Especially overgeared healing is crazy chill
#protection
coarse bay
proper roost
if you play with friends u straight up dont have to heal outside of specific fights
and if you're overgeared those fights don't actually require you to manage cds correctly for a while
it rules
coarse bay
Yup, and excluding certain pulls this season, hpal is kinda crazy
proper roost
i think i'm just gonna wait til i'm 725 or so to push, should only be a week or so
jade hazel
I’m starting the push on my 728 mage tonight 
proper roost
to what io? title?
jade hazel
Hopefully
coarse bay
Do you have a team
jade hazel
Gotta pug a 5th
coarse bay
Ik a team that runs arcane, its a bit hard in some dungeons like fg
jade hazel
Should be able to find some pumper lone wolfs
proper roost
Nice gl
guess i should start guild search
r you gonna do that 2/8 mythic pug @coarse bay
if not nbd, I think i'm gonna plan on not getting mythic loot
coarse bay
Idk i wont be home for a few days still
proper roost
all good enjoy ur holiday
jade hazel
guess i should start guild search
r you gonna do that 2/8 mythic pug <@12759984...
Friend* search
proper roost
nah i gotta rat into a guild for some heroic loot 😔
err...
for the boots and healer trinket and that's it
unreal yarrow
Lots of heroic pugs, especially if you don't need 8/8
proper roost
heroic pugs have everyone who rolls on the boots
gotta get into established group that is 20 weeks in so i can rat them to myself
cerulean tusk
Why not just rat yourself a pair of mythic boots then?
coarse bay
Idk do guilds still do hero? Or even play?
cerulean tusk
red ferry
Idk do guilds still do hero? Or even play?
You can join my guild
coarse bay
Can i
red ferry
yes
coarse bay
Is it active
jade hazel
Idk do guilds still do hero? Or even play?
Most guilds do hero what you mean
red ferry
sure
coarse bay
Most guilds do hero what you mean
I havent done hero as a guild since like week 2
proper roost
Why not just rat yourself a pair of mythic boots then?
well, that was the plan
but then this happened and I did not expect to suck so bad at ele 
red ferry
Hes not laughing at you
proper roost
(I got knocked off the platform on soulbinder)
cerulean tusk
What if I told you, most guilds are in fact not curved
coarse bay
Idk its the time of season where a lot of people quit, especially casuals. Aotc guild is full of casuals so id assume a ton of them quit
proper roost
Meh
You only need 10 warm bodies
cerulean tusk
AotC guilds, or normal->HC tier guilds, usually play till the end
coarse bay
Those guilds need more than 10 bodies
jade hazel
We just think everyone does CE and +18s. Vast, vast majority of players are barely aotc and barely 3k. Class discord ppl have perceptions fucked up cause we’re usually gamer gamers.
red ferry
i guaruntee you 10 warm bodies will feel like soloing a fight
proper roost
the ideal situation for me unironically would be to rat into a 6/8M guild that isn't extending, get the loot, the guild falls apart
that would fucking rule
cerulean tusk
We just think everyone does CE and +18s. Vast, vast majority of players are bare...
We are the top 10% dividing ourselves into another set of 1 and 99%
proper roost
not possible tho i think especially with those dogshit logs 💀
jade hazel
AotC guilds, or normal->HC tier guilds, usually play till the end
Yup. Sister guild is still progging Dimmy heroic.
coarse bay
We just think everyone does CE and +18s. Vast, vast majority of players are bare...
No im aware that the “top” end is the minority by a lot. Ive been in casual guilds and they all simmer out half way through season from experience
Like ik that anyone on discord isnt average
cerulean tusk
well, that was the plan
but then this happened and I did not expect to suck so ...
Sort by bracket, show it then
jade hazel
That sucks. If you’re a casual guild, you should have a standard set as casual.
red ferry
Like ik that anyone on discord isnt average
Idk
coarse bay
Idk
Youre already above average whether u agree or not
The average gamer doesnt m+ or raid
undone beacon
im pretty average in every aspect uwu
jade hazel
People forgot how to have fun. I love my guild and the fact most of them are 20 yrs older than me and have grandkids lmao
cerulean tusk
By the fact that you are on this discord, shows you have more interest than 99% of players :P
red ferry
im pretty average in every aspect uwu
thats not what she said
undone beacon
is that good or bad
jade hazel
im pretty average in every aspect uwu
Stfu pash you are NOT average lmao
red ferry
By the fact that you are on this discord, shows you have more interest than 99% ...
not anymore xdd
proper roost
can you even change it to ilvl bracket on the primary page
idk it's literally been 2 years since i looked at wcl character page
coarse bay
Yes
jade hazel
You’re a goat Pash
coarse bay
Top right
cerulean tusk
Cammy a bracket lover
coarse bay
Key icon
proper roost
my ilvl parse is actually lower because I have a pure healer trinket on LOL
red ferry
can you even change it to ilvl bracket on the primary page
idk it's literally b...
Yes
Top right
proper roost
so my ilvl is incredibly inflated for my dps
jade hazel
I’m trying to distract myself from taking down Christmas decorations 
proper roost
i'm 715 rn, one more week and i'm 725 
just need to remember to grab a dps trinket
warm plinth
Dps trinket? For heals?!
red ferry
Was it keybinds
Yes but they have a different flavor of autism than me
They keybind every class seperately
Eegads
undone beacon
You’re a goat Pash
warm plinth
What 12s do you still need @proper roost
proper roost
No I am trying to get into a guild as ele, but I have a pure healing trinket on so my ilvl is inflated for the dps i'm doing
my ilvl parse is lower than my overall parse
which is sad as hell lmao
proper roost
Only ara-kara and the 2 tazavesh keys
ara-kara is cursed (literally 2 keys bricked cuz of d/c right before key finish smh)
tazavesh is easy i think just no pugs want to do them
jade hazel
AK should be free
warm plinth
I can see what key my hunter has after work. War has eco
jade hazel
But people make it far harder than it needs to be
proper roost
👍
proper roost
I should watch video for AK 3rd boss
I do not know how to dodge burrow charge efficiently
warm plinth
Stand at range to bait and then just use gust of wind or wolfie form to dodge
jade hazel
I only play my war once a week now anyway 
proper roost
keyge
warm plinth
Skyhold key group?!
proper roost
Stand at range to bait and then just use gust of wind or wolfie form to dodge
I feel like this can't be optimal because it makes mdps lose giga uptime
from the boss charging across the fkin room
warm plinth
You can't dodge it if youre close
jade hazel
I’m down, can bring Mage for hero if needed
red ferry
Skyhold key group?!
i would not recommend that
proper roost
i'm playing rsham, it's fine
warm plinth
Why is that
red ferry
dont worry about it
warm plinth
Then why the fuck did you say anything
jade hazel
i would not recommend that
red ferry
dont worry about it
warm plinth
Dawnbreaker is pretty chill for everyone BUT the healer so
cerulean tusk
Skyhold keygroups are best groups
warm plinth
For sure
proper roost
Literally had to spam HS the last guy i had in a 13
proper roost
through the spider guy in the chapel that does the big fear smash
warm plinth
@chilly brook was there i believe. Idk if he's the right griff
I lose track of name changes
warm plinth
You guys know what time you'll be around this evening @proper roost @jade hazel ?
proper roost
after 6 est give or take 15, should be available til rest of night
warm plinth
Ok I'll be around well before then so just ping me when you're ready. Hopefully hunter will get 1 of the 3 keys
proper roost
👍
warm plinth
I'll be home starting around 3:15 est today. And I already binged the new stranger things episodes so I'm good
jade hazel
@undone beacon come tank for us
jade hazel
I'll be home starting around 3:15 est today. And I already binged the new stran...
Saaaaame
proper roost
my boss told me i had work today 5 minutes before i left on wednesday
warm plinth
Gross
proper roost
It ruled
jade hazel
I cried last night idc
proper roost
And then when he saw my expression instantly go 😠 he was like
jade hazel
Stranger Things hits different
proper roost
"I mean, you don't HAVE to come." but in that specific manager voice where it was like
warm plinth
I'm hyped for the finale. Wish there was people here to go with
jade hazel
if i don't come, i'm going to be dead on monday
I told my wife this last night
warm plinth
I've been fortunate that I've never worked somewhere without a set schedule
warm plinth
Are you going to the theater for the finale @jade hazel ?
jade hazel
Hell yeah
I saw the Spider Man multiverse in theaters the second one by Netflix and it was the best movie I’ve ever seen in theaters
warm plinth
I don't know if I will. Feels weird to go by myself lol.
jade hazel
So I know Netflix knows how to produce it well for a theater
warm plinth
You don't live in Kansas city by chance do you lol
jade hazel
Nah man there’s going to be so many other stranger things nerds there and everyone’s going to be crying
It’s going to be a moment
proper roost
it rules to go to the theater by yourself imo
warm plinth
Yeah my friend has pool league that night or I know he'd go
undone beacon
<@165255621468356608> come tank for us
I just went to get lunch but if there’s a group later I’m happy to help
proper roost
Just buy some giga overpriced popcorn and chill, it's a good meditative time
jade hazel
Yaaaaas
warm plinth
I just went to get lunch but if there’s a group later I’m happy to help
Looks like we'll all be around about 7 est
proper roost
I should go for knives out 🤔
i would go to the movies with u ghash 😔 the best part is post-movie waffle house where u yap about movie
this is a law and tradition. i don't make the rules
warm plinth
No one lives here it's ok
undone beacon
moving to a tent in ghash's backyard
proper roost
midwestern ass
warm plinth
Ikr
undone beacon
Looks like we'll all be around about 7 est
Wicked, I can tank or dps but fair warning im a little rusty
warm plinth
Kanga made me tank a 12 priory when I haven't done a non remix key on any character in like 2 months, so I get it
And by made me I mean she was like hey wanna tank this and I said ok
undone beacon
And by made me I mean she was like hey wanna tank this and I said ok
forced, coerced, blackmailed even
warm plinth
I have a strong distrust of pugs so I'm very much the tank who does as big/fast of pulls as I think they can handle
And no more
proper roost
for me this is the start of the season so i still need to limit test every pull
and low keys so not stressed yet
It's ok wind rush totem rushing the tank isn't that toxic
it's only for the knowers
warm plinth
I never really push because I have imposter syndrome. My highest keys are like 14s that I did incidentally
proper roost
that's why healing owns. people just tell you to come to keys and then you just passively accrue io
warm plinth
That's why my hunter's score is higher XD
proper roost
and then you eventually hard brick a key and they never ask you to come again
but they keep u on friendslist... so i have like 10 high io key people rn that i can't talk to
warm plinth
Awkward
proper roost
the desperation ex call angle
proper roost
yes
warm plinth
Gamers
proper roost
thinking on it, it is really funny that healer pressing wrt/stampeding roar/etc is like
a universal signal for tank to go faster
warm plinth
Ngl didn't even notice you used it
proper roost
it's always really funny to see when I drop a WRT on a tank they're like "oh shit i could just keep going"
that's what keeps it non toxic, it's low key
if I drop a WRT on a bad tank they dont even know what it means
warm plinth
I was locked in making sure I wasn't falling over to shit. Felt bad for the dk on that one pull though. I had full blown stroke trying to target the mob he peeled and couldn't XD
proper roost
NOT THAT I'M SAYING UR A BAD TANK
you just hadn't done keys in 2 months
u would recognize it if you weren't rusty
warm plinth
OH SHIT THERE IT IS
proper roost
revealed power level too early fuCK
coarse bay
Its crazy how fast rust builds up in this game
warm plinth
Nah I would have noticed for sure normally lol. I did turn my addons back on for that though. Fortunately the base ui setup didn't really do anything to my normal ui
coarse bay
It feels foreign to play
warm plinth
Just had to reverse some action bars
proper roost
does it idk. maybe my brain is broken
I logged onto my warrior for like 2 minutes to show off some heroic leap stuff and it was just locked in
warm plinth
The muscle memory sticks with me but it's more just the constant looking at different pieces of information I have to readjust to.
proper roost
I did forget how to like. look at omnicc and shit
but that comes back pretty quickly. also idk if i'll enable omnicc or not rn
Probably have to for 3.5
coarse bay
Just a little bit of lost muscle memory, i had to actually think for things
proper roost
if i had the same exact ui setup as when i quit, i'd be giga locked in
i just had to redo my entire ui and it's really thrown together atm
warm plinth
I did undersend execute in that run though tbh. Only did like 5.2 overall
undone beacon
I never really push because I have imposter syndrome. My highest keys are like ...
I feel that, relatable
proper roost
up until last night I had all combat text EXCEPT outgoing healing turned off
which is the most useless shit ever 
for the last 2 weeks i've been like "wow i need to remember to enable combat text for incomign damage so i know wtf is hitting me"
warm plinth
I don't have combat text for incoming damage. I don't think i even knew that was a thing
proper roost
uh
useless for tanks imo (i have it on for ability dmg only on tanks)
rly useful for nontank i think
warm plinth
I have always just focused on hey this mechanic is gonna hurt so I press button
Like if I fail to press a defensive or a health potion for a mechanic it's because all that shit is on cd XD
proper roost
Really good while you're learning keys as a healer/dps to know whether you're getting meleed or just a random shoot I think
coarse bay
I dont have any numbers on
left scarab
the hate i recieve for playing tank makes me quit the game.
Any similar experiences?
M+ is hella toxic it seems.
coarse bay
the hate i recieve for playing tank makes me quit the game.
Any similar experien...
Tanks are easy to blame and mistakes are most noticeable
warm plinth
Hmm, not really. I've had maybe 2 or 3 times since M+ came out in Legion that someone has said something rude to me
In s1 or s2 (can't remember), someone said I was the worst tank they'd ever seen in Cinderbrew. First time ever doing the dungeon and my friend made me do it on +12 so I had no idea what I was doing
undone beacon
its usually a "tank doesnt know what they're doing" from a dps who is doing negative damage and ignoring every mechanic so, meh
The nice thing is that as a tank, you can leave a key and get into a new one super fast
left scarab
Yesterday in a Dawnbreaker +12 after the first miniboss i wanted to do the pack in the cathedral and my whole group abandoned me, flying to the 3rd miniboss and i died alone at that pack.
The whole group flamed me.
proper roost
In s1 or s2 (can't remember), someone said I was the worst tank they'd ever seen...
thats fucking rough
undone beacon
lmao
unreal yarrow
It happens. I got flamed in a beta key the other day for not knowing the pulls.
proper roost
Yesterday in a Dawnbreaker +12 after the first miniboss i wanted to do the pack ...
no jokes, just ignore chat for everything in pug keys
it's kinda hard cuz u have to learn to tune things out selectively; if someone says "brb wait" you should legit wait but if anyone is trying to say any criticism, you can read it after the key
warm plinth
Or even returning dungeons because not everyone played in x expansion
proper roost
It's rly hard to learn this skill but its super useful in wow imo
warm plinth
The other two i can think of are in a freehold in dragonflight, a guy asked what the fuck the tank (me) was doing. I genuinely have no idea what his issue was so I just responded I'm doing your fucking mother and moved on. We timed it.
proper roost
Just remember that if you're seeking to self improve you're already top percentile of tanks and if you're doing 12s you are in like top 15ish% of entire M+ population? like you're doing fine, people typically just don't know what they're talking about
warm plinth
And then in a vault in legion, first time bursting existed, I got blamed for the group dying to a pack of kobolds that bursted (not sure how that was something I could do anything about). That is also the only key I have ever left without someone else leaving first.
But I agree with Kanga. If it's constructive I'll listen to it. If it's just rudeness I'm ignoring it and moving on (or making a sarcastic reply and moving on)
left scarab
Just remember that if you're seeking to self improve you're already top percenti...
recently it seems like every dps has a better route in mind and my one is absolutely shit (i timed every key as 12 and eco dome as 14) and they just want to use me as a puppet.
I never had any issues with players pushing my Frost DK to 3k rating but on warrior it feels like heavy duty to even come online and play.
proper roost
ya dps/healer you don't really cop that much
But I mean, that's the flip side. As tank you have the highest agency in keys
what helped me when I was doing initial pushes in previous seasons as tank is to just actively add any healers that i thought weren't throwing
if you're just playing with ONE other person, even if you're not on comms, it's a big morale boost imo
it is kinda scary/awkward to dm people after a key and say "hey, i do a lot more keys, wanna add me for future?" but if they ignore you w/e
and if they dont, then you can just dm them in future and it can feel better to queue with someone 👍
(if you actually want to push high, this is a really good skill to practice being awkward at now!)
i think it's safe to say literally every tank has felt this tho. It's a big responsibility and so you get the flame if people think you mess that responsibility up, even if you didn't
left scarab
yeah i should probably do that.
But since my encounters with these players (i never abandoned that much keys before or even just left them) im performing so much worse.
Pushing everything up to 12 worked like a charm but now i feel like my performance went down by like 70% and i constantly feel like alt f4'ing the game because it makes me feel like shit
coarse bay
recently it seems like every dps has a better route in mind and my one is absolu...
It’s end of expac and a lot of the people youre probably playing with have much more ego than skill
proper roost
yeah rn anyone who's doing anything more than weekly vault is like navigating massive landmine field of ego
left scarab
its my first time tanking in m+ ever. doing it for like 1,5 weeks now and i thought i was doing fine lol
coarse bay
You probably are
proper roost
If you're already at 3k io after 2 weeks that's really good!
like I said, that's top 15% of m+ population
But yea at end of season you won't really get chill people typically in 13s and stuff.
warm plinth
if you're just playing with ONE other person, even if you're not on comms, it's ...
This is real af. Though I wish Kanga would speak to me instead she just drops WRT on me in a toxic fashion.
proper roost
Adding people really helps though I guarantee
coarse bay
You optimally want to m+ from earlier on, because then youre playing/progressing with other people that are trying to progress. Most people still low io right now that arent alts are probably hard stuck
proper roost
💀 toxic rush totem
left scarab
You optimally want to m+ from earlier on, because then youre playing/progressing...
ye thats probably true.
Last time i played was tww s1 and now i came back to the game because my buddy talked me into it.
Hooked me with legion remix and now im farming m+ on 2 chars again >.>
proper roost
no idea, i'm actively avoiding midnight class change info
i don't care about balance til like week of release
i'll just level whatever is looking fotm for heals 
as long as it's not prevoker
coarse bay
ye thats probably true.
Last time i played was tww s1 and now i came back to the...
Unfortunately ever since like turbo boost, the low-mid m+ player base has been less fun to be around
warm plinth
i don't care about balance til like week of release
i'll just level whatever is ...
Not prevoker is based af
I wish the community had just collectively decided to never play it when it came out until they made it 40yd
left scarab
Unfortunately ever since like turbo boost, the low-mid m+ player base has been l...
after pushing my fdk to 3k i really bruteforced getting out of the low-key area asap with the warrior lol.
It's just pure suffering lol
warm plinth
Same here. They are awkward/clunky
proper roost
It's the same as channeled spells, which are also awkward especially if your ping spikes
warm plinth
At least most channeled spells have that small window at the end where you won't lose a tick though. Makes it slightly better.
proper roost
after pushing my fdk to 3k i really bruteforced getting out of the low-key area ...
ehh, problem is this late in the season, 13-14s etc are really low too and have similarly poor attitude people
No idea where it'd get better but it's more of a late season problem than a specific key range problem imo
sharp merlin
It doesn't
coarse bay
The problem goes all the way up into title
sharp merlin
Even at 19/20 keys, it's hell
left scarab
highest i did was the 14 eco.
im not confident enough yet to go higher lol
proper roost
I think most people end up quitting M+ pushing because they don't find teams
warm plinth
Not a bad one to try higher though. Eco is pretty chill, although the teleporting mobs can suck my ass
proper roost
or, rather, what I mean is plenty of people who have the ability and desire to push quite high
sharp merlin
I quit M+ and I'm not sure if I can be bothered coming back for Midnight after hitting 19 resil cause I've come to realise the time sink just isn't worth it
proper roost
quit cuz no team and people without teams end up having way more of a laissez faire attitude
sharp merlin
You spend a huge amount of time putting together a key
and then it fails in first pull
people whisper you offering gold for just an attempt
left scarab
and then it fails in first pull
ara kara trauma for me
warm plinth
The whole note bullshit is easily enough of a reason for them to remove resil keys ngl.
proper roost
Anyway, I would just try to remember why you wanted to tank on your warrior to begin with, what drew you to it
and try to remember that feeling when you queue
coarse bay
I quit M+ and I'm not sure if I can be bothered coming back for Midnight after h...
You have tank privilege when it comes to forming/joining teams though, why pug?
proper roost
and add ppl you think aren't absolute shitters
they can be SORTA bad it's ok!!
sharp merlin
You will always have keen bean friends who just aren't good enough at a certain level, so you either play with absolute no life degens who are just socially inept
jade hazel
I mean, we’ll have rewards for doing +20 in midnight so there will be an incentive there. Idk how comparable midnights +20s to tww +20s though. Because DFs +20s are our like what? +12s now?
sharp merlin
You have tank privilege when it comes to forming/joining teams though, why pug?
Cause you're only as good to someone as long as there's score for them
There's no friends in high keys
proper roost
agree tbh
coarse bay
True, but if youre grinding enough as a team, you stay the io option
warm plinth
I mean, we’ll have rewards for doing +20 in midnight so there will be an incenti...
That difference was only because they squished key scaling
sharp merlin
But that depends heavily if the team are all aligned on goals, which most of the times its not
proper roost
if my rsham gets high io again like in DF, people will start DMing me off my friends list, before that, i don't exist to them
just is what it is
sharp merlin
my 'team' just sat back and waited till I got the next resil key up, and then I'd spend hours getting them through my resil keys, no fucking thanks
coarse bay
Ya there’s all kinds of team drama and people moving on but pugging title just sounds so tilting
coarse bay
my 'team' just sat back and waited till I got the next resil key up, and then I'...
That isnt a team then lol
jade hazel
That difference was only because they squished key scaling
We’re getting a squish though so I thought it would coincide a bit
sharp merlin
their excuse was that they didn't want to 'dps queue'
warm plinth
It should stay relatively the same. It has through past squishes that didn't involve key scaling
coarse bay
their excuse was that they didn't want to 'dps queue'
Sounds like a group of people all pugging… instead of playing together
unreal yarrow
Why queue separately if you are a team? Isn't that the point?
sharp merlin
I think the term, 'teamwork' is kinda lost on majority of the community, people just want to be carried and not put the work in, sorry but that's been my experience from Legion to Now
proper roost
Anyway @left scarab one thing that rly helped me get over the "adding people is kinda awkward" thing is realizing that if anyone is even doing keys above 12, they are also dealing with the exact same bullshit as you, and they ALSO want to push keys to some io
Obviously not the tank anxiety, but good DPS all struggle with getting into keys, good healers struggle to find a consistent tank, etc. so the vast vast majority of people you reach out to will be keen on doing more keys
You might not be on the same page with where you land on io, but that's ok
unreal yarrow
You need better friends man
coarse bay
I mean there are actual m+ teams tho, u didnt have a team lol
sharp merlin
You need better friends man
true, it's why I don't play anymore
WoW also doesn't respect our times
coarse bay
U had friends that wanted to push and leech
sharp merlin
playing Fellowship opened my eyes to that
but then Fellowship is also filled with people who just want to be carried
jade hazel
I think the term, 'teamwork' is kinda lost on majority of the community, people ...
I really genuinely will never understand people will get in VC for the dumbest shit cs2 or among us but won’t hop in VC for wow
sharp merlin
But still, even in pugging the point remains, if you have a good key run, let's say you time an 18 Flood, people will just type 'gg' and leave
No one wants to communicate
no one wants to play together
jade hazel
The individualistic culture of wow is the only thing I really really have a distain for
proper roost
I mean there are actual m+ teams tho, u didnt have a team lol
i mean i think its a very salient point that you can have a team of friends all u want but to actually find a team of friends that 1) are all similar skill levels and 2) have the same time availability 3) have the same willingness to push 4) play the appropriate specs
It's actually a giga unicorn lol
red ferry
Yesterday in a Dawnbreaker +12 after the first miniboss i wanted to do the pack ...
idk i think the best mentality is to remember that at any given time you are the best player in the group
sharp merlin
i mean i think its a very salient point that you can have a team of friends all ...
Thank you!
red ferry
you will never not be the best player there
jade hazel
Wow should be like, the most team work community building game ever
proper roost
you just have to accept that pushing with friends is really difficult to pull off idk
sharp merlin
Wow should be like, the most team work community building game ever
It really isn't though
jade hazel
Should be though
coarse bay
i mean i think its a very salient point that you can have a team of friends all ...
Ya, unfortunately friends dont often make a good team, but a good team can become friends.
red ferry
yeah playing with friends is not something i would recommend
sharp merlin
Friends I tried to drag through 17 and up this season, and they tried both dps and healers
coarse bay
Finding/forming/joining a team isnt something you do in a friend circle unless theyre at your level, willing to reroll, and vibe
sharp merlin
and they just couldn't do it, they just couldn't do the content no matter how hard they tried
coarse bay
It’s a networking thing outside of normal circles
sharp merlin
They were either doing half the dmg or let people die in healing - and it's heartbreaking cause they're your friends, and you know they're letting the team down, and they know they're letting the team down
proper roost
in all honesty it sort of feels more like having work colleagues. i see the same friends pushing every season and there's a rotating list of friends in their teams. It's not like they're not friendly with their teams, or don't get along... it's that, like pom said, they're there for 1 thing
Pushing takes so much time even with a team that if you're no longer pushing you're not in the circle
sharp merlin
I remember a group of guys who were like, yeah let's do 19s, we blasted em, I had to go away for a weekend for work, I got replaced instantly
sharp merlin
Like I said, no friends in high keys sadly
red ferry
and thats totally fine
proper roost
I don't really think it's that different from a mythic raid team either idk. I have a few CE friends I could reach out to for a guild but as soon as I quit those are not necessarily friends anymore 
coarse bay
I mean as long as youre ahead of the title curve, tanks should be able to find plenty of teams
coarse bay
I don't really think it's that different from a mythic raid team either idk. I h...
I have so many people on my friends list that are just there lol
red ferry
ive made a few friends with those guys
warm plinth
I like to key with friends but haven't had a group that tried to push since like...shadowlands s2?
red ferry
and then people go "oh you know (x) so surely you must be good"
(i'm not)
(but it works)
sharp merlin
you say so Cammy, but go into any 'community' and it's just filled with recruitment posts of 'Aww hey guys, I'm here to push 16 and above!' and they haven't even got 3k yet
coarse bay
you say so Cammy, but go into any 'community' and it's just filled with recruitm...
It isnt through communities
proper roost
i don't think it's the biggest problem in the world either idk. Not a big issue that wow friends end up just being wow friends
red ferry
you say so Cammy, but go into any 'community' and it's just filled with recruitm...
first mistake is using community
coarse bay
Its word of mouth
sharp merlin
first mistake is using community
I don't, but for anyone who thinks it's a good idea LOL
warm plinth
you say so Cammy, but go into any 'community' and it's just filled with recruitm...
Or people post but don't reach out to other posts, or people post and then don't reply to replies. I think it's just exhausting for people to be the "leader" mostly
coarse bay
Like ik in the oce title scene, there’s blacklisted tanks that wont get taken because they run the most demonic routes
warm plinth
MPF isn't immune to that. It's the same shit.
sharp merlin
Everyone wants to do high keys, everyone thinks they watch Kira do a 19 Flood, and they go - YEAH I CAN DO THAT TOO! And don't realise how many hours upon hours, of just pulling after pulling, they did to finally time it
red ferry
MPF isn't immune to that. It's the same shit.
ah
nvm then lol
i think the ultimate strategy is just develop an ego
its the only way tbqh
warm plinth
How is that a strategy
coarse bay
Everyone wants to do high keys, everyone thinks they watch Kira do a 19 Flood, a...
I really dislike people bringing up kira mdi routes and tech as an argument for any normal m+ content
red ferry
How is that a strategy
makes it easier to do keys mentally
sharp merlin
Nah the ultimate strategy, is to become a WoW streamer, who doesn't clean their room, and turn into a radically political content creator 💀
coarse bay
As if they arent 5 of the best players in the world grinding 15+ hours a day to make that happen
red ferry
Nah the ultimate strategy, is to become a WoW streamer, who doesn't clean their ...
topical
warm plinth
I disagree. An ego just means you're never going to admit when you're the problem. That's literally the majority of pug players as it is.
proper roost
i don't think it's the biggest problem in the world either idk. Not a big issue ...
this is why nimchip and his friends will not play abiotic factor with me btw 😔
red ferry
I disagree. An ego just means you're never going to admit when you're the probl...
yeah but you only do it in the pugs
undone beacon
i don't think it's the biggest problem in the world either idk. Not a big issue ...
You will develop parasocial relationships with people in wow and you will like it
red ferry
because you have to know that puggers know nothing
sharp merlin
The amount of shit, I saw in high keys this season, I really wonder how people get out of bed in the morning sometimes LOL
warm plinth
Why do I have to know that? They're people just like me...
red ferry
are they
undone beacon
I had that happen with a pug healer I met last season and then she would get upset when I didn’t do keys with her
red ferry
i had that same mentality once
warm plinth
Are you serious?
proper roost
i can't unlearn seeing mythic raid guilds as just work colleagues tbh
undone beacon
Then she quit wow and blocked me on discord but gave me her email in case I ever wanted to talk
red ferry
i just dont listen to things people have to say in pugs
proper roost
Then she quit wow and blocked me on discord but gave me her email in case I ever...
based LOL
sharp merlin
Then she quit wow and blocked me on discord but gave me her email in case I ever...
jesus christ LOL
red ferry
Then she quit wow and blocked me on discord but gave me her email in case I ever...
oh i had a girlfriend like that once
xd
undone beacon
yeah it was a wild time
warm plinth
Then she quit wow and blocked me on discord but gave me her email in case I ever...
You're supposed to give anyone who talks to you all of your attention even if you barely know them pash
red ferry
what wedding
sharp merlin
lol, sorry gotta pug that day
red ferry
does pash have game
warm plinth
You’re all invited to my wedding
Can I dress in drag though?
proper roost
It's easy actually. You just log in after a 2 year break and start messaging everyone on your friendslist with io to carry you through keys
works 50% of the time every time
undone beacon
lol, sorry gotta pug that day
Damn, you have your priorities in order I’m proud
undone beacon
Can I dress in drag though?
This is a requirement
warm plinth
Sold
undone beacon
does pash have game
Yes
red ferry
hmm
warm plinth
I've never dressed in drag before but always wanted to do it at someone's wedding. Idk what that says about me.
sharp merlin
tbf, there is something amazing about dragging someone to 3k, and they're just so happy, it's a genuine chicken soup for the soul type of feeling
warm plinth
Wigs exist
coarse bay
It's easy actually. You just log in after a 2 year break and start messaging eve...
I have a problem where i wont reach out to them until ive gotten comparable in prog, and by the time i get somewhat respectable ive stopped caring. So i have people i havent spoken to since legion
warm plinth
And I'd have to wear one anyway as I'm bald af
coarse bay
Well m+
undone beacon
I've never dressed in drag before but always wanted to do it at someone's weddin...
If you are doing it for the shits and giggles with people you're close with then its funny and cool, if you're doing it to take away from the bride and groom's big day then thats not cool. Simple as
coarse bay
I had a team in legion for m+ and i dont even remember their names :3
proper roost
i have a guy on my bnet that I've had added since wotlk, raided with him in cata and got him rogue legendary daggers, we have not spoken since that guild dissolved in 1st tier of wod
coarse bay
Theyre still somewhere on my friends list
warm plinth
tbf, there is something amazing about dragging someone to 3k, and they're just s...
I love doing this for friends or random. Though I've had to hold friends off because they wanted me and others to try to skull drag multiple people at once
warm plinth
If you are doing it for the shits and giggles with people you're close with then...
Oh for sure. I would do it tastefully and with permission ofc
sharp merlin
I remember I had a 19 key or something, and this guy in my comm was desperate for an attempt, plays ret paladin, moaning on and on about how he never gets into keys - and I put the key up in LFG, and a 4k io player requested to join, and I was soooooo close to booting the ret paladin, and he was the one who caused the bricking LOL
warm plinth
Oof
coarse bay
Oh i have someone i went to highschool with that reached out to me for raiding because they stalked my logs
warm plinth
I'd like to stalk your logs
warm plinth
I was going to use the eyebrows emoji but forgot skyhold doesn't like fun
coarse bay
Skyhold is very anti fun ya
sharp merlin
I used to stalk a guy who used to moan about my tanking throughout the entire run, and everytime I look him up on rio, he's only just got resi 16
and I sit back, look out in the sun, and smile
warm plinth
I have resi 14s on my hunter, nbd
sullen trellis
hey guys looking for a good warrior race with good looks and good racials ? ? any thoughts ?? thinkging about going allaince
warm plinth
Hold autograph requests pls
sharp merlin
nah but this guy was a backseat tank, and then he said I was so bad, I should switch to Fury
proper roost
maybe nimchip will do keys with me again in s1 midnight
coarse bay
hey guys looking for a good warrior race with good looks and good racials ? ? an...
Looks is very much preference, i like velf. Only races with actual use is nelf for meld or one of the dwarves
red ferry
hey guys looking for a good warrior race with good looks and good racials ? ? an...
dwarf
warm plinth
Dwarf is the best but it's not important. Kul Tirans look the best imo
Their heritage armor is fire
red ferry
dwarf looks good
sharp merlin
Dwarf > everything
sullen trellis
thanks guys
warm plinth
My warrior has been several races
red ferry
sharp merlin
Don't listen to us tho
coarse bay
I changed my warr from dwarf to nelf last season for skips, and then they added the pot
sharp merlin
I actually love the Tauren, being a big moosey is hella cool
warm plinth
He was a vulpera, then a troll, then a mechagnome, then undead, and now dwarf
sullen trellis
what about a earthern ? ?
warm plinth
I bought a pack of faction changes years back and have just used them to meme change my warrior's race multiple times
Nah idc about the racial
I think dwarves look cool too. And they have 2nd best heritage
red ferry
earthen looks super cool but their buff is meh
i guess eating gems instead of food is good but like
sharp merlin
@sullen trellis just make a trial character for each one, run around and look at their animations
sullen trellis
thats an idea
red ferry
yeah i have to stoneform every time i do an ara kara
healers just cant do that dungeon
warm plinth
I had to use it in prio or I was dead. Kanga can't be trusted
warm plinth
Jkjk I felt giga safe on that boss
sharp merlin
stone form to avatar
proper roost
wait what do you cleanse on priory
warm plinth
First boss bleed
coarse bay
Did u go left side
proper roost
Oh yeah the divine judgment thing
sharp merlin
yeah, but it tickles compared to last season
warm plinth
Yeah I always go left
sharp merlin
I love taking black blood off me in Flood
warm plinth
No divine judgment is just magic
proper roost
I have no idea what divine judgment does tbh but i'm glad it has a castbar
coarse bay
Yeah I always go left
Left side is so bad
sharp merlin
that shit trucks
warm plinth
The main boss's tank mechanic is a bleed
proper roost
It feels sick as hell when u insta dispel
coarse bay
The main boss's tank mechanic is a bleed
It doesnt really hurt
warm plinth
It makes you take 25% more damage and hits like a truck
Divine judgment that is, not the bleed
coarse bay
The problem is when u go left side youre dealing with 2 busters
proper roost
insta dispelling the lockdown in streets of tazavesh feels dope as hell
same thing
has a castbar
rules.
warm plinth
Yeah I mean, left is just what I'm used to and is a bit more pug friendly on the boss. I can handle myself on the boss going left but I can't do all the kicks going right
sharp merlin
Yeah I mean, left is just what I'm used to and is a bit more pug friendly on the...
I mean.. that's a dps issue 😂 they gon learn
warm plinth
Plus it was only a 12 so it's kind of whatever
coarse bay
Left side has way more casters
warm plinth
I know
coarse bay
And they buffed the left side miniboss 🙁
warm plinth
But on a 12 they arent 1 shotting people and I had a good healer
coarse bay
I wish they kept them balanced and gave options
warm plinth
I've just never gone right before except once as dps. And not having played in 2 months I wasn't about to try something new XD
sharp merlin
anyway, back to Hogwarts, cya lads
warm plinth
Later skater
proper roost
30s kick cd is crazy
I'm actually pretty sure that's the same as rdruid kick
no wait, it's not. but rdruid kick requires a form shift which is annoying as fuck
warm plinth
Demo lock is the only 30 sec cd kick currently
proper roost
it probably won't even lock out for any longer than wind shear does rn, which is like 1s
warm plinth
I am pretty sure virtually every kick had at least 2 seconds added to its lockout
unreal yarrow
Yep
undone beacon
hey guys looking for a good warrior race with good looks and good racials ? ? an...
i race swapped to drac not too long ago, i like it
proper roost
i'm with cam on this one, I hate the scalies
undone beacon
I like the racial knockback with wing buffet, plus the glide for knockback cancel is pretty slick
I just got tired of heroic leap being disabled by goblin rocket jump racial
Plus now i can have a character thats a cutie pie, though goblins are already cutie pies
undone beacon
anyway, back to Hogwarts, cya lads
I'll miss u
You'll miss the birth of my firstborn
proper roost
Female goblins are great w how sassy they are, horrible mogs tho
And rocket jump has gotten power creeped like crazy by base mobility skills in the game
look at what they did to how op rocket jump was 😔
undone beacon
Female goblins are great w how sassy they are, horrible mogs tho
idk what you're talking about this is peak
proper roost
why would you do this. cover up hussy
My priest goblin has a Big Hat
there aren't enough Big Hat transmogs in the game
Tiny character Big Hat is the best trope
round pendant
Looking
proper roost
yeah of course yam would be into that. frickin br*tish
undone beacon
why would you do this. cover up hussy
goblin slutmogs are how i got my current gf okay
they're powerful
coarse bay
Goblins and gnomes are cool
When the race changing thingy gets placed ill keep stepping on it till gnome when im raiding
Gnome warrior is a vibe, especially fury warrior
proper roost
i despise transmogs on short characters lmao
coarse bay
Same
undone beacon
shes such a cutie tho
proper roost
Think the green has more to do with it than anything tbh
jade hazel
I love Goblins and I adored Undermine. Wish it wasn’t just a mid expac thing that will forever be forgotten about in the pits of Kezan
The raid was whatever but just the vibes and aesthetics were beyond cool to me
Have the soundtrack on my Spotify too lol
coarse bay
Undermine was mid and i interacted with it to a minimum level
Super good season though
jade hazel
I’m a sucker for 50s nuclear vibe stuff
undone beacon
I loved undermined as a proud goblin enjoyer
Fantastic soundtrack, a zone FULL of little details and secrets, exclusive dialogue for goblins, a fun car to drive around in
jade hazel
It’s a seriously slept on race
undone beacon
Just a fantastic time
jade hazel
1% haste increase is actually really solid and I love the rocket jump
undone beacon
Its just a shame that using the rocket jump disables leap for 10 seconds
jade hazel
I need a coalition of Vulpera and Goblin players to ask for Transmog to allow us to toggle ears on and off
undone beacon
That was what did me in and made me swap to drac
jade hazel
Only thing that I really don’t like about those races, ears ruin some pretty epic mogs
proper roost
that is a hot take
i love my vulpera's wacky giant ears
the way some hats allow for the ears is excellent (very annoying it is not all hats)
coarse bay
I care so little for like open world or anything, im just in dungeons
So i didnt appreciate it properly
proper roost
Mostly I like vulpera cuz it is gigantic ratchet and clank vibes tho, specifically on bomb hunter
my nostalgia!!
jade hazel
that is a hot take
How is it a hot take to have an option to turn them off or on
proper roost
idk I like the ears 😔
proper roost
okay fair
warm plinth
Female goblins are great w how sassy they are, horrible mogs tho
Female goblin has the greatest feign death animation in the game. That's why my hunter is female goblin XD
proper roost
I want them to clip through everything very annoyingly and be very silly
warm plinth
The dumbest shit in the world is when helms hide horns. Like there'll be a highmountain Tauren with a full ass moose rack and you put a helm on and they what, enter a pocket dimension?
jagged gust
My tauren always be wearing eye patches, can't hide the glory
proper roost
💀
proper roost
damn now i wish vulpera racials didn't suck ass
I love the goofy ahh ears
dumb ass ratchet and clank lookin race
coarse bay
My dk was vulpera until I conformed to the meta
undone beacon
Female goblin has the greatest feign death animation in the game. That's why my...
Okay but the male goblin feign where they fucking like, do a spin in the air as they die is so fucking goofy too I love it
undone beacon
The glasses/sun glasses are bis mog
I'm a fan of engineering goggles but im also a fan of tinker type shit so
coarse bay
No there’s like actual glasses
undone beacon
yeah I know I know
coarse bay
I used a red bandana for a long time too
And i rocked the engineering goggles from wod until i got the marshal hat from garrison
undone beacon
yeah i used to use the bandana a lot
I usually end up using the mechagon goggles since they arent engi locked, or an eyepatch
coarse bay
Ya anything that can be used with any look is just good
jagged gust
Plus it's a proven fact looking more like a pirate > not looking like a pirate
proper roost
🤔
warm plinth
Truth
proper roost
yea idk being a live service game content creator has to be some kind of hell
jade hazel
i perfer my creators to be degens but not click baiters
proper roost
I mean very very few live service games are. WoW is actually one of the decently large live service games where you can, even
undone beacon
guys did you know bear S++ tier all other tanks F-- tier for midnight
wheres my check
proper roost
u should see the view counts for videos like this on other live service games
even with it being really low on WoW
it's cartoonishly low on others, relative to the frequency of output
coarse bay
Ya i mean live service games are just bad for it unless its the hip new thing
proper roost
Idk, I mean, so are any other games. Outside of being an already huge variety streamer, there's a ton of people who are either locked into 1 game or have to actively keep chasing what the new hottest thing is
and 99% of those people are not gonna make anything much better than beer money
coarse bay
Ya its rough
proper roost
all in all, WoW is probably the best single game to contentslop for
just can't be mad at their slop cuz they've locked in to honestly what I think is a terrible job
coarse bay
Oh ya idc about it, tier lists is a small problem
People will lock in and overthink metas outside of that
jagged gust
It's either that or you have to take skill into account
coarse bay
No need to reroll if you just always keep them caught up
warm plinth
Words I never thought I'd read is that ele sham is replacing havoc in the highest meta because of havoc survival issues
warm plinth
Yeah that's what I thought too. Like havoc has always been a fairly tanky spec and ele has always been awful. So definitely not words I expected
jagged gust
Imagine being the class that had a talent that increased the amount of damage you take
warm plinth
Warrior?
coarse bay
Fury warrior at start of legion was such a meme lmao
coarse bay
Yeah that's what I thought too. Like havoc has always been a fairly tanky spec ...
Havoc is pretty good baseline because of leech but in terms of situations that call for a defensive, I guess there’s a pretty high skill cap for that
kind urchin
Berzerker stance used to increase damage taken. And for a long time there was a mechanic that caused you to take increased damage while enraged.
coarse bay
We had a dps warrior in our friend group in legion, and during EN he wanted to play fury. We always joked with him that he chose to take twice the damage to deal half
So he switched to arms eventually, for fury to become good later on
proper roost
💀
warm plinth
Havoc is pretty good baseline because of leech but in terms of situations that c...
Can you explain the skill cap? What's skill based in their defensive kit? Haven't played it since bfa
proper roost
always how it is tho, if anyone is not willing to switch dps specs in a class with multiple, it's always kinda 🤨 for me
coarse bay
Can you explain the skill cap? What's skill based in their defensive kit? Have...
Im not a hdh player but i guess one of the strongest tools in their kit defensively, is also an offensive button. And it’s all about timing everything
proper roost
like if you're maining a rogue in raid u should at least be willing to spec change for patches
warm plinth
Ah
coarse bay
Let me look and see if i can find the ability
coarse bay
Can you explain the skill cap? What's skill based in their defensive kit? Have...
Idk i tried to find it but i dont get it either, it’s just what ive heard from some dh ppl
I think its fine for most content, like anything it only starts to matter at harder stuff
Crazy to put ele above it tho
grim pilot
Words I never thought I'd read is that ele sham is replacing havoc in the highes...
Ele is more damage
Havoc is hard to live sometimes
proper roost
you're not thinking of meta giving hella leech right
outside of blur and giga leech and darkness they don't have anything inherent
proper roost
but the giga leech is rly good
grim pilot
Trinket, bark etc
Yes leech is good but you can die easily from stuff like sawblades or those guys that fixate in floodgate
You do have some passive DR
Like 5% stamina and 3% dr and incorruptible spirit which means some kind of a shield up at basically all times
warm plinth
That sucks, I'm sorry
proper roost
all i know is earth shield/2nd beacon prio and i never earth shield fury warriors or havoc dh
warm plinth
Hope you feel better quickly
proper roost
those guys r unkillable as long as they dont stand in shit
grim pilot
Hope you feel better quickly
Already destroyed my plans for next few days
I’ll probably feel good enough for few days trip @ new years but will see idk
warm plinth
🙏
proper roost
have warlocks gotten anything new in the last 2 years or do i still have to keep earth shielding them
grim pilot
Depends on comp prob
You dont want to give extra attention to something that can heal
Like dk, havoc
Most of the time
Not to mention will of the necropolis
proper roost
idk i've been doing same as DF like hunter > casters > etc but apparently i shouldn't do bm hunters anymore 🤔
grim pilot
Prob most broken defensive talent in the game
coarse bay
Dont tell me there’s nothing more to dh than blur 😂 idk ive been told theyre hard to survive on
grim pilot
It is prone to get oneshotted quite easily because of leather armor, you also have eye beam and VR/felblade which can kill you if you don’t pay attention, but vs rot you’re very tanky
strong forum
We had a dps warrior in our friend group in legion, and during EN he wanted to p...
i still hold this opinion
and it will NOT change
proper roost
keyge
I'm a lil busy will be on in like 30
chilly brook
i still hold this opinion
imagine not just playing the class and playing both dps specs depending on fight/tier
coarse bay
imagine not just playing the class and playing both dps specs depending on fight...
I play warrior, protection is the answer to every fight/tier
warm plinth
Didn't he say 7 est
warm plinth
No that's what I meant; he said 7 est and it's after that
proper roost
proper roost
i woke up early from my nap
warm plinth
Time zones are stupid
warm plinth
We loggin
proper roost
lmao sorry shouldn't rag on this casual guild but this advertisement is so fucking funny
we don't do anything please join our guild
warm plinth
At least they're honest right
Most guilds are like hey we do this and this and this and then you join and it's just crickets
warm plinth
I decided to go see the finale in theaters after all
proper roost
nice
i'll be at the waffle house in spirit. or denny's. or ihop. whatever seedy diner joint you have that's open 24/7
warm plinth
My cat is pissed because I haven't been gaming lately and he wants his limitless attention
So he's now sitting on my desk next to my mouse but facing away from me
tribal wharf
how is wow on modern radeon cards
probably dont, but i have option to go for 9000 series, i know between intel amd nvidia there is alot of variety of pc builds
warm plinth
coarse bay
Did u guys link some relevant achievements? At least the achievement for completion of the dungeon in mythic
warm plinth
Did u guys link some relevant achievements? At least the achievement for complet...
I linked the WotLK heroic dungeon meta
coarse bay
Did they apologize and invite?
warm plinth
No but Pash did whisper them and say thanks for your consideration
New dh spec just dropped
undone beacon
For your consideration, shaman tank
proper roost
wtf is the "you are a bear" WA
LMAO
i really wish i had warcraft recorder from day 1 of keying
warm plinth
I hope when he's not in bear, it says "why are you not bear?"
proper roost
I would have had so many good clips
warm plinth
Maybe I should get that since I never stream anymore
proper roost
there was one ara-kara 12 that I bricked, on the very first pull one of the dps fell off the hole in the first bridge of the webs
warm plinth
I've definitely never done that
warm plinth
I have a clip on my twitch of a friend who wanted to solo two boomies in 2v2 in the days when convoke was super busted
proper roost
i mean i've fallen off ara-kara platforms in unique and novel ways thought impossible to man
warm plinth
He was a bdk
proper roost
but that one was special
warm plinth
I was like you know they're gonna both just insta convoke you right? He was like it's fine
He died so fast
proper roost
💀
proper roost
💀
DK is always fun with the "I can live, I can live" part of purgatory
right before the game slaps you down
warm plinth
I loved seeing all the clips of bdk living the enrage thing on last boss of fall in DF
Er
Yeah it was fall right
The one with chromie helping you
proper roost
that was fall
now i can't remember what the 2nd part of the key is called
there are holes in the brain
proper roost
75 more gilded crests before i can start spending them on gear and not crafts
we r gaming
warm plinth
undone beacon
wtf is the "you are a bear" WA
okay to be fair that is for catweaving
particularly when i have some kind of toy that alters my appearance
because after pulling nexus king 400 times all the bars blend together
undone beacon
every icon is a fang or a claw or a paw
proper roost
was gonna say i never had an issue as resto but i just remembered every heal shifts me out anyway so it didn't matter
undone beacon
better answer "you are a bear" is an affirmation i have to repeat to myself if i want to stay collected in keys
proper roost
TRUE
undone beacon
My kanga jammer 9000 working as intended
proper roost
is that part of elv inactive?
🤔 figured all the out of combat shit will all work fine
compared to healing 2 hours ago and rn i was on oce ping
wtf
that sucked
dense cradle
is that part of elv inactive?
its active
lets me see the azralon andies when they try to hide on other realms
ornate arch
Working on gearing my warrior up for some tankage, just crafted the shield as that was my last super low ilvl piece (610) and added duskthread lining. Have 4pc. Should I hit a 1H wep for the next craft, then go bracers w/ duskthread?
mellow bridge
sure sounds good
ornate arch
Thanks man!!!!!
proper roost
Working on gearing my warrior up for some tankage, just crafted the shield as th...
just a heads up when crafting u want to use the second gilded item to make it a 727 not a 720
Kinda no reason not to
If u dont care about acuity you could also send crafting a 691 base for bracers and neck rn for ilvl and recraft them later
this is all assuming your goal is to farm a ton of gilded crests tho idk
warm plinth
I just converted all my lower crests to gilded and ended up with like 310
So now I'm almost 723 ilevel (on hunter)
proper roost
undone beacon
This guy cranks
jagged pier
always has
obsidian girder
Hey folks, thought about tanking some 12+ dungeons. Due to fury main I got basically low crit. But a lot of haste/mastery and versa. Will this be fine?
jagged pier
Yes
obsidian girder
Ends up in low parry I guess?
cedar rune
For 12s it will be totally fine
obsidian girder
Kk
cedar rune
You can look for opportunities to maybe craft a neck and/or ring to grab some crit if you can, it will feel nice with some crit, but absolutely 100% playable
Just focus on rotation fundamentals and you’ll be perfectly fine
obsidian girder
Okay, thanks 👍🏻
pallid quiver
Hey folks, thought about tanking some 12+ dungeons. Due to fury main I got basic...
For future reference, for pretty much all the tanks, your secondary stats don't really matter too much, as most of the power of the kit comes baseline to the two factors of
A. Just being in a tank spec
B. The base abilities themselves
All the secondaries provide defensive benefit as well, so there's nothing locking you out. For P War especially, the difference between the stats is minimal enough that you can even just sim for DPS and be just fine as long as you keep in mind SB uptime requirements (haste for running ItF instead of HR and the like)
warm plinth
The rare Luerce reply mention
pallid quiver
This balance isn't necessarily there to that extent for all the tanks, but they definitely don't matter as much as you just actually playing well and having gear at all
pallid quiver
The rare Luerce reply mention
i'm reading through the FGO finale for their story that's been actually 8 years in the making smh
warm plinth
Brawler's Guild was pretty meh this time around 🙁
Almost every fight had a single mechanic and even the ones that didn't were a snoozefest
undone beacon
Yeah it was shockingly easy, even all the challenge card fights have been a snooze
I got my rewards and got out
proper roost
Were they ever any more tho
i feel like they were always 1-2 mechanics
i watched a 3.3k priest being eaten by the boss that eats u in melee range the other night
That ruled
quiet meteor
Hello, I'm not sure to understand how the changes regarding addon will impact our UI. Like, the weakaura trackers for ignore pain or shield block will still work?
cedar rune
Weakauras will not work, the built-in cooldown manager will let you track certain buffs/cds
ashen bison
Addons can also read CDM data and make their own visuals with that data (but cannot make computational decisions/alerts).
undone beacon
Were they ever any more tho
I remember some of the fights later in the ranking being more complex, like that one hexagon wave boss or whatever
But i was also worse at the game the last time it came around so, who knows
proper roost
i want to say they gated those behind the challenge cards, didnt they
or did they yeet that one entirely
warm plinth
i want to say they gated those behind the challenge cards, didnt they
Quite a few of the old fights are there on challenge cards but not the eye sadly. He was a lot of fun.
warm plinth
Oh man, maybe they have the right amount of mechanics; watching some struggle bussing right now
warm plinth
Dude I forgot about the giraffe XD
proper roost
Wat
warm plinth
One of the old brawler's guild bosses is literally just a giraffe that does nothing but hit like an absolute truck
You can fight it with challenge cards, though it's pretty lame as prot war since you still take 0 damage
proper roost
i'm so tempted to ping choco and ask if he's resubbing for midnight and/or why he's playing lemix
warm plinth
Who is choco
warm plinth
I don't think so
proper roost
oh wait he....
warm plinth
Tbh I was mentally checked out for most of DF even when I was playing
proper roost
might have only been in dps channels
and prot very occasionally
did some keys with nimchip and i ages ago
warm plinth
Gotcha. I also have made Nimchip suffer with my gameplay at times 🙂
He keeps coming back though so I think he's a glutton for punishment.
proper roost
i think this most recent guild betrayal probably killed nimchip forever
warm plinth
Oh no, what happened? 🙁
proper roost
uh
i think his guild benched him and then broke up like last season? or so?
been a bit
warm plinth
Rough
proper roost
it was kinda awkward cuz i asked him about what he was up to like
2 weeks before his guild exploded
and he was like yep in a much better guild than before, benched for now but nbd
and then his guild exploded
warm plinth
oof
warm plinth
@undone beacon any key interest?
undone beacon
I just got done running my brother though most of the lemix dungeons on mythic so I think I’m chillin for now
warm plinth
okie dokie artichokie
proper roost
ret pally with 1 kick in an entire hoa
stood in almost every avoidable aoe (high score of like 8 statue hits in last boss - was only a 13 so he legit lived at 5 hp almost every time)
hate these ppl
i should have salty linked the total interrupts before i left that group
oh did 1m less dps than the tank too
undone beacon
More shitter dps in keys I see
proper roost
incredibly bad
luckily we did time it by like
2 seconds
the pwar kinda cranked tho
big 5m dps cranker, terrible route tho
i can kinda feel myself on the cusp of impostor syndrome feeling
have to play better
toxic gyro
big 5m dps cranker, terrible route tho
I hate when tanks that have absolutely no idea what they’re doing and make some dogshit routes. Like just import some pug friendly routes from any streamer/youtuber/or website.
cerulean tusk
I enjoy when ppl do something different, simply because I seen the standard routes so many times.
Not to mention, some times you can see their logic and it is interesting. Information I then use to customise my own choices
cloud solstice
Nah the ultimate strategy, is to become a WoW streamer, who doesn't clean their ...
My room pretty clean tho
coarse bay
I hate when tanks that have absolutely no idea what they’re doing and make some ...
Ive seen what some websites consider pug friendly, and sometimes id rather them cook themselves
toxic gyro
I enjoy when ppl do something different, simply because I seen the standard rout...
Pulls like 4 spread obliterators are my favorite or 1 pack at the time chained into 2nd right after your cds ended
sharp merlin
My room pretty clean tho
HAHAH you weren't who I was referencing 😂
tribal wharf
My room pretty clean tho
man, turns age 40
P O L I T I C S
and MUH GUBBERMINT BIG DUM STEWPID
WHY??????? (i dunno, hell if i know)
the world may never know
it just happens to alot of ppl, many such cases
only gets worse from there, when you are 50 and 60 im told you stop giving a fuck entirely and then one day you decide you like mountain biking and spend 7,000 on a bike and go on a 6 week ride out of no where
so im told
quiet meteor
Hey guys I just tried tanking a +2 for the first time, I had really hard time (I didn't make it :')). I only have 600ilvl, I guess it's doable for good players but it's still hard no ?
high latch
Hey guys I just tried tanking a +2 for the first time, I had really hard time (...
600 sounds quite low. The recommended item level I've heard thrown around a bit is 660, but it greatly depends on skill and the rest of your party.
proper roost
bad routes are no thang who gaf
warm plinth
I finished all the new brawler's guild stuff.
proper roost
Now you can carry my warrior through delves
I have been watching youtube shitposts all morning. very productive day imo
proper roost
i need to redo my warrior's ui
on my rsham it can be dogshit and it doesn't matter but my warrior's buttons are all in the wrong places for my eyes to look
proper roost
cerulean tusk
3.1k... main, is saying ya bad without saying you are bad
proper roost
low keys are so wild
healer died to every boss and on the 2nd to last one, he just stayed dead
tilted off the face of the earth 😔
warm plinth
Now you can carry my warrior through delves
I can tonight i believe. Not home currently