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vital slate
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Hey ! Got a question for the Prot War gods here, do you play Prot War Even in open world or do you switch to Fury ?

drowsy comet
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DPS be real silent after that

drowsy comet
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tho i kinda wanna have a darkiron dwarf warrior, but man leveling is ugh T_T

undone beacon
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Prot does good damage, no need to swap around for open world

undone beacon
drowsy comet
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i leveled 3 characters with TW over the last 2 weeks

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and tomorrow is the last day, idk if I can do another 7hrs of leveling

undone beacon
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or spend the cash to race/faction change smh

undone beacon
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then simply dont have a dark iron warrior

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smh

drowsy comet
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but they are cool

drowsy comet
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guess my Tauren Warrior gotta stay up

jagged pier
toxic pewter
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Isn’t everyone saying Tauren very good goin into midnight cuz stun never stop working even for a mini stun interrupt

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Plus solid other racials

jagged pier
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yes but everyone has stops

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so why give up the free cleanse

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espically to bleeds

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in high keys

undone beacon
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because moo cow

lusty grotto
toxic pewter
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Yeah dwarf still best

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I will say vulpera got stronger too

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Cuz of avatar no longer giving rage

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Makes diving into packs easier with zero rage

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Granted that not a huge deal but it breaks the ice of a fresh pack slightly better

lusty grotto
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yeah vulpera is still stupid strong

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probably still the strongest horde race

jagged pier
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vulps always been super stong free 10% dr

remote ocean
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did they change the vulpera racial?

lusty grotto
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no

toxic pewter
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They changed bag of tricks a bit ago added a slow to it for damage/minor speed increase when you heal. Actually feels like throwing out a mini word of glory like a paladin lol. Adds a bit of fun slight utility

undone beacon
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vulpera sadge

lusty grotto
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they didnt change the reason why its the strongest horde race

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the rest is whatever

toxic pewter
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Honestly vulpera should have got Druid over zandalari troll. Yes I said it. I will go to my death thinking this. Would have been first short Druid race.

remote ocean
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u all told me race didnt matter, and i went drakthyr, WAS I LIED TO

lusty grotto
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it doesnt

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its min maxy

remote ocean
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i swear on me mum

jagged pier
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it doesnt matter at all

toxic pewter
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Dracthyr is solid and owns to be honest

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Very solid race

lusty grotto
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you dont need that shit unless youre pushing rank 1 keys or doing RWF

remote ocean
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double jump is insanely good quality of life

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ah i see.

toxic pewter
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Yes it’s actually top 5 race in my opinion

remote ocean
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also everyone knows, if you're cute you deal more damage, both in game and irl.

jagged pier
undone beacon
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Yeah race doesnt matter for 99% of the playerbase

lusty grotto
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oh i agree Jakey

undone beacon
jagged pier
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oh 3

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jaina, KJ and mugzee

toxic pewter
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Are there lot of stuff night elf’s can shadowmeld in midnight

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Prob some I bet

jagged pier
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pot was introduced

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so yes but u pot it now

toxic pewter
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Oh yeah I always forget about the pot

lusty grotto
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theres never nothing you can meld

toxic pewter
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It’s actually wild how gnome has gone up too in PvP since we can’t break out of roots as easily

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Even in pve I bet gnome not awful

lusty grotto
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uhhh

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gnome has always been extremely good for warrior in pvp

toxic pewter
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Yes but now even better

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It’s actually risen even more

lusty grotto
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sure, because some specs dont play bladestorm

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so thats an entire slow/root removal thats gone

dusky canopy
toxic pewter
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Ya plus avatar root break gone and

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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that also

toxic pewter
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Rally would break root in PvP too

lusty grotto
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i keep forgetting about that

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the avatar thing

jagged pier
lusty grotto
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lol brew just blazin

dusky canopy
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Shoot all weekend practically

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Wedding Friday

toxic pewter
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did they go through with it

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did anyone object

dusky canopy
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Hosted a get together Saturday so had to clean and all that

toxic pewter
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do they still ask that at weddings

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'any objectors'

dusky canopy
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Sunday worked in my sled most of the day and football

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Now I’m back to work

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Where games!?

lusty grotto
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im playing the new Dune Awakening update

jagged pier
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well i ment like how long cause pot was made ages ago

lusty grotto
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😄

drowsy comet
lusty grotto
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dw brew, tons of shit releasing at the same time

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RE Requiem, Midnight, BF6 s2

dusky canopy
toxic pewter
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cool cool

drowsy comet
lusty grotto
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i dont care

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i still play it

dusky canopy
dusky canopy
drowsy comet
jagged pier
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dont do it (dont follow this advice)

toxic pewter
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taxes? I think u mean legal theft

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lol jk jk

drowsy comet
dusky canopy
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I love giving my earned income to my government to spend for me

drowsy comet
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instructions unclear im now incredibly rich

dusky canopy
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Lmao

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
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in that case, taxes dont apply to you apparently

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you just loophole everything

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so congrats

toxic pewter
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only suckers pay taxes it true

lusty grotto
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paying taxes sucks, but im okay with the idea

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given those stupid billionaires get taxed accordingly

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and there's complete transparency at where shit is being spent on

dusky canopy
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If our healthcare and schooling costs didn’t suck nut sack sure

lusty grotto
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which... you know murica and shit

dusky canopy
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But alas

jagged pier
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lets not go further down this path can go into waters we dont want to see in a public channel

drowsy comet
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im to european for this

lusty grotto
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we're all civil here

round pendant
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I'm not

toxic pewter
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love is in the air start today

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time to not get mounts

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repeatedly

undone beacon
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civil more like uhhhh

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swivel

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gottem

jagged pier
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the new mount is huge

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but i wont get it

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i never get the drops

dusky canopy
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Is it your mom?

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HAH Gottem

lusty grotto
undone beacon
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brew that was mean

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mods ban him

toxic pewter
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of the like 3 love mounts i havent gotten any i dont think

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guess i really am forever alone sadge

dusky canopy
toxic pewter
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omg lol love that

drowsy comet
jagged pier
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i need

drowsy comet
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i want this bike, thing

toxic pewter
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what bike thing

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the fel cycles?

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u guys got all 3 cycles or wat

undone beacon
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the broom?

jagged pier
undone beacon
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This thing goofy af

drowsy comet
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yes

toxic pewter
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ohh lmao i have that

lusty grotto
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i didnt get the mountain dew one

drowsy comet
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its not goofy, u are goody

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GOOFDY

undone beacon
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I didnt bother to go do incognitro yet because im a lazy bastard

toxic pewter
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I actually like that one

drowsy comet
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bruh

dusky canopy
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Goofdy

undone beacon
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this is the only cycle i need

dusky canopy
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The best cycle

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I never got one

undone beacon
toxic pewter
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jealous

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who else heartbroken seeing this

undone beacon
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this my fav part

toxic pewter
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lol never even noticed that

dusky canopy
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I should stop being lazy and go do the grind for that already

drowsy comet
undone beacon
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it is

jagged pier
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it is

toxic pewter
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WAIT WAT

lusty grotto
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should have been this

undone beacon
toxic pewter
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THAT FLIES?

undone beacon
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The broom do

toxic pewter
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ahh

lusty grotto
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also ffxiv made the same sin

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of blocking driver's view

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well, kind of

toxic pewter
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wwhoa

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that look cool

undone beacon
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utterly incomprehensible to my eyes

lusty grotto
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i think ffxiv's tire/wheel thing is kinda flat

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but yeah lmao

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dune made it better

lusty grotto
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LOOK AT MY GLORIOUS MOUSTACHE

toxic pewter
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is that a human are humans called humans in ff14

lusty grotto
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thats an au'ra

toxic pewter
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interesting

lusty grotto
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lizard humanoid

toxic pewter
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whoa

lusty grotto
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or dragon humanoid, rather

toxic pewter
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like a dracthyr

lusty grotto
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ehhh

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more humanoid like lol

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au'ra just have horns and a small tail

toxic pewter
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gotchha

lusty grotto
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there are humans yea

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humes, there's two versions

drowsy comet
lusty grotto
drowsy comet
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its gonna look faboulous

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bruh i misstyped and my message got blocked

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smh

drowsy comet
solid sun
lusty grotto
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1st dlc

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i didnt buy it but a friend gave me the parts

solid sun
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I missed out

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Daaaaaaaang

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Is it worth going back to play or is it dead

drowsy comet
solid sun
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Don’t give in to the negativity, big zwei 2hander papi

lusty grotto
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it surged on this new update

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to like 20k players ig

solid sun
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I enjoyed the base building enough

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I don’t necessarily care if the PvP part is dead ig

warm plinth
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Good morning

lusty grotto
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its pve full ass now

tribal wharf
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pvp is a by product of pve players

lusty grotto
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you go into the DD and there's like maybe 5 people in the entire thing

tribal wharf
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more pve, more pvp

lusty grotto
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not in Dune

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thats just an out of touch statement in Dune

solid sun
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Yeah you needed to go to the PvP area to get stuff

tribal wharf
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i never played dune ever

lusty grotto
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then why are you commenting on it

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thats what we're talking about, in case you didnt read the rest

tribal wharf
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back in my day, pvp arena was wrestlemania (random number) hulk hogan probably vs ultimate warrior

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so thats already long out of my system

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already saw it in 80s couple dudes fighting in a cage going ape shit

undone beacon
lusty grotto
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we're off to the tangent!

undone beacon
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The ultimate backseat

tribal wharf
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i've heard of dune, but i dont know what it truly is

lusty grotto
tribal wharf
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cuz there is like a million and 1 games that i have played

solid sun
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“I wanted to play some doom 64 but Chex quest was too hard and couldn’t beat it before starting a fresh playthrough of doom 64, so I deviated from my gaming agenda and started watching recordings of WCW pay-per-views on VHS”

tribal wharf
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my brain got fucking fried at like 7 years old, when i saw inspector gadget with a kid with an 80s version of an ipad , and a robot with a fucking helicopter that comes out of his hat and his finger is a key and a laser and a water gun and also a flashlight

lusty grotto
tribal wharf
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oh, and his car is actually 2 cars in 1

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
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a van that shape shifts into a damn sports car

drowsy comet
tribal wharf
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mid driving mind you

lusty grotto
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time for el yapperino is time off discord, see you later friends!

solid sun
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Lmao

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I’ll miss you, buddy

undone beacon
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Should i buy this

lusty grotto
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what in the fuck

undone beacon
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Its the same people who made Space Warlod Organ Trading Simulator

tribal wharf
# lusty grotto accurate

doom 64 and chex quest mod (for dooom 1 sucks) and yes about wrestling but no it was always wwf wwe in our household then others

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and vhs?

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crt yes

undone beacon
tribal wharf
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vhs, is uhh, vhs is only for crt lolol

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its a vibe

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crt abso god damn lutely

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its a magic box of glass that wont die for 100 years if you treat it right

tribal wharf
chilly brook
lusty grotto
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nah

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apparently the new savage tier is a banger

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but also harder than the other 2

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and those were already fucking good

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i wanna play as well but im sufficiently entertained with other games

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maybe when there's a lull

solid sun
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I always wanna play ffxiv

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But I never have ffxiv buddies to play with

undone beacon
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i have no interest in sinking time into other mmos tbh

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If wow isnt doing it for me I have other genres to mess with

remote ocean
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invaluable.

solid sun
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Meh

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Most genres are poop

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Except the genres I like

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I’d chow down on a quality RPG

undone beacon
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I still have to play Control or kanga is going to kill me irl for realsies

solid sun
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I like whatever genre Peak is

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Party games?

undone beacon
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Friendslop?

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Aint nothing wrong with a lil friendslop

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Not my style but

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Theres a list of games I need to go through and 100% at some point

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Superhot, Picayune, Inscryption, Dredge, RoR2

solid sun
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Risk of rain 2?

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Awesome game

undone beacon
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Very fun game indeed

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I was working on the Eclipse grind but a string of bad runs pushed me to take a break

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Almost 100% again, new DLC release ruined that

solid sun
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I want to like dredge but I’m pretty sure the best ending is Cthulhu wins and I don’t like sad endings

undone beacon
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I like-a da fishin

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I 100%'ed the base game but havent gotten the DLCs so I lost my lil 100% ribbon

solid sun
undone beacon
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Used to be 9 sadgers

solid sun
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Did you ever play that scuba game

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Scuba Steve or some shit

undone beacon
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Dave the Diver?

solid sun
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Yeah that

undone beacon
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I bought it on sale but havent really played it much

solid sun
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That seems like a fun game to 100%

undone beacon
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I have a lot of games i need to grind out smh

dusky canopy
undone beacon
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I fuckin LOVE slay the princess

solid sun
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Oh and there’s a dungeon delver game where you return to town and sell shit

undone beacon
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Amazing visual novel choose your own adventure type game

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Beautiful art and some really touching stories

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My only complaint is some of the line delivery from the princess's VA is a bit cheesy

solid sun
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All this going on and you wanna buy space baby capitalism game

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Smh

undone beacon
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Hey look I played the OG and that game was fun af

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Damn im only 2 achieves off of 100%ing Mouthwashing I should go back and do that

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Maybe I'll torture myself and play Cruelty Squad

solid sun
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Why is that torture

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Is it a bad game

vocal locust
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quick question, sorry to bother. Is there a point to having rend in my bars or just ignore since thunderclap applies rend?

lusty grotto
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just make sure its talented

vocal locust
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why does it even exist i feel this for a while

lusty grotto
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thats it

vocal locust
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just so thunderclap procs it?

undone beacon
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If you have it talented it applies on thunder clap

lusty grotto
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read thunderclap's tooltip

undone beacon
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If you dont have it talented it doesnt apply on thunder clap

lusty grotto
undone beacon
vocal locust
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i see thanks

solid sun
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I’m trying to find the words

toxic pewter
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still dont understand the nerfs we getting tomorrow

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are all warrior specs doing giga dam I am not aware of or something

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oh apparently in raids we are a b it ahead

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demolish getting 65% buff tomorrow O_O

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still feel like im missing something

undone beacon
mighty valley
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maximum demolish should balance out, the first low-stack demolish will be less wimpy

toxic pewter
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still though 65% increase vs 25% nerf ( at full stacks)

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nnot bad trade

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yo guys check out wat i spent my final dinars on

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LOL u like

red tree
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You should have gotten hero track

remote ocean
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do you all know if its per character or per account the shot at getting the valentines mount?

toxic pewter
tribal wharf
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i still will never regret dinaring the leash in sl and then macroing it to the healer ever dungeon

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the one that was a cup was actual trash for DR trinket

undone beacon
remote ocean
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oh, whats sweeper and butterfly?

undone beacon
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Love Witch's Sweeper and Spring Butterfly, just two other mounts they added last and this year respectively

remote ocean
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ohh

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nice

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😄

toxic pewter
undone beacon
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imagine not spendsing prepatch dinars on hero track weapons to get transmogs

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nerd

lusty grotto
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mine are spent in my bags

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because the vendor has the mogs

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the renown one

undone beacon
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Yeah but those are bought with an item with a shit drop chance off salhadaar

lusty grotto
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true

undone beacon
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if y'aint gonna use the dinars anyways might as well pick up like, idk the hero soulbinder staff and get the hero+myth mogs

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Or the dimmy mace

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or whatever you're missing lol

lusty grotto
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nimchipadin got the dimmy mace like 2 weeks ago so im good

toxic pewter
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but had it to do it for the giggles

lusty grotto
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congratulations on your... 50 gold?

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lol

toxic pewter
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lol

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sigh

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now i feel like I misse transmog

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HOW WILL I LIVE WITH THIS SHAME

undone beacon
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meh you can always go get it next xpac when people are farming the raid for dwagon anyways

lusty grotto
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yea

toxic pewter
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true

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still tho

undone beacon
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Just a convienent way to get some now if you are sitting on dinars

toxic pewter
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at least i got my codex peepoHappy

undone beacon
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Go to your player house and make a shrine to Codex

toxic pewter
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yes

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can they let us display items

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is that a thing actually

undone beacon
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No but its just a book so that is easy to replicate

toxic pewter
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they need to add armor /weapon/jewelry/trinket displays asap

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that should be very high on to do list imo

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surely people want that

undone beacon
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They talked about adding ways to showcase weapons and armor but idk how you would display trinkets and jewelery

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Unless it’s like a Minecraft item frame lol

toxic pewter
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yeah I dunno like jewely frames yeah

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can maybe set them on furniture, etc

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but that amount of art for jewelry needed does seem a bit over the top yeah

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since they dont really have art assets vs armor and weapons

solid sun
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It isn’t just a book, pash

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It’s the dadgum fabled codex

spare tartan
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imagine, if blizz is so peak to everyone expecting weaker classes to get buffed that they just launch with class balance as is on beta.

lusty grotto
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yes the dadgum fabled sellittovendor

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wut

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did those people forget the last two expansion beta and releases?

solid sun
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Probably

toxic pewter
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ppl without mythic codex just jealous

lusty grotto
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not probably

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definitely did

solid sun
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Tbh I feel like I rarely remember how tuning goes

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I just know pwar can block and blocking is strong af

lusty grotto
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you dont cause at least tank balance has been very good for the last 3 expnasions

solid sun
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Yeah I don’t remember too many things being out of wack

lusty grotto
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just paladins being garbage

solid sun
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Bdk enjoyers usually complain about dying I feel like

lusty grotto
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which is... normal

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dying as a bdk is a skill issue

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or at least has been for a bit

solid sun
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Speaking of bdk

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Where’s happy

lusty grotto
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oh shit u right

solid sun
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Isn’t happy usually our resident bdk

lusty grotto
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@sharp gale wya

sharp gale
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Hi

dusky canopy
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You gotta summon happy with French

lusty grotto
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how are you happy

dusky canopy
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Frappe Mortelle!!

lusty grotto
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hon hon baguette

dusky canopy
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🥖

lusty grotto
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oui

solid sun
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Woah happy has on a serious hat

sharp gale
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Sacre bleu que me voulez vous

solid sun
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No more jokes? No goofs and gags?

lusty grotto
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what you been doing happy

sharp gale
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Im playing the most autistic games i can find

lusty grotto
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sounds awesome

sharp gale
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And unemployment

lusty grotto
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oh rip

sharp gale
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It was expected unemploymentc I finished my degree last summer

lusty grotto
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congrats!

solid sun
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Grats!

sharp gale
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It’s just I’m not really actively looking for a job yet

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Even tho I’m on French unemployment

lusty grotto
solid sun
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Are you ready for Midnight

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Fully gassed up

sharp gale
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Sure but the hype is dead bc prepatch is boring, I had more fun in previous prepatch

lusty grotto
solid sun
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How’s bdk looking

sharp gale
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I didn’t look prot that deep since I didn’t play tank in S3, i suppose it didn’t change since the rework

lusty grotto
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well

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current beta prot is kinda fucked

undone beacon
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What the heck serious hat happy

sharp gale
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I took a small break on wow in S3, I only played my warrior in raid, so dps, I didn’t even tank a key

lusty grotto
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cause revenge does more dmg than execute

undone beacon
sharp gale
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Spreadsheet games

lusty grotto
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and the whole "use TC instead of TB" thing fucking blows

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i hope they fix

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but we will see

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those are the big two

sharp gale
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Oh, yes, I’m not worry at all about tc, it doesn’t even enter my brain so obvious it will be fixed

lusty grotto
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my thoughts exactly

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but still worth mentioning

sharp gale
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Similar to bladestorm not being taken as slayer for fury

undone beacon
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Yes bug fixes the thing blizz really likes doing sadgers

sharp gale
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What’s up on the bear

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Idk much about bdk, I never look into it, I just play it

solid sun
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It has 1100 bugs

lusty grotto
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they did fix bladestorm didnt they? or maybe the buff wasnt enough

sharp gale
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It’s not enough even with all hero talents, but only in ST like now, it’s just AM avatar issue

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Having to compete in ST against a 20% dmg up for 20 sec that often

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Design issue with avatar imo, not really bs issue

lusty grotto
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yeah its just tuning

sharp gale
undone beacon
# sharp gale What’s up on the bear

Mostly just bugged to hell and back. Apex talent final node is a DPS loss, bunch of talents and interactions just don’t work, it’s great on paper but implemented very poorly atm

lusty grotto
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i heard its a lot of fun to play

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outside of those issues

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in comparison with TWW i guess

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but DotC was already fun

undone beacon
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It’s designed well and is still fun but when a bunch of the cool new toys don’t work it really diminishes the experience

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Removing Thorns of Iron was huge

lusty grotto
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i see i see

undone beacon
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They also more or less killed catweaving

lusty grotto
undone beacon
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It’s tuned really low and some new talents discourage catweaving entirely

lusty grotto
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well shit

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wait wait Archi update

sharp gale
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i can understand why they don't like catweaving tbf

lusty grotto
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nuuuuu

sharp gale
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it is not fun the worse you are

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and most ppl are bad

undone beacon
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I mean they built DotC with catweaving in mind as a viable option but

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They shot the ripweaving damage bonus by a lot, and between double mangle charges and Killing Blow encouraging you to pool rage, there just isn’t room for it cleanly in the rotation

sharp gale
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you pool rage but you have no dead gcd ?

undone beacon
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You fill with Swipe to fish for gore procs

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Because going cat form dumps all your rage

sharp gale
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my only reference to catweaving is when i play my rdruid, so i try to understand, i like it but it is VERY stressful at first

undone beacon
#

Catweaving as Bear was super chill

sharp gale
#

don't you just die?

undone beacon
#

You played Wildpower Surge in DotC, so every 6 mangles you got a buff that gave you 5 combo points and a juiced Rip or FB

sharp gale
#

or it's just offtank catweaving

undone beacon
#

Nah there’s a talent that lets you retain ironfur in cat form, plus 80% of base bear armor for a short time

#

So you essentially would mangle 6 times, Fluid Form Rake/Shred to go into cat, drop an empowered Rip, and then Fluid Form Mangle back to bear

sharp gale
#

that seems cool, why it doesn't really work in this form ?

#

just bugs ?

undone beacon
#

1: the tuning is bad. They nerfed the empowered rip a lot
2: going into cat immediately deletes all your rage. This was fine before cuz you could spam ironfur to turn it into damage but now we want to pool some rage to get stronger Maul/Raze/Ravage with a new talent
3: with the talent for double mangle, we have less downtime in the rotation for general catweaving between globals

sharp gale
#

idk if this situation seems intentional or accidental, they do placeholder things they don't plan on being played first (or at all)

undone beacon
#

I’d imagine it was intentional, in line with the intended reduction in complexity for most specs

#

Like you can still do it but the gain is now marginal vs being quite substantial with proper play

lusty grotto
#

yeah but...

#

the problem is what you mentioned, dotc was designed for weaving

#

so its breaking that design

undone beacon
#

I mean, yeah but even then the weaving was always optional

lusty grotto
#

right

undone beacon
#

Since Surge is on a choice node with Empowered Shapeshifting (I think)

lusty grotto
#

eh its fine i guess

undone beacon
#

Which is just more mangle damage and Magic DR

#

idk I enjoyed ripweaving in raids once I got used to it, had some fun engagement and a modicum of thought behind it

drowsy comet
sharp gale
#

few things are hard to evaluate before 10 million ppl collective intelligence do its job, no gcd space for cat weaving can’t be intentional

undone beacon
#

Tho I def ate tank busters as a cat a few times

#

Yeah it’s a weird decision overall but, we will see

#

I will die on the hill that EC Boomkin weaving can work

lusty grotto
#

methinks they should do another tuning pass before they code freeze for 12.0.0

#

the TC/TB shit is just... janky

#

and Rev/Exe

sharp gale
#

Methinks they can’t do any more push before launch

lusty grotto
#

yeah i guess

#

but they can do it on live

undone beacon
#

Honestly I think that the passes that happen tomorrow are what we’re gonna start S1 with

sharp gale
#

I expect in the dead timing before season comes out, they will have more data

lusty grotto
#

i guess they can just tackle those in week 0 for the idiots that bought the $90 edition

#

yeah

#

or then an there, since nothing really happens during those weeks

#

like you mentioned

undone beacon
#

Time will tell

#

I’m just sad they nerfed shadow for some reason :(((

coarse bay
#

Idk id be surprised if we hit the season with current tuning

lusty grotto
#

right but the thing is

#

usually tuning, you know the throughput that certain abilities need to do

#

you just tune up or down

#

but in the case of TC and TB...

sharp gale
#

tuning is likely, but hard code idk the name like changing a talent, i don't see it before the season

lusty grotto
#

idk it feels weird

undone beacon
#

All I know is that if they fix all the bugs AND keep the bear buffs then bear is gonna be giga damage for at least a week

coarse bay
#

Ya there’s another full pass that should happen, too much is still borked rn or out of line in terms of tuning

lusty grotto
#

like if they expect TB throughput to be less than TC, and they tune based on that expectation... shit is fucked

#

i dont usually like to think blizzard 2.0 is that dumb but

#

the vanilla player in me worries

sharp gale
#

i never see blizzard as dumb

coarse bay
#

Pwar changes were out of left field when you compare it to the state of some of the other tanks

sharp gale
#

even in kotick's maze, they were not dumb

lusty grotto
#

oh for sure

#

for both of you, rather

round pendant
#

I got the drop guys

#

are you happy for me

lusty grotto
#

what drop

coarse bay
#

Grats

#

The drop

#

Huge

undone beacon
#

Not the drop bro

lusty grotto
#

congrats on the drop!

undone beacon
#

That’s crazy

round pendant
#

ignore the unfortunate cropping I was too excited and fucked up the screenshot

undone beacon
#

LMAO

round pendant
coarse bay
#

Mmm

sharp gale
#

crazy cropping yes

lusty grotto
#

LOL

round pendant
#

lmao

#

it's just a fat drop on poe btw

#

if y'all aren't poe players you won't get it

zenith star
#

Vaal it

undone beacon
#

Prismatic Jew would be a crazy nickname

round pendant
#

but I had to tell somebody

lusty grotto
#

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.

#

did i pasta right

undone beacon
#

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.

round pendant
toxic pewter
toxic pewter
dusky canopy
lusty grotto
#

brew is having a seizure

sharp gale
#

Larias effect

dusky canopy
#

Lmao

undone beacon
dusky canopy
daring marlin
#

you're dun dude

#

cooked

dusky canopy
#

I’m calling the blue folks

#

Smh my head

cerulean tusk
solid sun
#

I love that you hit the crop, understood what happened, pre-warned about the bad crop, and then sent it

solid sun
#

Instead of just retaking the snip

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
#

he just full sent the "fuck it!"

solid sun
#

Lmfaoooooo

dusky canopy
#

Yam be like
cash me ouside howbouddaat

toxic pewter
#

People have called me prismatic before

dusky canopy
#

Things that didn’t happen for 300 Alex

toxic pewter
#

lol sadge

solid sun
#

Palms sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy, send a bad crop, moms spaghetti

round pendant
dusky canopy
round pendant
#

if I dropped the item it wouldn't be aligned with the drops so it'd be clear I picked the item up and dropped it again

toxic pewter
#

its a good crop

round pendant
#

Not as authentic

dusky canopy
#

@lusty grotto
How much space do fungi need to grow?
||as mushroom as possible||

remote ocean
#

holy. the warfront campaign goes so hard, the whole tyrande becoming the night warrior thing.

#

that was so cool.

dusky canopy
#

Well yeah hello

#

“Became a warrior”

#

Warrior

#

🔥

remote ocean
#

😄

lusty grotto
#

im gonna say 2 squared inches

#

but im def wrong

dusky canopy
#

The real answer is this one
||deez nuts, HAH Gottem||

solid sun
dusky canopy
#

Lmao

undone beacon
lusty grotto
#

have i told you guys i always laugh at the guy smashing the thing on the wall

solid sun
#

Why is he smashing it lol

#

What’s that from

lusty grotto
#

i have no idea

#

and then the guy just falls on the table

coarse bay
dusky canopy
toxic pewter
#

🤔

round pendant
toxic pewter
vast epoch
coarse bay
solid sun
#

Guys

#

I hope y’all are having a good evening

lusty grotto
#

NO

#

U

solid sun
#

And if you aren’t doing that I hope you’re having a good some other part of the day

coarse bay
#

Because youre better

remote ocean
#

does anyone have an easy charge/intervene macro?

#

oh wth, nvm, mine already does that, when did that happen

frozen cypress
#

Question, because I can't find shit, what exactly does Shield Block do? Does it just do white melee damage? Or all white damage including ranged white damage? Or can it also block specific boss abilities that state melee damage?

undone beacon
solid sun
#

What’s the new handgun

solid sun
undone beacon
undone beacon
#

With the built in comp

solid sun
#

Flush or extendo

undone beacon
#

Flush

#

It’s a slick little thing, figured I’d finally put the money down and get an actual piece

solid sun
#

Heck yeah nice choice dude

tribal wharf
solid sun
#

Yogi I’m connecting with pash over common interest

tribal wharf
#

carry on then

#

this is just an important image i neded to relay

solid sun
tribal wharf
#

we have chaos winter where i am at door locks literal freezing up

#

guns are fun and all but i like games and not shooting ranges

frozen cypress
undone beacon
tribal wharf
#

they never let you fire an rpg at the range or grenades

undone beacon
tribal wharf
#

if i was born in america i would be more of a gun nut,

solid sun
frozen cypress
#

Thanks though for the details

undone beacon
tribal wharf
#

red dot is world wide famous for a reason, it works

solid sun
#

Think it’s compact enough? I’ve been thinking about a handgun that my wife could also handle, but she has Keebler Elf hands

tribal wharf
#

i dislike most iiron sights, bht i dont want rifle zoom niether

undone beacon
#

It’s pretty compact, but there’s def smaller options. My mom has this tiny little thing that packs a punch, I’ll have to ask her what it is exactly because it feels great to shoot even with big hands

#

idk I like ironsights, but I don’t do a lot of long range target shooting

#

The green dot throws me off but I’ve never used a dot optic on a handgun

tribal wharf
#

i like simple cross and dot scopes

#

sights rather, i mean for pistol, do you really need sights

solid sun
#

Yogi needs the sights that zoom in when you hold down a button

tribal wharf
#

like you point it where you ant the bullet to go and it goes there

tribal wharf
#

but i know exactly thinhs id want in a gun

#

but im not amerucan so could onky ever get a shotgun or riflefor hunting purposes

#

has to be put away licks all time until hunt or shooting range

solid sun
#

Have you ever seen a moose plow through a house, yogi

tribal wharf
#

through a car yes

#

totally fucks a csr

#

like, massive dmg

#

a moose is fuckung huge and if it got in a restaruant say and got mad it would destroy everything

urban bane
#

what if it got in a level from doom 2

forest lagoon
solid sun
#

Moose would be awesome to ride

tribal wharf
#

but gun sights really and truly i feel its you pick the sight or scope that makes sense like you not gunna put a 4x-8x scope on a 9mm pistol or shotgun right

#

and your not going to put a red dot on rifle

forest lagoon
tribal wharf
#

just be normalabout it, god damnit

#

is what im trying to say

#

why the fuck you need a red laser flashlight and 80 round extended mag for pistol

#

you dont

forest lagoon
#

You don't need a visible spectrum laser for anything except for slave zeroing an IR laser without having to zero in the dark with NVGs

lusty grotto
#

lmao @ people getting yogi'd

#

rock on yogi, rock on

toxic pewter
#

Which one of you is this

strong forum
#

me

lusty grotto
#

also me

tribal wharf
#

i dunno man lol, just a simple handgun pistol seems really simple

frosty mango
#

You beat me lul

tribal wharf
#

seems like most of them you dont need acesories for

toxic pewter
undone beacon
#

Roid i feel like i havent seen u in here in forever

#

how are ya bud

lusty grotto
#

HOW ARE YOU ROID

toxic pewter
toxic pewter
undone beacon
#

also apb i thought you had like a three day nitro trial are you paying for it now

tribal wharf
#

never for ms

toxic pewter
#

Getting my animated emojis in while I can

tribal wharf
#

same for yt premium i will never buy that shit as well

toxic pewter
#

Indeed

tribal wharf
#

even though both i could see benefits of

toxic pewter
#

Yeah I can’t deny I would love YouTube premium just can’t justify the cost

undone beacon
#

adblock my beloved

tribal wharf
#

i would want entire internet ad blocker 100$ a month, removes all omline advertising even phone and tv

#

blocks fucking everything

#

all websites

frosty mango
#

I’m alive

#

Building big ai things

#

Very busy

#

Wayyyyy more interest than we thought

lusty grotto
#

mmhmm

#

im gonna go ahead a blame you for the data centers and ram pricing

#

jk

tribal wharf
#

should have bought earlier

frosty mango
#

Actually we’re focused on local ai solutions

#

That’s why demand is so insanely high

lusty grotto
#

yeah i know

#

im just joking

frosty mango
#

I do miss wow

#

A little

lusty grotto
#

nothing to miss right now

#

pre patch is pre patch

frosty mango
#

I was still helping with mount reclears up until Feb 1 but I haven’t really actually played since we got CE months ago

lusty grotto
#

i havent even done the pre patch event lmao

undone beacon
#

Big AI dev work

#

Glad things are going well though

frosty mango
#

Yeah lots of code though which makes me sad

undone beacon
#

Better to be busy

frosty mango
#

Python is gross

undone beacon
#

Crazy for that, python is chill

lusty grotto
frosty mango
#

It’s slow and kludgey

lusty grotto
#

how dare you

frosty mango
#

But it has the best libraries for llm work so alas

lusty grotto
#

says the java dev

undone beacon
#

To be fair I havent gotten to code anything in a while, its all different flavors of query languages for me now sadge

frosty mango
#

Or maybe c#

lusty grotto
#

oh no, ill allow that one

#

i hate it

#

but hey thats where my experience is

frosty mango
#

Port to go

#

Be happy

lusty grotto
#

i mean you already know, im pretty sure i mentioned it to you before, but we havent trained LLMs since we got bought out

frosty mango
#

Every day I get the world closer to putting oracle out of existence is a better day for me

lusty grotto
#

🤝

#

take palantir with you too

#

and microsoft

frosty mango
#

I’m doing a lot of novel hybrid work, combining cloud stuff with local vector and tool use, and model routing to do like a hybrid local/cloud thing based on need

#

Has worked very well it’s super interesting work

undone beacon
#

Sounds like fun dev work tho

frosty mango
#

Yeah better than my day to day of ops

undone beacon
#

Sometimes I wish i was more in dev but

#

My current gig is so chill

lusty grotto
#

im bored out of my mind at work

#

but

undone beacon
#

Except I caused an incident on accident the other day

lusty grotto
#

it pays

undone beacon
#

whoops

#

we love pay tho

#

big money

lusty grotto
#

i considered it pretty chill but for months now ive just felt im staying behind

frosty mango
#

We had 6000 endpoints go down bc someone didn’t update root certs

#

Do you know how many emails I sent

warm plinth
#

7

frosty mango
#

At least 30

#

Up to the cert expiring

warm plinth
#

That's more than 7

undone beacon
#

Damn

frosty mango
#

Indeed it is

undone beacon
#

I brought down one of our VPN firewalls because I guess it couldnt handle 4000 concurrent EDR upgrades

#

That was cool

frosty mango
#

Now you know

undone beacon
#

Well I was pushing them out in batches of 10k+ until I hit that site

#

They were... pissed but like damn cmon we need better infrastructure then

frosty mango
#

“Vendor documentation erroneously stated parallel upgrades possible”

warm plinth
#

I hacked into it while the firewall was down. Don't @ me

lusty grotto
#

ive had like 10 vibe coding incidents in the last 3 fucking months

#

on my team

#

at least that part is eventful

#

but its also mildly infuriating

#

like yeah go ahead and vibe code all you want BUT FUCKING CHECK THE RESULTS

warm plinth
#

I'll check your results

#

Gottem

lusty grotto
#

critical 👏 thinking 👏 please 👏

round pendant
#

or how about

#

don't vibe code and do your job properly

#

this seems like the best solution

#

but I could be taking crazy pills

lusty grotto
#

i honestly dont mind it

#

but you cant be a total rookie doing it

round pendant
#

I forgot nothing functioned and nobody was productive before the magical AIs came and saved us

solid sun
#

I can pipe a house

lusty grotto
#

if you just agent your way into a task/story/etc you eventually cause issues

#

its just way faster yam

undone beacon
#

yeah AI in dev work isnt the worst thing but people who treat it as a finished product need to be smacked

lusty grotto
#

yup

undone beacon
#

Its been nice for cyber ops work to pull relevant information a bit faster or touch up queries

lusty grotto
#

its amazing for documentation, boilerplate, data analysis

#

for suggestions, etc,

#

but these people need to check what the agent is doing

#

or what the chatbot is suggesting

round pendant
#

It's bad at all those things

solid sun
#

AI is so weird to me because it seems like such a big deal and everyone has all these opinions about it and my peers and I don’t know anything about it. Until a few days ago I thought ChatGPT was ai

lusty grotto
#

you cant just let it hallucinate some garbage

round pendant
#

Simply because you fundamentally cannot trust anything it outputs

lusty grotto
#

thats false yam

#

sorry

round pendant
#

You're an idiot

#

sorry

undone beacon
#

I mean, AI should never be designed to replace the work of people, only supplement and support it

#

Using it to expedite data analysis for example is incredibly helpful, but you wouldn't/shouldn't just shit out an AI summary of a dataset and turn that in to your boss

lusty grotto
#

shrug

#

15 y/o dev experience, currently senior tech dev

toxic pewter
#

Truth is if you aren’t using ai other people are and will outpace u

lusty grotto
#

thats me

undone beacon
#

Completely writing it off is reductive and narrow

lusty grotto
#

but hey im an idiot

#

what do you know

undone beacon
#

You can disagree with the ethics of it environmentally or the quality of its output but like, broadly dismissing new technology is weirdly reductive idk

solid sun
#

Nimchip isn’t dumb

lusty grotto
solid sun
#

I’ll say this

#

I don’t like AI taking over art stuff

#

It gives me the ick

frosty mango
lusty grotto
#

he doesnt know what the correct way to vibe code is WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT IM MENTIONING

frosty mango
#

Vibe coding is the devil tho

solid sun
#

I feel like y’all just agreed and disagreed simultaneously

#

Am I taking crazy pills

frosty mango
#

It’s called violent agreement

#

Real thing

lusty grotto
#

people associate vibe coding with whatever the fuck those addon makers were doing

#

and that aint it

frosty mango
#

I just have my 54 Claude agents do everything

#

There’s no vibe

#

Because I am not there

solid sun
#

If I ask Grok to write a program that does a task, am I vibe coding

frosty mango
#

AFK coding

lusty grotto
#

yes rhino

#

if you dont understand whatever the fuck comes out of grok, then thats the "wrong way" to do it

solid sun
#

Damn

#

I’ll never be able to create an addon

lusty grotto
#

and if you complain someone else copied your code cause Grok pulled it out some public git's ass, youre also an idiot

#

not you specifically, but whoever does it

solid sun
#

I wanted to make an addon that gave boomstick a red dot

#

Thought yogi would like it

lusty grotto
#

its as easy as

#

if you have a roomba or whatever brand vacuum, you ocassionally check how its doing yeah/

#

sometimes you have to... vacuum places it cant reach

#

thats vibe coding correctly

#

but if you leave the fucking thing to do what it wants, some places will stay dirty

#

thats bad vibe coding

#

not only that but it can cause huge issues (electrical, fires, etc)

#

i dont personally vibe code, except for very basic boilerplate - and only because IDEs already did it

#

but

#

im completely okay with the kids in my teams doing it

#

so long as they fucking check their shit

round pendant
#

Personally I don't want to babysit a schizophrenic junior that can't actually understand problems or learn anything

lusty grotto
#

and go through the process of getting code reviewed by me and our guys

solid sun
#

Boilerplates are where I find model numbers and manufacturing dates for water heaters

#

Me asking nimchip to check my code

round pendant
#

???

lusty grotto
#

its part of the job Rhino heh

lusty grotto
#

good luck

#

also try to take anthropic too on that

#

and open ai

round pendant
#

Ah, might makes right I guess?

lusty grotto
#

are you dense

#

did you completely miss

#

the context?

#

all three of them vibe coded

#

2 of them fucking complained about being copied

#

WHEN THEY VIBE CODED THEMSELVES

#

do you get it now?

round pendant
#

No you specifically said "because Grok pulled it out of some public git's ass"

lusty grotto
#

i did

round pendant
#

which is not relevant to the addon vibe coders so I figured you were speaking broadly about vibe coding in general

lusty grotto
#

with that the addon maker's context

round pendant
#

They weren't complaining because their public code was stolen by grok

#

they were complaining because they're stupid and thought the other guy literally took code from "their" addon

lusty grotto
#

the only ones that were good there were the elvui guys

#

everyone else is a doofus

round pendant
#

yeah elvui guys are fine

#

the danders guy and that other ui guy are just idiots

lusty grotto
#

right

#

so were quazii's guys

#

also morons

round pendant
#

wow addon code is just probably not a huge part of the llm's training data so it has a very high chance of just spitting out the same shit for similar prompts

lusty grotto
#

💯

solid sun
#

Is Quazii still peacing out

lusty grotto
#

seems like he did

#

yea

round pendant
#

Because AI doesn't and cannot and never will (in the form of LLMs) understand problems and come up with novel or at least meaningfully different solutions

#

It will and does just make shit up and hallucinations aren't even a bug, it's just how it works

solid sun
#

But like wait

#

I has a question

round pendant
#

Trusting it to produce anything that you don't have to go over with a fine tooth comb is just dumb

solid sun
#

When you’re doing this stuff isn’t there often a lot of math involved?

#

Is it copying if it’s math? Math kinda just is what it is right

lusty grotto
#

right yam, thats exactly what i meant

lusty grotto
#

than math, but definitely less so than something like... "art"

solid sun
#

Interesting

#

It’s computer science

round pendant
#

I don't agree that programming isn't art

solid sun
#

I feel lied to

lusty grotto
#

i was generalizing

round pendant
#

yeah but it's a common thought with people who shill ai slop tooling

#

oh it's fine because it's not like it's art

#

If you ignore the theft and environmental issues and also the insane grifting by the big tech suits, it's fine!

lusty grotto
#

unfortunately im not in a position where i can protest its use for those reasons

#

but if i were i would

#

if that makes sense

#

and as a properly used tool it is that good