protection

[lusty grotto]

this is what im running

as thane

[raw whale]

I did 2 sims with the same talents tree, except for overwhelming rage. I switch with Shockwave and i get a kinda big difference of dps with only this change :

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/afRS3PyKBLBLHDeQeBaN6t

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7Zx8wKyhTjv6CBbEpUs5Lz

[tribal wharf]

no intervene as thane? i thought the shield was for u and a friend

[raw whale]

Oh the values aren't the same on the preview

[lusty grotto]

i dont run shield

[lusty grotto]

dont run 5 mins sims for AOE

1.5

or 1m 30s sims

[tribal wharf]

ah, i seem to recall it gave both players a shield but maybe it always was it just give them a shield

[raw whale]

ok

[dusky canopy]

Prot warrior doesn’t run shield

Caught

[lusty grotto]

storm shield

[jagged pier]

storm shield is bad

now theres no cc cap

storm bolt one is way better

[lusty grotto]

[raw whale]

I still have a 600DPS difference
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q1ai2MLULk1A5XLQNEZuWH

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bZbFKX5WuNzWChXfsJDDVt
I don't think i scuffed the consumables but considering the margin of error should be only ~50DPS it's weird that the rage cap increase change the dps this much

[lusty grotto]

it happens

[raw whale]

I'm just wondering why since the robot doesn't even overcap it. is there any reason for this ? Because it's constant

[lusty grotto]

why arent you running stance mastery

[raw whale]

I've been trying stuff and i noticed this so i stopped

The trees are the same except for Overwhelming rage so it shouldn't have any incidence

[lusty grotto]

thats beside the point anyway

we have conditions that are rage dependant

but

actually let me check

low dps one has 1 less revenge, 1 MORE TC, etc

• variance

etc

more ticks of rend

ill look into it

[raw whale]

The ignore_pain conditions use rage.deficit which is relative to max rage, isn't it? I'm kinda new to using the APL so i'm not sure

[lusty grotto]

thats what i want to make sure

[raw whale]

It may sound twisted because it's from my head but i think that higher max rage = higher threshold for "rage.deficit<=15" = fewer defensive Ignore Pain casts = more rage for DPS.

[lusty grotto]

IP isnt the problem

[ivory barn]

I logged out in fury 😭

[daring marlin]

someone tell the sun to come out

cloudy rain days got me tired

[ivory barn]

34k on fury seems hella sus

[jagged pier]

nope

thats fury

[ivory barn]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4pnM6swhERhMSfnPyPuKoT

Just bad stat then

[dusky canopy]

Imagine Arms does 20k

Kek

[lusty grotto]

ill hit you back so you can rerun them after i get done with work, just stand by

will be a couple of hours

[raw whale]

sure let me know where it's coming from i'm looking at it too

[lusty grotto]

one thing to consider is that overwhelming rage's job is to prevent overcapping, the sim will never overcap, its a human-comfort pick

[drowsy comet]

Damn

[lusty grotto]

but i need to rule out if there's any shenanigans with percentage based conditions vs actual rage amount conditions

[ivory barn]

What did I break now 😭

[drowsy comet]

Nothing all gud

[daring marlin]

lmao I simmed my 202 ret in AoE spec and dps was similar

can't be accurate

[drowsy comet]

I mean the specs arent really good in damage anyway...

[ivory barn]

Considering the cheese to fury is a 7 stack strength % odyns fury right now

Ramp>reck/Ava>ramp>ramp>OF lol

[daring marlin]

https://fixupx.com/professor__bone/status/2029601390683623665?s=46

Bone's Warcraft Memes (@Professor__Bone)

This is a trap, DPS will flame you if you don't instantly know any and all routes/skips.
︀︀
︀︀Lucky for me I'm a narcissist so their criticism falls on deaf ears.

Quoting ˗ˏˋ cassie ˎˊ˗ (@SimplyCassieTV)
︀
"I wish I felt wanted"
︀︀just play any tank class and queue up for a dungeon rn

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FixupX · Mar 5, 2026, 4:54 PM

based tank pov

[ivory barn]

Not really, is I'm not pulling an entire room/hallway DPS are just pulling for me

[drowsy comet]

Let them die. You pull, you tank

[lusty grotto]

thats tank ego

[drowsy comet]

Show dominance

[lusty grotto]

we say no tank ego

[ivory barn]

Then you get kicked lol

[lusty grotto]

just fucking tank it its our job

swallow your pride

[drowsy comet]

but only sometimes, not super often

[lusty grotto]

never

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/catch-gif-26421781

[ivory barn]

I pulled an entire dungeon to first boss, let's just say that was the only time I didn't hear a complaint

[raw whale]

I'm maybe wrong, but i created a custom APL to touch ignore pain
The result ended to this :
(with overwhelming rage)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3BUuFpFDgtDLTCYvkxY6cD
(without)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3A85kAhQ3usk1LZpMPyKuY

Which looks a bit more close to the expected result. I just removed and readapted without the rage deficit. My only worry is that it obviously reduced the Ignore pain total hps (from 49.1% to 47.7% in the worst scenario). So i'm pretty sure there are a lot of tuning to do with that very long line but i'm not sure if that's acceptable to have a change, since the DPS is what is display way bigger than the HPS, considering we're tanking and we should focus solely on survivability, the metrics tends to focus more on DPS

This is what i've edited

actions+=/ignore_pain,if=(target.health.pct>=20&(((rage>=85&cooldown.shield_slam.ready)|(rage>=80&cooldown.shield_charge.ready)|(rage>=80&cooldown.demoralizing_shout.ready&talent.booming_voice.enabled)|(rage>=85)|(rage>=60&cooldown.shield_slam.ready&buff.violent_outburst.up&talent.heavy_repercussions.enabled&talent.practiced_strikes.enabled)|(rage>=83&cooldown.shield_slam.ready&talent.heavy_repercussions.enabled)|(rage>=82&cooldown.shield_slam.ready&talent.practiced_strikes.enabled))|((rage>=70|(buff.seeing_red.stack=7&rage>=35))&cooldown.shield_slam.remains<=1&buff.shield_block.remains>0))),use_off_gcd=1

[drowsy comet]

Pull bigger
Here have the entire first quarter

@ivory barn look how he has more damage

[toxic pewter]

oMGG these new kobold onesies in game shop.. gotta get em haha

[dusky canopy]

Jokes on them I pull everything in sight and don’t give a shit if the dps can’t organize CC to stay alive

Them problem

[drowsy comet]

Expensive as shit

[toxic pewter]

I know…..

[drowsy comet]

But they look so cute

[toxic pewter]

Gonna spend gold screw it

What’s a half mil

No big deal

[drowsy comet]

u rich af

[toxic pewter]

Ehhh down to only 6 mil

:/

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-comics-table-flip-gif-25874129

https://x.com/i/status/2029645513772208484 Holy fuck

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead)

These new Housing Decor Packs will set you back $100, but they provide nearly $130 in Hearthsteel value!

#warcraft #midnight

https://t.co/QwzN8HZdXI

X · Mar 5, 2026, 7:49 PM

@toxic pewter ay time to convert more gold 😂

[toxic pewter]

da fuk

130 dolla u kidin me

this is what a warrior in their prime looks like in 2026

[ebon geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-kill-fuego-matar-incendiar-gif-5307315

[pearl glacier]

pretty soon we will have dance emotes like fortnite

cant wait for the demon hunter collab skins and dances

[undone beacon]

man i really like wood and mushroom aesthetics i hope i can get some for my house

The dreaded hearthsteel:

[toxic pewter]

[drowsy comet]

Is this supposed to look like a chimpansee? And wtf is that furry inside doing

[toxic pewter]

[undone beacon]

Its supposed to be a kobold

[drowsy comet]

If thats a kobold, I need to get glasses

[sharp gale]

Very cool warrior, I wish it was me

[desert brook]

Hey all, are we going a specific hero talent for m+? Just hoping back on the war. Was wondering how we were doing in keys and such and which hero talent is doing well.

[toxic pewter]

[lusty grotto]

keys arent live

play whichever you like the most

[toxic pewter]

I have been having most fun with the 1 point phalanx colossus build

[desert brook]

Was just wondering if one was favored over the other is all

[lusty grotto]

keys go live the 24th, not now

until tuning passes happen, both are tied

[dusky canopy]

Bro alright I’m ngl
I think I’d be down with having emotes like that 🤣

[lusty grotto]

or extremely close to each other, so if you have a preference, go for that one

[solid sun]

Brew flossing at the end of the dungeon after he beats me in dps as arms

[lusty grotto]

and as always the builds are in #protection-faq

or icy veins

[dusky canopy]

You know it too lmao

[toxic pewter]

lol

[dusky canopy]

I like the emotes

I’m a Fortnite dad

[sharp gale]

Imagine an mvp screen at the end of m+

[dusky canopy]

Gotta carry the fam to victory

And emote on the nubs

[sharp gale]

And your tank doing 6-7 emotes

[pearl glacier]

i am also a fortnite dad i guess.. but my 9 year old can kick my ass now. It's a little sad. I used to be so good.

[dusky canopy]

Mine haven’t surpassed me yet but my time as the superior fps gamer is probably about over in my household

Damn kids are getting pretty good!

[tribal wharf]

how is blinding vale on mythic?

[pearl glacier]

i have significantly better aim.. but their movements and building and stuff is absurd

[dusky canopy]

Dude the freaking building!

[tribal wharf]

not part of the coming rotation

[dusky canopy]

My oldest is a builder

Can’t stand that mechanic

I hear the little shit laughing his butt off in the other room as he sky scrapers away from me

Smart really

[sharp gale]

It was alright when I did it, barely noticed the mythic mechanics tho

It’s not my fav dungeon tbf

[pearl glacier]

is the box wars that are crazy. They do these like temproary walls, drop them, shotgun me, rebuild... crazy.

[solid sun]

Bro my daughter looks at video games and is like

“Dad can you show me videos all about hippos”

Or some other animal

Just extreme disinterest

[pearl glacier]

yea.. one of my kids is video games all the time.. the other just talks to his alexa about random facts.. "what is the biggest cabbage ever" is one i heard last night, lol.

suppose this is offtopic, ill stop

[solid sun]

Cabbage Facts is lit

[sharp gale]

Came here for dog infos

[dusky canopy]

Oh dude we’re always off topic here lmao

[solid sun]

That’s true

[dusky canopy]

Yesterdays topic was laying pipe
for example

[solid sun]

Expert here

Hi

Consider the pipe laid

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/scarlett-johansson-wink-smile-seductive-cleavage-gif-27413040

[solid sun]

Wanna see the pipe I laid

[pearl glacier]

How about my goodest boy

[dusky canopy]

Very good boy

head pats

[solid sun]

That’s a very pattable head

[sharp gale]

Less thoughts = more pattable

[pearl glacier]

Oh, there are barely two brain cells to rub together in that noggin

[dusky canopy]

That guys definitely got a bone on his mind

[dusky canopy]

Massive eye dilation there’s a rodent!

[solid sun]

My homie’s preferred spot is my shoulder like a dadgum parrot

[dusky canopy]

He’s on the hunt bro

[solid sun]

And my daughter named him Soup

[jagged pier]

[dusky canopy]

I’ll be mid end boss and mine will full out back stretch and then plop right onto my keyboard while I’m spamming keys like bruh really!?

[tribal wharf]

i dont understand the flower boss trio in vale at all lol

[solid sun]

lol

[tribal wharf]

havent tried to run it yet

[drowsy comet]

How is Phalanx doing tho? Havent messed with it, running the basic wowhead build lol

[tribal wharf]

but im trying to read all the stuff i have to do

[sharp gale]

One of my two dogs have 4 brain cells so it is less pattable bc he knows how to open doors

[drowsy comet]

oh god cat and doggo pics

[dusky canopy]

🗡️ NOOB

[toxic pewter]

I think its decent personally, can actually do OK damage, nothing amazing but not awful.. I expect it and many other apex talents to be buffed on the 17th

but 3 points are more valuable elsewhere imo

[drowsy comet]

Is it a kitten or is the cat just very small, or are you so tall 😄

[drowsy comet]

I am proud of it 😔

[dusky canopy]

Hehe

[drowsy comet]

Oh okay okay

[toxic pewter]

selling these decor for 50k each

would u spen 50k gold on this

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto remember the back cracker 3000 in high school?
I just found a similar desk in work storage and man I’m telling ya that was peak cracking

[jagged pier]

collectors will

[dusky canopy]

About to buy one stg lmao

[toxic pewter]

yah i have already sold like 5+ decor

actually pretty profitable

going around getting the lumber isnt bad either

[pearl glacier]

Blah, can’t sell the black smithing decor to save my life. Went broke buying the claws.

[sharp gale]

It could be a wonderful camera in one of my room

[toxic pewter]

yah I mean its pretty sick right?

i like it a lot

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

I got at least 5 pops and it started to feel like I’d paralyze myself so I stopped 🤣

[drowsy comet]

If I get an autograph from you, maybe

[toxic pewter]

[dusky canopy]

I wouldn’t spend any amount of gold on housing decorations

[toxic pewter]

lol

i wouldnt either

[dusky canopy]

Hmmm with the exception of any target dummy related things

[sharp gale]

Would you spend any amount of time in housing ?

[tribal wharf]

that javelineer is great lol

[drowsy comet]

Nvm, my gold then

[dusky canopy]

Nope haven’t even opened the window for it lmao

[lusty grotto]

i dont even have a house

[dusky canopy]

Me either

[toxic pewter]

hell yeah it is

[drowsy comet]

Should have paid rent, thats how life goes

[tribal wharf]

healer left before first boss lol

[sharp gale]

I have one but i found out you need to buy multiple times items, I never bothered to do the interior

[drowsy comet]

1 bed, 1 chair, 1 desk, 1 lamp. All u need

[sharp gale]

I will not go back and forth Mechagon bc I forgot 1 lamp

And those rep are not account wide, it is painful to search which Happy has the right rep

[dusky canopy]

They need to give me a target dummy that does absolutely nothing and stays full health so I can play the prio without constantly executing

[lusty grotto]

that reminds me

[drowsy comet]

The target dummy is the boss

[lusty grotto]

are there target dummy furnishings for the houses?

in xiv there were

i spent countless hours there

[drowsy comet]

Not that I know

[lusty grotto]

bear would know

[drowsy comet]

But you have a 100 bucks bundle

[ivory barn]

But it's the new gold sink

[near garden]

What's a good way to track the remaining hp value of ignore pain?

[lusty grotto]

theres none

but its nothing you have to worry about

[lament osprey]

No way

[ivory barn]

The 1-100 on the stack counter

[lusty grotto]

if anything you can see absorb on your player frame

[lament osprey]

But why would you?

[lusty grotto]

people REALLY like to look at IP values like they matter

[near garden]

Bleak

[lusty grotto]

its been almost a constant question in here

[upbeat plover]

It must be at 100 at all times

[lament osprey]

Hmmm, track shield block up time vs IP?

[ivory barn]

Above 50? Unless it's below 3s I don't cast it

[drowsy comet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/14zt0NsNuc i know its kinda off topic, but I think this is a good lesson to learn, tank ego being this bad? Jesus

[lusty grotto]

you know we meme Reddit here right?

[sullen valve]

It's on reddit
I already know it's bad

[ivory barn]

[lusty grotto]

they love IP there

for whatever reason

[sullen valve]

IP should be removed from the game

[drowsy comet]

Yes, but im curious still

[lament osprey]

Reddit posting/reading is brain rot. Next

[drowsy comet]

No shit

[toxic pewter]

they should remove ip and give us like a HUGE hitting rage dump ability

[sharp gale]

Whatever he says, he is wrong and ppl answering are wrong

[lusty grotto]

agreed

but make sure its off gcd

[toxic pewter]

can even have a cool effect

can even remove execute too screw it

[ivory barn]

Make Colossus scale with rage spent

[toxic pewter]

yeah i said it

or turn execute into that ability

[drowsy comet]

The post is about the random tank having tank ego. Saying he complains there is no damage and the whole group wiped. Saying the healer is the most shit (the guy wh wrote the post)

[lament osprey]

Does execute work again?

[lusty grotto]

call it "heroic strike" make it off gcd and not "on next swing", remove it from Arms

[lusty grotto]

only in ST as thane

[drowsy comet]

I know reddit is bad and cringe but this caught my attention

[lament osprey]

gg

[sharp gale]

You don’t need to explain, he is wrong and dumb, and everyone answering are giving wrong and dumb answers

Typical Reddit post about wow

At least /competitivewow have rare interesting posts but not worth the dig

[drowsy comet]

Yea but tank ego is bad tho. I mean my pulls are more safe as I personally dont like to overpull and cause a wipe (I play like a pussy)

[ivory barn]

how to limit test in a dungeon pull till you can pull no more, then pull more

[dusky canopy]

[mighty valley]

i don't think it's really newsworthy that sometimes a person in wow is an asshole lol

do your best to not be that person

[ivory barn]

But my social contract will fix it

[edgy patrol]

I did a limit test pull in a 230+ group and someone told me to hurry up and stop fucking around brother what is the rush there’s no content

[drowsy comet]

As I said, I start a dungeon abit slow dont do gigantic pulls, but when I notice the group is doing good, I am abit more open

[lament osprey]

Limited time at night

[dusky canopy]

Exactly that ^

[lament osprey]

I pull crazy, but I also let the group know what to do before hand

[dusky canopy]

I have like 6 hours a week outside of the 6 hours I raid to get shit done people can’t be wasting that time

[mighty valley]

it's a bad time to be chillin, so many people in wow right now are in a huge hurry to get to max level and...wait

[drowsy comet]

You guys communicate?

[edgy patrol]

It was like 30sec extra I’m not buying that excuse lol

[dusky canopy]

Well yeah that’s petty

[mighty valley]

simply play with your wife and see the sights, ez

[dusky canopy]

I’m more so talking about the guys who join the group and then say brb for 10 minutes at the start

Like bro wtf are you doing

[sharp gale]

Idk I’m the kind of ppl who vote kick ppl

[lament osprey]

Yes for RE: requiem

And arc raiders

[drowsy comet]

M0 rn is bad anyway, on seasonstart u get champ gear for it tho

[coarse bay]

If you arent doing dpsdmg’s mdt routes, what are you even doing

[drowsy comet]

[edgy patrol]

Vote kick never works 🙁 and it’s def not because I make the kick note extremely vulgar

[dusky canopy]

Odd thing to specify innit

[ivory barn]

Does mdt still work? I was going to test something

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/poul3-f-r3veil-p-gif-10988460833755738340

[drowsy comet]

Yes

[sharp gale]

I specify the vote note like dc or afk, he is gone in 5 micro second

[drowsy comet]

You guys are rude

my bad I dont have NASA wifi

[sharp gale]

Im rarely rude tho, but yes sometime I am

We begin a dungeon and you log out, I’m just waiting 1 min, not 5 or 10

[sullen valve]

they should remove shield slam and replace it with Extra IP

[drowsy comet]

woah no buddy

[lament osprey]

Yall are nice I insta kick and look for another my time is precious

[lusty grotto]

i hope to christ you remove the IP uptime check on WoWA

[drowsy comet]

[lusty grotto]

and make sure its pressed at 70+ rage

instead

[solid sun]

@drowsy comet soup is a kitten. He’s quite small

[sullen valve]

I'm going to listen to mwahi for all that suggestion stuff

[drowsy comet]

Ohh small kitty cat

[lusty grotto]

i dont think mwahi will tell you any different

[drowsy comet]

I had a goldfish once, but it drowned 😔

[dusky canopy]

I’d fail that one I’m absolutely guilty of pressing iP when I could have revenged 🤣

Man I want banner gameplay speed back so bad

[solid sun]

I have to press buttons fast

[drowsy comet]

A chain hook ability to pull 3 mobs, thatd be cool

[sullen valve]

I will tell mwahi that ignore pain uptime is important

and I have a good argument for it too

[solid sun]

When I accidentally ip instead of revenge I just tell myself I zigged instead of zagged

[lusty grotto]

then i will not recommend WoWA at all even after your update

[drowsy comet]

Zug zug

[urban bane]

the prot discord community split ala the bdk split begins here

[lusty grotto]

if we have to endure more baseless IP related questions because of it and not just healer-looking-at-hps / reddit... so help me god

[solid sun]

Why is the bdk community split

[drowsy comet]

We are nice and friendly here

[solid sun]

Do some of them think you shouldn’t press death strike or smth

[drowsy comet]

Kinda wish we would have more haste tbh

[dusky canopy]

I track and maintain ip at all times

[lusty grotto]

a tale as old as time on expansion releases

[dusky canopy]

[sullen valve]

What about if it was only uptime upon hit?

[urban bane]

no it is just a whole thing. if you like drama i think there's some info on it out there. Basically one theorycrafter disagrees with the mods and theorycrafters of acherus. and tensions just slowly grew

[daring marlin]

Many such cases

[sullen valve]

like you took x hits without IP

[dusky canopy]

Didn’t they boot bicepspump because of that

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/no-balls-dukes-talking-gif-15555192

[drowsy comet]

Dew it

[lusty grotto]

your mom would kill me

[urban bane]

Unsure if it had to do with it but 🤷‍♂️

[dusky canopy]

Lmao 🤣

[urban bane]

I don't know the whole story I just wanted to make a joke

[sullen valve]

So you love my idea nim?

[urban bane]

😭

[dusky canopy]

🤝

[lusty grotto]

no

[sullen valve]

So you take hits without IP?
wow you really are a DPS gamer

[dusky canopy]

Can you specifically track ip casts when the buff wasn’t already active

[lusty grotto]

if you had said x hits without SB, then i would love it, sure

[lusty grotto]

rage management, so no

[sullen valve]

I'm going to make it complain if you take too many hits with SB

[solid sun]

Can WoWA track if people got hit in the back

[drowsy comet]

Theres healers, no need to ip

[lusty grotto]

this isnt about DPS or not

[sullen valve]

yes

[lusty grotto]

its about proper rage management

[dusky canopy]

Or yeah even better, hits taken without ip active

[drowsy comet]

[sullen valve]

ummm... maybe?

[solid sun]

Back hits are a common issue that a lot of beginners don’t realize even matters

[sullen valve]

okay, don't hit shield slam

[drowsy comet]

What is that pepe even impressing lol

[lusty grotto]

i dont see your point here

[sullen valve]

there is no point
I'm rage baiting

[lusty grotto]

i said that because you said "you really are a dps gamer"

[lofty warren]

In one of the new dungeons the big ass last boss bear - is he supposed to swipe you 3x for 150% of your hp every whatever frequency? Is it avoidable damage?

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/engry-1

[drowsy comet]

Nalorak?

[solid sun]

I didn’t know that was one of the last bosses

[dusky canopy]

So angry

[sullen valve]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-rat-poke-scared-gif-7909389

[solid sun]

Fkn spoilers

[drowsy comet]

Oh cmon

[lofty warren]

Idk its the big bear with troll shit on it

[drowsy comet]

Ahh

[dusky canopy]

This expansion has bosses wth bro spoilers!!!

Smh my head

[solid sun]

Oh trolls and bears

Pack it up

[drowsy comet]

Nim turn off, spoilers time

[solid sun]

No point continuing this expansion

[tribal wharf]

this final boss sucks

wtf

[lusty grotto]

i finished the campaign 2 days ago, the spoiler talk isnt about just me, its about everyone that comes in here

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto ||Sylvannas burnt the world tree down||

[drowsy comet]

No more humen vs orks? Disneyfication

[lofty warren]

This

[solid sun]

Bro

[sullen valve]

@lusty grotto but in all reality, if there are any suggestions you don't like, lmk

I'm 100% down to change it all... tho some stats on the stat page my stay even if weird

[dusky canopy]

Post it twice for good measure

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-trauma-traumatize-bV7B0LGkQZlEDQmekc

[solid sun]

Delete the pics

[drowsy comet]

Oh good to know. Warned u just in case

[solid sun]

I haven’t gotten there yet

[tribal wharf]

this boss is pain in ass

hope i can kill it

[drowsy comet]

Bear dn

[lofty warren]

That narlock bear - how to avoid his burst swipe damage?

[solid sun]

Don’t

Just get deleted

[lusty grotto]

The IP thing was serious, i would need to take a look at the stuff there tbh, but i seem to remember that it already had an effective block and SB metric, but if it doesn't then i would say its important

[drowsy comet]

Rhino where r u in the story

[lusty grotto]

im sure there's some things that may come to mind, ill let you know

[solid sun]

I hit 85 last night before bed

[tribal wharf]

i hate this fight

this sucks

[solid sun]

I have not gone to ZA

[lofty warren]

I found this

[drowsy comet]

Oh okay

[solid sun]

Aight im out

[drowsy comet]

Yea get off abit, dont get spoilered

[dusky canopy]

Bro eat the stacks defensive the onslaught

[lusty grotto]

stop posting this shit, people havent done the content

[coarse bay]

Grats

[lament osprey]

Stand behind zul’jarra

[drowsy comet]

[dusky canopy]

Best spot to be!

[lament osprey]

Natural no Dr button, based

[drowsy comet]

Didnt we had this spoiler drama just 2 days ago

[tribal wharf]

this does not bode well

[sullen valve]

SB was there but recommendations depended on talents

[drowsy comet]

Have some mercy with those who like to play slow. No need to rush things

[dusky canopy]

get balls

[drowsy comet]

And dont spoil things like story, dungeons and stuff like that

[lofty warren]

Can you just always stand next to this girl so all damage taken from onslaught is reduced by 50?

[lusty grotto]

can you make talent suggestions?
one that comes to mind is this: #protection message

HR vs ITF talent pick depends on haste, and its ratings based

SB uptime should be universal

[lament osprey]

The last boss in Magisters palace dungeon is by far my most enjoyable.

[dusky canopy]

420.69 haste before ITF swap

[lusty grotto]

as the HR/ITF, ED and SC nodes should be locked picks

[sullen valve]

I could but that type of stuff is normally not recommended too much

since like it's harder to do absolutes

[tribal wharf]

that boss is HORRIBLE

[lusty grotto]

gotcha

[tribal wharf]

FUCK THAT BOSS

[sullen valve]

Also never assume locked picks

[tribal wharf]

i killed it but i hate that fight

[drowsy comet]

Wth are all these short names

[lusty grotto]

just say "hey maybe talent HR instead" without factoring in stats

[tribal wharf]

i'm probably not running that on a keystone

too easy to screw up final boss

[sullen valve]

I spent a lot of time looking for logs with bad talents

[lusty grotto]

do not consider talent picks for SB uptime though, like i mentioned

[lofty warren]

I thought based on your Haste hero talent and haste, there is always a correct talent choice between hr and itf?

[lusty grotto]

i would say it should be 87% at a bare minimum on eff uptime

[tribal wharf]

okay thats enough world of warcraft for me for this afternoon

[sullen valve]

All I know is in shadowlands, the talents mattered for that
could easily just assume 95% uptime
or 95% melee hits you have it up

[lusty grotto]

yea

[sullen valve]

whatever the logical number/metric is

[lusty grotto]

95% is still accurate

[sullen valve]

SB is a DPS increase right?

[lusty grotto]

but we can 100% easily

it is

[sullen valve]

I never do 100% since boss down time might exist

[drowsy comet]

[lusty grotto]

its effective uptime

so downtime shouldnt matter

[lofty warren]

Sb increases dps ( at least it did in tww)

[tribal wharf]

i had to take disrupting shout for that boss, or i feel like i did

[sullen valve]

harder to do effective uptime than general up time

[tribal wharf]

probably can get it with thunder clap, i already got PTSD from that fight lol

[lusty grotto]

read the hits

like we do when we review logs

[sullen valve]

since like
how do you determine a player picking their butt

[lofty warren]

For m+ you want 100% effective uptime since ur always taking damage.?

[sullen valve]

this is also shadowlands wowA brain so someone could have made a normalizer for it

[frank bobcat]

@jagged pier update: you were so right about m0s being easy, I went in with 185 ilvl, invited nothing but poopsock 230s & didnt even trigger my cheat death 🙏 🙏

[lusty grotto]

well i was gone in SL

[dusky canopy]

Oh yeah we’re Bing chillin

[lusty grotto]

until s4

but im pretty sure we read effective uptime the same way

[ivory barn]

Yeah, they aren't too bad

[lusty grotto]

i.e. by hovering over blockable hits, such as melee

[drowsy comet]

They are like 20% harder than Heroics, nothing too wild. I expected abit more from them 😄

[sullen valve]

I guess that leads me to asking, do you still hit SB while you don't have boss aggro for the shield slam damage

also what acronym do y'all use for shield slam

[lusty grotto]

SS

[sullen valve]

the obvious one is very sus

[daring marlin]

Common Jakey W

[lusty grotto]

it depends on haste

optimally you do want to keep it up

but

not if it results in you going into the swap without charges

first season it is a bit harder to keep up since haste numbers are so low

so you are forced to play it safe and keep one in the pocket

the deeper into the exp we go, the more haste we get, and we're able to keep it up throughout, regardless of if we are actively tanking or not

[lofty warren]

If enemy is about to die and you have sb buff going then its more dps to use the dps ability compared to casting sb again yo extend duration after enemy deatf

[sullen valve]

wait

it's all coming back to me
I actually had two stats for shield block

[drowsy comet]

ugh its so late, nighty yall

[sullen valve]

1 for getting hit
1 for offensive

[lusty grotto]

i see

[sullen valve]

I think they might have been remerged
to like "if something wasn't offensive or defensive, you're shit"

[glad magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/bingchilling-gif-1158789153226372051

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/emmy-amy-poehler-peace-out-peace-sign-peace-gif-15541895

[sullen valve]

I can't look rn since on mobile at work Lmao

but don't worry
imma do my best to cook

I just don't know prot
but I like bald man so I learn for him

[lusty grotto]

yeah make sure you cross reference with mwahi

[bold girder]

I’m scared to try Prot. But I want to tank so bad but I’m scared

[sullen valve]

Mwahi is going to be the director of this
I'm just his little submissive guy

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

awesome

[tribal wharf]

is there more bosses in dungeons i HAVE to do the boss 100% right like that

mostly if its in the key rotation, so magisters terrace i didnt have any trouble with, wiped one time to caverns but learning was done

and then shit fest lvale dungeon final boss

turned to hell

[undone beacon]

Work is driving me crazy I just wanna play with the funny elves and trolls and elftrolls and instead I have to deal with the messiest network architecture I've ever seen

[lofty warren]

@nimchomp Mwahi said he is aware about the varying haste rating/talent decision thing fyi

[lusty grotto]

fear is just a warning sign from the brain so that youre alert in case of danger, youre not in any physical danger when you play WoW, its only a game

just send it

[sullen valve]

guys what if I add a warning if you're not a gnome?

[lusty grotto]

take advantage that people are relatively new to the expansion and will make as many mistakes as you - and mistakes are the best teachers

[dusky canopy]

LOL

Do it

[lusty grotto]

based

[tribal wharf]

dont allow your self to lose aura as tank

thats the key

[sullen valve]

don't have inf aura

[tribal wharf]

its an easy job to feel REALLY stupid

when you dont do what you have to do

on par with healer letting someone die

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/livasmol-loading-cat-smol-gif-6810651202878211592

[tribal wharf]

my poor group i was letting them get melee by lashers

cuz i wasnt understanding have to pile them and puke on them

or they just come back

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-funny-cute-awesome-gif-20320653

[tribal wharf]

by the time i realized, well, i didnt fully

cuz the last wave of adds still chased ppl

but i hit something to aggro, i hate that boss os much

im doing the logged out, due to shame

4 or 5 wipes on him

[lofty warren]

The new everbloom dungeon sucks and I dislike i5

[sharp gale]

I don’t like it too, + the last boss makes me remember the bug with rend and thunderclap range talent

The adds spawning in tc range but they don’t get rend

[tribal wharf]

xbox 720 was shown today boys

[sullen valve]

6 7 wipes

[glad magnet]

Xbox is fake

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[frank bobcat]

Am I crazy or is the last boss of murder row totally overtuned with how much health the imps have & how many spawn 💀 💀 insane aoe shout interrupt value for the first set but from there its nuts

[sharp gale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-67-scp-67-funyuns-funny-gif-75413186200073602

[dusky canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/870682754705150003/1396636223233200249/attachment.gif

[sharp gale]

Not the tongue emote

Blizzard, pls give us emotes

And forced voice chat

[glad magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-idiot-things-kittens-kitties-gif-27679883

[dusky canopy]

Oh dude forced voice chat for dungeons groups sounds amazing 🤣

[glad magnet]

Yeah so good

Make sure it’s open mic too

[sharp gale]

No need for open mic, muted ppl will open it after I trashtalk them for 20 min,

[dusky canopy]

Happy gets it

[lusty grotto]

that sounds amazing

[daring marlin]

hah

[dusky canopy]

Allow self mute but volume is hard locked to master slider

[daring marlin]

Not much longer I hope??

[lofty warren]

All the new dungeons gonna get nerfs for months bc of overtuning

[lusty grotto]

how are they overtuned

we're just not geared

[daring marlin]

I'd just laugh at you cuz fr*nch

[sharp gale]

My thinking is : just like cs, it is baseline open and you have to turn it off yourself, not like current voice chat in wow, where it is off and you have to turn it on yourself

[dusky canopy]

Boys save a plate character for Saturday/sunday

We plate stack tour

I got 16 M0s to grind

[pearl glacier]

They should do proximity chat like arc raiders. The content that would come from war mode and what not would be gold.

[dusky canopy]

The little gnomes running and screaming would go hard 🤣

[daring marlin]

Proximity chat is hilarious

[lusty grotto]

prox chat is the best

[lofty warren]

Murder row sucks. They can probably just delete that dungeon all together

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-funny-cute-awesome-gif-20320653

[pearl glacier]

That is definitely the worst dungeon

[lusty grotto]

dunno, it feels fine to me

[undone beacon]

Murder Row is prob my least favorite out of the pack but I don't hate it by any means

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-cats-dqW

[pearl glacier]

It reminds me of silver moon.. and the dumb RP event. I can’t imagine doing that for an entire expansion.

[undone beacon]

It'll be less of an issue on M+ when the goal isnt to skip as much as possible, but the paths to the 3rd/4th boss are butt-pull city

[pearl glacier]

It’s not the worst dungeon they ever done, that is true. It’s mid and annoying.

[undone beacon]

Last boss and the stupid infernal have me stressin

[pearl glacier]

And like bear said… all these groups that wanna go fast ALWAYS wipe on those later pulls.

(Pug groups with no respect for it yet, anyway)

[lusty grotto]

its day 3

how do you think people learn

they learn by eating dirt

and tanks that dont LoS pull the last section

🙂

[undone beacon]

I just skip the last golem for now by jumping down into the lower courtyard

[lusty grotto]

or that dont use disrupting, or that dont use javelineer, or that dont use pummel

[undone beacon]

Javelineer my beloved

[sullen valve]

Day 3 for the POORS

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/berserker-gif-26510158

[lusty grotto]

no, its day 3 because the 90 dollar burners didnt have m0

[sullen valve]

I got mine for free
idk this 90 dollar shit

[undone beacon]

I like Magister's Terrace other than it feeling cramped

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

big if true

[ionic fern]

Rich boi.

I only got one char at 90 ATM.

[lofty warren]

Masostrate terrace so much visually clutter from all the purple shit imo

[tribal wharf]

would i be correct in assuming that nexus point will be harder than spire for 0

[sharp gale]

Just take trashs easy in nexus point, the bosses didn’t seem that bad (my comrades knew how to move on the junction of two lines when blue arrow on head tho)

[undone beacon]

ngl I didnt understand the mirror images mechanic on last boss until last night, felt like a real goober

[sharp gale]

I mass taunted them

We insta died

[round pendant]

You're not a goober you're clever and cool

😔

[daring marlin]

hah goober

[toxic pewter]

XD

[tribal wharf]

wind runner spire will be WAY easier for me lol

bunch of recycled shadow lands bosses really

sohuld be easy

[ivory barn]

Necrotic Wake boi is fun

[tribal wharf]

SURELY

there will be no wipes or drama

[torn gulch]

Heroic and Mythic 0 Dungeons- (Mythic dungeons move to a daily reset.)
actually braindead from Blizzard

[lusty grotto]

wym

that happened in TWW too

[autumn heron]

Wait what?

[lusty grotto]

on s1 start

dracz

[torn gulch]

yes and it sucked

[lusty grotto]

why did it suck

[autumn heron]

Ooooooh....

[lusty grotto]

it makes 0 difference lol

its m0

let people run their shit

[torn gulch]

it had reduced rewards not champion gear in TWW

[autumn heron]

Who cares about m0 after season start anyways its just a nhc at that poimt

[lusty grotto]

yes.... youre supposed to do keys for champ

i dont see the big negative

it was a good move

back then, and it is a good move now

[torn gulch]

ha? who is even farming champion gear from keys you're farming hero track pieces from there

[lusty grotto]

so why do you care for m0s?

you just said champ gear

so thats what i was responding to

[lament zealot]

Am I wrong to think our apex talent buffs Thane way more than Colossus? Seems kind of shit for people that don't like Thane

[lusty grotto]

not by much

but youre not wrong

you still press TC as colossus for rage

[coarse bay]

People in the lower key/normal raid range

There’s a lot of different people that play, varying skill levels and goals

[mighty valley]

no only rwf raiders play this game

[lament zealot]

Yeah just not nearly as much. You gain basically nothing from the added dmg to tclap.

[grim pilot]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G_Efyg_W4AAFy9L.gif

[lusty grotto]

sim both and youll see the overall dps is not massive

phalanx is due tuning anyway

when they buff it, and see how it offsets colossus even more, they'll buff colossus as a result or rework it

also the added damage to tclap is not the point

its the added damage to SS

overall dps difference, that is

[robust matrix]

@wicked pollen giovanni six seven what can i take off my gigantic cdm to not track

[mighty valley]

yeah i guess it's the new unstoppable force being thane only that would make a difference if phalanx was strong

[wicked pollen]

execute

revenge

[lusty grotto]

take it to DMs

unless you want us to also chime in

[wicked pollen]

nim i hate prot atm

i have 0 haste

i feel useless

[lusty grotto]

happens to all of us

and i totally feel you

[wicked pollen]

and i have to play slam extends instead of iftk

so i dont flop

[torn gulch]

did you guys received any restored keys or key fragments from content this reset?

[wicked pollen]

gg

[robust matrix]

sure

[lusty grotto]

yeah all of us do

[robust matrix]

i havent played pwar since mop remix lul

[toxic pewter]

for delves? no i dont think they are in yet prob when season starts

[robust matrix]

have to tank for my m0s

[wicked pollen]

noob

[lusty grotto]

remove IP

[wicked pollen]

@arctic cairn why you no tnak

[torn gulch]

then that's different than TWW start

[lusty grotto]

and execute

[robust matrix]

diff group

[wicked pollen]

gg

[lusty grotto]

the rest can stay

[robust matrix]

but also he doesnt have 3 tanks

[wicked pollen]

i think you dont need to track revenge because you can just look at your rage bar

and whether or not its free doesnt matter

[mighty valley]

ip, revenge, and execute have no cd but it's up to you if it's helpful for them to dim out when you have no rage

[lusty grotto]

true

[wicked pollen]

imo

[lusty grotto]

yeah i agree

[wicked pollen]

everything else is just kinda suck it up

its required

[sleek sun]

Not prot related but this chat is active, I'm still leveling so I don't know the answer to this and all the calendars say Mythic 0 starts on the 17th, so what's the hardest dungeons we can do currently?

[robust matrix]

anything else i need

[mighty valley]

i guess you'd want execute on there if it becomes good again and you run SD

[wicked pollen]

i think thats everything fatman

[lusty grotto]

nah that looks good

[wicked pollen]

fatcocoa smh

[robust matrix]

is panda good for warrior

should i go back to it

[wicked pollen]

no man

[lusty grotto]

hes doing m0s harrow, so not really SD land

[robust matrix]

its fatcocoa cause it used to be a panda

[wicked pollen]

why are you a cow

[robust matrix]

tauren cool

use 2x totem beat people tf up

[burnt egret]

What's the haste breakpoint we need for 100% shield block uptime? 21%?

[lusty grotto]

breakpoints are never percent based

[burnt egret]

Ya sorry, rating. It somewhat translates to % but thanks!!

[lusty grotto]

yes but the distinction is important since any added percent buff can be giving you different results, and those buffs do not DR

rating does DR though

[burnt egret]

Yes true. Great point. Thank you for this reference!

[lusty grotto]

no problem

[tribal wharf]

gotta watch that boss guide for nexus point again

only boss i know for sure is laser

i wonder if you can just disrupting the adds on final boss

thats the part i think confused me the most

going to try it now

[sharp gale]

Dont

#protection message

[ebon geyser]

Ok i definitely need to learn to pull as a warr

I am going in like if im a bear

[mighty valley]

yeah we don't have a cheater button

[ebon geyser]

How do you guys go about a big pull?

Like what you all use? Can someone walk me thru one

[sharp gale]

It really depends on the pack positions / what are in those packs, you basically end your gathering on the least movable mob (99% a caster or big hp boy)

[ebon geyser]

So I was doing magister

Normal since im leveling but just wanted to get a feel

[sharp gale]

But usually I charge Shield slam shield block clap -> leap to second pack, clap or revenge heroic throw the third, I move back jumping toward the first pack and slowly go out of the triangle (3 packs moving toward you forms a triangle)

[ebon geyser]

I tried something similar, I rush SW,sb,clap

And start taging

Not gonna lie I enjoy it really much and leveling felt like a breath

Also what about casters how we deal with those

[sharp gale]

I try to charge kick a caster if he is not in the middle of the first pack, before I leap, I end my gathering on the least movable (if pack 2 has 2 casters, I end on pack 2)

[lusty grotto]

or just use javelineer

or disrupting

or pummel

or LoS like we do every time

[mighty valley]

yeah it kinda depends on the type of caster, whether there's a good los spot, whether you can just pull everything to the caster... etc

[ebon geyser]

When you have a devourer in your group nim some of thaf is not possible lol

[mighty valley]

but we've got a kick and two silences now

well, a silence and an aoe interrupt

[lusty grotto]

yes it is

[ebon geyser]

Just let them die lol

[mighty valley]

i don't know shit about devourers yet

haven't played with one

[lusty grotto]

why

[ebon geyser]

Im not liking them in groups

[tribal wharf]

nexus point is pretty easy

[sharp gale]

If someone body pull you just charge taunt or clap whatever they pulled

[ebon geyser]

Pulling random stuff

[lusty grotto]

so what

[tribal wharf]

but, i have to be faster at the final boss minigame

at least i know what to look for

[lusty grotto]

just tank it, youre the tank

[ebon geyser]

That's why im saying what you guys do on packs because I was definitely not ready

[sharp gale]

You are stronger than me I take so much time

[mighty valley]

you just gotta try and tap everything, that's all

[ebon geyser]

But im 95% into 89 so im super hyped

[lusty grotto]

obligatory: ** leap resets Taunt cd **

[sharp gale]

Bombaclat tech

[mighty valley]

gathering gets a little easier in keys when people know what pull you're gonna do, but obviously the price of fuckups goes way way up

man i miss avatar granting rage more than i expected

[ebon geyser]

I am in a chill m+ discord where raging is not allowed so

[tribal wharf]

TMNT has really been partnering up with a ton of companies recently

[mighty valley]

i want to tc first so i get a phalanx proc to tap another pack... but if you don't ss first, you don't have sb rage

[sharp gale]

But on bodypull you really need to react fast, and complain after the dungeon is done and everyone left

[mighty valley]

i guess i'll just have to get less stubborn and maybe use sc early

[tribal wharf]

there was fortnite, and mtg, and now theres yet some other thing

world of tanks, im surprised that franchise is still going strong

[lusty grotto]

or or... or... dont complain cause its a normal and people are allowed to make mistakes

[mighty valley]

can i complain about complainers

[sharp gale]

That’s why I said, when everyone left

[tribal wharf]

no time to complain

time ticking on us always

[toxic pewter]

[solid sun]

We really can give grace to mistakes

It isn’t like you’re losing a paycheck if something extra gets pulled

[tribal wharf]

gotta see the big picture, come back when your a little mmm richer, don't let a mob pass you by, just deal dmg and don't ask why

[brisk ermine]

What do we do in aoe when we get never ending shield slam procs? do we ignore thunder blast charges and just keep slamming while spending on IP til they stop?

[lusty grotto]

dont cap TB

send it

TB is higher prio

[brisk ermine]

thanks gotcha

[frank bobcat]

Not related to prot but does anyone know where I can find a list of stuff to do this week before reset?

Specifically gear related stuff

[little flax]

Zorthas has a good video out

Regarding stuff to do

[sullen valve]

Should I put a true rage generation breakdown in wowA?

[ivory barn]

is it a bug that all this M0 gear is veteran track?

[tribal wharf]

only hard part of that dungeon arena is deathskip to some portal :S

[dusky canopy]

no that is intended for questing week

[tribal wharf]

its ilvl 240 purple

1 / whatever for veteran

cuz you want ideally whatevers past those, something else its called and then myth

[ivory barn]

Campion/Hero/Myth?

[tribal wharf]

i forget, i've been out of the loop for a year

[mighty valley]

there’s no repeatable source of better gear til the season starts

[tribal wharf]

turns out you can put cata shield spike on

[daring marlin]

prolly does 0 damage

[dusky canopy]

or heals the attacker

[mighty valley]

gonna be crazy when yogi claims mythic world first with elementium spike damage

[lusty grotto]

it does a whole 3 dmg

[tribal wharf]

very tiny dps

but its a number

[tribal wharf]

not like i can put anything else on shield

[undone beacon]

Better than Tough as Nails

[solid sun]

Tough as Spikes

[tribal wharf]

tought as pebbles

[lusty grotto]

does anyone know what frame is the prey icon on? fucking thing is making me not be able to mouselook

[tribal wharf]

i gotta look up some boss guides for den and murder

might as well get achievements for it

run those tomorrow level up something

[ebon geyser]

ALTERNATE POWEER I BELIEVE IN ELVUI

sorry caps

[lusty grotto]

yeah its elvui

but its called PowerBarWidget

[ebon geyser]

yay 90 , had a ton of fun not gonna lie

[round pendant]

someone gimme the tank splat gifs

like the dh one

big pull

[lament osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/yamcha-yamcha-death-pose-yamcha-dead-yamcha-on-the-ground-yamcha-sleeping-gif-15816799

[round pendant]

@lusty grotto help

where "big pull" gif

[mighty valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1289315888293744642/rlp.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1356303173282955474/big2.gif

[round pendant]

that one

lol

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181574946321870999/1474155743987892366/bahahaha-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[ebon geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/black-black-dude-laugh-the-clown-dr-reasons-gif-3745936416528146845

[sullen valve]

Hello, I am against asking for a single log
I found one

[sharp gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1422251192133750956/ezr.gif

[smoky plinth]

Hey lads. Just wanted some others input.

Do the mobs at the beginning of row hit like freight trains to anyone else?

[lament osprey]

Just dots and bleeds. Dodge frontal.

[smoky plinth]

Gotcha, was dodging the frontal, but felt like I was paper on those few pulls. Every other pull in the tour felt totally fine. Skill issue i guess

[lament osprey]

No, just dots and bleeds hurt us the most as prot. Nimchip can confirm tomorrow

[sullen valve]

Is nimchip still awake?

[round pendant]

😔 you ignored my dms

my wife hates me

[undone beacon]

ack im sorry wifey i got caught up in questing with the guildies smh

the public callout too

[round pendant]

name and shame

[drowsy comet]

Morning

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1175211241925525604.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[sullen valve]

are the ways to actively reduce damage taken as a prot warriors basically
Physical only -> shield block
Magic only -> spell reflect
Physical and magic -> Ignore Pain, Last Stand, Shield Wall, demo shout?

[drowsy comet]

pressing all defensives because u panic is the best

[undone beacon]

Defensive Stance as well technically. Last stand is now a heal/hp increase tied to shield wall, not a DR

Punish is also a stacking DR from the target of your shield slam

[sullen valve]

ooo

I did but also forgot they baked last stand directly into shield wall

[pallid quiver]

That's the large basis of active presses, though AM makes Shield Wall have a lower CD than it seems at first.

there's technically rally, as well, but that generally won't be the difference between a tank dying or not

A lot of these also stack with passive effects on the tree, as well, such as Punish

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rat-dance-dancing-rat-rat-dancing-dancing-gif-11682789006830360489

[drowsy comet]

Why are people stressing so much over who has a full veteran character.. man M0s will reward Champion gear when the season start smh my head

[jagged pier]

Because i must be x ilvl or i dont get invited

Thats literally why

Or when im x lvl i will being doing damage, even tho thats a skill issue

Or well class issue

Basically ppl look for any excuse to pin stuff on when instead of themselves

[drowsy comet]

M0s are basically doable at 215 ilvl without any issue, probably even less lol

[ionic fern]

I'm gonna do mine at 187

Well,I'm gonna be doing m+ at 187.

Skipping m0.

[jagged pier]

I have alts can finally do runs together

That being said my game was having issues yesterday and im unsure why

[ionic fern]

I will also have a resto shaman soon.

Been doing 12h workdays so no time to level yet

[jagged pier]

Im sat in an office today doing online training.... i could be at home doing that giving it my 100% full attention for sure 100%

[ionic fern]

Have it play in the background like TV.

[jagged pier]

Its okay i have 8 days of it so 100% training focus next week starts

[drowsy comet]

i wanna see you doing +20s on 187

[ionic fern]

Gonna get high ilvl,take rings off , easy.

[cerulean tusk]

190 gang

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-cat-dance-gif-20491618

For anyone wondering, yes, it was super doable and no issues

[jagged pier]

[drowsy comet]

B-but you need 225 in order to get in my group 🖕🏻 🖕🏻 this you get (nothing against you kitty)

[cerulean tusk]

you wish I would join your group

[drowsy comet]

no cats allowed, sowwy

[jagged pier]

U take that bad right MEOW

[drowsy comet]

Make me

[jagged pier]

[neat dune]

any1 tried Tough As Nails? i dont find myself pressing Execute often and we dont even spec into SD on MT, so im just looking for a point to spend instead of massacre.

not sure how TaN vs Deep Wounds is

[jagged pier]

U should be runni g tough as nails in dungeons

U only run executes talents as thane on st

[neat dune]

great thanks. that what i was wondering yee

wowhead guide runs BsV and... i dont rly need or want that

[jagged pier]

Yer because its tailored for m+ and stuff being harder

Theres no point making talents for hc dungeons and m0s

Cause they can be done with anything

[ionic fern]

Well,no. You don't run execute talents outside of DW on ST.

You still use tan.

At least in Sims that's the highest DPS combo. You do press execute with DW as MT but 0 execute talents.

[jagged pier]

Im taking them anyway

Fuck as nails

Do sims take into account tanking half the time on a fight?

[ionic fern]

#buffExexute

[jagged pier]

So tough as nails will be happening 100% on the sim in st making it look better

May be some fights like that in raif but not all the time

I ping @lusty grotto he can work it out

[sharp gale]

I suspect being around 50% in raid since there is another tank

[jagged pier]

Well theres somtimes 2 bosses or mob and boss etc

If there are several adds then tough as nails for sure better

But if just a single boss u tank 50% of the time

It may not be better than execute talents

[sharp gale]

Yeah I suppose a typical 1 boss fight (I don’t think there is any?), you are right but it seems so random talent for raid, as my first take

[jagged pier]

We just need a sim for 50% of the melees get effected by tough as nails, but thats a bit complicated, it may still be better as execute is trash. My gut feeling tells me its ither they same or slightly worse than all exectue talent if u take that into account

But it will all change on the 17th anyway

Unless we dont get touched

Which wouldnt suprise me

[toxic pewter]

all 3 warrior specs will be meta

[sharp gale]

If I would tank, I would sim the % of the heroic or normal tanking uptime of the boss, but it’s not that big, most ppl will pick wcl best

Bc bosses like sprocket, I would sim close to 0%

[jagged pier]

Mwahi now gunna tell us to go away

[ionic fern]

Even if TaN does 200 damage over the course of the fight it seems to be a increase.

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vLBEaN8iZ8ZY1KqYYbN2Ry

Not by much

130

[jagged pier]

Dw and masscre are that bad?

[ionic fern]

I did this sim on phone tho

And just slapped a new target with a custom APL to have melee hit timer of 15.

[jagged pier]

But why execute so bad

Bliz fix

[ionic fern]

Biiiiig execute damage.

[jagged pier]

Thats me right now irl on the ground

[ionic fern]

Doing your trainings.

[jagged pier]

It finished and i have like 20mons left of work today so now im just monging around as thats not enough time to do anything

[ionic fern]

That's relatable.

[toxic pewter]

so if i play colossus do i ever press execute even in single target or wat

I guess not?

[jagged pier]

Nope

You

[lofty warren]

wrecking throw only used for silence if talented?

[drowsy comet]

@tribal wharf https://x.com/IGN/status/2029799386725707973?s=20

IGN (@IGN)

Become the butcher in Diablo 4's Season of Slaughter, featuring the new Killstreak mechanic and a free trial of the Paladin. The new season arrives on March 11!

X · Mar 6, 2026, 6:01 AM

[solid sun]

Happy Friday!

[jagged pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838113932551258146/1418486076385001572/Sans_titre.gif

[lusty grotto]

good morning

and happy friday

[tribal wharf]

something somethqing, song is allegory for jfk assassination, oatmeal was his favorite breakfast!

[lusty grotto]

[drowsy comet]

im gonna post this every friday

[glad magnet]

I’ve done all my chores and weeklies. I can spend the weekend fishing like god intended.

[drowsy comet]

nice nice

[glad magnet]

To be clear I mean ingame. I’m not fucking going outside.

[drowsy comet]

im about to finish all sidequests, get my pwar to 90 gear him, and then before the weekly reset my brew 90. Then Im pretty much ready

[drowsy comet]

damn, i thought u meant irl

[tribal wharf]

that boss i was complaining about but isnt in the rotation

is going to drive me crazy for the picture above explains it

so the adds spawn and instantly start chasing a team member, and immediately i have to hit TC, SC or aoe taunt

get them piled up, IN FRONT OF the boss, and make sure his puke hits them all

and then he does this like 3 or 4 times on mythic zero, could be as many as 10 times on a +10 tyranical

that fight is going to drive me insane

[sharp gale]

Very beautiful Paint

I basically position myself in the middle when they pop, so clap hits the most targets, then I go back so they stack up, and when they die I move the boss back so the dps can target the beam without being in the puddle they pop

And around the circle ⭕️

[tribal wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qRnjcaA7sZw pov first few pulls i was attempting this boss

oh god, its MY job

[sharp gale]

Tbf when I did it first I didn’t move the boss at all so the beam would kill all the adds since they were under him, but puddle

[solid sun]

Halfway through 85

This is the first expansion where I’ve been so limited on playtime like this

[dusky canopy]

Hey my rat just hit 85 last night too!

One zone to go, batland 😁

[tribal wharf]

whats the deal with the adds on the final boss for murder row, you have to get them a bit grouped up on spawn i know that

but thre is like a bazillion adds that spawn in then

[daring marlin]

ROFL

[tribal wharf]

i think one is an elite and you just focus him?

[daring marlin]

lmao I'm almost 88 on my lock

Gonna cap him off tonight after I get back from the cinema