u mad
#protection
toxic pewter
toxic pewter
lol
undone beacon
chgipotle
toxic pewter
lusty grotto
youre not on that other guy's level
toxic pewter
i am trying to reverse it i hope i can
lusty grotto
his level is literally the floor
toxic pewter
its just when u eat fast food for 37 years every day it takes a toll
and dont get good sleep
lusty grotto
well thats certainly true
toxic pewter
undone beacon
simple stop eating food and start sleeping all day
toxic pewter
i am on new diet already down 6 pound
and i batch made some quesadillas
first time i cooked
something
lusty grotto
nice
solid sun
My family had a big kerfuffle about iPad kids last night
Because my daughter told her cousins that I said she couldn’t have an iPad because it would rot her brain
And they all have iPads
toxic pewter
I can only imagine though like that predicament rhino just said.. kids want what other kids have and stuff
so must be extremely difficult to maneuver
cerulean tusk
It is more the content, than the tool. But phones do have a lot of short dopamine content
lusty grotto
phones = ipad in this case
cerulean tusk
Just let the kids escape the phones and shit, aint needed to be a happy kid. Certainly not better being a iPad kid, that is for sure
toxic pewter
i woul make it offline only
lusty grotto
ye
toxic pewter
I would open it up and remove the modem
lusty grotto
all my nephews can do phones and ipads, but only their parents are present
which is fine
cerulean tusk
Give em an old flippy so they can call you, if you are a helicopter parrent
lusty grotto
otherwise they arent allowed
toxic pewter
my parents let me play games and shit do whatever i want and look how I turned out.. tell that to ur bro/sis/yourself
toxic pewter
tell them about apb
lusty grotto
physical play and all
cerulean tusk
my parents let me play games and shit do whatever i want and look how I turned o...
Not comparable to the 5 sec dopamine spike content that is going on
You dont want children to be conditioned to that kind of brain frame work
solid sun
There’s a smart tv in the living room and they downloaded the dude perfect app
toxic pewter
Not comparable to the 5 sec dopamine spike content that is going on
You dont wa...
yeah good point...I can only imagine
solid sun
And one of the things you can watch are their short form videos
They also got YouTube and obviously lots of shorts there
Everytime they fire ‘em up my daughter and I go outside
lusty grotto
well my nephews are too young they only watch miss rachel and baby shark 😄
toxic pewter
outside is the greatest 
solid sun
lol
lusty grotto
but also they are getting warmed up to spidey and friends
ionic fern
Mine has phone screen time set to 2h.
lusty grotto
based
lusty grotto
toxic pewter
XD
solid sun
lol
ionic fern
When they can farm herbs in wow tho, they get uncapped
Mine writes the IV guides.
dusky canopy
well my nephews are too young they only watch miss rachel and baby shark 😄
They’re almost ready for saw movies
toxic pewter
XD
lusty grotto
They’re almost ready for saw movies
solid sun
When the tv is on my nephews are left hypnotized
It’s so crazy to watch
I feel like I probably did that sometimes too but being on this side of it is kinda funny
cerulean tusk
When you are the outsider looking in, ya always get a "oh" moment
lusty grotto
i mean thats fine as long as the parents are present and not absent heh
solid sun
Unfortunately they aren’t
lusty grotto
solid sun
lol I’ve been told not to parent their kids
solid sun
But I do ask them if they wanna do stuff outside
cerulean tusk
lol I’ve been told not to parent their kids
Ouch, I am sorry, Rhino
solid sun
It’s working
cerulean tusk
solid sun
I’m poisoning them against the tv
By introducing them to the wonders of touching grass
cerulean tusk
Good old uncle Rhino, saving the coming generation from being poached by brainrot
solid sun
As a rhino I’m naturally inclined to hate poaching
Last week we went outside and caught bugs and kept them in a few different makeshift habitats for just a little bit so they could watch them and then took them back out and released them into the yard
They keep asking their parents to do it with them lol
They’re so mad
cerulean tusk
toxic pewter
lusty grotto
coarse bay
solid sun
I will try to get in Friday night a little early to see if I can get any gear for the Hunter
I don’t wanna be so baby I just explode in the dungeon
lament osprey
I want bear and vdh to be put into the ground
round pendant
They keep asking their parents to do it with them lol
oh no my kids want to do fun activities with me and I can't just stick them in front of the ipad????
solid sun
oh no my kids want to do fun activities with me and I can't just stick them in f...
lol they always act like they’re too busy.
undone beacon
what did bear ever do to you
round pendant
now I ain't saying this is the situation for them
but putting kids in front of tech and just ignoring them has gotta eventually turn out to be recognised as a form of neglect right
lusty grotto
banning tech is also bad, but i agree
the best things parents can do is be present, and interact with them as they are watching
for example i ask my nephews questions very basic ones as they are watching something
like "is that a bear?" and they reply
things like that
but if they have tv/ipads as baby sitters... thats really unfortunate
at some point you gotta ask yourself why they had kids to begin with
aside from oopsies
lusty grotto
round pendant
Really bugs me when people treat their kids like they're some nuisance
toxic pewter
thjat me
toxic pewter
😄
solid sun
Yeah interacting with them is so huge. We put some educational games on the iPad we do have and we let her play with it a bit while we sit there and engage with what’s going on
Now granted I am an extremely funny daddy
So maybe that’s why it’s so fun for her
Not every daddy has my comedic chops 
solid sun
Ghash so privileged
warm plinth
Nah tablets cost more than ps2 tbh lol
lusty grotto
uhh
idk about that
consoles gain value over time
especially after covid shit went up
my genesis nomad went into the 900 dollar range
mighty valley
next year tablets will cost 21000 dollars and your right lung
lusty grotto
if ddr5 and ssd prices keep increasing, people will look into playing older games as well so thats also a thing
upbeat plover
Hold onto your ram sticks and you might just be able to afford a house
agile elbow
Take the Steam Deck for example. Thing is completely sold out with no restock in sight because of RAM shortages.
solid sun
I’ll never be able to upgrade my pc
agile elbow
PS6 likely delayed further due to this. Prices on Switch and current gen consoles are slated to rise as well just because of the memory issue.
toxic pewter
huh?
just download more ram
that wat i do
thres a website i go to
every couple weeks
works well
warm plinth
I was playing Playstation 2 when I was like 12 and 13. Any tablets that existed then were probably e-readers and cost a buttload
agile elbow
It’s very much moving in the direction of having to utilize some sort of cloud gaming platform moving forward because it won’t really be feasible to upgrade or buy a new PC without taking out a fucking loan. 
I remember when TVs were expensive. Now you can get a 56 inch for like 250 bucks. Once upon a time that would have gotten you like a 24 or 32 inch of a shitty off brand.
Wild times boys and girls.
mighty valley
It's insane to think of the tiny screens I played games on growing up
With 4 player split screen???
dusky canopy
My buds and I did 4 player halo on a (roughly) 32 inch
Also Mario kart
CoD private matches too that was fun
toxic pewter
mario kart split screen so fun
lusty grotto
goldeneye bruh
lusty grotto
you mean the james bond theme
toxic pewter
hold on letm e find it not sure its in other james bond's
oh its the 'watch theme' when u open the watch
love that
toxic pewter
yeah it is now that yo umention it
lusty grotto
because tina turner did the theme song
toxic pewter
just so good
lusty grotto
but the theme song was not in game, that i recall
toxic pewter
i wonder who the next actor to play bond will be
apparently Callum Turner is the new bond... u heard it here first folks
lusty grotto
why not, they handled Jack Ryan very well
Halo wasnt amazon
that was paramount
if anything you mean LotR
toxic pewter
I actually thought season 2 lord of the rings it got a lot better
lusty grotto
i havent watched it
cunning oriole
Well, that's a third rail I didn't want to touch. And I thought Paramount was being pushed by Amazon...my mistake
lusty grotto
but Amazon did Jack Ryan extremely well, and Reacher as well
and they have a lot of good things on their belt like The Boys, Gen V, Invincible
toxic pewter
Oh the episodes of reacher I watched were great
lusty grotto
they do have some stinkers but
lets just hope they dont ruin it heh
besides we've had bad Bond movies before so its not gonna be a end-all-be-all thing
toxic pewter
It will be great I trust director
He made solid dune films
Word on street the film may harken back to bonds early days before he was 007
lusty grotto
im worried about the guy's accent
toxic pewter
A lot of people don’t want to see bond before he 007
lusty grotto
ah wait turner is english
i saw some news they had a fellow American in mind
and i was like uhhhh....
mighty valley
My buds and I did 4 player halo on a (roughly) 32 inch
ooh la la, the luxury
real gaming took place on a 13" tv-vcr combo
lusty grotto
mighty valley
i think i like casino royale the most because it's got the least bond bullshit lol
skyfall was overall good, but... it had a higher ratio of bond bullshit
lusty grotto
both of them are stand outs though
mighty valley
honestly didn't see the other craig movies, it took a lot of good recommendations to get me to see a movie in those years
and those movies
did not receive recommendations
lusty grotto
pierce brosnan era: tomorrow never dies is probably the best one, followed by goldeneye
good villain and plot, jonathan pryce was great
lusty grotto
connery/dalton/moore eras i just have nostalgia so cant accurately rate em
solid sun
Goldeneye is the best one
But that’s probably mostly because of the game
And that’s cheating
But I also don’t care
solid sun
Goldfinger probably the best ever
lusty grotto
ah yes lazenby
lusty grotto
LOL
solid sun
Well he has at least one movie that I think is widely accepted as the best one he was ever in
I figured harrow would drop some wisdom about how there aren’t any good bond movies
I was a little disappointed
mighty valley
honestly I haven't seen the old ones since I was a child
the idea of a bond movie doesn't really excite me nowadays
hence why i think my faves are casino royale etc that have the most overlap with my actual taste
solid sun
I think I have you identified as a huge matrix buff
Casino is definitely very similar to matrix
solid sun
toxic pewter
i enjoyed goldeneye the best for brosnan
i mean Trevelyan alone
sean bean
he owned
and the soundtrack
natalia
all of it
just owned hard
solid sun
Bean is so good at playing characters ||who die||
solid sun
You own
toxic pewter
daring marlin
Bean is so good at playing characters ||who die||
walking spoiler
round pendant
dw about pc component prices
unless you need one RIGHT NOW just chill
the bubble will pop
mighty valley
the bubble will pop
do you promise
round pendant
yes
mighty valley
what's the next bubble do you think
the modern financial system gets very sad when there's not a bubble to inflate
round pendant
the modern financial system gets very sad when there's not a bubble to inflate
almost like the whole thing is a sham
mighty valley
no... that can't be true...
coarse bay
almost like the whole thing is a sham
No way :0 what spec?
fathom oasis
Warden
mighty valley
we've tried one thing and we're out of ideas
uh oh, getting political
vault pic. talent choice
mighty valley
yeah, price spikes help them stress test how much they can charge forever
just provides cover to them
upbeat plover
New prices become the "great deals"
toxic pewter
LOVE A GOOD DEAL
solid sun
When we all live in the wilderness in the mountains none of this will matter
Our entertainment will come from contests surrounding who makes the best gumbo or who can shoot a can from the furthest distance
lusty grotto
and alcohol of course
toxic pewter
Our entertainment will come from contests surrounding who makes the best gumbo o...
omg that reminds me i have some gumbo i gotta eat for dinner
dusky canopy
@lusty grotto I’m so ready to pull up to xal'atath’s purple fortress with my big sword in hand ready to smash! 😎
Arms owns 
lusty grotto
undone beacon
lusty grotto
dusky canopy
Laugh right back fuckem
toxic pewter
every1 alway laugh at lil ol me
round pendant
When the bubble pops, it'll probably still be higher than now
well when the bubble pops the whole us economy goes down with it
people won't be buying shit for it to remain that expensive
that's my cope
coarse bay
vault pic. talent choice
My vaults yesterday were a little bit of gold
Not even any mog
upbeat plover
people won't be buying shit for it to remain that expensive
But you won't have money to buy things at the lower prices
GGs
coral quartz
Hi guys I was following wowheads guide in terms of rotation I had a look at icy veins last night seemed to be some differences. Is one of them out date?
lusty grotto
what differences specifically
our core rotation has not changed since DF
or even beyond that
coral quartz
So I believe it was to do with shield block and timing it with weapon swings
lusty grotto
which guide has this
thats very min maxy
which is not something we worry about
you do want SB up when youre getting hit
and to limit usage when youre not
but it is very easy to keep up regardless
with the proper talents and haste
jagged pier
lusty grotto
if youre lacking haste though
jagged pier
is he every talking about retail?
lusty grotto
you will need to micromanage it just a tiny bit
coral quartz
But yeah I was kind of always prioritising having shield block up and shield slamming
Icy veins
lusty grotto
well thats accurate, but its not something you should focus on
what you should focus on is keeping SB up while getting hit
coral quartz
Im looking to main prot for the first time always dabbled but never took the plunge
Is it worth keeping up whilst not getting hit for the shield slam
Damage increase?
lusty grotto
dont complicate SB, just keep it up
yes
but also because its our core defensive, which is the most important part
like mwahi mentions there: that optimization is not super important
coral quartz
Okay thank you
lusty grotto
if SB uptime talents get nerfed though, it'll be but thats neither here or there
unreal yarrow
Since other classes got their uptimes buffed, I doubt it will be an issue for us until some major rework of tanking
lusty grotto
yup
dusky canopy
@lusty grotto
I’m failing with this link ffs
It’s cool click tho dw!
Bruh
It won’t not have the link at the top
Lmao
solid sun
That song takes me back
solid sun
He’s def on Mobile
lusty grotto
o
dusky canopy
Yes let me click and drag it from my other screen into the mobile text box
solid sun
I’m on mobile too
Just touch tips with me
I think that’s how you drag images on mobile
round pendant
solid sun
“This is my moment” energy
round pendant
what
upbeat plover
Got one of those wives, I get chu
solid sun
upbeat plover
Mine says Tenor
cerulean tusk
upbeat plover
Mobile GGs
undone beacon
They're phasing out Tenor because their contract expired, everyone will be either Giphy or Klipy by like, June*
solid sun
Are we tribal about gif search libraries
solid sun
Or is there only one good one
lusty grotto
klipy doesnt have zoolander computer gif
and i think i couldnt find one or two the other day
solid sun
mighty valley
i'm still a desktop tenor boy
mighty valley
i will enjoy it while i still can
solid sun
Did you do that one on mobile
cerulean tusk
Or is there only one good one
The other ones, at least giphy, got so few gifs (that aint facebook mom ones) - that you are forced to go to tenor to find a gif
it is grim
undone beacon
cerulean tusk
best I could do
undone beacon
https://giphy.com/gifs/cute-sad-heart-xUn3Cuayeo8RTX23sI
thats rough buddy
cerulean tusk
lusty grotto
yeah ik
round pendant
😔
lusty grotto
i wonder what stupid ass pivot they are doing lmao
upbeat plover
Pay per view gifs
round pendant
They probably want people to search on the website itself and copypaste from there
so you can see ads
upbeat plover
😎
round pendant
but nobody is going to do that
lusty grotto
yeah SEO type shit ig
round pendant
it's kind of just a fundamentally bad business
lusty grotto
kinda strange because if people migrate their gifs over because they cant find em on discord...
dusky canopy
I will dead stop using gifs if the expectation is for me to go view and find them on an ad infested website. They can absolutely kiss my ass I hate ads
round pendant
idk why discord doesn't host it's own gif service
lusty grotto
money
round pendant
they'd definitely make it nitro only tho
dusky canopy
Oh you know it too
lusty grotto
its just an additional expense they dont need to have
dusky canopy
This company isn’t hurting for revenue
round pendant
well actually tbf idk if they cache it or if it's some weird forwarding thing
this shit
round pendant
This company isn’t hurting for revenue
I get the feeling discord isn't profitable at all
round pendant
classic
upbeat plover
Well google is hurting for money you see
round pendant
buy something, kill it
most tech services are just grifts
Make something kinda popular but isn't profitable, get bought, buyers are like wait shit this isn't profitable
lusty grotto
round pendant
then they kill it trying to turn it profitable
lusty grotto
so i guess we need to wait for klipy to grow
thats such a weird message though
"Wow. Anyway heres my thing that can replace it!"
dusky canopy
Sly dog
round pendant
free advertisement
drowsy comet
whats going on here
lusty grotto
we're discussing dn
dusky canopy
I’d imagine klipy will take off in days the second tenor is gone
solid sun
Love dn
lusty grotto
dusky canopy
DeezNaughts
drowsy comet
we're discussing dn
Deez Nuts
round pendant
whats going on here
Cover your eyes, lil gup
dusky canopy
Zoom along lil one
drowsy comet
Cover your eyes, lil gup
no flirting or we going the next step.. 
then im totally gone 
solid sun
Zwei
lusty grotto
what in the heck
solid sun
What’s the new Harry Potter these days
dusky canopy
6 or 7 I think
solid sun
Is it this Percy Jackson fella
dusky canopy
undone beacon
fortnite banana
drowsy comet
solid sun
What’s Fortnite banana
round pendant
whats going on here
drowsy comet
youtube is being so fucking slow too
wifi issue
lusty grotto
ligma issue
drowsy comet
Nim today kinda mean out there smh
warm plinth
@undone beacon @solid sun @daring marlin @coarse bay
Do you know what creation was vastly more useful than the first telephone?
||The second telephone.||
dusky canopy
Lmao
lusty grotto
i dont have words
warm plinth
I'm sorry I genuinely forgot I said that
undone beacon
warm plinth
Didn't mean to leave you guys hanging
solid sun
Hung up on us
warm plinth
Ba-dum-tiss
dusky canopy
clicks reply message
time 9:30pm yesterday
dies
drowsy comet
where is the cool mod, im kinda bored lol
warm plinth
Cool mod?
solid sun
@upbeat plover your child is asking about you
warm plinth
Stormforged aren't mods
solid sun
Hey @ionic fern thanks for your insightful words of wisdom to the world leaders about how to fix hunger
Coolest dude
dusky canopy
Mwahi owns!
drowsy comet
I actually meant Leland, but Mwahi is fine too
ionic fern
<@238357283996696576> hi ily
Hei, ily.
ionic fern
Hey <@238357283996696576> thanks for your insightful words of wisdom to the worl...
You're welcome. Hope they listen.
Feels like i missed something, ngl.
upbeat plover
<@153230384497295361> your child is asking about you
He's still in his rebellious phase
solid sun
Actually looking at the mods, I never see most of them
Who are they? Where did they go?
round pendant
Who are they? Where did they go?
more importantly, How are they?
upbeat plover
Yeah I'm fake mod
round pendant
drowsy comet
He's still in his rebellious phase
HUH
lusty grotto
Who are they? Where did they go?
they be dpsing
solid sun
Naeno has a fun name
Not sure they are real
There’s both a Vel and a Vil
Obviously siblings
coarse bay
Rhino is pretty cool too, daddy energy frfr ong
upbeat plover
undone beacon
Rhino gives the best daddy downs
solid sun
Wadner has a discord tag that says they love casting spells
wtf
Why the hell is a wizard a skyhold mod
solid sun
I do try to give quality daddy downs
And Zwei, I’m a dad. I probably do give off dad vibes
drowsy comet
round pendant
dusky canopy
If a fire fighter needs to know something what do they say to you?
drowsy comet
i could never bully anyone
round pendant
drowsy comet
If a fire fighter needs to know something what do they say to you?
Sup
undone beacon
drowsy comet
https://tenor.com/view/boots-on-the-ground-boots-on-the-ground-gif-boots-on-the-...
meanwhile someone has set their house on fire
upbeat plover
https://tenor.com/view/boots-on-the-ground-boots-on-the-ground-gif-boots-on-the-...
My tax dollars are dancing away
drowsy comet
solid sun
Firefighters are only allowed to fight fires
They are never allowed to do anything else
upbeat plover
Nah, they're starting fires with moves that hot
lusty grotto
fair
dusky canopy
coarse bay
ionic fern
Actually looking at the mods, I never see most of them
They are all lurking.
dusky canopy
Tmy raging over midnight prune
drowsy comet
They are all lurking.
Do they get paid atleast for lurking
ionic fern
Why do you think the crypto "scammers" and free gift cards get deleted so fast?
All money in the admin pockets.
dusky canopy
Harandar looks sick!!
ionic fern
Stealing all those gift cards.
coarse bay
I never catch the mr beast giveaways or crypto opportunities in skyhold
No slackers here
drowsy comet
Why do you think the crypto "scammers" and free gift cards get deleted so fast?
because of a programmed bot
undone beacon
mwAhI
coarse bay
because of a programmed bot <:peepohide:841312329424437298>
From what ive seen in some other discords, the bots are very quick to get around the bots anyways, they seem to always require manual action
drowsy comet
bots against bots smh
toxic pewter
I will say skyhold mods and admins run a tight ship
notify them and action is swift and just
cerulean tusk
I dunno
I seen things, PvP things, many things, unspeakable in all but the "eepiest" and "agro" ways of speachs
horrors beyond the veil
lookin in
toxic pewter
make them stop
cerulean tusk
looking back
dusky canopy
Bro are you getting smoked in the pvps
cerulean tusk
dusky canopy
Hollyy smokes what’s this crimson desert game I just caught a glimpse of!?
dusky canopy
Looks kinda sick do we think it’ll flop?
lusty grotto
flop for everybody
upbeat plover
There are still many modern successes
toxic pewter
in this game
lusty grotto
r u winning son
toxic pewter
so deranged
upbeat plover
Look for the right games
cerulean tusk
Apb
toxic pewter
im LOSIN IT
cerulean tusk
just stop
toxic pewter
IM RAGING
cerulean tusk
being
toxic pewter
I CANT
cerulean tusk
bad
toxic pewter
dude came and assaninated me
lusty grotto
apb ganking and peoples mad
toxic pewter
at the love fair
dusky canopy
I hope I can have a massive 2h sword in this game the length of my character
upbeat plover
Apb, plays furry prot in pvp don't you?
toxic pewter
Apb, plays furry prot in pvp don't you?
nah i play arms and fury in pvp
mighty valley
apb's so mad he can't spell no more
cerulean tusk
Wouldnt happen to me
toxic pewter
right now playing fury tho
upbeat plover
nah i play arms and fury in pvp
Still a Vulpera. I found the source
toxic pewter
Still a Vulpera. I found the source
yeah unironically i thnink this is it
upbeat plover
yeah unironically i thnink this is it
Deserved tbh
toxic pewter
so i was fighting A LOT at the love is in the air area in feralas
lusty grotto
welp i cant help you
toxic pewter
then went back to ddurotar
lusty grotto
time for u to go in the grave
toxic pewter
im goin back to leveling my gnome
toxic pewter
Deserved tbh
surely my gnome will not be laughed at...
lusty grotto
the rattiest
toxic pewter
you know what
im making a human warrior for the first time
maybe that is what I was meant to be this whole time
cerulean tusk
toxic pewter
goin to moonguard
toxic pewter
makin a kul tiran no one can laugh at a kul tiran
toxic pewter
apb send me in coach
come fight i am goin alliance
coarse bay
Is that THE ashbringer???
toxic pewter
ohhh
lusty grotto
sad female belf
toxic pewter
ok put on warmode and lets do it
upbeat plover
surely my gnome will not be laughed at...
toxic pewter
i got confused
toxic pewter
[COPIUM](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/951430488780865596.png?quality=lossle...
lol
dusky canopy
im making a human warrior for the first time
W move
toxic pewter
like what if I was always meant to be human
all thse years goin on about the races
and racials
lusty grotto
wait this is so weird, i knew i had the mage tower equipped and here it is, but the warband screen only shows the og boomer one
dusky canopy
Bro that’s a hot sword dayum
lusty grotto
i gotta be honest apb, i have 0 pvp gear LMAO
toxic pewter
how do i even inv u
ill dm u my bnet
all good like even in heroic pve gear can be decent
and crap
me and nim have found the assassin
but they are abusing phase mechanics at org gates
LOL
tribal wharf
toxic pewter
lol
i dunno
but i average like
1 rage whisper every so often
i have screenshots of many
toxic pewter
Lolol
eternal glade
got me some alchemical chaos flasks. any others i should get?
eternal glade
i wouldnt buy consumes 2 weeks to go for midnight release
you got a good point. i'll jsut use what i have
lusty grotto
found it legion @toxic pewter
eternal glade
also, i managed to refine my rotation. just working on my shield block uptime 🙂 thanks for your pointers liek a week ago!
toxic pewter
found it legion <@185160009074737153>
Ooh actually good to know didn’t realize was there
eternal glade
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im basically able to pull the dps i should be (not that prot warrior is a dps tank), and have no issues holding agro
lusty grotto
all tanks are dps tanks
eternal glade
im currently at around 80-85% uptime for shieldblock
lusty grotto
yeah that needs work
you wanna have 90%+ effective uptime but the only real way to see that is in logs
so i suggest logging and we can show you where to look (its not in aura uptime)
eternal glade
yeah im trying to iron it out. i dont think im timing my SB and shield charge correctly
i'll try to figure out logs and how they work at some point today
lusty grotto
you can stack duration on SB, so youre not losing a whole lot
but it does have a cap
3 times the duration SB
eternal glade
just to verify, would it be better to use both SB's at the start of a pull and hit shield charge then start popping SB when it allows me? ive been popping one, doing dps, then doing another then shield charge
eternal glade
maybe not optimal?
lusty grotto
because it depends on the duration of the pull
you dont wanna get used to it
so if youre tanking vault keys and stuff dies way fast, you might lose a charge
etc
does that make sense?
its perfectly fine to do though, just dont get used to it
eternal glade
mostly looking at it from a raid boss perspective.
and you mean that as in using a charge but not getting return on it due to a pack being killed too fast, and not having it for the next pull/boss?
lusty grotto
yea
if its for raid purposes then you can be fine depending on how fast are tank swaps
SB uptime changes a bit in raid
eternal glade
yeah that makes sense. and honestly, during trash, i slack a little on my shield blocks
lusty grotto
you want to only cast SB to not cap number of SBs while youre not tanking
eternal glade
if its for raid purposes then you can be fine depending on how fast are tank swa...
hm. is it maybe not beneficial to keep SB up while doing off-tank?
lusty grotto
yea
thats what i meant
its still beneficial to use, cause it increases SS damage
just dont overuse it
eternal glade
just dont max it, save charge for swap
lusty grotto
next exp we probably wont have big haste right off the bat so SB cd will be long
but yeah thats kind of it
eternal glade
that clears a lot of it up for me. appreciate it
trying to push myself to be the best i can be. trying to get into the mythic raid stuff, possibly high keys
lusty grotto
try your best to set up logging whenever you can, it'll help a lot
especially for those goals
eternal glade
will do. i believe friday i'll be doing a mythic MFO with a potential new guild, so i'll get it setup for that. trying to find somewhere where reliance on LFG isnt a thing
eternal glade
are you NA?
yes
cerulean tusk
Execute buffs should be live today, no?
lusty grotto
is the guild called We Hold W?
lusty grotto
Execute buffs should be live today, no?
yes they are in
eternal glade
is the guild called We Hold W?
nope
lusty grotto
ok ok just making sure haha
jagged pier
Execute buffs should be live today, no?
yer but dont look at itsdamage still
lusty grotto
thats my brother's guild
cerulean tusk
yer but dont look at itsdamage still
... 11k revenge, vs 12k execute...
This is standard dev "well, it is technically a DPS increase" balanceing
eternal glade
its called Voidfall. mostly casual guild, building up a roster for midnight. ideally id like to find something thats already established, but i know my resume doesnt exactly match what im asking for
so i'll take the small steps
lusty grotto
ah you made the guild, ok ok gotcha
cerulean tusk
Can I say it, between demolish and execute nerfs, devs certainly knows how to kill anything fun
eternal glade
ah you made the guild, ok ok gotcha
hell no. i want no part in being a GM lol
i just want to play
lusty grotto
execute is worth casting, jakey might mean because overall is still low
jagged pier
i actually dont know
cerulean tusk
if you manage to send execute at lower rage values, and avoid using it at 40 rage, it should be a DPS increase
jagged pier
i still think after the buff it still might not be worth it numbers wise tbh
lusty grotto
but you should
cerulean tusk
Nah, cause execute real dam value comes from deepwounds
So if ya spend 40 rage, ya lost the dam, ya want to get it as close to 20 rage executes as possible
Or just revenge twice
and win
lusty grotto
well you see
turns out
arterial bleed is less dps than one against many based on the tests i did these past 2 days
cerulean tusk
Yes?
That is pretty obvious
as Rev was the top dam, and now is even a bigger part after the DW nerf
lusty grotto
and realistically there's no way you could micro executes to keep dragging the bonus damage to DW around
cerulean tusk
I would recommend just not to have exe on your bars
lusty grotto
if the damage gain is sufficiently large, then maybe
eternal glade
i have exe on my bar, but i rarely touch it
cerulean tusk
Execute litteraly does 8k and 3k from the bleed, vs two revenges that do 11k
You can skip it
eternal glade
i spend most of time questioning what the mechanic is anyways. i think effeciency is off the table for me lol
lusty grotto
that also means SD
eternal glade
your numbers are higher than mine. would that maybe be from me being ilvl 149, and no enchants?
lusty grotto
ilvl and weapon
cerulean tusk
both me and Nim are maxed out
eternal glade
yeah, i havent bothered to push. started too late to push for max
but i will push max in midnight
cerulean tusk
I wouldnt worry about that at all
lusty grotto
no reason to atm
eternal glade
I would just worry about execute being shit
i worry about me being shit. so, same thing lol
blizzard needs to buff me
cerulean tusk
Just dont revenge as Col, ya will be fine
revenge?
Execute!
Man, my brain trying to make execute viable by brute force
eternal glade
screw it, im just going to spam defensives and wrecking throw
solid sun
Yeah but pressing it or not pressing it should be a math thing
cerulean tusk
this aint good enough to make a button feel good
solid sun
Not a subjective thing
cerulean tusk
If you press it optimally, it will be a DPS increase
mathematically
just the same way if I give you a 0.00001% payraise, you still got a raise, rejoice!
solid sun
Oh am I rich now
eternal glade
i dont have it in me to manage exe @ 20 rage. id rather just be lazy and press revenge for my filler
cerulean tusk
My point is more that execute feels like shit, cause it just is a marginally better button you use when it shines. Tho, with the talent investment needed, I kinda doubt it will be the play
cerulean tusk
i dont have it in me to manage exe @ 20 rage. id rather just be lazy and press r...
Remember, ya Thane, your execute isnt 11k vs 13k, but 6k vs 13k
I am Col, the real boii spec
solid sun
Well
lusty grotto
im not saying you shouldn't press it
or that you should
as thane, you definitely should
eternal glade
I am Col, the real boii spec
yadda yadda yadda, spec for spec, we both cant find our braincell anyways lol
mighty valley
it still confuses me that they fairly arbitrarily decided that colossus shouldn't be the execute hero spec
but
w/e
lusty grotto
as colossus, it depends on what we get
cerulean tusk
They clearly decided it shouldnt have burst either
I dont know what Col is supposed to be atm
solid sun
If you feel wronged because of what they did to execute, you should press revenge instead anyways because you need to get your get back
cerulean tusk
other than rev spam
lusty grotto
i dont have it in me to manage exe @ 20 rage. id rather just be lazy and press r...
youre playing thane, so dont mind the discussion
this is for colossus only
you should press execute as thane, especially SDs
if youre playing the raid spec
eternal glade
how is the gameplay on colossus anyways? more input? or relatively the same
cerulean tusk
SD is always worth, tho taking SD in itself is a question
drowsy comet
drowsy comet
monkey skateboarding
cerulean tusk
how is the gameplay on colossus anyways? more input? or relatively the same
A lot more stable rotationally, less procs to react to and resets.
Col is spam rev till you can demolish
lusty grotto
TC/exe are your big kids in thane after SS
Revenge is your big kid as colossus after SS
Thane plays like BFA/DF
Colossus plays like Legion
cerulean tusk
Rev does more dam than SS and by a bit
:)
if ya got the rage overflow
ignore slam
eternal glade
so after 20% hp i should transition from revenge as my filler to exe?
lusty grotto
thats not something a new player should focus on cat
cerulean tusk
pffftz
lusty grotto
rage gens are still the priority
lusty grotto
so after 20% hp i should transition from revenge as my filler to exe?
yes
cerulean tusk
I said rage overflow now didnt I, rat?
lusty grotto
and with SD procs
cerulean tusk
smh
lusty grotto
right im just saying it so they dont get confused
eternal glade
brother i eventually will get confused anyways. give it to me
my brain is a broken rubiks cube
lusty grotto
ok well this is a colossus discussion, as long as you have that clear
eternal glade
yes
cerulean tusk
Our discussion is extremely "doesnt matter for 90% of ppl", and 100% of is just me complaining, and it is only for Col
solid sun
Just make sure you time mob melee swings for your shield block presses
cerulean tusk
Shield... block, presses?
solid sun
Yep
solid sun
Cat isn’t ready
cerulean tusk
Rat, explain
lusty grotto
im getting arms slayer SD/jugg management ptsd with micromanaging rev at 20 rage lmao
cerulean tusk
I aint making sure to minmax executes at 20 rage, I will just not press the button
lusty grotto
"oh let me press this execute... oh wait DW is fading, SD isn't proccing!"
solid sun
Rat, explain
cerulean tusk
"do I have ravager proc up?" "do I have above 30 rage?" "are there more than 4 targets?"
Nah
lusty grotto
jugg stack ptsd, i should say
cerulean tusk
I just press revenge
cerulean tusk
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148897941883584512/1473747691753...
What the ungodly fuck is this, classic?
mighty valley
"do I have ravager proc up?" "do I have above 30 rage?" "are there more than 4 t...
i thought everyone was mad about the dumbing down of the game
ionic fern
What the ungodly fuck is this, classic?
No.
cerulean tusk
shine = press
eternal glade
I want a simple button
there ya go!
cerulean tusk
Why would I care about shieldblock uptime, that is already 100% active tanking?
ionic fern
It's information.
cerulean tusk
I guess?
ionic fern
Why would I care about shieldblock uptime, that is already 100% active tanking?
It's not,depending on scenarios.
lusty grotto
also it helps for raid in the first season when haste is low
eternal glade
wait. hold up
cerulean tusk
I shieldcharge in, and from there on SB stays up
eternal glade
i can time my shield block for attacks?!
ionic fern
Is it something you actively focus on? Ofc not. That's also mentioned there. But it's something to know.
cerulean tusk
In theory, sure
mighty valley
I shieldcharge in, and from there on SB stays up
wasted charge rage...
lusty grotto
i hope youre pressing avatar before it 🙂
eternal glade
ya know you can charge and shieldcharge?
shield charge is my "oh shit" button
mighty valley
wasted damage from no demo shout...
lusty grotto
^
cerulean tusk
Interesting, you use it as an oshit button?
Like how - to get out?
to get shieldblock up?
lusty grotto
dont forget ravager harrow, if cat is playing that
cerulean tusk
dont forget ravager harrow, if cat is playing that
proc go burrrr
solid sun
To be clear, the only reason I find that piece of info funny is because I’ll never be good enough or smart enough to ever make use of, and I cope with my inadequacy through laughter
mighty valley
i use it point blank after gathering
eternal glade
to get shieldblock up?
this lol. for when i fuck up and lose my shield block and charges are on CD
ya boi is still figuring it out
eternal glade
I wont judge ya for it, if it works for ya it works
you want the honest answer?
cerulean tusk
sure
eternal glade
it doesnt work. if it wasnt for a healer, id be dead lol
ionic fern
Send cooldowns on cooldown.
lusty grotto
ideally you want to use SC with cds though