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junior ivy
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Ok that's promising

lusty grotto
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buy the cheap one

trail rune
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you need midnight and a sub

lusty grotto
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and wait for monday

junior ivy
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What's Monday

lusty grotto
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release

trail rune
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release

junior ivy
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New expac?

lusty grotto
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Midnight release

trail rune
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its early access rn

lusty grotto
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yea

junior ivy
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Ohhh

lusty grotto
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you buy that one and thats it

junior ivy
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It'll let me even if I don't have the others?

trail rune
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sub gives u all others

junior ivy
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I'm soooo interested in the houses

trail rune
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midnight counts as tww too

lusty grotto
junior ivy
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Ok cool I'm gonna see how much it is

lusty grotto
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let me make sure

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yeah it includes the previous ones

junior ivy
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Awesome

lusty grotto
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pretty sure that has been the case for decades now

trail rune
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yep subscription includes all but current expac, and you buy the newest one

lusty grotto
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welcome back catfriend 😄

junior ivy
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Probably lol I just forgot

trail rune
lusty grotto
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nah

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before that even

junior ivy
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I don't wanna fight anything just decorate a cute house

lusty grotto
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ye

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its 50 bucks for the base one

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and the sub

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you buy that and do the quest to unlock housing and you're good

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but wait until monday

junior ivy
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Do I gotta do dungeons etc for the housing stuffp?

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My setup isn't good for gaming i don't have a monitor lol

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Just pc connected to the living room TV

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Not ideal for wow

mighty valley
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You can get housing items from basically everything in the game

toxic pewter
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a lot of the decor that drops in dungeons can be bought on AH

mighty valley
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You can look through the catalog and figure out what you want and where to get it

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Printer right under the tv goes crazy

junior ivy
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Lol I don't even think it works

lusty grotto
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there are drops you may want but if you level you can just solo those

junior ivy
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Ok good to know!

lusty grotto
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no worries you good bear

tribal wharf
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after some consideration i changed to this

lusty grotto
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could be a worse build

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so i aint gonna complain

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so long as you grab Battlefield Commander that is

mighty valley
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it’s kinda hard these days to come up with a real meme build

lusty grotto
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yeah really hard

mighty valley
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other than like “I’m gonna skip tc”

warm plinth
mighty valley
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nah it’s far right

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2nd is stance mastery

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please be right please be right please be right

ivory barn
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I switched from Spear to Commander and havent looked back

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our new apex thing seems almost not worth

mighty valley
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take shield spec!!!

ivory barn
lusty grotto
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take

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shield specialization

mighty valley
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i mean it doesn’t really matter while leveling but

lusty grotto
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it does matter

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maybe not with questing but it does in dungeons and raids

mighty valley
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i mean you could do leveling dungeons partially nude

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and with some gear pieces missing in the video game too

lusty grotto
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perhaps

ivory barn
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what to drop to get that

mighty valley
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sudden death is an ass point with current execute tuning right

lusty grotto
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BSV

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youre not lvl 90

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you dont need to drop anything ig

ivory barn
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im 88

lusty grotto
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just grab it

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or just swap bloodborne with SD

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in ST/thane

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enduring alacrity is a potential swap point

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if you need BSV

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and Devastating Focus for Challenging ig

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youd lose a fair bit of dps for it though

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if playing colossus

ivory barn
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im thane

mighty valley
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pobody’s nerfect

lusty grotto
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ok then disregard anythying concerning colossus

ivory barn
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told my Raid lead I was crafting shield first, and was told I'd be benched if I did LOL

lusty grotto
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are you dps?

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in raid?

ivory barn
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yes

lusty grotto
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then hes 100% right

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i would bench you too

mighty valley
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he’s right…… except i seriously doubt one dps making suboptimal crafting choices is what’s gonna really slow down the guild’s progression lol

ivory barn
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I mean. I dont blame him

solid sun
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If he benches you he’s an idiot

lusty grotto
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it does cause gearing is supposed to be evenly distributed, and every dps is supposed to craft weapon first almost all the time

solid sun
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His guild sucks

lusty grotto
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no

solid sun
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By his own admission

mighty valley
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sure sure, standards have to be maintained and all that

solid sun
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He’s in an aotc guild

mighty valley
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oh

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yeah no aotc guild should be dictating gear choices of any kind

lusty grotto
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its not a "his guild sucks" thing

mighty valley
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just fuckin chill out and you’ll get there whenever

lusty grotto
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its a "his guild has weird expectations" thing

solid sun
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Well he was talking about his guild’s dps is pretty bad

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So he would be dpsing to help them out

lusty grotto
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ok well in that case

solid sun
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But it’s just aotc

lusty grotto
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why would he not craft a weapon

solid sun
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And he’s tanking dungeons

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His hardest content will be the dungeons he does

lusty grotto
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if hes outdpsing everyone, why would he nerf himself

ivory barn
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^ there's prolly why he said that

solid sun
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Also as I’m typing these messages I find myself believing I know way too much about his guild

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There are a few reasons

warm plinth
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You're all cute

solid sun
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  1. I don't buy into the idea that an aotc guild should ever dictate what someone is doing. It's super weird.

  2. If he's going to be among their best dps, call the dude's bluff. They don't even have to trim down to 20 people.

  3. I'm of the opinion that you should make crafting decisions based on what will have the best impact on your character towards the hardest content you will be participating in. For this person, that will be tanking dungeons.

solid sun
lusty grotto
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brother in a guild youre part of a team

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any guild

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it doesnt matter the content level

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if you dont agree with how gearing works, theres a solution for that

ivory barn
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I was not mad at their desicion

lusty grotto
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its very easy you can simply do /gquit

solid sun
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Yeah. If he knows the fights, handles his tasks, doesn't die, does good damage, he's satisfying his part in being apart of that team.

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Trying to pretend like it's the same as a mythic raiding guild is weird. It isn't that.

lusty grotto
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that is an expectation problem

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youre still part of a team, and if you dont gear as they plan to, youre just breaking ranks

solid sun
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This isn't the military.

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We aren't breaking ranks.

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I wouldn't have even bothered telling them what I was crafting. I would have just sent it.

ivory barn
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not like tanking is complicated outside of raid

solid sun
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If anything, tanking dungeons is more complicated and more difficult outside of raid.

lusty grotto
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so its totally okay for him to craft whatever he wants, but if timmy the holy paladin wants to craft a 2h first, they are fucked? is that how that works?

solid sun
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No, they aren't fucked.

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Timmy the holy paladin can loot stuff from dungeons

lusty grotto
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so can GGs

solid sun
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You can just get aotc by showing up every week

lusty grotto
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for his prot spec

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so whats the problem

solid sun
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Because it's less optimal

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Aren't you a numbers person

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I'm so confused right now

lusty grotto
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its less optimal for.... a whole guild?

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versus a key?

solid sun
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The hardest content that will be done for someone who raids aotc and pushes keys, whatever pushing might be for them, is doing the keys

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So craft to make the keys easier

lusty grotto
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whoever does that in any raid group i join, is a selfish prick

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period

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end of story

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you dont like how looting works, there's the door

daring tapir
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I've been testing out colossus but have never seen specifically deep wounds show up on an enemy as a debuff. Is it bugges or is it just baked into rend

solid sun
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Trying to browbeat someone into making their hardest content harder is selfsh. Period. End of story.

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I can do that, too

lusty grotto
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a guild is a team

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its not one person

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hence "selfish"

solid sun
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Yeah and him tanking dungeons helps the team

lusty grotto
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is he?

solid sun
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Yep

lusty grotto
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how do you know

solid sun
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He said he was dpsing for them and tanking keys for them + on his own iirc

ivory barn
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I did mention that at one point

lusty grotto
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in the target frame so idk

ivory barn
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currently unsure how I'm going to build a dps spec but w.e

lusty grotto
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its still fucked up

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and i would 100% bench you, unless we negotiate

ivory barn
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yeah, I'm confused how its gonna workl

mighty valley
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eh i think having serious loot rules for an aotc guild is silly

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but if the rules exist, you should follow them

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or else drama will ensue

lusty grotto
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thats exactly my point

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and loot drama is the worst fucking drama

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its petty, selfish and just dumb

solid sun
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You should gotta be the change you wanna see. People who create dumb rules for aotc guilds are cringe and need to be given a stern talking to

lusty grotto
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or...

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just

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gquit

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???

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why would you wanna change a guild

mighty valley
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i think that's admirable but it's a surprisingly large cultural change for one person to try and make and is more likely to just get you kicked for someone else

solid sun
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most of the time when I encounter it, it's usually like 1-3 people who think it's just absolutely necessary for them to get aotc and most everyone else is annoyed by it or doesn't care.

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And I prefer speaking my mind before I just leave. Sometimes conversations are good

lusty grotto
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🤷‍♂️

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
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it doesnt show on the nameplate no

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it shows on the target frame

daring tapir
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I just saw it one time but then demolished again and didn't see it

lusty grotto
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its not a big deal

tribal wharf
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ill be 87 in the morning

lusty grotto
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youre not gonna optimize deep wounds anyway

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with only demolish

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and at the state execute is in, youre at a dps loss if you talent into it

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the only way to optimize it is precisely with execute

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and its just not worth as colossus

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but yes, its probably something that needs to be reported to blizzard

solid sun
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@coarse bay you asked for a snip of my UI

coarse bay
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noice\

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big like

solid sun
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ty big dawg

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It's just hijack's

coarse bay
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@solid sun you have so many friends

solid sun
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do not

mighty valley
solid sun
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No

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I'm not sold on this UI tbh. I feel like it's hitting above my weight class

mighty valley
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i'm such an old man, i'm just rolling with nearly completely base UI

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and fiddling with a handful of things as they annoy me

solid sun
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This is one of those UI's that hides your action bars unless you mouse over them.

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Dude, I'm so old I couldn't figure out how to fix that so now I just can't ever see my action bars and I feel like I'm trying to walk on feet that don't have heel bones

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Is it still worth it to go double gathering

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or is it a good idea to just go ahead and go herb/alch and start working on alch

coarse bay
tall crypt
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What items are we crafting once we get our sparks warriors

coarse bay
lusty grotto
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shield unless you have a guaranteed Myth first boss shield

coarse bay
lusty grotto
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shield > weapon > lower ilvls

ivory barn
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follower dungeon npc's dont release for a solid like 5 minutes

coarse bay
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Follower dungeons are horrible imo and should only be used for testing and ui setup

solid sun
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I figured out the mouseover. I'll keep them visible until i remember all my brew buttons

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i still love you nimchip

coarse bay
solid sun
ivory barn
solid sun
coarse bay
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how's your midnight journey so far?

solid sun
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I just got to the new hub

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so i'm just exploring

coarse bay
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I love the zones

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so far in terms of exploration and questing and stuff its really good imo

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going around and seeing the redone old zones is really nice, makes me want them to go through all the old areas

solid sun
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I laughed

sharp gale
undone beacon
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Almost got the druid decked out in full adventurer

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Been havin fun

sharp gale
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I got done with my war yesterday I started to level my bdk

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Im similar gear as Pash, almost every piece adventurer 220+, 90% from world quests

undone beacon
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WQs and rares have been great

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Gonna do my preist now

solid sun
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Are the WQ's making you bank

drowsy comet
fallen frost
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guys im got a question for the early accessors, do you have issues with the first area of murder row? I get destroyed only in the first section, just wondering if im just bad or what

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seems like I dont have a shield on lol

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when doing that bit

solid sun
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@coarse bay have you tried healing

sharp gale
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im 82 i don't see it

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i just finished murder row rn

fallen frost
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Yea I did it at 88, brew was fine for me but as prot I was chain dying, literally every other dung I’ve been slamming, idk maybe I was doing something wrong lol, just wanted to see other peoples vibes about it

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Thanks

lusty grotto
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i joined a key with nimchiptwo

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dawnbreaker 8

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this rdruid invited me and then swapped to a lvl 90 rdruid

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he couldnt heal the dungeon

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LOL

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2nd pull full wipe

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then he said apparently scaling was fucked, but it didnt feel any different for any of us 80s

sharp gale
coarse bay
lusty grotto
drowsy comet
lusty grotto
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probably

coarse bay
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its still only 3 mounts a kill though

drowsy comet
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i kinda dont think so because maybe as soon as you can play midnight the chance goes back to like 1-3% or whatever it will be

glad magnet
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no one has time for dimmy, we need to get our pre m0 heroic BiS and do all our rep, plus fishing has 300 levels

drowsy comet
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lmao

sharp gale
drowsy comet
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kinda yea

jagged gust
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I still consider my hunter my main because it's the one I farmed the Underlight Angler on

drowsy comet
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argghhh need to charge mouse before i can play deadge

sharp gale
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Im a bloomer, I need wires

drowsy comet
sharp gale
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Idk about freedom of mousepad, I think I have high sensitivity on my mouse so I don’t move a lot my hand

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3200 dpi from what i found

drowsy comet
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jesus thats high af

sharp gale
sharp gale
drowsy comet
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personal preference tho

drowsy comet
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think i should level my prot warrior now

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hm nah

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time for my brew to get to 90

ionic fern
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This bear has been following me around literally across zones.

drowsy comet
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i love how fucking small my dwarf looks like in the character screen lmao

drowsy comet
upbeat plover
ionic fern
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Always.

glad magnet
drowsy comet
drowsy comet
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m+ tanking as prot pal will be hard af unless there will be somehow a big buff, which at this stage for balancing, I doubt

daring marlin
drowsy comet
daring marlin
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first season buddy?

drowsy comet
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all i can say in dungeons rn, pala struggles alot

daring marlin
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bro's struggling in normal and heroic dungeons

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lol

toxic pewter
daring marlin
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It must be the class!!!!!

drowsy comet
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yea you clearly havent played prot pal in midnight then lol

daring marlin
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Where is @lusty grotto

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Laugh at this boy

drowsy comet
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wtf

coarse bay
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Depending on your level, once u hit 87+ the scaling/gear makes some classes sad

daring marlin
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baby's first launch I guess

coarse bay
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I did a dungeon at level 89 on pally and was losing half my hp per buster

daring marlin
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talking about gup fyi

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Scaling normally gets goofy in later levels til you get gear

coarse bay
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Ya thats why the common strat rn is to turn in delve quests and the finish with professions once u hit 88

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Blizzard things, our gear is low for the level

drowsy comet
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i mean yea i dont have that much yet, literally 3rd day of EA. But this is kinda weird

daring marlin
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💯

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prolly do bdk and warrior next

coarse bay
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Ill probably take a break from leveling once im done on my monk

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Itll be #4, not sure how many ill do

drowsy comet
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jesus how are u leveling so fast

coarse bay
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It isnt fast

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Its playing too much

daring marlin
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I was taking like 45mins per level I think

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pretty quick

drowsy comet
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what are u doing to level lol

daring marlin
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blitzing campaign

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nuking stuff

drowsy comet
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so playing the campaign on all alts worth it??

daring marlin
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I didn't get to play at all yesterday

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I'm talking about first time through idk about alts yet

drowsy comet
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ah

coarse bay
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I did campaign on main, half the sides on 2nd, other half on 3rd, and im dung spamming the 4th and its very fast

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Leveling with sides was slow but i needed them done for rep so multitasking

daring marlin
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I don't wanna quest on it

coarse bay
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2 zomes

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Zones

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Then other 2 zones

drowsy comet
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and that gives u good xp?

coarse bay
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No

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Lol but better to get xp for it than not

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Either do it on main for just rep, or do it to level alts

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Campaign is probably the best

jagged pier
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why would u not just delve?

coarse bay
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Dungeon spam can be very good too but id youre solo pugging you can get some long ones

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Im not too sure of the xp rates from delving

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Doing each one at least once for the quests is super good value

daring marlin
coarse bay
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Ya thats why doing it on alts works good

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U get the rep and level

daring marlin
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That was my thought too

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I'd just do side quests on alts

coarse bay
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Its pretty slow but u gotta do them eventually

warm plinth
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I thought quest rep was one time

sharp gale
# drowsy comet why´s that

Each level the stats amount per % changes to be at a low amount at the start of an expansion, as example you start lvl 80 with 40% haste and end up with 8% without changing gear, mobs don’t care about that

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So if you do the campaign etc, if you do it lvl 89, the mobs are interesting

coarse bay
warm plinth
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That's pretty much every expansion though. You get to x7 or x8 and the scaling gets rough

sharp gale
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That’s why ppl close to lvl 80 are first dps whatever they do

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In dungeons

solid sun
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Good morning

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I’m almost 81

coarse bay
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Good morning

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Im about to sleep deadge

warm plinth
solid sun
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lol

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Ghash when are we gonna be gamers together

drowsy comet
sharp gale
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Rhinos don’t live that long

solid sun
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There have been many breakthroughs in the medical field, happy

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Rejoice

sharp gale
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Are you a genetically modified rhino (GMR) ?

solid sun
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I'm just #blessed

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I'm also not 81 though that would be crazy

drowsy comet
warm plinth
glad magnet
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they should make arms a healer spec so we can full stack warriors

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would be a damage increase too

tribal wharf
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i still cant believe i was on par with lvl 87 me lvl 85 thane fury in that one dungeon

ionic fern
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What's there to believe?

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I'm 2nd in overall in most dungeons i do as a tank.

tribal wharf
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i was nearly beat him with overhelming rage and BT

ionic fern
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They are normal dungeons.

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😂

dusky canopy
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being back in ||silvermoon|| is pretty cool ngl

solid sun
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Dude

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This is the coolest leveling

tribal wharf
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im trying to find it

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ah i dont have it

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anyways the point is

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i got told best "tank ever hit in ass" in 1 dungeon becuase that is what happened (i blame on first time i ran the place dont know what to pull)

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and died 2 times back to back first pull of murder row

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on one dungeon somehow

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so im not perfect at game, still lots of mechanical errors

solid sun
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You're the second person to mention dying there

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I haven't been in that dungeon so I would like to avoid spoilers but might be something for our turbo warriors to know

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People are having trouble there

tribal wharf
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thats my strategy atm

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bunch of dungeons 3 or 5 quest

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another dungeon

glad magnet
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gods im not looking forward to the murder row m+

tribal wharf
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not falling into trap of valor stone farming heroics

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burn my self out

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on heroic dungeon

sharp gale
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Im lvl 85 with bdk i start seeing dmg taken, but in few lvl I’ll see myself the murder row

tribal wharf
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i log in and this is the very first thing i see today

sharp gale
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Haizek is the only sane person

tribal wharf
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modern day orcs in wow do suck

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compared to lotr and wc

solid sun
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Friends

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How do I save changed in elvui?

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Everytime I log out my modifications don't stick :(

tribal wharf
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have a bunch of 90 bags to open when i hit 90

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cant wait for 7 pairs of boots

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
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if tank LFD is priority

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healer, role based really

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CAN be for dps i think, but extreme rare

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
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im lvl 87 so

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almost

warm plinth
# drowsy comet at level 90 you can get these bags?

Pretty sure they're available at all levels, but they're different based on the level range you're in. So these ones would be for 81+. If you've ever opened like the dungeon finder for normal/heroics and seen a role is like lit up, that's the reward for playing that role and completing the dungeon.

daring marlin
daring marlin
tribal wharf
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lol

drowsy comet
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imagine standing afk with warmode on, thats what u get lil bro keks

undone beacon
undone beacon
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They give ~750 Voidlight Marl, ~1000 gold, and a few augment runes

warm plinth
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There's also no reason to hold on to gear satchels from dungeon completion; they don't scale. They will always give the reward they would've given when you got them.

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(the non-CtA ones, since like Pash said, those just give gold and shit)

tribal wharf
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has to give something though

undone beacon
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I literally told you what they give, plus it’s printed on the item

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Voidlight Marl, gold, and augment runes

warm plinth
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They're also usually the only guaranteed source of runes outside of raid

daring marlin
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augment runes own

warm plinth
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idk I think they're needless personally

undone beacon
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Augment runes own because i hoard them and then dump them during raid release and make oodles of cash

daring marlin
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I definitely don't buy them

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I either sell or use the ones I get from satchels

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cuz I'll do a heroic when it's tank in need rather than afk if I'm bored

sharp gale
drowsy comet
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imagine standing afk lmao, take the L keks

solid sun
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Got my fishing up to 15

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Starting to become a pretty big deal

glad magnet
solid sun
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yeesh

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you're so powerful

glad magnet
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the sea is in my blood

daring marlin
glad magnet
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eww no

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the masterrace

dusky canopy
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Diaper baby lets gooo

solid sun
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@dusky canopy are you 90 yet

warm plinth
solid sun
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They... scream?

warm plinth
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All warriors scream. Gnome screams just stand out

glad magnet
mighty valley
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Mute your balls

dusky canopy
glad magnet
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i dont have any they wre mechanized

drowsy comet
solid sun
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Don't tell me what to do with my balls

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Rude

solid sun
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Unless we count skill ups as levels. Then I'm zooming

daring marlin
glad magnet
dusky canopy
dusky canopy
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idk how to get that xD

frozen berry
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what ilvl stuff do we start replacing tier from tww?

nocturne ibex
dusky canopy
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yes masta

drowsy comet
sharp gale
toxic pewter
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I spent 40 adventure crests am I screwed for the rest of the xpac

dusky canopy
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was that in the Larias guide?

sharp gale
#

Create new account, buy early access again.

toxic pewter
#

Lol it said something like don’t spend any crests

#

And uhhh I spent some sadge

sharp gale
#

That quest gives the itch yes

toxic pewter
#

Yah I just want to do it lmao

sharp gale
#

I did it with free upgrades tho

toxic pewter
#

Hmmm

#

I see

daring marlin
drowsy comet
#

i clicked that link trying to see who larias is, instead i get fucking gnomed lmao

solid sun
#

you need to practice safe disord habits

toxic pewter
tribal wharf
#

ran them until i had enough gold to put bags on all my character

glad magnet
warm plinth
#

/camp works too

solid sun
#

apb you can create a new warrior and start over

drowsy comet
#

Is everyone here going to main prot warrior or will yall be playing different tanks?

warm plinth
#

I'm maining pwar

drowsy comet
#

i need a damn server transfer so I can play my prot warrior without any worries, or I level a new one monkahmm

#

hmm

daring marlin
sharp gale
#

Im fury in raid but ill probably do most of my keys as prot

solid sun
#

I'm probably maining monk

#

Still going to play warrior, though

#

WHy do you need to server transfer lil gup

warm plinth
#

Guys are you all marked safe from having watched a cinematic so far?

drowsy comet
solid sun
#

I feel like I'm safe

drowsy comet
sharp gale
#

I watched 1 single cinematic, I’m press escap spec

solid sun
#

I watch 'em

#

The one I saw was neato

warm plinth
#

I was talking about not watching cutscenes, not being killed during a cutscene. Happy understood

warm plinth
sharp gale
#

I watched one in the last zone bc I was btw wtf is happening?, so I watched one

solid sun
#

That's what I said!

toxic pewter
solid sun
#

I'm just as smart as Larias

dusky canopy
#

LOL

#

gottem

autumn roost
#

if it doesnt say this you're boomed

toxic pewter
mighty valley
#

you gotta watch the cinematics, how can you complain about the story if you don’t see what’s going on

daring marlin
sharp gale
#

They are

drowsy comet
daring marlin
#

like does it even matter if you're on a dead realm?

warm plinth
#

Yes

#

For crafting it does. For everything else, it doesn't.

sharp gale
#

The only things realm restricted are AH stuff like crafting orders or boes

daring marlin
#

good thing I'm on Sargeras then

#

I guess

sharp gale
#

you can cross realm craft orders with your guild

warm plinth
#

Yeah, if you primarily get shit crafted by guild you can play wherever

daring marlin
#

@toxic pewter be ready bro

#

the bop is coming

sharp gale
#

Or you can join the guild of said crafter just for the order and then leave but it seems annoying

toxic pewter
#

sargeras players...

#

a lot of them are pvpers usually pretty good

#

one of them laughed me at yesterday sadge

sharp gale
#

I got killed by a lvl 86 char

#

So I’m shamed for the rest of my life

toxic pewter
autumn roost
drowsy comet
#

How does prot warr feels so far while leveling tho?

toxic pewter
#

ok

warm plinth
#

And haven't spent any talent points

toxic pewter
#

loving Larias addon a l ot btw thanks for making it

autumn roost
#

the reason I say to hold adventurer crests is on the chance that when you start doing normal/heroic in 2 weeks you have any adventurer pieces, you want to be able to upgrade those to max ilvl

warm plinth
#

I keep forgetting

drowsy comet
#

is damage good, or atleast better than on prot pala lol

warm plinth
#

Seems fine so far; things die fast

toxic pewter
solid sun
#

I just leveled cooking up to 27

#

Look out dudes

#

I'm getting serious

toxic pewter
#

make tons of biscuits can get to 95 cooking fast buying mats from vendor

#

last 5 points kinda a pain tho

autumn roost
toxic pewter
#

oh ya dang always forget that.. do u recommend me run with all same aramor type

#

then again everyone will need the gear

solid sun
toxic pewter
solid sun
#

ooooo

sharp gale
toxic pewter
#

yes

sharp gale
#
  • if they did the renowns they can trade those
glad magnet
sharp gale
#

just doing a world tour with the same ppl is already nice, trinkets and jewellery or weps

glad magnet
#

Why world tour there aren’t lockouts for heroic yeah just walk in and reset and do a nice easy dungeon that has a good loot pool?

sharp gale
#

you can take trinkets you can't use bc intel just to have the free upgrade

glad magnet
#

Ahh.

#

I can’t read I’m a warrior

mighty valley
#

i think if you experience damage problems while leveling anything it’s all in your head lol

toxic pewter
#

best part of tank leveling is u can just pull insane amounts of mobs at once

warm plinth
#

*at relatively high levels

#

Leveling from scratch is a different story

frozen berry
#

I’m 87 and it’s slowing down significantly from the early levels

warm plinth
#

Always does around that time

mighty valley
#

oh yeah that kinda always happens

#

and then when you first hit max level there’s usually a power dip too

tribal wharf
#

does new dh "steelaggro"

ionic fern
#

Nope.

solid sun
#

If you keep posting spoilers I’m gonna put you in a headlock

tribal wharf
#

spoiler ||deez nuts||

mighty valley
#

damage meters aren’t spoilers they’re just boring

solid sun
#

There are so many spoilers in that image

sharp gale
#

i didn't know there was a new dh spec sadge

solid sun
#

I didn’t know the new DH spec icon

mighty valley
#

The ship sinks at the end of moby dick

solid sun
#

I didn’t know sazerak was unholy, stimulant from zuljin was rdruid, dystan was ret

sharp gale
#

i can spoil it is painful to dungeon spam on my bdk

solid sun
#

I did know that dude was a devourer DH tho

#

So you’re safe on that one

toxic pewter
solid sun
#

You guys that are doing dungeons though

toxic pewter
#

they makingg a moby dick movie soon sadge

sharp gale
#

about who's mom ?

solid sun
#

It might be helpful to pay attention to the beginning of murderer row or whatever it’s called

toxic pewter
#

lul

solid sun
#

I’ve seen a few people call out the beginning of the dungeon as destroying them

#

Probs helpful to think about what might be tripping people up

glad magnet
toxic pewter
solid sun
#

Haven’t done it so idk anything about it

#

Also spoiling moby dick is probably helpful

#

What a horrible book to try to get through

glad magnet
#

If tuna is chicken of the sea what’s the rhino of the sea

sharp gale
#

I JUST DIED IN MURDER ROW

toxic pewter
#

spoiler alert

undone beacon
#

Murder Row is the only dungeon I haven’t done yet

#

Seems scary

#

easily spooked

sharp gale
#

the healer didn't dispel the poison in the beginning part so i died after i ran out of def cds

mighty valley
#

Can’t stop thinking bout those guys and that whale

drowsy comet
#

im lazy af, im getting a char boost token lol, always wanted to play a dark iron dwarf pwarr, shouldnt have quit torbulent timeways this early ._.

solid sun
#

And it felt like an entire slog

tribal wharf
#

got the left one jsut now

toxic pewter
#

gratz

mighty valley
undone beacon
#

I’ll just listen to an ai voice explain the plot summary over some Minecraft parkour or subway surfers

#

That’s how Herman Melville intended it

drowsy comet
mighty valley
#

moby dick plot summary would be like a ten second subway surfers tiktok

tribal wharf
#

family guy

#

opinion discarded

#

its funny show but i dont really like it

drowsy comet
#

Family Guy > Simpsons

#

there I said it

#

come fight me

tribal wharf
#

my impression of family guy is they are sitting watching a movie with shooting and then someone goes "who the hell thought mel gibson can be a pet detective"

#

and then a car of clowns crashes througth the walls and sets it all on fire

#

and then they go oh this reminds me on this time i went to florida to buy a pick up truck

#

like in a flashback for the final part of thta

#

and none of its connected

#

now, lets compare it to this

#

there are the same multiple funny jokes in the same time frame

#

but all of them are connected together

#

and its not just like some stereo type about some actor doing drugs or something

pallid quiver
tribal wharf
#

old simpsons was greatest ever

#

enshitification around seasons 10+ if i remember it right

mighty valley
#

sure the best episode of family guy is better than the worst episode of the Simpsons

#

but the Simpsons golden years are light years better than any family guy

tribal wharf
#

i have a hot take now though

#

old old star trek sucks balls

#

and i dont like it so much

#

but i do like the 90s star trek

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
#

ah yes, i should clarify further, tv show, not the movies

#

some trek movies is good

drowsy comet
#

Star Trek is cheap Star Wars

tribal wharf
#

no, i dont like star wars all that greatly either

#

both are fine

drowsy comet
#

the only cool thing about star trek was, when The big bang theory had some insiders of Star Trek clueless

tribal wharf
#

to an extent star trek did predict the future in many ways

#

technology wise hinted at it

mighty valley
#

we haven’t eradicated money yet

drowsy comet
#

im still waiting when our ears get sharp

#

evolution or sum shit

pallid quiver
#

Star Trek's worst part is its fanbase

#

I've engaged with the media very little, but I already know this

drowsy comet
#

oh there we go gladge

tribal wharf
#

the streamer i like watching mike matei is huge trek

pallid quiver
#

A lot of them misrepresent the shows as some kind of like, super magical supervision if the future instead of

like a more grounded scifi story

that tells a story

tribal wharf
#

pretty massively so that if you mention it to him, it will throw his focus off

#

and he will ask you what your favorite old episode is

pallid quiver
#

Clips of the show seem neat, but not something I'd engage with much

#

It's probably better on average than most Star Wars things to me

#

But the Star Wars stuff I like, I like a lot

pallid quiver
#

dude movie bug bot was a shame

#

the good general was so cool in the 2d animated clone wars show

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
#

Me eating your share of the pizza

daring marlin
daring marlin
#

LMAO

lusty grotto
#

oh boy

drowsy comet
#

fat ass rat

#

god damn

#

Like actually DAYUM

drowsy comet
lusty grotto
#

i was tagged

pallid quiver
daring marlin
#

Also it goes back to the post if you click it

#

as if I had to scroll back

#

bro's new to discord too smh

drowsy comet
#

nim doesnt seem to care gladge

lusty grotto
#

its ok lil gup will be molded by the fires of getting absolutely knocked the fuck out

#

maybe

drowsy comet
#

holy shit

#

wtf did I just read

#

lmao

lusty grotto
#

cause hes playing prot pala keks

daring marlin
#

skill issue

lusty grotto
#

have you tried standing on your consecration?

daring marlin
#

LMAO

drowsy comet
#

you will be molded by the fires of getting knocked the fuck out SweatPopcorn

lusty grotto
#

yes yes

drowsy comet
pallid quiver
#

if you died, something went wrong

drowsy comet
#

the issue apparently is because of the scaling of the gear and char level. So a few classes seem to struggle abit apparently at 90

#

unless u have above 200 ilvl

lusty grotto
#

i heard that excuse last night

#

on an 8 Dawnbreaker

drowsy comet
#

idk about it, but sounds reasonable

lusty grotto
#

from a 90 rdruid

drowsy comet
#

could be

#

also Amirdrasil at 90 is still hard solo lol

#

even tho its legacy content now

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
#

Fyrakk might gate you if you can't blast him in time

drowsy comet
#

@daring marlin oh and btw Imma get a char boost token so I can get a new fresh pwarr on the right server and to level it. So yea, think im finally joining the boys gladge

pallid quiver
#

Council debuff can hurty if not a tank spec

#

Otherwise, it was pretty doable at level 80

drowsy comet
pallid quiver
#

tindral's the druid

#

you can just live the aoe damage if a tank

drowsy comet
#

ahh shit, yea this guy

pallid quiver
#

though you have to like, actually try

#

Fyrakk will gate you because mecha are still active

#

son ou have to kill him before the tree burns if you have no healing

#

and if solo, reasonably kill him before the line if screaming adds spawn or else they'll just spawn kill the healer adds before you can kill all the screaming adds, meaning you'll wipe due to tree death

lusty grotto
#

why is details freezing my game

drowsy comet
#

all that for a small chance to get a fire owl sadge

drowsy comet
pallid quiver
lusty grotto
#

lol

#

apparently details blowing up is related to february leap year for a details data wipe

#

well not really leap year, just the wrong timestamp for it

torn gulch
#

jesus christ details just went insane

lusty grotto
#

it'll get updated if youre not too technical

#

next update will fix it, and its already pushed

#

should show up shortly on curse and wago

torn gulch
#

already showing on curse

drowsy comet
#

Good rat, here have a cheese 🧀

torn gulch
#

actually nvm i m blind

lusty grotto
torn gulch
#

yea i thought i saw wrong

#

and it's up i just updated

#

damn the update didn't solve anything

junior ivy
#

THE NEW EXPAC IS $115????@lusty grotto

#

Is that normal 😭

#

What the actual f

#

Oh wait is that a special edition

#

Ok there's a cheaper one

#

Oops

lusty grotto
#

yeah lol

mighty valley
#

Sorry about Canada dollars though

lusty grotto
#

i mentioned to not buy the 90 dollar one

strong forum
#

now thats an old name ive not seen in a while

lusty grotto
#

anyway it goes live tomorrow catfiend

lusty grotto
strong forum
#

aah yeah that does make sense

solid sun
#

Hey nimchip

lusty grotto
#

yes?

solid sun
#

Tanks are dying by the hundreds

#

When you do the dungeons at whatever point you’ll have to figure out why

lusty grotto
#

as expected coming out of prepatch ezmode

solid sun
#

Specifically the murder one

lusty grotto
#

yeah i dont know about that one, i would have to play it to see if theres any bugs

solid sun
#

Do you still love me

lusty grotto
#

or see logs

#

sure

solid sun
#

Ok good

torn gulch
#

watch m0 wipe out party after party kekw

solid sun
#

I haven’t even done it tbh

lusty grotto
#

until i see logs, it just has a very high chance of being a skill issue

drowsy comet
mighty valley
#

go to “murder row”
get killed

solid sun
#

Hey we are supposed to to do the murder

#

Not receive the murder

drowsy comet
#

theres nothing that could make anybody mad at rhino lets be honest lol

#

same as apb, Nim, and alot of others lol

#

ah shit thinking outloud again

toxic pewter
#

I got a lot of ppl mad at me I got many enemies

#

Cuz I speak the truth

#

Best way to make enemies

solid sun
#

Nim def disappointed in me last night

drowsy comet
#

I mean yea the truth is hard, duh fucking duhhh but theres no reason to be mad about it

lusty grotto
#

wat

sharp gale
#

Im French, so I have already a lots of enemies here

drowsy comet
toxic pewter
drowsy comet
#

damn

#

but apb so nice gladge

sharp gale
tribal wharf
#

ill try to b lvl 90 today

#

no promise

toxic pewter
#

u got it

drowsy comet
toxic pewter
#

You must be proud of where you are from and who you are

sharp gale
lusty grotto
#

the world has moved on

#

its good to remember those things, but people alive today aren't accountable

#

unless they subscribe/practice to those ideologies

#

anyway back to prot chat

sharp gale
#

Damn poachers.

drowsy comet
#

Tell that to the new gens (im literally one them) who still say that deadge

lusty grotto
#

eh fuck em

drowsy comet
#

We arent accountable for what happened in the past. We should learn and never make that happen ever again

lusty grotto
toxic pewter
#

Mozart is badass

#

😄

sharp gale
#

But it is my personal belief, I wouldn’t push it on someone else

ionic fern
#

Idk what people are dying to.

solid sun
#

Idk boss

ionic fern
#

Murder row just has a debuff that increases physical damage taken by 20% per stack.

#

And a bleed.

sharp gale
#

I died once in murder row first room keks

ionic fern
#

That's abot it.

solid sun
#

Did you remember to adjust your expectations for the fact that you are extremely good and most of us stink

ionic fern
#

I'm a average joe at this point.

sharp gale
lusty grotto
#

so skill issue then

#

mwahi has spoken

ionic fern
#

Git good.

drowsy comet
#

go to “murder row”
get killed

surprised pikachu

undone beacon
#

I havent had any issues in dungeons other than trigger happy mages and DHs pulling extra shit and me letting them tank it peepo

solid sun
#

How has the new DH spec been

#

Are they turbo crankers

#

Are they filling up the dungeon groups

ionic fern
#

Surprisingly, no..not my groups atleast.

solid sun
#

That is surprising

cerulean tusk
#

Murder row, that poison can be a killer. Tho, I played DF, I know how to kite things out

sharp gale
#

Tbf what killed me was reaching 11 stacks + the bleed, healers

undone beacon
#

Some devourers pump, other do negative dps

#

i havent seen a ton of them tho

dusky canopy
#

Goth Devourers bis

#

wait what

drowsy comet
#

Devourer is kinda annoying becauese they extra pull mobs due to their playstyle of collecting these fragments

drowsy comet
solid sun
#

@toxic pewter is well versed in goth chicks

#

The ones at Culver’s had no chance against his pickup lines and suave demeanor

sharp gale
#

But devourers can’t be pocket healers monkahmm

sharp gale
#

Are u supposed to be Bart?

drowsy comet
toxic pewter
solid sun
#

That got me

#

That was a quality retort

#

Idk why there was a retort, but

daring marlin
#

rekt

tribal wharf
#

shaman

solid sun
#

All your dps are beating you

#

That's good

daring marlin
#

Tankian not beating them

#

We're ashamed

torn gulch
#

is rare renown weekly or daily?

mighty valley
#

i don’t really trust damage meters to reveal anything interesting in leveling keys

#

all kinds of weird scaling at play, different gear, vastly different skill levels

lusty grotto
#

or in the entire 2 weeks before the season starts for that matter

undone beacon
torn gulch
#

thank you

#

the background music this xpac is actually fire

#

very interesting experiments done by the music team

tribal wharf
#

I cant beat 257k dps shaman

#

sorry

#

its not in the cards

#

shame there was no special hearthstone animation with the epic edition lol

daring marlin
tribal wharf
#

sir i am lvl 87

#

i avg i dunno 12k dps

#

i have 150 ish ilvl

slate kestrel
#

I have a quick question regarding Indomitable, this seems to be quite nice to have, but i can't figure out any talent to drop for this and it's not skilled in the wowhead builds as well... isn't it as good as it sounds or are all other options really that much stronger?

shut summit
#

for m+ you drop the last couple apex talents for other things if needing surv

lusty grotto
#

its kind of in between of the two

#

personally dont think its a good pick up

#

but

balmy crescent
#

What’s the state of prot warrior compared to other tanks? Maybe compared to guardian Druid

lusty grotto
#

you can do what sense said and see if it makes a difference for you

slate kestrel
#

thanks 🙂

lusty grotto
#

probably tankier though

balmy crescent
balmy crescent
lusty grotto
#

unless stance mastery catches a nerf

balmy crescent
#

I thought the whole thing bout bears is that they are beefy af

#

And prot warr focused more on cc

lusty grotto
#

prot has always been tankier than bears outside of DF s3 bear tier

#

sorry s2

#

and/or any incarn windows that are buffed

#

shield block is very strong

#

when used correctly

#

i.e. always facing mobs

#

and keeping it up

balmy crescent
lusty grotto
#

nope

coarse bay
lusty grotto
#

block never works 360

#

neither does parry

#

or dodge

#

the only thing that works 360 degrees is active mitigation that gives armor

#

thats it

#

like Ironfur and Shield of the Righteous, etc

toxic pewter
#

yo colossus needs 1 more ability for snap threat its awful

#

dont even know what to give it but it needs something

lusty grotto
#

clap and phalanx

#

but yeah losing troar was terrible for it

toxic pewter
#

just feels awful when clap is on cd

#

at least with thane the clap cd is halved

#

and sometimes hard to aim a phalanx/revenge even

#

maybe its just time to let revenge hit 360 degrees

tribal wharf
jagged gust
#

There's something so incredibly disheartening about having to level up in a new xpac

#

Like I killed tens of thousands of mobs at level cap, gimme a lil xp boost or something

toxic pewter
#

lol

#

OMG! finally a weapon to go with murloc suit :3

lusty grotto
#

that is indeed a goated weapon

toxic pewter
#

love it

#

oshit they added a glaive that 1h sword specs can use woot

#

i think that was already a thing for night elves or maybe even everyone? cant remember but im happy

tribal wharf
#

usin this atm

#

and this

#

ignoire the mid

#

i want the me and the target to display health

coarse bay
#

Why is nothing centered or lined up

tribal wharf
#

its scuffed AF