Just kinda hard to get a good group willing to grind crests at this point probably lol
#protection
coarse bay
unreal yarrow
Someone here talked about delves and converting being efficient. Probably not super fun though
proper roost
Wtf I can trade up?
coarse bay
704+ every slot
unreal yarrow
45 = 15
coarse bay
This season just more dead than last
I geared a character in a weekend last season like a month before s3 with just 1 other person
More keys
Imo better dungeons
red ferry
what does that have to do with mgos wtf.,,,.
coarse bay
Yup
red ferry
huh
red ferry
yes
coarse bay
Howd it go
red ferry
coarse bay
Huge
proper roost
Holy
red ferry
@undone beacon wheres my warrior to bear keybind equivilancy chart...
proper roost
that's really easy actually
replace shield slam with mangle
tc with thrash
ironfur with shield block or IP (controversial! but u press it more like IP frequency than sb frequency)
red ferry
ironfur is pressed with ip frequency?
undone beacon
Ironfur is pressed more than IP
red ferry
ok
undone beacon
Ironfur is your main way to spend rage
coarse bay
Ya u dont have to think to send if
undone beacon
In fact, in keys you should only be spending on IF (as EC)
proper roost
and I bind fr on my IP button
but also i just have a good brain instead of a bad brain
red ferry
oh god
proper roost
:)
red ferry
each form has a different set of keybinds
coarse bay
Just keep some rage for regen or brez i guess lol
proper roost
i also have moonfire on my revenge keybind but that's just a little quirk chungus
coarse bay
i also have moonfire on my revenge keybind but that's just a little quirk chungu...
Same
proper roost
u dont really press moonfire
undone beacon
Literally to play bear it’s as simple as:
1: Hit Mangle and Thrash on CD
2: Dump rage into Ironfur
3: Send Lunar Beam and Incarn on packs, basically CD
4: Fill with Moonfire
proper roost
except to pull
red ferry
i have been HARMED by it before
coarse bay
But its also my AS button
undone beacon
u dont really press moonfire
Incorrect lol
proper roost
But its also my AS button
holy same
coarse bay
u dont really press moonfire
U do
undone beacon
Stop trying to give advice on specs you aren’t playing smh
undone beacon
Moonfire is your main filler, you hit it between Mangle/Thrash
undone beacon
You’re actively trolling if you only rely on GG procs for moonfire
coarse bay
Tuning changes priority usually
red ferry
ok wait
undone beacon
In practice, not really
red ferry
ok whats moonfire then
undone beacon
Mangle, Thrash, Moonfire, LB
undone beacon
Moonfire is your filler
red ferry
ok so moonfire is revenge
undone beacon
You press moonfire when you have nothing else to hit
red ferry
er
coarse bay
Mangle and thrash on cd, moonfire if neither
red ferry
executre
proper roost
..
red ferry
and thrash on r
undone beacon
There’s not a 1-1 equivalency
upbeat plover
undone beacon
I’m telling you, literally just hit mangle and thrash on CD like you do with Shield Slam, Moonfire as filler, hit Lunar Beam on CD or when it’s appropriate, dump your rage into ironfur, incarn is your big dps/survivabilty CD
Do that and you’ll do better than 95% of pug bears
proper roost
the repercussions of thorns of iron have been disastrous for all bearkind
grim pilot
I geared a character in a weekend last season like a month before s3 with just 1...
I did that in s3
red ferry
is incarn pressed with avatar frequency
grim pilot
My shaman went from
proper roost
ironthorns
or whatever
grim pilot
Fresh to playing 20’s in less than 2 weeks
undone beacon
is incarn pressed with avatar frequency
It’s around 1:30-2min cd with proper play
proper roost
Its not that dead
i mean rn is a lot deader than i remember s3 df being but idk
red ferry
shield wall??
coarse bay
shield wall??
Ya
undone beacon
Barkskin is your main low cd defensive, Survival Instincts is your shield wall
red ferry
ok barkskin is shield block
proper roost
I kind of like these keys. Floodgate makes me sweat
grim pilot
Yes these keys are fine but
red ferry
thats fine
undone beacon
It’s still a defensive
grim pilot
Here u have streets, halls
red ferry
streets doesnt suck
theres zero routing freedom
whats wrong with streets
is it a boss
undone beacon
Also in incarn you literally only hit mangle and thrash and spam your ironfur key
And you will shoot to top dps
undone beacon
Sure
coarse bay
whats wrong with streets
Lots of rp, bosses, small pulls, people dont like those things
proper roost
What's the annoying thing about HoA? I haven't done it enough to know
the caster pulls?
coarse bay
Halls is ex
red ferry
What's the annoying thing about HoA? I haven't done it enough to know
TOO MUCH ROUTING FREEDOM
coarse bay
Ez, i like it
proper roost
shut up khailby
undone beacon
Are you at your pc Khailby I can hop in VC and give you a crash course
proper roost
yeah i like hoa right now i just haven't done it rly
It starts out with big healer mechanic which is kind of fun. wakes u up
coarse bay
Hoa is good idk
undone beacon
Shitting, one sec
coarse bay
LOL
proper roost
err, I did hoa a little to some high io in SL s4 but i was also playing survival hunter
undone beacon
you asked I answered
red ferry
proper roost
and bdk was meta I think (or I always only played with bdk) and mass grip changes things a lot in that key
grim pilot
What's the annoying thing about HoA? I haven't done it enough to know
Idk i just dont like it
U can do big overalls
But i dont really like the dungeon
coarse bay
#makegorefiendsbaseline
proper roost
That's fair
grim pilot
But flood/ara/halls is where u can do biggest overalls
proper roost
I think my least favorite rn is streets because the mail boss fucks me up
grim pilot
My highest so far was in flood
proper roost
Kind of a silly complaint though maybe
coarse bay
Hoa has a lot of good variety in the pull styles, bosses, and mechanics
And not a lot of bs
And ez to have good cd timings
grim pilot
In pugs people do 1 route
So most people dont experience it
Lots of overlaps can happen
Which are annoying
And need to be optimized
coarse bay
Im not talking different routing, i mean u get big pulls, pulls with a prio, etc
There isnt much routing variety there except maybe some comp optimization
proper roost
big pulls r fun
oh wait, there's some rng annoyance in floodgate i hate
Uh
this happened yesterday idk if people were just being dumb but pulling harpooners randomly
while going across the water
just adds like 50m group damage taken for free and it's a huge tilter
coarse bay
Need kicks
proper roost
ya but they pulled it on top of the surveyor dudes
coarse bay
Oh
proper roost
we had like 9 divers (two extra packs)
it was only a 10 so I could heal thru it, but it was. spicy
Bad spicy
grim pilot
There isnt much routing variety there except maybe some comp optimization
There is a lot of routing variety
proper roost
And it felt like mostly we only pulled those extra packs cuz they pat around, bit rng, very annoying
coarse bay
What would u skip
grim pilot
Most houndmasters
coarse bay
Idk i wouldnt choose to skip them
U can only skip the 2 near first boss
And ud maybe risk a butt pull
grim pilot
In pugs yes but that doesnt mean there is no variety
U can skip more, play later or dont play at all
Play slasher to last boss
There is variety
coarse bay
Which ones are u skipping besides those 2
coarse bay
Lol im not gonna base it on mdi routing
grim pilot
Why not?
coarse bay
Like ya that obviously means its possible routing but they usually pull to maximum optimizations that most people cant do
grim pilot
You can’t say there’s not much to do and then discard most optimizations
I mentioned how in pugs you have 1 viable route
coarse bay
Most optimizations?
grim pilot
That doesn’t mean dungeon is that straightforward
coarse bay
I just said mdi routing
Especially with the avoidance some of their routing isnt possible in live
coarse bay
It has huge impact
grim pilot
No it doesn’t
proper roost
🍿
grim pilot
You basically have around 10% on live and play key level lower, it evens out
coarse bay
If it didnt live keys would be same as mdi
grim pilot
Avoidance doesn’t have much impact on routing in halls
coarse bay
And i think its also normal for pug routing to be standardized anyways
Like things are different with a team at title level discussing route before keys
grim pilot
Having 1 standard route doesn’t mean you’re limited to one in pugs
coarse bay
Like while there are options for different routing
Isnt that the same for every dungeon except eco this season
They all have options yet a standard route
And maybe db
At a certain level theyre all the same routes
Theres like maybe 1 change youll see in routing in psf
coarse bay
Bears dont complain
red ferry
no
ask pash
ive bound all the buttons i dont have
thats EVERY button ill have from now until and at max
coarse bay
Where incarn
coarse bay
And theres another cd bottom of tree i forget the name
red ferry
because im level 11
coarse bay
Do u not take it
red ferry
heart of the wild
undone beacon
Where incarn
Shows as Berserk until you take Incarn itself
red ferry
symbio?
coarse bay
The cd thats like 20% dr and 10% phys dmg or whatever
undone beacon
Ohhh rage of the sleeper
coarse bay
Ya
red ferry
proper roost
you guys have taught khailby how to have ego even tho he's level 10 and has never played the spec before
this is the worst timeline
emo khailby was way better, now he's just going to be shit because u gave him an ego
😔
red ferry
undone beacon
huge
proper roost
As long as he’s gaming
I do not think he will be gaming but idk maybe expectations need to be lowered
coarse bay
When are u planning on playing all these alts youre mapping
coarse bay
This guy will be an altoholic with no main
proper roost
I mean he's just a casual player
undone beacon
tank main extraordinaire
proper roost
Nothing wrong with that
coarse bay
When are u planning on playing all these alts youre mapping
No its a serious question
Takes a lot of time to play so many alts
Trust me
red ferry
uh
i just want them to max
i want to figure out what tank i want to play
this is not altsing
this is feeling for the main
coarse bay
Ahh
coarse bay
Choosing based on leveling is still wrong youll have to key a bit
red ferry
thats fine
im mostly just tryiong to complete lemix
then i can transfer them all over
undone beacon
Let the man Lemix dammit
proper roost
🍿
he thinks he will learn anything about how the tanks work in lemix
i saw the artifact tree and went holy moly this game mode actively teaches you how not to play these
red ferry
i mean
in my defense
i dont actually press that button
BUT
you do get 500% on all stats
so who really learns anything
coarse bay
Let the man Lemix dammit
No thats fine, just cant let him form his opinions based off lemix
red ferry
do people even still play hearthstone i wonder
coarse bay
Some
coarse bay
What even is that
red ferry
half the hearthstone dev team quit
and made a marvel based card game
with more players
coarse bay
Keep your card games away from me ty
proper roost
digital cardboard scares cammy
😔
seriously tho
khailby is just doing avg casual things
play lemix be afraid of key
red ferry
im not afraid of keys
proper roost
i get it now.
red ferry
theyre just lengthy
and
you have to deal with other people
this lets me play alone for a bit
without stressing over who im letting down
proper roost
will need to find another tank to actually play the video game with
red ferry
kanga
proper roost
🍿
red ferry
ok i only did 1
proper roost
I also did three 11 delves because i'm down bad for gilded crests
coarse bay
Ill accept lower
proper roost
today I will be doing 15 keys
red ferry
i can pull things from narnia
red ferry
today I will be doing 15 keys
i too will do these 15 keys
proper roost
No you won't
proper roost
I think you are functionally incapable of respecting other peoples' time
coarse bay
Bear is the chillest tank
red ferry
I think you are functionally incapable of respecting other peoples' time
where is this coming from
oh
i know where
ok so for context
proper roost
?? I came home early for remix and you literally logged off for 4 hours
red ferry
i spent 20 minutes choosing beards on my druid for lemix
IM SORRY KANGA I DIDNT DO IT ON PURPOSE
i have people in my household
proper roost
You also said you had keys last week
and I just did all vault slots on my own
- cam helped with 2 gamer
unreal yarrow
You two are adorable
proper roost
Thanks, it's quite easy for me
Anyways, if I do 15 keys today
15 tomorrow
15 on the weekend
then i will have 715 ilvl and rat my way into a mythic guild.
strong forum
red ferry
hi nom
coarse bay
Bless your souls
proper roost
i hate tank flakers tho fr
coarse bay
Ill only do 15 keys in a day rn if theyre all gambit
proper roost
have like 5 of them on my friendslist
red ferry
Okay kanga thats enough
coarse bay
I kinda flaked yesterday but i was expecting a khailby too
red ferry
you're doing that thing again
proper roost
u ask and they exist about 5% of the time (literally watching them sitting in city doing nothing for 1 hour)
proper roost
I kinda flaked yesterday but i was expecting a khailby too
nah its cool im just doing vault key rn anyway
proper roost
you're doing that thing again
i no longer care about your feelings
red ferry
Why
proper roost
you've lost the mandate of heaven
red ferry
okay
coarse bay
After holiday season we’re locking in khailby
red ferry
i dont know
proper roost
i'm locking in DURING the holidays
red ferry
kanga is being really hurtful
proper roost
5 day weekend
coarse bay
If u lock in kanga cant talk shit
proper roost
(I don't think I can actually physically do 15 keys in a day)
100% true
Literally can't talk shit if you just actually hit 3k io
Which is easy
proper roost
(I don't think I can actually physically do 15 keys in a day)
actually this is only 8 hours of keys. it's doable
coarse bay
Ill be able to game next week
Im at my parents until sunday
And khailby will be there
coarse bay
Thats fine
red ferry
i should be able to be mentally sound
without having to WORRY
about what KANGA will say
all day
proper roost
Why do you care what I say
coarse bay
But u gotta do vaults eventually before tuesday
proper roost
I mean he has 1 (one) myth vault slot
red ferry
you
proper roost
Same as last week! So that is good enough. In theory
red ferry
you're doing it again
coarse bay
Khailby do lemix and chill
But when u can do shit with people i would take the opportunity
Its better than solo when they arent around
proper roost
once my shaman rats into a guild I'm going to play my pwar because waiting for tanks to do keys as healer (because soloq is a nightmare that is out of my hands) is terrible
at least as tank u can dictate 80% of the key
I hate tank players fr
coarse bay
But when u can do shit with people i would take the opportunity
But this is based on whatever u want for yourself, whatever u find fun
red ferry
@undone beacon why is the wowhead mythic guide using
these talents
on left tree
it takes symbiotic and natures vigil and innervate
coarse bay
Class trees usually have some flex
undone beacon
Flex points, vigil, innervate, and symbiotic are minor group utility
coarse bay
Ya i dont take those either
undone beacon
Comes down to preference, I don’t run with healers that need the extra support so I don’t take extra healing throughout
proper roost
Innervate is actually useless
undone beacon
Druid tree has to split across four specs with different roles so, lots of flex points
proper roost
you can't oom on healers
undone beacon
you can't oom on healers
Lies, you went oom in that flood
proper roost
The mediocre to average druid in floodgate that I had kept innervating me and I was like bruv this is doing nothing please just press your buttons
Yeah I was oom, but you aren't actually oom
Kinda hard to explain
healer mana is fake
coarse bay
Healers can oom if u need to spend every global on a heal, meaning bad team
undone beacon
If only that bear had innervate
proper roost
sometimes healer mana is real, most of the times, it is not
like hpal mana isn't real
proper roost
i do remember that
i think there were a few high healing keys that were kinda sketchy
but tbh in cases like that, usually a clutch HT saves way more mana than anything
in this season, pressing riptide heals like 25% so the game is sorta braindead. spec might be giga op
tribal wharf
i dunno how i did it
proper roost
it is not normally amount of healing
tribal wharf
but the yogi man score a 2tb m.2 for 140 usd
coarse bay
it is not normally amount of healing
Ya end of expac healer tuning is pretty crazy
Hpal is a single global to fill hp, 2 globals for whole group
proper roost
maybe i should play rdruid instead of pwar
coarse bay
No wonder why damage has to be so spiky
proper roost
since druid is actually op
coarse bay
@red ferry i was just thinking, youre probably the only person that has stuck around through all of the toxicity and stayed here while being new
Thats why we care and wanna see u become big
red ferry
its a living
coarse bay
Youre our mascot
proper roost
i wish i had resubbed when my friend told me to and not 8 weeks later when the season was way more dead
😔
proper roost
It's rarely a huge issue imo
well, ok
I mean, you have almost only shitters to play with
coarse bay
Just behind in xp
proper roost
But pushing is all near the end anyway
and catching up on experience on the keys is really fast
coarse bay
Big diff having grinded all season
proper roost
It's just like a couple weeks of pain with shitty players, then its caught up
i'm bing chilling tbh
red ferry
im chilling too
coarse bay
Idk at least on tank its kinda grief cuz u learn painpoints latee
proper roost
yea on tank it's kinda annoying
this is like the 4th time i've done a late season as healer and it's always fairly chill
All the other healers still playing are dogshit so if you can learn in a couple keys, you're automatically 95th percentile
coarse bay
Like i can hop on dps and push rn but i wouldn’t late push as tank
Id have groups but i dont wanna troll them for hours figuring pulls out in resi keys
I dont like wasting ppls time
proper roost
ya i follow
learning the pulls is way more annoying as tank
especially leaping ahead key levels
whereas healer you can kind of intuit how much healing you're able to do at your current skill level
coarse bay
Like i jumped into 17 streets when 17 was hard on my ppal and it took like 10 resets to survive the first room
proper roost
and interpolate it into higher keys
coarse bay
I felt bad
proper roost
i could do like a 15 healing atm and that's about it i think
and it would be hella sketch
proper roost
yea
need to get good at CBT before i can do 17s
or switch to HST
and just accept that I suck
coarse bay
Just overgear it
red ferry
hst?
coarse bay
Rsham things
red ferry
oh
red ferry
ah
proper roost
yeah
idk is 725 overgearing 17s
coarse bay
Yes
coarse bay
Ya still need to play good but it all depends on who u play with
proper roost
coarse bay
If u play with title players u can just chill
coarse bay
Get them on alts
coarse bay
I should be fine to do 17s on my warrior after like a week of warming up
But i still dont know if i wanna play lol
proper roost
i have powerful self motivation
for now
maybe it will not be around when i get spam declined for 13s, who knows
red ferry
i do too
proper roost
as long as I can actually get accepted to keys, i'm bing chilling imo
i don't tilt from keys
mental fortitude champion
coarse bay
My problem is too many games rn
red ferry
i also dont tilt in keys
coarse bay
If that wasnt tilt
red ferry
yeah
proper roost
My problem is too many games rn
ya i have the opposite, dont rly have any games i care to play rn
red ferry
abiotic factor
proper roost
so might as well keyge
undone beacon
risk of rain 2
red ferry
risk of rain 2
late trellis
routing question
after we send ascension on sentinel before 2nd boss in eco, we usually pull 2 farstalkers, phaseblades, and ruinstalker into the boss. but we found we need to wait for dk breath such that we can get good boss damage in and kill farstalkers before intermission
should we just do an extra pull before the boss instead and tag more count?
this is our current route, chain 9
coarse bay
I assume this is for a 20 or 21?
late trellis
21
we timed 20 3 min under but still feels a little tight in 21
like can't have more than 3-5 deaths
undone beacon
The power of fucky scaling ftw
red ferry
so true
coarse bay
we timed 20 3 min under but still feels a little tight in 21
I dont think anybody active in this discord rn is at that level so you wont get any experienced answers here unfortunately. You’d know better than us what your team is struggling with and/or needs changing.
That said 3 minutes should be enough for a key level as long as you arent dying to something now with the added damage. If you feel that you need to add a pull you can always do the back right of the area before the boss
kind urchin
Where are you lusting in this area? Boss pull, intermission, Sentinel? If lusting intermission you could wait to pull the extra trash into the boss since that first phase is short.
grim pilot
this is our current route, chain 9
Pull 3 separate the 2 phaseblades and take it to next pull, found its nicer for everyone tho its personal preference
And pull patrol mobs in pull 10 to last boss
Have hunter pull it for you somewhere midway, he has MD, if anyone else does it they might get meleed to death and if you do it you can either reset boss or have it inconvenient for your melee dps
Shouldn’t wait for dk’s breath before going boss
Definitely does not matter in the 21 lvl, idk how kira played his 24
Route itself looks pretty good, either you’re setting stuff up slowly or you have terribly low damage if you’re this tight on 20
I’m betting my money on the former
Fully finish pull 8 and u can play pull 9 at once instead of chaining
late trellis
@grim pilot ty, is 1 ranged kick enough to bring it into the boss area if Hunter pulls it?
my only worry is stressing out the healer any more given its a tough healing fight and having to keep a shaman alive
We got to pull 9 with like 10min left, I'm not sure if that's fast or slow for 21
grim pilot
<@325173865175318529> ty, is 1 ranged kick enough to bring it into the boss area...
Not sure but should have shaman cover just in case or dk grip
grim pilot
We got to pull 9 with like 10min left, I'm not sure if that's fast or slow for 2...
U have 2 pulls and a boss, it’s aight. Should have like 2 mins left, not the worst timer for a progress run
red ferry
you may not believe this but today i will do a key
kind urchin
@red ferry Good luck.
undone beacon
you may not believe this but today i will do a key
coarse bay
<@325173865175318529> ty, is 1 ranged kick enough to bring it into the boss area...
Should be 2 kicks
proper roost
til you can fall off karesh
undone beacon
I wonder if I can fall off this piece of terrain floating in space
red ferry
proper roost
undone beacon
proper roost
everyone was chill about it
undone beacon
With a name like bussybulwark I’d expect them to be
jade hazel
They’re cool lol. Wow feels like a small world.
undone beacon
@proper roost when you’re done in that eco I wanna know what you think of the surv changes for midnight
undone beacon
Oh lame nvm
undone beacon
In midnight they’re going from spear fantasy to being able to use two 1-handers
You also have a shotgun
proper roost
lame
undone beacon
It’s less “hardened wilderness trapper” and more “crazed redneck with bombs and a broomstick”
proper roost
ok nvm based
undone beacon
And sentinel fits the fantasy even less now >:(
It genuinely looks really fun to play but
I wish they would just add a tinker already
No more explosive shot tho
coarse bay
But hunter
Ngl i had a long thing typed out kinda toxic towards hunter but i decided to sum it up
proper roost
I wish they would just add a tinker already
yea my main complaint through s4 was that i wished they'd lean more into the bombs thing for surv
The half melee with some ranged abilities is fine, it's kinda like ret pally like that
or well since like DF every melee except dps war has had giga range anyway
Wildfire bombs is just a great button
That being said I hate it when surv is meta or good because keys are annoying enough with all melee in mid/low keys
just play ur fuckin ranged specs bro 😠
I would def play hunter if i had time
i would alt like 5 different things in this game
late trellis
Shouldn’t wait for dk’s breath before going boss
Gotcha ty, only other q, we do lust 2nd boss on pull with funnel and we have wiped because farstalkers (2) live till intermission and leap overlap kills someone (which is why we waited for breath since ascendance cd). I’m wondering about maybe changing the pull before to 4 phaseblades + 4 farstalkers and sending pillar + call of the wild to try and kill the casters before boss, and can maybe do the extra ritualist + phaseblade + ruinstaker into boss as funnel with lust
like instead of going straight to boss with 2 farstalkers and some other stuff as funnel, maybe just making another pull out of it and then going boss
I just can’t seem to find the extra 2% I need to remove the pactspeaker pull from the route (7)
rugged otter
I just can’t seem to find the extra 2% I need to remove the pactspeaker pull fro...
this is the route our group currently does, 7+8 are on 2nd boss after 1st and 2nd intermission respectively
if you don't want to change your first pull and deal with skips, something like this could also work
grim pilot
Gotcha ty, only other q, we do lust 2nd boss on pull with funnel and we have wip...
Can’t say it has wiped us, usually we have defs or our healer outheals it idk can’t remember last time we got oneshots there regardless of cd timings
Also the pack with ritualist (3 mobs next to 2nd sentinel) is good on boss, gives shaman DR and basically a free count
You kinda want to have 1 caster perma that dk and shaman solo kick bc of how easy it gives free count
mellow bridge
a screenshot of details dps will definitely solve this mystery
proper roost
yeah he's probably not pressing buttons
just like u can tell when a pwar sucks cuz they have like 30% revenge dps
ur just not a knower
i pinged the knower
😎
undone beacon
Are you a knower or a grower
proper roost
shower (rsham pun)
undone beacon
more like
bro-er
proper roost
i do not follow
warm plinth
Then you must lead
proper roost
ghash i need 150 more gilded crests
undone beacon
Ghash hand over the crests
proper roost
i need to enlist u to play the video game
warm plinth
I've heard you can get them from keystone dungeons
warm plinth
Mehhhhhh
undone beacon
Owned
proper roost
smh
warm plinth
I am cozy in bed with cat
proper roost
oh valid
undone beacon
I’d join you Kanga but I’m at my parents house for the holiday and I’m not gonna try and key on their machines. As an apology, puppies
proper roost
i shoulda just added my ecodome tank
except he did 1 (one) incorrect thing and i was like i cba
warm plinth
I got my sick base ui set up on my woyer. Haven't used it yet
proper roost
Good dogs
warm plinth
except he did 1 (one) incorrect thing and i was like i cba
What thing
proper roost
yes
warm plinth
😱
proper roost
only one tbf but it was weird
warm plinth
Idk i YOLO my routes hard
proper roost
rogue died because i'm 99% sure that guy has literally never seen that mob before
warm plinth
125% is the goal
proper roost
i mean friend keys get leniency
warm plinth
Jk it's not that bad
proper roost
pugs get judged if they dont play at 150% efficiency
them's just the rules
i don't make them
warm plinth
Tbh I pulled one only one time by accident so I probably would have too
proper roost
that's how u know when u beast a key cuz you actually played to extreme above average standards and someone compliments u
coarse bay
<@127599847166574592> why was this ppal so squishy
At least show me the auras section if all i see is details
proper roost
i don't want to link the log because i fucked up last boss
warm plinth
Inb4 12% uptime on cons
proper roost
proper roost
It might have just been that he was 701 ilvl? idk
wait, sorry, this is the wrong tank lol
ur right, 64% cons uptime
proper roost
only goak lol
coarse bay
Looking at dmg breakdown they also just dont know how to play this season im betting
warm plinth
WHOOPS autologging is not on
Are you fuckin log teasing us?
coarse bay
And refining fire is like an s1 talent choice
proper roost
i just deleted all my wow files when i uninstalled last time
so it's reset all my addon settings
proper roost
I died on like the first 30 seconds of streets tho
So that run was maybe doomed from the start
warm plinth
That takes real skill
proper roost
no it doesn't
there's the ground circle and it only half shows up on the stairs
and i was kind of zoning out
when tf do you lust on streets btw
warm plinth
What level keys are you doing? I can hop on for some unless I have to use brain
coarse bay
when tf do you lust on streets btw
2nd pull, mailroom trash pull, last boss
proper roost
ok that's what i figured
coarse bay
Ya i mean it looks like the tank has a personally cooked build and a personally build route
warm plinth
nah it's ok i'm way too brain tired to do any rn without throwing
OH SO NOW WE'RE KEY BAITING AGAIN?
coarse bay
64% shake the heavens uptime tells me he doesnt know how to play templar, which i could tell by AS use
But i dont shame
warm plinth
Ok be on in a few mins
proper roost
you have to tank priory 12 btw
coarse bay
Lol
proper roost
forgot to reroll it after my ecodome
coarse bay
U need for io anyways
proper roost
yeah
though i can get into 12s natty now
they do not fear my ilvl as much anymore
warm plinth
you have to tank priory 12 btw
Oh good, my favorite key
proper roost
good it better be cuz cam refuses to tank it
warm plinth
It's my least favorite key
coarse bay
I dont refuse but i hate it more than any other this expac
warm plinth
I want to like Priory but I just...don't
warm plinth
If every fucking part of it wasn't so god awful without a dk
coarse bay
ALSO ppal sucked last season, and first boss there cooks ppal with left side route
warm plinth
And even if you have a DK, you get the DK who didn't buy Death grip at the trainer
Even though that isn't a thing anymore
proper roost
wow players only want 1 thing
(vision of 8 back to back freeholds)
warm plinth
Should I leave my addons off? 🙂
proper roost
yeah sure why not
coarse bay
Nah im fine with every other dungeon in s2 and s3
Actually fuck dfc too
But i like all others
warm plinth
I'm a massive 717 ilevel
coarse bay
Any dungeon with uncontrollable mobs
proper roost
woah
nice, that's a whole 8 ilvl above me
ghash do you not even have r.io installed
warm plinth
Probably not updated
proper roost
doesn't even show anything 💀
warm plinth
ARE YOU JUDGING MY SCORE
warm plinth
It's like 736. Is that ok?
proper roost
no i want it to be lower
warm plinth
Oh sorry, minor dyslexia: 637
proper roost
yeah lower io than ilvl or else you're a poser
warm plinth
Think it's updated now
coarse bay
Kanga what do you use for logging? Just wc logs?
proper roost
ya have wcl uploader
coarse bay
Ive been meaning to set up warcraft recorder
warm plinth
Loggerhead is bis autolog
coarse bay
It records vods with it
proper roost
oh that might be kinda sick
hollow patio
Warcraft recorder is cool. Highly recommend it.
coarse bay
Ya i want to use it just lazy and not caring enough rn
hollow patio
Honestly I started using it in Shadowlands because I felt there were so many situations like "Why did I die? There was no void zone".
It's nice to have proof that you either just didn't see it or some frontal randomly snapped on top of you.
The frontals in dawnbreaker used to do that a lot
Or maybe not Shadowlands I am not sure. Maybe later
coarse bay
Vods are just as useful as logs
hollow patio
A combination of both is really cool. I sometimes use the logs to see the timestamp of something I want to look up and then I watch the situation in my vod
jagged gust
There's a new tool that lets you turn your log into a 3d map
might only be for raids tho haven't played with it
coarse bay
Ya the map is cool, but i usually review logs on phone and its a pain in the ass
You can definitely tell everything from logs but it’s a lot easier to visualize a problem or show it to someone in a vod
coarse bay
@red ferry how many keys did u do
proper roost
sry for 1 key i am REALLY sleepy tho @warm plinth
thank for doing priory
i was legit falling asleep the entire last half of that key
warm plinth
You have now experienced my shit tanking.
warm plinth
not entering?
proper roost
ya dude he literally wasn't there for the entire first pull
thats why it took so long lmao
warm plinth
Ohhh
proper roost
he fucked up his talents ig
warm plinth
That's kinda funny considering he was doing a lot of pulling for me at the end
proper roost
And then when he tried to run in, he ran directly into mobs
and died
LOL
and the 2nd time he finally got there about 2 minutes into the actual key
warm plinth
Yeah ngl I was just making sure I didn't fuck up my pulls; I wasn't paying attention to shit else
proper roost
And then i dont remember the last half because i was trying so hard not to fall asleep
warm plinth
He started pulling for me in the last room despite us having like 13 mins left on timer
warm plinth
Aren't you like 30
warm plinth
gn
proper roost
4 more keys to go to 12 all and then i start blasting 14s (might do this next week so i can get another week of gear)
warm plinth
ngl I panicked hard on the pull at the start of last room because my PC decided to just freeze for 5 seconds at a sketchy moment
proper roost
ya my computer does not like this key
warm plinth
I was literally out loud going PLEASE DON'T DO THIS
proper roost
closed firefox mid key
warm plinth
Then panicked because I forgot that the pull I didn't intend to pull had 2 of the flamebois
and thought I had let a heal go off on the mobs but I guess I missed it by luck
Hey you know what, I will take that for not having done a non-remix key in like months
@lusty grotto pls judge me https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/P1mj2YDyGLna6QZ4?fight=last&type=summary
warm plinth
oh god
warm plinth
I mean, how was he gonna make it back in time? 😏
red ferry
thats not my death log
warm plinth
Oh I thought it was just damage taken; where's the timestamps lol
warm plinth
what level key was this?
red ferry
yeah
idk if youll save it though
kanga couldnt save runs
2 people alone cant compensate for pure dumb
warm plinth
Add me Ghash#1346
warm plinth
Kanga saved first pull of priory after all
despite it taking what felt like 11 minutes
proper roost
Couldnt rly when i was giga undergeared
warm plinth
yes, we know that :p
warm plinth
still counts
warm plinth
Besides battle rezzing at the entrance of the dungeon?
proper roost
is that a dps deathlog
was he supposed to be meleed by crab for 8 seconds
sry 5.5
warm plinth
That part was calculated
warm plinth
Healer was the evoker I think
warm plinth
Still shouldn't have had the mobs on him that long I don't think.
Even if he did ass pull them
warm plinth
yeah, plus nailed on top of it is super spicy
So he couldn't even run them to the tank
well, not without leaving bear anyway
red ferry
was he supposed to be meleed by crab for 8 seconds
was he supposed to butt pull crabs while i'm in the hardest hitting pack of the dungeon
👍
warm plinth
What are you considering the hardest hitting pull in the dungeon?
That'd be like 2nd pull wouldn't it?
warm plinth
Wait, people do that pull now? What the fuck lol
red ferry
any time anyone had aggro other than me it would be butt pull
warm plinth
Yeah I'm never pulling that. That's a shit pull.
warm plinth
well idk how they even got crabs at all on that pull, much less 4 of them
warm plinth
Eevn if they did somehow pull the ones down below, there's only 3
red ferry
i dont even do a pull with more than 2 crabs
warm plinth
I only pull 1 crab personally
warm plinth
like at all I mean, not per pull
warm plinth
well idk, I've never seen that pull done before, and I mean I've taken a break but it's only been a couple months, not even outside the season
proper roost
proper roost
2 more keys til my vault for week is done
warm plinth
Wait wait wait
How does he have Nailed if that's the pull you were doing? That isn't right.
proper roost
I'm watching a video on ftl while comfy cozy in bed
red ferry
hey kanga why did you tell me to do keys
proper roost
Theyre fun
red ferry
i cant stand being the best player in any given key
because i suck
its genuinely not ok
proper roost
u get better at the game