after install/uninstall
#protection
proper roost
remote ocean
im checking it, i dont think it does sounds does it 🙁
coarse bay
Just know that all addons now are only allowed to pull the information that blizzard allows/offers. most addons are skins/customization.
drowsy comet
im checking it, i dont think it does sounds does it 🙁
Bigwigs has sounds. But its mostly just for differemt scenarios and like a M+ Timer countdown tho
proper roost
the pull timer thing is blizz default
remote ocean
is there an addon to filter buffs/debuffs?
round pendant
Ha
proper roost
haha
drowsy comet
is there an addon to filter buffs/debuffs?
Filter what
remote ocean
Filter what
like id love to hide 99% of things, i dont need to know most of these random procs.
drowsy comet
like id love to hide 99% of things, i dont need to know most of these random pro...
Ah thats coming in about 3 weeks with the new API changes
remote ocean
ah awesome. ty.
drowsy comet
little bit more than 3 weeks
drowsy comet
they bricked lots of other stuff tho 
remote ocean
mhm. 🙁
drowsy comet
atleast the game is playable tho
remote ocean
if they're dumbing down the game, they better at least bring it to consoles finally.
drowsy comet
if they're dumbing down the game, they better at least bring it to consoles fina...
i think it will get released not this year on blizzcon, but probably after the last titan. Rn they "shorten" addons (ironically you now need more lol) and during Midnight/Last Titan they see how players play, and then I could see an console port
Think about FF14 on console tho, and Blizzard loves money
remote ocean
mhm. more players is always a good thing too
drowsy comet
crossplay would be interesting yea. But I wouldnt believe anything rn
proper roost
The addon reckoning was coming one day
one way or another
it was inevitable people saw the writing on the wall since like WoD archimonde
jagged pier
Think about FF14 on console tho, and Blizzard loves money
Its a different client tho for ff i believe
coarse bay
like id love to hide 99% of things, i dont need to know most of these random pro...
If you mean your stuff shown in cdm, its in cdm, just disable them
remote ocean
oh i mean my actual buff bar.
i was filtering buffs/debuffs with raven before, so i'd only see important stuff.
coarse bay
Why do you need to filter your buff bar
remote ocean
but that doesnt seem to work anymore.
because there are about 50 buffs at any given time, and i only need to know about 3 of them.
coarse bay
Hm
jagged pier
Well thats what the utility tracker is for
jagged pier
U can forget your buff bar and leave it in the top right
drowsy comet
Its a different client tho for ff i believe
Could be, i never got into that cringe uwu mmo 
remote ocean
I personally think buff bar is useless
unfiltered it is. it really is.
oh, what utillity bar?
jagged pier
Its part of the cdm
remote ocean
oh i havent turend that on yet, let me check.
jagged pier
Literally lets u track the important stuff
drowsy comet
Yea
coarse bay
drowsy comet
remote ocean
uh, can we not move the cooldown thing?
coarse bay
Edit mode
drowsy comet
proper roost
yah idk all the relevant buffs you can already track with cdm can't you
remote ocean
what do you guys have showing on your cdm?
jagged pier
I actually use tmw for the cdm and only the utility tracker from bliz 
drowsy comet
bettercdm addon makes life abit easier but still not too much tho
drowsy comet
I actually use tmw for the cdm and only the utility tracker from bliz <:kekW:620...
whats tmw
proper roost
i've just literally almost never looked at top right before
jagged pier
It was budget weak auras even tho it around before WAs
But it at lets u put cds where u want them now
proper roost
tmw might be older than zwei
drowsy comet
mhm 
proper roost
shit was around in original wotlk lol
jagged pier
Not just that bar of stuff u cant customize
I have the utility bar tho, it didnt seem happy with buffs anymore
Which is fair enough
drowsy comet
im excited for when Ayije's CDM is coming out 
drowsy comet
Tho only Kira is having access to it for testing purpose and feedback. Ayije is a viewer of him and innitially wanted to have his own addon for personal use
it looks pretty decent and u have good customization
tribal wharf
which specs like we were talking about with frost mage someone says it sucks
i want, no demand, to know, the worst of those specs
we have had
i think there was a really terrible rogue one
with the coin flip, i cant recall
oh and vampire not survivig dk
drowsy comet
fire mage i dunno
coarse bay
Fire mage is mage
drowsy comet
Fire mage is mage
the sky is blue ahh
unreal yarrow
Ayije wins the mdi but people still just call him a Kira viewer. Treat your healers better
drowsy comet
Ayije wins the mdi but people still just call him a Kira viewer. Treat your he...
To my defense, i only know kira for 2 or 3 weeks or so
mighty valley
i want, no demand, to know, the worst of those specs
worst how? worst performance, or worst gameplay?
and do you mean recently, or through all of wow's history
tribal wharf
i meant to put frostfire
such as thane vs slayer
i know we cant be be slayer in prot
mighty valley
oh just like, most useless hero spec?
tribal wharf
ya
drowsy comet
such as thane vs slayer
Colossus
mighty valley
whatever the black arrow hero spec was for beast master was apparently horrendous for half the expansion
tribal wharf
that type of effect, is for alpha builds
mighty valley
size +5%, how does this ever make it to live lmao
it's a fun thing bolted on to an actual gameplay effect, who cares
it should be 10% though
tribal wharf
or meme or VERY niche scenario where it does matter somehow
drowsy comet
size +5%, how does this ever make it to live lmao
hey 5% is gigantic
tribal wharf
i feel like the thane and whatever final talent of that
they do damage, but not always super flashy
despite dmg and usefulness
some of them it really works. mage fire birds
drowsy comet
I kinda wish for more buffs
undone beacon
Doesn’t need to be flashy just needs to feel good to play
drowsy comet
Prot Warr was more fun to play before prepatch, rn its kinda missing the cool shit
grizzled nova
The biggest whiff of this whole thing is that the apex talent will change nothing.
It just happens because you pressed the buttons you were gonna press anyway.
drowsy comet
thukker u still pissed at me for the WA discussion or we gud
and he ignores me
Oh nvm
grizzled nova
I literally cannot believe that they decided to crib the season 2 df set instead of fervid.
drowsy comet
DF sets look tuff
grizzled nova
No one cared about the season 2 set, everyone loved the season 3 set, fervid was a fun feedback loop, they put the braindead season 2 set bonus back in the game.
mighty valley
Prot Warr was more fun to play before prepatch, rn its kinda missing the cool sh...
what did we lose
drowsy comet
what did we lose
the coolness, and damage
mighty valley
the coolness
unreal yarrow
We lost our tier set
drowsy comet
the coolness
mighty valley
to me the 8000 apm thane version is kinda braindead
it's not what i would call the coolness
drowsy comet
to me the 8000 apm thane version is kinda braindead
high apm is fun, I like to spam buttons and hope for the best
mighty valley
i like to make decisions sometimes
proper roost
dont tell apb about this
remote ocean
this is kinda meh right, what % of you guys damage is revenge?
round pendant
god I'm eepy
remote ocean
is this any good?
daring marlin
god I'm eepy
go to bed
toxic pewter
is this any good?
I mean its not bad in multi target environments yeah
coarse bay
I like thane, thane fun and blast cool
Im like yogi, we both like old and thane is old because thunder
undone beacon
huh
remote ocean
is the 5% increassed critical damage for everything or just revenge?
toxic pewter
just revenge
mighty valley
just revenge
remote ocean
the shield slam one is better worded imo
that "deals" helps a lot the interpretation
mighty valley
eh, it's redundant, barb training is telling you two things that revenge gets
coarse bay
Ig anything with a barrier/shield
Plexus in mfo
The band boss in streets
I personally havent used it nor thought about it
Im not sure how strong/effective it is
toxic pewter
coarse bay
U 2 should do keys together
toxic pewter
im healing heroic dimensius
how do people still not know the mechanics of phase 1 lmao
wat in da world
coarse bay
Its like 5 mechanics, thats a lot
remote ocean
do you all swap often between collossus and mt or just play whatever you like best regardless of meta?
coarse bay
Depends on the diff
remote ocean
which one do you enjoy most?
coarse bay
I like thane personally
Even s2 when colossus was meta i probably did more thane keys, its fine for most content to do what you prefer
toxic pewter
I enjoy the idea of colossus but unfortunately the demolish ability itself has historically not lived up the name.. it hits like a wet noodle for most of war within unfortunately colossus was mainly played sesaon 2
like if demolish actually hurt
it would be my fav all the time
remote ocean
hmm
coarse bay
Blizz hasnt been very good with hero talent balance so not every class will have the choice
toxic pewter
yeah that too like you said theyre not even close each season in power
i would say most just follow the power
which has been thane s1/colossus s2/ thane s3
remote ocean
i wonder if its going to continue being like that into midnight
toxic pewter
prob
coarse bay
Even when there’s a clear meta you can play your preference
S2 colossus was meta but i still played both, and than was more than fine at least in like midrange keys
Like 14-16 casual
remote ocean
awesome (:
coarse bay
And im positive it wont be a thing with like meta perception because people dont look that deep, they just see the class
Tanks kinda get the most privilege with off meta it feels
Off meta dps specs and hero talents have had like 15-20% dps swings and thats just grief
proper roost
i wonder if its going to continue being like that into midnight
Yes. DPS is the meta of WoW and DPS is a solvable problem
There will always be a best
coarse bay
True
No matter how small there will always be a meta
You mentioned your goal being mythic raiding and like 14 range keys right? @remote ocean
remote ocean
i didnt.
remote ocean
that sounds about right tho. at least the mythic raiding, its my first season trying raids/dungs
we'll see how ti goes.
proper roost
Just play what u want
coarse bay
Meta matters much much less in raid
proper roost
again there is no consequence for playing what u want
for trying
u can respec freely
it literally doesnt matter
remote ocean
mhm, id rather not grief my groups tho if its a big diff 😄
coarse bay
Go against the meta be a chad
proper roost
Nothing is ever unplayable, the floor of specs are not low enough
proper roost
mhm, id rather not grief my groups tho if its a big diff 😄
Literally not possible. The floor is numerically not low like that no matter what u pick
coarse bay
There havent been that many cases of a hero talent choice being bad enough to be grief. Some but not many
remote ocean
thats good to hear.
proper roost
Its never been possible at that level
coarse bay
Ya for sure
proper roost
You can go 0 spec points and you'd outdps people at that play level
The floor is literally not possible to be low enough
coarse bay
Fwiw what im talking about has also been caused by unfixed bugs more than tuning
proper roost
If output is a bucket that could potentially be full, your bucket is always filled to at least 30% by default
And most people below top 1% are putting in less than 5%
This is not the type of game where spec choice matters. Your play dictates 90% of your output, within reason
Period
coarse bay
Period
proper roost
periodt
coarse bay
.
coarse bay
o7
coarse bay
Whats your input on this as the feelycrafter
toxic pewter
Input on wat
coarse bay
Whether meta class/spec/hero talents matter and how much
toxic pewter
APM is really
solid sun
As he is the most powerful
toxic pewter
Important
toxic pewter
Meta is a big deal though
proper roost
shut up apb
toxic pewter
So I’d say out of 100 meta is probably like 4.20 and individual skill is 69
mighty valley
I enjoy the idea of colossus but unfortunately the demolish ability itself has h...
it hit like a truck in s2… classic apb lies
proper roost
and you go clonk clonk clonk clonk all the way down as ur body slams all over the sides
proper roost
and then no one ever checks on you as you sob, your body broken, half submerged in the bloody water
coarse bay
What’s meta midnight season 1 and why is it vdh again @toxic pewter
toxic pewter
Meta is probably like 40-60%
proper roost
ok gn fr
toxic pewter
Skill like 30%
coarse bay
Err
toxic pewter
Luck 20%
mighty valley
Skill like 30%
more classic apb lies
toxic pewter
Just telling it like it is
mighty valley
no I’m telling you like it is
coarse bay
Skill is like 85%
mighty valley
the best one tricks are always doing keys at or one under the highest keys in the entire game
toxic pewter
Small %
mighty valley
he has a small %
coarse bay
toxic pewter
Let’s just say I’m not small where it matters
mighty valley
You’re small where it matters most… brainpower used to analyze world of warcraft
coarse bay
I agree with the one trick take and believe that its best that people one trick at least until a certain point
toxic pewter
Listen
mighty valley
boom gottem?
toxic pewter
But why
proper roost
i'm gonna break ur kneecaps
toxic pewter
It’s a free country
mighty valley
IS IT
toxic pewter
coarse bay
daring marlin
Im but a simple individual
when's WoW 2 buddy
coarse bay
when's WoW 2 buddy
There wont be a wow 2
The final expac, the last titan, is a reference to titanfall. It means that wow is the foundation for titanfall 4
daring marlin
There wont be a wow 2
It was foretold by our resident seer @toxic pewter so it has to be true
daring marlin
He is a powerful individual
coarse bay
He’s a VERY powerful individual
toxic pewter
Yeah it’s coming after last titan
It will be a brand new experience it may not have the wow 2 title but it will have everything a new game would have while simultaneously being wow
But it will be wow 2 in scope and spirit
urban bane
https://tenor.com/view/well-well-well-brian-griffin-gif-13475938804816244596
have you heard the one about the three holes in the ground?
Well, well, well
toxic pewter
undone beacon
It matters in the sense that what shlock content creators make spouting off about the meta trickles down to the general playerbase and influences the way that people interact with the game and one another, but in reality it shouldn't matter to the vast majority of people
In WoW at the very least
undone beacon
solid sun
Am I meta
undone beacon
The meta in MY squad is having fun
drowsy comet
yesterday I had a pretty funny situation, was playing a +2 just for fun, dungeon itself went really good, I was kinda proud of myself that I performed relatively good, in terms of not dying and all the ppl stayed alive - even got a compliment saying they would like to see me in their group for next season, if I was fine with that. Tho that healer man... idk if he was in love with me ur sum but, he kept saying "faster daddy tank" I was god dam, am I really that slow?, and eh kept spamming "faster daddy tank, faster daddy tank", then one of the DPS said, yea sry for my healer buddy, she thinks she´s funny when saying that. I was fine with that, I mean when do you really get compliments tho - still kind of funny
toxic pewter
@undone beacon
coarse bay
<@165255621468356608>
Pash is like guaranteed to be hibernating
round pendant
yesterday I had a pretty funny situation, was playing a +2 just for fun, dungeon...
hey buddy move on up to +10s you're ready
round pendant
what's fun about a +2
It's so sad to me when I see people holding themselves back just cause they're scared of bigger number 
drowsy comet
idk if i can reach that till midnight, my gear is giga trash 😭
round pendant
gear is irrelevant for a +10
drowsy comet
think I did it on like an ilvl of uh 121, the champion shit u can get from the vendors
proper roost
lol
proper roost
you think a +10 is tuned around more than champ gear?
nom literally did a +10 before prepatch in like starter blue gear
drowsy comet
proper roost
skill issue
drowsy comet
how tf is it a skill issue, i was tryna run a +2 for fun cuz I was bored
round pendant
oh yeah it's prepatch too
so yeah don't worry and just send it
Spread your wings lil gup
proper roost
saying that you can't do a +10 in champ gear is the skill issue
you could literally time it with 1 other person
drowsy comet
saying that you can't do a +10 in champ gear is the skill issue
i just havent done it yet, tf
drowsy comet
tho im busy with leveling like 2 other toons, since I switched servers, so yea
round pendant
I have faith he'll do it
proper roost
apparently u pull slow in a +2 which is coward behavior
u can just pull literally entire key in a +2
daring marlin
gm nerds
round pendant
is zweihvnder a khailby alt
proper roost
he's way more cocky for no reason tho
proper roost
bro spent the last 4 weeks in #1423009078099185674 yappin about what tier list to use for his tank pick in midnight
lol
drowsy comet
The coping for why you haven't pushed a +25 key yet
in midnight, trust
daring marlin
muh tier lists...
proper roost
I wonder if khailby will actually raid mythic in midnight
i don't think his ego could take
round pendant
and that's only the generated ones that are based on data
proper roost
criticism
round pendant
tier lists made by people are less than useless
daring marlin
but what about prot and...muh utility
proper roost
nah it's worse than tier lists made by people
he was using archon tier lists
for midnight beta
with like 1 person logged per spec
lol
round pendant
i don't think his ego could take
I don't really see it as an ego thing but it probably is
proper roost
it is 1000% an ego thing
proper roost
that is ego
round pendant
they cope so hard
drowsy comet
yea i was overthinking a tiny bit, and at the end these tierlists dont matter that much tho, since yesterday im actually more focused on actually learning the class(es) rather than worrying about too much whats meta and what not
round pendant
yeah it's like trying too hard to protect their ego ig
round pendant
yea i was overthinking a tiny bit, and at the end these tierlists dont matter th...
I believe in you
drowsy comet
The only thing that I am worrying about (and that may sound cringe af) is that like when I play an "offmeta" tank and that I may not receive invites or so. Ive read that this may happen for DPS, but idk about Tanks really. And im completely honest here
round pendant
just run your own key
daring marlin
people still have an ego about a 20 year old braindead baby game?
proper roost
just make the group
round pendant
it's free as a tank
drowsy comet
also just realized i had kanga randomly blocked oops
round pendant
And you won't have issues getting into groups as off-meta until the higher keys people are running anyway
round pendant
tank privilege is so good
round pendant
literally don't care if you'll click all my messages anyway
I'd have blocked so many people if it wasn't for discord showing that shit every time they're yapping
proper roost
unfortunately for you, my ego is hardened like a brick and i'll just yap to myself
also i am insane
round pendant
What's it called when someone blocks you but still talks about you?
It's gotta have a term
round pendant
Whatever that is, it's insufferable
proper roost
you're thinking about subtweeting
round pendant
yeah subtweeting is the twitter version
drowsy comet
leveling tanks is kinda a kick in the nuts (idk what the equivalent is for women for that) since ur missing stuff like Taunt, Interrupt, general rota skills etc. Like my prot pally rn is 38, and before like level 20 it felt sloooooow af
round pendant
I heard someone refer to it as something back on IRC 20 years ago
proper roost
you're thinking about subliminals
drowsy comet
What's it called when someone blocks you but still talks about you?
being in love with the person, idk
drowsy comet
NO NOT LIKE THAT
proper roost
many such cases
round pendant
leveling tanks is kinda a kick in the nuts (idk what the equivalent is for women...
You don't need taunt or kick for levelling dungeons brother
but yeah some of the tanks just don't function correctly til higher levels
daring marlin
leveling tanks is kinda a kick in the nuts (idk what the equivalent is for women...
That can be said about any class/spec/role but it's still quick
proper roost
holy moly!
drowsy comet
You don't need taunt or kick for levelling dungeons brother
depends on how high level the others are, but i somehow managed to kill the whole party, and obviously the dps was pissed at me. But that was a few weeks ago tho
proper roost
who cares
What is the consequence of wiping a leveling group
Just go again you lost like 10 seconds
drowsy comet
and via dungeons tanks are the fastest
Yea unless the max giga DPS who just wants TW badges wants to go fast and soloes the boss himself, bros literally him (looking at you UH dk)
proper roost
Why afraid of a minor inconvenience
drowsy comet
Just go again you lost like 10 seconds
not very fun in TW dungeons because when u die, you gotta walk the whole thing from start to where u died
daring marlin
Prolly never see that goof again
drowsy comet
idk if its in M+ too , havent died yet there :p
round pendant
oh sweet summer child
drowsy comet
its winter
round pendant
If you're concerned about people crashing out in tw when you fuck up
people are a lot more displeased in m+
drowsy comet
nah not concerned, i really dont give a fuck
daring marlin
drowsy comet
i have a hard shell
round pendant
wait til you're 25 minutes into a dungeon and you fuck up on the boss and the whole party calls you slurs
drowsy comet
round pendant
no
drowsy comet
glad MDT exists for that kinda stuff
proper roost
the real test of tank ego is when the entire group is flaming u and u have to nut up and close chat and just play
and you know its 1000% ur fault
many lesser tanks have broken from this
many such cases
round pendant
Routes are irrelevant until like +14 I'd say
You're on my back you're going the scenic route
drowsy comet
the real test of tank ego is when the entire group is flaming u and u have to nu...
why would I nut all over the chat
jagged pier
Routes are irrelevant until like +14 I'd say
Higher
proper roost
i bricked a decent PSF in like 2nd to last week of keys, it was extremely good
i found out there is no railing in the back of the last boss area
round pendant
but gotta consider the dps I get in pugs are awful and doing like 60% of what they should be doing
proper roost
gamer moment
proper roost
feet guys are so weird
proper roost
u guys really are just so afraid of anything
drowsy comet
feet guys are so weird
yummy stinky feet
round pendant
I've seen it
jagged pier
from what ive heard is going on wallpaper engine
drowsy comet
tho wallpaper engine has a shit ton of random corn on it bruh
round pendant
feet guys are so weird
You're a very judgmental person kanga
Personally I like that everyone's a little cooked in some ways
drowsy comet
idk if i can post it here, i think i shouldnt
round pendant
as long as they ain't harming anybody ofc
drowsy comet
yeah paladin was my main for a long time
thats why ur so corny
round pendant
did you know it's like 1 in 4 guys who like feet
drowsy comet
not me
round pendant
Yep there are foot freaks all around us
proper roost
it's definitely a weird objectification thing
drowsy comet
imagine liking feet
round pendant
round pendant
You're the one who got excited for the feet login screen
proper roost
no one will ever ask why it's like 99.99% men and not women who have the foot thing, too afraid for introspection
🤐
drowsy comet
You're the one who got excited for the feet login screen
i wasnt excited, it was a funny thing that popped up
like dimmy butt exists too yk, and ppl use that as their wallpaper 
drowsy comet
no one will ever ask why it's like 99.99% men and not women who have the foot th...
theres women who like stinky arm pits, sweaty tshirts, and other weird stuff tho
round pendant
round pendant
I mean I'd say pits are similar to feet
drowsy comet
whats sexy about men feet
round pendant
I personally think it's all fine
proper roost
yam is like: I have EVERY thing
they won't let me type the f word in this chat
drowsy comet
I mean I'd say pits are similar to feet
drowsy comet
yam is like: I have EVERY thing
they won't let me type the f word in this chat
we cant even react to messages, not surprising u cant spell the f word tho
round pendant
I don't have every thing
drowsy comet
yam likes sweaty arm pits
round pendant
drowsy comet
proper roost
i think today i will watch like three movies just that kinda night
drowsy comet
anyway, have u guys seen the new 25bucka bundle
literally traidingpost reskins and 700 coins
proper roost
he really is just budget khailby
drowsy comet
i think today i will watch like three movies just that kinda night
Frankenstein is pretty good, its on netflix
round pendant
that's exactly what khailby would say
drowsy comet
im just being myself
proper roost
this might be more of an indictment on how all early 20s internet poisoned guys are all the same
round pendant
What roblox does to a fella
drowsy comet
man...
round pendant
tbf my experience on the internet was mostly positive growing up
drowsy comet
granny
proper roost
maybe your judgment of people is just incorrect
drowsy comet
seriously, with all honesty, who is khaliby
round pendant
literally traidingpost reskins and 700 coins
yeah wow mtx are scams big shocker
drowsy comet
sigh i should go back to leveling my toons
round pendant
khailby is a lil gup who showed up here with aspirations to become a gigachad pwar player
and then kanga bullied him and he left for #pvp
and then he had a menty b in there after a few weeks
proper roost
He literally blamed me for him bricking a key
drowsy comet
whatever they smoke, shit must be good
round pendant
no comment
proper roost
and u still think he was telling the truth about that one
despite proof that he does that
proper roost
if i frequently blamed my teammates for playing badly why would i have so many ppl from here + on friendslist that do keys with me
khailby is literally the only person i've ever played with that i've had to remove
drowsy comet
was he really such a dick?
proper roost
Extremely weirdly 2 faced
drowsy comet
coarse bay
and accidentally slipped off while kiting the laser
Wait thats funny
proper roost
yeah i told u the story i'm pretty sure lol
it was like a decent PSF and we were like 20s to kill the boss
and then I slipped off
LMAO
Entire group was like "are u fucking serious" and i just instantly closed chat
and was like 🤐 I WILL NOT LOOK AT CHAT
drowsy comet
wdym slipped off? on a key or what
round pendant
Well my whole thing hinges on the fact the pull was just fundamentally unnecessary but he's too uninformed to adjust or understand doable-with-lust pulls vs not
but I assume you told him not to pull it like that again
proper roost
i'm bad with cliffs
round pendant
didn't you say he pulled it multiple times after
coarse bay
Khailby took everything far too serious
proper roost
my paraphrased words were "we have lust and i have all my cds up, we should try lust pulling like three packs"
lol
drowsy comet
imagine having such a f´d up personality to make others life harder than it already is.. Some people lowkey need a reality check or seek some fresh air
proper roost
And then he just repulled the same pull twice more
coarse bay
imagine having such a f´d up personality to make others life harder than it alre...
Its wow and most people in m+ dont actually have fun playing it
proper roost
i'm pretty sure i also said like "IDK if this is a good idea or not, but let's just send it, it'll be fun"
cuz
round pendant
I think Khailby was just dumb/new and didn't understand the whole nuance around with lust and without lust
proper roost
it was like a +12 lol
drowsy comet
Oh i wanted to ask this for a few weeks but kept forgetting it, What is that Bloodlust thing? i googled and only saw its a shaman spell, but i heard its a thing in dungeons too, while not having a shammy
coarse bay
Honestly people make it sound worse than it is, or maybe its just growing pains. I maybe get tank blame/shit talk like a couple times an entire season
proper roost
I think Khailby was just dumb/new and didn't understand the whole nuance around ...
Yes it's highly possible but he had a lot of difficulty adapting in general
Like he literally never understood that dps or healer cds meant u could pull bigger
I'm pretty sure you should all remember
round pendant
I think accusing him of gaslighting is a bit much is all
proper roost
he asked to try to get an exact "schedule" for every single pull in the game
round pendant
but def a dick move on his part
proper roost
Well no
it was the chat afterwards
he literally said i said to pull exactly like that over and over
coarse bay
Oh i wanted to ask this for a few weeks but kept forgetting it, What is that Blo...
It’s called lust but there are multiple classes with the same spell with different names. It’s a 35%(?) haste buff on a 10 minute cd
proper roost
which I did not, mid 2nd pull I was like "okay well maybe we shouldn't pull like this again"
drowsy comet
Its wow and most people in m+ dont actually have fun playing it
Why even play if ur not having fun
round pendant
which I did not, mid 2nd pull I was like "okay well maybe we shouldn't pull like...
okay kanga
proper roost
and he said this is what u told me to pull, and I said "because we had lust and we're limit testing"
round pendant
you're right
drowsy comet
this is what no nitro does to a mf ;(
round pendant
fuck khailby 😔
proper roost
IDK what to tell you
round pendant
no I get it lol
proper roost
I literally wouldn't drop someone just bc they're upset once
round pendant
I had lil gup tinted glasses on
drowsy comet
It’s called lust but there are multiple classes with the same spell with differe...
ahh, what classes have that? or is it healers?
coarse bay
Mage/shaman/evoker/hunter
proper roost
It takes a fucking LOT for me to literally entirely delete someone from doing keys with esp when they're new and are obviously learning
drowsy comet
Mage/shaman/evoker/hunter
i see, thx
round pendant
You always want lust btw
coarse bay
It’s good to always have a lust when building a team
proper roost
and that lot is "literally gaslighting me and saying that its my fault for trying to test a pull in a key that we're both unfamiliar with"
that's just toxic af energy lol
proper roost
that also wasn't my only key with him, I did all but like 3 m+ keys with him
and he only did like 11 lol
cerulean tusk
My question to that "I am going to test" story is, was it agreed upon before the key started that the test would be made?
drowsy comet
that's just toxic af energy lol
yk what thats called? small dick energy. Like if you are that toxic while you play with some people who you know via discord, but then being an ass like that is WILD. Like you´ll never make it far into life with that attitude ngl
proper roost
My question to that "I am going to test" story is, was it agreed upon before the...
seconds before the pull
round pendant
Y'all did bully him a lil before you ever played with him though
cerulean tusk
I can see someone get annoyed about that, sure
coarse bay
My question to that "I am going to test" story is, was it agreed upon before the...
They didnt even know the dungeon afaik and hadnt even seen the last area
drowsy comet
that might change perspective tho
proper roost
ya and I stick to my proclamation that if he couldnt take a little light razzing from here, he couldn't tank keys
proper roost
Nah this was like 1 month ago
cerulean tusk
wut
proper roost
i didn't resub until like 2 months ago
drowsy comet
interesting
proper roost
so I hadn't done 2nd part of gambit until that one key
err, this season
i did it in sl lol
cerulean tusk
yeah, I can get why he got annoyed. The norm is you plan out things before the key, discuss then what you want to do and how you want to do it. Using MDT usually
Just what ppl do nowdays
coarse bay
It was extreme late season vault and experience
round pendant
I just think khailby was primed to go schizo
proper roost
We could have wiped like 3 times and still cleared the key, which is why I was like let's just send it
cerulean tusk
For some, that is push content, even this late - I try not to dismiss things cause "it is only a 10"
coarse bay
And khailby also has an aversion to addons so wouldnt have mdt
proper roost
instead he just rage pulled it over and over and then entire group left
drowsy comet
iamgine tweaking like that in an mmo, damn
round pendant
New player, insecure about his abilities, sensitive to criticism, pushed to do keys he's uncomfortable with and then asked to do something that directly results in a wipe
cerulean tusk
And khailby also has an aversion to addons so wouldnt have mdt
the plot thiccens like curdling milk apparently
proper roost
I mean, I'm not saying I'm blameless here: I think I should have just not told a new tank to limit test
and i have learned that
coarse bay
For some, that is push content, even this late - I try not to dismiss things cau...
It still wasnt a serious enough setting to preplan an entire dungeon they havent seen
proper roost
BUT reacting like that is crazy
drowsy comet
New player, insecure about his abilities, sensitive to criticism, pushed to do k...
be like me, overthink everything and then just start playing what looks cool
round pendant
but after-the-fact saying you told him multiple times to pull it and defending his own dumb decision is cringe
cerulean tusk
As long lessons are learned, no harm is done
proper roost
he had 100% tried to use my own words to blame me
for keys going poorly before
which is... antagonistic at best?
I just let it slide before
round pendant
I mean it's toxic
cerulean tusk
Depends if those words had any weight or truth?
proper roost
i mean i didn't say them for fun
it was like e.g. "don't worry about your performance, you're doing fine, it's probably rest of the group making mistakes"
round pendant
I won't play with anyone who just tries to assign blame without a plan for improvement in future
proper roost
and he parroted that back to me in an ara-kara 12 that we bricked
Saying "idk maybe the healing is the issue then"
coarse bay
round pendant
like when I criticise my friends in keys it's usually "Can we save X for that part next time if you can?"
proper roost
an d uh, it was not
round pendant
and sometimes shit is just a mistake that everyone knows is a mistake and isn't worth discussing
proper roost
At that time I just defused it by saying like, khailby if you're just going to blame me you don't have to do keys with me
and he backed down
round pendant
Saying "idk maybe the healing is the issue then"
yikes dawg
proper roost
so it was the 2nd time that i cba
round pendant
One of my friends is pretty passive aggressive like that
proper roost
at the end of the day LITERALLY the only consequence was "I am not going to do keys with you"
i didn't tell anyone else to not do keys with him
round pendant
I laugh it off cause he sucks and he's mostly fine and I just put it off to him being salty at playing bad
but I don't push into content I care about timing or not with him
proper roost
i didn't say that he is an asshole to anyone
i just said what he did/said to me
round pendant
cause I'd snap
cerulean tusk
Well, in WoW just cut out those you dont like. Even if it is just bad vibes. Noone will judge you.
Yet, I would be careful to try to wash away criticism, even passive aggressive ones, as often they can have a kernel of truth you can take and use to improve upon.
Now, if it is just a bad vibes guy that is often salty or unhinged, I just cut em out. If the salt isnt the amusing kind
round pendant
It's weird, people seem to take "It's a team game, not everything is your fault" as "look to blame other people first"
proper roost
and ultimately for all ppl virtue signaling about helping khailby, only like 3 of us actually ever did keys with him and helped him in game
so
round pendant
well I am literally unable to
round pendant
and I'm on your side now
cerulean tusk
I just wonder why you would ever play with a charity case in the first place
round pendant
round pendant
I'd play with charity cases to help them
proper roost
it's mutually helpful
round pendant
but if they started blaming other people when they're literally the newest/worst in the group
bye felicia
cerulean tusk
guess that is a reference to some show?
proper roost
idk its like saying why would u not play with pugs
drowsy comet
oh no you deplete a key, so? get a new one and go again
proper roost
it's a lot more bad faith to assume that I was only doing keys with khailby to be mean to him
i have better things to do
lol
cerulean tusk
Why would you say ppl would assume that of all things?
proper roost
like i could just have been mean to him in chat and roasted his logs instead
round pendant
guess that is a reference to some show?
proper roost
because i know what u think 
drowsy comet
did I cook with this pala
cerulean tusk
Clearly you dont know how I think
round pendant
it's a lot more bad faith to assume that I was only doing keys with khailby to b...
I never thought that I just thought you were a bit too critical towards him for his newbie/insecure/tankxiety mindset
proper roost
not u
drowsy comet
stop ignoring my cool dwarf :(
round pendant
like the stuff he said in here was typical of new scared players
proper roost
I mean yes I do disrespect cowards
cerulean tusk
stop ignoring my cool dwarf :(
No. Not a nelf, I ignore.
round pendant
Most people in this world are anxious about things they've never done before, or they perceive to be difficult
drowsy comet
No. Not a nelf, I ignore.
sorry im not a simp. Bloodelfs are much cooler
proper roost
its pointless to criticize mid keys, just hash it out after key
too close to the emotions
round pendant
I left a dungeon once because one of my friends started squabbling with a pugger over the most inane shit
he was not happy
coarse bay
I just wonder why you would ever play with a charity case in the first place
Helping people is fun, i think thats why a lot of people hang out in class discords
round pendant
but I ain't got time for the party to int at 10 minutes in over shit that's irrelevant to the success of the key
cerulean tusk
Sure, helping ppl is fun. Yet I dont invest time in charity cases or lost causes in general. Especially not if vibes are off
coarse bay
At the time it wasnt a charity case as much as trying to get him to take his next steps
round pendant
Khailby seemed willing to learn at first tbf
cerulean tusk
Context matters, that makes more sense
proper roost
it wasn't a charity case he was ostensibly trying
It wasn't like yogi
yogi never actually wanted to do a +20
round pendant
but once it got tough he just crashed out ig
coarse bay
It was like an ultimate tilt crashout that included lashing out
proper roost
but khailby always wanted to do a +10 and up
and he always said he wanted to be in a CE guild
proper roost
🤐
cerulean tusk
Well, being in a CE guild doesnt mean you are a CE raider
proper roost
well he wasn't because he was kicked from the guild like halfway through nathria
LOL
nope he was playing hpally
round pendant
oh healer
cerulean tusk
Boy this goes back far, huh
proper roost
apparently he only played for like half a tier in nathria and then never again
it was a very weird self-humiliation ritual where he pinged another guildie from this server
and the other guy explained the entire thing
coarse bay
Boy this goes back far, huh
He was here for like 1-2 months and the discord was very active around him
round pendant
It's odd
coarse bay
Yet after everyone helping him and giving him time, the whole thing with kanga made him dislike the vibes of warriors and not want to be around people that put up with kanga
cerulean tusk
I remember the name, just someone I didnt vibe with, so I put em in my forget about it book
round pendant
Back when I was learning I'd just ask a question and then go back to playing
Khailby seemed to enjoy talking about the prospects of getting better
daring marlin
who is this khailby person
round pendant
rather than actually doing it
cerulean tusk
who is this khailby person
Someone you can partly remember the name of, but not anything of substance
cerulean tusk
My only main character in prot is the rat in a hat 
round pendant
I just put it down to him being young and dumb though
I don't think he's a bad person really
but I'm an optometrist
proper roost
channel was really dead for like entirety of october november fr
every time i checked it was like 10 days since anyone said anything
round pendant
I don't even remember what I was doing in oct/nov
did no one get my optometrist reference
Are you seriously all this uncultured
proper roost
3/10 joke
round pendant
cerulean tusk
round pendant
😔
round pendant
same
proper roost
maybe i'll even pull a ghash and take the week off so i can spam keys with him
drowsy comet
think its match 17th for keys, no?
proper roost
drowsy comet
im excited for these apex talents ngl
and being able to spend more skill points to max the hero talent tree lol
drowsy comet
never
proper roost
the only problem is osrs leagues is in april and zamn i really want to play that
😔 i wish i could clone myself
drowsy comet
wow what a potion
proper roost
might be a blast in first 2 weeks + do 1 key a week for a few weeks + push mid/late season type deal
round pendant
the only problem is osrs leagues is in april and zamn i really want to play that
now THAT I can't fucking wait for
I love leagues
I hate the base game now but I loooove leagues
proper roost
base game rules
round pendant
cba
proper roost
i have 40 hours of sand to mine
round pendant
neurons don't light up playing the base game anymore
But that's normal for me, I'll prob get the itch again in a couple years
round pendant
bring was a nice upgrade for the iron yeah
ring slot is such a weird progression in osrs
lmao
the delivery guy was in such a good mood it's legitimately brightened my day
drowsy comet
thats called rizz
daring marlin
the delivery guy was in such a good mood it's legitimately brightened my day
What was delivered?
cerulean tusk
rizz
proper roost
ri
round pendant
What was delivered?
car tyre
proper roost
cerulean tusk
I take it you got declined, eh?
drowsy comet
I take it you got declined, eh?
i dont even have a chance
strong forum
dont think hes a female
drowsy comet
you lose every shot you dont take
The shot I take is usually "Ugh, creep"
cerulean tusk
dont think hes a female
I want my drama, ya shush
toxic pewter
drowsy comet
standards these days...
cerulean tusk
Now go 2hander, go and try!
drowsy comet
<a:keksquad:766690598635044895>
hey ur bald
cerulean tusk
inform us how it goes
drowsy comet
Worst they can say is no
or call the police
toxic pewter
hey ur bald
Not just bald. I’m the alpha bald
drowsy comet
Baldiest bald
drowsy comet
Now go 2hander, go and try!
This post is also meant that this girl wants a female friend to play with. She directly mentioned no males
toxic pewter
drowsy comet
why do women have such high standards to begin with
toxic pewter
Cuz they don’t want no broke boys
round pendant
erm
cerulean tusk
You will find out as you get older
drowsy comet
"he needs to make 500k a year"
round pendant
no incel posting in here please thanks
drowsy comet
yea no shot
daring marlin
why do women have such high standards to begin with <:monkahmm:13825906004396647...
why do you care brother 
drowsy comet
no incel posting in here please thanks
are u a woman, maybe u can explain not judging u
drowsy comet
why do you care brother <:peepologs:1085590566554828900>
always curious about it ngl
drowsy comet
toxic pewter
daring marlin
apb just ran our boy over
toxic pewter
round pendant
yea
cerulean tusk
how did you know?
drowsy comet
i didnt wanna look like a creep
daring marlin
i didnt wanna look like a creep
cerulean tusk
i didnt wanna look like a creep
The trick here is to push through and get to the point of you asking. Probably a "hey did you know this about the game?" or sometimes "you want to play together?"
round pendant
I wouldn't have my ingame status public if I didn't want people looking at it
It is in fact not creepy to click my name
cerulean tusk
ngl, never really clicked names before. Apparently some ppl do stuff with their profile to show things when you do
APB simple as a facebook profile from back in my day, I dont know why I expected anything different. It is perfect
round pendant
Yeah I'm not much of a name clicker
cerulean tusk
this is kinda how I thought all looked
round pendant
I think my bio's said what it's said for 10 years now
drowsy comet
not like this
open this at 3am and u get flashed
cerulean tusk
jagged pier
this is kinda how I thought all looked
cerulean tusk
<:BearHmm:1182047397581422672>
I knew I seen that name, Khali was the lill' green dude, now I 'membeh
toxic pewter
I am definitely the least creepy individual in this discord
cerulean tusk
That is what you feel, for sure
warm plinth
Man that was a weird dream. Good morning
toxic pewter
morning
cerulean tusk
Good morning weird dream, welcome back
warm plinth
I was trapped by these weird creatures in some icy place and got saved by my sister in a brown pickup truck while they chased us. One of them looked like a spring-like version of Unown (the pokemon) and could hit you with some kind of mental pulse that made it so you could barely move or think
round pendant
my last dream would get me automodded to describe
daring marlin
not like this
Why is yours so basic, FUNKY??
daring marlin
I am definitely the least creepy individual in this discord
cerulean tusk
Why is yours so basic, FUNKY??
WHAT DO YOU MEAAAAAN?!
toxic pewter
https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that...
that guy is funny i watched him in this show bout a chair
also movie called friendship is pretty good
APB FILM RECOMMENDATION
approved
drowsy comet
WHAT DO YOU MEAAAAAN?!
that ur account is looking lame
drowsy comet
https://media.tenor.com/7GRnkowhiLgAAAAM/jujutsu-kaisen-mahito.gif
smash
proper roost
drowsy comet
what the dog doin
cerulean tusk
getting exercise, tho for the love of all, please tell me they allow the beagle to get to catch it in the end
toxic pewter
animal abuse right there
nothing pisses me off than people teasing animals like that
drowsy comet
You can do the same thing with people actually
cerulean tusk
seems fine to me, as long as they allow the dogo to finally catch it before it gets frustrated
drowsy comet
cerulean tusk
toxic pewter
Just tellin it like it is.