protection

[tribal wharf]

the one panda one

apparently wod dunno

[coarse bay]

Panda and wod ya

[tribal wharf]

legion i think, 8.3

i think a bit in df

[coarse bay]

Like 18 month final patches

[warm plinth]

They said that each of the worldsoul expansions have their own team

[round pendant]

I think the game is just fundamentally designed in a way that it's never gonna feel good value to me

[mighty valley]

they've seen what happens when they take longer to release stuff though, and clearly the strat of releasing more basically unchanged wow content, more often is working for Numbers

[round pendant]

It's more that I don't get where the value is for those people

I have nothing against them

[mighty valley]

if you'd like to join me in bringing down the architects of global capitalism, i'd be down

[round pendant]

Other than when they get catered to like with housing slop and delveslop

and m+ gets ruined

[round pendant]

m+ is ruined by proxy of overall gameplay being ruined but it's only relevant to higher end content anyway, the slop content doesn't care if the gameplay is gutted

[tribal wharf]

i don't hate delves

rather not do them but i dont hate them

[undone beacon]

I think saying that delves and housing ruin M+ by proxy is such a reach ngl

[coarse bay]

I genuinely think an 18 month patch while they actually prepared midnight properly wouldve been better than what theyre doing

[round pendant]

Thats not what I said Pash

[undone beacon]

"Other than when they get catered to like with housing slop and delveslop and m+ gets ruined"

[mighty valley]

can you really not understand that people enjoy building video game house

is that really an alien concept

[daring marlin]

Only if they did a final neat season

[round pendant]

Housing and Delves get dev time and catered to

M+ gets gutted via proxy of gutting specs and other midnight gameplay changes

two different things

[mighty valley]

have you played midnight m+

[undone beacon]

you put them in the same stream on conciousness im going to beat you up

[round pendant]

nah but I've followed class changes for classes I know, watched gameplay of high end PTR keys, read and listened to feedback by good players

I'm not giving them money for the honor of testing it just for them to ignore my feedback either

[coarse bay]

A fated season wouldve been good

[undone beacon]

Real and true

[daring marlin]

While I agree it would only placate a niche audience. The vast majority of people want new stuff to explore.

[undone beacon]

Tying beta access to preorder was a genius marketing move but a horrid game dev decision

[tribal wharf]

i think the fated keys for x.3 is good idea

just no 3 void emmisaries

yogi never forget undersuck

3 voids at start

never ever

[round pendant]

I get it. I have no problem with the people who like that content

[coarse bay]

Is fated only endgame content? Im sure they couldve done something better than this prepatch into some sort of thing for a fated season

[tribal wharf]

i will never ev er forgive the developer that left that in there

[coarse bay]

Or prepatch shouldnt have shipped with all of these class changes

[tribal wharf]

and said, this is okay

[coarse bay]

And ui changes

[tribal wharf]

that was NOT cool

[mighty valley]

we're trading fated season for a faster expansion release. fated was to give a content drop with minimal investment to tide people over til expansion

[round pendant]

I'm just saying to see them actively harm or neglect the content I enjoy to instead put big effort and focus onto the other stuff is just annoying, especially when they ignore feedback on those other things for years

[tribal wharf]

why not faster WITH fated

for x.3

[mighty valley]

the stuff you don't like in the endgame content isn't due to neglect though, right

[tribal wharf]

cuz youare already giga powerd up by that point

[mighty valley]

the pruning etc was an active decision

[coarse bay]

Fwiw the housing aspect was handled by an entirely different team that they acquired specifically for housing

[tribal wharf]

to deal with some bs mechanic they throw

[round pendant]

yeah that's the actively harm part

[coarse bay]

Housing didnt pull any dev work or effort from end game content

[undone beacon]

Fated in the past was essentially just an updated M+/Raid/PVP season with a new dungeon pool and rotating raids from that xpac, with the dinar system to target gear

[jagged pier]

Yer its amazing how many times ive had to tell that to ppl

They think for some reason its part of the expansion teams

[tribal wharf]

i mean

[jagged pier]

When its its own team

[tribal wharf]

isnt fated just oh this special monster is now glowing orange, and so he does fire damage

and hes in your face and in your way, and then he dies

[undone beacon]

???

brother what

[round pendant]

yknow

[mighty valley]

i think "ignored feedback" is also kind of a misguided thing to think, game developers see tons of feedback from all kinds of avenues that players don't see

[round pendant]

I think yogi has like a cutting-edge brain chip that directly implants an LLM into his brain and he's just perma hallucinating now

that's the only explanation

[mighty valley]

each player sees some comments they agree with and think "they're ignoring all this feedback"

[tribal wharf]

how is fated different from what i am thinking of

[solid sun]

Wow gets made for a lot of people

[tribal wharf]

im thinking of seasons whre its some dude shows up and fucks with your stuff mid key and you gotta deal with it

[mighty valley]

fated was an entire season with a new m+ pool, new affix, rotating through all the raids of the expansion, gear upgrades, etc

[tribal wharf]

at +10 (in terms of bfa key)

[round pendant]

I mean M+ was unchanged for years and the only thing it got was a squish and resi keys when they could do so much more to iterate on it

[mighty valley]

you're thinking of seasonal affixes

[tribal wharf]

im thinking of a certain type of them

maybe fated is some +7 affix

[solid sun]

That’s not really true

They messed with affixes a few times

[tribal wharf]

i think in terms of +2 + 4 +7 and +10 afffixes

[dusky canopy]

That’s hot

[solid sun]

Added some, took some away, redid them

[round pendant]

also I don't believe that it matters that housing is a different team, they could hire more people to work on m+ for example and they don't. Blizzard still decides where to allocate resources and whether shit is even deserving of iteration in their eyes

[daring marlin]

I always thought it'd be cool of every season had a shared loot pool for all the dungeons to pull from so you don't have to spam a single dungeon for X drop til you wanna neck yourself

[round pendant]

but yes, housing didn't DIRECTLY harm m+ or raid

[mighty valley]

yeah, so they've looked at the stats and the feedback they get on m+, and have decided it doesn't need and/or isn't worth investing resources into large overhauls

that isn't necessarily "ignoring feedback" it's just coming to a different conclusion

[undone beacon]

Fated was the name for an entire season of the game, in SL the fated affix was Shrouded where some mobs were replaced with dreadlords that gave buffs on kills. There was no seasonal affix for DF's fated season as they had done away with seasonal affixes by that point.

[solid sun]

Yeah m+ focused gamers just don’t make up a large portion of the wow player base

[undone beacon]

Maybe you're conflating the shrouded affix with fated as a whole

[tribal wharf]

well, what im saying right,i feel like, it should be like, clock work

x.0 ??? affix +10s (bfa terms)

[winter basin]

who makes up a large portion of the wow player base then? Raiders?

[round pendant]

They make an insane amount of money from people who do m+

And they stay subbed for months

[tribal wharf]

x.1/2 is like, it changes the bosses or monsters damage

[winter basin]

Like there's how many million keys run/wk

[solid sun]

People who don’t do any content we would consider challenging at all

[mighty valley]

if you made an insane amount of money from something how much would you fuck with it

[round pendant]

Not everything is just based on % of players when it comes to it being millions of dollars

[tribal wharf]

and then x.3, there is back up units being called, repeat for y.0

[round pendant]

I mean I'd personally aspire to make my product better regardless of how well it's doing

[daring marlin]

People that run around collecting stuff

[undone beacon]

I mean its disingenuous for either side to make a claim that X or Y group makes/doesnt make money. We don't have those details, we're running off assumptions entirely

[mighty valley]

sorry, the shareholders in Yam, Inc disagree

[toxic pewter]

blizz realized that making wow into the sims is actually a much more intelligent plan to make more money.. the actual 'wow' we all remember and love is effectively going away

[round pendant]

I just love how it always boils down to

[toxic pewter]

soon over time 'wow' will go away

[round pendant]

"the game sucks and is going to suck just move on"

[tribal wharf]

thats not a phrase i would directly use

especially on its own

[daring marlin]

Blizzard is a company looking to maximize profits. Of course they'll aim to develop systems that grows the playerbase. Ergo housing, collectibles, etc...

[tribal wharf]

that's the phrase i use before i actually say fuck it im done

[solid sun]

I don’t think WoW sucks

[mighty valley]

idk why i get invested, there are obv parts of wow i don't think are great

i just think gamer understanding of how games are made is sorely lacking

[solid sun]

And I think when something is proven to suck they endeavor to fix it

[mighty valley]

and don't really enjoy any argument that boils down to "the players are fucking stupid" or "the developers are fucking stupid"

[round pendant]

I didn't call anybody stupid

[coarse bay]

I think housing shouldve been added years ago, and im glad they finally added. Completely separate from what i think about other aspects of the game

[mighty valley]

idk, it's the implication of "they pander to slop-eating hogs" right

[tribal wharf]

i think the biggest thing of all when it comes to player housing

as long as they arent making, like, you know, 1937 germany symbols

let them do whatever the hell they want

[round pendant]

I use strong wording so my point is invalid?

No they focus on content I don't like instead of content I do like and I have a problem with that

and they make the content I do like worse

idk how many times I gotta say it

[coarse bay]

Valid opinions

[round pendant]

It's annoying to see an announcement stream and be so incredibly whelmed

oh well

[tribal wharf]

we got like a million raid bosses and 10 million dungeon bosses at this point

[mighty valley]

just don't call it slop and i'll shut the fuck up forever lol

[solid sun]

They’re teaming up with habitat for humanity. That’s pretty cool

[tribal wharf]

its pretty safe to say blizzard can take all that data, and figure out what mechanics and numbers do and dont work for combat

[undone beacon]

y'know im genuinely surprised at the restraint of the community in this regard

[round pendant]

I don't think housing is actually slop fwiw

[coarse bay]

Tbf i dont see a problem with content someone doesnt interact with being slop to them

[round pendant]

Housing is fine, it's a good feature

I think delves are slop though

ngl

[coarse bay]

I dont see slop as a bad word, and its from their perspective

[solid sun]

Because it’s disingenuous or unfair

[round pendant]

guys I need to go prep for poe

[mighty valley]

it just sets me off as a game developer to conflate AI garbage that floods social feeds with actual stuff real people worked on

[undone beacon]

I think its the implication of what "slop" means to people in a modern context. We literally had the semantics of slop conversation like a week ago

[undone beacon]

how does one prep for poe

[round pendant]

"slop" didn't originate from "ai slop" though

[coarse bay]

Ya i guess slop is like a thing now

I dont think of it as ai slop outside of the memes

[round pendant]

AI slop is infinitely worse than all I'm talking about

[mighty valley]

yeah the base meaning is the same thing - "you cynically churned this out because you think we're hogs"

[round pendant]

I'm just trying to say the content we get in wow is very low effort cookie cutter pasted things with a pretty mount at the end

and the big set pieces like expacs have nothing engaging in the campaign (quests are awful, stories usually mid nowadays)

raids are good usually tho ngl

[toxic pewter]

any day now gonna get paid housing decor surprised it hasnt happened yet tbh

[round pendant]

even tho I hate raiding

[coarse bay]

Ya, outside of the words used I think it’s fair to feel strongly if you see content you care about taking a turn in a direction you dont like, while seeing other content getting attention

[mighty valley]

i do kinda hate the story right now, even if it's a struggle to figure out when i thought it was overall good

[coarse bay]

Im not saying i agree btw just that i see where its coming from

[toxic pewter]

what they really need to do is create player made decor catalogue where people can buy and sell products using irl funds

raids and shit like that dont make blizz any money

[undone beacon]

I'm gonna beat you up irl

[toxic pewter]

lol

[round pendant]

just replace 'slop' with 'uninspired' then

[mighty valley]

what if they introduced real ownership into the housing decor market... they could be represented by some kinda token. ideally not a fungible one

[toxic pewter]

yeah

[round pendant]

cause effort isn't really relevant cause I'm sure a decent amount of effort goes into every piece of content in wow

[toxic pewter]

i want to be a landlord

like that is the wow i want

[round pendant]

like delves clearly took time to make

the zones, objectives, unique mobs and rewards, etc

they're just bad

[undone beacon]

And thats a fine opinion to have, yeah

[round pendant]

it took 6 seasons for valorstones to be removed

[undone beacon]

I think the disconnect and argument boils down to (everyone in skyholds favorite word) semantics

[coarse bay]

[round pendant]

I wouldn't care if they made m+ worse for a season if it seemed they were actively trying to improve it and come up with new things

which tbf, they were changing it a decent amount in tww

resi keys were nice but then never iterated on

[mighty valley]

they are currently attempting to do that by redesigning all classes and adjusting the dungeons to match

[round pendant]

half the changes were designed to make raid "better"

m+ is actively griefed by them

[mighty valley]

the result appears to be that they've made m+ worse for a season and you're justifiably unsubbing lol

[round pendant]

and also I think the pruning is awful

[coarse bay]

I do wish they’d be more aggressive with changing things and trying things out, but blizzard is too big with too many restrictions maybe idk. I want them to try things with resi and not just make it and leave it

[undone beacon]

I wish they would use the PTR as an actual place for experimentation

[round pendant]

Gotta plan my build and etc

[round pendant]

imagine if they just threw out tests on there, collected feedback, iterated, repeat

god the game would become better in like 1 year

[coarse bay]

True

[round pendant]

Maybe I'm just overly cynical

[coarse bay]

Like it’s called test realm not practice m+ mode

[round pendant]

I shall leave to think about this more deeply

I still dunno how I'll gaslight myself into thinking wow outside of m+/raid is worth the money though

[undone beacon]

literally thats what i want. Put some wild ass changes out there, let people fuck around and see what works, iterate, experiment, TEST

[mighty valley]

other people believe in mandatory military service, i believe in mandatory game dev service

[undone beacon]

Want to see how this class change feels? We put it on the PTR for a week, go wild

Fuck it if you particpate in PTR experiments you get a plushie for your fuckin house

who cares just do SOMETHING with it

[round pendant]

yeah and ptr should be free too

no sub required

unless they're testing new expac stuff ig

[mighty valley]

yeah and every line in the patch notes should have a poll next to it

game design by democracy

[round pendant]

I mean

[tribal wharf]

oh god

[round pendant]

works for osrs

[tribal wharf]

i read about the fated affix

and it reminded me of doing de other side

with that one affix that its, you kill things and then when you get enough it blood lusts you

and that was the worst experience of my life

[daring marlin]

It's so funny seeing yam yapping in here still only cuz I remember doing the same with them two years ago in DF

good times tbh

[mighty valley]

lmao

i am interested to see this place in six months

the midnight changes are bigger for sure, so maybe some people really are done

but yes, the dooming is a regular event

[coarse bay]

Im hopeful for a good expac, but it needed some more time in the oven

[tribal wharf]

I personally am going on the grand crusade of heresy!

on a quest to rid the land of anything evil

currently mid way in one of the heretic wads, turns out is 3 episodes of 9 maps, not just 1 wad of 3 or 5 maps like i was on bfore

[round pendant]

wtf did I doom about in DF

[tribal wharf]

one of the maps in the packs so far was LITERAL called torture, wasnt that bad

[round pendant]

or do you mean me yapping in general

yeah I'm a yapper

I personally think it's okay to not like things

[daring marlin]

I'm a boomer. Not playing for two years and coming back to all these changes has me like

[round pendant]

or to like them

The beauty of the human experience is that everyone is at least a little different

[daring marlin]

Just funny stuff

[round pendant]

What about it

[tribal wharf]

if you look up mine from 2023 it will all be complaining about RLP fire dmg

[undone beacon]

I didn't say that >:(

[tribal wharf]

NO KICKS

i will say

[round pendant]

Why the fuck does guilford remember some random ass thing I said 2.5 years ago

[daring marlin]

You're a funny guy

I remember names bro

[round pendant]

I mean

[daring marlin]

And finding stuff is easy

[round pendant]

Still not sure what your point is or what's funny about it

[mighty valley]

i'm enhancing your ideas

it's improv

i'm yes anding

[tribal wharf]

rip

[daring marlin]

Did you read what I said? I'm amused that despite being gone for two years we're still yapping at eachother in a similar fashion

That's it buddy. Not that deep.

[round pendant]

It's just that you quoted a message from when you said something snarky to me

so I thought you were making a point

😔

I agree, it's cute how things don't change

Yogi is still yogi-ing

[undone beacon]

I don't "yes and" I "no but" smh my damn head

[round pendant]

I'm still saying the game is slop and bad

I've improved on the criticising puggers avenue though

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cutecute-conmeo-gif-3800837480808729888

[undone beacon]

Yogi brings a certain je ne sai quois to this channel that is impossible to replicate

[mighty valley]

no butts? i don't think you believe that

[undone beacon]

there is a gif i really want to post but i fear retribution

[mighty valley]

just don't say h*rny, the only word that seems to get me automodded around here

[round pendant]

I don't think I can even describe what got me automodded once without getting automodded

guilford got me self conscious now too

You know what

You guys are right, I'm a negative nancy

It's gotta be that depression nimchip and y'all keep telling me I have

[tribal wharf]

I feel like with lumbering in the game now

[round pendant]

holy fuck

[tribal wharf]

there should be a thing in the cities

lumber yard

[mighty valley]

i fucking lol'd dude

[tribal wharf]

you take it to there and there is saws

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-emotiguy-emotiguy-butt-shake-emoji-butt-shake-joe-butt-shake-gif-14427695574209448709

this is yogi

[tribal wharf]

and logs and boards and nails

[mighty valley]

he's never happy

finally prove there's lumber in the game and the man wants more

[round pendant]

Yogi yogi outside stormwind there's a nice lumber yard

they could use that

reinvigorating old content

[undone beacon]

Theres a lumber mill in wod

[tribal wharf]

right exactly

and it has the mech thingy

saw blade goblin tree chopper

[daring marlin]

I'm rolling dude

Yogi just yapping at the wall per usual

[tribal wharf]

this is so totally simple

this vision i have

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

Skyhold is his journal

[round pendant]

Damn I've outyapped yogi in here now

by 3k messages

[tribal wharf]

well, i dont feel much like continuing that crusade i spoke of

im starting to want to break from it for today

the doom heretic one

[round pendant]

I hope it never changes

I want to visit back here in 10 years and see the same thing

[tribal wharf]

sooner it comes out and i can give judgement

sooner i'll know

[solid sun]

I wish I could play wow

[round pendant]

idk why my takes are so contentious tbh

It all just boils down to me wanting the game to be gooder for everyone

[mighty valley]

you phrase them aggressively and i'm an irritating pedant lol

[round pendant]

That's fair

Maybe I shouldn't use the word slop

you're right

[solid sun]

Sometimes your messages don’t come across like you want the game to be better for everyone

[round pendant]

well in my criticism of the 'slop', I'm just saying they should make the content better for everybody so that I'll like it too

not that it shouldn't exist

[mighty valley]

some stuff is just probably never gonna be for you

like, if "undemanding repeatable solo experience" is the goal, is that something you even want in your life

[round pendant]

probably not tbf

[mighty valley]

delves look exactly like something that was commonly asked for by solo players in previous eras of wow

do they excite me? no but they were pretty directly asked for, loudly

[round pendant]

I was hoping they'd scale into something meaningfully challenging though

[mighty valley]

they probably are for the people who asked for them

[round pendant]

and ig you run into the issue where if you do make it scale the point that it's not trivial for me

You make those players feel like they have to do it too

if there's rewards/titles/chievements

[mighty valley]

yeah it's release torghast

[lament osprey]

Hello, took a break for a bit, for pre patch, is archon.gg still good to use for talent trees? Just look at logs?

[tribal wharf]

torghast only bad because weekly

[mighty valley]

tons of players found it literally impossible to get the max rewards out of it but felt like they had to

[undone beacon]

For now just use the wowhead or icyveins guides. Prepatch logs and ranking are meaningless

[lament osprey]

🫡

[round pendant]

I still think there's no excuse for questing to be so bad though

I'm hoping the midnight story is at least cool

not that I really care about story but, jesus

DF and TWW stories being so bland is insane to me

[mighty valley]

questing has also iterated towards sanding off all the interesting edges that made people mad lol

[round pendant]

yeah and now it's like

you just fly to npc, talk to them, fly elsewhere, click some glowing things, repeat

sometimes you kill a couple mobs

that are trivial

[solid sun]

Well tbf I think the delve bosses are challenging

Like the 1v1

Whatever it’s called

[round pendant]

they should bring that lemix heroic world thing to retail

but honestly if it's optional it'd just make the game slower and everyone who likes harder content just wants to get to raid/m+ anyway

[solid sun]

I think questing is one of those things where it’s been optimized to where it isn’t fun anymore

Or not fun in the same way

[round pendant]

It's my most boomer take but flying from the start was a mistake

[solid sun]

Vanilla wow whirlwind axe quest for warriors

[round pendant]

as in from the start of the expac, not like flying as a concept

[solid sun]

That kinda stuff wouldn’t work today because the whole adventure part of it would be too slow and piss people off

[undone beacon]

I think people who want that just go play classic tho lol

It’s a fundamentally different game at this point

[round pendant]

idk, I feel like if the story and questing was fun enough people would just enjoy the experience if it was a lot slower and engaging

but you'd have to time gate m+ and raids a lot more

[solid sun]

Yeah I don’t think so. Everytime someone I know levels in retail they wanna zoom as fast as possible. All gas no brakes

Myself included

And I’m considered a slow leveler because I watch the cinematics and stuff

And like do minor exploring and pick up toys

[round pendant]

Is that not because the questing sucks?

and you just want it to be over so you can do the fun stuff at max level

[solid sun]

It’s because they wanna do the max level stuff and level more characters to be ready

[daring marlin]

you're fine bro I just like poking you

[toxic pewter]

the thing is once you experience the story once you want to go as fast as possible

[mighty valley]

people download in-game guides to get through classic leveling asap too

[toxic pewter]

like in diablo 2, story owned, but rushing was always a thing

[round pendant]

Yeah that's so cooked

but ig it makes sense after you've levelled a few to 60

[solid sun]

I’ve never heard someone say “I wanna zoom through leveling fast because questing sucks”

Not to say no one thinks that

I just haven’t heard it

[round pendant]

but with expacs, it should be novel enough to be okay with it being slow the first time each time

[mighty valley]

it's just a natural problem that comes with a game like wow that has several games in it

[coarse bay]

I think the argument is that people would enjoy the process and take more time doing it if it were deemed as good

[mighty valley]

vanilla was kind of magical because no one really thought of the concept of "end game" as they were playing their first character

but now a huge section of the player base can't help but feel "this stuff doesn't matter, get me to the real game"

[coarse bay]

I wanna zoom through leveling because imo the entire leveling and questing experience sucks

And i wouldnt know how to improve it for me, no suggestions to give

[round pendant]

Yeah but I can still vibe and level on classic slowly and still feel like I'm having a good time even if I've seen it before

[coarse bay]

This is also a major part of the problem

[round pendant]

retail questing actively feels bad to me

[solid sun]

It doesn’t feel bad to me most of the time

[mighty valley]

well... that's partly because you know classic endgame isn't exactly a thrilling destination lol

[solid sun]

But I like the story

[round pendant]

cause each step is whatever, no thought just go waypoint and click thing

it's 100 steps of inane chores whereas in classic I'm exploring and killing shit that doesn't die instantly and playing my character

[coarse bay]

Ya questing is so repetitive and formulaic

[round pendant]

even if most of the quests are just kill 10 wolves

[coarse bay]

With no sense of reward

[round pendant]

it's wild how different it feels

[coarse bay]

No sense of accomplishment

[solid sun]

I think that’s okay. It could be changed up but I still believe if it was changed and the changes made it take longer people would get upset

[round pendant]

also rhino mentioned whirlwind axe

I miss the rpg-ness of getting some busted weapon early and it being giga

[coarse bay]

I dont think longer is really the fix here

[mighty valley]

that stuff is so cool the first time through

when you feel like you've found something special

[coarse bay]

They can shorten the questing experience but make every quest a little more unique

[round pendant]

and fwiw I never played vanilla in 2004 so it's not nostalgia goggles for me

[mighty valley]

it's the opposite, it's kind of new to you

[toxic pewter]

really just want loadouts already like i want to make a dk and just play it right away

[coarse bay]

I mean you kind of couldve up to legion

Just get funneled and go

[toxic pewter]

yeah but i mean like from the start screen

click a button

boom im ready to go with bis gear

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[coarse bay]

Idk gearing and progression is such a huge part of the game

[toxic pewter]

not for me

[round pendant]

Although didn't the quest designer for retail quit or get fired or something not so long ago?

[coarse bay]

Maybe have a gamemode for it

[round pendant]

I might be misremembering

[mighty valley]

yam: "they've taken away too much of the stuff that makes this feel like a real rpg"
apb: "i want to press button to have a completed character"

[toxic pewter]

I mean why not

[round pendant]

apb's opinion is a side effect of questing sucking

[toxic pewter]

call of duty ceo lady

[round pendant]

that's my cope

[daring marlin]

APB JUST LEVEL ONE BRO

[toxic pewter]

wish i had what shia lebeuf has

[coarse bay]

They could have the option, separated from regular wow

[toxic pewter]

fuk dat call of duty ceo lady say i get load out

[coarse bay]

Tbh if it attracted more players, why not

[mighty valley]

counterpoint: what if questing sucks because lots of people have apb's opinion

[coarse bay]

M+ servers

[toxic pewter]

wow is no longer an mmorpg

like

just make it easier to play the mode u want

why bother with the nonsense

[coarse bay]

Personally gearing is one of the most enjoyable things for me

[toxic pewter]

well

[daring marlin]

Faith in Jesus?

[toxic pewter]

wow is no longer the game for you

[coarse bay]

But it is

I do plenty of gearing

While u dont get to skip gearing

[toxic pewter]

Not once loadouts happen

[coarse bay]

Lmao

[daring marlin]

Shit

I need to go into my screenshots

And look for apb posting predictions

[toxic pewter]

unironically a solid answer

[daring marlin]

and how none of them have happened

[toxic pewter]

why dig up the past

im a new man

[round pendant]

Then why do they keep making 4 zones with 100 a->b quests then?

[daring marlin]

I'm literally cackling bro

[round pendant]

Surely if everyone thinks like apb they'd just skip the middleman here

[solid sun]

Wow needs Warcraft Go

[daring marlin]

[toxic pewter]

[solid sun]

Make a character and walk around as them on your mobile app

[undone beacon]

why use the jakey version and not the OG

[solid sun]

Leveling it up while you do stuff

[toxic pewter]

DONT YOU GUYS OWN A PHONE?!

[daring marlin]

SKYHOLD IS SO PEAK

[undone beacon]

wrong again

[coarse bay]

Lmao

[round pendant]

are you mocking me

[coarse bay]

I dont even keep the original

[round pendant]

[toxic pewter]

no lol i just got a lot of uhhh cringe posts back then

coughs

[mighty valley]

because they still have some principles of what matters in an mmo even if they sand some of them away over time lol

[toxic pewter]

nome had it right all along ngl

that guy is lightyears ahead of all of us

[undone beacon]

The love of my life, Zetlanna

First and last message here

[round pendant]

I think it's more respectful to just let it die

[solid sun]

Pash

[toxic pewter]

omg is that the original post

zetlana

[undone beacon]

yes

[toxic pewter]

what a legend

[solid sun]

That’s Zetlanna

With a T

[round pendant]

Any message from me that's more than a year old feels like a whole different person lmao, I hate reading them

[undone beacon]

hush

[toxic pewter]

I simultaenously stand behind everything ive said and also dont ever want to see any of it again

[round pendant]

They said that and instantly left

They have no idea the impact they had on us

[solid sun]

New crit role tonight

Who watching

[round pendant]

[toxic pewter]

lol poor zetlanna

[undone beacon]

Nothing I have ever said has ever been wrong or falliable, I am omni-potent and omni-present

[toxic pewter]

that is the skyhold way

[coarse bay]

It is very easy and attainable for me to agree

[undone beacon]

the way i actually cackled at this was frankly disgusting

[toxic pewter]

[coarse bay]

I have fun in here

Everyone’s cool

[solid sun]

Pash are you also unflappable

[undone beacon]

Cannot be flipped nor flapped

[daring marlin]

is that right

[toxic pewter]

[round pendant]

I want zetlana to return

although I'm convinced they said that cause I was shitting on asmongold

so probably best they don't

[daring marlin]

Disgusting

[toxic pewter]

lmao

I actually was one for like a few days

[coarse bay]

They are a part of dream grove if you want to look for them

Just ping them in channels until u meet them again

[undone beacon]

I dont think they ever say anything there tho

[coarse bay]

I dont think so

But theyll see the ping surely

[undone beacon]

Dreamgrove makes me sad rn its a lot of big sad energy

[coarse bay]

Ya

I dont even go there anymore

[round pendant]

Is wow in a recession?

[coarse bay]

No heybear

[round pendant]

wow's great depression

[round pendant]

wow stonks down

[coarse bay]

It feels like there’s more negativity around rn than usual

[daring marlin]

@toxic pewter remember your WoW 2 posting?

good times

[coarse bay]

Most classes aren’t happy with current state

[round pendant]

I don't think there was like any negativity before tww right?

I remember feeling optimistic for tww

[coarse bay]

People were upset that tww was df2

Maybe that was after

[round pendant]

but I was happy that pwar was gonna slap

[coarse bay]

A season 1 opinion

[mighty valley]

i think people were whelmed by tww

[round pendant]

yeah

[toxic pewter]

[round pendant]

it's like DF

acceptable, mostly enjoyable

[toxic pewter]

df actually better then tww imo

[round pendant]

but not really a stand out

[mighty valley]

df had more freshness

[undone beacon]

I look back on DF very fondly, I will look back on TWW as whelming

[round pendant]

I kinda agree

[undone beacon]

DF was a breath of fresh air after shadowlands especially

[round pendant]

I kinda prefer DF M+ ngl

[toxic pewter]

tww will go down as a very forgettable and lowly ranked xpac

[round pendant]

I miss being overpowered tonk

[coarse bay]

Being someone who didnt play much DF at all, i really liked tww

[daring marlin]

DF S1 and 2 were pretty good

Can't speak for later tho

I was goooooone

[mighty valley]

the aug era was a little ehhhhhh

[toxic pewter]

df as a whole was a banger actually cool raids imo

dungeons solid

continent large

inviting

encouraged exploration

tuskarrs

[coarse bay]

Ya people complained that tww zones were small and separated compared to df. Thats just an aspect of the game that i dont tend to care much about after i leveled

[toxic pewter]

well even dornogal actually one of my least favorite hubs

i unriuonically liked the airport more

in shadowlands

[coarse bay]

Ya dornogal doesnt give hub city vibes

[undone beacon]

I thought the raids thematically were super meh in DF. Like, big cave. Dark lab. Emerald Dream temple. Aberrus thematically was cool as an exploration of the black dragonflight's experiments but

Fighting the council boss and nymue in Amirdrassil always felt so contrived

[mighty valley]

i do think tww raids > df raids

i'll give it that

[toxic pewter]

yah I can ackowledge that also

[mighty valley]

not that df raids were bad

[daring marlin]

Sark was sick

[undone beacon]

They werent bad but they were largely whelming

[daring marlin]

whelming

[toxic pewter]

i liked the final bosses in df

fyrrak was cool even

[undone beacon]

Nah fuck raszageth

that fight was miserable

[round pendant]

I'm a little regretful I gave up trying to pug aotc dimmy

[toxic pewter]

i like rraszageth fight

[mighty valley]

i loved her, shouldn't have killed her off

[round pendant]

but I will say tww raids were better than df raids

thematically df was very spyro the dragon/disney shit

[undone beacon]

I liked her character but that fight was... something else

[toxic pewter]

queen ansurek was a sick fight

[coarse bay]

I never even attempted a nk/dimmy pug just for fun

[round pendant]

but I liked df M+ a lot even though I didn't push to anything remotely challenging cause my friends

[coarse bay]

Sounds miserable

[toxic pewter]

season 1 of df m+ was no joke

shit was actually difficult

[daring marlin]

FUN AF

[round pendant]

ansurek was like 80 attempts in pugs for me

lmao

[mighty valley]

m+ is usually easier to find fun when you're not really pushing lol

[toxic pewter]

same i had a lot of fun s1 df

even though i not a fan of the new talent trees and what theyve become

[round pendant]

I liked df dungeons more I think

tww had some stinkers

[undone beacon]

I think blizz saw how people reacted to their attempt at a "gritty" experience with the Maw and overcorrected into saturday morning cartoon territory with the vibes

[round pendant]

idk, they're both very close imo

[toxic pewter]

tww dungeons pretty bad

[coarse bay]

Bring back mop-legion talents

[round pendant]

like I'd give both df and tww like a 7.5-8/10

[toxic pewter]

yep

id give df an 7.8 and tww a 6.2

[coarse bay]

Our current talents dont truly give as much choice as it looks

[undone beacon]

Man i feel like everyone begged to get rid of the MOP style talents and now everyone wants them back

[coarse bay]

I was fine with them personally

And imo much more new player friendly

[toxic pewter]

yeah thats the ironic part of it all.. we need a less is more approach again

[coarse bay]

More straight forward decisions and tuning

[round pendant]

I like the tree but I agree mop style is better

[mighty valley]

for personality and vibes SL dungeons mostly sweep. shame about, uh, many other things

[round pendant]

easier to balance

I think the tree would work if wow was more rpg than it is now

[undone beacon]

GIMME DEM SOULS BWON SAM DI

[daring marlin]

Tuning started being funny in 23s in DF S1

[solid sun]

If you love something you have to let it go and if it was meant to be it’ll come back

[coarse bay]

The tree would work if there wasnt so many dead talents to avoid and mandatory talents

[toxic pewter]

they better brring bronsamdi back in 12.1 (troll patch)

[undone beacon]

Tell that to my ex wife! hyuck hyuck

sorry

i've never been married im onwy thwee

[toxic pewter]

im only married to the game

[round pendant]

I've only played BFA dungeons from like levelling dungeons but they seemed thematically cool too

I never played sl or bfa

sl had some cool ones too

[coarse bay]

I like half of the bfa dungeons

The other half not so much

[undone beacon]

I feel like thematically the dungeons are usually very strong. Mechanically is a different story

[mighty valley]

bfa had some cool vibes dungeons that got miserable when they were tough

[coarse bay]

This

[round pendant]

yeah I'm just going from vibes

[undone beacon]

I can't think of a single BFA dungeon I hate the vibe of

[round pendant]

TWW dungeons are mostly pretty bland but I love floodgate

[mighty valley]

underrot for me

[daring marlin]

BFA was sick(second half)

[coarse bay]

Bfa was cool vibes

[round pendant]

like floodgate is honestly one of my favourite dungeons of all time

[mighty valley]

i don't like being in the nasty disease town

[daring marlin]

Dazar alor was a cool raid too

[undone beacon]

Agreed, floodgate is one of my fav dungeons in this game for the vibes alone

[coarse bay]

Man they shouldnt have removed tier and maybe bfa wouldve been a little better

[mighty valley]

floodgate almost a total homerun imo

[dusky canopy]

Bro corruptions was hands down the best patch in this game for me I think

[undone beacon]

I guess kings rest/atal'dazar are kinda meh thematically. Like i get why they exist but for a hordse bfa player spending all day in dazar'alor, doing a dungeon that felt like a mini dazar'alor was kinda whatever

[undone beacon]

I liked atal'dazar when it came back more

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/kicking-my-feet-hehe-cat-tell-me-more-cat-tell-me-more-kicking-feet-on-bed-gif-1011473044113602468

[solid sun]

Corruptions were so sick

[mighty valley]

the greatest apb arc of all time btw

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

[undone beacon]

based apb

[round pendant]

Yeah it falls off a little in the tunnel but before that it's chef's kiss

[coarse bay]

Did they listen to your feedback apb?

[toxic pewter]

they should have

[round pendant]

https://klipy.com/gifs/walter-white-let-him-cook-1

[toxic pewter]

now look at the mess we are in

[mighty valley]

they say bro is still awake to this day

[coarse bay]

Ngl getting rid of haste and having baseline attack speeds might be an actual thing

[toxic pewter]

yeah thats my argument

why even have it

[solid sun]

All these disconnects are because of haste

[toxic pewter]

when all people do

is stack it

[round pendant]

guys I need a name for my poe character

something yam based

help

[coarse bay]

Yamster

[undone beacon]

Yammaslamma

[round pendant]

I find it funny how everyone has the same nicknames for me

[solid sun]

Yamburglar

[round pendant]

oh that's good

[toxic pewter]

slapyoyama

[undone beacon]

Yammama

[cerulean tusk]

That edit... why did you APB's true message, huh?

what are you hiding

[mighty valley]

that means apb edited it

[cerulean tusk]

[mighty valley]

what is HE hiding

[toxic pewter]

i edit shit all the time

i am a bad typist

this is known

[coarse bay]

No you arent

[cerulean tusk]

[coarse bay]

Dont stand for this apb

Dont listen to haters

[toxic pewter]

it was probnably a typo

or some shit

[cerulean tusk]

APB didnt post the edit tho, Harrow did post the PNG with the edit

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[cerulean tusk]

We are on to you, Harrow

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/nelson-simpsons-martin-the-simpsons-beating-gif-23208666

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hey-chicken-thanksgiving-seinfeld-gif-24100021

[undone beacon]

Horrid

[toxic pewter]

kramer

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-space-high-w3J7mstYCISqs

[round pendant]

I wish Kanga didn't hate me

[cerulean tusk]

I wish he could hate you more

[toxic pewter]

[undone beacon]

Why does she hate you?

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-cat-explode-mike-interpol-gif-13503338605162614186

[round pendant]

That is a good crunchycat

[round pendant]

uh well I have my theories

[coarse bay]

It’s an anti k-pop thing

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto

[coarse bay]

Pash was converted to a k-stan at least

[round pendant]

weebs don't get to criticise kpop fans

so I don't think it's that

[dusky canopy]

@daring marlin leg day?

[daring marlin]

That was tuesday

It was sick

[undone beacon]

damn is that what happened

[daring marlin]

My lats are fried from yesterday too

[dusky canopy]

Fuck yeah get it king

[toxic pewter]

wat is a lat

[undone beacon]

I'll fry your legs

[dusky canopy]

I need to get my bum ass lifting again

[coarse bay]

Latitude

[round pendant]

Latissimus Dorsi

the Latissimussy

[toxic pewter]

[solid sun]

Everyday

I lift myself

[round pendant]

it's the muscle that pulls your arms down/in

like during a pull up

[solid sun]

Higher and higher I go

[daring marlin]

Back day best day

[undone beacon]

I lift myself from the cot in the corner of my garage and ambulate to my neon pink uwu catgirl gamer chair for maximum grind

[round pendant]

I think deadlifts are the most satisfying

[dusky canopy]

Back n bis

[round pendant]

and then squats

and then bench

[solid sun]

Idk

[daring marlin]

DLs are aight

[round pendant]

I despise pullups

[solid sun]

I can think of days that are better than back day

[daring marlin]

How many can you do

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/ronnie-coleman-prot-warrior-tbc-wow-chad-class-gif-24723206

literally this chat rn

[round pendant]

in a row?

[daring marlin]

Yup

[solid sun]

Like my birthday. Christmas thanksgiving. A day I make a new best friend

[round pendant]

fuck all now but at my peak only like 10 with 10kg added weight

[daring marlin]

smh

[round pendant]

now probably like

5

[dusky canopy]

The fancy calisthenics pull-ups are cool as hell

[daring marlin]

Pullups are goated

[round pendant]

lmao

and I'm cheating cause I'm short and not overweight

[daring marlin]

But I like having a wide ass back

[toxic pewter]

one time i did a pullup

[round pendant]

I should get back into working out

[daring marlin]

Muh dopamine hit

[cerulean tusk]

To Nim's house?

[dusky canopy]

Seated rows always felt good

[toxic pewter]

lol i was gonna say pulled up to burger king.. but apparently it was a wendys and the guy said 'sir this is a wendys'

[round pendant]

I worked out for like 2 years and it never "felt good"

other than when I hit PRs

[cerulean tusk]

Seated rows are underrated if nothing else

[toxic pewter]

i am the original 'sir this is a wendys' guy

[dusky canopy]

You didn’t enjoy the burn yam!?

[solid sun]

Cornrows are also good

[round pendant]

nope

I think if I was to get back into working out I'd focus a lot more on cardio

[dusky canopy]

I hated the burn in my legs but loved it on back bis and tris

And chest

[round pendant]

squats just absolutely killing me for 10 minutes afterwards

no fun

[cerulean tusk]

Just do a jog in the forest, 10/10

[toxic pewter]

how long would it take someone with zero work out knowledge to get to workingg out

[dusky canopy]

If your legs ain’t shaking when you walk lift more

[round pendant]

just move your body ezpz

[toxic pewter]

i go for walks but liek i feel like my upper body losing musles

[daring marlin]

Bro I feel like I have to crawl to my car after leg day

[cerulean tusk]

The time it takes for you to start litteraly any exercise that counts as 'working out'. For some that could mean as little as standing up and sitting back down, a few times.

[dusky canopy]

Baby steps!

Ask questions, read, watch

Guilford is right here to chat

[toxic pewter]

yeah i need to stand up more even cuz sometimes my legs even feel bad

[round pendant]

okay I'm off to play poe

[toxic pewter]

i hope i dont get a dvt

[dusky canopy]

Clearly knows his stuff too based off that physique

[daring marlin]

have fun DARLING

[cerulean tusk]

Just pace your room a bit between gaming, and that will do wonders, if you are at a low level

[toxic pewter]

its just difficult cuz im ownin noobs

so hard to get away

[dusky canopy]

If the gym is nerve-racking a set of dumbbells can get you a lot of progress right at home

Along side body weight stuff

[cerulean tusk]

A lot of focus is often falling on getting into the gym, pushing hard, while for 90%, just taking a 30min brisk walk is huge gains

[toxic pewter]

i was getting 10,000 steps a day for awhile

but lost focus

[daring marlin]

Unironically true. 15min walk after every meal does A LOOOOOT.

Better digestion, easy steps, etc...

[cerulean tusk]

Walking is the goat of just good health

Never get enough spotlight

[toxic pewter]

gonna go for a walk right now lets just hope i dont door dash mcdonalds pray for me

[dusky canopy]

Heart health ++

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

Godspeed

[cerulean tusk]

To switch topic, the stream blizz had...

it was ass

Nuff said'

[dusky canopy]

What stream

[solid sun]

I just walked

[undone beacon]

We already talked about this smh

[cerulean tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/342766218358423564/1465799341511016508/TakeThisNim.gif?ex=697d0e84&is=697bbd04&hm=32f159d5e3f583a54700a5af28f2e2438104950a416b65f63cc54f902e24b16d&=

[solid sun]

I walked with steel toe boots on

[daring marlin]

My favorite cardio is definitely the stairmill

after walking shirtless outside anyway

[dusky canopy]

Ayye

[solid sun]

My favorite cardio is whatever is harder than guilford’s cardio

Like swimming

[dusky canopy]

Lmao

[coarse bay]

Im always running from my fears

[solid sun]

You don’t have to be afraid anymore

[coarse bay]

[cerulean tusk]

Cam a lean mean killing machine from all that running, the only fear remaining... ||👻 Cam's shadow 👻 ||

Oh, I just want to be mad and shaking my fist at the sky again

this fucking sucks

in all the bad levels +1

there are no good cat gifs, how can you have a gif site and you lack cats?!

[dusky canopy]

Sleeping well tonight

[cerulean tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-kitten-gzae-xinkUUmE1ww5mbOd8E

eat my Giphy high quality gif

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-10804346947536782797

[coarse bay]

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.

[cerulean tusk]

Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.

[daring marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055862971139629107/1466149969516826816/laugh_at_yoshiki.gif

[cerulean tusk]

I would react to you with a gif with a threat

IF I HAD ONE!

[daring marlin]

destroyed

[cerulean tusk]

yes. those are PNG.s

https://giphy.com/gifs/peter-snap-neck-v6JQKMM0Pzmzm

ty gifsoup.com for at least having some frames going on

[coarse bay]

Is that an ad

Are you selling out

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-car-grey-cat-grey-white-cat-gray-cat-gif-7130137244570406549

[cerulean tusk]

Make fun of me as you will but... ItWillHappenToYou.gif

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-peralta-youve-changed-brooklyn-nine-nine-brooklyn99-andy-samberg-gif-12831110

[cerulean tusk]

SadCatSulk.gif

[toxic pewter]

just got dc'd again

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-bowl-hungry-gif-5337018160645280311

!!!!!

I suggested sushi tonight and wife’s on board with it too! Let’s gooo

[jagged pier]

[cerulean tusk]

[toxic pewter]

[daring marlin]

The apbposting will continue until morale improves

[mighty valley]

based on you attacking me, apbposting is something that should be done thats for sure

[jagged pier]

Why is morale down?

[mighty valley]

probably because of the apbposting

[jagged pier]

[toxic pewter]

some1 gotta tell it like it is

just got this whisper in game

wat he mean 'keep getting it'

wat am i getting

[tribal wharf]

this would take me most of the rest of today

534 kills

getting towards too many monsters

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/snap-snapping-girl-bye-do-your-thing-gif-12320518

[toxic pewter]

[solid sun]

Is there a fun healer

[toxic pewter]

its a good question

[coarse bay]

What would make a healer fun to you lol

[tribal wharf]

what i think objectively makes a bad one is 2004 paladin healer style

[coarse bay]

Idk each healer has a flavor and style, everyone has a preference

[tribal wharf]

long cast bar that keesps getting bumped back

bad with priest i know

but you have asborb bubble and renew and fort and other shit

where paladin is that long cast but its cooldown and dps/utility cds

at least old hpal was, newer is kinda better

but again, i dont really care for playing the beacon style

if i had to choose one i would choose shaman or priest, or probably druid/monk

[mighty valley]

paladins in vanilla were never pressing the long cast time heal

flash of light forever

[tribal wharf]

lvl 34 we were

doing scarlet monestary

[mighty valley]

duly noted

[tribal wharf]

what i liked about 'classic' priest is pain suppression and fear ward

rest of priest racial was stupid without have it for everyone, which would be cumbersome

and they just have way cleaner heals overall, 2 entire trees dedicated to healing

[coarse bay]

Hear that @solid sun? choose classic priest

[tribal wharf]

not onlyhealer

but big healer

i had an onlyhealer one time and it didnt go

literaly the name of the person

[solid sun]

If I thought Resto shaman was fun

Before they changed it for midnight

What am I left with

Nothing

[tribal wharf]

i mean it has bl and kick and purge

totem

[coarse bay]

Barely has kick

[tribal wharf]

o right they nerf rsham kick

[solid sun]

So nothing then

The light of hope is dim this day

[tribal wharf]

i generally like shaman healer

chain heal

[solid sun]

Yogi

[tribal wharf]

i tend to go for aoe healer if i have to

[solid sun]

You can’t answer my question

You don’t even play wow anymore

[tribal wharf]

2004 was i was paladin healer

for a bit, not raid

[oblique garnet]

Irl

[solid sun]

The light of hope continues to diminish

[tribal wharf]

i am not a healer

ppl die when i heal

[solid sun]

Late let’s go get some brews

And talk to the bartender

[oblique garnet]

I just got home i am currently drinking a beer

No bars this week got work till sunday so i have beer at home

Wage slave january ended up working 230 hours

[solid sun]

Ouch

I’m over 200 but not at 230

I’m salary so I only check to see how sad I wanna be

[undone beacon]

There is something deeply amusing about watching dudes in lifted pickup trucks spin their tires out on banks of ice in a hotel parking when there are about 50 perfectly good paved spots on the other side of the lot

[mighty valley]

Did you see the latest changes

I don't go to rsham but was wondering if it was improved at all

[solid sun]

Negative

Let me Lookit them

It unfortunately doesn't address anything that I don't like abt the spec lol. Like, having tidal waves is cool. Glad there's something to track, ig. You'll always have two charges bc you just spam riptide all the time, so. Idk if it's really the juice get that the dev note "addressing a core talent issue pushing gameplay towards a repetitive playstyle" thinks it is

[mighty valley]

Hmm

I don't really know what I look for in a healer

Over the past few years I've defaulted to mistweaver, I like being in melee and it's the one I've played the most

[toxic pewter]

ngl most fun healer to me is holy priest

just enjoy prayer of mending bouncing around and crap

also got rid of alot of annoying buttons

renew gone and some other stuff

[oblique garnet]

I should be going over 4k maybe closer to 5k this month

They fucked up my taxation last month and took taxes that im not required to pay so they have to add that on top of next pay

[coarse bay]

Ayo

Im listening to the stream earlier

Theyre doing the import export of housing

I change my mind, W content

The fact that nobody mentioned this in the midst of all the dooming makes me sad

Ngl the megadelve thingy sounds like good content to add too

[mighty valley]

no being happy!!

stop it!!

[coarse bay]

[undone beacon]

Jakey and I were hyping during the housing segment

But then the doom kicked in after the stream ended

[coarse bay]

Ahh

Idk i think it had some good stuff

[coarse bay]

See sometimes its so much yap i cant scroll through it all when i have time to yap myself

[solid sun]

Y’all better stop tryna be happy when the wow people are talking

[coarse bay]

We take w’s where we can

[solid sun]

Cammy I’m so cereal rn

[coarse bay]

Bad things shouldnt completely invalidate good things

[solid sun]

We only do mad

[coarse bay]

Oh

Im so mad that i can import a good house

Grrr

And im mad that casuals are getting cool content

(Im a casual)

[daring marlin]

Noooo don't steal my house layout

hiss

[coarse bay]

https://tenor.com/view/its-mine-lotr-golem-my-precious-sméagol-gif-14477595

[solid sun]

There

See

Look now we are aligned in how we can spin things

[daring marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[tribal wharf]

200+ bats in this one fight

spoiler i killed them all

didnt have to

ifrits, im sorry

this map was totally insane

[round pendant]

Good job yogi

[stable grotto]

Are there any good prot warrior streamers to watch? Trying to decide on a tanking main and it has been helpful

[tribal wharf]

this map pack is making me have to cheat to reach the final portals

so i will have to end the game in a more stable engine and add it in post

bunch of random crashes

the crusade must continue, tomorrow

this is a real warrior

[mighty valley]

him booby big

I’m learning more and more every day

[tribal wharf]

he is me, a heretic

a warrior on a crusade

to purge the land of demons and evil

restore peace and order