lmao
#protection
drowsy comet
undone beacon
solid sun
Pash is our guild discord an adult server
Damn am I fucked from being in the raid call
How hilarious would that be
solid sun
“Pash your friend can’t be in our raid because discord doesn’t register him as an adult”
undone beacon
no kids in raid
solid sun
Tbh I’d laugh
undone beacon
18+ raiding we all raid naked
drowsy comet
drowsy comet
no kids in raid
Hey
solid sun
remote ocean
how far away do you all keep your camera when tanking?
solid sun
I’m zoomed out real goodly
remote ocean
hmm pointing more down or more forward?
undone beacon
i play abnormally zoomed in
solid sun
I tend to default to a Birds Eye perspective
But often in dungeons I angle the camera towards pats
So I can be vigilant about needing to charge/leap to defend some marks hunter standing max distance
undone beacon
mighty valley
I'm pretty zoomed out, but generally looking ahead, bird's eye looks insane to me
I just spin the camera when I need to see something behind me
jagged pier
lean aurora
i play abnormally zoomed in
I think as a bear this makes sense. Their eyes are different.
toxic pewter
max zoom out using advanced options addon
anyone zoomed in any less might as well be playing a first person game
coarse bay
Max zoom as well, only looking straight down when theres a mechanic that calls for it
undone beacon
solid sun
Do you have the gif of the bear getting bounced off the ledge during the ice spider boss in dragonflight
undone beacon
solid sun
Heck yeah
High quality
I regret mentioning fury was talking about tanking
I keep almost getting baited into commenting but I’m being a good boy
undone beacon
How dare they talk about tanking
The lack of gifs in that conversation is astounding, disturbing, and downright disrespectful
solid sun
Idk
The tank trinket comment came really close to getting me
That was exceptional bait
coarse bay
Ya after a quick scan, that convo hurt
undone beacon
tribal wharf
The tank trinket comment came really close to getting me
hello i have been summoned
what tank trinket
solid sun
LMAO
drowsy comet
This is more interesting than the Superbowl
coarse bay
And tbf, this season’s cheat death trinket is exceptionally bad
tribal wharf
i mean really it is the original doot eternal music was supposed to be something like 200 beats per minute
drowsy comet
And tbf, this season’s cheat death trinket is exceptionally bad
Seasons over 
tribal wharf
meh, ppl have been arguing about tank cheat death trinket since those were ever a thing
as an example
undone beacon
Wait
tribal wharf
me punishing the healer in sl with leash
undone beacon
Go read the discussion in fury channel
tribal wharf
i only lurk in channels im not active in
tribal wharf
lusty grotto
😬
lusty grotto
sure
solid sun
Every now and then there’s a decent one or good one
lusty grotto
theres a bunch of good trinkets in this last season for sure
tribal wharf
this one if i remember it right is TRASH for us
lusty grotto
but there's always outliers
tribal wharf
yes
lusty grotto
ceaseless ire being THE one
tribal wharf
yes, that one is very horrible for us
you have to leap or charge/interven
to make use of it
solid sun
We’ve had bombsuit
tribal wharf
im looking at things you can supposedly buy with the dinars
undone beacon
im looking at things you can supposedly buy with the dinars
Stoneheart isnt actually available
they removed it from the loot table at the start of the season cuz its... bad
sharp gale
We lost happy
I get baited very easily
sharp gale
It is an ironic name
lusty grotto
i refuse to believe that
solid sun
What actually is the dps play rn for wars
Are we gonna be playing fury when we aren’t tanking
lusty grotto
fury
tribal wharf
my guess would be use antea, bombsuit,'
this seems like its the source of the drama
lusty grotto
arms is getting close but... and better than TWW version but its still behind and ass to play
lusty grotto
this seems like its the source of the drama
no
solid sun
That’s a shame
tribal wharf
i like arms better due to huge mortal strike
lusty grotto
fury is fun though
sharp gale
I bought transmog with my last dinar
lusty grotto
just clap in keys
sharp gale
I really enjoy unstoppable force on fury
undone beacon
I bought transmog with my last dinar
thats what i did
solid sun
I don’t necessarily want to level multiple characters this time so I’m debating just doing the warrior and dpsing and tanking on it
tribal wharf
that was 100% what i did with dinars , that and mage trinkets
sharp gale
I made my mind no other class is as fun as warrior, so I have 3 warriors
sharp gale
Yes it’s more like 2 actually, the third is split option if a guild needs it
lusty grotto
tribal wharf
sharp gale
But gnome and nelf
tribal wharf
this is one of my favorites
jagged pier
Scars my beloved
tribal wharf
only good at 3 or 4 stacks imo
undone beacon
enduring dreadplate my beloved
lusty grotto
my fav trinkets were SL from sanctum
you mean OLS?
lusty grotto
enduring dreadplate my beloved
dreadplate 2.0 only
mighty valley
Oldschool LuneScape?
toxic pewter
you mean OLS?
old warrior soul?
tribal wharf
ironically i quit before dreadplate 2.0
undone beacon
Yogi do you like SuperHot
toxic pewter
yah that one too
toxic pewter
but i really liked Shard of Annhylde's Aegis
just enhoyed having giga shield on command
and did ddam
lusty grotto
ye
sharp gale
I really liked the ashvane ursin
tribal wharf
play this one
this one is amazing
new blood typically does good shit
not always but for most part W
yes, that is a mage staff that luanches miniature planets that explode like rockets
ask me question about those types of games i can answer
tribal wharf
i garuntee you'll have fun if you try my game lol
lusty grotto
tribal wharf
the numbers mason what do they mean
tribal wharf
i dont get it
lusty grotto
thats probably for the best
tribal wharf
i am 50% the way there with the graph thing
i can handle small number sure
big numbers and graphs and shit , no way
or well, it helps to have a graph, or it can also not help to have the graph
my brain dont work in the way that super hot works
dont like it so much
solid sun
@sharp gale you don’t think dk is fun?
tribal wharf
dk is fine but it has no on demand move skill
and it has long ass CD for not so great DR
toxic pewter
but it also cant be slowed lower than 70% movement speed wat u think of that
sharp gale
<@247128537994231808> you don’t think dk is fun?
Frost ? No I don’t like it, mostly bc the number of ressources, I don’t feel good when I play
I didn’t try udk
lament osprey
https://klipy.com/gifs/limite-math
Imagine dealing with temperature with this 🥹
lusty grotto
ok that was funny
sharp gale
S2 udk was so bad, I need 2 expansion of break
And blood, I’ll play when it launch, idk what’s new, kinda lazy to keep track
lusty grotto
tribal wharf
shaman tank when
lusty grotto
very simple, but fun
sharp gale
I don’t like frost
tribal wharf
i like frost more than unholy
tribal wharf
i am incredibly too stupid to play unholy
but DW is more dps than 2h, which i would prefer 2h
sharp gale
It basically is fury, which is a reason I try every patch fdk, but i don’t enjoy the same spell doubled for AoE
tribal wharf
-3 t3 talent points is wtf
lusty grotto
brain off, do damage
tribal wharf
they removed 3 or 4 of our talents for some unknown reason
sharp gale
I played red mage, thank god there is/was no aoe in ff14
tribal wharf
nah see i played a ton of other games with magic users and whatever the hell
i never liked playing mage ever
lusty grotto
theres one button for ST, one for AOE
the follow up to the combo also the same
that's basically both SAM and WAR
so FDK is kinda similar, except it doesnt have combos
sharp gale
Red mage it is paired since you have black and white, so it’s 2/4
sharp gale
I don’t play shitty jobs
lusty grotto
how dare you say SAM is shitty
or WAR
or RPR
ok RPR is shitty, but only cause its so nerfed
sharp gale
War is bad
tribal wharf
the only final fantasy i ever played to completion was 8 with the giant 350 page bradley games strategy guide and 9
lusty grotto
War is bad
ok youre under arrest
sharp gale
I prefered paladin or the death knight i don’t remember the name
tribal wharf
and then ff1 but it was for ps1 and then ported to psp
and then ff tactics
and then never again ff until i did ff14 and quit like lvl 10
lusty grotto
I prefered paladin or the death knight i don’t remember the name
DRK, WAR, PAL, GNB
those are the four
im guessing you mean dark knight
i like WAR and GNB
PAL 3rd best, i hated fucking DRK
sharp gale
Ninja is the best designed job of ff, but it was not my main job
lusty grotto
cause yeah NIN is fun but... i wouldnt say its the best designed job
sharp gale
Last time I played was end-ish shadowbringer until the first savage of endwalker
solid sun
The last job I tried was the double dagger flippy job
lusty grotto
thats thief
solid sun
I think it came out at the same time as Picasso
lusty grotto
which is NIN
lusty grotto
oh, if you mean pictomancer, then its viper
solid sun
Viper
lusty grotto
but viper has no daggers
kind talon
Is the DPS nerf as bad as the streamers/youtubers suggest?
solid sun
Wasn’t it two blades of some kind
lusty grotto
swords
solid sun
And then you could put them together or something
sharp gale
It makes me think of some crazy monster hunter weapon 
lusty grotto
Is the DPS nerf as bad as the streamers/youtubers suggest?
no, thats just tuning which will be corrected, its also too early to tell - however, there's some unintended jankyness with TC being more dmg than TB and Rev being more dmg than Exe
we're not worried about it
we'll worry when we're 1 week away from s1
solid sun
Instead, play in the sprinkler
lusty grotto
im sorry happy dont be mad STAY HAPPY PLS
sharp gale
I am
lusty grotto
sharp gale
I don’t compare the two
solid sun
Is it savage? The hardest version of the instances with four bosses
lusty grotto
savage isnt the hardest
but its close
ultimate is
savage is kind of similar to mid Mythic bosses
sharp gale
Savage is kinda the seasonal mythic raid, but again I wouldn’t compare too much
solid sun
Isn’t ultimate a special boss that rewards a special weapon tmog
solid sun
Yeah that’s crazy
sharp gale
And gear is scaled in ultimate, so you can do the first ultimate close to how hard it was, minus your class changed
lusty grotto
comparing both is not fair to either of them
solid sun
Eh
It challenged me a lot more than heroic raiding ever does
So for me it’s mythic raiding
But I thoroughly enjoyed it
sharp gale
Pretty easy to do harder than heroic
lusty grotto
ye
sharp gale
But it’s more how the game plays it is very diff, you don’t have the same mechanics at all in a raid encounter + 20 vs 8 man is already silly
lusty grotto
yup
sharp gale
In FF you have less reaction overall, it is more planned, which makes it hard bc it is a long plan
lusty grotto
right
solid sun
Well I’m not really comparing
lusty grotto
which is why the put raid plans into the game
sharp gale
- just the game working in server ticks, it makes end game content very diff on the cognitive side
solid sun
I’ve never done wow mythic raiding
And tbh I probably won’t ever as long as it’s twenty people
sharp gale
Myth raiding is not that hard itself, it is very specific mechanics that are not easy
- playing your char while doing these, which is the same in FF, just server ticks make/made it very diff (at least for me)
lusty grotto
yeah
thats why i used exit lag
and uhh
some other thing that i wont mention
ah fuck it yeah i used xivalexander or clippy
solid sun
What a hacker
lusty grotto
but they are trying their best to make sure servers ping better
or were, im not sure whats the status on those now
solid sun
Sometimes I wonder if wow would be better served by having classes just being one thing
Or if it’d even matter
lusty grotto
wdym
sharp gale
Yeah Idk if they changed it, since wow used to work in server ticks and changed it, my thought was one day they will move to regular gaming in ff
lusty grotto
rhino a lot of people would be angry with that change lol
but anyway that's pretty much vanilla
solid sun
lol sure. It wouldn’t ever happen but I do wonder
sharp gale
I would like to see every class on every race first
lusty grotto
has a class ever been absent in RWF post DF?
specs, sure
but classes i dont think so
sharp gale
On a final boss ?
sharp gale
Bc Hunter on demensius
tribal wharf
hunter is very good always
sharp gale
And dk on Gallywix if I remember
tribal wharf
i mean sometimes hunter is weak
sharp gale
Sometime there is more than 1 target
dusky canopy
Negative ghost rider
sharp gale
But the new mark is good enough for AoE bosses
mighty valley
i missed the important convo so i'm bringing it back
do kids today still get graphing calculators
what TI number are they up to now if yes
lusty grotto
i wouldnt know
mighty valley
I was a TI-80 boy
lusty grotto
its been a minute
i was a TI-89 chad
i still fucking have two of them
but they were required for engineering anyway
lusty grotto
no
dusky canopy
You lost 3 points that’s why they reset them
mighty valley
it's very weird
was it an oversight that they gating was all wrong in the first place?
lusty grotto
likely
lusty grotto
means nothing
cause its pre patch
youll get those points back when you level in midnight
unless...
narrow jay
I didnt think we were getting more points that's why this rattled me so much lol
But yes I've spent most of pre patch logged out
polar storm
Does anyone have an addon that tracks shield slam uptime?
lusty grotto
do you mean shield block?
no, there isnt any, logs are your best tool
details tracks aura uptimes but its not as reliable as logs
polar storm
oh yeah block my bad
i was more lookin for something i can put on my screen to show just the shield block timer so i dont have to look at buffs
like a whirlwind stack tracker for fury
untold phoenix
Both shield block and fury's whirlwind can be tracked with the built in CDM just fine
As a bar or a buff
I've heard TellMeWhen still exists and can be used to beef up the customizability of the CDM a bit
lusty grotto
yeah just use CDM and/or your favorite CDM addon modifier
polar storm
sorry for the possibly dumb question but what is CDM lol
toxic pewter
built in cooldown manager has some cool audio alerts you can mess with if you are interested. so like if ur shield block drops off can get a quick audio queue
along with icon and icon border alerts
lusty grotto
and as a bar
pale onyx
would you guys take mythic astral antenna over mythic tier chest?
i currently have heroic antenna
warm plinth
I didnt think we were getting more points that's why this rattled me so much lol
We get 3 class points and 4 spec points during the midnight levels
So they basically just made it so you get the same amount in the final gate as now by increasing the req to 23
sharp gale
built in cooldown manager has some cool audio alerts you can mess with if you ar...
The alert system is kinda cringe with gcd abilities, it procs only if you have the gcd available
I tried to do an alert for execute, it is useless to know I can execute when it is too late
polar storm
how do i move around the build in cd manager?
ah i see
nevermind i cant figure out how to move it around lol
polar storm
ohh i needed to enable it in the edit mode thing
wild that its not enabled by default
warm plinth
wild that its not enabled by default
Blizzard things amirite
remote ocean
We get 3 class points and 4 spec points during the midnight levels
oh, thats awesome.
mighty valley
the 4 spec points are kinda spoken for though
unless the apex talents end up drastically undertuned
toxic pewter
I can see the apex talent not being used. perhaps just 1 point only
thats how it is on beta right now at least
certain talents in spec tree just better
solid sun
If we aren’t locking in the apex talents, they’re booty
toxic pewter
yeah for a lot of specs just really bad
solid sun
Can’t be adding something called apex talents and then not use them
Apex predators are top of the food chain!
These gotta be top of the talent chain!
toxic pewter
yeah most likely gonna see a huge tuning pass on just the apexes
remote ocean
uhh did they change how far away your camera is in this patch or am i tripping
lusty grotto
if youre upset about being declined in 2s in prepatch... just you wait
polar storm
not upset its just wild lmao
lusty grotto
better get ready for some pic posting
polar storm
what do you mean by that lmao
lusty grotto
nothing its just weird youre posting that
but there's nothing going on right now anyway so 🤷♂️
undone beacon
daring marlin
Butter?
glad magnet
https://tenor.com/view/cornball-corny-corn-cringe-gif-897539710037372218
Why haven’t they genetically engineered round corn
sharp gale
What would be in the middle
undone beacon
More corn
polar storm
a round cob
glad magnet
Yeah I think the cob is integral to the corn COB experience I’m just asking for it to become a sphere.
eternal glade
haha i suck
toxic pewter
we just got nerfed so
eternal glade
i didnt even look at the notes
toxic pewter
yeah our damage is in the gutter so dont be too hard on yourself
eternal glade
i was just assuming average would be higher tbh. i havent paid much attention to CD management or what the proper rotation string is
toxic pewter
eternal glade
going to hit the dummy again and see what happens
harsh trellis
did we get any changes at all today?
eternal glade
actually before i continue, anyone know what would cause unit frames to not show?
harsh trellis
actually before i continue, anyone know what would cause unit frames to not show...
ctrl+v
eternal glade
ctrl+v
only changing nameplates
got it. so yeah im hovering around 6k, but, im also still learning and ilvl 143
lusty grotto
Or are you doomin
dooming
errant wagon
what happened with our left tree today with reset? I can't seem to get the bottom nodes anymore
reading patch notes I don't really see anything...
lusty grotto
read #updates-midnight
errant wagon
gotcha, thanks king
eternal glade
read <#1234949058121171069>
ah so talent nerf is playing a big part of this
lusty grotto
a big part of what
eternal glade
lower dps
lusty grotto
dps is fine, this is pre patch
worry when we're 1 week away from s1
there's no real content right now
eternal glade
got it. just trying to optimize my gameplay
im comfortable tanking M+ and mythic raids, just trying to be a little better is all
lusty grotto
that will be hard atm
since its tuesday and people are just logging on, so there's no base to compare to
but the basic gameplay is there
eternal glade
yeah, i'll come back to it once some of the better prot warriors get a baseline
lusty grotto
just make sure youre hitting the right buttons
undone beacon
No harm in trying to do the best you can, but remember that you’re working with an incomplete kit anyways
eternal glade
just make sure youre hitting the right buttons
mostly what im trying to figure out
undone beacon
Practice the basics
cerulean tusk
ToN! ToN!
lusty grotto
I want to be very clear that this is an unusual two-week period with unique limitations that we're not going out of our way to min/max
very important
if you want to get better we can look at logs
but numbers wont really matter
just ability usage
eternal glade
avatar + demo shout on CD, SB + IP on CD, and i rotate TC, SS, WT while keeping priority on procs and revenge between CD time
currently what im doing
eternal glade
just ability usage
yeah ability usage is my primary focus atm
not so much the numbers
lusty grotto
ip on cd is not the play
cerulean tusk
IP is a ragedump, not a use on CD
lusty grotto
^
cerulean tusk
^^
lusty grotto
SB on cd is not the play
you maintain it
you just dont ham it
and you dont rotate your abilities
its a priority system
where SS is your biggest prio
and WT... wrecking throw?
eternal glade
okay so i need to learn when to rage dump with IP, how to maintain SB, and priority
yes wrecking throw
lusty grotto
your prio is SS > TC > Rev/Exe
eternal glade
noted. thank you
eternal glade
use WT as a pack puller instead?
lusty grotto
just send it with avatar
avatar will be up around its CD
depending on if rage use is correct
having AM lower its CD
but rotationally its nothing that important, its probably gonna be one button you wanna watch in case you need to silence
so using on CD is probably not the best idea
eternal glade
having AM lower its CD
AM? (sorry, still learning)
lusty grotto
anger management
eternal glade
anger management
gotcha, thank you
now, when we are talking about IP being rage dump, what is the proper timing for rage usage?
lusty grotto
after 70 rage more or less depending on gameplay
you use it in between gcds
since its off gcd
eternal glade
okay thank you
lusty grotto
so if you do SS -> IP -> SS its 2 gcds with rage usage
while generating with those two shield slams
tl;dr if the next SS or TC will cap you, you use IP
you want to never cap rage
and you NEVER want to starve
sacred flare
I was doing some small very small brain testing is exe not worth pressing over rev since a single revenge does about as much as a max execute at half the rage?
lusty grotto
so keep rage between 30 and 70
lusty grotto
I was doing some small very small brain testing is exe not worth pressing over r...
correct
at least with the current patch
sacred flare
Lame
lusty grotto
you want to use it to apply deep wounds though
eternal glade
got it, thank you. and using avatar and demo shout on CD is proper yes?
lusty grotto
yes
sacred flare
So just use the free ones basicly
lusty grotto
because of AM cdr, you can send them on cd
sacred flare
Makes sense to me
lusty grotto
as you would execute
its also a dps increase to use TC instead of TB
if thane
but
i wouldnt worry too much about it
eternal glade
and last idiot question. what is the proper way to maintain SB
sacred flare
that sounds like a pain to play
lusty grotto
both of those need to be fixed
lusty grotto
and last idiot question. what is the proper way to maintain SB
just keep it up
and then dont use it if a mob is about to die
you can use both charges at the start of a pull if you want
just press it as its fading
after that
that's it
and make sure youre always facing mobs
even archers/sharpshooters
eternal glade
okay. i'll give it a go
lusty grotto
if you log it'll help us identify where you could use improvement more reliably
ivory barn
Logged into a wiped talent tree, is the prot warrior talent builds for M+ here up to date?
eternal glade
if you log it'll help us identify where you could use improvement more reliably
i'll figure out how to log. give me a bit to do that and get used to my keybind adjustments
ivory barn
that website crashes my pc, lemme see if I can pull it up on my phone
lusty grotto
thats kinda wild
ive never heard of wowhead crashing people's pcs haha
or any website for that matter
ivory barn
I go there and within 5 minutes my pc is unresponsive
lusty grotto
CkEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAkBAAGzwMzMzMmtZmZZYMGNmZGWmZMzwwMDAAAAWGAmxAMAYZBNmBwImZDzMzMwsNAYmBAgBA
thats the import code
play that
eternal glade
already noticing improvements from having SS as priority ability
lusty grotto
just copy paste
ivory barn
Thank you kindly Nimchip!
lusty grotto
eternal glade
Nimchip deserves a raise
ivory barn
outta curiousity we take the cleave execute but not the bleed?
lusty grotto
these builds are not heavily optimized, when we're max level in midnight we will have points for it
its pre patch
warm plinth
Or we might not. Tuning is fun and mysterious!
lusty grotto
but also there's not a lot of points you can flex towards DW at TWW levels
maybe you can just swap LS for it
yeah you can
just swap Last Stand for it
warm plinth
Are you suggesting an LS swap?
eternal glade
LS3 swapped warrior? or LSX?
warm plinth
WE GETTIN HORSEPOWER BOIS
eternal glade
TANKPOWAHS PER RAGEOMETER
toxic pewter
eternal glade
the phalanx stuff sounds pretty sweet eh
lusty grotto
its not that good
eternal glade
oh 🙁
kind talon
ive never heard of wowhead crashing people's pcs haha
Way back in the day it had a ton of malware
Like 2005
lusty grotto
Way back in the day it had a ton of malware
ive been around
for longer than that
also theres no way for JS to install malware
eternal glade
ive only been around for 3 weeks lol
kind talon
So too did every website I suppose
kind talon
Yeah they were prompts I believe, but I’m going way back
I could also entirely be misremembering
eternal glade
```
CkEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAkBAAGzwMzMzMmtZmZZYMGNmZGWmZMzwwMDAAAAWGAmxAMAYZBNm...
this is MT yes?
eternal glade
kk. going to import it, see if i have anything wrong
kind talon
yeah i think you might be
Totally possible, and even likely if you disagree. I can’t believe that was 15-20 years ago
lusty grotto
kk. going to import it, see if i have anything wrong
you totally have a lot wrong
kind talon
My knees can though
eternal glade
you totally have a lot wrong
4 talents
lusty grotto
thottbot did have a lot of weird shit when it was fading out from existence
some ad banners in allakhazam also had some VB scripts that could have been malicious
not to mention flash ads
nowadays, all you have to worry about are cookies tracking and to not run stuff that isn't trust worthy
warm plinth
I used to have wowhead crash my browser if I left it open for a while.
But not for years
lusty grotto
that sounds more like you had a toaster than anything lol
warm plinth
Nah they had a bad ad source or something. I posted screenshots a few times of how many ads got blocked on it and they'd be like stupid high in a short time
cerulean tusk
Wowhead did or maybe still have a ton of stream imbeds, that kept doubling over time, till it crashed and burned
lusty grotto
ohh
well ive always blocked ads since ad blockers were invented so that might be why
specifically i havent seen things like that
cerulean tusk
Happy rat in hat noices
tribal wharf
i think one thing that they messed up badly on is and i can understand why, with the nintendo switch and steam deck
lusty grotto
tribal wharf
part of the reason i didnt buy either of those is because i have had the gameboy colour pocket
and psp
and those legitimately fit in most even fairly small pockets like on say jean
lusty grotto
and because youre yogi so you dont buy anything relatively modern
tribal wharf
the other bigger models would fit in your backpack sure
warm plinth
They didn't mess up badly on either of those things. Both are very good sellers
tribal wharf
eeno,
lusty grotto
oh no i got it all right
tribal wharf
like there is a device out there for retro games and its like, same thickness as gbc
but its newer obviously
lusty grotto
youre just allergic to modern gaming
warm plinth
The reason those could be small is because they were putting out an infinitesimal fraction of the graphics and resolution that modern gaming requires
tribal wharf
and i would want that because that fits in my jean pocket or sweater pocket extremely easily and not awkard like
ivory barn
so much shit on the CDM lol gotta love Base Blizz
tribal wharf
but i do know that part of the problem with that is they have tiny components
warm plinth
so much shit on the CDM lol gotta love Base Blizz
Yeah I removed literally everything except defensives and shield block XD
and just have those as bars
tribal wharf
i am just satisfied that blizzard realizes some base line ui changes are nessecary
some inhouse addons
lusty grotto
just get luxthos' better cdm profile and thats it
tribal wharf
i would want them to do logs even, and host the logs on blizzard servers or it just redirects to wclogs
or you can see it in the game, but this is probably better on a website
ivory barn
just get luxthos' better cdm profile and thats it
see with the Addon nuke, I went full ballistic with them, and only kept Better Ability Timeline
tribal wharf
cuz, then its all blizzard sanctioned numbers, and okay, we have the numbers and GG to you and rip to you
tribal wharf
i used to get alot of pushback for something indirectly related to that in BFA
ivory barn
they added a % tot he damage meter now
lusty grotto
good fucking lord
half jewel
I heard we are macroing TClap to avoid TBlast, is that true? Sound weird, but I also saw that TB is doing less than normal TC?
half jewel
Is it some sort of cancelaura or something?
warm plinth
tribal wharf
i had some spell announcer addon and every single time something would happen some spell goes off it types in the chat "void monster casts shadow bolt"
and it would do that a million times per dungeon
lusty grotto
im not in game atm so cant get you the macro but
i wouldnt worry too much about it
its prepatch, play like its prepatch
tribal wharf
i like how its all the classic heros as bots and the classes are correct and arthas is top dps
solid sun
Would you vote for me @warm plinth
lusty grotto
doing such a weird optimization is just whatever
it is true though that if the tuning stays as is, then yes we will have to macro it
half jewel
its prepatch, play like its prepatch
I have been but someone told me about it earlier today so I thought I'd come ask
lusty grotto
warm plinth
Would you vote for me <@255696891000389633>
Vote for you for what
solid sun
To silence me
warm plinth
Oh
No there's like 2 people I would, but I'm not going to say their name because it would only cause drama.
solid sun
That’s cause we are super best bros
tribal wharf
i should be out there crusading as a heretic
but the map pack i want to do is way to difficulty
not insanely so, but very very overpowered vs me
undone beacon
No there's like 2 people I would, but I'm not going to say their name because it...
You can say my name it’s okay 
warm plinth
Never Pash!
raw gazelle
anyone know what changed with the warrior talent tree?
lusty grotto
read #updates-midnight
warm plinth
hm, did they fix the TC/TB thing already perhaps? I'm not seeing TC do more damage unless it crits and TB doesn't, and even then it's a small amount (2807 TC crit , 2723 TB non-crit) Or is it only doing it in specific circumstances?
warm plinth
idk, the same one as before, just modified slightly for the 11 points that got reset
warm plinth
yeah, you think barb training would cause it though? It doesn't affect TC
warm plinth
Ahh
lusty grotto
ravager is a huge 50% though
warm plinth
I mean I can talent it just to check if you want XD I've seen weirder shit
lusty grotto
its just wild why TB isnt based off TC's damage to begin with
warm plinth
I assume it's because TB ignores armor due to being nature
warm plinth
Tooltip wise, TB does show a smaller number, but I just chalked it up to the nature vs physical
and, well, blizz tooltips aren't exactly gospel
ivory barn
I need more crit 🙁
its still crit haste yeah?
lusty grotto
either way its a silly workaround to begin with
warm plinth
2805 TC crit
3722 TB crit
Gonna check during Ravager now
Actually let me get some non-crits first just in case there's weirdness there
lusty grotto
in that case there's some feelcraft afoot and its likely some shit just got sent via fury
that got sent via fury feels*
warm plinth
Yeah idk, I'm not seeing an issue though it's kinda hard to test during ravager since it only lasts 8 seconds lol
lusty grotto
yeah it cant be ravager
im just confirming that people were doing it
i grabbed the macro from someone in beta but
i CBA to fucking use it, fuck that
also i dont wanna log on WoW until later in the week
round pendant
Any wacky conversations lately?
warm plinth
That's fair. Yeah I probably wouldn't have used it either unless it went live that way
like live as in not prepatch
lusty grotto
execute being weaker than revenge is still an issue though
round pendant
Execute should be a big button
lusty grotto
and i have a feeling they will just end up nerfing revenge
round pendant
lmao
lusty grotto
which btw is not that bad
of an outcome
cause the reason revenge is better is due all the buffs
lusty grotto
yea TWW balancing execute was good
round pendant
It's always goofy when it's just a slightly better rage spender that you get to use for 20%/30% of the fight
yeah MT execute was fun
especially with cleave it was nice seeing it up near the top in m+
idk why they had to change it
I feel like everybody liked that
round pendant
I'm still of the belief they need to separate m+ and raid just like pvp is
round pendant
because I wonder how many changes are because they can't let something be too good in M+ even tho it's just fine in Raid, and vice versa
round pendant
almost back to DF levels
lmao
lusty grotto
1% for 10 rage was DF
TWW it was 1% for 20 rage
now we're halfway to
1% for 15 rage lol
round pendant
Nerf something so it's not used anymore -> keep buffing it til it's used again -> wait everybody uses this thing -> repeat
round pendant
It's always been a thing with blizzard
round pendant
Yeah I've come to the conclusion that I don't like DF talent trees
I liked them because it's nice swapping stuff around for specific dungeons or raid fights
But there's honestly just too much tiny shit that's just nothingburgers
Just go back to mop trees
lusty grotto
i figure its better if is halfway to MoP trees
but not exactly MoP trees
but honestly im ok with the trees, i just hate the fact that they seem to be way too hard for blizzard to balance
both in throughput and presentation
and routing through them etc
that being said, the midnight tree certainly has some good cooks, most of them fall flat but there's some things that are interesting as ideas for sure
dreamy crag
from reading, something is off, right? Feels like I am doing half damage or some shit on M Salad/Dimmy
can't tell if it's rust or some change/bug
dreamy crag
they must've been substantial, salad kill went from 35k to 25k haha
lusty grotto
well the SS nerf hurts a lot more than the others
ivory barn
since when was it a 10 for ports ...
lusty grotto
since always
ivory barn
I thought it was 20's
ivory barn
I played S1 of DF and dipped after Rasz
lusty grotto
10s are the new 20s scaling wise after that
or were
its prepatch so people can just afk through them anyway
warm plinth
Yeah they did a squisharoonie to the key levels
ivory barn
100% not clapping hard enough +10 Priory
ivory barn
its prepatch so people can just afk through them anyway
I got clapped lol
lusty grotto
you shouldnt be
warm plinth
lusty grotto
but it depends on your ilvl
ivory barn
143
orchid mural
built in cooldown manager has some cool audio alerts you can mess with if you ar...
thanks for this btw. Now i got the awesome Seal sound from Warcraft 2 to 'arf' at me if my shield block falls off. pretty iconic and nostalgic if ya played warcraft 2!
toxic pewter
thanks for this btw. Now i got the awesome Seal sound from Warcraft 2 to 'arf' a...
that badass I am gonna steal that from u lol
warm plinth
It's always the quiet ones that turn into GIANT THIEVES
orchid mural
lol
toxic pewter
XD
clear pawn
They screwed up the class talent trees for half the classes. We're going to be missing stuff until 90 now.
warm plinth
They are just keeping the number of points you have past the 20 gate (now 23 gate) the same
lusty grotto
it'll be fine in midnight
solid sun
I was thinking about a little vibe coding sesh tonight @round pendant
Vibe write an addon to tell me when I do something that @coarse bay wouldn’t do so I can try to improve to their level, which is a higher level than me
lusty grotto
!votemute Rhino
lusty grotto
you know why
solid sun
I’m just following in your footsteps
lusty grotto
now go to your corner
warm plinth
If we had a votemute option, how many votes should it require to mute someone
lusty grotto
yes
round pendant
but honestly im ok with the trees, i just hate the fact that they seem to be way...
Yeah conceptually they could be cool but blizzard just can't design a good one, add on top of that the fact we're getting more points each expansion it's very quickly gonna become impossible
so just throw it out
solid sun
I’m down to just not have talents
round pendant
If we had a votemute option, how many votes should it require to mute someone
I'd say 5
warm plinth
Yeah conceptually they could be cool but blizzard just can't design a good one, ...
I don't think you're wrong. They already did hero talents and now apex talents to try to stave it off for a while
I feel like they know it's coming
lusty grotto
i wouldnt be surprised if they did something past the last titan
specifically to the talents system
round pendant
They'd have to make more stuff baseline or just prune stuff or merge things all the time
I feel like the mop system was betterer
solid sun
I’m going to picture that guy from now on in my head whenever we’re talking
lusty grotto
the problem is that the talent system is an RPG staple that just loses its appeal in a competitive game
lusty grotto
because everything gravitates to min maxing
ivory barn
did they do some graphics optimization? now getting 70fps in Dorn
round pendant
I definitely do not avoid drama
lusty grotto
yes! they removed WAs
warm plinth
round pendant
I think I'm pretty chill though
round pendant
did they do some graphics optimization? now getting 70fps in Dorn
There's probably just no one logged on
The main thing that kills your fps in town is the number of other players
lusty grotto
right, the game will forever be cpu bound
solid sun
What does that matter
That’s a genuine question
CPU’s seem to advance just like other pc components do
ivory barn
There's probably just no one logged on
staring at the Vault plenty of people
lusty grotto
but not wow's engine
round pendant
CPU’s seem to advance just like other pc components do
Multithreading is hard
coarse bay
@solid sun I vibe coded a tier list that ranks you better than me
lusty grotto
vibe code dn
solid sun
Is cam getting muted too!?
lusty grotto
!votemute Cam
round pendant
But yeah, better hardware will run the game better still
But blizz ain't gonna go in and multithread the addon system and how it handles players and their plates and all that
idek how you'd even do it tbh but I'm awful at multithreaded programming
lusty grotto
might be a little hard with LUA
solid sun
@warm plinth I think three votes but it goes to a mod review before auto muting
round pendant
Nah mod vetoing isn't democratic
5 votes, large enough to prevent most cliques from abusing it
solid sun
No way
Ghash and Pash can get three other mute goons to join in ez pz
Vibe muting all day long
lusty grotto
warm plinth
I'm a clique on my own
solid sun
Ghash do you remember that one time
warm plinth
At band camp?
solid sun
When Nimchip defined gooning for you
warm plinth
I still had to look it up after that
solid sun
What an all timer moment
round pendant
I never had to have it defined I just kinda got it via context
lusty grotto
also, let me just say i wanted to mention beavers in that explanation too but ultimately decided not to
i felt the bean mention and turkey stuffing was enough
cinder kiln
Mountain Thane
Protection
Ground Current damage increased by 150%.
Lightning Strike damage increased by 50%.
Thunder Blast damage reduced by 30%.
more rng aye
gr8
lusty grotto
i love people that copy paste patch notes we've already read hours ago or days in the case of beta
cinder kiln
i dont give a crap what u read
lusty grotto
i can give them presents
lusty grotto
go on...
cinder kiln
stfu
lusty grotto
go oooon....
cinder kiln
troll
novel coral
ladies, ladies, you're both pretty
solid sun
!votemute 60
lusty grotto
more more give me more
cinder kiln
!votemute 60
oh no your boyfriend mouthbreather got handed it to him
cinder kiln
https://klipy.com/gifs/dis-gon-be-good-this-gonna-be-good-1
we get it you
'
youre unemployed
lusty grotto
let it all out
cinder kiln
i just did
lusty grotto
tell us how you really feel
cinder kiln
i just did
lusty grotto
oh is that it?
cinder kiln
now try troll jokes from this decade
lusty grotto
!votemute Rhino
warm plinth
Mountain Thane
Protection
Ground Current damage increased by 150%.
Lightning St...
ngl I had to check what ground current was after reading that because I didn't remember what it was 😭
cinder kiln
fr
lusty grotto
fr fr
cinder kiln
ngl I had to check what ground current was after reading that because I didn't r...
not to mention we're now even more tanky. that wasnt on my bingo card for this.
undone beacon
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated
lusty grotto
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated
solid sun
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated
warm plinth
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated
lusty grotto
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated
warm plinth
REKT
warm plinth
I'm very angry, but I am too emotionally unintelligent to convey it.
cinder kiln
and yet he had a 10000% mmore intelligent answer
cinder kiln
wow this person is very angry based on his chat history lmao
and you're still crying for a conversation 10 minutes ago
lusty grotto
cinder kiln
u gotta love these class discords
resident zero lifer at 3 am thinks he's a tough guy
lusty grotto
at some point youre gonna have to figure out that the class discords aint the problem
warm plinth
Oh he's THAT guy
cinder kiln
no people like you are the problem
lusty grotto
i contributed you bitching in chat
warm plinth
That was a wild encounter
lusty grotto
🙂
warm plinth
I still don't know what I did wrong there. It keeps me up at night.
lusty grotto
show dont tell 🙂
cinder kiln
i contributed you bitching in chat
i put u back down to earth
lusty grotto
did you now lmao
cinder kiln
"LMAOSDDFUI"
mighty valley
3am?
cinder kiln
tell me ure 59 unemployed
cinder kiln
using childrens expressions
warm plinth
and I finally say
lusty grotto
if it makes you feel better
warm plinth
I'm sorry
for acting that way
I didn't really mean to
make you cry
Ok I'm done now
lusty grotto
using childrens expressions
youre that easy to manipulate
solid sun
mighty valley
I was gonna go with Matchbox 20 but that works too
cinder kiln
manipulate? 😄 for what
undone beacon
warm plinth
I was gonna go with Matchbox 20 but that works too
I think that's uh...Jason Aldean?
lusty grotto
remember when i asked you to keep going?
lusty grotto
go on
lusty grotto
amazing
cinder kiln
your ego checked for a good while
lusty grotto
have i?
cinder kiln
LOVELY
cinder kiln
bruh ure clown
warm plinth
Harrow how are you doing
cinder kiln
its obvious what youre trying to prove
lusty grotto
and what thaat
mighty valley
god this is like early 2000s irc flame wars
cinder kiln
😄
undone beacon
Ego Check? That reminds me, anyone have advice for taking Ego Check on myth gally