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Khailby got flamed in a 10 and is quitting wow forever
he called me a slur :(
I missed baby's first 10?!
yep
complete with blood elf ret paladin saying mean words
the quintessential experience
but did he have ashbringer?
stereotypes are hurtful
but
ret paladin stereotypes
are true
so they arent stereotypes
I had to teach a ret pally in a 12 what a kick was
we were in voice, he legit didn't know he had one
Hell yea brother Roidburg is all about the crit and parry
We will do 7 dps or we might do 7 million. Who knows? Not us.
we bricked the ara kara 12 in the first 5 minutes because no one except khailby kicked @undone beacon
my first death (i also didnt kick cuz i was panicking)
tilted
the word is TIRED
(tired of yo bullshit ,,l...,...)
i dont think youve seen me tilted yet btw actually
thats a lot of pc what kind of game are u running here
i didn't realize the catalyst charges were not time gated
ya i told u
So i was holding them for hero gear
no
so i just need to grab non-explorer track legs and i'm 4pc
which will allegedly be a big difference
who can say
ok good news 2pc is mega huge, 4pc is ok
he accused them of being u
mythic or heroic brand
Heroic
the diff matters less than you'd think
gottem
should i spend my coins on one
yes
it would be heroic
yes
replacemaker?
Look at these crits
replace pacemaker*
17million almost
antenna is prettier
Replace whatever myrt tells you not to replace
cant hear u
they do the same thing
then yes keep antenna
you're gonna realistically lose some balls
at least a pair
theres a joke here to be made
no
i dont want to weakaura
:majj:
they all kinda blend together to me
constant stream of piss numbers donking around the screen
isnt rigby a bird?
no that cat is named rigby
kanga didnt like healing that pull after the second boss
with the 3 crawlers
and the 5 guys inside the ruined building
we scuffed it and it was still a +1 we coulda gotten +2 i think
the 2nd boss deaths literally took like 3 minutes to reset
yea
that was the only issue
no joke
and 1st boss wasted 5 minutes cuz of the melee pool
having a character boost is so weird cuz like
do i use it on a bdk
or do ijust
lemix one
11 delves and 11 keys
Pretty large
I just noticed it was kanga talking about lemixing lol
I thought it was khailby getting side tracked again
How would I tell if I'm ragedumping too much in M+ in unempowered Revenge casts? Had a friend tell me the unempowered ones in higher keys may not be as worth casting due to its low damage
like in terms of damage? Feel like survivability I could see IP casts being more worthwhile
I think the main difference is IP is ogcd so you can keep slamming and clapping while you dump rage
Thats how i understand it
Revenge =/= rage dump
Revenge! (the empowered proc) can be entirely ignored
Has literally no bearing on your rotation
Revenge is an incredibly small portion of your overall damage, it's there to apply deep wounds and trigger tactician Strategist
which is good!
But like your goal is to make sure you have enough rage to press it when you don't have anything else to press so you can trigger Strategist so you can Shield Slam more, thus IP is your rage dump, revenge is your filler
revenge should have more value in rotation if you are col
Yeah it hit me when it mentioned, even with slamming as much as I do it hits like a wet noodle
Just will feel weird not sending those empty globals into something
Yur
It was extremely cool content
Everybody did it for a day
And everybody bought the exact same enchant on week 2
And that was it for the rest of the season
You missed nothing
How many 10s did u do while i napped
Everyone bought Twilight Dev, for sure 
Not the stat booster that was Leagues ahead of "damage gains".
I just had fun and used Twilight Dev either way 
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twilight dev in bfa was rediculous
not gunna watch it
tldr hes crying about discord moderators, numbers nerds and cheat death trinkets in +30's
(which like, 8 ppl in the whole world do those)
alot of negative energy from that guy
when you fail out of dental school: you can't handle the tooth
is that anything? is that a joke?
Ope
That’s Mike tython

real
whats a twilight dev
it's like a daylight dev but with a bad sleep schedule
i'm on a roll with the jokes today
Sounds just like me
based
i do think its weird he referenced something from bfa as an example but yeah
Why's that weird
That's his first hand experience, he's pretty isolated from class discords
And he stated that it was how it used to be and might not be the same now
But I will say this discord, specifically this channel, is quite a bit less of a shithole than most other class discords I've checked out
pretty sure hammer of wrath is not great
I am not surprised that he had a bad experience with the dk discord 
@mighty valley streaming adds
how
i press thunderclap and i think im too far away from them
im trying to learn my ability ranges
but just walking back and forth on training dummies isnt really teaching me anything
me and kanga talked a lot about it
i feel inept at this
play the game more
You'll get a feel over time when you thunderclap and miss and the mob aggros and murders your healer
Do you take the Crackling Thunder talent
yes
like this is the radius of my thunderclap right
look how big that is
and im still not getting aggro on streaming mobs
v different meaning
fixed
maybe it would help if you saw how someone pulls a big pull as pwar
cuz you do it very awkwardly
yea i think i just dont know how to pull
cause like you see me on bosses right
im chillin
im solving mechanics
im doing a good chunk of what sim says is my theoretical max
but pulling...
ultra messy run lmao, surprised we timed it. that last pull before the last boss was so sketchy
watch the first like 1 minute of this sorry sense I just googled a random ara kara from u and its old as shit
watch how
his very 1st tc
and his very first leap
first of all
those nameplates are huge
-
the tc hits max range, and he strafes to get them
-
he uses the leap dmg to hit those flyers AND move
he leaps into a pull for the flyers
is he supposed to do that
and then you remember how I said leap is not perfect aggro, but tc will be
well pay attn cuz he leaps and then he tcs again on the flyers
cuz...
and then the 3rd/4th set, he pulls the right set with HT, shield charges the left set
im gonna be honest
and then holds TC for like a second so he gets the set on the miniboss
Do u see how all of that is happening
that video looks like how i think im doing
like that video looks like what im doing
to me
in my head
you go down
you thunderclap
you leap
you thunderclap
you heroic throw a pack or two
you thunderclap
no the ranges are rly important you just keep missing the ranges
ok but if i hit the ranges then would it be what im doing
ok but
you're moving way slower
oh
I'll record next arakara and you'll see from my pov how its just like 50% slower than this and you linger on packs for no reason
Cuz he's moving such that he has a new pack on every tc cd every time
until he's at the end
tc value maxing is very important you're not doing that at all
no
you're not doing the same thing at all really
you're just hitting tc cuz tc is a sim good button not with the knowledge of timing/range
no im not hitting it cuz its a sim good button im hitting it cause i want to hit it actually
He's spacing pulls around the TCs
you're pulling and TCing whenever it happens
i dont really know what a sim good button is
ohhhh
so he times his pulls around the thunderclap
That's the point, the TCs are not happenstance
Just hit the mobs with something
So that's why it looks like your pulls are slow and wrong
You can troar for gathering too
And you linger on mobs like 3 TCs worth, which makes dps think you're just stopping there, but then you keep going
ok well shield charge is a really good dps button and sense uses it right there
for threat instead of dps
Troar not aoe taunt
what do u think that means
it means that hes pressing it because its an aoe button
it means for big pulls especially, you have to be flexible
and he wants threat
have to use your brain
sometimes you roar
well u should be
and the only reason to follow what cammy said there is because you're focused on optimizing roar damage
i aked gpt if twilight dev would make top 25 most overpowered things in wow and it answered yes and more likely top 15 (discounting times players cheated like martins fury)
Move to pack, press something that hits all the mobs, charge/leap to next pack, repeat
is that the dot
thats the dot
yuea
i press that for threat sometimes
most of the time honestly
same for shield charge cuz theyre both aoe
i think i once pressed stormbolt for threat too\
Lol
I press a lot of buttons
I think you simply do not have a good estimation of how you're playing because you are too inexperienced to be able to tell what you're doing in the moment
gpt also claims 3.0 Death Knights were the most overpowered thing ever to be put into wow
i will record and you will see yourself from non tank pov
i believe it
because this is not how you pulled ara kara
ok
I bet ur right
i dont think ive ever made an observation about myself that was true
so
I trust you
Anyway ya i know shush
Hes a chill guy
Might be a different one actually
Nevermind its a different one
But i’m sure theyre all very cool 
I think actually just watching the entire run is useful
since he messes up on the last miniboss section and misses a TC, so he explicitly calls to be care threat
because he actually sees he misses TCs on mobs (you're not there yet)
Ok ill watch it
?
you sit on a pack for like 2-3 TCs worth of gcds (aka like 6-10s) and then wonder why dps go in early
but if you see how sense is pulling the big packs
I think because if i dont then i ll miss them or lose threat
Its a sanity check
For me
its because he 1) gives dps very little time to even catch up, the mobs are constantly moving 2) he doesn't stop moving until they're actually grouped
So from DPS pov you are signaling to dps because you stop
Oh
so watching sense and critically asking why he does literally anything in the first 5 minutes is very valuable, including recognizing mistakes, but you have to be cognizant that you arent doing any of this correctly
Okay
Step one
Dont stop holding w until the pull is done
Step two
Be aware of range
And make sure you tc each pack
no, that's not correct either
cuz he does stop actually, like in the first 5 minutes, he stops a couple times because he misses TC
oh
and waits for a 2nd TC to hit the mobs then move to next pack
but he's always still moving in between packs
Step one
Dont stop holding w until the pull is done
Step one.5
Stop holding w if you miss a tc to hit a tc
Then refer to step 1
Like that?
im trying to make a script for myself
there isnt
aw
and its not the exact movements to study
its the thought process for every gcd
which u must figure out
so it can become muscle memory
should I nap or get lunch
are you going to be recovered or should i just sleep @red ferry
eep it is ig man does NOT want to study
Get lunch
Sorry
Im watching
and eating
Or sleep
Idk im busy for a while now
Preparing for christmas
I see there was some confusion there
I talked to the little one about disrupting shout not thunderous roar
Wait
Not that i would because it sucks
Youre that young?
Im 20
yeah he's 12
they lied, achievements only got added in wotlk and they didn't get dated retroactively
you bought it like the simple fool u are
Smh
im positive it was late tbc
it was wotlk prepatch (so yes, tbc technically)
Guh
alright i'm gonna go pass out i woke up 4 hours earlier than i meant t
Cheeves might not have existed before you were born but I've been tanking longer than you've been alive.
Got me beat. EQ was when I got started. Before that it was RTS's and Nintendo.
oh right
i forgot i cant get invited to 10 or higher unless its my own key
because you need 710 and resilient 10s
i hate that because rerolling my key is rng
so its hard to get that big selection of dungeons all to 10
I’m going to out myself as a bad player but I relied on a weak aura to remind me when shield block was about to fall off with a noise. Is there any way at all to do this in midnight? Or do we have to rely on the bar / buff icon ?
if u do about 3 or 4 dungeons on 10 on time and some other dungeons completed or timed you will have more success applying
players mostly care about 3 things, your achivements, your item level, and your io score, which they can calculate on fly to see how much risk or reward you are to invite
The cold truth is that at this point in the season you aren’t a commodity at that key level, there will be other players better than you in the queue. People would prefer to be carried where possible, I’m sure you do too
clearly i am always the best player in the party
Nope
Well that sucks, thanks man.
"yeah i do prefer when i don't have to play the game to play the game"

maybe its a dps thing
Getting carried as in having a competent group. Not so you don’t do anything at all
well thats not getting carried
thats playing the game
idk i just think you used the wrong word or something
It is unfortunately as the vast majority of players aren’t performing at the level expected at that key range
Yeah carried to me is doing their job as I’m so cynical
nothin is free in this life
LOL
stolen goods are free
about what
one day you will have to answer for your actions
no i wont
i do actions recreationally
nothing i ever do has any meaning or merit to it actually
so they aren't even true actions
go off king
thats good
i really need that weapon slot 4 and tome slot 4 badly
so i can have a proper megachad build
also saw some gr8 memes
look at this one
this is me in keys as u nonstop yap @red ferry
What’s up nerds
playing with my doggo
he's learned how to pass the ball
he can roll it a good 10 or so feet now
I love that for him
he's a very good boy but immediately stops doing anything cool once my camera is out
excellent dog
c'mon man....
🐶
I’ll ping ya when I’m home and if you’re around I could do a few
Ok thank
i've resolved that the play is to spend my next like 500 gilded crests on 727 crafted
mucho grinding
<@&257983573498265600> Money making opportunity
lmao
Mmkay
smh i can't believe the mods are taking bribes now
We always have
yam is screaming right now
Yeah he's really weird and wrong about shit
Damn, no wonder where all the free steam gift cards are going...
gold exists to be spent
also crafting r5 stuff is like 0 cost now i got like 5 crafters to dm me saying i could tip whatever i wanted
shit cost like 20k in S1
oh, yeah
are 10k
Anyway, yeah. IMO you just rip sparks right now, there are 10 sparks (11 this upcoming tuesday)
Unless you're doing mythic raid, you get 1 myth track piece per week from vault
if you're lucky
so most of your slots are going to have to be spark crafts
who dis
my favorite comment on the video was
from all the class discords blood dk is by far the worst of them all because of one person and its not even close. hes name is mendl and he does nothing else 24/7 than being toxic in that channel for absolutly no reason. he also writes the guides for blood dks which never match any of the specs ppl end up playing in raid or m+. he is 100% toxic 100% theory and hes the reason i suggest everyone alive to avoid this blood dk channel on all cost.
insane copypasta potential
and this
im sure he is 🙂

New yoda vid dropped?!
that was his very last message in the server
its weird that he posts aggregates and complains about sims but it is what it is
Quitr funny that the build they were playing at the start of the season were the highest simming build that could take bsv

Surely there was another reason
Surely dropping HR and having ITF is more tanky, espeically when you dont have the haste , surely
casuals are hilarious
I always like when someone is like I bet theyre not better than xyz io and u know its always a selfreport on the highest io they ever got
Always
Never forget, this is the quality of theorycraft content streamers are spewing
That is a build
I am just glad more and more open their eyes to:
The build is not what will make of break your progress

Soon there will be more 2h Pwarriors
Which tbf i domt think weve ever said it not the case
As well always saying living comea from play more than talents
Bring it back, good content and season dead
Time for funky 2hand prot
True 
did you miss the dagger fury warrior person through all of DF
They were persistent. legendary possibly
This must be fake, they take shield spec and we all know shield spec is the last talent a streamer would pick
I've seen worse.
🙂
ok ill be back when brew pings me again
i left a comment on max's clip
ok nevermind its begin deleted lol
🤷♂️
heres what i was posting:
1. We're not trying to be toxic, but we do get a bunch of the same questions and unfortunately lose patience. I apologize to anyone because I've definitely done it. On the contrary, i would rather have more people coming in asking for help than be dissuaded by the idea of joining and being met with toxicity.
2. Cheat death opinions are mostly directed at average players - if youre at the very top, we shouldn't be telling you not to run cheat, but we don't really know which content/key lvl/raid difficulty they are at until they mention it. The idea is that the average player should not need them so they learn their class in an effective way (i.e. failure/dying is the best teacher). The content they are doing should have enough leeway to permit them to have oh shit moments and not completely screw them over if they die or get chunked. That being said, our opinion on cheat talents and trinkets has become less toxic as time goes on: wear the cheat trinket or use the cheat talent and don't worry about it.
3. My answer to questions about Kira's, Yoda's or any streamer builds basically boil down to "ask them". We can do math, and tell you what works and what doesn't but we can't answer for rank1 players. Maybe they are seeing something we don't. We can only assume as to the reasons they pick x talent. Aggreggate sites like Archon, Murlok, etc etc have a lot of copycats, and hiveminds regarding talent choices and if we can't answer for any streamer/rank1 player, we can also not answer for anyone that's copy pasting their builds.```
get fucked with the wall of text
nimchip want to carry me through a dawnbreaker 12
i dont know anything about those guys as people but operating on “helicopter stuck in a tree” logic, based on what he names his hunter pets, etc, he doesn’t seem like the best guy to listen to on subjects of social norms
it won't be a carry i'm gaming actually
Dawnbreaker…
who max?
Yea
im not... listening to anyone on social norms
im just giving my 2 cents
oh
Because people will watch that video
i mean he has some good takes
And take it
im not talking about that though
i think a no would have sufficed 😔
Idk i dont do content creator culture
what i mean is
That video is on the subject of like
Socialization
i mean hes the leader of liquid... so
Not the game
if i watch him its for WoW related things
Ok
im not even sure he has RL videos
Im not TALKING about that
NIMCHIP
the VIDEO thats going around
About the class discord
Is NOT about wow game balance
Its about his PERCEPTION of sociology
its not that deep
And then i post this again
its wow related
i have jalapeno chips
:)
Is he super buff irl
It was just him not liking what he heard once in the blood dk discord. I don't think anyone here should take it personally
Cause hes so dumb right now
i get what youre saying but
it doesnt really matter
i never said it did
because all in all this discord exists to help people
dw im not changing
Yea
i like to clap back if someone comes clapping
no dont worry nimchip
but first timers shouldn't be met with absolute vile responses
i lov u
I genuinely do not care
This is the fifth time ive seen this convo so ill say what i say every time
Huge news for the unemployed

Are you employed?
Yeah
Stinks that i joined in a downtime period because these sorts of subjects are really lame to see and participate in but the alternative is taking a nap 
yes
very true
just not wow
i need more time in the day or something
im trying to play poe 2, eft, and WWM
tuff to juggle
not tft
is the current tft season fun? Haven't played since like set 7
I love that dev team so much, I made a point in their reddit and they added it to the next patch notes
Plus Mortdog is just such a mensch
i need u to tank my formerly 12 now 11 dawnbreaker
👍
Its not just me
Brutal
I havent slept since friday night i was gonna nap lol
Its sunday???
Mr popular
Thats the reason i need to sleep
all good i'll just let it brick to a 10

healers literally have 0 control over these keys
until
True
Healers can control if it bricks but not the success
They shoulda been a bear, woulda survived
No khailby for only an 11?
and then types "?" when he insta dies
bro does NOT want to do keys
I'm also very skeptical he's done any keys since two days ago
r.io does not show any
@red ferry
prove it is all im saying
idk
since last time
either way
just think about it
if he had actually done keys he woulda talked about them
but he didn't
Who ping*
suspicious
Sorry
Are you tanking the 11 db?
no im getting a pug
There’s accusations of no keys run
I actually did do some keys today but they were 6s so i thought they were beyond discussing
Just ara kara practice
No im eating
Im also at a christmas party but i dont know many people
So im doing the weather app in the corner tech
Tell them you’re talking to your internet friends because we’re cooler
I dont see todays runs on there
Susge all you want
He did say he did 6s idk
I did
minutes ago
Oh i missed that
And i low tilted
And abandonvote

I count that as cleared cause we wouldve timed +1 if not for 3 final boss wipes
I mean, at that point still shoulda finished it for crests and vault imo but
You do you boo
i didnt abandonvote
i always vote no on those
Because i want the experience
But i always lose
Wait
U told me u did a 12
Not that u bricked a 12 and left
Man im spending my time in bed reading the salty comments on that max video lmao
All of them complaining about the response to sim
I watched it live like a week ago and i didnt think anything of his take, its his opinion based on back in legion lol
And then they release the clip and it goes wild
I joined this convo late what’s the context of this clip?
Max saying that he trusts top level players over theory crafters for tank
And he talked about how class discords are toxic clique systems pretty much
the comments from twitch at the beginning "Too many people treat tanks as DPS with a taunt"
Idk i heard it and didnt care, he even mentioned it happening in legion, but so many people are eating it up
Sounds like someone got beat on the meters 
Definitely agree with this for some of them tbh XD
I mean ive heard some are bad but all the ones im in are good
I see some of them called out for being toxic and stuff lol, like ppal is imo a pretty good disc for questions
Like obviously here we have someone like khailby but thats an exception, usually we’re nice surely
what
ok its this conversation again
we are having the exact same conversation again
I found the guy who said this
I can only speak for this channel in Skyhold as it's the only one I frequent. And even this channel can get a bit abrasive at times, depending on who is here to respond.
Idc im just getting some fun from it, but nimchip’s disappeared comment was true. Some of them may have some asses at times but the main purpose of the class discords is to help
i know its entirely selfish to say this but i think that discussing the video has literally zero value because a). His experience he’s discussing is really really old and b). he may be really good at wow but i don’t want to take advice on how to socialize from the guy with the pet name

Could discuss visions
That's where most class discord opinions come from anyway
I have a shit opinion of the disc priest discord because the one time I went there to ask a question, people were instantly just unfriendly and unhelpful
Does Max actually play the game? I've only seen them RLing
Like no one is going to stick around if that's their first experience 🤷 I'm still in the priest discord but I don't attempt to speak in there. Just look at the resources on the rare occasion I play priest
I can't with priest disc, please don't make me use the phrase uppies 🙁
Not really
Yeah there's like...5 or something mounts that they added just inside the visions
Voidcycle, the wolf, the wyvern, the stallion, and the junk one I think
Mail one is a repeat
I just said it's a repeat nerd
Like the toys?
no
Who cares about toys
Like the other mounts
mount farming in the year of our lord 2025
and titles
Because I don't collect shit
Spoken like a man with no invincibles reins
I've been playing since October of 2016 and I JUST got the 300 mounts achievement, and that's from yolo spending bronze on remix
smh,,,,,
whatever year TBC came out for me
I have my retired nelf kitty mount, that's all that matters
This is AFTER purchasing every possible item from the vendors
Got another 53k on my hunter
gn buddy it's like 7pm..
4:49
ur so fucked
Hmm
Also get doxxed idiot
Wait, am or pm lol
Pm
he's pst
California
Oh
GIGA doxxed
all healer discords are terrible, priest main discord is rly rly bad
Literally just Cammy lives there
San francisco
THE gay city. Put some respec on their name
Well im not in sf but just bay area
So are you,,,,
cammy did u see the cardboard meat drama
No
The what
I can't hear San Francisco without thinking about the postcard joke Daniel Tosh did about it
Lmao
this might be info that only ppl who go outside know
People go outside?
Wheres that
It's that shadowy place; you must never go there Simba
You playing pwar?
@red ferry
no rsham
I'll dps it, why not
i'll do it tomorrow maybe, no tanks
Oh, baited
BAITED I TELL YOU
Lol
healing with these shit players is so fucking hard man u dont understand
Its literally that meme of the 2 guys
I would tank it but I was fucking around with base UI on my warrior last time I was on it so his UI is fuuuuucked
1 guy sweating his ass off the other guy vibing like hell
healing these low keys with dogshit players eating every single cd and not kicking anything
and tanks not using defensives
its legit harder than healing a 15
Ya when i was last playing i started healing for fun
Did i cook
It's fun at high keys it is not fun at low keys
But had people to key with so i was doing 15s day 2
Druid better, hot everything and afk
I hate rdruid
Then went solo in like 10s and it was rough
Rsham is literally the guardian druid of healers
i hate rdruid as well idk, really hate HoT healing
When shaman is meta its always idk feels weird
I dont believe youre 20
But when druid is u can feel the hots
U gotta be jr high
Nope
Thunderstorm/cap totem/wind shear is just rly fun to play with
imo this is cuz cloudburst is hella rng if the player is good at it or not
@proper roost If I can heal this, you can do anything
wdym i healed way more than that already!
Probably like my 5th ever dungeon healing 
I didn't even have 2pc for the 10-11s i've done until today
Thats actually a good point cammy
smh
How do people prove their age online without doxxing
U dont
they say it
link your social security number
I pushed a bit on druid 2 months ago and lwk healing is omega stressful
Every website uses id
Tanking is much more relaxing
lwk?
lowkey
Lowkey
Cammy doubts me because i made a gingerbread house
tanking is chill af, yea
According to online and anybody ive ever gamed with, ive been an adult for like 20 years when i first started playing mmos
You go from sleeping in low low keys, to WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON in mid keys, and then in high keys you're vibing
You can find messages from like 6 years ago saying i was 14
If you dig enough
just like Nish was banned a year ago or so LMAO
And dps is pure afk u can focus on parsing so even more fun
nimchip want to tank my 12 hoa
no
Ye i was doing only mid keys
Wait does discord ban doxxing or underage
Nimchip want to tank Kanga's 12 hoa that I'm dpsing
Both




