What is the power trip here? You see it as a "hehe, look at dumb dog run after its own tail, I would never!" situation?
#protection
cerulean tusk
drowsy comet
just bald things
toxic pewter
I just do not appreciate humans that tease animals
we all know what is going on here
Dog cannot reach the thing they chasing
its impossible
cerulean tusk
I fear that they don't allow dogo to catch the treat in the end, but I dont know
drowsy comet
as i said, you can do the same thing with a human. Just need an idiot doing that
drowsy comet
theres alot out there actually
cerulean tusk
You believe this is their daily routine, and not just a somewhat funny event?
toxic pewter
I just call it like I see it
drowsy comet
if I throw a stick, would you bring it back to me apb, just curious 
drowsy comet
how about a ball
toxic pewter
You believe this is their daily routine, and not just a somewhat funny event?
doesn't even matter I just basing everything on the video
I do not need to know the extenuating circumstances to speak truth
drowsy comet
man its not that deep
toxic pewter
Maybe not to you.. and that is fine.
I stand up for truth in this life.
anytime, anywhere
cerulean tusk
The truth is that you dont know, based on that clip, if they allowed the dogo to catch the prey
drowsy comet
lol
cerulean tusk
You never had dogs chase things on a string, have you? Once they gotten good and riled up, gotten the exercise, you step in and let them get it
they love it
happy dogo
toxic pewter
its strange you keep going to the end
that you cannot see
making strange predictions
cerulean tusk
Cause that is what I do with dogo, I let them win
undone beacon
Good morning prot warriors
toxic pewter
I am basing on the actual video
cerulean tusk
its pretty natural to assume the dog owners would do the best thing for the dog
undone beacon
Jesus I tried to read back through chat to see what I missed but I simply cannot be assed
daring marlin
Jesus I tried to read back through chat to see what I missed but I simply cannot...
yeah not worth it lol
cerulean tusk
Jesus I tried to read back through chat to see what I missed but I simply cannot...
it is a lot up there 🍵
toxic pewter
just glad I was able to stand up for what is right
undone beacon
Something about Zweih being Khailby jr I guess and that’s about it
unreal yarrow
Seems about right
undone beacon
I was scrolling to see what apb @‘ed me for and caught glimpses of the conversation between now and like 3AM lmao
I saw the words incel and stinky feet and knew I didn’t miss much
toxic pewter
i was in bed and a fat bear appeared
undone beacon
New archon tier list just dropped
toxic pewter
why destro lock b tier
toxic pewter
cerulean tusk
cause fire mage and destro ALWAYS 
toxic pewter
ive never had any issues with locks personally
cerulean tusk
"So data shows..."
"What data?"
"The median DPS of..."
"Wait a moment."
three days layer
"..."
"So, our median DPS is low right?"
toxic pewter
mages tho yeah that true
drowsy comet
New archon tier list just dropped
undone beacon
Clearly fire is just an ineffective weapon against the void, therefore specs that use a lot of it suck
It’s immersive
drowsy comet
man why do mfs on reddit have to be so disgusting sometimes..
its genuinly concering
drowsy comet
Nah like fr
remote ocean
does anyone know what hte largest alliance servers are? im on a dead server and thinking about transfering
coarse bay
Theres a lot, depending what region you want
remote ocean
oh sorry, NA.
toxic pewter
NA alliance uhh stormrage
daring marlin
does anyone know what hte largest alliance servers are? im on a dead server and ...
Sargeras, Stormrage
toxic pewter
yeah sargeras has a lot
cerulean tusk
man why do mfs on reddit have to be so disgusting sometimes..
protip: Dont go to reddit
coarse bay
https://www.wowprogress.com/realms/rank/us
this is pretty good to go off tbh
coarse bay
oh sorry, NA.
I meant more like east coast west coast
daring marlin
redd0t lmao
drowsy comet
protip: Dont go to reddit
:(
undone beacon
Moon guard has a lot of alliance :trust:
cerulean tusk
...
drowsy comet
xD
cerulean tusk
Silvermoon is pretty active on the raid scene, but it is all crossrealm now, so who kinda cares?
undone beacon
I have a friend on moonguard who swears up and down he’s not there for the weird RP shit, visited his house the other day, it was all dance floors and hot tubs and stripper poles
cerulean tusk
Ravencrest is best server tho, no bias ofc 
remote ocean
im actually xfering off of moon guard. 😄
coarse bay
Tbf i think moonguard overall is a lot more normal now
jagged pier
realms mean noting
remote ocean
the idea of it sounds fun. but i tried to join an rp event and literally first second into it someone tried to e-sex me.
jagged pier
its not owrth the money
cerulean tusk
realms mean noting
no u
remote ocean
it could be fun, but it's just weirdos.
toxic pewter
wish i was on moonguard 
undone beacon
Moonguard weirdness is now a lot more self contained in housing and invite-only events
cerulean tusk
Jakey do be right tho, as I mentioned too, everything is shared nowdays
it doesnt matter
remote ocean
is the AH/crafting shared?
coarse bay
I figured since they asked for high pop it was more for just seeing a lot of people around. But ya realm doesnt actually matter besides your ping when solo/party lead
coarse bay
is the AH/crafting shared?
No but moonguard is good on that stuff
undone beacon
Sometimes when I’m bored I download TRP3 and check out goldshire
cerulean tusk
Pretty sure they made tradegoods shared at least
guess crafters would be the only issue
undone beacon
iirc AHs and crafting orders are realm specific still
coarse bay
Ah you can use warbound gold and buy on other realms
undone beacon
Moonguard has some of the cheaper decor you can buy on the AH
at least compared to Zul’jin
coarse bay
Ya honestly moonguard isnt really a bad realm to be on by any means
coarse bay
Some discrimination maybe but w/e
undone beacon
Trade goods yeah
coarse bay
Theres a lot still not cross realm on ah
cerulean tusk
Items ya can just transfer warband, so meh
toxic pewter
if i was alliance i would be on moonguard 100%
toxic pewter
da fuk
undone beacon
Moonguard just carries a reputation, like Ragnaros or Illidan or any of the other well known servers
cerulean tusk
Ravencrest is bestest
coarse bay
Ya im glad the days of changing realms to play with friends or join guilds is over
toxic pewter
damn ngl thats a cool pic
cerulean tusk
Told you, it is the place to be
drowsy comet
Ravencrest
Hufflepuff
undone beacon
Just another Drizzt Do’Urden cosplayer smh
remote ocean
gonna try sargeras, ty everyone (:
tribal wharf
cerulean tusk
Welcome back awake Yogi
tribal wharf
wtb 5070ti
coarse bay
Man i remember sargeras being considered toxic and tryhard back in ye day
tribal wharf
im pretty sure begging is against some kind of rule here
so i didnt even joke it the other day
drowsy comet
... ravencrest is kinda dope tho...
Hufflepuff is cooler
cerulean tusk
Where u trying to go with this Yogi?
cerulean tusk
then dont buy it, you poor
coarse bay
Do u need a 5080 to play doom
tribal wharf
and i dont feel like trading away rams
or my 4070
or stuff in my current pc
will have 3 pc by end of all this
super duper gaming pc
gaming pc
shit pc
coarse bay
What do u play that needs a better gpu
drowsy comet
the slutty desk is also 1000$
what desk costs 1000 bucks lol
tribal wharf
slutty desk
cerulean tusk
Please dont activate it
coarse bay
Wait the old wood one with drawers?
drowsy comet
slutty desk
...what did you do
tribal wharf
just one of those terms that just sticks
tribal wharf
drowsy comet
did u spill something over it?
tribal wharf
this is the el cheapo version
cerulean tusk
Not again
tribal wharf
the real version is 999.00
cerulean tusk
tribal wharf
i mean, i have the top for the desk already
the top of the desk i have now, is like an entire giant slab of 2 or 3 inch thick wood
MASSIVE
you could use it as a weapon
tribal wharf
but these 999$ desk
tribal wharf
they are have like, it has everything
has place to put pc, has built in electric routing and sockets
drowsy comet
get the metal desk thing
and get a plate afterwards
you gonna save alot
even tho 400 bucks.. think u get these for like 250 or 300 ish
tribal wharf
first though, 5070 5070ti, or 5080 or 9070xt
coarse bay
3 inch is insane
Yup
tribal wharf
if guy ever responds he sell it for cash and not trade for 5070ti that i dont have
i would TOTALLY use that 9070xt if buddy sell it to me
drowsy comet
mhm
remote ocean
Is there a way to show your characters alternate form (worgen/drakthyr) in the warband campsite? hm
undone beacon
Is there a way to show your characters alternate form (worgen/drakthyr) in the w...
Nope
remote ocean
thats sad.
coarse bay
Pash youre too fast
undone beacon
Quick on the draw baybeeee
undone beacon
thats sad.
Something I did for my drac was use the new transmog system to make a "warband" outfit thats just matching shoulders+belt, since i use the elite pvp set currently on my drac warr
Makes it look less goofy
tribal wharf
Nope
my thoughts on that are that those characters should do that at random on the warband screen
remote ocean
oh hm, any chances you'd show your warband campsite? id love to see it
for inspiration. 😄
tribal wharf
i mean, its not like wow is loading anything else in the background extra special at that stage
and then its , oh this is my worgen, this is my dracthyr
if you even have them
undone beacon
oh hm, any chances you'd show your warband campsite? id love to see it
This is mine rn
jagged pier
undone beacon
pfft yeah sure housing main, thats just until prop hunt drops
then its all prop hunt main all the time
coarse bay
Ill be farming decor for all the housing imports im finna copy
jagged pier
then its all prop hunt main all the time
labyrinth main 
undone beacon
big delve gamers in the house
i hope labyrinth delve is just og sunken temple with no changes
dusky canopy
proper roost
alright whats the yap i missed
dusky canopy
remote ocean
i hope labyrinth delve is just og sunken temple with no changes
what if we used 100% of the brain
thats u right now.
tribal wharf
see
this is a man who knows how to transmog
clearly a man of fashion
i cant so much say i like the other purple and gold one lol
u are thinking of sonic 1, has underwater lab
uplodaded 2008 lol
HE IS SO RIGHT about the drowning in sonic game
its a big meme
till u play sonic, and its a water level
and ur fucked for air bubbles
proper roost
proper roost
yogi don't post videos where people say gamer words
tribal wharf
always a gamble when upload year is 2008
proper roost
honestly i don't think i've heard someone drop the hard r as gamer slur in ages
maybe gamers have gotten better :)
drowsy comet
just did a +4 on my prot pala, and received a compliment from the healer. I should go pro 
tribal wharf
its not healthy in the long run to be around those players
but its sort of unspoken law that cod/bf is full of em
coarse bay
just did a +4 on my prot pala, and received a compliment from the healer. I shou...
Sir this is the warrior channel
drowsy comet
honestly i don't think i've heard someone drop the hard r as gamer slur in ages
play a round of BO7 and you will learn new slurs
drowsy comet
Sir this is the warrior channel
its more like 25% prot warr chat and 75% general tho
lets be real here
proper roost
Sir this is the warrior channel
let's be real
tribal wharf
if im not actually playing the wow
proper roost
we all know what hammer of wrath is like
tribal wharf
when it comes out
proper roost
👎
tribal wharf
i wont be making bs spam posts when ppl inevitably come asking questions how to play
proper roost
i don't blame the kid
drowsy comet
is that ur cat in the video
tribal wharf
but for now, its just really dead in here
cerulean tusk
just did a +4 on my prot pala, and received a compliment from the healer. I shou...
prot paladin scum
cerulean tusk
Tinfoil tanks not allowed in here, boy.
drowsy comet
my divine shield will help me out
cerulean tusk
Get out
tribal wharf
wtb support shaman like aug
proper roost
if ppal is tinfoil, what's bdk
like a wet piece of printer paper?
tribal wharf
cuz there was that email about, survival bandaid hunters??
and full support paladins
drowsy comet
if ppal is tinfoil, what's bdk
like a wet piece of printer paper?
a blood soaked paper
tribal wharf
weird stuff,, maybe we see the shaman tank in retail, has a shield., the real tinfoil tank
tribal wharf
everytime you strike him lightning goes crazy dmg
undone beacon
tribal wharf
holy shield but for shamans!
tribal wharf
and like, other tank buttons
proper roost
https://media.tenor.com/6UFW4JcO-fUAAAAm/brick-cat.webp
drowsy comet
holy shield but for shamans!
shaman tank when
tribal wharf
i think if they do go down that route, that it should be a hard 1 limit of support per 5 man group (doesnt matter about raid)
and thats even if you choose to do a support invited or not
drowsy comet
we have housing in wow, its going down. I wouldnt be surprised if we somehow get a Healer Mage
undone beacon
support should just stay out of wow, simple as
not a game designed to support it without a major overhall to endgame systems
tribal wharf
yes, for the most part i think so too, but i think if it belongs anywhere in wow it belongs in retail and not classic
fathom oasis
Sir this is the warrior channel
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.
drowsy comet
kanga, why do you want to see everybody dead
cerulean tusk
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.
undone beacon
||Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.||
drowsy comet
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.
still waiting for an answer kanga
jagged pier
Came here to 
...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, people not able to use external emotes 
.
proper roost
kanga, why do you want to see everybody dead
I'm epistomogically evil
fathom oasis
I'm epistomogically evil
that doesn't sound like a real word
drowsy comet
I'm epistomogically evil
did you sleep well
proper roost
it is not misspelled
undone beacon
Epistemologically
drowsy comet
smart ass
fathom oasis
epistemologically you mean
undone beacon
Not epistomogically
cerulean tusk
undone beacon
your hubris was your downfall
proper roost
hubris dn
fathom oasis
hubris is a nice word
undone beacon
hubris more like huge bris(ket) in my belly
proper roost
lmao
undone beacon
proper roost
https://media.tenor.com/H5Zo4HxhzQ8AAAAM/window-fuckit.gif
later, be careful of the mind goblin on your way out
fathom oasis
there will never be too many cat gifs in a discord channel
drowsy comet
dusky canopy
undone beacon
undone beacon
fathom oasis
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933732132889706566/1447682831974137856/me...
that one looks like a still image, and then it moves
fathom oasis
spooky
drowsy comet
https://tenor.com/view/cat-axolotl-meme-ai-ai-slop-gif-320631449476692671
dafuq
fathom oasis
https://tenor.com/view/cat-axolotl-meme-ai-ai-slop-gif-320631449476692671
water cat
proper roost
jagged pier
caxolotol real creature
proper roost
i hate the ai cat videos
there's already enough good cats without shitty robots making up bad cats
dusky canopy
Ai will be our downfall
proper roost
it's cringe
drowsy comet
i hate the ai cat videos
proper roost
and not the cool kind
undone beacon
warm plinth
There's cool cringe?
undone beacon
ai could never create purple homer simpson
proper roost
i automatically take your measure of a person if you post AI "art"
and i deem u lacking
daring marlin
undone beacon
drowsy comet
ai could never create purple homer simpson
cerulean tusk
dusky canopy
https://media.tenor.com/CJs7CAK8UXwAAAAM/spell-cat-ai.gif
People will think that’s ai too.. crazy
cerulean tusk
undone beacon
drowsy comet
ah fuck
cerulean tusk
1st strike
drowsy comet
1st strike
strike dn
proper roost
@undone beacon did you ever actually end up playing control
or did you just play ror2 again
dusky canopy
I heard terraria made summoning better in the latest update!
Might have to go give that a play through
undone beacon
<@165255621468356608> did you ever actually end up playing control
i spent all weekend watching Fire Force and shoveling ice out of my driveway
So Control is still on the to-do list
proper roost
i h8 u
toxic pewter
undone beacon
or did you just play ror2 again
and for da record im playin picayune dreams not ror2 now okay my hyperfixation has shifted
tribal wharf
proper roost
How about we all play wow
u first
undone beacon
keys right now, right FUCKING now
undone beacon
jagged pier
keys in pre-patch???
undone beacon
All i know is i want my surv/shadow apex talents right frickin now
coarse bay
keys in pre-patch???
Kinda fun and casual ngl
proper roost
Ive been playing wow
x
dusky canopy
I want it to be March 24th already
coarse bay
Im at work
proper roost
they all better be 3x+ filled
dusky canopy
Classic Kanga thinks Im doing any dungeons
coarse bay
But id die of boredom doing it all on one
dusky canopy
I haven’t entered a key since November I think 🤣
coarse bay
I still have a decent amount of active people to make it fun
proper roost
Classic Kanga thinks Im doing any dungeons
i wasnt asking u 🙄
coarse bay
I did brawlers guild yesterday
proper roost
bet u have like 1 slot per character IF that....
dusky canopy
i wasnt asking u 🙄
undone beacon
Too bad, labyrinth time
daring marlin
What are delves like?
jagged pier
Too bad, labyrinth time
daring marlin
followup question, how is pugging now that crossfaction has been a thing?
dusky canopy
undone beacon
What are delves like?
Like scenarios but less interesting and with scaling rewards
undone beacon
followup question, how is pugging now that crossfaction has been a thing?
Same as it ever was
daring marlin
Like scenarios but less interesting and with scaling rewards
Scenarios in MoP were good idgaf
undone beacon
Scenarios were cool to do once, maybe twice
jagged pier
doing a 8 deleve for hero track or puggging m+ for the same item
theres no question which is better
undone beacon
Yeah but you can only get 1 hero piece a week from delves kek
dusky canopy
The delves are actually pretty cool they just get real stale fast if you have to farm them for a specific vault item weeks on end imo
jagged pier
vault is a thing
daring marlin
Same as it ever was
Certainly it sucks less with a bigger player pool, no?
undone beacon
Okay sorry two hero track items if you count vault
undone beacon
Certainly it sucks less with a bigger player pool, no?
Bigger player pool means more shitters too
Waiter waiter 1800 fotm arcane mages please
daring marlin
Bigger player pool means more shitters too
Well, yeah lol
dusky canopy
Pugging feels no different at all
Still hour long que if you are not a flavor of the month spec
undone beacon
But it kinda balances itself out. More players in the pool doesn’t make it feel better or worse, aside from more groups existing in general
daring marlin
Still hour long que if you are not a flavor of the month spec
The DPS Warrior experience
dusky canopy
You know it 🤣
solid sun
Yo what’s for lunch today
proper roost
followup question, how is pugging now that crossfaction has been a thing?
0 change
solid sun
Thinking maybe the local pizzeria
dusky canopy
Just race to 3300 in the first 2-3 weeks and then afk in 12s with instant invites
Ez
cerulean tusk
This do be the way
dusky canopy
Last I heard we got DF s1 dungeon tuning this time around so wonder if we’ll be doing 20s again with “ease”
cerulean tusk
Also first few weeks, you will play with a lot better players than you will in week 4
Week1-3 keys are so much easier, even with less gear, than the follow up keys as the curve catches back up
dusky canopy
Very much so
daring marlin
I'm gonna have fun tossing shields and lasers
dusky canopy
It’s night and day when you do the keys like that with the regulars who hit high io
dusky canopy
Shield Masson !?
solid sun
No that’s my plan
Don’t give away the secret sauce
Boomstick and fire mage. Flawless midnight combo
undone beacon
i wanna raptor swipe and boomstick everywhere
dusky canopy
Bomb tosser my beloved
tribal wharf
dusky canopy
Yogi think of the children
tribal wharf
he is a demon now
undone beacon
yogi posting gore in general damn
tribal wharf
undead
dusky canopy
🤣
undone beacon
oh, thats gore. thats gore of my comfort character
tribal wharf
undead by the forces of hell
so thats a demon
so if its a demon, we can kill it brutally
a demon is anything fully evil
solid sun
Why is it running at you with a gun instead of shooting you with the gun
undone beacon
reader x demon zombie yaoi fanfic
dusky canopy
Cluegi demon clearly
tribal wharf
TLDR, monsters have a wait check and hes active
so it's ai is trying to do SOMETHING, and it decided to walk
because it will have a delay between attacks depending on factors
dusky canopy
Ai in doom 1989
tribal wharf
1993
dusky canopy
Right yogi
tribal wharf
maybe battlezone counted
tribal wharf
chat gpt true neutral
solid sun
Have you ever considered becoming the wolfenstein guy instead of the doom guy
tribal wharf
even wolf3d was only as early as what, 1992 im pretty sure?
undone beacon
she chat on my gpt til I A on her I
solid sun
Brew accidentally asked the yogi ai for a timeline on doom
solid sun
Goldeneye
tribal wharf
thats.... 1997?
solid sun
Perfect Dark
tribal wharf
uhhh 1999
undone beacon
what about Spasim from 1974
solid sun
What about the Chex cereal fps
dusky canopy
I quite literally said “1989” straight outta my rear
solid sun
When did that come out
dusky canopy
This wasn’t accurate yap
proper roost
Ya keys are always the same imo
solid sun
Did you ever play the Chex fps yogi
tribal wharf
no its stupid
tribal wharf
its too far into the stupid realm
proper roost
it was incredible
dusky canopy
Yogi can I please have a complex break down of the history of doom starting at the begging
fathom oasis
I never want to do a delve again in my life
preach
proper roost
she chat on my gpt til I A on her I
Explain what this means right now
tribal wharf
you are begging me for doom lore?
undone beacon
Explain what this means right now
she chat on my gpt til I A on her I
tribal wharf
dnd + computers + guns
solid sun
But you kill evil aliens in the Chex game
solid sun
It must have been too hard for you
undone beacon
tribal wharf
i tried it one time and i just know its not for me
drowsy comet
Are +15s are hard?
proper roost
she chat on my gpt til I A on her I
explain what this means right now
proper roost
drowsy comet
tribal wharf
here, go play this shit
this is a huge trust me bro but its not doom
and its fucking good
tribal wharf
this is what starcraft ghosts could be
drowsy comet
lowkey, as in uhh if its hard to pull mobs or that u need to avoid mistakes. Like are mistakes okay?
idk how to phrase it, I sound dumb
proper roost
The dungeon is the exact same no matter what key level you are
What does "hard to pull mobs" mean
What do "mistakes" mean for you
i'm socratic method'ing like crazy rn
drowsy comet
hm hard to pull wasnt clever to say, lets ignore that. With mistakes I mean, that when I press a wrong defensive or that you wipe instantly when you press the wrong skill
undone beacon
The better your group is, the more leniency for mistakes you have. A 15 is harder than a 14 but not as hard as a 16. What that actually feels like to you is going to be up to your subjective experience playing the game, inlcuding knowledge of your class, spec, dungeons, and group
Right now a 15 is literally free because its prepatch
proper roost
button presses aren't going to be mistakes that cause wipes, it's practically impossible for human beings to perfect button presses in any key, no matter how WR they are
remote ocean
which website do you guys use for more detailed class guides? wowhead? maxroll?
drowsy comet
what do cause wipes tho?
undone beacon
The only time you're gonna cause a wipe if you press buttons wrong is like, missing a defensive on a tankbuster
drowsy comet
which website do you guys use for more detailed class guides? wowhead? maxroll?
wowhead
undone beacon
what do cause wipes tho?
Failiure to execute mechanics
undone beacon
which website do you guys use for more detailed class guides? wowhead? maxroll?
wowhead or icyveins are the go-tos
tribal wharf
thottbot
undone beacon
Avoid aggregation sites like Archon or Murlok, especially right now
tribal wharf
or wowhead
proper roost
i think this is a fundamental misunderstanding of how WoW works
keys cannot be played perfectly by a human, because you don't have perfect knowledge of RNG
remote ocean
okeis ty
drowsy comet
Avoid aggregation sites like Archon or Murlok, especially right now
whats Murlok? besides these green thingies
undone beacon
what do cause wipes tho?
But yeah in a key wipes happen when people don't do mechanics correctly. Not interrupting something important, not hitting a defensive for a tankbuster, pulling two packs that shouldn't be pulled together, standing in the bad, etc etc
proper roost
you could only perfect the keypresses in a dungeon by retroactively knowing how the pulls would go
like if you could TAS it in theory is like the only way you could perfect button presses
drowsy comet
hmm
undone beacon
whats Murlok? besides these green thingies
PvP/M+ data aggregation site. Shows what the top 50 or so people are using for talents/gear per spec in different PvP/M+ settings
tribal wharf
you know, i have said it a million times before
proper roost
Ability usage is not a meaningful mistake outside of tankbusters or literally not interrupting things
tribal wharf
i would love to see what an ai team could do to a keystone
teach it how to play and let it go crazy with 5 players
drowsy comet
i interrupt shit even in TW dungeons lol
proper roost
I'm trying to think of how to phrase this but the #1 cause of wipes at high io is a misgauge of party strength compared to the pull being done
Because the information is inherently imperfect
tribal wharf
could you imagine a 5 ai team with a ton of work into it? it would run a keystone in 8 minutes
undone beacon
I'm trying to think of how to phrase this but the #1 cause of wipes at high io i...
thats a fair way to phrase it
Pulling above your weight class lol
tribal wharf
see, ai would never make that mistake in theory
undone beacon
If you have a team with low dps, pulling 5 packs together in an attempt to nuke them down probably wont work
drowsy comet
I'm trying to think of how to phrase this but the #1 cause of wipes at high io i...
I´ve set a goal for the next season, of first getting to +12s and afterwards maybe pushing +15s. So thats why im curious about that. Leaning into Prot pally, because i like how much utility it brings
undone beacon
Don't be caught up in the relative difficulty of the key levels, just take it one key at a time. Keys get easier with practice and consistency in play
I've had 16s go smooth as butter and 12s get bricked
drowsy comet
Hm I see
proper roost
It's not really about you it's about learning what the strength of the group is
which necessitates learning how to gauge the strength/ability of the specs you'll be playing with
And the threat level of pulls
at a macro level, a key is just a big total HP pool against your group's DPS
drowsy comet
I plan on mostly pugging tho, and here and there going in with guildies
proper roost
Doesn't matter
There are meta specs so you will learn the strength of some specs more than others
Anyway, my point is
On a macro level, a key is just a big total HP pool against your group's DPS
The agency that a tank has in keys is that you can adjust that total HP pool to be more or less efficient by adjusting what pulls you do
solid sun
You need to macro your star ports effectively to get enough battle cruisers
Then micro them to kill all the enemies
solid sun
Is it just the hp pool though. The stuff hits harder too
Or are we not caring about that part
mighty valley
could you imagine a 5 ai team with a ton of work into it? it would run a keyston...
ai technology cannot do this right now. all you could do is what kanga is suggested and script five characters with every single input needed to do a perfect key
like tas for wow
except obv blizzard wouldn't allow that on live servers lol
proper roost
Is it just the hp pool though. The stuff hits harder too
that part isn't relevant right now
tribal wharf
i mean, thats kind of exactly what i mean
but later on they might be able to run it frame by frame
proper roost
ai technology cannot do this right now. all you could do is what kanga is sugges...
rollback would be necessary for perfect play is the impt part
mighty valley
that's not really artificial intelligence, is it. it's not doing anything intelligent, it's just doing what a human programmed into it
proper roost
It's the same reason raid healing can't be perfectly scripted, too much RNG
solid sun
Can I ask why the hitting hard part doesn’t matter right now
Like right now because in prepatch nothing hurts?
tribal wharf
in my opinion intellegence is doing the thing that has the most probability for good correctly
proper roost
because the agency of the tank readjusting HP pools for efficiency is gated by group strength
Otherwise obviously you pull the entire key at once because that would be the most efficient way to dps down the total hp pool
That's why I said
I'm trying to think of how to phrase this but the #1 cause of wipes at high io is a misgauge of party strength compared to the pull being done
solid sun
Does damage intake not factor into how you pull the groups? It feels like it does
proper roost
Because you have to weigh party strength at any given moment against the rearranging of HP pools
"Party strength" includes ability to survive packs
solid sun
Is the party strength including what it can handle in terms of kicks or defensives
Stop typing faster than me ya goofball
mighty valley
Does damage intake not factor into how you pull the groups? It feels like it doe...
most of the time it's more about your group's capacity for interrupts/crowd control coordination rather than raw incoming damage
toxic pewter
I do crowd control
mighty valley
that's nice apb
toxic pewter
tribal wharf
thats the other way support can be more viable
toxic pewter
I also suffer from that
proper roost
Anyway I don't really think new tanks should worry about gauging group strength right away because they'll probably be gated on pull efficiency by their own survivability
tribal wharf
is they focus on kicking spells and hard cc spells like shaman frog that cant be dispelled and doesnt expire on 1 hit.
undone beacon
your huge bris will be your downfall
proper roost
But obviously if you push past 12s in the first few weeks of s1, you will definitely learn the former pretty quick
or die i guess idk
solid sun
I always try to make sure I’m not the smartest in the room
That’s why I make sure pash is around
V important
toxic pewter
your huge bris will be your downfall
I had a huge bris
undone beacon
i just exist in a space
tribal wharf
im not sure i dont play it, bu i think in final fantasy games they call that a blue mage
dusky canopy
she chat... on my gpt... til I A... on her I
🤣 pash W
tribal wharf
debuffs hell out of everything till point they cant fight back
solid sun
It def can be gated by tank survivability
I remember during the mead dungeon
That first room you’d get the stacking debuff
Lots of people came in here not understanding why they’d get mowed down by the little twerp ass dudes lol
stoic pilot
That first room was diabolical
solid sun
I think they had an enrage too
proper roost
I think all of it doesn't really matter though
there is no way you can just tell someone how keys work
they just have to do like 100+ of them
and then maybe they can have novice level knowledge
undone beacon
apb is desperate to do prepatch keys with you
undone beacon
proper roost
I highly doubt it tbh
toxic pewter
is that right
proper roost
i did keys with nimchip all of df s1 and 2
toxic pewter
i honestly thought it was like meming
proper roost
I mean yeah I mostly want to do keys with you so I can be mean to you
inside the key
I think that would be fun. I would derive great pleasure from it
toxic pewter
i didnt realize people socialized outside of discord
like you have to see it from my pov
i dont know what im doing
i met up with tankian before in game tho
u no tankian right
proper roost
Yeah that's yogi buddy
toxic pewter
I actually will do midnight keys
I will do a key today
ill even do pvp
i am well versed in all aspects of the game
toxic pewter
you really think everyone else is an npc
takes one to know one, as they say
proper roost
I think everyone is a real human being
toxic pewter
yeah I was meaning for me
proper roost
who i will disrespect at first
toxic pewter
I am an npc, etc
proper roost
respect is 2 be earned
daring marlin
I actually will do midnight keys
Do it. Show me your route!
toxic pewter
much of my life my talk has been cheap
that is why I have not gotten respect
I am working to change that.
daring marlin
I miss Neltharus
toxic pewter
ok so when we doin this surely as soon as midnight comes out we can get goin
proper roost
i better not have to pug tanks for the entirety of s1 Midnight
toxic pewter
I will tank or heal or dps
proper roost
healer keys fucking suck u have literally 0 agency over whether a group sucks or not
toxic pewter
wait do you generally heal
you have to also realize ive been alone my entire life so i only pug throughout my entire wow career
toxic pewter
like the idea of a group or 'friends' is foreign to me
proper roost
and everyone i know tanks so that's out of the question
forced 2 do box click gameplay
proper roost
df rsham 😔
tww rsham was lame
df rdruid was upsetting too many buttongs
hpal is alright but not particularly interesting
proper roost
yeah see this is what i'm saying
apb just has a knack for saying the most depressing shit
it's impressive
toxic pewter
well it all goes back to when I was a baby..
proper roost
he is a human eeyore fr
undone beacon
like the idea of a group or 'friends' is foreign to me
round pendant
oh he's being facetious
proper roost
A little bit
proper roost
but they say there's always a kernel of truth hidden underneath every lie
toxic pewter
I have never lied in here
toxic pewter
apb don't worry we're all your friends here
proper roost
i'm not. I'm your enemy
toxic pewter
that is something I am very familiar with.. most of my best friends are my enemies
and vice versa
toxic pewter
kanga I say this with the utmost sincerity
I will, before my days are through, earn your respect
I will make it so
It will be done. I do not know how
daring marlin
toxic pewter
or when
dusky canopy
Better hope they don’t talent intimidating shout
remote ocean
is the game story worth learning about?
toxic pewter
is the game story worth learning about?
Hell yeah it is
daring marlin
is the game story worth learning about?
hell no
toxic pewter
start with warcraft 1
remote ocean
Conflicting information.
dusky canopy
Oh totally if you are a lore person WoWs lore is quite interesting
proper roost
is the game story worth learning about?
absolutely not
daring marlin
not anymore
toxic pewter
I am actually considered a Warcraft Lore Master by most people
proper roost
literally shadowlands happened buddy
dusky canopy
It’s great up until shadowlands
warm plinth
Hi
dusky canopy
Then it’s rough
remote ocean
start with warcraft 1
really, that far back? i started with a dragonflight video im halfway through, so many random things
proper roost
good morning ghash
daring marlin
how do I track ip
toxic pewter
really, that far back? i started with a dragonflight video im halfway through, s...
Warcraft lore is top tier. I am here for questions, comments, I will help you learn
warm plinth
I didn't do a key last week
remote ocean
I am actually considered a Warcraft Lore Master by most people
oh awesome, ill bug you when i get confused, so, basically, dragonflight: What the fuck?
warm plinth
I'm washed
proper roost
we're doing a key tonight with me u and apb @warm plinth
dusky canopy
I’m washed
proper roost
i've convinced him not to be a coward
remote ocean
im watching this vid, am i supposed to know these people? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aipy19Xt45U
toxic pewter
we're doing a key tonight with me u and apb <@255696891000389633>
wtf tongiht?
proper roost
Yeah tonight
warm plinth
Ok that's fine
toxic pewter
OK
proper roost
Gr8
warm plinth
Send him disc inv
mighty valley
im watching this vid, am i supposed to know these people? https://www.youtube.co...
over twenty years of story happened before dragonflight
dusky canopy
Shapes you gotta start with og lore for Dragonflight to even remotely make sense
remote ocean
these 3 expansions story are kinda self contained though right
or is it 4, dragonflgiht tww midnight last titan?
warm plinth
I'll play el hunterino
dusky canopy
All the aspects are introduced way way sooner in the lore
toxic pewter
I would recommend cease on dragonflight lore for now and start with Warcraft 3..
mighty valley
tww is meant to kick off the Worldsoul Saga of three expansions, but like... all the main characters have been around forever
warm plinth
Or to make it interesting I could heal your bb woyer with my bb shaman
toxic pewter
1 and 2 are good but all u really need to know is orcs vs humans
3 is where the things get good
remote ocean
I would recommend cease on dragonflight lore for now and start with Warcraft 3..
hmmm, are there any good videos covering that?
undone beacon
we're doing a key tonight with me u and apb <@255696891000389633>
wow am i not invited
sadge
warm plinth
wow am i not invited
Pash you have standing invite
remote ocean
and fine ill start from warcraft 1, no shortcuts. 😄
warm plinth
When we created your invite, we checked the make permanent box
toxic pewter
yes
dusky canopy
There’s a yt guy who has multi hour videos going through the lore in chronological order
Very good watch/listen if lore is your thing
daring marlin
I thought keys were postponed til Midnight
warm plinth
There’s a yt guy who has multi hour videos going through the lore in chronologic...
Why is it relevant that he's white? 😏
toxic pewter
I will ggo to my death loving warcraft lore i dont care wut anyone says an I actually believe lore is more important to the game than even haters say
proper roost
i was just going to open an invite for dps
warm plinth
Everyone can key
coarse bay
@warm plinth how do i track ip now?
undone beacon
Pash you have standing invite
frick yeah
daring marlin
<@255696891000389633> how do i track ip now?
I second this
dusky canopy
Why is it relevant that he's white? 😏
I didn’t mention “white” anywhere lmao
daring marlin
The people must know
warm plinth
Yt is a common way to say white on social media
proper roost
even if brew didn't
daring marlin
I didn’t mention “white” anywhere lmao
The smirk was in regards to "yt" buddy
proper roost
Gottem
dusky canopy
daring marlin
FIRST TIME ON THE INTERNET BREW?
proper roost
ok taco time goodbye
daring marlin
BOOMERJJ?
warm plinth
Brew is new to interwebz
daring marlin
LMFAOOOOO
toxic pewter
ok taco time goodbye
dusky canopy
Like people who say perdiodT to me in the star bucks drive through with my wife
I just know damn well my face looks boomer
warm plinth
Why does that specifically happen at Starbucks wtf lol
coarse bay
Smh my head my head smh period.
dusky canopy
That’s just my experience who knows
warm plinth
I just read a post on Facebook. This guy just hit 50k achievement points.
He started playing in 2016
I got like maybe 20k and I started 10 years before that
warm plinth
I'm not a big achievement guy though but that's such a huge difference
dusky canopy
Haven’t gone to the zone once
daring marlin
I mean this with all sincerity it seems like the worst one they've ever done
dusky canopy
I literally log in and spend 20 minutes selling the 3 dimi mounts with team and log back out
dusky canopy
Dieing for next expansion
daring marlin
I got three weapons on my pally in a row
Agi, agi, agi then a mail pair of pants
???
warm plinth
Eh that's normal with warbound. Just buy instead
dusky canopy
@autumn roost ghash is cool guy runs the mplus friends discord and wants a mount
daring marlin
Still new to warbound stuff I guess
autumn roost
What's happening
dusky canopy
Read
warm plinth
Woah calling me cool is a stretch
daring marlin
Been a while for me 🤪
dusky canopy
I can’t read so I guess nvm
drowsy comet
On a macro level, a key is just a big total HP pool against your group's DPS
thats actually an interesting perspective about dungeons. Does it also apply to Raids, except some extra Mechanics tho?
warm plinth
Reading is for nerds
autumn roost
Am I being asked to do something
daring marlin
<@190271915041095690> ghash is cool guy runs the mplus friends discord and wants...
I actually forgot he runs that discord
lmao
good guy ghash
dusky canopy
No no ghash wants a mount
autumn roost
Oh
drowsy comet
I got three weapons on my pally in a row
prepatch event? prepare for 8 more weapons
autumn roost
Any friend of brews gets charged double
dusky canopy
LMAO
undone beacon
<@190271915041095690> ghash is cool guy runs the mplus friends discord and wants...
I want one toooo
oh wait
autumn roost
He doesn't reply to dms @dusky canopy
undone beacon
undone beacon
In relation to the total
At the end of TWW there was like 60kish points iirc
I'm at 43k :3