Let's you make infinite groups, scale them individually, add text, color it, change the bar shapes and textures, etc etc.
#protection
shrewd rampart
ah nice, i used BetterCDM, guess ill give this a try
errant wagon
I tried that one first, then tried arcui and it just had more control and customization so it stayed.
neat dune
ah nice, i used BetterCDM, guess ill give this a try
bcdm is nice as it has internal support for uuf anchoring and just work well together.
also seems very lightweight and continously updated and dev is open for PRs if you want to add smth
shrewd rampart
Yeah, i sorted it by just removeing the bars, and using icons only.
Guess ill keep it like this till i see what else gets released
neat dune
buff duration is also kinda tracked through native CDM, as it prios duration over cd (which i also dont like)
ionic fern
Reading all of this,I'm dreading to do my UI. Just rolling with the default one right now.
neat dune
Reading all of this,I'm dreading to do my UI. Just rolling with the default one ...
took me 30 mins to setup BCDM with UUF from base ui
everything else seems fine with native ui
im not sure how much setup Arc and some other require but BCDM is rly good out of the box
ionic fern
Will check it after work.
Otherwise I'm just going to roll with whatever blizz put Infront of me.
neat dune
it all depends on how much customization you want
ionic fern
And pray for muscle memory to be correct.
ionic fern
it all depends on how much customization you want
I'm pretty basic.
neat dune
like the stuff zane posted above would take some time to set up with anchoring and tweaks
i dont like the overly spec specialised UI as i tend to multiclass alot in pvp so i go for more generalised ui which usualy means less setup
but theres also alot of profiles out there that are a decent starting point
also ton of exports for CDM alerts
but then again all of this is just UI sugaring,you will barely look at that stuff anyways once muscle memory is in place
ionic fern
Jeah,I will just try to minimize as much as possible.
neat dune
Jeah,I will just try to minimize as much as possible.
this is bm ui from my guild
dont think you can posibly go more minimal than that 😂
normal cobalt
Anyone gone through their BW setting up countdowns and audio ques to replace dungeon WA packs?
neat dune
but then again.. thats bm 😂
ionic fern
dont think you can posibly go more minimal than that 😂
Don't think you need your own health bar. You know you're dead when the screen turns grey.
neat dune
somber hollow
heya, last night on dimensius i decided to nuke all addons as i was tired of the errors, including plater aaand - how do you check who has aggro on boss on blizzard plates? Because the boss plate was just red all the time, no indication, symbol, nothing, and i was just vibe taunting every now and then to check if i still have aggro xd
unless thats the true blizz experience xd
"check where the boss is looking to determine who has aggro"
coarse bay
heya, last night on dimensius i decided to nuke all addons as i was tired of the...
in settings under nameplate
unique sage
Hi ! Im a New war and i search info on general.
Are you OK with pré-patch Midnight ?
somber hollow
in settings under nameplate
ty!
coarse bay
Hi ! Im a New war and i search info on general.
Are you OK with pré-patch Midni...
There will be growing pains and adjustments. Overall not too happy currently but I'm mostly disappointed with how blizzard's ui has turned out.
unique sage
There will certainly bé improvements soon, and perhaps news addons in the future ?
But for thé gameplay, personally, it doesn't seem too bad to me. We're getting some DPS right ?
neat dune
in settings under nameplate
this is decent enough would just like to use custom colors for threat. aka as tank i want bar to be green on full aggro not red, and red when i have aggro as dps
should be doable through addons tho
coarse bay
There will certainly bé improvements soon, and perhaps news addons in the future...
my problem is that blizzard has fallen back into the loop of "there will be addons to fix it"
coarse bay
should be doable through addons tho
I havent done much ui stuff yet, but it should be in plater and platynator
neat dune
my problem is that blizzard has fallen back into the loop of "there will be addo...
yes i fucking hate that
makes me use more addons now than before
coarse bay
It feels like they stagnated significantly and are putting little effort into ui features, because addons are doing it
neat dune
well i think the permis always was to just gut the combat addons
coarse bay
they failed at that imo
raiding will look nearly the same as before, but no more getting an assignment based on mechanic
there will still be reminders, notes, northensky/liquid
round pendant
raiding will look nearly the same as before, but no more getting an assignment b...
So nothing changes except the one thing that only existed cause they designed shitty bosses in the first place
And my UI and addon experience is jank now
Thanks blizz!
neat dune
raiding will look nearly the same as before, but no more getting an assignment b...
i mean you can already do Nk and dimmy without weakauras. yeah dimmy orbs will need a callout but apart from that no wa needed
coarse bay
So nothing changes except the one thing that only existed cause they designed sh...
Which I'd also like to point out, with MRT notes there will still be pre-pull assignments you can set up that will still split people and tell them what to do
it just wont be get debuff "go star"
no more fract
round pendant
The whole thing is a sham imo
neat dune
no more fract
i mean that boss design was ass even with wa
coarse bay
i mean you can already do Nk and dimmy without weakauras. yeah dimmy orbs will n...
ya you can do the entire raid without weakauras, but people didnt
neat dune
ya you can do the entire raid without weakauras, but people didnt
i mean why would you if you have them
coarse bay
exactly, and similar things will be back
and every feature and function that we want will be achieved via addons
neat dune
yeah i know. ppl already bypassing phasing restrictions etc
round pendant
They did a mostly good job of bosses not needing WAs and as a result most bosses didn't have any made for them beyond reminders/alerts that will still exist
Basically invalidating their "arms race" argument
neat dune
i mean they used private auras, thats why
errant wagon
The ui I posted took about 20 minutes to do just the CDM part of it (ArcUI)
But like my plater, UUF and dandy frames are one profile across all my toons. I just need to spend like 10-15 minutes doing per spec ArcUi stuff. It's really not too bad and let's me get the deep level of customization I want
neat dune
loomie, nk for example
round pendant
Yes, that's a good solution
errant wagon
I sustain 3 tanks each season so, I like to put in the best detail I can
coarse bay
The ui I posted took about 20 minutes to do just the CDM part of it (ArcUI)
But ...
so you had to get addons and use those to customize the ui
neat dune
The ui I posted took about 20 minutes to do just the CDM part of it (ArcUI)
But ...
oh, thats not that bad then
errant wagon
Well yea
coarse bay
thats my point is that theyve had this long to give us basic customizations and features
and we still need addons for nearly everything
errant wagon
I was more following up with sharazzor, agree all this is annoying to do at all!
round pendant
I'm sure you can go back months and find me calling it
It's sad but not surprising in the slightest
coarse bay
I'm sure you can go back months and find me calling it
I was optimistic but now that its here ive become doom
serene wave
Zane, what add-ons did you use mate? I was really WA focused for my stuff. All I have left installed now is Elvui.
round pendant
The only thing the API restrictions did is delete hekili and give us a worse experience everywhere else
errant wagon
Zane, what add-ons did you use mate? I was really WA focused for my stuff. All I...
ArcUI + Sensei Resource Bar is doing all the heavy lifting
round pendant
Deleting hekili is good but not at the cost of my fun as someone who doesn't use it, I just don't like it on principle lmao
If I came back I'd probably just write my own addon to customise all the UI elements tbh
Already did that for chat, minimap and action bars anyway
neat dune
I was more following up with sharazzor, agree all this is annoying to do at all!
yeah....
neat dune
Deleting hekili is good but not at the cost of my fun as someone who doesn't use...
the H word is forbidden in my guild
serene wave
ArcUI + Sensei Resource Bar is doing all the heavy lifting
Thanks bud
round pendant
the H word is forbidden in my guild
Yeah I fundamentally despise it, but players who use it never perform good enough that it's a real big issue. Almost like there's more to the game than just doing your rotation right
gloomy solar
Yeah I fundamentally despise it, but players who use it never perform good enoug...
idk i never touched arms then parsed a 96 on NK when trialing a tank. Hekili was goated if you knew where your binds were
solid sun
I just don’t really think Hekili does what it says it does, but that may be subjective
dark barn
someone knows and can link a addon with a custom bar for ignore pain (and maybe shield block)? i really dislike the blizzards ones
solid sun
lol what got you
azure temple
is there an addon to track co tanks debuffs for raid?
gloomy solar
is there an addon to track co tanks debuffs for raid?
🙁
- noisy raid frames debuff crap
- discord + ears
ThAnKs BlIzZaRd
coarse bay
is there a good addon for tracking IP and block %
wheat scroll
If you were to order abilities and procs in priority order and were able to find a way to hide unavailable abilities and slide active ones to the left, you pretty much have much of the hekili functionality outside of it literally telling you what to actually press.
vestal abyss
question - why don't we take rallying cry in m+?
wheat scroll
What would you give up for it?
vestal abyss
damage? i mean the wowhead build is pure dps, i guess that's just because prepatch is meme?
wheat scroll
It'll definitely be one of the the talents I spend the 3 extra points on when leveling to 90
Super last stand in M+ for the group is pretty damn nice
That + fearless and champ spear seem like nice options at 90
vestal abyss
That + fearless and champ spear seem like nice options at 90
aren't those for the apex talent?
or is apex talent kinda mid
coarse bay
damage? i mean the wowhead build is pure dps, i guess that's just because prepat...
I just hopped on and did some 20-21 keys without even setting anything up, and keys are a joke. Feels like 12s
We really dont need to optimize defensively rn
vestal abyss
We really dont need to optimize defensively rn
good to know, cheers
ionic fern
question - why don't we take rallying cry in m+?
You can do this
If you want rallying
ionic fern
Jep
noble wagon
How come demo shout can be added to tracked bars but not shield wall?
coarse bay
If it cant, then it’s just a blizzard thing, theyre all over the place with whats included rn
Like some things arent trackable if they have certain talent choices
noble wagon
Figured. it's kind of odd they do the same thing but can't track both.
jagged pier
is there a good addon for tracking IP and block %
Its literally in the game
As a bar or an icon
coarse bay
Twas but a joke
jagged pier
coarse bay
undone beacon
Came here for Prot info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.
@warm plinth finished the puzzle
jagged pier
solid sun
Congratulations on completing the puzzle
toxic pewter
ngl I wish I had nitro for that bear emote lol its so good
solid sun
Now you must visit all those places
cerulean tusk
This be the rule
toxic pewter
oh those are national parks right
i was just at the smoky mountains national park.. very good highly recommend you guys check it out one day
toxic pewter
USA national parks are so good come over
check em out
if you can get a visa muahahahah
toxic pewter
LOL
solid sun
My home is protected
toxic pewter
checks out
my b horn dude
hope those poachers arent out to get u
need that mystical horn to snort and do weird things
solid sun
It’s true
The fam been talking about a camping trip
I told them we should visit Yellowstone
It always looks pretty in the show
coarse bay
Wizards
I was emissary of bear, but got beat in rock paper scissors so i had to forfeit the position
undone beacon
Now you must visit all those places
I spend a lot of time at Shenendoah because thats a very nice place
coarse bay
Now i must represent the mages to make people think we’re bad so that we receive buffs
solid sun
I spend a lot of time at Shenendoah because thats a very nice place
Are you my neighbor. We have a township called that just north of me
I go there all the time! Let’s hang out! Wow look at us instantly best friends
solid sun
I live in Texas homie
toxic pewter
based on that word and that information you just shared I can figure out what state you are in
oh
would not of gguesed that
i am in texas also
im in H TOWN
solid sun
Holy fuck
toxic pewter
LOL
upbeat plover
I think township is common in the US no?
solid sun
Apb and I live together IN THE SAME HOUSE
coarse bay
I think township is common in the US no?
Not everywhere
toxic pewter
i dunno Ive never used that term township before
coarse bay
I dont hear township in california
undone beacon
Apb and Rhino in a texas tree, k i s s i n g
upbeat plover
Tbf, Cali is kinda lost
toxic pewter
undone beacon
Wait leland has breached pvp containment
solid sun
Idk Shenandoah might be a city but it’s about two square blocks so it’s a township
undone beacon
Someone get a broom
upbeat plover
I see Mwahi in here, not with the pvp bros
toxic pewter
shanandoah valley
upbeat plover
Well I main prot in pve
toxic pewter
oh thats leland i know u from pvp chat
upbeat plover
I only have legend from s1 as thane fury
When everyone told me to go slayer
But big rampage make brain happy
toxic pewter
you gonna play that again in midnight i just fought a fury
they are hard to kill with that cheat death thing lol
like i executed him prob like 8 times and he woulddnt die
upbeat plover
I usually just play whichever is best
Just for my playstyle I felt thane was better
upbeat plover
But most if not all my 2400s in df were arms
And I was super close to a legend in df as arms
I was like 80/90 wins out of 100
upbeat plover
Maybe. If it's easy enough. The flag just isn't enthralling enough
toxic pewter
yeah rewards for ss suk ass
upbeat plover
I wanna try to find 3s. The glad mounts are dope this time
toxic pewter
we needa mount
toxic pewter
ok ok
undone beacon
We talk about puzzles and townships and cooking in this house
toxic pewter
i tested that new training grounds thing and i swear it will get more people into pvp imo
solid sun
Yeah let’s have a smoke out
toxic pewter
it was actually fun and helped people learn
solid sun
The weight we lift is hefty slabs of brisket into our mouths
toxic pewter
mmmm brisket
wheat scroll
aren't those for the apex talent?
Apex talents are where you'd spend the 4 spec tree points right?
toxic pewter
i just was in austin and went to this bbq place called 'interstellar bbq'
was pretty good
undone beacon
Apex talents are where you'd spend the 4 spec tree points right?
Thats the intention yes
toxic pewter
sounds about right
undone beacon
Yes
wheat scroll
Warriors should get bloodlust
toxic pewter
wild
wheat scroll
And I will die on that hill
undone beacon
Agreed but everyone fights me on it
toxic pewter
evokers getting lust over us is one of the greatest wow crimes of the 21st century
wheat scroll
No tank has lust
undone beacon
evokers got lust because they knew people would lust for evokers
toxic pewter
could of been the first
wheat scroll
Yup
wheat scroll
Remember when only druids had brez?
toxic pewter
the paldins getting combat rez also is the top 2 crimes
upbeat plover
Bloodlust sounds like a warrior spell.
How did shamans yoink it?
toxic pewter
lust and brez i remember that day vividly when they announced that
coarse bay
There was a time i was happy, but now im playing wow again. We dont always get what we want
shrewd grove
The fact that warr doesnt have a lust is legit insanity
coarse bay
Pally getting brez was weird
toxic pewter
well shamans have it from warcraft 3 and thats valid imo
undone beacon
its cuz anduin did the thing in the cinematic where he brezzed
toxic pewter
anduin is a priest tho
undone beacon
close enough
toxic pewter
lol
warm plinth
He's a priestadin
upbeat plover
I also want a banner that let's me summon people. I'm already the one always running out to places cuz locks are lazy
toxic pewter
I guess he does weild a 2h sword
shrewd grove
Meanwhile, priests with no bres are like 🤷♂️
warm plinth
Bring back remix summon scrolls tbh.
undone beacon
I also want a banner that let's me summon people. I'm already the one always running out to places cuz locks are lazy
coarse bay
They gave priest a brez, just use meld pot 4head
undone beacon
Cell is dead for midnight right?
coarse bay
Cell is dead for midnight right?
Itll be up by then
shrewd grove
I believe it will work but you lose functionality
undone beacon
I'm just purging my list, I only had Cell so i could do Triple Threat in S2
idc if you dont work anymore Peggle Classic addon im never deleting you
coarse bay
Im not old enough to know wc3, it was just odd to see it when i logged in one time after not having it for so long
toxic pewter
that was more mass rez in my view but yeah its true it can happen during combat cant deny that
so i guess there is some precedence
STILL dont like it
tribal wharf
consider it a replacement to divinie intervention, at long last.
tribal wharf
is my take
tranquil night
So your saying paladin should have a mass battle res
coarse bay
So your saying paladin should have a mass battle res
And lust tbh
toxic pewter
rofl
tribal wharf
maybe it raidtherecan be some healer wide mass rez thingy, but its once per 30/60/90 minutes and shares cd witg all whom a
can do it (only healers)
coarse bay
maybe it raidtherecan be some healer wide mass rez thingy, but its once per 30/...
That would suck
Anything that doesnt reset per pull is lame
tribal wharf
well, that would be the point, save it for when you needed it turbo badly
coarse bay
And so many cheese strats, a real attempt once an hour
tribal wharf
all i can think about i hear mass rez 1, paladin wc3 ability and 2 asmongold going apeshit about his ff14s mass rez and kill the boss
that moment was pretty cool
but i figure it has to replace bloodlust heroism, which also is going to suck
or it has some other massive basically penalty for using it
90 minutes the raid lasts for 3 or 4 hours, you get maybe 1 to 2 good shots to use it effectively
coarse bay
Maybe reduced damage or something
I just think anything with long cooldowns that dont reset is bad design personally
Shamans
undone beacon
maybe it raidtherecan be some healer wide mass rez thingy, but its once per 30/...
The closest we had was Liberation of Undermine giving a personal out of combat rez every 30 mins
That was nice tbh
tribal wharf
doesnt really fit though since we dont do 20 and 40 man raiding
rez say 6 out of 10,(paladin wc3) seems too broken
i assume raids today are 10 man
undone beacon
Mythic is 20 people
toxic pewter
apparently mythic nerub ar palace is very easy to solo right now i read
oh they may of patched it
dusky canopy
It’s patched
dusky canopy
Can still do it with like a team of 5 or so though from what I’ve heard
dusky canopy
Don’t really need to do any mechanics you just need to Zerg each boss really
undone beacon
We didn’t realize until someone went to reset it and killed it
dusky canopy
On platforms in p2 you just do portals
undone beacon
Unless you have giga damage you still need to do the first ansurek pops
Which uhhhh still fucks people up
coarse bay
Where are the popping weakauras 
tribal wharf
been having alot more fun in heretic as opposed to doom recently
wider variety of weapons and ammo types, and i can carry "on use" items with me, including power ups
where as i have to know where they are and physically collect them in doom and worry about ammo pooling
but of what i can carry, resets to 1 of each , start of a new map
shame nobody really makes maps for it
what a fantastic game.
split moss
Heyo im wanting to learn out to tank and was wondering does item level trump all other stats?
lusty grotto
yes
split moss
Or do I still need to take into account the secondary stats?
lusty grotto
after ilvl basically
split moss
Okay sweet so if its higher item level then equip?
lusty grotto
absolutely
and then you can adjust haste
the stat prio in wowhead is all you need
split moss
Awesome so secondary stats will be looked into more often when I hit the ilvl cap?
lusty grotto
only haste, the rest are within a small margin of each other
after haste you just sim
split moss
after haste you just sim
Okay awesome, thank you for the info! Gearing seems pretty straight forward for a tank then
lusty grotto
hard to say the amounts we need to talent Heavy Rep or ITF this time around because of the stat squish
its a decision node based on haste
but the jist of it is, if youre low haste you just go Heavy Repercussions
thats the only caveat with haste
but yeah Ilvl (strength) > haste > rest of stats which you sim
historically we favor crit after haste in this discord
split moss
Okay got ya, I got told not to sim tanks since simming is only for DPS, I clearly got lied too haha
But I understand what youre saying
lusty grotto
all tanks sim
warm plinth
Well, you are simming for dps, not survival. But tank survival comes from proper talents and gameplay, not secondaries
lusty grotto
so whoever told you that is incorrect
any increase in dps via secondaries is an increase in defensiveness
because secondaries provide defensive value
you can hover over them to check
split moss
Okay sweet, thank you guys!
cerulean tusk
I want to say rat is wrong, but rat is helpful to someone who needs the advice, so I cant
today is a sad day
cerulean tusk
u r wrong about everything
lusty grotto
sure but not what i just told them
dusky canopy
lusty grotto
jagged pier
fathom oasis
The knowledge I acquired during tww is now obsolete, until I gain it back by playing the new expansion I can no longer provide advice
cerulean tusk
Dont worry, 99% of advice is universal and timeless
fathom oasis
I can only provide slop now
solid sun
I wish I wasn’t so busy every day
coarse bay
with the stat squish, primary stat is even stronger now than it was before too
lusty grotto
yup
toxic pewter
why
lusty grotto
normal
even without the squish, primary is stronger than secondaries at the start of the expansion
because of secondary DRs shifting, leveling dropping the power gained by each point etc
secondaries only become stronger at the end of an expansion
or at the very least, close to the power gained by primary stats
strong forum
The knowledge I acquired during tww is now obsolete, until I gain it back by pla...
Genuinely how people think stuff works
brittle owl
Dont worry, 99% of advice is universal and timeless
99% of advice is wrong
cerulean tusk
that is a bad take
strong forum
99% of wrong is advice
fathom oasis
Genuinely how people think stuff works
I guess it's not so much " because I havent played" as much as it is "since I have not been able to play yet I have not had the impulse to educate myself on what's changed", if that makes sense?
Rather not give advice I think is obvious if there's a decent chance things have changed and I'm wrong
strong forum
I wish there were changes
coarse bay
Oh with quazii and neph?
lusty grotto
quazii? no
coarse bay
Funny
lusty grotto
danders and neph
lusty grotto
idk what quazii has to do with anything
coarse bay
Oh neph called out quazii for selling his ui
lusty grotto
i havent heard anything about that
its only danders vs neph
danders apparently made a copy right claim with curse
and it was declined lol
after doing this garbage
coarse bay
People were talking about this earlier in the mage discord, i havent seen the danders stuff yet
lusty grotto
coarse bay
Lmao
lusty grotto
the copyright claim came after that
undone beacon
LOL
coarse bay
The era of xxxui wars
undone beacon
simply install nothing and play as papa blizzard intended
undone beacon
they should've left ALL addons deadge then theres no drama no controversy just peace and love
lusty grotto
and then fuck neph, danders, and whoever else
undone beacon
I thought charging money for addon content was against the blizz EULA anyways
coarse bay
Theyve been getting around it for a long time by selling profiles
But a whole addon was against the rules, according to what i knew too
If his is just a bunch of addons brought together in his custom way, then maybe he does it the same way
lusty grotto
profiles are loophole'd
and there's some patreon/nitro shady shit with Bart's shit
for the entire last expansion
🤷♂️
coarse bay
Like a bunch of streamers sold their stuff, and atrocityUI. Weakauras kinda covered for them
lusty grotto
just now in Naowh's stream
LOL
bros just keep going
LOL
fucking wild, cause my brother asks me to install Quazii shit, and we've never dropped money on it
unless its a Midnight thing... that's just false
coarse bay
Apparently his new addon/ui is patreon only, but i haven’t verified
lusty grotto
afaik he only does early releases on patreon, but you can get it after 2 or 3 days
for literally free, on his website
drowsy comet
quazii midnight UI is free I think, from what I saw. Could be wrong tho but yea this whole UI thing is just pathetic lulz
drowsy comet
saw people saying that nephUI is like 90% just AI lol, but idc
lusty grotto
apparently both danders and his are vibe coded to hell
orchid mural
praise jesus. Actionbarsenhanced was the addon that let me easily change colours.
drowsy comet
i personally dont use any UI addons tho, just actual functioning ones
jagged pier
theres no shot u prefer that over icons
orchid mural
i likely will take the words out and use the icon, but i have a visual handicap that using coloured bars really helps
jagged pier
thats fair
orchid mural
id remove both icon and name if i could
lusty grotto
i heavily dislike it
i like a bar for SB thats it
and my plan is just to use the default WoW one
since i lost my own WA
bit honestly the 2nd screenie looks better imo
jagged pier
goated
lusty grotto
either way thats very personal so just use whatever works for you
i just prefer bars cause they are easier to track peripherally, but i only do it for SB
orchid mural
yeah. for me i've been using those colour of bars since 2015 .... so... possible my handicap is that i'm old?
jade pulsar
u guys have a good way to track shield block uptime and ignore pain?
lusty grotto
i dont think its age
you can get used to icons
like all my other characters have only icons and i got used to it
jagged pier
u guys have a good way to track shield block uptime and ignore pain?
scroll up
shut summit
i dont think its age
lusty grotto
👴
orchid mural
alright... next question.
Trinket tracking. anyone have something for this? Arc UI had a trinket tracker, an icon of your trinket that you could move around, but i hated basically everything else of the addon.
coarse bay
Arcui is the only one i know of, you can try other cdm/ui addons or use arcui for just that
lusty grotto
neph ui does it too
jagged pier
wonder how they done that as u cant see buffs
lusty grotto
its simpler
jagged pier
lusty grotto
there are also work arounds where it reads the tooltip and just does a timer based on it
as in, its not reading the combat state
it will break if there's any CDR involved
but i'd imagine that blizz wont be designing CDR on trinkets in the foreseable future
lusty grotto
you could be right
ionic fern
Please tell me there is a way to get these bars showing from top to bottom not the other way around.
lusty grotto
jagged pier
undone beacon
jagged pier
another bites the dust
undone beacon
I'll bite ur dust
jagged pier
hidden kindle
am I missing something or is it not possible to track revenge proc in CDM? o,o
lusty grotto
no idea, but there's no reason to track it anyway
ionic fern
Why would you track revenge procs?
hidden kindle
could be nice to know if its gonna be free 😅
hidden kindle
I mean they let you track a bunch of stuff that doesnt matter 🤷♂️
trail marten
Did they remove the little yellow shit stain that lets you see you got free revenge?
jagged pier
true u would have to ask bliz why the chose what
lusty grotto
I mean they let you track a bunch of stuff that doesnt matter 🤷♂️
yeah but having things you dont need on screen is just clutter
and adds to cognitive load
i personally recommend not hoarding UI elements
its entirely up to you though
if you find a way to do it
lusty grotto
coarse bay
ionic fern
Wait, i can't hide ACtion bar 1?
coarse bay
Lmao
lusty grotto
hide dn
lusty grotto
coarse bay
Surely there’s an addon for that feature 
lusty grotto
hidden kindle
RegisterAttributeDriver(MainActionBar, "state-visibility", "hide")
this is what u need but has to be some form of addon unless u want to run it every time u log in
jagged pier
Wait, i can't hide ACtion bar 1?
bartender should allow u
lusty grotto
speaking of which
when AMD remakes the 5000x3d im buying one
they are crazy scarce and expensive as fuck
right now
jagged pier
Nim is old if he can buy new computer parts
lusty grotto
i cant be arsed to fucking buy a new cpu that needs ddr5
yeah the good thing about the 5 series is it uses ddr4
i have a 5900x for now so
tribal wharf
ya, i got pretty much everything i could ever want besides a couple things
slutty desk as someone here put it
lusty grotto
just a lil uppy to an x3d
lusty grotto
yeah thats what i want to prevent lmao
tribal wharf
but, my plan is whatever higher end gpu i get might be 9070 or xt i think, dunno
ionic fern
bartender should allow u
Yah, just downloaded it.
solid sun
I think I’m priced out of gaming
lusty grotto
when your pc dies, you buy a steam machine or an xbox/ps5
🙂
and hope for the best
solid sun
I am quite resolute
lusty grotto
yogi you dont even play modern games, why do you even need a gpu lmao
shit you play runs on a phone
solid sun
True
tribal wharf
battlefield
lusty grotto
i mean i play bf6 just fine with a 5900x and a 3070ti
tribal wharf
lga is cursed cpu format
thats all i have to say
do not press me on this
rage bar max when think about LGA
tribal wharf
but ya, its literally, desk, newer gpu, any type of hard drive or storage
lusty grotto
and the ssd curse
solid sun
Idk shit is crazy
lusty grotto
blame AI
tribal wharf
and then i never need any computer thing ever again
jagged pier
Parts scarcity?
its expensive anyway
lusty grotto
im waiting until the from soft game and the new metroid releases before i buy a switch 2 personally
duskbloods i mean
jagged pier
im just not buying it can justify it anymore
lusty grotto
probably will bite my ass because prices will be fucked by then
tribal wharf
but, i am idiot as you know
so i will be just say fuck it and have someone else do the build due to shit with cpu
i dont want to try that risk
"it was the question i kept asking myself, maybe skyhold was right, i WAS the stooge, the bad joke everyone got but me"
solid sun
im just not buying it can justify it anymore
I cant justify any of these prices for electronics
jagged pier
well true
solid sun
Gonna end up forcing me to live in the mountains away from society
jagged pier
i pray everyday my pc doesnt explode
tribal wharf
you see
thats just it
the one i built DOES NOT explode
so why build new
i try to build, it does
lusty grotto
pray for the bubbles to burst instead
jagged pier
wont fix anything
they are already gunna get a bail out
too much invested in not only data centers
but all the infostructure around it
solid sun
I always told myself that I’d never stop being a gamer. Was a hobby I’m passionate about and I’ll do it forever
Little did I know AI or cryptocurrency or whatever would skyrocket prices and force me out
lusty grotto
yeah maybe youre right Jakey
solid sun
All this AI stuff kills me
Didn’t everyone watch Terminator and I, Robot
This is how we get dead
strong forum
good
mighty valley
Both those franchises taught us that there can always be a nice robot
jagged pier
the thing is at some point, it will do what everyone says, but when thats gunna be we dunno
lusty grotto
AI is a good thing, but there's 0 justification for the massive investment, data center, power consumption, and just fucking slapping in EVERYWHERE that they are doing
mighty valley
well i guess i robot wasn't a franchise
jagged pier
AI is a good thing, but there's 0 justification for the massive investment, data...
dis
mighty valley
yeah I think "AI" is way too fucking broad a label, some of the stuff called AI is good, some of it is fucking awful
shrewd grove
Most of the shit being labeled as AI isn't even AI
mighty valley
basically all the applications where it pretends to be a person that's speaking to you are the bad ones
coarse bay
yeah I think "AI" is way too fucking broad a label, some of the stuff called AI ...
Agreed, a lot of it is just a bunch of “if, then” statements
coarse bay
But its a trendy word and investors like trends. So keep pushing trends and making it look like big waves are being worked on, and throw more money around, and you get more investments
mighty valley
grok, undress nimchip
lusty grotto
fuck you ruined the joke i was gonna make
"i accidentally got a picture of Rhino naked"
mighty valley
ah shit grok, why are you speculating on nimchip's jewishness, that's not what i asked for
solid sun
You should sue
shrewd grove
"i accidentally got a picture of Rhino naked"
And yet you didn't post it here?
Selfish...
lusty grotto
ah shit grok, why are you speculating on nimchip's jewishness, that's not what i...
alright that was a good one
did you get some trivia from the Apartheid with it
mighty valley
it's a sign of a good technology when there's a big dial labeled "nazi" that you have to fine tune every once in a while
solid sun
Do you think if Greenland got purchased it would be renamed Redwhiteandblueland
lusty grotto
well to the model specifically
lusty grotto
my go to is geminii
mighty valley
i'm a grumpy old man who uses none of it
toxic pewter
most ai seem left leaning to me
lusty grotto
well technically if youre good with google, you dont need the chatbot
mighty valley
i use a search engine and i skip the ai overview immediately
lusty grotto
and let me tell you ive seen some horror stories with chatbots
mighty valley
llms are just the collective output of the human race melted down into slurry
lusty grotto
so much that if we use agents i tell my team to not auto commit the work it does
mighty valley
and you can ask for a bowl of the slurry with a specified flavor
tribal wharf
i dunno man
toxic pewter
im just happy apple is moving to use gemini for siri
tribal wharf
or the long bow or taming horses or making a car
lusty grotto
why didnt you just say like the invention of the internet
toxic pewter
cuz i am tired of siri sucking ass
mighty valley
yogi you've pasted so much factually incorrect ai garbage in here
tribal wharf
i feel like ppl gunna be angry at it for a while and then its common plac e
toxic pewter
lol
lusty grotto
it is already common place
people are angry because of the reasons i mentioned
not because it exists
mighty valley
you can tell it's just like the invention of the car because they give it away for free and beg us to use it every day
toxic pewter
well we now live in a time w here fact and fiction are almost impossible to ddecipher
and AI is not helping
with that issue
lusty grotto
you can tell it's just like the invention of the car because they give it away f...
based
toxic pewter
its actually making it worse
solid sun
you can tell it's just like the invention of the car because they give it away f...
Well Elon invented ecars and ai
mighty valley
apb you'd have an easier time deciphering fact from fiction if you didn't use grok
solid sun
So that checks out
toxic pewter
apb you'd have an easier time deciphering fact from fiction if you didn't use gr...
lol wut why
lusty grotto
because like we just mentioned
toxic pewter
i support elon
mighty valley
like you just said, ai is not helping people understand the world around them. and yet you use it daily
toxic pewter
yeah why not
lusty grotto
ok im out
mighty valley
have you watched him for more than five seconds
toxic pewter
hmmm
solid sun
I try not to
round pendant
LOL
jagged pier
guys dont start
round pendant
that's bait
toxic pewter
I am on X all day
round pendant
God I love this chat
toxic pewter
not bait
lusty grotto
yeah im not gonna answer that
toxic pewter
lol
lusty grotto
we could go into a political rabbit hole
toxic pewter
he isnt even that n word everyone throwing aaroundd these days
lusty grotto
i feel like harrow's comment is enough
solid sun
apb you’re playing a dangerous game with Harrow
toxic pewter
lusty grotto
i just have to ask
why do you support a billionaire
do you think he needs your support
solid sun
Listen wait
lusty grotto
ok ok
solid sun
We’re both from the same city stop making me look bad
toxic pewter
how you guys like the pre patch
lusty grotto
so what about that realm restart thats coming up
jagged pier
endeavours 
toxic pewter
i am doing al lthe pvp endeavors for my guild
solid sun
I love spicy ketchup
toxic pewter
meet me at whataburger
il be the guy with the honey bbq chicken strip sandwich and a patty melt
cunning bane
I wish they'd make colossus good again. It's not even mentioned in wowhead's guide for pre-patch lol
coarse bay
I wish they'd make colossus good again. It's not even mentioned in wowhead's gui...
Colossus will likely be the play, but we are low level and in prepatch tuning
jagged pier
doesnt mention it at all?
cunning bane
Not mentioned at least not in here https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/midnight-pre-patch
cunning bane
Colossus will likely be the play, but we are low level and in prepatch tuning
Ok, I hope this is the case.
lusty grotto
The only reason MT was ahead was the tier set anyway, both were close without it
And thats gone
Until they make a busted tier for only one of the hero trees, it's safe to say they'll try to keep them within the same amount of throuput
shrewd grove
Do we know if the sets will be spec specific or hero tree specific this tier?
shrewd grove
True? Lame
mighty valley
it usually makes sense to me when they've added a bunch of new spec stuff to play with
talents in df, hero specs in tww
they just haven't added as much this time
but it has been a bigger overhaul in general so having one less variable in tier sets seems smart i guess
shrewd grove
I mean, given the stat squish alongside the massive pruning of abilities, I get it
fallow fern
I noticed on wowhead the M+ talents take battlefield commander.. then don't take rallying or berserker.. is this just for the 3% AP on battle shout? 🤔 or would it be better spen in barbaric training or spear?
jagged pier
its 3% overall damage there basically is nothing better than that
shrewd grove
Got kicked from a heroic raid on my ilvl 103 bear. Started my own group and solo tanked everything until Dimensius, where a DK swapped to blood. Game is super weird balance right now lol
fallow fern
Unless another warrior in group 🤔
jagged pier
it only effects u
fallow fern
Oh..
jagged pier
fallow fern
Yes I see! Good point
mighty valley
been a long time since they've done a "one person in the raid needs to spec the raid buff"
would not expect to see it again
cerulean tusk
did they fix the overwrite of the AP shout of warrior vs warrior yet?
fallow fern
Yea i like that it's not the case!
toxic pewter
Wait so if another warrior without battlefield commander uses battle shout it overrides ‘my’ battle shout and I dont get the extra 3% ap? Is that what you’re talking about?
limber temple
Yea that was happening tonight
Infact in most cases if someone with 3% shouts, and someone with lesser shouts, it just removes battleshout entirely 😂😂
coarse bay
Intended feature by blizzard to reduce the amount of warriors allowed in raid to 1
shut folio
whats up warriors. were the builds updated yet?
anger management being a general skill fucks w me
id love to have battlefield commander for more warrior utility but not having anger management sucks
coarse bay
Builds on the guides are indeed up to date
lusty grotto
id love to have battlefield commander for more **warrior utility** but not havin...
youll have points in midnight
no reason to stress over it now, its only the prepatch
shut folio
Builds on the guides are indeed up to date
tyty
oh interesting. you dont take field dressing.
(for now)
it seemed cool for stuff like pain and gain
coarse bay
just wanted to see what other ppl are doin
I havent even gotten to my warrior yet
Soon, surely
round cliff
is there a way to tell what's failing???
bugsack refuses to tell me
blizz refuses to tell me
i dont have an addon called Blizzard_UnitFrame 🥀
lusty grotto
export and reimport your blizzard CDM profile
or if youre using any CDM addon, just delete all of your CDM profiles in WoW's own UI (not in the addon)
round cliff
export and reimport your blizzard CDM profile
still getting roughly 10 errors per sec
round cliff
i dont have an addon called Blizzard_UnitFrame 🥀
this is from bugsack
lusty grotto
you need both addons
round cliff
i do have both
lusty grotto
ok gotcha
no idea maybe someone else can help
its just strange that you post one line
when usually there's a full stack trace
lusty grotto
update heal prediction
round cliff
no!
lusty grotto
its right there
CompactUnitFrame_UpdateHealPrediction
save your UI placement in a profile
export it
delete it
and import it back
round cliff
as in the edit mode profile?
lusty grotto
yes
that seemed to solve a lot of issues today for some people
also this aint the UI channel
so ask in #ui-addons-manager
if that doesnt work
round cliff
yea didnt
azure crag
I can't seem to get my talent build to stay
I put in all the correct talents, close my spell book, then they reshuffle as soon as I open it back up
Thankfully the spells themselves don't change, but it's kinda hard to read what talents I have and what they do when the game keeps shuffling them
lusty grotto
why are you putting your talents in
instead of just importing a profile
and im guessing by "closing my spell book" you mean closing your talents
also did you try applying them with the button at the bottom?
azure crag
Yes
Also, I put the talents in manually because...I dunno, I just did?
I didn't think that was a mistake
lusty grotto
if youre having to redo them it is
azure crag
Well I didn't count on the game undoing them when I closed my talents
lusty grotto
OK
coarse bay
Fwiw it seems that today blizzard has introduced new surprise features, including some bugs with talents and spells. Some spells are just disappearing from spellbook until relog, and apparently macroing doesnt work for all people
torn rover
So does prot use Rend at all now?
lusty grotto
we alwasy talented rend
torn rover
im running MT build aoe for dungeons rn
lusty grotto
since talents were reintroduced in DF
read the Thunderclap talent
but tl;dr you need it talented, you just don't bind it
lusty grotto
phalanx is the new thing to SS, but other than that there's nothing else
but you cant talent it atm
azure crag
Honestly, it feels like it mostly plays the same for me.
Save having a significantly worse UI
lusty grotto
yes thats accurate
outside of outburst only applying to SS and the removal of troar, seismic and IO, there was no change
and nothing changed gameplay-wise
round pendant
what's CR
coarse bay
Credit report
solid sun
Critical Role
vocal pewter
What's everyones second favorite tank spec? Or what do people find the most fun aside from prot war
lusty grotto
im partial to the M1 Abrams
round pendant
What's everyones second favorite tank spec? Or what do people find the most fun ...
paladin
wheat estuary
What's everyones second favorite tank spec? Or what do people find the most fun ...
Druid
tribal wharf
im partial to the M1 Abrams
i used to play the tanks game
this is in part why i have a warped sense of shield blocking :S
have to take into account things like, armor thickness, angle, caliber of shell, if its ap vs explosive,
its literal if they have tiny gun and you have huge armor it just bounces off
urban bane
im partial to the M1 Abrams
based
eternal glade
im partial to the M1 Abrams
Tonk best tank
eternal glade
Here, have an old one
eternal glade
My my tank skills were an irl “tank”, its that
tribal wharf
i have something like i think its like 150 tanks in world of tanks
and some that are tier 10
bunch of premiums
sinful copper
anyone have an addon to make my cursor brighter/more noticeable?
im old and i used cursortrail before and now i cant find my own cursor cuz it's gone
coarse bay
anyone have an addon to make my cursor brighter/more noticeable?
I use that and just make it bigger, and when right clicking it stays and glows blue, I think it has more options too
The one thing I took from Yoda's UI
clear crest
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/cursormod
this is a goat addon! been using it for a while now
serene wave
Is rend not autoapplied anymore>?
serene wave
cool
charred ivy
is wrecking throw smt we use now or?
jagged pier
yes
charred ivy
in what situations do we use or just for damage?
ionic fern
Well, it deals increased damage vs absorb shields, but you mainly use it as a ranged interrupt.
It's mainly picked due to Javelineer, which silences the enemy for 3 seconds if hit by it.
charred ivy
iah i see i se
pulsar wedge
Is rend not autoapplied anymore>?
it is
lapis jetty
i dislike this
lusty grotto
none of our recommendations
lapis jetty
ima be honest i looked at the guy again after i snagged it and realised hes one of the people abusing timewalking gear
lusty grotto
thats what it is
jagged pier
Not that u need shield spec right now
lapis jetty
i pulled it off wcl
ionic fern
i dislike this
MWahi recommended.
lusty grotto
lapis jetty
aight someone give me a non cringe build or tell me where theyre located
lusty grotto
damn right in my ego
ionic fern
😂
lusty grotto
yeah but i guess shield spec isnt needed atm
jagged pier
Depends what u doing tho u would run deep wounds in m+
I would just look at icy veins or wowhead talent section
lapis jetty
for real though who has a non ass build because this one dosnt even have rend
round pendant
Guides have different writers
jagged pier
I mean just go to.the talent tab
lusty grotto
those
jagged pier
Nomes builds are in there for both hero talents
lusty grotto
nah thats broken Jakey
i just checked
for some reason even though it is in that guide, the talents in the tree are incomplete
probably wowhead fuckery with the beta subdomain or something
lusty grotto
the prepatch cheat sheet talents work
at least clicking through them to go to the talent trees
but this doesnt
neat dune
the three on the wowhead prepatch cheat sheet are solid
why BrV for raid and then not spec into thunderlord?
might as well move it to bloodsurge
lusty grotto
same reason we didnt play TL as colossus this exp
its not a prio button for colossus
neat dune
but raid build is MT not Colossus
lusty grotto
let me check
hmm
kinda seems like a colossus build to me but yes youre right its MT
neat dune
i mean MT better anyways
neat dune
id rather drop shield spec and talent thunderlord (for MT raid) with how stat squish turned out, you dont rly need more def
lusty grotto
sure
neat dune
and if you go col, then id drop BrV and go bloodsurge
jagged pier
And colossus should be ahead on st but fights takes like a 1 min so really it doesnt matter
neat dune
Tl is down right useless on st now
i mean you benefit from it on every boss except fract imo for it to be worth
i mean actualy with pumper grp you dont get to see adds on almost any fight so yeah idk 🤔
probably doesnt even matter
lusty grotto
yeah probably
neat dune
maybe small SH optimisation but yeah.. guess you are right
lusty grotto
thats the best thing about prepatch, can try things before numbers and sims catch up
neat dune
yeah then we are at the mercy of the machines again 😄
serene wave
Is the m+ MT build on wow head good to use?
lusty grotto
in the prepatch guide, yes
lusty grotto
astral holly
Is shield slam doing 2x the dmg of execute per cast or are my eyes failing
astral holly
Average hit
This is the top dimmy log
and my logs are also similar
Execute is just way down there
lusty grotto
click the outburst button and filter it out
astral holly
