protection

[torn gulch]

Yikes

[undone beacon]

Yikes

[lusty grotto]

super yikes

[ashen shale]

why tf is warrior still not button debloated, I thought midnight would remove stuff now Im sitting at 3 bars full of stuff (I know its depends on situations what to press but wtf)

[lusty grotto]

they removed LS as a button and troar

so that kinda counts

[ashen shale]

still fully bloated

[lusty grotto]

we never were the tank with most buttons

[ashen shale]

I suppose its monk?

[lusty grotto]

sure

[ashen shale]

I play druid, warrior, dk and pala but never tried monk

[coarse bay]

I dont think monk is really bloated anymore

[lusty grotto]

yeah its kinda tied with the rest rn tbh

[coarse bay]

As simple as all the other tanks now

[lusty grotto]

vdh does have the least buttons now though

[ashen shale]

it feels stupid compared to paladin, dh, druid and dk tank..cant say anything about monk

[lusty grotto]

i suppose so, but we're used to it

[ashen shale]

midnight removed 2 buttons but gave us enough talent points to make up for the 2 that are gone

[lusty grotto]

warrior? nah

unless you count wrecking blow i guess, but that was already bound on my end since forever

[ashen shale]

I count wrecking throw thats maybe on me then

[lusty grotto]

1 to 5, r, f, c, x, z, q, e, g, r, v
shift +
ctrl +
fits anything any class has

[daring marlin]

100%

[ashen shale]

ye thats correct but I think I made a mistake by playing dk and paladin for a while thats why Im feelin butthurt about warrior...

[coarse bay]

Idk like what buttons do you want pruned out

Any bloat would be movement and utility but thatd suck to lose

I guess delete execute

[ashen shale]

lets remove ignore pain and make it kind of a passive and delete execute from prot

[lusty grotto]

that wouldnt work

it would fuck Anger Management and Outburst

[daring marlin]

guess bro doesn't have any of the paladin utility buttons bound

[coarse bay]

I think pally HoW pruning is weird af, and dk still feels clunky even with removing those awful buttons

[daring marlin]

no bop, cleanse, freedom, sac, etc

[lusty grotto]

the only way removing IP wouldnt fuck AM or VO, is if they made a different existing rage spender off-gcd

i dont think its a good move

[ashen shale]

I have them bound but its still less bloat

[lusty grotto]

but hey an offgcd revenge would go hard

[daring marlin]

I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about

truly

[coarse bay]

I mean i can check how many buttons my tanks have and get back to you

I dont think there’s much diff between all the tanks

[undone beacon]

Also don’t run spear that removes a button

Take rend, slam, whirlwind, hamstring off your bars

[ashen shale]

already off the bars :c

[ashen shale]

but spear is great

[lusty grotto]

not really

the other 3 are better

you only run spear for the movement speed while leveling

[undone beacon]

It’s really not great yeah

[daring marlin]

you don't even need ravager on your bar anymore as it appears you take whirling blade now

I'm so confused

someone help

[ashen shale]

we are talking about champion spear right?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[undone beacon]

Correct

[lusty grotto]

we are

[daring marlin]

the thing nobody should be taking as it's not good

[lusty grotto]

guilford wyd

[ashen shale]

I just liked the chaining to pull stuff together

[lusty grotto]

wanna help us in this tazavesh run?

[lusty grotto]

its not useful

its not a grip

[daring marlin]

I'm goofing around prolly gonna hit max level on my pally then level my dk idk

[lusty grotto]

unless mobs jump away, it does nothing

and the other 3 capstones are miles ahead better

[daring marlin]

I don't think I'd be very useful as I don't remember much about taz lmao

[lusty grotto]

we can explain

[solid sun]

Daughter wanted to recreate Elsa in wow. Then became immediately disinterested as soon as character creation was over lol

[coarse bay]

@undone beacon i havent done druid yet, is there thrashing now?

[undone beacon]

We’re always thrashing bb

[chilly brook]

SMH doesn’t even ask me

[lusty grotto]

you wanna go ?

[chilly brook]

Do I need to be 80 still?

Also is it rn?

[lusty grotto]

yes

80 and geared or lvl 90 ig

and dps

[chilly brook]

I’m finishing up cooking dinner 🙁

[lusty grotto]

ok well i can let you know if i havent gotten a reply by then hehe

[chilly brook]

Yeah if I’m done I’ll help 🙂

[jagged gust]

I have a good 20 level 1 Taurens for much the same reason lol

[solid sun]

lol

[lusty grotto]

ok nvm we got our 5th

[coarse bay]

@ashen shale so this is my quick attempt at just class abilities i have bound, pally has 1 more because my sac is clickcast

[ashen shale]

Thanks for letting me know

[solid sun]

I feel like this expansion has been cheating so far

Because so far the entire time I’ve just been revisiting areas that I remember fondly so the nostalgia is peaking

[undone beacon]

If they never make a new zone again and just revamp old zones like this I’d be happy

[tribal wharf]

today is a good day

[toxic pewter]

Grats

[glad magnet]

the reel game mode

[tribal wharf]

true actually

this man has a brain

jaina in fork knife when

lvl 100 or whatever lich king

[coarse bay]

i just realized i meant swipe

is swipe even a thing

[tribal wharf]

i hate whatever dungeon that is i was just running

hasa trio boss

i quit

[coarse bay]

some of the dungeons seem like theyll be painful in m+

[tribal wharf]

i over pulled it, fine, and then they pulled it to the respawn

so i left the group

sure, pull all the monsters to where we respawn at

that are killing us

great

[solid sun]

They did it so goodly

[undone beacon]

Swipe is filler for DotC instead of Moonfire because it can proc gore

[bleak breach]

Is blood mallet still a thing?

Just don’t see anything on it

[coarse bay]

idk but if youre talking about for midnight, not something to stress yet

i think a lot of specs are still working on apl and sims

[mighty valley]

bloodmallet charts only have so much utility anyway

[bleak breach]

Was just curious as I couldn’t see anything at all about it

[glad magnet]

blood mallet basically just takes the profiles on simulationcraft and runs them through their own sims for trinkets and shit, i believe, so without all the classes having profiles uploaded and updated on simcraft it wont really be there or do anything, then again, mostly useless cause just sim whats in your bags or a top gear to compare loot on your own character

[devout star]

What abilities were removed with midnight?

[glad magnet]

thunderous yelp

[cinder marsh]

yo ik this has nothing to do with prot war but i was seeing if anyone knows how to get rid of this highlighter color chat cause its driving me insane

[glad magnet]

blizz strikes again

is that default chat?

[cinder marsh]

yes

no addons are enabled

[ivory barn]

does that happen when you hover over anything else?

[cinder marsh]

you know what idk why i didnt do this already but i just reset the chat to default lol, srry for the time wasted

[bleak breach]

Ahh yep, makes sense.

I had it wrong, I though it was just sims based off of ‘top’ gear for whichever specs

[undone beacon]

Thunderous Roar and Last Stand

[ivory barn]

If I wanted a 2H for fury and a 1H/Shield for prot I'd need 2 blacksmiths?

[undone beacon]

If you want to do it all asap then yes

[glad magnet]

And a lot of crests or whatever we use

[solid sun]

I was gonna say that but that’s a total of 4 crests and depending on how fast you acquire a crest it might flow with how you’ve put prof points in?

But someone smarter than me should fact check that because I don’t trust myself

[ivory barn]

I haven't put any in

[glad magnet]

Or sparks or something

[solid sun]

Sorry sparks

Not crests

[glad magnet]

Multi class weapon crafting kinda rough early

[undone beacon]

You can eventually level all the trees but you won’t be able to craft prot AND fury weapons together for a while because of spark limits for the crafts themselves

[torn gulch]

if you craft all of this you re already talking about 4 sparks which means 8 weeks

[undone beacon]

Shield/1hander is 2 sparks each and each 2hander is 4 sparks under the new system

[torn gulch]

so 8 sparks as we don't have half spark anymore

[solid sun]

Woah woah woah

Double the amount of sparks?

[torn gulch]

still 8 weeks

[solid sun]

Oh

[torn gulch]

no we don't have half spark anymore

[undone beacon]

Same amount of time, they got rid of the splintered spark nonsense

[torn gulch]

you get a spark a week

[solid sun]

Gotcha

[torn gulch]

but it cost double

[undone beacon]

So instead of half a spark a week you get a spark a week yeah

[solid sun]

I was concerned

[torn gulch]

same timescale related to the old system

[solid sun]

So that’s 8 weeks of farming prof points

Including however many you discover through treasures and whatever else

Speaking of, handinotes still available?

[torn gulch]

yes i use it

[tribal wharf]

den is a good dungeon

[coarse bay]

youre the only person ive heard say that

everyone ik hates it

[torn gulch]

that wind stuff will be interesting in m+ next season

[coarse bay]

is den in s1?

[torn gulch]

by next i means s2

[coarse bay]

i havent looked at the rotation

[lusty grotto]

yes its still a thing

also it depends if they have rerun the sims

after mwahi and me updated the APL

[undone beacon]

Den of Nalorakk? I actually think it’s kinda neat. Gives me Brackenhide vibes and tbh bracken was a great M+

[bleak breach]

Yeah same

[lusty grotto]

which reminds me the AOE one still needs some tweaks

also btw Spore is simbait

enchant

[undone beacon]

Everyone said bracken was gonna be hell in M+ but it turned out to be a real solid dungeon, so we’ll see

[torn gulch]

first part of den is very similar to brackenhide

same structure

[undone beacon]

The last hallway is going to be a key bricker for sure I see it already

But I enjoy it thus far

Tbh I’ve enjoyed all the dungeon designs so far, other than maybe MT feeling a bit claustrophobic

[torn gulch]

you can compact pulls behind some corners in that hallway

space is kinda tight if you pull 2 bears

but it's manageable

the problem is in the wind part where you have to hide behind some small stones and you get huge aoe from pulls at the same time

that will be nasty in big keys if it stays like that

[undone beacon]

Don’t say too much now

Gotta let the non EA’ers enjoy the first time experience

[torn gulch]

and magister camera reminds me of tol dagor

[undone beacon]

[ivory barn]

Guesss I'll make my Own 2H and have someone craft me a shield

[glad magnet]

fuck no, the poors dont get to experiece something fresh, we need them to fully understand this isn't early access, this is access and they're getting late access, a fully used and discarded entery level experience

[solid sun]

You won't be able to do them at the same time, so you might wait to see what your crafting looks like by the time you get to your prot set

[lusty grotto]

how about

fuck you

also im most def not poor i just dont support the practice

and i stick to my guns

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-t-dance-gif-18978108

literally nim

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/money-crying-3

[ivory barn]

Nimchip would you craft your own 2h or shield and have sone else craft teh other

[lusty grotto]

if im dpsing in raid i craft 2h

and i did during TWW and halfway through DF

but sure you can only spec so far early weeks

[ivory barn]

I get that, was trying to figure out what to do

[lusty grotto]

if youre going for shield, go shield

because weapon crafters will be more

well thats considering prot pallies and FDKs (this is kind of up in arms cause they used 2h in Manaforge) are looking for them

[solid sun]

Well it's going to take you 4 weeks to obtain the necessary sparks to craft your 2h

[lusty grotto]

and/or rogues, dh, etc

[solid sun]

Or is it 2 weeks?

[lusty grotto]

yes, thats always the case Rhino

its 2 sparks

[solid sun]

It's double the number of sparks

but the same amount of time

[lusty grotto]

right

[toxic pewter]

@tribal wharf i am a lumber man i jsut chopped down a tree.. Iim getting itno the decor bizness!

[solid sun]

Anyways what I'm trying to say is you need to consider how far your prof points will be by the time you go to craft your own 1h or shield

if you do a 2h first

[ivory barn]

yeah, I'll just craft my 2H first

[solid sun]

You won't have enough sparks to craft your own 2h and have someone craft you a shield/1h simultaneously

[lusty grotto]

time is not a factor

[solid sun]

So since you gotta wait on the prot stuff, you might just look to see how your BS is looking. Maybe you can still craft your own stuff

[ivory barn]

I should have enough by first raid to craft that 2H tho

[lusty grotto]

a 2h, equipped as arms, relogging, makes any upgrade in hero track shield + 1h free

unless they removed that

but also it only applies to 2h, if you have both 1h and shield

[ivory barn]

my 2 2hders are capped ilvl rn

[lusty grotto]

that means nothing

[solid sun]

Your capped ilvl rn doesn't mean anything

[glad magnet]

ive already used GPT to vibe code an addon that checks the date you earned Echoes of Midnight achievement and auto declines anyone that didn't get it during early access so no worries for me

[solid sun]

nim is too fast

[lusty grotto]

good

[ivory barn]

well I meant, I upgraded one, and the other just took gold

[solid sun]

Larian is going to tell you to reroll your character

[coarse bay]

I hope larian tells me to stop playing

[glad magnet]

jokes aside, i do think how they do it kinda sucks for the community, but is somewhat good for not nuking servers on release, but also a shit practice thats ultimately bad, but i mean, im a simp and i always buy the fancy pack

[lusty grotto]

well youre not alone

literally 99% of the regulars here bought it

[coarse bay]

while server condition might be a by-product, i dont think they care about that

[lusty grotto]

im probably the only one that didn't out of protest

[coarse bay]

its all $

[lusty grotto]

also during TWW

but anyway thanks for the final beta testing guys

[glad magnet]

been surprisingly good, a chill beta test

im almost impressed they managed to not completely brick the entire thing

[lusty grotto]

that only means good thigns

[near salmon]

Nimchip you are not alone

[lusty grotto]

🤝

[ivory barn]

I wonder if I can still run this

[lusty grotto]

nope

youre gonna get 1 shot

as a lvl 90

[torn gulch]

can you even enter if you re not level 80?

[lusty grotto]

you can

[dusky canopy]

did you test that at level 90?

[lusty grotto]

you just wont do any damage

we tested at key level 10

[glad magnet]

test it on a 2, do we get 90 champ track kek

[lusty grotto]

keystone scaling is in place so it applies it to lvl 90s, while 80s just flatten them in dmg and surv

so what the rdruid was telling me last night was correct

[ivory barn]

makes sense actually

[lusty grotto]

also

the scaling does not apply to HM Taz runs

we beat it, thanks to Cam and 2 other friends

big lvl 90 dps in there

but yeah that's about it, and raids i suppose

just don't do TWW keys

[bleak breach]

What you protesting about Nim

[lusty grotto]

early access for 90 dollars

[bleak breach]

Hmmm yes, I see.

[near salmon]

early access is toxic business practice

[jagged gust]

i still say its a net positive if you're a token enjoyer

[lusty grotto]

sure

[loud rune]

is it a personal preference between using whirlwind or revenge

[undone beacon]

no

[lusty grotto]

no

we dont use whirlwind

[undone beacon]

never use whirlwind

[loud rune]

is there a reason to it? i feel like pulling together feels easier with whirlwind

[lusty grotto]

we have very little talents that affect whirlwind

[undone beacon]

Whirlwind does less damage and has no active hooks into our rotation

[lusty grotto]

you may feel its easier now, but when you do relevant content and have people fulling threat just by looking at mobs you hit with it then you'll probably understand

[ivory barn]

umm.... 1 weapon is 4 sparks now

[lusty grotto]

use Tclap

and/or Revenge

[undone beacon]

2-handers are yes

we explained earlier to rhino

[loud rune]

got it

[undone beacon]

sparks arent "fractured" anymore, you get 1 a week

[ivory barn]

thats a lot of fucking mats

[lusty grotto]

like rhino said, its the same amount of time as the 2 sparks (4 fractured ones) in TWW

and DF

[loud rune]

and i just found out that shield block spell description says "blocks all melee attacks" but in reality only blocks frontal attacks, if we take it as 360°, are we speaking of 180° being covered or is there no exact data

[lusty grotto]

the only thing that changed is that you dont combine fractured sparks because valorstones/flightstones dont exist anymore

[lusty grotto]

block, dodge and parry do not work 360 degrees, only frontally

you need to face mobs

othewise you risk character deletion when s1 comes out

thats always been the case for us

but also for other tanks because dodge/parry also follow the same rules

[solid sun]

I feel like this came up earlier today. Are we seeing an influx of new tanks? :O

[lusty grotto]

just as lesser extent

[loud rune]

when u say frontal, more like the yellow or pink area

[lusty grotto]

pink

you can strafe back

[loud rune]

kk

ty

[undone beacon]

"footjobfan"

[loud rune]

yea i started doing that, and i stopped dying in dungeons

kiting does wonders

[undone beacon]

always do at the start of a new patch

[loud rune]

😼

[lusty grotto]

not any different than any other exp, but i gotta say we're seeing more gooners as tanks

case in point

[solid sun]

lol

[lusty grotto]

[ebon geyser]

they leave once dps start abusing them

[lusty grotto]

[solid sun]

I love that, that particular copypasta is forever associated with Ghash

[coarse bay]

[lusty grotto]

well he did ask what gooner was

[solid sun]

lol

[dusky canopy]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cummins-1

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kian-ksg-deez-nuts

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1475931202505674903/gifntext-gif.gif

[kind talon]

Do Mag’har orcs look cool as prot warrs?

[undone beacon]

Sure

[jagged gust]

Not as cool as mechagnomes

[kind talon]

That do be cool.

[coarse bay]

im about to change everything to mechagnome

10x better than goblins

@undone beacon

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/goblin-tribes-of-midgard-video-games-emote-gaming-gif-15556280

thats what i think of that

[coarse bay]

massive

grats yogi

[mighty valley]

“diddle the homebaked beans” is insane

[toxic pewter]

grats yogi

[tribal wharf]

this is what im working with now aftter a quick auction house visit

yes the trinkets are meant to be a bit troll

wont easily find purple replacements with good effects soon

220 ilvl helps too

[coarse bay]

better than me

i probably wont bother gearing until the season starts

[loud rune]

yeeeeet

[coarse bay]

big

i should go do that

i forgot theres another chapter

[loud rune]

weight off my shoulders

[tribal wharf]

slightly better gear, not really

i'll complete the main campaign tomorrow and the rest of the dungeons

try the housing

[kind talon]

I wish I could just level through dungeons instead of having to do the main quest

[undone beacon]

why would you buy the darkmoon decks when WQ trinkets are free and the same ilvl smh

[glad magnet]

we're ramping chat

[loud rune]

what is the ilevel you can be when mythics release?

is that known atp?

[solid sun]

Well you can’t play dark moon the gathering with WQ trinkets

[coarse bay]

when mythic releases? whatever ilvl champion is

[loud rune]

oh i meant like, whats rn the max ilvl you can reach before you can run mythics

[coarse bay]

oh idk maybe like 130? kinda pointless

and mythic 0 will be limited to the same ilvl u can get now, so unless youre doing it for fun mythic 0s are pointless

unless u find it fun, minmaxing before season is just useless

[solid sun]

I can’t wait to do dungeons with my friends

[coarse bay]

true

when does rhino carry me

[solid sun]

Right now

Let’s go

I think I have two dungeons unlocked

[loud rune]

aight so i can chill my balls basically now then

[coarse bay]

idk if i can rn i think im about to start leveling with someone

[coarse bay]

ya unless your guild has some crazy rwf expectations, just relax and enjoy the expac

[loud rune]

will the 5 dungeons we got now be the same in mythic? mechanic wise or are there additional mechanics in m+

[coarse bay]

there's so much time

[coarse bay]

not too sure, mythic used to add mechanics but i think now they just start to matter

[solid sun]

And affixes

[loud rune]

good thing i got time for resident evil requiem now

[coarse bay]

ya march 24th is when season starts, until then just vibe

[solid sun]

Now is a good time to complete side quests and do prof stuff

[loud rune]

i feel like most sidequests are just so underwhelming

i mean yea theyre side quests obviously but in that time i could on some roof in silvermoon and watch

[undone beacon]

theres 8 new dungeons. 4 will be in S1

Magister's Terrace
Maisara Caverns
Nexus-Point Xenas
Windrunner Spire

Algeth'ar Academy
Seat of the Triumvirate
Skyreach
Pit of Saron

Mythic has more mechanics than N/H

[tribal wharf]

NOW YOUR BONES WILL FREEZE!

[solid sun]

Iirc the side quests are often tied to achievements

[loud rune]

ty

[solid sun]

Some of them may have neat rewards like toys, pets, and decor items

I feel like sometimes they have pretty good stories too :)

[tribal wharf]

mt is good

i just run it now

[mighty valley]

i found a cute sidequest last night

the tailor in silvermoon

short n sweet

[ebon geyser]

whats bodyguard? do we take that?

[solid sun]

Yeah I just did that one!

[ebon geyser]

do we still apply rend with clap

[solid sun]

Yeah we talent rend and apply it via clap

[ebon geyser]

do i have to apply it first or clap does it automatically

[solid sun]

Clap handles it

We never actually hit rend

[lusty grotto]

we did

just not the last 3 expansions

we did in wrath/cata

[glad magnet]

arent we like 6 pasts wrath

[lusty grotto]

yes

[solid sun]

Yes, I just meant we never hit rend

Don't even need it on your bars

[lusty grotto]

goes to show how far behind they are

[ebon geyser]

those rushes, do you guys actually use them?

like shield charge, intervene,impending victory/

[lusty grotto]

did you not play DF or TWW Carlwyn?

those do different things

and yes we do use them, interevene maybe less so because its more situational than anything

SC is extremely important

[glad magnet]

5head play to drop SC for indom

[lusty grotto]

5head to being an idiot

[glad magnet]

kek

[solid sun]

I think if I were to answer about those rushes, I'd say...

We can use intervene but probably less than SC because intervene is more situational than anything but SC is very important.

[ebon geyser]

df i was druid in EU and TWW i was druid in NA then stop playing due to rl situations

[lusty grotto]

i dont think we talent intervene outside of thane

[undone beacon]

I dont even take intervene in thane

Blessed be THREE FUCKIN HAMMERS

[lusty grotto]

and only because of storm shield if anything

yeah i dont take it either

[solid sun]

Yeah I also don't take it

[ebon geyser]

u paladin lol what hammers

[undone beacon]

The choice node for Mountain Thane's intervene shield talent is that vs one that makes storm bolt split into three targets

So more stuns, but longer CD

[ebon geyser]

ty

lol

[coarse bay]

I like having intervene but i dont like giving up any talents for it

Just another movement ability most of the time

[glad magnet]

how we doing chief

[solid sun]

Pretty close!

[glad magnet]

nice!

[undone beacon]

I know fish prices will prob go up but it doesn’t seem that lucrative compared to gathering rn

One piece of cloth sells for more than most fish

[solid sun]

Well listen here fancy pants

[coarse bay]

It’s a humble life

[glad magnet]

yeah, it was more just that its something to do

[solid sun]

When you're done putting on all your nice gowns and shit maybe you'll be hungry

And then you can buy some fish!

[glad magnet]

ive got all the quests done, im 227 ilevel, done all the treasures... like, might as well fish

[undone beacon]

I can survive off eating linen cloth dammit

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/salmon-food-lets-eat-hungry-bear-gif-7670549

[undone beacon]

I… don’t like this gif lmao

I thought that was a helicopter at first

[solid sun]

Is that a person

Is that scuba steve showing how salmon swim???

[coarse bay]

Tbh when i sent it i thought it was a fish

And when i saw it closer i was just like “ok then”

We roll with it

[solid sun]

I respect it

[lusty grotto]

yes yes

like the hulk gif

we know

[coarse bay]

[solid sun]

Since we already did a pwar meetup at applebees

I think we should do waffle house next

[coarse bay]

We’ll have to do some lfr raids or something in midnight

[solid sun]

C'mon cam

I bet we can shoot for at least a little higher than lfr

Like normal!

[coarse bay]

Normal is scary

If apb promises to carry me

[glad magnet]

i dont know what i want as my second profession, any suggestions?

[ebon geyser]

LOL i have the same professions, i might do jc

[glad magnet]

i was kinda tempted for JC as well

[undone beacon]

Go crazy and do like, skinning

For the funny

[glad magnet]

exclusively skin bears

[ebon geyser]

i did that on my dh and leather lose its value so fast

[glad magnet]

all gathering does as soon as the bot army releases

[torn gulch]

what ilvl does the WQ gear have at 90 220?

[ebon geyser]

220-230

[undone beacon]

Adventurer track so, 220 1/6

[torn gulch]

damn i'll have to hold the WQ until 90 then and do something else for about one level

sojourner it is

then finishing with some delve quests

[nocturne latch]

Hey all

Im seeing the differences in talents on wowhead vs icyveins, and honestly im so confused by this as a new warrior. lol

Which one should i follow as a new tank

[coarse bay]

Any differences probably wont be major, i used the wowhead build personally

[nocturne latch]

Well, im only asking cause of certain talent choices (Storm bolt vs intervene)

[coarse bay]

Storm bolt has much more use

A lot of flex points for talent builds are for utility and can be swapped around for niche purposes or for personal preference

[nocturne latch]

They both have stormbolt

[coarse bay]

That’s usually where guides differ

[nocturne latch]

One doesnt have intervene i should say

[coarse bay]

Ya it’s just a preference in utility

[nocturne latch]

I wouldve thought second wind would be a choice, but neither takes it lol

So my theory crafting goes wooosh lmao

[mighty valley]

we're always taking damage, so second wind does not do much for us

[lusty grotto]

icy veins talents are generally better because Mwahi is a mod here

pumps is not really active here but i think hes around so idk if he can answer questions

but yeah second wind isnt that good

the builds in both sites should work, just take note if one of them does not go shield spec, we might not recommend it

[nocturne latch]

Does not go shield spec? o.o

[lusty grotto]

and also ITF vs HR

is important

[nocturne latch]

Not ready for abbreviations ; ; lmao

[lusty grotto]

youll go ITF in raid, and HR in keys until we figure out the haste required for ITF in keys

into the fray

heavy repercussions

[nocturne latch]

Ahhhhh

[mighty valley]

honestly if you're v new, just pick either talent build and learn the basics til the season actually starts, not a ton of hugely impactful choices right now

def start with HR though

[nocturne latch]

got it

[mint shadow]

Thane is recommended to start? I know there was a season where it was Col until 4pc then Thane but that wasn't clear in the guides

[undone beacon]

Thane is ahead of colossus in general, yes

Might change with the tuning on the 17th but for now it’s Thane

[mint shadow]

Thanks

[undone beacon]

Man now that I’m leveling my warr, I gotta say Phalanx just feels so whatever

Feels like they didn’t have a cohesive idea for what pwar apex should be

[mighty valley]

i haven't really looked at anyone else's apex talents

it's free aoe damage i don't think about

i'm aight with it

[ebon geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[ebon geyser]

monk is great

[undone beacon]

I mean it’s fine it just doesn’t feel like the apex of a prot warrior

[glad magnet]

with our little earth animation cone on SS and our lightnings, im starting to feel like im the missing shaman tank

[undone beacon]

Like Bear you can feel because getting your ravages to echo has a tangible and satisfying feedback piece

Shadow priest feels cool when your apparitions are casting void bolts

Survival hunter has you swiping and slashing a bunch, it feels cool

Phalanx is like, here’s a little rumble cone when you hit SS that you can barely see

It’s a thematic complaint more than anything but, what’s the point of discord if not to bitch and moan

[solid sun]

I think it's thematic

tbh

We're turbo shield users

We're like the most shieldy shield users

[mighty valley]

fair enough that it doesn't feel satisfying, i'll go play some other characters eventually and come back PISSED OFF

[solid sun]

Could they have made us turn into dragons instead?

Probs

Especially if all warriors got dragon tattoos

[ebon geyser]

only 85 but monk apex is like a brew version of divine toll

[undone beacon]

I mean we are, but what does Phalanx do to make you feel like a shield master when all it does is add some damage in a minor spell effect in front of you and buff your damage behind the scenes

[lusty grotto]

i dont think there's anything wrong with it, yes its lazy but whatever

it does need a buff though

[undone beacon]

Have you played with Phalanx, it feels so underwhelming from an effects standpoint

It feels no different than not having it

[solid sun]

I mean it's taking my shield slam and turning into a better shield slam right

[lusty grotto]

hence the buff part

[solid sun]

So I've become a better shield master

[ebon geyser]

waiting until the 17 is brutal for spec nerfs/buffs

[undone beacon]

Does taking Punish or Heavy Repercussions make you feel more like a shield master

[lusty grotto]

why is it brutal

we're doing jack shit until then anyway

[solid sun]

It def needs a damage buff and tbh idk what the effect even looks like. If it's not visually appealing that's sad panda times

[ebon geyser]

to long for buffs/nerfs

[solid sun]

I'm just saying I do think it's a thematic fit

[lusty grotto]

nah its not

its just right

[undone beacon]

I’m literally talking about the effect

[ebon geyser]

im holding on my other toons because i wanna see how bad they fk it up

[lusty grotto]

why do you need buffs to level

lol

i dont see the isuse

[ebon geyser]

because if class is garbo i dont play lol

[coarse bay]

The trick is to not care

Just ride the waves

Its blizzard

[undone beacon]

^

Rarely is a tank so bad it’s unplayable for the vast majority of people

[lusty grotto]

how is that different from not touching warriors on the previous 2 expansions?

even when we were meta (last season)

[coarse bay]

Like if you really really care about class tuning, you should already be playing every tank spec

[solid sun]

I am every tank spec

Got my infinity gauntlet on

[ebon geyser]

i have been saying i wanna do war but i get anxiety since im used to pally, like IP, SW i dont know how to use them lol like i get panicked on pulls

[lusty grotto]

i dont think phalanx has anything to do with that

nor buffs to it

[undone beacon]

Keep Shield Block up, use IP to dump rage, SW as a defensive

Phalanx tuning doesn’t matter there yeah that’s just core rotation

And the only way to overcome that anxiety is to play it

[coarse bay]

Tuning is such a nothing burger in general for the last while

Blizzard is pretty good on balance

[solid sun]

You can also hide your chat

[coarse bay]

Tuning truly only matters for the extreme levels

[lusty grotto]

since DF they have been for sure Cam

[undone beacon]

idk they kinda boofed it for some specs going into Midnight

Arms Bear

[coarse bay]

Ya rn theyve been pretty off the mark

[lusty grotto]

Arms has already been acknowledged by devs

[coarse bay]

But theyve been pretty good so i expect things to balance out

[lusty grotto]

so they are def going to buff it

[undone beacon]

Shadow AoE Shadow ST

[ebon geyser]

ill level this guy and then ill come back crying panicked lol

[mighty valley]

pash it's ok when they forget the loser specs

[lusty grotto]

just wait until when it actually matters

[coarse bay]

I dont expect them to truly fix specs, but theyll at least buff and nerf to equalize

[undone beacon]

And we’ll tell you to practice more

[ebon geyser]

IP what will be the equivalent for prot pally

[lusty grotto]

there's nothing that requires balancing right now

[solid sun]

i can't believe there wasn't a brennan mulligan biffed it gif i could find in the moment

[ivory barn]

Can we bring back 2h +shield mog at least please

[lusty grotto]

there's no equivalent to IP as prot paladin

[undone beacon]

Feral Arms Shadow Survival

[coarse bay]

None really, maybe sotr since sotr is a hp dump and ip is a rage dump but they’re fundamentally different

[mighty valley]

as i said,

[solid sun]

survival?

[undone beacon]

That’s too big

[solid sun]

Survival is pretty average

[lusty grotto]

thats also a lion

[undone beacon]

Survival is historically a loser spec after its melee rework

[solid sun]

?????????????

https://klipy.com/gifs/ummmmmm-excuse-me

[undone beacon]

It is, but I still adore it

[lusty grotto]

pash on his sandbagging arc

[ebon geyser]

OMG TY, i have been saying the same thing lol surv wa better when it was range

[undone beacon]

You can’t tell me that survival is constantly mocked

[solid sun]

It's a spec for those with great culture and class

[undone beacon]

No fuck you I love melee survival

[ivory barn]

I'll take back ranged dot survival please

[undone beacon]

Wrong

Incorrect

[lusty grotto]

that has never been a thing

[coarse bay]

Survival is historically the worst performer in mythic raid since wod

[lusty grotto]

ahem

SL s3/s4

[ivory barn]

But you had a talent for it in TBC 😂

[lusty grotto]

no

we did not

[solid sun]

Survival should never be ranged again

[ivory barn]

Titan's Grip??

[undone beacon]

SL S3/4 where survival was goated, I chose to play Marksman because it was so fun those seasons

[lusty grotto]

which we never talented

its a fury talent

[undone beacon]

MM aimed shot turret my beloved

[lusty grotto]

or was rather

[mighty valley]

yeah survival got to be extremely giga broken for a couple seasons as a big "sorry"

[undone beacon]

I hated the playstyle of surv then tho

[ivory barn]

I want my bulwark paired with a big meaty sword tho

[undone beacon]

The fishing for bomb procs was lame

[lusty grotto]

titan's grip wasnt TBC

it was wrath

[undone beacon]

She grip my titan till I TBC

[lusty grotto]

and you couldnt do it as prot because its the literal capstone

dead last in the fury tree

[undone beacon]

something something
Glad stance

[pallid quiver]

That sounds like you're not usin' enough of ye olde Cheat Engine

[lusty grotto]

yeah i guess

[coarse bay]

I think i won

[lusty grotto]

get em wizards, they think they so smart and then get dn'd

[coarse bay]

They arent ready for this

[lusty grotto]

[solid sun]

I still can't believe Cam is a wizard

And now Pash is a wizard, too

[undone beacon]

Sometimes you just need to play with the tentacles okay

[mighty valley]

You're a traitor too Rhino

[lusty grotto]

[worthy karma]

Do i want to be saving my adventure crests? does it matter?

[solid sun]

I'm not a wizard, harrow

[lusty grotto]

nah

[undone beacon]

Saving em to trade up during turbo boost

[lusty grotto]

lol

yeah ig

[coarse bay]

If you truly want to minmax there’s a guide by larias that tells you how to game, but id say just vibe

[lusty grotto]

but turbo boost might be different this time around

[coarse bay]

Im a worror

[mighty valley]

a monk is like a wizard of the body

[lusty grotto]

and also its a long long time before turboboost comes around

[mighty valley]

and drinking

[lusty grotto]

adventure crests just drop from everything so it doesnt matter

[worthy karma]

yea i mean i do wanna min max, but cant find specifics for crests

[lusty grotto]

you can sneeze and get 10 of them

[worthy karma]

yea

[coarse bay]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTGkZ2Cjr0jlv90XqW9vy9VXsVucd-yMCgHdyCvX_kQfOrexNDAC7Lf3LifuhqxrcWqJ0W3zIhvK3ii/pub

[solid sun]

Are you flirting with me

[coarse bay]

I havent bothered to read it in terms of crests because i dont care about gear rn

But that’s the minmax route

[lusty grotto]

adventurer is the lowest type of crest

again

it doesnt matter

spend em

you can just do laps around quel'danas and get them

where you wanna save is in hero crests

starting in

[coarse bay]

Ya the only way theyd matter at all is if theyre capped, i dont even know if they are because ive never looked at them

[lusty grotto]

they should be capped

[worthy karma]

thanks

[coarse bay]

Either way theyre def just junk for sure

[lusty grotto]

yea

[lusty grotto]

if you dont myth raid, this guide might not be the best

just a heads up

[worthy karma]

yea i figured it didnt matter haha i just wanted to double check

[worthy karma]

i do

[lusty grotto]

oh, then your officers should have it

im surprised they havent shared it with your guild

[worthy karma]

yee i had it, it just doesnt give specific crest strategy for early stuff, which I guess means it doesnt matter hahaa

[coarse bay]

Ya if something matters, its mentioned

[lusty grotto]

adventurer, and veteran crests usually dont matter

there are probably instructions for champ crests to skip some heroic uppies

but...

chances are you wont need to anyway because of keys

[undone beacon]

Once you hit crest cap the extra crests turn into Voidlight Marl

[coarse bay]

Before crest changes, we were going to avoid upgrading for like a month according to the guide

[lusty grotto]

not sure what that means Pash but ill figure out tomorrow

[undone beacon]

I have like 12k Voidlight Marl already it’s nice

It’s just the new resonance crystals

Sorry spoilers

[coarse bay]

[coarse bay]

I didnt know that

[solid sun]

Holyy

[coarse bay]

But now i di

Do

[solid sun]

Heckin

[undone beacon]

I really fucked it up this time

[solid sun]

pash, emissary of spoilers

[lusty grotto]

speaking of useless currency though

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-funny-cute-awesome-gif-20320653

[undone beacon]

Go on

[coarse bay]

Im a useless currency

[lusty grotto]

i swear i have like millions of those crystals

i guess it might be less cause i did buy the renown mounts and all that shit

idk i never paid attention to it lol

[undone beacon]

I had a ton and then I used a lot of it on decor

It was easy to get tho

And the new one is even more abundant it seems

Makes sense with how much decor exists in the xpac, so people can buy extras

[solid sun]

Not to me

[coarse bay]

[pale wharf]

Hey does anyone have a talent build so far just trying to figure out who’s running what?

[coarse bay]

Im using the build on wowhead rn but when im on next ill switch to the icyveins build because my hero mwahi

The builds on either guide will work though

[pale wharf]

Thanks

[toxic pewter]

Yeah I prefer icy veins guide myself.

[hallow sentinel]

Man, it is a bit sad how little damage my prot warrior does in comparison to my monk when doing overworld quest stuff. A rare takes forever to kill solo

[lusty grotto]

your brew is an outlier and will get nerfed on the 17, so enjoy it while you can

that goes for bear too

[hallow sentinel]

rather see us gets buffed than nerfing other tank dmg imo

[lusty grotto]

i feel the same way

but we'll see what happens

[hallow sentinel]

I think druid's damage definitely needs a nerf, but I think brew damage is pretty perfect. Around 60-70% of dps from what I am seeing

[round pendant]

2/3rds of dps damage is pretty nice feeling

[coarse bay]

Whats nice is having no damage outside of cds as a tank

We can truly rp as a dps

Little bumpy bumpy

[chilly brook]

@lusty grotto

hmmmm

[drowsy comet]

Morning old fellas!

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chuni-sleep-gif-20108376

[pure marsh]

do i need to change my talents from the starter build one ?

[drowsy comet]

[jagged pier]

[vernal storm]

🫠

[drowsy comet]

i was looking exactly like that too when I read this xD

[coarse bay]

I'm not sure what the start build is, if it's the one provided in game by blizzard I'd say switching to one from the guides would be better. Blizzard tends to not know their own game.

[drowsy comet]

how surprising

[coarse bay]

Whats hilarious about that is the tuning doesnt work in your favor as level 90 in keys

Idk about tanks but i heard a lvl 90 dps will just get 1 shot

And who even does a 9

[drowsy comet]

broke people who arent playing early access

[mental scarab]

You can do keys now?

[drowsy comet]

they think a lvl90 tank can carry them easily thru the dungeon, but dont understand that the scaling is ass

[drowsy comet]

Nonono its TWW keys

[coarse bay]

Tww keys are still live until midnight

[mental scarab]

Ahhhjjjj @drowsy comet

Why dafuc do you run keys now

[coarse bay]

Theyre hyped

Maybe idk

[mental scarab]

Mhm

[slender gull]

Voidstorm delve slam still the fastest way to level or did they hotfix it

[coarse bay]

The story’s are on a rotation and that specific one rotated out

Im not too sure if it’s back

Afaik doing the campaign is comparable for speed, and ive found dungeons alright. I’d choose whatever method you prefer or can stomach.

[drowsy comet]

these rare farming groups.. jesus christ

i literally didnt pull the rare, I didnt do shit, someone accused me of doing so, and I get removed and 2 ppl message me "son of a bitch" LMAOO

get reported lil bro

[drowsy comet]

whats that lol

[hardy snow]

last boss in magister's terrace

voleyball to hard for some folks i guess

[drowsy comet]

with pugs i assume? yea i ran magisters alot, and many many ppl dont know how to do anything lol

[hardy snow]

yea, thats fun, I told them after the first wipe

fortunately they got it on 3rd try

[drowsy comet]

lmao

[cold tapir]

I haven't seen anyone posting about this trinket, but it seems brokenly good

^crit at 10 stacks (in defensive stance)

[daring marlin]

Prey is kinda neat

[daring marlin]

Shouldn't have pulled lil gup smh

[drowsy comet]

grown ass men behind a screen, unemployed and insulting others lol

oh btw been farming these stupid rares for hours lul

[daring marlin]

Many such cases

[lofty glen]

where are they from?

[drowsy comet]

rares.

killing alot of rares.

dont think its a spoiler when I say, that the best way as of right now to get gear is killing rares, and doing world quests.

[unkempt hazel]

if theres a lot of them

then why are they rare

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[drowsy comet]

idk, ask Mr. WoW

[lusty grotto]

oh? rogue-ing it up?

[sharp gale]

Can’t you do… heroic dungeons ?

[drowsy comet]

Dont think they drop anything good

[sharp gale]

224 no ?

I need to log on

[drowsy comet]

How come nobody said this lol

[sharp gale]

It’s in the dungeon journal

[fleet flicker]

they drop the same ilvl as world quests

[drowsy comet]

ive been doing worldquests today and a bunch of rares, and god from 190 to 214ilvl within a few hrs. Think tomorrow when theres more WQs I should be about 220

[jagged pier]

i just am 220

[drowsy comet]

couldnt do heroics because I wasnt 214 ilvl (which is a stupid requirement)

[jagged pier]

took no time

[sharp gale]

But don’t’ go too hard on heroic dungeons, it’s not that useful, it’s more of a : farm what you didn’t loot in mm0 thing

[upbeat plover]

I hear they nerfed delve spam leveling. But I can't find info on how. Is this tru?

[jagged pier]

btw u can get 227 loot from lvl 7 delves

[drowsy comet]

M0 getting spammed at when they are out. But sadly they are weekly gated

[jagged pier]

the delve probs isnt active today

[upbeat plover]

I'm 222 from just doing WQs here or there very easy

[sharp gale]

They drop unlimited loot from delves rn ?

[lusty grotto]

m0 is weekly gated?

[upbeat plover]

Hmm... I did it on all 3 stories the last 3 days

Got 3 90s

[lusty grotto]

they went back on the daily lockout from TWW?

[jagged pier]

[upbeat plover]

[sharp gale]

From what I understood, yes

[lusty grotto]

unfort

[jagged pier]

i havnt seen anything about it being nerfed

[jagged pier]

m0s are always a weekly lock out

[upbeat plover]

I've had people tell me it is. But I can't find any actual nerfs

[jagged pier]

just go in and check?

[lusty grotto]

nah jakey they were daily in TWW

[drowsy comet]

which is stupid considering ppl will spam M+, but M0 being weekly is dumb af

[sharp gale]

They did 1 micro experience in S1 or S2 if I remember with daily mm0

[drowsy comet]

🥀

[jagged pier]

nah that was for like 1 season

not the whole expansion

[lusty grotto]

ah well

[upbeat plover]

Eh, at work atm

Just wondering if anyone had specific knowledge or if people gas lightin

Cuz I was doing it yesterday and it felt fine

[sharp gale]

Im gonna check, which delve it is ?

[drowsy comet]

Well only 2 weeks anyway till M0 starts and the season, and with that bountyful delves tho

[sharp gale]

I did dungeon spam on my bdk, I can’t anymore

[upbeat plover]

Shadowpoint Guard

You just pull as much as you can handle, aoe down, repeat

[drowsy comet]

To level?

[upbeat plover]

On my prot war, which had good gear from tww, I was able to pull the whole place at easy at 80, and killing it all was over a bar each time, and took like 4-5 mins to do

[upbeat plover]

Yes

[sharp gale]

I didn’t want to do it bc it seemed unfun, but I’m sick of dungeons, they are not as quick as tww

[upbeat plover]

It gets progressively harder as you level up.
Some real gamer moments in the 87-89 range, but I was still managing to pull essentially the whole place

Swapped to tough as nails in the mid of my leveling process, dmg flew up

[sharp gale]

Yeah unsure I’ll do it on the bdk then, I’m 89 and undermine + leveling gear

[drowsy comet]

Still working? I think from Wowhead I saw something that it may change with the next daily reset or something

[solid sun]

I have been questing and soaking up all the lore. I’m gonna be the midnight trivia lord

[upbeat plover]

I've been told it's been nerfed. But I can't find any actual evidence of it. So as far as I can tell it's still good

[lusty grotto]

oh right

i should buy the expansion

i only have how many hours

[upbeat plover]

But it's was a level every 30 mins give or take

[lusty grotto]

9 hours and 41 mins

[jagged pier]

from a quick test it seems the same

[tribal wharf]

i couldnt tell you the first thing about the story so far

besides elves

[jagged pier]

but regardless u can just complete the silvermoon one for the same speed

[upbeat plover]

I know some do the mushroom put

[tribal wharf]

i actually got lvl 90 proper by exploration exp, since its like, 5 buttons, ran a max level normal and got a 214 something

[sharp gale]

lvl 88 i'm gonna do it once

[tribal wharf]

havent done any world quest or gone to any other zones at all yet

[jagged pier]

u should just do a delve world tour

[upbeat plover]

Godspeed

teamsalute

[drowsy comet]

Xalatath feet

[tribal wharf]

magisters terrace is a really solid dungeon i ran it last night finally

[upbeat plover]

But yes, if you haven't done the delve world tour you should do that

[drowsy comet]

its absolutely sick, I enjoy it alot

[drowsy comet]

damn its giga ass

[tribal wharf]

i think my 4k monitor in process of dying

top edge turned bit black, probably have ro replace or repair now, not my main driver

[sharp gale]

it took me 1 min

[upbeat plover]

Did you pull whole place or like first few packs?

[lusty grotto]

it is done

[sharp gale]

whole place

i launch again and send a spoiler screenshot of the whole place

[lusty grotto]

no more upgrade available for me

[sharp gale]

everything in this room

[upbeat plover]

Yeah that's the first few packs.
But tbf, on that story, that's probably best

Technically you can get past the barrier on the stairs, but it's annoying

On other stories, you can easy cruise thru, and pull like 10x the mobs

[sharp gale]

the actual pull

[upbeat plover]

Yeah, it's still a good amount

But the pull on the good story I do, running around takes like 2-3 mins alone

[tribal wharf]

wrong setting on monitor LOL

fuck around with knob on back of it for 45 seconds find something called eye saver

instantly better

[upbeat plover]

When I first learned of it, this is what I did

[tribal wharf]

kinda

[upbeat plover]

Expanded from there

[sharp gale]

it's not like i can pull more

[upbeat plover]

Yeah, it's way harder at the higher levels

I was managing it, but I was prot war in heroic level gear from tww s3, and def stance helps

[tribal wharf]

ya, it was just some software or possibly heating up in the morning issue

[upbeat plover]

When I did on my dk, I was doing smaller pulls

[tribal wharf]

lord only knows, well, at least i know its an affix for pc

[upbeat plover]

But did dk first so I was just learning

[jagged pier]

scaling makes it a bit tough on undergeared chars

when u hit like 87

it becomes does veera heal me

[sharp gale]

i mean, i can't pull more, the room ends here, i might just use icebound fortitude

[jagged pier]

nah u can run round it

[upbeat plover]

You can jump past it to the left. The hit box is just bigger than it looks

And the other 2 stories don't have those at all

So if you do it on diff days, you don't have to deal with those

[sharp gale]

before omega pull

[jagged pier]

i dont think its nerfed

i did the massive pull and died but i still got like half a bar

[drowsy comet]

[drowsy comet]

at what level tho

[jagged pier]

89

u cant die if ur low level

[upbeat plover]

Tbf, I don't really do it at 89.
Thats when I turn in all delver calls

[drowsy comet]

damn half a bar of XP at 89 is wild

[upbeat plover]

It's like 1 and a 4th bars at 80

[tribal wharf]

i just spammed dungeons, each dungeon with trash and boss and lfd bonus exp was ~2.25 bars per run

[jagged pier]

pulling the whole room is about 50k xp

[upbeat plover]

In like 4 mins

[tribal wharf]

so 4 runs, and thats 1 lvl

1 run can be done in 10-15 minutes no fuck ups everyone does dps and knows where to go

[upbeat plover]

The dungeons are such bullet sponges tho

[tribal wharf]

30 minutes worst

[drowsy comet]

dont even have a bar lul, elvui privilege

[sharp gale]

that's a lot of trash

[upbeat plover]

1 bar is 10%

[upbeat plover]

It is ascending

[sharp gale]

and it took me 4 min but i forgot a pack so it took me some time to kill it

[drowsy comet]

only 1 bar and a bit per delve? idk if thats worth it tbh, when dungeons give 73k flat

about 70k stil tho

• the XP you get from killings mobs

[upbeat plover]

If I miss or forget a pack, I just leave it. Not worth it time wise. Better to are down what I got and go next

[drowsy comet]

Never give up never what

[upbeat plover]

Not completing the delve. Just from killing all the trash

Takes like 4 mins

So... 13% of a level in 4 mins is pretty good

[drowsy comet]

but it gets insane repetetive fast, no?

[upbeat plover]

I mean yeah sure

But we push on

[solid sun]

Do some gathering and crafting

What a productive level

[drowsy comet]

i think dungeons and a couple of sidequests might be more worth, and you constantly get some nice upgrades too tho

[sharp gale]

im gonna try to take the entire delve

[drowsy comet]

and when ur 90 you do all ur WQs that reward gear, then either push some delves or kill rares for an hour or two

[solid sun]

Happy launch day

For everyone who resisted early access

[tribal wharf]

thats a spoiler

mods ban him

i was not aware today is launch day

[solid sun]

Yogi I’m gonna introduce you to my friend named Full Nelson

Make sure you say hi and stay cordial while you flail about!

[sharp gale]

i took everything up until the third room

[jagged pier]

doesnt look nmerfed to e

[solid sun]

Tbh happy at this point you should just stream your leveling

[sharp gale]

i can

there is no more voice channel here ?

[jagged pier]

think they got old yellered

[sharp gale]

bc it might kill me to take a screenshot when there is that many mobs

[jagged pier]

its a fun pull

[tribal wharf]

old yellered when reffering to voice chat channels

[jagged pier]

just LOS them in the entrance

becomes even more fun

[cerulean tusk]

Double check if they aint just hidden by default, with the filter thing

[sharp gale]

yeah i'll do it until 90 it is fun break from dungeons

[ivory barn]

Do you think they'll nerf that by tonight?

[loud rune]

nah there is no vc here

[sharp gale]

i just right click leave the delve

[loud rune]

which delve is it?

finished camp, power leveling doesnt sound bad

[tribal wharf]

i should do some vault content, if the vault even opens tuesday

[lusty grotto]

it wont

vault opens on season start

[upbeat plover]

Hard to tell. It's been known for a few days now

[cerulean tusk]

Guess VC was removed after that one guy was in a room alone for 36 hours

[sharp gale]

i took the entire delve, until the end room

[cerulean tusk]

Farming 8s for 227 gear and xp, or what madness you doing delves for?