protection

[hardy snow]

doom when we are after RWF and no buffs

[lusty grotto]

cause its 8s which is like what 4 GCDs of Rev or TC?

[vivid orchid]

blizzard is disgustingly inconsistent with their wording

so you must verify everything

[lusty grotto]

true

[cerulean tusk]

4-5, yepyep, and rev does a LOT of dam

[lusty grotto]

its good for damage amps

for sure

[vivid orchid]

so anyway yes ravager procs do increase rev/tc dam

[round pendant]

Game sux

[lusty grotto]

as an added cd

but honestly for keys, eh

[cerulean tusk]

It is just solid dam no matter when it hits, as you spam rev all day atm

[lusty grotto]

yes we know chamberloin

[cerulean tusk]

also, rev itself just goes to narnia

it went up every terrain part it could find that run

Didnt even try to track mobs

Rev? Rav*

[round pendant]

Revenge needs a better sfx and a better animation and to be 360

[cerulean tusk]

no

[round pendant]

Yes

[solid sun]

We should block in a 360

[round pendant]

I am right.

[cerulean tusk]

I dont want ppl to go full brain and die to backhits

[vivid orchid]

logs dont seem to track the ravager buff

[round pendant]

I'll cave on the 360 part

[lusty grotto]

funky does have a point

sorry, cat

[solid sun]

If we could block in a 360 it’d be fine

[round pendant]

They should add a talent that makes block 360 but nerfs you a bit

Good for baby tank players

Peepocute

[cerulean tusk]

It had to be hell of a nerf to blockvalue to make it not a must pick to avoid stray backhits

[vivid orchid]

just wear a second shield on your back instead of a cloak

[round pendant]

Stray back hits don't really murder you tho

[lusty grotto]

ngl yam but everyone would pick it

not just baby warriors

[cerulean tusk]

Basically only thing that can really put you in danger

[round pendant]

It just happens it's not that big of a deal

Consistent back hits are the danger

[cerulean tusk]

[round pendant]

You take a back hit here and there it's whatever it's not killing you

[hardy snow]

just dont turn your back to enemy, ez

[round pendant]

You let a pack of mobs backhit you, you're dead

It's easily avoided and worth learning so you can be buffed compared to the 360 block node

[cerulean tusk]

you can get a feel of its uptime by looking at Rav dam uptime

best way I can find to check

[vivid orchid]

yeah just overlaying ravager damage events works enough

[cerulean tusk]

kinda weird it aint flagged tho

[half jewel]

Why wear armor on your back if you can't use it to block?!?! 🤔

[vivid orchid]

its probably a warcraft logs thing if its in the log itself

[mighty valley]

damn, i was sure that the revenge proc was the incentive to take the active version

[vivid orchid]

nope

[cerulean tusk]

Sadly not, this proc play is a huge "talk of the town" for certain communities

[vivid orchid]

active version just concentrates a damage window but the proc version likely still better due to higher average rage

[cerulean tusk]

I just let it happen if it happens, and press buttons no matter what

[lusty grotto]

the proc IS better

i just said that like 15 mins ago

[mighty valley]

i'm so sorry to say this, but this is a very apb way to phrase this

[cerulean tusk]

What you on about rat?

Noone said the proc is worse, I believe?

[lusty grotto]

ravager can be solid on damage amp phases, if they arent just one

[mighty valley]

i sort of did since i assumed they'd tacked the damage amp onto the active version to make it more appealing. but i was incorrect

[cerulean tusk]

If you know you know

[cerulean tusk]

Fair, it is a kinda "logical" thing to be in, to make Rav CD more of a thing

My initial thought was the same, dont worry

[vivid orchid]

I also thought that given how blizzard makes this game sometimes

turns out they did the logical thing with this one

[cerulean tusk]

They prob intended it to, but couldnt get it to work right with the code, and just went "meh, good enough for goverment work"

[round pendant]

I love that we all have different opinions

it's very peepocute to see kitty getting worked up over demolish's position

among other things

[ivory barn]

hey guys, this code leads to a blank tree

[lusty grotto]

what code is that?

or website

[ivory barn]

Prot FAQ here in discord

[lusty grotto]

@ionic fern

[round pendant]

It shall be fixed

[lusty grotto]

just go to wowhead

[ivory barn]

They wanted to do a quick heroic clear of Manaforged and was going after it

[lusty grotto]

yeah just play the wowhead builds

[cerulean tusk]

[ivory barn]

sounds good, ty

[solid sun]

Cat is about to enact their revenge if demolish doesn’t get buffed bigly

[toxic pewter]

I AM TRIPLE THREAT

whO ELSE IS TRIPLE THREAT

[lusty grotto]

i did it last season

so im not bothering to in this one

[toxic pewter]

is the title temporary to the season

[lusty grotto]

nah

[toxic pewter]

cuz it aint showin up for me

oh lul

uner 'the' derp

thought it would be 'triple threat name'

what healer did you play just out of curiosity

[lusty grotto]

hpal

[toxic pewter]

nice

[undone beacon]

yeah i did hpal triple threat in S2

Saw the title was the same

said nah

[toxic pewter]

yah im late to the party but def wanted the title

[lusty grotto]

congrats!

[toxic pewter]

thank you

would be cool if they came up with new title names yeah lol

maybe they will do it on expansion time frame

[tribal wharf]

he can't possibly fathom that cast iron exists

[round pendant]

biggest disappointment of s3 for me

[toxic pewter]

yah is pretty lame

[undone beacon]

does anyone know how to turn off the annoying blizz quick join popups

these things

[round pendant]

I've never seen that thing before in my life

[undone beacon]

they give me agita

[coarse bay]

I still did triple threat again in s3, but i think it wouldve happened without trying anyways cuz i was bored

[undone beacon]

i dont wanna heal m+ again

im sure running them all on 10s rn is piss easy snoozefest but

meh

[cerulean tusk]

Lets be real, you simply dont got what it takes

[toxic pewter]

Ngl I had more fun healing than I expected

[coarse bay]

Idk healing is fun and chill

Just follow and zone out

[undone beacon]

idk it freaks me out

i feel turbo responsible for everything

hpal seems p chill rn tho

[coarse bay]

Lmao im such a passenger as heals

Hpal is cool

Ive wanted to learn rdruid since legion, i might in midnight

Healing’s just very different so it would help with boredom

So jealous of druids tbh, they got a whole new race just for them and all it cost them is a sheet of bugs

[lusty grotto]

the one healer i cant play is MW

everything else ive played

well rsham is another one but that one doesnt make my brain blue screen

the other one ive barely played i mean

[lean aurora]

Pres Evoker hurts in a way that I enjoy.

[lusty grotto]

[fleet flicker]

is that like ligma?

[vital vale]

I played rsham for triple threat and I felt like I could just press a healing totem on cd while watching a TV show on the other monitor

but then again I only did 10s

still tho the most challenging part was creating mouse over macros for every single spell

[mighty valley]

isn't mouseover casting a default option now.....??

[vital vale]

idk last I healed was in legion and I was only gonna do 8 dungeons so I didn't do much research 😅

point is that totemic was very easy, which is a good thing I guess

need an entry level healer for sure

[sharp gale]

if they didn’t change it, it is weird with some spells, but yes you can open a mouseover window to select spells, kinda like clique

I tried to use it in S2 but I couldn’t press some of my spells like the instant cast purple hot on rdruid

[vivid orchid]

mouseover macros have more granular control over what works and how, and the interface option for it just kinda does it wholesale which you may not always want

[sharp gale]

Yeah if it still has the same issues I encountered I wouldn’t use the default one, do macros or use clique

[remote ocean]

does anyone know why sometimes I get 2 charges of heroic leap? what causes it i mean.

[jagged pier]

Evoker spell

[remote ocean]

oh. bastards driving me mad. ty.

[spare tartan]

time to start playing dps again amist no changes.

[drowsy comet]

Warlock in D2 woooo

[unkempt hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-s4-homelander-cough-disgust-gif-15540398707739933423

[drowsy comet]

ITS DIABLO 2-

The actual good diablo

[unkempt hazel]

oh

thought u meant destiny 2

carry on then

[drowsy comet]

Imagine playing Destiny 2 in the big 2026 🫩

smh

[unkempt hazel]

ikr

[drowsy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-13669406505701813608

[toxic pewter]

This actually one of my favorite new additions. It’s great for getting going on healing specs

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/diablo-favourite-videogames-npUjYqaMrYTjW

[jagged pier]

U have to turn it on but its a setting

And i think for some reason it doesnt work with everything

[dusky canopy]

Is that any good?

I didn’t play Diablo until 3

[drowsy comet]

you come from the time this game released, and you ask me (a 20y/o sexy guy) if the game is good. Ofc it is, this game is slaps. Tho I havent bought the expansion myself yet

im watching it on twitch and it really looks good

[dusky canopy]

Lmao I’d play it probably Diablo gameplay owns

[drowsy comet]

D2R looks too good ngl. Last time I played it was on Xbox, then when I moved to PC it was one of the first games I bought lol

@dusky canopy tho Diablo 2 is a slower ARPG, but can be quite challenging. But it is really worth every cent

[dusky canopy]

Is warrior cool in d2

[drowsy comet]

Barbarian? Yea its alright

im more of a necro/pala guy in D2 tho

[round pendant]

d2 is the best arpg

I've barely played it

and then poe is the next best and what everyone should be playing

(not poe 2)

[drowsy comet]

yea poe2 feels like a nothingburger, each league you get hyped, but the overall game is like meh. Good for what it is but still

[toxic pewter]

I played diablo 2 back in the day

so good

[drowsy comet]

u probably even played it on release

[toxic pewter]

yes I did actually

one of the best games ever made

I was owning noobs in d2 b4 u were even born

i wonder if theres a way to recover my old account

[pastel summit]

Blizz usually fairly helpful if you can remember the email.

Or have anything associated with it, really.

Email usually easiest.

Actually did d2 even have email tied to it

[toxic pewter]

heh that is a great question

[pastel summit]

Know a guy who lost his old wow acc in 2007 thought it was gone forever but remembered the email and had old payment info and recovered it.

[toxic pewter]

Yah another issue is not even sure the original diablo 2 servers exist anymore.. I think its all jsut d2 ressurection or whatever

[tribal wharf]

what the hell

so they are selling a d2 class for 30 bucks now

son of a bitch

[dusky canopy]

Is the game “remastered”

[tribal wharf]

ressurected

[dusky canopy]

Ressurmasterected

Got it

[tribal wharf]

well, i still have to get a gpu

and hard drives

and desk, maybe chair

have to is exagurated, but it'd be nice

[solid sun]

Dressed my daughter up like an old grandma for 100th day of school today

Said “I don’t feel old like dad”

Shut up little kid you don’t even know anything you’re just a baby

[dusky canopy]

🤣

[tribal wharf]

roasted by your own kid

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-roasted-the-office-michael-scott-gif-9210948

[round pendant]

It's not a BAD game

It's just nothing compared to poe 1

but poe is one of the greatest games of all time so

hard to live up to that

[toxic pewter]

i dunno path of exile just so damn complicated i guess im too old cannot process it all

the talent tree alone so intimidating to me

i cannot even handle it

[drowsy comet]

nah

[dusky canopy]

Bro just copy paste the wowhead like 99% of the player base

[drowsy comet]

its a good game, but the community is toxic af

[dusky canopy]

Oh Poe

[undone beacon]

POE more like pee oh wee

i just woke up

[toxic pewter]

[dusky canopy]

Bro just copy paste the path building like 99% of the player base

[drowsy comet]

Game´s mid

[toxic pewter]

ngl didnt even consider this lmao

[undone beacon]

Zwei is that yet another pfp

[drowsy comet]

No ur delulu

[undone beacon]

[drowsy comet]

i have nearly 100 pfps :)

[dusky canopy]

Damn that Druid claw looks sick reminds me of Xavier

[undone beacon]

I used to be like you and change PFPs all the time

Now I just stick with this one

Cuz its cute

[round pendant]

How is the community toxic

lol

If you're willing to learn, the people in that community are very helpful lil gups

[drowsy comet]

bunch of [mean word] people. Especially when it comes to early on in the league, trust me I have experienced it all

[drowsy comet]

two faced community

[round pendant]

I've mostly only ever had a positive time with poe players

There's ofc a rotten portion but that goes for every game

[unkempt hazel]

I've only had one exprience with poe community

the toucan

[round pendant]

And the community has no bearing on the quality of the game

[unkempt hazel]

otherwise i didnt engage with it

[round pendant]

Just copy builds and try to understand how they function and you'll learn a lot

then eventually you can homebrew your own build

[toxic pewter]

also the loot system / skill system is very strange to me and I disliked it

like how abilities tied to loot

or somethin

[round pendant]

I kinda try to do the gigabrain expensive builds nowadays so I still end up copying builds

but I could feasibly make a build that can do all the content to a decent level atp

[round pendant]

idk what this could mean

[unkempt hazel]

I end every season like a little bit after actually reaching the maps

lol

[round pendant]

yeah that's how it goes with poe

each league you do a bit better than last time

[toxic pewter]

dont items you wear change how abilities work

am i wrong on that

[unkempt hazel]

nah I just get bored by the time im done with story

[round pendant]

yeah you gotta learn to go fast in the campaign so you don't get burnt by it

worst part of the game by far

[unkempt hazel]

they rly should just lemme grind maps from the get go

[round pendant]

Sometimes, unique items have unique mods that can affect abilities

or influenced gear can have like "socketed gems are supported by level X faster casting" for example

[toxic pewter]

hmmm yeah I dunno I must be mistaken then I swear abilities were like learned from items or gems or something

[round pendant]

but mostly it's just the support gems you link that affect it

[toxic pewter]

oh yeah the gems

that what i disliked I guess

i dunno just felt very strange to me dunno why

[round pendant]

Yeah you have an active skill like an attack and then support gems that buff it or change how it works

like lightning arrow + greater multiple projectiles which gives it 4 more projectiles

is a simple example

[drowsy comet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/south-park-funny-wow-NaxKt9aSzAspO

okay sry thats mean

thats really mean

[round pendant]

Eh it's over 13 years

[drowsy comet]

smh

playing a game for this long

tho 2.5k hours is kinda not much then

[cerulean tusk]

2hander when he learns we played this game, for longer than he has been alive

[round pendant]

tbf I first played wow in wotlk

so not quite longer than he's been alive

but almost

[cerulean tusk]

Yam a youngling confirmed

[round pendant]

yeah I played runescape first

then I only played like a month or two of wotlk and a month of cata

then nothing til legion

then nothing til DF and I've been around since df s1 consistently

rs was cheaper and didn't require expansion costs so I didn't play wow much since I had to ask the adults to pay for my sub and we were poorge

[drowsy comet]

not true

[round pendant]

but a lot of my childhood was swapping between different games until I got addicted to CS:S, TF2 and gmod

[drowsy comet]

u played WoW when u were a teenie? woah

[round pendant]

I was like 12 yea

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/business-care-idea-Dv3sF2ZUTmVtm

[round pendant]

I wish my memory wasn't a blur though

ADHD sucks

fuck all gets stored to long term memory

[drowsy comet]

i dont think its cuz of that, maybe you only remember your childhood, in black n white

ok that was a terrible joke

damn

[round pendant]

good one

get it

cause I'm old

and old things are black and white

HA

but you're wrong

My memories are in sepia, Yogi's and the other older folk here remember in black and white

[tribal wharf]

to the guy who asked which doom to play, reason i said any of them, is because they are all more or less the same game, but some versions, some map packs, are more tolerable than others

and theres not really a right or wrong way to play a doom game

[drowsy comet]

they remember it on papyrus

[round pendant]

Their diaries are written on stone tablets

[tribal wharf]

so, why ruin the experience by playing one you dont enjoy or on a map pack or difficulty you dont enjoy lol

[round pendant]

Because the goal isn't for me to enjoy it Yogi

the goal is for me to get gamer cred

[tribal wharf]

i think doom 2 on UV is a pretty good goal

nothing overly difficult

2016 / eternal for new doom

[tribal wharf]

eternal is good too, dark ages is mixed

[round pendant]

I hate DOOM 2016

I like og doom

[tribal wharf]

doom + doom 2, doom 2 uv

[drowsy comet]

bro got a selfie with napoleon

[tribal wharf]

cuz the other versions you have will launch into dosbox

UZ doom is the best but its more technical

fork of GZ doom when dev used ai

[round pendant]

Yeah I heard about that drama

my brother's a doom enjoyer so he told me all about it

[tribal wharf]

UZ doom is basically the elvui of doom

something to that effect

doom+doom2 is the new blizzard UX

[drowsy comet]

yam got almost every doom game lol

[round pendant]

I don't even remember buying them

[drowsy comet]

cuz ur old

gottem

[round pendant]

Yup, I'm old.

[tribal wharf]

i had all - 1 -dlc achievments for DA

back in 2006 or so i had xbox 360 and i never looked back for the longest time

magic fuckin box plays video games

[round pendant]

I had a 360 and barely used it

[drowsy comet]

[round pendant]

ps2 era was the last part of console gaming I really did

pc had the multiplayer games I liked

[tribal wharf]

hook it to the wall, hook it to the tv, feed it a game disc, turn on internet and headset

boom your gaming

[round pendant]

and the old scuffed mmos I used to love

[tribal wharf]

xbox360 was amazing for simple fact of it just fucking worked

[round pendant]

until it didn't

like half of 360s red ringed lmao

Mine was in a box for like 10 years and then my little sister started using it and it red ringed within a couple years

[tribal wharf]

thats still the case yes, but, it's still one of the better consoles to mod

it can play up to n64 ish games

[round pendant]

yeah I mean it wasn't a bad console when it worked

nowhere near as good as the ps2 tho

man the ps2 was peak console gaming

[tribal wharf]

the newer models dont have that issue

as much

still dies, of course

but its way more stable in the slim onwards models, E should almost never die

you run any engine hot for 13 hours a day for 28 days of 30 days

of course it will break down

science bitch

[round pendant]

no that's not how it works

[drowsy comet]

nah Ps3 was so much better

[round pendant]

Things like capacitors and such will expire over time but they're easily replaced

fans will seize and stop working

[tribal wharf]

i still like xbox way best console

[round pendant]

but the chips have practically infinite lifetimes if they aren't faulty and don't overheat

[tribal wharf]

og xbox was incredibl

for reliable

[round pendant]

lmao

[dusky canopy]

Ps2 owned

[round pendant]

ps1 and ps2 eras are just peak

[dusky canopy]

Twisted metal 2 or 3 idr but that was a ton of fun with my old man on the ps2

And gta vice city

San Andres

[jagged pier]

Ps2 was peak

[round pendant]

god

https://klipy.com/gifs/we-have-to-go-back-3

[drowsy comet]

imagine playing pixel games smh, dont u guys had raytracing back then? smh

[jagged pier]

I had a mate at uni that had all the consoles up to current and we spend most of our time on the ps2

[tribal wharf]

i would still way more want pc than a ps2

infinite possibilities with pc

[round pendant]

well yeah pc is more versatile

[tribal wharf]

more stable

[round pendant]

but there was so many banger exclusives on ps2

wtf do you mean stable

ps2 was flawless

[toxic pewter]

that me irl

[round pendant]

saying pc is stable is just cooked too

[drowsy comet]

pc masterrace

[drowsy comet]

cant be, you´re bald

[tribal wharf]

pc is so much more stable than a console in general

[toxic pewter]

that me irl just picture it bald

[round pendant]

ps1/ps2 era is peak. So many unique IPs came out b2b2b each year and it was before the weird obsession with graphical fidelity and moviegames so there's lots of unique artstyles and innovation

[drowsy comet]

consoles nowadays suck balls, imagine having to pay to play online

[round pendant]

it really was the golden age of gaming

[tribal wharf]

if microsoft was smart

what they would do

[drowsy comet]

increase prices of games

[round pendant]

Yeah like how I need DOS emulators to play games made in the 90s vs just using my ps1

[tribal wharf]

is they would offer a 1000$ xbox and then it comes with a vr headset and the console and copy of VR microsoft flight sim

[round pendant]

pc is not stable as it's a constant evolving thing, things will stop working eventually unless you have old hardware running old software

or emulate which then stability is determined by the implementation

which are all workable problems

but there's something to plugging in my ps2 and playing ratchet and clank that just works

and will always work

[tribal wharf]

the pc im using, have the same case i had back in BFA

[round pendant]

well sure, ATX/etc standards haven't changed in decades

a case is a case

lol

and bfa was like 8 years ago

[tribal wharf]

thats what i mean and it has dual glass

and im shocked it lived even close to that long so far

[solid sun]

I was huge into Nintendo. NES, SNES, N64, GameCube. Had them all

I never thought I’d think it was so cool how I could get a game and take it home and just start playing it

No downloads and installs. Never felt like I needed to study a bunch of guides to optimize things

[tribal wharf]

if you didnt like 2016 bc it was slow feeling movment speed and slow combat

you arent alone on feeling that way, but its more managable for others

doom 3 is a bit like that too more of a focus on narration for some reason

[solid sun]

GameCube had a game called time splitters

I can’t remember if it was the first one or the second one tbh but I remember of all the fps games I had played in a while I thoroughly enjoyed it a lot

[waxen cradle]

Not even kidding I didn't read that as Timesplitters at first lol

[drowsy comet]

[solid sun]

I made it @warm plinth @undone beacon

[waxen cradle]

Nice where do Rhinos like to set at Applebee's a booth or a Tall table ?

[fair beacon]

Heyo, I got a question. I there like a discord or channel where you can find friends with specific max-level endeavors to add so you can visit their neighborhoods and buy the stuff (really tired or random rolling with public neighborhoods and them being either low level or keep repeating the same one as I already got)? 🙂

[solid sun]

Booth

[waxen cradle]

nice choice

[dusky canopy]

Damn I could go for some wings right now

[waxen cradle]

facts

[dusky canopy]

I don’t know of any off hand but maybe that’s a community discord that might take off some day who knows lol

[solid sun]

I wonder if any of those places like dungeon dojo does stuff like that

I know it isn’t dungeon content but they still seem like general own communities also

Or maybe recruiting discords or realm discords if those still exist

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-hehe-applebees-i-love-applebees-gif-13889470473923669393

[undone beacon]

Theres usually groups up in group finder with maxxed endeavors! I've found them all that way

[jagged pier]

[dusky canopy]

The apps platter was always what my wife and I would order

[undone beacon]

Gigabear has a lot in particular, usually running a group or two. Good guy

[dusky canopy]

👋

[undone beacon]

Literally pulled up group finder and in the first three

Grummles and Ethereals

[solid sun]

Are endeavors fun

[undone beacon]

I like em personally but

They're not particularly challenging

[dusky canopy]

WTH is a gummie

[undone beacon]

These little nerds

[dusky canopy]

Oh sweet!

[undone beacon]

Their endeavor stuff is like all coffee related

Ceramic mugs and bags of beans and espresso grinders

its kinda cute

[fair beacon]

under which section?

[solid sun]

Are you like hunting dudes and then it’s over

Or do you perform little odd job type dealios

[undone beacon]

Its more like you do little tasks around your neighborhood and the associated zone to earn endeavor xp and coupons

[solid sun]

Sounds wholesome. I have decided I love it

[undone beacon]

For example the Grummle one has you finding luckydos, picking coffee beans, making coffee, and beating up hozen in your neighborhood and around Kun-Lai summit

Mechagnomes has you herding robockickens, riding air vents, and combing the beach for scrap in your neighborhood, as well as going to Mechagon to kill rares, do the dailies, collect resources, etc

Theres also generic like "kill raid bosses" "do M+" "earn honor" "do delves" tasks so neighborhood haters can still contribute

[fair beacon]

thanks mate

[solid sun]

Are they soloable

Not because I necessarily want to do them alone but I assume they’ll be less popular by the time I resub

[undone beacon]

All the tasks are soloable but filling the endeavor progress bar by yourself is a heavy lift

Each endeavor only lasts a month

Then it rotates

[solid sun]

Oooo

[undone beacon]

You get personal house xp for doing tasks as well as coupons to buy the endeavor decor

Theres 5 endeavor choices active right now, presumably there will be new options next month as there are more than 5 total endeavors

Right now its Grummles, Mechagnomes, Niffen, Dracthyr, Ethereals

[fair beacon]

how many tupes of endeavors are there?

types*

[undone beacon]

Datamined theres like, at least 10 or so iirc

[fair beacon]

how many activate atm?

[undone beacon]

I know off the top of my head they datamined blood elves, mushrooms, earthen, and elementals

[fair beacon]

so far I have come across the dragons, the niffen, the mechagnome, and the grummle

[undone beacon]

smh my damn head I said already >:(

[solid sun]

Lmao

[solid sun]

Victor Frost more like Victor I’m not reading your shit pash

[undone beacon]

I'm just infodumping about endeavors lol

I just think theyre neat

[solid sun]

Why does the name Victor Frost seem so familiar

Is that a character name from something?

[fair beacon]

sorry mate, really spotty net suddenly got the large info stash. apolgoies and thanks for the info. imma go through em 🙂

also not as far as I know, just picked a first and last name i liked 😄

[undone beacon]

lol you're good im just teasin ya

[solid sun]

We are harmless victor frost

We don’t mean anything by it

I’m drinking coffee rn the vibes are maxxing

[fair beacon]

so unfair that the endeavor token ach is not retroactive, I have already spent so much

[solid sun]

Vibemaxxing

[undone beacon]

dont even get me started lol

[drowsy comet]

this dude is fun ngl

[tribal wharf]

well im not totally eager to just throw money at my monitor just yet

for that diablo 2 thing

im surprised they didnt release it as a free thing

if it was like 10 - 20 cad i would have bought it instantly most likely 30 is a bit high

it gives a horadric cube for wow though

[drowsy comet]

25 is fine, normally it would most likely be 15 bucks, but yk inflation and shit

for the QoL things its worth, the stash is awesome, the lootfilter is nice, something for when u minmax

[toxic pewter]

Did I read they made new content for Diablo 2

Like is it actual new content

[autumn roost]

new class, reworked stash, new items, new end game content

[toxic pewter]

Actually pretty cool

[lusty grotto]

mwahi

are you awake

@ionic fern

can i dm you a question? lmk

[solid sun]

You can dm me a question

I worked on the apl yesterday

So I’m pretty warriory

[lusty grotto]

Lol

[ionic fern]

Kinda.

[solid sun]

[lusty grotto]

I feel that lol

[jagged pier]

[round pendant]

holy moly

[coarse bay]

Even though youre already much better than me, you can dm me questions too

[solid sun]

Cam I heard you hit 4k in season 2

What is your response to these allegations @coarse bay

[coarse bay]

I most definitely did not hit anything near that 😭

The allegations are actually that i got 200 io less than you

[drowsy comet]

nah

[toxic pewter]

are those warlocks like wow warlocks or different

[drowsy comet]

Pretty much, you can summon a few demons max 3 iirc, have chaos spells (poison dmg) and you have hex, where you can buff ur weapon and nerf enemies

didnt know I had this on my Pala O_o

[ionic fern]

Should be fine now.

[tribal wharf]

i did not know shenron makes an appearance on tmnt 80's

1 for one besides it doesnt fly

[sharp gale]

Sewer shenron

[tribal wharf]

that show alone

is a large portion of why yogi english and sentence structure is just fucked

"totally turbuloso dudes!"

[ivory barn]

Appreciated, thank you

[dusky canopy]

Hollyy collector! Gz

[toxic pewter]

im jealous i never get love holiday mounts

[vivid orchid]

Halloween and this continue to elude me decades later

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto was Garrosh really wrong??

[lusty grotto]

in comparison to sylvanas no

but otherwise yes

KEK

[lament osprey]

@lusty grotto do I stay warrior for midnight or move on

[toxic pewter]

horde needs a warchief again... the co called 'horde council' isnt even in game assembled or anything

[solid sun]

Brew why are you asking about Garrosh lore

[coarse bay]

@solid sun I understand your frustration, Geya’rah

[solid sun]

I’m not frustrated

I’m being nosy

I wanna know what he’s getting himself into

[coarse bay]

[tribal wharf]

i did the valentine day dungeon

didnt get it

tank died cuz i healed

[dusky canopy]

The black empire is kinda sick lore

[solid sun]

Isn’t the black empire old god stuff

Way before Garrosh

[dusky canopy]

Yes but Garrosh literally brought the heart of Y’Shaarj to org and leeched power from it

[lusty grotto]

depends on what you need for the team

[dusky canopy]

What the hell kind of question

[lusty grotto]

im def staying warrior

[dusky canopy]

Bro play warrior

[lusty grotto]

hes the main tank of his guild

i wouldnt make a decision right now tbh

[dusky canopy]

All the more reason to play warrior then you can bench your dps warriors

[lusty grotto]

before looking at roster

[solid sun]

Warrior is W tier. No other tank can say that

[lusty grotto]

all tanks seem to be in a relatively good place gameplay wise (if anything they are simpler but they are still fun)

ive seen him play brew and he does well

and brew is looking good right now

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

so is bear

vdh and us

prot pally ehhh, but im biased

bdk is in the gutter (but grips always good and there's a fight that needs it)

[solid sun]

I thought bear was looking bugged

[dusky canopy]

Prot Paladin will never be as good as SL s3/4 for me

[lusty grotto]

all i can say about it is what ive heard, but apparently its still the same old paper tank and depending on the 8 cds

so who knows

warrior is definitely a safe bet

but so are the other 4

we will have to see what happens tuningwise when the exp drops

[cunning oriole]

Are we going to have roughly the same movement? Or are there more snares/roots to worry about?

[lusty grotto]

off the top of my head

there's nothing to worry about in that regard

[dusky canopy]

Your head has a top?

[cunning oriole]

Excellent. I hate feeling like I can't move fast enough

[lusty grotto]

if there's a case in which we need snare/root removal there's Fearless

which is berserker rage snare removal

[mighty valley]

it sounds like it doesn't remove roots sadly

[lusty grotto]

you right

[mighty valley]

we still have high tier tank mobility

[undone beacon]

i wont be satisfied, satiated, or slaked until we have triple leap back

[toxic pewter]

if u really tired of roots just go gnome

[undone beacon]

make it a capstone idc

Tireless Stratagem my beloved

[dusky canopy]

Embrace the roots

[mighty valley]

it was so fun in the wsg mode where you could simultaneous capture flags

get flag -> leave base -> leap leap leap leap all the way home

[dusky canopy]

Triple leap was sick ngl

[undone beacon]

I want something like a D3 Leapbarian build. Lemme make earthquakes and volcanos where i land

Not practical at all

But fun

[solid sun]

I just want to be movement

[dusky canopy]

I just want to be

[solid sun]

Constant no cd dashes

It should feel like playing mega man

Brew are you still carrying me to a mythic boss kill

[dusky canopy]

I don’t control the invites hoss

[cunning oriole]

kek

[cunning oriole]

Stand and Deliver.

[dusky canopy]

Could probably pug the first 6 or 7 lmao

Like actual 1 minute bosses Kek

[solid sun]

I just wanna kill a myth boss so I can be a mythic raider

[undone beacon]

First 7 super easy to pug

Dimmy not so

[dusky canopy]

Plexus falls over

You can pug that right now

[cunning oriole]

Guild is still trying to get a myth dimmy kill...we go agane tonight

DCs when grabbing the balls have been murdering us on platforms

[coarse bay]

I like worrior

[undone beacon]

yeah we tried, two nights of prog, got to third platform twice, and yeah no

[cunning oriole]

We're hearing the orbs can be picked up now without dc's. Hoping that will cause the big adds to go splat before we even have to cross

[solid sun]

I like you

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto I learned a fun fact today!
Did you know that koi fish always travel in groups of 4 and when attacked the A, B, & C Koi will scatter leaving behind the D Koi

[lusty grotto]

so they give them the D?

[cunning oriole]

"You don't have to be the fastest, just not the slowest"

[solid sun]

Decoy

[lusty grotto]

[solid sun]

You bastard

[lusty grotto]

no the D

[solid sun]

!votemute brew

[undone beacon]

give em the D brew

[dusky canopy]

Not very critical thinker today are we

[coarse bay]

[lusty grotto]

NOT TODAY BREW

[undone beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/842201708230344727/1055487345337577522/skateparkge.gif

this is literally me

this is who you're making fun of

meanie

[tribal wharf]

just some random doom wad lol

[dusky canopy]

Blizzard triggered by that poster

Wait

Nvm this is Prot chat

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ron-swanson-throw-1

https://klipy.com/gifs/discord-ragequit

[solid sun]

Someone called the maintenance team at the golf course I plumb in to handle a tub drain. They broken the drain and didn’t tell anyone and when the homeowner used the tub the next week it leaked water all over their bathroom

https://tenor.com/view/smoking-duck-cigarette-cigarette-duck-blunt-duck-smoke-duck-gif-4275462109028563488

[lament osprey]

I’m glad I can get the chat going. also nimchip tank I choose is whatever I want to choose regardless of what team needs.

[coarse bay]

Worrior

[lusty grotto]

ye

brew bear vdh warrior, throw dart

[coarse bay]

All of the above

[dusky canopy]

Brew first naturally

[coarse bay]

Naturally

[solid sun]

If you miss the dartboard does that mean you have to play bdk

[lusty grotto]

i gotta be honest im going by what ive heard

i havent actually tried BDK lately

[daring marlin]

based

[solid sun]

@viral arch why haven’t you fixed bdk

[coarse bay]

[solid sun]

Hopefully he wasn’t asleep. I can’t ever remember how far ahead of me he is

[coarse bay]

If anyone lets discord pings wake them up

Erm idk where im going with that

[lusty grotto]

they are unicorns

[undone beacon]

then they are light sleepers!

[solid sun]

The would be a silly goose?

[coarse bay]

Imagine getting discord pings

Hah

[lusty grotto]

@coarse bay get pinged

[coarse bay]

@solid sun i bet you get pinged a lot

[solid sun]

I do actually

I don’t mind though

I like talking to my discord friends

[coarse bay]

I only get pinged by nim

[solid sun]

What about all the times I reply to you to remind you that you’re better than me

Already forgot

[lament osprey]

Quit wow

[coarse bay]

Youre better than me at memory too

[solid sun]

Without context

It looks like I’m being told to quit wow and that I’m crazy good at wow at the same time

Browndot is much closer to the truth

[toxic pewter]

uhhh why did no one tell me shadow priest is fun as hell

22 years never played it once

so fun

[undone beacon]

It is very fun it just lacks upfront burst

So it feels like ass to play in world content and low keys

Also just ate a 10% ST nerf for no reason

[toxic pewter]

yeah def does have some ramp to it

damn did it really lol

i never bothered to check priest notes

[undone beacon]

Yeah they buffed SWP/VT and then did a flat 15% nerf to all damage

[toxic pewter]

oof

interesting

[undone beacon]

which is weird because shadow was like, middle of the pack ST at best

[toxic pewter]

this tentacle slam thing is fun though lol

it has like a good feel to it

when it slams

applies dots

[undone beacon]

yeah im torn between spriest and surv for my midnight main

[toxic pewter]

survival too fun also

i swear some of these specs very fun out thhere

[coarse bay]

Im always ramping

[undone beacon]

guys you just didnt
guys you didnt let me ramp enough

guys cmon

https://tenor.com/view/swd-shadow-word-death-spriest-sod-classic-wow-gif-14548584679132944772

[toxic pewter]

area 52 went down oof

i swear this server is the worst

(NA)

[tribal wharf]

a52 always down

most player

[undone beacon]

All servers went down

Not just A52

[toxic pewter]

oh

that even worse lmao

they must be changing out the hamster

[undone beacon]

God only knows

[cunning oriole]

the dell poweredge 2950s finally died

[tribal wharf]

that chicken game is something else

[lusty grotto]

turns out execute is still worth pressing in pure ST over revenge as MT with Thorim's Might

FYI

but only in pure ST

ST + Thorim's Might are the conditions

[mighty valley]

they gotta give colossus back the stacks from executing

why they give them all these bleed incentives

[lusty grotto]

yeah well

[mighty valley]

put deep wounds on execute

[lusty grotto]

execute is super dead in AOE and as colossus

i gotta check Thorim's + 2x targets

w/ heavy handed which goes without saying

but im guessing it wont be better than just a revenge

well, not guessing, its pretty clear it will be since HH is 70% damage of Exec

[mighty valley]

this is with deep wounds talented?

[lusty grotto]

deep wounds isnt a factor since at best it has 50% uptime

its just raw damage

you obviously want deep wounds with Thorim's might

[mighty valley]

i mean yeah it's 145% ap per execute

just making sure that's getting factored into the execute damage

[lusty grotto]

oh you meant in AOE

yeah.. i gotta do math for that

[mighty valley]

it might work out as alright in small target cleave or something

[lusty grotto]

you might be right

ill try to to get something tomorrow, my brain is fried

from what im seeing from this breakdown though..

raw damage its about the same as a Thane revenge

with 50% uptime on DW

[toxic pewter]

i dont even want to hear the math i already remove it from my bar

[lusty grotto]

actually now im curious

yeah nevermind what i said

overall if you do MT, you do want to execute with Thorim's and HH and DW

on cleave fights (2 targets)

i can check AOE tomorrow

[tribal wharf]

i fixed it

[cerulean tusk]

With the ap value included, it was 7+3k ish value, 12k modified per execute for 40 rage

Revenge was 8k per 20, so 16k per point

[mighty valley]

it does seem like deep wounds greatly encourages you to try and hit min rage executes

a bit silly...

[cerulean tusk]

Kinda the, or just press rev and save yourself the headache

[mighty valley]

there are so many execute talents and deep wounds benefits

if we end up tuned such that execute is never worth pressing... well. it ain't right lads

[warm plinth]

Tf you didn't tell me you were going today

[cerulean tusk]

It is silly, yep

But it is what devs decided to do

[solid sun]

I told you when i got there aren’t you only like a couple hours away!

[toxic pewter]

damn i also missed u went to applebees

i want some now

[tribal wharf]

and so begins the journey of bigstupid

[solid sun]

I should have let you come so you could wine and dine me

[toxic pewter]

[round pendant]

That usually comes after the wining and dining

hold up

let me

myself

[solid sun]

That was actually a good one

It got me

[urban bane]

Today was a big moment of growth for me.

I thought revenge was a dish best served cold. But then I realized revenge is just when you "Swing in a wide arc, dealing (234.72% of Attack Power) Physical damage to all enemies in front of you."

[lusty grotto]

[lusty grotto]

if it was up to rage cost alone, but SD exists - also im pretty sure youre not taking Thorim's into consideration

but i could be wrong

Harrow is right though, with how DW works now

with min rage executes etc

[toxic pewter]

lol

[solid sun]

So we are executing again

[lusty grotto]

only as thane with thorim's might, at ST or 2 target cleave

higher target count i would have to check

thats very preliminary, we will see

[solid sun]

Hmm

[lusty grotto]

take it with a grain of salt

[mighty valley]

I’d love for them to state their goals for execute

Seems like they get scared when it’s actually good

[toxic pewter]

yeah but also gotta weigh against not taking the new tough as nails perhaps ( im not sure if you can get it all easily i migth be wrong)

TAN is big right now

the people are LOVIING TAN

execute is OLd NEWS

[lusty grotto]

yeah im not exactly sure what they want with both revenge and cleave (as arms)

[mighty valley]

the hype here around TAN is funny

“damage that happens when you do nothing… im STOKED”

[lusty grotto]

to be fair

it rewards proper SB management

so thats actually a good thing

[toxic pewter]

TAN has been dead for 3.5 YEARS

hell yeah people happy to use it

[lusty grotto]

you mean since DF

cause thats when it was born

[toxic pewter]

The World of Warcraft: Dragonflight alpha officially launched on July 14, 2022.

ok so 3.5 YEARS

THREE POINT FIVE YEARS of DEAD TALENT

[lusty grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tainstvennoederevo-mdroederevo

[bleak breach]

wtf is TAN

We spending too much time in the sun?

[undone beacon]

Tough as nails

[solid sun]

Just make sure you use quality sunscreen before committing to getting TAN

[remote ocean]

do you all use any macros/addons for selecting mounts?

[mighty valley]

Nah I just have my fave mount per character

[undone beacon]

I have my faves on a bar

i have a macro for drac specifically tho

[remote ocean]

ah i see. hm

whats the macro for?

[toxic pewter]

I use litemount

[remote ocean]

Ive been using it. but it keeps adding new mounts I get to priority 1, even if i disable that option.

does it do that for you?

[toxic pewter]

Hmm well I just let it randomly select a mount I don’t have a prio list set right now

[remote ocean]

ah i see.

[toxic pewter]

But that does seem annoying

Surely must have a setting to disable that or something

Oh it must be bugged maybe

[remote ocean]

there is, but deostn seem to work

[toxic pewter]

I’ll test that tomorrow when I play just to see if I can replicate it

[cerulean tusk]

No Thoriums. But dont forget all the mods for Rev on top, rav 50%, the silly 30% on prio target, so on and on

[remote ocean]

that'd be awesome.

[cerulean tusk]

Exe is having a bad time

Guess if you only use exe at 20 rage value (and somehow dont overspend ever) you can equalize

[toxic pewter]

Blizz needs to just dumpster it even more so it’s completely off the table

Watch another nerf come through lmao 🤣

[cerulean tusk]

I dont have it on my bars atm, so they won already

[undone beacon]

Prioritize Soar if possible, then a preferred flying mount, then a preferred ground mount

[toxic pewter]

Yeah I moved on from it I was annoyed having to spend like three talent points just to make it decent anyway

[undone beacon]

Just means i can have all three options in one button

[remote ocean]

for reference this is the option on litemount that doesnt seem to work:

[remote ocean]

and ohhh thats cool.

[toxic pewter]

definitely seems pretty straightforward I assume it’s bugged with all the patches lately and stuff

[remote ocean]

and oh it does say its disabled

only realized now it has a (disabled) thing there.

lame.

[toxic pewter]

Dev said this on feb 11:

Work on anything that isn't a bugfix is completely stalled at the moment while the addon apocalypse consumes all my time trying to get my addons working and my game into a state where I will be able to do group content effectively. I'm sorry.

I feel like LiteMount has gone in a bad direction of making hard things doable, and easy things hard. A simple but common setup such as like "button 1 is flying mounts and button 2 is ground and aquatic mounts" is difficult to do. I think I basically need to scrap and redo how mounts are chosen.

So much time is spent keeping up with Blizzard's ever-changing list of things that work weirdly, or have been suddenly disallowed, that time to work on improvements seems to never appear. It is very frustrating.

Happy adventuring, X.

So basically he working on bug fixes as we type

He may even scrap the entire addon

And redo it I mean

[lusty grotto]

tough as nails

[remote ocean]

poop

[lusty grotto]

yeah i havent tested colossus yet, only thane

[undone beacon]

you're late i already answered

[lusty grotto]

oof

that must be a first for someone

but tbf im semi afk

[round pendant]

oh nice mtx plushies for your house in your subscription based game

thanks blizz

[bleak breach]

They should just mix tough as nails and the spell block replacement so if it’s magic it has that chance to negate it instead

Combined they would be a decent talent

[cerulean tusk]

TaN is ToN, aka Though as Nails

Get it right rat

[lusty grotto]

[drowsy comet]

A truck weighs a ton

[remote ocean]

do you all use the warband bank?

[undone beacon]

All the time

[remote ocean]

for what?

[undone beacon]

It’s very nice

I keep stacks of consumables like food and flasks in there for easy access across alts, as well as most of my gold and any warbound gear or special token currencies

At the start of S3 I made 500 hearty beledar bounties and put em in there, just grabbed 5 at a time as I needed them on alts

Since you can summon the warbank anywhere it’s convenient

Plus it means I can gather on one toon, drop in the mats, and use em easily on another without mailing them all

[coarse bay]

Ya my warband bank is very full of consumables, random fun items, warbound gear, and obviously gold

[sharp gale]

put auto-hammers in your warband bank

it's the first thing it comes to my mind as the most useful use for me, aside transferring gold across servers

[remote ocean]

oh thats awesome.

hm gonna try putting gold in

[sharp gale]

and warband boe, you can gear alt pretty easily with half the things you loot

[remote ocean]

hm it fels to me the bind on warband stuff i put there just rots

no idea how to even go through it

[sharp gale]

but when you create a char and open it, you are happy you have something

[remote ocean]

hm fair, i guess i dont make enough alts

can you use warband gold directly from the warbank? or gotta transfer it?

[sharp gale]

i don't do lot of alts too, most is like yours, but when i have a random dh week mid patch, he gets full heroic gear

[remote ocean]

hm

also do u guys know if there is any addon that makes harvesting lumber easier?

[warm plinth]

You deposit it on one toon and withdraw it on other toons

[coarse bay]

Dont forget that you can search keywords in the search bar

Like agility, strength, leather, mail, etc

Or by slot

Makes it easier to find stuff for a character

[undone beacon]

Collecting 250 of a wood type lets you collect that wood mounted, otherwise you track it on your minimap by using the lumber axe item you buy in your neighborhood and just fly around forests

[remote ocean]

mhm just started doing it ,i was wondering if there were any addons to make it easier, like making a route or soemthing

[undone beacon]

I’m sure you can google good routes or spots like other gathering professions

I’ve had no issue just kinda putzing around

[remote ocean]

mhm.

are u leveling all professions or focusing or just some?

[undone beacon]

I just gather and do engineering

[remote ocean]

oh aesome, what can engineering craft?

[undone beacon]

Enough alchemy to get double flasks but may go in on it this xpac

[sharp gale]

i don't do professions but at expansion launch, i do tailor enchant

[undone beacon]

Typically toys and useful garbage

Sometimes an overly grindy mount

And usually one useful gadget like an auto hammer or pausing pylons

[coarse bay]

The old school engineering advantage of goggles

[undone beacon]

Not profitable but it’s entertaining

[remote ocean]

mhm

[coarse bay]

Engineering also allows you to get a belt enchant that gives u another movement cd

[remote ocean]

oh really,

does that work in dungeons/raids?

[coarse bay]

Ya its a wotlk thing i believe

Ya

[remote ocean]

oh what do u lose to get that? or is it just free

[coarse bay]

S2 was so sad when we had to use the delve belt

U dont lose anything, as long as u have engineering and go through the process to get it, it’s just an on-use effect on your belt pretty much

It’s not a big deal but its fun

[remote ocean]

oh thats wild

whats it called?

[coarse bay]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=55016/nitro-boosts

[remote ocean]

thats awesome ill try to get it

[coarse bay]

Ya its pretty neat

[remote ocean]

i leveled eng on my warrior at the suggestion of the fine folk here but havent done much

[coarse bay]

Ya my pally has always been eng but it pretty much was only ever a goggles craft for a decent helm back in the day

And blingtrons

[remote ocean]

are there other fun enchants like that?

[coarse bay]

Idk any more than that one

Im not big on professions

[remote ocean]

mhm ty

i wonder if all this profession decor sells. its wild how much profitable things seem

[coarse bay]

Decor was super pricey when it first came out, havent looked since then though

[remote ocean]

i was trying to buy fences

each lumber averages about 250g if you're crafting it atm

took me acouple hours to get through the legion blacksmithing campaign to be able to craft it though

[untold phoenix]

Decor sells, but slowly. Lots of relisting nerds that camp the ah and relist for -1 copper every time someone undercuts them.
Prices will drop dramatically as people figure out values for lumber (because lumber isn't tradable) since the rest of the cost to make most decor is tiny.

[remote ocean]

mhm, lumber seems overpriced as hell to me.

[untold phoenix]

Some more niche things that require like wrath tailoring or whatever (that few people have leveled/set up) also have higher than expected prices

[sharp gale]

housing is the biggest content on wow by far

[coarse bay]

Im a supporter of housing but that’s a very made up statement

[sharp gale]

it is made up, but casuals are 90% of the playerbase

[untold phoenix]

Lumber is slow to gather (spend 3 seconds channeling on a tree to get 1-2 pieces/rarely 3, not even mounted gathering until 250 obtained) so I don't think it'll ever be cheap.

[remote ocean]

idk. that reminds me a lot of what people said about pet battles when it first came out. i mean i like it. but it just died.

i hope the same doesnt happen to housing

[sharp gale]

m+ and the raid is a minority

[untold phoenix]

It died because blizz ignored it and never iterated

[coarse bay]

Ik, but nobody except blizzard knows what the biggest content is

Especially considering you need to have preordered to do housing

[untold phoenix]

As long as blizz keeps iterating and adding to housing it'll remain important

[sharp gale]

about the actual numbers yes, but myself, i assume the majority of players loves delves

LOVES

[coarse bay]

Like idk if people are doing housing more than mog and mount farming, or questing

I dont assume the majority of players LOVE delves

[remote ocean]

how do you all feel about wow's housing implementation compared to other games?

[sharp gale]

and you are already among the elite if you do all 10s

[coarse bay]

Im not arguing against people doing m+ and raid being a minority

All i said was that saying housing is the biggest content is made up

[sharp gale]

i'm not arguing, we just talk, i just explain i estimate the majority of the playerbase being the opposite of me

[sharp gale]

casuals don't raid and don't m+

[coarse bay]

Ok

And housing is the only thing in wow besides those

[sharp gale]

currently, yes

[coarse bay]

Oh i missed the part where they deleted the other 20 years of content

[sharp gale]

heavily related to housing now

[coarse bay]

Well my completely true statement is that brawlers guild is the biggest content in wow

Because it isnt m+ or raid

[sharp gale]

i never said it was completly true, it's my assumption

[coarse bay]

And brawlers guild doesnt require a preorder

So more access

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated

[coarse bay]

It’s really good if youre creative