppl even fail at that*
imho DPS literally have no right to complain, you wait longer to get into a dungeon? Open your own lobbies. Its not hard

[drowsy comet]

whoops

NOO DONT TURN ME INTO A COPY PASTA

[strong forum]

I know I should be ashamed to even mention it, but lately I see more and more people complain" they have so long queue times because they play DPS. But at the same time they sayTanking isnt hard as yall say. Its easy to learn, hard to master. The real deal is when DPS push you against a corner and tell you how you have to play. Like dawg, you have the absolute EASIEST job, deal damage and use your freaking interrupts.heh, some ppl even fail at that*
imho DPS literally have no right to complain, you wait longer to get into a dungeon? Open your own lobbies. Its not hard

Too late guppy boi

[drowsy comet]

NAWWW COME ON

[winged oar]

I know I should be ashamed to even mention it, but lately I see more and more people complain" they have so long queue times because they play DPS. But at the same time they sayTanking isnt hard as yall say. Its easy to learn, hard to master. The real deal is when DPS push you against a corner and tell you how you have to play. Like dawg, you have the absolute EASIEST job, deal damage and use your freaking interrupts.heh, some ppl even fail at that*
imho DPS literally have no right to complain, you wait longer to get into a dungeon? Open your own lobbies. Its not hard

[glad magnet]

any post of sufficient length is inherently a copypasta

[drowsy comet]

Bloody hell, I dont deserve this

[strong forum]

Ezkath gets it

[glad magnet]

my wisdom is only overshadowed by my stupidity

for it is vast

[strong forum]

What you're gonna do, is as simple as you're gonna garrote one, garrote two, garrote three, rupture vendetta exsanguinate! yeah? then you're gonna fok fok, rupture again, you're gonna vanish, reapply garrotes, especially on the target you don't have, and that's it, then you're gonna ct (crimson tempest). Look at my damage, right now, fucking 40k, it's fucking over dude. Oooh. How the fuck though LETS GO

[sharp gale]

Don’t do Reddit posts here

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1405832910250053743/arms_deadge.gif?=)!

[coarse bay]

What you're gonna do, is as simple as you're gonna garrote one, garrote two, garrote three, rupture vendetta exsanguinate! yeah? then you're gonna fok fok, rupture again, you're gonna vanish, reapply garrotes, especially on the target you don't have, and that's it, then you're gonna ct (crimson tempest). Look at my damage, right now, fucking 40k, it's fucking over dude. Oooh. How the fuck though LETS GO

[glad magnet]

What you're gonna do, is as simple as you're gonna garrote one, garrote two, garrote three, rupture vendetta exsanguinate! yeah? then you're gonna fok fok, rupture again, you're gonna vanish, reapply garrotes, especially on the target you don't have, and that's it, then you're gonna ct (crimson tempest). Look at my damage, right now, fucking 40k, it's fucking over dude. Oooh. How the fuck though LETS GO

[sharp gale]

Fok fok

[winged oar]

u gonna fok on me

[solid sun]

What you're gonna do, is as simple as you're gonna garrote one, garrote two, garrote three, rupture vendetta exsanguinate! yeah? then you're gonna fok fok, rupture again, you're gonna vanish, reapply garrotes, especially on the target you don't have, and that's it, then you're gonna ct (crimson tempest). Look at my damage, right now, fucking 40k, it's fucking over dude. Oooh. How the fuck though LETS GO

[glad magnet]

What you're gonna do is simple. You're gonna charge in, shield slam, thunder clap, revenge, yeah? Then you're gonna shield block, demoralizing shout, ignore pain, and revenge again. Then you shield slam the proc, thunder clap again, keep that ignore pain rolling, and that's it. Then you avatar, spear, thunderous roar, and start spamming revenge. Look at my damage right now, fucking 40k, it's fucking over dude. Ooooh. HOW THE FUCK THOUGH LETS GO.

[solid sun]

Hey cam how is WW

[solid sun]

Since you’re a CE RL now I can go to you for factual evaluations of different specs

[tribal wharf]

old shit post i made when i was mad as hell at wow

theres supposed to be like shield blocks n shit in ther elol

[cerulean tusk]

asking anyone about WW, is like asking the moon it self, you might find an answer - but only within yourself

[tribal wharf]

but that video is, like, its like how i feel like wow combat endgames at

and its annoying as hell

giant cluster fuck of numbers

[coarse bay]

I havent played ww since legion

Surely its like

Um

Fun, but bad in m+? Totally based on facts

[cerulean tusk]

Oh, cam quick question

Can I join your team?

[coarse bay]

Rhino is team leader

[cerulean tusk]

I am as good as in

[coarse bay]

We’re gonna make a great team

@solid sun are u gaming rn?

[tribal wharf]

i cant lie i have ZEROunderstanding difference of shadowpan and harmony beside fire breath and maybe more charges brews for harmony

[drowsy comet]

No fucking way

😭

[sharp gale]

I have some understanding of harmony, that’s the reason I stopped playing my mw in S2

[drowsy comet]

I would highly recommend a guide. Sha is a good guy and it helps learning to understand how brew plays

You're gonna scream alot at your healer so focking true

[tribal wharf]

harmony does feel better though overall

somehow

just feels

not fact

[jagged pier]

Guys

[coarse bay]

You're gonna scream alot at your healer so focking true

[jagged pier]

If u want to talk about monk

[drowsy comet]

Shadowpan has cool visuals, but Harmony does more damage

oh

[jagged pier]

Theres a whole discord

This isnt the place

[drowsy comet]

Jakey

[coarse bay]

Thank you sir jakey

[drowsy comet]

Khaliby is active in monk discord ngl

[jagged pier]

Khaliby

Seen him in DG too

[coarse bay]

Khaliby is active everywhere, you cant hide from him

[toxic pewter]

[solid sun]

We always talk about everything here

Whycome sometimes we get to an sometimes we are told to stop our yammering

[jagged pier]

We dont always, i dint ever metion monk past if i enjoy it or not or how teir lists speak about it

We dont go into specifics about how x works

[cerulean tusk]

Jakey?

[lusty grotto]

it is done

chipadin is 90

[jagged pier]

Now do 3 more

[coarse bay]

Grats nim

[lusty grotto]

[cerulean tusk]

Jakey, can I join your raidteam?

[drowsy comet]

@toxic pewter

[jagged pier]

Im not in a raid team

So no

[sharp gale]

Roid taught me how to play mw in this channel

[toxic pewter]

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/LTFmLb6e88cPz2sjux

[drowsy comet]

I still like you

[toxic pewter]

[jagged pier]

Well what u want i dont have a team 😂

[coarse bay]

Jakey is the team

[jagged pier]

And i have no interest in it ither

[drowsy comet]

Make one, duhh

[toxic pewter]

Jakey is a one man army

[jagged pier]

I could literally join my guilds raid team today, by saying i want to

[solid sun]

Yeh we def talk specifics. We learned MW and RSham and we have learned arms and fury and bear. WW is the where the line is drawn :(

[jagged pier]

Well not when ive been around

Or in a mood

[cerulean tusk]

Because noone knows whats up or down with WW

[sharp gale]

I might have explained few bdk stuff here too

[cerulean tusk]

doubt

[drowsy comet]

Eat a snickers

[jagged pier]

Kitty just complains about it being bad

[sharp gale]

Or that time a vdh had trouble on sprocket and we learned all together wtf is vdh to answer him

[jagged pier]

I rather would, compared to where i am now

[drowsy comet]

Oh

[solid sun]

I hope wherever you are gets better

[jagged pier]

It will get better when i leave

[drowsy comet]

This

[cerulean tusk]

If I wanted to discuss it, I got places to go - this is my complainy spot

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-evans-thegrayman-lloydhansen-gif-26865767

[jagged pier]

Exactly

[cerulean tusk]

Not boring, fun - Guil. I stirr up some drama from time to time by doing it

[jagged pier]

I mainly said it, because i know what yogi is like. And there no point discusses monk with him

He wont learn and its a waste

Just send him to peak if he wants monk specfics

[cerulean tusk]

Rude, even if it is partly true

What yogi do to you

[daring marlin]

Not listen for years

[dusky canopy]

the grind begins

[jagged pier]

He spent the entire of SLs askijg for help which we constantly gave

[dusky canopy]

[jagged pier]

Then literally at the end said yer i didnt read any of it

[daring marlin]

LMFAOOOOOO YEAH

[cerulean tusk]

I love those tho

[drowsy comet]

Im sure hes a nice guy

[cerulean tusk]

Not even as a yogi case, just a generic case

[solid sun]

I read every message

[cerulean tusk]

You go into great detail, explaining, spoonfeeding, and after 30min of "discussing", you get the
'Lol, I didnt read any of it.' from em, as if they did a win

[solid sun]

Unlike that mean Yogi

[cerulean tusk]

Yogi I usually skim, ngl

brain looks for keywords

[sharp gale]

I read every Pepegas message

[cerulean tusk]

not context

[drowsy comet]

I study this dudes lore

[solid sun]

When I wake up and get ready for the day, I make breakfast and then catch up on all the pwar messages I missed while going seepies

[jagged pier]

I mean yogi has been fine cause he jist talks about doom

Pepega tho god

[sharp gale]

But I don’t read your copy pastas

[cerulean tusk]

What? You dont enjoy answering the same question over and over, to the same guy - just in slightly different shades of colour?

[drowsy comet]

[fluid widget]

has the crucible of erratic energies API been implemented?

[drowsy comet]

What? You dont enjoy answering the same question over and over, to the same guy - just in slightly different shades of colour?

[sharp gale]

At least pepega is not aggressive like Bobby in fury, each time this lad appears I wonder how he is not banned

[cerulean tusk]

What? You dont enjoy answering the same question over and over, to the same guy - just in slightly different shades of colour?

[cerulean tusk]

BobbyB is my favorite little gremlin to mudwrestle

[solid sun]

I am very aggressive

[cerulean tusk]

We waiting for you to explain that statement

[solid sun]

Can’t believe I’ve never been banned

[sharp gale]

Rhinos are territorial

[solid sun]

I’m always hooting and hollering about something

[cerulean tusk]

Hm, perhaps, but ya aint making noises that raises blood preassure of anyone else

so meh?

[sharp gale]

He is way more efficient to bait ppl, but it make me feel very bad

[solid sun]

I’m being silly

[cerulean tusk]

BobbyB in it for the game, I can respect that. Tho he goes too far sometimes

[drowsy comet]

What? You dont enjoy answering the same question over and over, to the same guy - just in slightly different shades of colour?

[cerulean tusk]

[drowsy comet]

No you are not rhino

[solid sun]

https://tenor.com/view/gladiator-finance-pledge-of-allegiance-gif-25410786

[cerulean tusk]

what does this mean?

[coarse bay]

Theres a chest in the neighborhood

That annoyed me enough to find it

[cerulean tusk]

aight, time to attack that

[coarse bay]

Just gives housing xp i think

But that popup wont leave otherwise

[cerulean tusk]

I havent been at my house in what feels like months

[sharp gale]

Should I open the neighborhood chest each time it’s full ? I have often the message, should I bother ?

[coarse bay]

Idk

I opened it when it annoyed me enough, weeks of it saying that

[cerulean tusk]

Cam, I cant find it, is it inside my house?

[coarse bay]

No its in the little town place

With the general contractor and quests

Then look for the yellow dot on the minimap in the area

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/saluting-sir-yes-salute-cat-UDORIcubjYvIBAYTe1

I did the housing thing

I am now cool and hip

[coarse bay]

Big

Cool

[cerulean tusk]

Actually remembered you had this NPC to talk to

to upgrade your house

[tribal wharf]

did i read right long ago like 6 - 12 months is that chi torpedo got nerfed to hell?

[coarse bay]

Monk players would know better, ik it isn't taken rn though

[tribal wharf]

they changed something with how it works, oh well

i'll look it up at some point, brew guide

[warm plinth]

It does damage/ healing now but they took away the speed boost

It's dumb

[coral quartz]

guys looking at the opener is it worth macroing taunt avatar and shield block as it looks its casted as one global

[strong forum]

do not macro those

[coral quartz]

thought so

[lusty grotto]

do you want to taunt, spend rage and avatar at the same time?

at any moment?

you gain nothing from it

[coral quartz]

no just the image is it all as one global probably a dumb question im fairly new to prot

[lusty grotto]

its not a global

they are off-gcd

[strong forum]

its between globals!

[lusty grotto]

they are done in between gcds

the gcd abilities are the bottom ones

the abilities on top are off the global cooldown

which means you can use them in between GCD

[coral quartz]

aye just with them all on the same line i guess i got a bit confused

[lusty grotto]

you have time, on a charge there's travel time

so you can press those 3 pretty easily

its harder to do if you have 2 gcds that do not have travel time (especially with haste) for sure though

but thats not the case

[coral quartz]

so it would be taunt, av then shield block whils charging over

is this all the time

this is the standard pull for all situation

[lusty grotto]

ideally yea

and yes pretty much

[strong forum]

if youre starting from 0 rage yes

[coral quartz]

I need to taunt more i guess thats what im missing

thanks

[lusty grotto]

taunt is more for ST than anything

aka raids

or bosses in M+

in keys, you gotta be careful to reset it if you need it on a pinch

by using heroic leap

and strictly on aoe

[coral quartz]

yeah so in keys i was using it only on bosses or snapped aggro

[lusty grotto]

right

kinda common sense since taunt is not challenging or disrupting and does no aoe

[coral quartz]

yeah

[strong meteor]

Hi guys. So i play MT all S3 on my return to the tanking world. Done AOTC and KSM and a few little more. I really enjoyed but my 45 years old but is getting a lot of issues tracking all the sparkie procs of MT.

On midnight i tried Colossus and the slower play style is combining a lot with me and having a lot more fun.

So the usual question, is MT a lot more better than colossus?

[lusty grotto]

nah they arent too far from each other

youre good playing colossus

thane is very very slighly ahead

[pallid quiver]

ur slightly ahead

gottem

[lusty grotto]

but i wouldnt say youre missing a whole lot

[strong meteor]

Nice

[lusty grotto]

we will see what happens on the 17th though, but for now play whichever you like the most

[strong meteor]

Im really enjoying colossus a lot more its nice to see the diference is minimal

Ty all

[pallid quiver]

Like Nim said, they've pretty much all but stated they're planing on tuning when seasons drop proper and heroic week is over with iirc? is the specific date, so this could change depending on what they do

[strong meteor]

The only thing I switched from wowhead build is the into the frey for repurcations (soz for English) for better SB uptime

[lusty grotto]

use the icy veins builds instead

[pallid quiver]

Honestly, as long as you're low on haste, that's probably the call in M+

[lusty grotto]

or the ones at #protection-faq

[tribal wharf]

i like how monk is just like "guess i'll die"

[pallid quiver]

and you're almost certainly gonna be low on haste in S1

[tribal wharf]

2 cds 1 is 7 minutes the others is like 2 minutes

[lusty grotto]

but yeah this was a good call

[strong meteor]

Going to try thanks

[lusty grotto]

just icyveins for now

[strong meteor]

Ty for all guys

[lusty grotto]

no probs

[pallid quiver]

Note that your baseline rotation lowers the CD on any ability with brew in the name, Yogi

and a lotta your defensives have brew in the name

unless you're not talking brew in which case iunno

[strong meteor]

Btw guys since im lvling BS right now, should I craft shield or weapon?

[lusty grotto]

[pallid quiver]

From what I remember, there's a lot of easy access shields, so as long as you're doing difficult content, probably wep

[strong meteor]

Looool

[pallid quiver]

or craft a 2H for fury and get discounts on upgrading both slots and fury OH

[strong meteor]

Ty once again

[lusty grotto]

[rocky crest]

should we craft something the 1st week or just collect and wait ?

[lusty grotto]

unless you wanna burn gold, you can wait

[glad magnet]

shoulda made fury SMF instead of TG so i could craft a 1h and use for prot/fury

[rocky crest]

🫡

[daring marlin]

alternatively make prot use a 2H in their MH

[glad magnet]

this would probably be the best option now

[solid sun]

The pin was edited to reflect the teachings of Mwahi

I must commit this to memory

[glad magnet]

all tanks can pretty much use their weapons in their dps specs except the shield tanks yeah?

[daring marlin]

fuck them shield tanks

losers

[solid sun]

Rude

[glad magnet]

so true king

[daring marlin]

imagine needing a shield

just parry 4head

[glad magnet]

dodge tank when

[daring marlin]

they'd never survive raime the fume knight

[lusty grotto]

in classic

specifically druid

also monk exists in retail so idk

[tribal wharf]

alot of derp moments with brew lol

[tribal wharf]

almost done

[runic granite]

We can all dream

[mighty valley]

and use more sparks? get outta here

[lusty grotto]

@undone beacon or anyone, any Altoholic alternatives?

fucking LUA errors all over

[undone beacon]

I used AlterEgo last xpac

havent set it back up for this one yet

Worth testing

[lusty grotto]

ok ill look into it

[pale wharf]

what stat priority are we going lately??

[lusty grotto]

same old one

[pale wharf]

Strength
Haste
Critical Strike
Versatility
Mastery

[cerulean tusk]

ilvl
Blockvalue
Mastery
Crit
Vers
Haste

and you cant stop me

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-chicken-counter-ZZuxeF2H0wTza

[lusty grotto]

yeah so i was talking more about inventories, but this one looks good https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/onewow-alt-tracker

alter ego is great but i use SavedInstances

i might just change it though

[undone beacon]

Ahhhh got it got it

Syndicator?

[toxic pewter]

i using a lot of the 'ator' addons myself they all pretty good

baginator solid bag addon

[lusty grotto]

is there an ator for alts?

[toxic pewter]

well that syndicator u mentioned show a lot of inventory related stuff yeah

but not ssure like althaholic level

[lusty grotto]

i have them

but not sure if it has a search

[toxic pewter]

i use uhhhhh bagsync not bad

has a searchh

[lusty grotto]

oh na that looks ugly af

im just gonna give the onewow thing a try

though this kinda seems like a scam in some ways

yeah idk fuck it, i aint gonna bother

[tribal wharf]

people got kick bots for lfd

so i go offline

so vulnverable to kick from group

second time

cuuz its i dc

i log in within 10 seconds

and then VTK

wtf is this game

[ivory barn]

Honestly there needs to be a grace period if you dc

But I feel like that would be abused

[tribal wharf]

this group way better anyways lol

nobody dying to random sit

healer not bitching about nothing

blinding vale new plague fall, im calling it now

imma start quit out of that one

[tribal wharf]

that was pretty fast

[ebon geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

[soft yew]

mountain thane the way to due to phalanx synergy?

[jagged pier]

It doesnt matter u tc and ss on both as highest prio cause rage gen

[soft yew]

copy

[drowsy comet]

@lofty warren i need your professional opinion on this latest archon tierlist

[toxic pewter]

[drowsy comet]

i couldnt believe my eyes..

[jagged pier]

Good

Less ppl

[drowsy comet]

wdym by that

[jagged pier]

Less fotm rerollers

Less strimmer fan boy andys

Makes the chat a nicer place

[ionic fern]

Agreed.

Let us be bottom to the un-educated.

[drowsy comet]

ahh

yea i mean, the balance tuning on the 17th will show the truth (kinda)

i think they will continue that till 24th or something, from what I have read

[jagged pier]

Yer we unfortauntly in a good spot

We are good defensively but weak offensivly so we are likely to get buffs which where the others get nerfs

Well bdk should be buffs to

[drowsy comet]

8% damage buff

[cursive flicker]

Hi, im trying to level my warrior as protection but i dont have any shield. Where should i get one? This is an alt and my main is already 90 so i do have access to world quest, unfortunately no shield reward.

[toxic pewter]

can buy one off the auction house

[drowsy comet]

i dont have gold, how do i get one then

[toxic pewter]

can even get a rare one for not that much

[drowsy comet]

dafuq 5k gold for a shield lmao

[toxic pewter]

run dungeon as dps with loot spec set to protection

can get that 192 one

cheap

[drowsy comet]

hm bit better then

[cerulean tusk]

• Death strike now always heals from a pool taken over 6 sec (doesnt consume it)
• DRW now gets 5 sec reduced CD when bonearmor gets consumed
• Tombstone makes its return
• bloodmist now consumes 5 stacks of bonearmor, but grants 10 over its duration
• final part of apex also grants additional 10% chance to Parry during DRW

[cursive flicker]

imma just gonna go with this suggestion, i do have a bit of gold but spending that amount of gold for a shield only to be replaced a level later is questionable 😭

[toxic pewter]

well just find a cheap one on ah a green shield is fine

like u can find one for like 50 gold i bet

[cursive flicker]

for level 80 i saw 8k gold, theres on below 100 gold but level 83 😂

[toxic pewter]

yeah 8k is a bit steep

[cerulean tusk]

I bought stuff from underCutters, for like 90-120g a pop

[toxic pewter]

wait what is undercutters lol

sounds intriguing

[cerulean tusk]

Ppl who place in items to have others put in theirs for a far below market going price

[toxic pewter]

can even ask in trade chat a blacksmith can make u one for cheap I bet

[toxic pewter]

ohhhhhh lol i thougght it was a person or something

i misunderstood

[cerulean tusk]

Well they are, but ye

[toxic pewter]

yeah a specific dude i mean

but yeah

[cerulean tusk]

Ye

[toxic pewter]

also ask your guild

if u have one

surely someone can hook u up

hell even if u are NA ill give u a shield right now

lol

[cerulean tusk]

Why ppl buy gear tho, you can do m0s with 180 gear ez. BDK i bumped to 190 for comfort

[toxic pewter]

true

[cerulean tusk]

Buy the 100-500g gear, if you really want the safety of ilvl

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hindu-bjp-laude-ko4UuHFAOZE3jN3qRB

[cerulean tusk]

Indeed, i know blizz never would put fun back in

Only removal is acceptable

[drowsy comet]

no fun allowed

[tribal wharf]

dk and paladin both at 80 i know, buti think hear that boyh are kind of bad

not sure what else ill level to 90

[solid sun]

Cat did you level NA characters yet so you can be on the dungeon team

[drowsy comet]

kinda funny that ppl whine about how "long" the leveling experience is. I mean its perfect rn, TWW was fast af and many ppl now whine because Midnight is longer oh no

[dusty orchid]

And its still easily finishable in a day!