protection

[grim pilot]

last uh 30 sec or 45 sec or 1 min (idk which one) are basically grace period where your deaths dont count towards the timer

[proper roost]

chair throwin ass

[coarse bay]

Why arent u doing your own keys

[undone beacon]

I'm pretty sure you can get better pants and rings from world quests

[red ferry]

am i suppsed to

[undone beacon]

how does a wcm go so badly you quit

[coarse bay]

To push it

And choose your team

[red ferry]

oh

uhh

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-chair-smash-window-rage-tantrum-wreck-gif-11841488

[red ferry]

i guess ur right

[coarse bay]

You arent getting to 10s without your own key

[red ferry]

ok

[proper roost]

wdym

We wiped like four times before 2nd boss and then bricked on 2nd boss and I felt so bad I quit :>

[grim pilot]

make some shit up

8k df

you will get invited

[proper roost]

and i did the equivalent of throwing my chair

ez as

[undone beacon]

oh, yikes okay touche

[red ferry]

im really still confused

im actively avoiding pressing revenge

like constantly thinking about it

and i still have more revenge casts than shield slam

[undone beacon]

Casts or hits?

[red ferry]

casts

[grim pilot]

very little shield slams

and everything

in general

what's your haste

[red ferry]

15%

[proper roost]

but also there were other reasons i quit that season

[grim pilot]

oh you're playing colossus

[red ferry]

ya

[proper roost]

i'm pretty sure i dmed nimchip like 2 weeks in going "i have no time to play this season sry" and skedaddled

[red ferry]

why

[grim pilot]

idk colossus well, you kinda want to press revenge a lot

[red ferry]

yea but more than shield slam??

idk

[undone beacon]

whats your haste rating, not your haste %

[grim pilot]

compare it to some top colossus logs

if there are any

[red ferry]

ohhh

7500

[undone beacon]

You... need more haste for sure

[merry condor]

Wut. How long has this existed???

[grim pilot]

since i started

so since df at least

[red ferry]

nom and i have 640 ilvl

in the log

[grim pilot]

well there's your answer

just check if you have similar haste as that's the only thing that impacts your casts

[red ferry]

i think he had like

[merry condor]

Welp TIL, ty

[red ferry]

9000 haste rating

idk if thats a big diff

from 7500

[grim pilot]

no

that's no diff

[red ferry]

ya

[undone beacon]

The breakpoint we usually say for swapping to ITF from HR is ~21k haste... 7500 is really low

[proper roost]

he's so whiny about it

just play the keys it doesn't matter!

[red ferry]

i can play the keys and clear them but if i do it without playing properly isnt that reinforcing bad behavior

[undone beacon]

Practice more of course but your gear is really bad lol

Go do some delves nerd

[grim pilot]

you're playing improper hero talents

for starters

[red ferry]

am i

this is what ur suppoosed to play for colossus

iirc

[grim pilot]

hero talents

not talents

[undone beacon]

They mean the preferred hero talent tree this season is Mountain Thane

[red ferry]

where do i check my hero talents

ohhhh

[grim pilot]

if you want to play properly swap to mt

[red ferry]

ya but next season its gonna be colossus

because allegedly

mt is meta due to tier set alone

nod nod

[grim pilot]

next season is next season

[red ferry]

and colossus is closer to

real warrior gameplay fundamentals

so it builds

a good foundation

[grim pilot]

you have 4 months till that ssn

or something

[red ferry]

tyea

but its better to stick with one thing

ask kanga or nom

theyre big colossus fans

[undone beacon]

Literally can't know what the meta is for next season until next season though. Until close to the end of the PTR cycle for 11.2 Colossus was cracked and MT was dogwater

[proper roost]

You guys know the gif of bart being strangled

I want to do that with khailby

[red ferry]

thats not nice

[proper roost]

yeah also its literally alpha rn

[grim pilot]

au contraire

you want some variety

[red ferry]

o

do you

[grim pilot]

that's how you learn faster

[red ferry]

@proper roost is this guy smarter than you

idk im gonna go do another key

[undone beacon]

Khailby

Look at K'aresh WQs

See if theres one for a ring

Get rid of the circlet

[red ferry]

oh

[grim pilot]

if you have level boost from buying wow

[undone beacon]

You're trolling so hard wearing a 639 circlet with one gem

[red ferry]

theres this

[grim pilot]

idk what u get it from

[red ferry]

i do

but im already level 80

[grim pilot]

allegedly you can get all 4 base tww reps

[proper roost]

Yes

But also

[grim pilot]

maxed out

[proper roost]

There's 500 different approaches to the game

No one is wrong

[grim pilot]

which means

[proper roost]

No one is right

okay, wait, a lot of people are wrong

[grim pilot]

you can fully craft 675 gear

[proper roost]

But there's 500 right ways, so who cares

[red ferry]

i cant craft gear

heres my current gear

[undone beacon]

i love it when people split their messages into 80 messages so they all intertwine

[grim pilot]

nvm i thought you have worse gear

[proper roost]

fuck you. i'm mid work rn i can only send stream of consciousness

[undone beacon]

quit your job hippie

[red ferry]

i used to do that when i was younger

[undone beacon]

get rid of the circlet please im begging you it hurts me

[undone beacon]

go do this

[red ferry]

pash its only a 10 ilvl upgrade

and its crit vers

are u sure

[undone beacon]

Circlet literally has

No stats

[red ferry]

oh

[undone beacon]

Because you didnt do siren isle

You have one siren isle gem in it

[proper roost]

💀

[undone beacon]

You're basically wearing one ring right now

[red ferry]

one ring

lord of the rings reference

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/mailbox-trolling-vtuber-catgirl-epic-gif-23626677

[red ferry]

:soy:

[proper roost]

I mean honestly, I do agree that you should just have played Mountain Thane, but idc at this point and i don't honestly think it matters

but mostly you should play MT because you will eventually get 4pc for this season (sooner rather than later, probably 1-2 wk at most since catalyst) and you should play MT then obviously

[red ferry]

oh

i have 4pc

[proper roost]

are you fucking dumb

why are you not playing MT

[red ferry]

yes

[grim pilot]

4pc is like

[red ferry]

because

[grim pilot]

infinite damage gain

[red ferry]

nom said to play

colossus

and colossus has demolish

and i press it and things explode

[grim pilot]

yeah which hits as much as 1 thunder blast

[undone beacon]

Demolish feels very good to be fair, but also thunder blast does too

[grim pilot]

play w.e u want

but if you want to improve

[coarse bay]

Ive said play thane but yaknow

[grim pilot]

and get idk 3k or w.e your goal is for this ssn

[coarse bay]

It wont make the difference for you right now

[proper roost]

I mean I thought he didn't have 4pc

[grim pilot]

you're giga gimping yourself by playing colossus

which is harder

[red ferry]

ya ive had 4pc like

3 days after i joined the discord

[grim pilot]

does less damage

[proper roost]

It is really fucking dumb to play colo if he had 4pc this entire time

[grim pilot]

and has worse survi

[coarse bay]

Pretty sure theyre similar defensively

[red ferry]

uhhh

which one makes it so

so i uhh

so i get aggro better

[undone beacon]

If played correctly...

[coarse bay]

Thane is easier in every way

[undone beacon]

Thane

[grim pilot]

idk the exact numbers

but at best it's equal

when played perfectly

which realistically is not the scenario

thane you have 3 buttons

which you can smash in whichever order

[proper roost]

Well ur problem is you keep running in, pressing revenge as your first GCD to try and get aggro, and you miss your frontal on mobs that ran past you

So MT pressing TC more will actually fix that

[red ferry]

are u surew this is worth it

[proper roost]

because you have the worst habit in the world at charge revenging for some fucking reason

💀

[undone beacon]

why must you question me when im trying to help you

[grim pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26024652

[red ferry]

sorry

[proper roost]

Like even typing out the sequence of doing charge revenge is the dumbest shit ever

[red ferry]

ill equip it

hold on

[proper roost]

but you do it all the time

[red ferry]

ok

so what do i change to play thane i guess

[undone beacon]

Prioritize revenge less

Hit thunder blast

win

[grim pilot]

for starters spam shield slam

and if you cant spam it

[red ferry]

no i mean

[grim pilot]

spam thunder clap

[undone beacon]

you mean

[proper roost]

you mean

[red ferry]

oh ok

so i need to run intervene over stun

[undone beacon]

?

[red ferry]

im looking at the thane build on icyveins

[proper roost]

Those are all flex points

Use your brain

[grim pilot]

you dont drop stun

basically ever

your flex points are longer shockwave or 3% leech

vs intervene

but they're massively irrelevant for you, and you likely shouldn't even talent intervene

[proper roost]

You should use stun when you suck at the game, you don't even have party frames, but also i go off raider.io rather than guide websites imo

[undone beacon]

...to be fair, the icyveins Thane M+ build doesnt take stormbolt, which is interesting but

[proper roost]

fukken 90% of the m+ talents on guide websites are dog ass wowee

[undone beacon]

overall wont make or break your gameplay

[proper roost]

he sends stormbolt rly randomly

tbf

[undone beacon]

oh

[proper roost]

so

[undone beacon]

hey it does damage, its in my rotation now

[red ferry]

so its this

[undone beacon]

Thats fine yeah

[grim pilot]

nah its wrong

[proper roost]

well half the time he had an issue with pressing heroic throw way too much

[red ferry]

what

[proper roost]

so he started replacing HT with stormbolt sometimes

and it's kinda cooked

[grim pilot]

for starters

use this

[undone beacon]

oh wait i didnt even see that

good catch

[grim pilot]

these r mine

change intervene to 3% leech

[red ferry]

what do i change rallying cry to

cause it sucks

quoth everyone here

[grim pilot]

why would u drop it

[red ferry]

because u dont press it

because its bad

thats what i heard

[grim pilot]

lol

[proper roost]

??

[grim pilot]

cooked take

[proper roost]

I literally told you when to use it every key last night

[red ferry]

isnt it

[proper roost]

Stop being fucking stupid

[red ferry]

getrting removed

in midnight

someone told me that

[grim pilot]

yeah so

xD

idk if it is

but even if it is

[proper roost]

Midnight is midnight and now is now

[proper roost]

stop being like uhh huhuh what about 4 months from now

[red ferry]

ok i found where i heard it from

[proper roost]

Wowee

[red ferry]

@coarse bay hey

theyre saying rallying cry

is important

to have

[undone beacon]

its not getting removed

Its getting buffed actually

For M+

[red ferry]

why would cammy lie to me

hes pretty good at the game

[unreal yarrow]

Rallying cry is actually good and saves lives when used well

[red ferry]

i dont think he would lie on purpose

[grim pilot]

rally cry is not good

but u dont want to drop it

u get fuckall

u lose raid defensive

[unreal yarrow]

Either communicate with your healer or use it when bars all dip

[red ferry]

ok

ill take it then

[undone beacon]

Its important to remember Khailby that a lot of what goes on in class/spec discords is theory/feelycrafting. Rallying is disliked because its very subpar as a group utility compared to tools some other tanks have. Thus the discourse revolves around it being bad in a vacuum. In reality, it still has its uses and you should be using it. Its not just Lay on Hands or AMZ

[coarse bay]

In m+ its currently incredibly weak

[red ferry]

hey wait what leech talent are we talking about

[coarse bay]

It’s better than nothing, but it’s not so strong that it’s a locked in pick, you can choose to drop it and be fine

[red ferry]

oh i found it

sorry

[coarse bay]

But if you have rallying, use it

[unreal yarrow]

It can save keys

[coarse bay]

10% max hp is almost never going to make a difference

But like i said more than nothing

[red ferry]

bloodsurge or hunker down

[coarse bay]

It’s probably the weakest group cd

[red ferry]

you take bloodsurge

[undone beacon]

And here it goes again, theory vs feely vs actual gameplay. Theres not a hard right answer.

[red ferry]

guides say hunker down

[undone beacon]

Its a flex point

[coarse bay]

Ya my thing was he didnt use it much

[grim pilot]

bloodsurge is more damage

and more survi on packs

[coarse bay]

So if you dont use it enough, dont take it

[grim pilot]

2% avoidance is mostly useless

[coarse bay]

Or if u need to drop binds

[grim pilot]

spell reflect dr is mostly useless as you don't really die on bosses

[undone beacon]

Who needs binds just click like a real gamer

[red ferry]

here u go

[grim pilot]

also bloodsurge is straight up more fun

[undone beacon]

I dont even own a keyboard

[red ferry]

we did it

we are thaning it

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26735574

Babe wake up, Khailby is thaning it

[proper roost]

Excited for him to do 0 keys again after yapping about it for an hour

and a half

Wowee

[coarse bay]

Lmao

[red ferry]

im in a key right now shh

[proper roost]

That's the other thing

You type the entire key like

And then you're like "uhhuh how am i missing GCDs"

[red ferry]

true

[proper roost]

Because you're typing dumbass 💀 i literally died multiple times in keys last night cuz you were busy yapping and not paying any attention to the key

[red ferry]

twice

[undone beacon]

Twice is multiple times

[red ferry]

thats true

[undone beacon]

Don’t die to the keyboard boss

Just play the game

[mighty valley]

twice is multi fuck pash wins the quick draw

[undone beacon]

lmao

[coarse bay]

Oi i lied last night, apparently i couldnt see the log because it was looking for a log on my other mage

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dHzarq76FwLA1bkV?fight=25&type=summary

Oh nvm thats your log

I thought u said u werent logging

[proper roost]

like

90% of keys last night was like having a northernlion stream up with how much yapping was going on except instead of funny yapping it was just whining

just play the game!!

pay attention!

[red ferry]

were we not having fun

[proper roost]

guy is like "uhhuuh i messed up last pull i'm thinking about what i messed up" middle of actively not paying attention to current existing pull

[red ferry]

oh

thats true

LOL

Wait that actually did happen

[undone beacon]

even if they were having fun Kanga will never admit it

[red ferry]

i remember it

[undone beacon]

brother

[red ferry]

hi

[grim pilot]

i was gaslighted for the past few days

ive been told a friend sent me some gold

i made a ticket

he didnt

[mighty valley]

khailby you know how i keep talking about trying to focus on one thing to improve on

[red ferry]

yea

[grim pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-gif-small-cat-tiny-cat-gif-25768449

[red ferry]

pressing revenge less

[mighty valley]

i think we're gonna have to have an arc where the one thing to focus on is focusing on one thing

[red ferry]

damn

[proper roost]

just lock tf in bro stop typing in keys and look at the next pull instead of whining about the last one wowee

💀

[undone beacon]

focus on the gameplay and do a postmortem

you can download Warcraft Recorder and look at replays of runs if you want

[proper roost]

like 99% of the time people asking for advice need to give more info for a well rounded answer

this 1% you need to just shut up and play the game

[red ferry]

:chatting:

+2d the key btw

[mighty valley]

woulda +3d it if you had focused up

[red ferry]

true and real

[mighty valley]

you are getting better, you just need to hate yourself less and play more

[proper roost]

And stop blaming other peoples' advice or w/e for being conflicting

Everyone has different advice cuz everyone improves differently

[red ferry]

i dont blame it

[proper roost]

and plays differently

[red ferry]

it just confuses me

[proper roost]

Yes you do

[red ferry]

no

i point it out

because it confuses me

i never said its why im failing

thats not blaming it

[proper roost]

Stop pinging nome or saying XYZ person said XYZ differing opinion

That's an excuse

Just use your brain

And listen to the justification they give for their opinion, not just the opinion

Like use 1 ounce of reading comprehension for the why and not the what

[mighty valley]

that's a classic pattern tho

the "i'm hard stuck in keys, maybe if i switched to brutal vitality" posters

man they've taken that choice node from us

that was 50% of last year's chat

[proper roost]

it's the consequence of 45% adult illiteracy in the US

functional illiteracy is only being able to read what and not being able to figure out why

[mighty valley]

it's also just gamer anxiety

remember khailby's first spiral was which race to play

[red ferry]

im outside my element

see if you had a question on gene therapy vectors

or on bats

that would be an easy solve

[mighty valley]

did your finals go well do you think

[proper roost]

obligatory

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-me-trying-to-find-who-asked-spongebob-spunch-bob-gif-22526294

[grim pilot]

Or spiders

[red ferry]

biology yes

math was a high B but it couldnt save my grade from being a B

bombed the hell out of spanish

[mighty valley]

it's ok the us government is hoping to do the same soon

[red ferry]

damn

i wrote a term paper on lizards for biology

[proper roost]

I think people who have anxiety should just not. brain chemical skill issue

[mighty valley]

damn you should open a therapy office

you've solved it

[proper roost]

if people have a fear of heights, you throw them off a cliff

if they survive, they're cured
if they don't, they'll never have that problem again

👍

[coarse bay]

Which he regrets now btw, i remember telling him dwarves ugly and now he agrees

This guy wanted to delete his warrior to start a new one in lemix because he likes his name

[red ferry]

cammy also plays a half naked void elf

his fashion sense is skewed

[mighty valley]

we all said "play the one you think is cool and hot" and he refused to accept the wisdom

[coarse bay]

Tbf i made that mage because my first 3 vaults on my main this tier were all junk

So i was hollowed and ready to start anew

[red ferry]

lfr things

[mighty valley]

have you done lfr dimensius yet

[red ferry]

no

[mighty valley]

guessing that's hell at this point in the season

[coarse bay]

Actually nvm my other mage is half naked too

[red ferry]

does dimmy have an enrage in lfr even

if not it cant be that bad

[proper roost]

u just have to forge yourself in the fires of hell that was LFG razsageth

then, you can surpass anything

[mighty valley]

man that was so fun

it felt like raid leading kindergarten

i guess the main thing with dimmy was the random portal click wipes which they mostly fixed

[coarse bay]

I never tried any lfr mfo

Heard horror stories

[red ferry]

are warrants like

buggy

it says i need 3 pieces to do the warrant

but the quest to get the third piece

gone

[coarse bay]

Just do m+ and/or raid

[proper roost]

i should probably do lfr later today

agonizing

[red ferry]

i think my dwarf looks pretty cool

[mighty valley]

it's the desperation "tier hasn't dropped anywhere else for me" play at the start of the season

even though the odds of getting it there are astronomically low

[proper roost]

i still don't understand why they moved away from personal loot as a system for at least lfr

i think i must have missed some explanation notes somewhere on that one

[mighty valley]

i think the move away from personal loot is all kinda heady game design reasons that do make sense

but make most players mad when they read it

so they didn't loudly explain it

[proper roost]

what was the actual reason

I mean, ultimately if you even half care you just like, find a casual aotc guild and scoop tier there but

[mighty valley]

it's a fakey gamey system with a lot of rules that are hidden from view

that either created weird incentives when you understood them (armor stacking etc)

or feelsbad moments when you don't know why you can't trade etc

(those still exist though sooooooo)

[coarse bay]

There was so much outrage about personal loot

[proper roost]

I marginally follow the thing about guilds armor stacking, but it's honestly weird to make the vast majority of casual experience worse because a tiny few sweaty guilds abuse it for tier early

[coarse bay]

Idk i remember that everyone was against it

[mighty valley]

i think personal loot might be the right play for LFR but that's like fixing a bad thing with a bad thing

[coarse bay]

When did they stop doing reroll tokens? Was it when they added raid to the vault?

[mighty valley]

when you're actually playing with people you like, it sucks to be assigned a piece of gear that isn't useful for you but also can't be traded to anyone

[coarse bay]

I dont remember if it existed in bfa

[mighty valley]

reroll tokens went away with the great vault, which was shadowlands

they were around in bfa

[coarse bay]

Thats what i thought

I miss that

You had something you wanted you got two chances to loot

2 drops of 149 gold hits hard

[mighty valley]

lmao yeah i did not enjoy the system

doing my chores for the week to get my tokens, only to miss twice

[proper roost]

what do i look up for the 675 crafts for the season

those are the non-spark ones right

think i might have to buy a token to afford being able to catchup some gear

[mighty valley]

uhhh yeah i guess just look up the slot in the crafting orders list

and it's the one that you can't spark

[coarse bay]

It’s the green items for the slot i think

[proper roost]

actually, no reason not to just send all base ilvl spark crafts rn no?

aren't we late enough into the season there are a bajillion sparks on catchup

[coarse bay]

There should be ya

[undone beacon]

Unless you care about the cost of the crafting mats, go for it

[proper roost]

not particularly if a token can cover like 8 slots

[undone beacon]

Just need to farm valorstones and get enough acuity to recraft

[proper roost]

er

the acuity is for the crafters innit

doesn't affect me? (getting it commissioned)

i only engaged with this system in DF so I don't really know how it changed from mettle -> acuity

but mettle was like effectively infinite by end of the xpac in df so..

no wait you need to supply it
frick
how the fuck you get acuity. why did they make recrafts painful

[red ferry]

Kanga

Do not craft this late in the season

thats what i was told

You wont make ur money back

[proper roost]

What? You are completely confusing the two things

[red ferry]

Which two

didnt you say you wanted to craft catchup gear

[proper roost]

Leveling a crafting profession =/= Getting gear crafted

[red ferry]

Ohhh

[proper roost]

They changed the profession system entirely last xpac, you can/should/supposed to commission crafts from other people

[red ferry]

thats pretty cool

[proper roost]

as far as i can see, base crafts are ilvl 691

which is... fine, I guess. better than the 642s i have on

[mighty valley]

there's the weird matrix items that boost the ilvl of the base crafts

i have no idea where those come from

[undone beacon]

You get 5 acuity per profession knowledge point earned

It fucking sucks tbh

Mettle was plentiful, acuity is scarce

[undone beacon]

Thought you could just buy those with gold from a vendor but I'd have to check

[proper roost]

that's dumb

but it looks like i should be more than fine, because i'm only playing last season - can just cash in on the one-time acuity

it would have been bad if i needed to recraft s1, and s2, and now

if u can figure out what the matrix things u guys are talking about, i would be grateful

691 is kinda shit

[undone beacon]

Looks like the Matrix items were only for the non-spark gear

So 691 is the highest you can craft it without throwing crests in

[proper roost]

meh

that's still fine

people did +10s with 680 from last season, 691 in 10 slots or whatever is more than sufficient to start pushing

[undone beacon]

Yeah for sure

No reason not to send the crafts

[proper roost]

surely it will not cost more than like 5k for a base spark 691 craft

and if it does i'll complain about my server being stingy fucks

[undone beacon]

Can also go shit on delves for easy champ gear and a hero piece

[proper roost]

ye was gonna do that later, just didn't really have time yesterday

Jesse, we need to do delves @red ferry

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/panical-itechcaptain-yoshiiisland-yoshiisland-weather-report-gif-26190663

[red ferry]

Ok

Right now?

[proper roost]

no i'm still at work

[undone beacon]

Kanga what do you do

[proper roost]

guess who has to do OT next week because of crimbo!!

[red ferry]

Kanga probably works in IT

[proper roost]

accounting

[red ferry]

northernlion
femtanyl
osrs player

I know what you are

[proper roost]

if i worked in IT i would actually just be playing wow rn

[red ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/treyreloaded-gif-25910669

[undone beacon]

accounting, brutal

[proper roost]

Why do you keep saying that, v weird

[red ferry]

its an inside joke among my friend group

[proper roost]

yeah next week is kinda shit cuz if i don't do OT no one gets paid over crimbo

[red ferry]

I guess it doesnt carry over very well

[proper roost]

[red ferry]

Is that legal

[undone beacon]

I do cybersecurity for a hospital network so I work regardless, its okay

I used to do IT sales and wanted to jump off a bridge

[proper roost]

wage theft is not legal

[red ferry]

Damn

do u have ur cpa

I knew a guy with a cpa

He made like 200k a year

it was wack

[undone beacon]

CPA - Cool Person Award

[red ferry]

Certified public accountant

Or something

[undone beacon]

wrong

cool person award

[proper roost]

Next year I think

but the main accountant i'm working under works like 60h weeks so not really looking forward to it

[proper roost]

yes i would recommend not acting like that to people who aren't terminally online losers

not that your friends are, i'm sure.

[red ferry]

surely

[mighty valley]

how do i get a normal job

[red ferry]

surely not

[mighty valley]

i'm sick of this creative shit

[red ferry]

(They have bluesky installed i think theyre too far gone)

[proper roost]

🔥

[red ferry]

(I cant save them)

[proper roost]

Idk your job sounded cool

But yeah I can understand

[undone beacon]

If you know how to operate the Microsoft suite of tools you can do better than 90% of IT Help Desk professionals, foot in the door to IT

[mighty valley]

everyone has fuckin OPINIONS about story

[proper roost]

was talking with another friend the other day about how freelancing sounds nightmarish with the job insecurity

[red ferry]

Well first you need to get a masters degree because a bachelors degree doesn’t qualify you for any jobs anymore

then after you get a masters degree

[undone beacon]

lol fuck that

[red ferry]

You need to submit 70 job applications a week

[mighty valley]

i have one of those... but it's in video game bullshit. and it's from britain

[red ferry]

You will get about 1 returned message every 700 apps sent

This will get you an interview

For each interview you get

[mighty valley]

ok that part's the same as video games jobs

[red ferry]

Youll need to get 100 before you move on to phase two

Then once you do that

[undone beacon]

Sadly the only way to get a job without wanting to brain yourself is to know a manager/executive somewhere lol

[red ferry]

you’re ready to work for minimum wage

At an entry level position

good luck champ

If you work well above your pay grade maybe youll even get an extra dollar per month

[undone beacon]

Khailby arent you like 12 or something

[red ferry]

Gl

[red ferry]

20

[mighty valley]

this is under the best economic system humanity can possibly come up with, yes? this is what i'm to understand?

[red ferry]

is this where you tell me the job market isnt remotely like that

At all

Because you’re 50

[undone beacon]

No I just always find it amusing when people muse on experiences they havent lived

[red ferry]

But am i wrong

[mighty valley]

he's right but he shouldn't say it (yet)

[red ferry]

but am i wrong pash

[proper roost]

Yes lol

[red ferry]

oh ok

[undone beacon]

I mean, you're def way hyperbolizing

[red ferry]

Yea

Such is the internet

[undone beacon]

Because all you've heard is people on reddit complaining

[red ferry]

but if i was being realistic

You can probably get a well paying job with no connections and only a high school diploma

Theres plenty of jobs

Its one of the two

[proper roost]

Wow. So wise

[undone beacon]

I put out probably 30 apps when i was looking to jump ship, got ~6 interviews, got a job without needing a masters degree that pays well. Lived experience, not saying thats the norm

[red ferry]

ya

[undone beacon]

Finding a job in the current market is mostly about who you know

[red ferry]

the job market is probably better than its been in 20 years in na

but reddit would disagree

[red ferry]

as it always is and always will be

[undone beacon]

Brother you've been alive for 20 years

[mighty valley]

well, up until the past six months or so

[proper roost]

this server was better when we just talked about food every day

[jagged gust]

Literally just work for the railway

[red ferry]

i say one thing and then you said i was wrong so i said another thing and you said i was wrong

When do i get to be right

Hello

Tell me the thing i have to say to be rivht

Guessing is exhausting

[proper roost]

i'm going to go get arepas

[mighty valley]

"sometimes you get job fast, sometimes you get job slow. sometimes inbetween. sometimes no job"

[red ferry]

With cheese?

[undone beacon]

You get to be right when you stop speculating on something you haven't touched outside of internet discourse silly

[red ferry]

hmmmm

when do we have a conversation on things I know

so i can be right then

That would be nice one of these days

[undone beacon]

It would be like if I started talking about the current state of accounting, Kanga would probably rip me apart

[red ferry]

Probably

[mighty valley]

ugh... the current state of accounting... am i right

[undone beacon]

me when accounting?!

[red ferry]

I’m just waiting for the day i get to rip into people for saying something wrong about a thing i know about

well technically

I had that the other day

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-taxes-calculating-math-work-gif-13531113

[red ferry]

this was an easy slam dunk

“Shut the fuck up”

[undone beacon]

chat is this real

[red ferry]

[jagged gust]

Is anything real?

[red ferry]

Im real

[jagged gust]

Lets ask Kanye

[red ferry]

real fucking tired of being alive

[mighty valley]

khailby are you a grungler

[red ferry]

whats a grungler

[jagged gust]

isnt that like maga 2.0

[mighty valley]

no

[red ferry]

what

[mighty valley]

that's groyper

[red ferry]

Whats a grungler

[mighty valley]

khailby is giving no groyper vibes at all

[red ferry]

Oh hey

[undone beacon]

This grungler Harrow?

[red ferry]

I’m the greg for my friend group

I have seen this post before

[mighty valley]

yeah, i think this is the og

[proper roost]

i literally could not care less about the details of what other people think of my job

as soon as i walk outside the door, my brain immediately removes all memory of inside office

[red ferry]

yea

Im a grungler

I think

[undone beacon]

Severance irl

[proper roost]

compartmentalizing is sick as hell

[red ferry]

Idk i kinda bumble around and people say i’m cool

[undone beacon]

Yesss this is the one

[proper roost]

yeah i did think of that right as i said it lmao

[jagged gust]

This sounds nice

[proper roost]

but real tho

the worst time in my life was when i was on call

[red ferry]

Is being a grungler bad

My friends told me it was good

[mighty valley]

no lmao you're fine

[undone beacon]

My work set-up is right next to my gaming rig so

[red ferry]

Hell yeah

Im grungling

[undone beacon]

Being a grungler isnt bad no

[red ferry]

Pashs character looks like a grungler

[undone beacon]

the MOOSE is LOOSE

[red ferry]

This dude gives major grungle energy

[jagged gust]

2AM trouble call: "We need you to drive 200 miles east because everyone else in a 500 mile radius has already timed out their 16 hours overtime max for the day"

[mighty valley]

it's barely a real thing, you've just referred to your more-queer-than-you group of friends a bunch of times and it made me chuckle

[red ferry]

yes

Theyre better than me

at everything

I want to play mtg

[mighty valley]

oh you're fucked

that's their realm

[red ferry]

Someone goes “oh yeah i played that lets 1v1”

And then

I’m up against rdw

[undone beacon]

mtg ftw

[red ferry]

Fuckin rush down decks man

[undone beacon]

literally reviewing a friends mutate edh build rn

[red ferry]

Edh

erm

Oh god

[mighty valley]

mutate... the sickest mechanic they'll never do again

[red ferry]

If i share this i might look like a freak

[proper roost]

god u guys are all fucking nerds

[red ferry]

But i think ive soent over 13000 dollars on mtg

[proper roost]

can u go outside and touch grass

literally ever

[red ferry]

Can u

[undone beacon]

Because it gave everyone a fucking aneurysm when it came out lmao

[red ferry]

Fuckin

Accojntant

Ur inside al day

With a calculator

[jagged gust]

I spend more on that a year buying fast food ngl

[undone beacon]

get back to accounting, accounter

[red ferry]

grunglecounter

[undone beacon]

I put 5 grunglecounters on your Khailby and give it warriortouch

[proper roost]

Unironically the least effective set of insults ever

"you have to look at spreadsheets to live" wowee

[mighty valley]

i don't think we'll ever find the insults that affect kanga

AT field too strong

[undone beacon]

Kanga too indoctrinated by big finance to be affected

[jagged gust]

I bet his shoulders are too wide and he got narrow hips

[mighty valley]

*her

[undone beacon]

Kanga i hope your accounts dont get accounted

bam

[proper roost]

it just makes u want to destroy capitalism

which makes you feel based as hell

[mighty valley]

most things do

[red ferry]

WAIT

DROP EVERYTHINGN

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jvXIHiL0pbtapYAV2tkjrbxY99TYKHFu6hyjqR_tqFE/%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fvideo.twimg.com%252Famplify_video%252F2001711342793691137%252Fvid%252Favc1%252F720x1280%252F8dC7UTfLcRmxRmue.mp4%253Ftag%253D14/https/api.fxtwitter.com/2/go

NEW ONE OF THESE

SHE MADE ANOTHER

[undone beacon]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/15c6a9defa302d346720dd67497595c2/e3d04335426e1d92-c7/s400x600/512e02b37db14c14ae0f8eaa036268cbe93b6ef0.gif

[red ferry]

Pash log on

Come dps this key as feral

[mighty valley]

this person is new to me but i enjoyed this

[undone beacon]

I'll dps as survival

Feral makes me sadge

[red ferry]

thats not a druid…

[undone beacon]

I was a hunter main from vanilla through DF

invite me if you want

[red ferry]

https://adoptle.org

Hold on

Wordle but

[undone beacon]

Pashalik-Zul'jin

[red ferry]

You guess the names

Of the rescue pets

🥹

[red ferry]

One second

[proper roost]

i feel like anyone who's mained tank or done high keys a lot will naturally have thick skin

u cant really insult nome, what are u gonna do, call him bald

[red ferry]

Uhh

[undone beacon]

@strong forum bald

[red ferry]

Idk what he looks like

[proper roost]

everyone balds who cares

[red ferry]

But i think hes eu

Is that an insult

[proper roost]

yeah holy shit he might not be in financial ruins when he has a minor medical problem

take that!!

[undone beacon]

hah loser

no bootstraps to pull

[red ferry]

@undone beacon im going to the gym ill inv you in like 2 hours

[proper roost]

all this to say khailby keeps trying to find a way to be mean and it's very pathetic

[red ferry]

YOU SAID I NEED TO BE TOUGHER

[proper roost]

maybe one day

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-sad-gif-11498011059624046168

[red ferry]

Gotta achieve the irl kul tiran build

[mighty valley]

you can be tougher and not mean

[strong forum]

no you

[undone beacon]

https://media.tenor.com/TfOHjPbSHhsAAAAj/glorp-angry.gif

[strong forum]

[coarse bay]

Soft

[proper roost]

Like me

That's what I do

[mighty valley]

now hold on there pardner

[proper roost]

[red ferry]

some guy didnt put the weights back in the right order

[mighty valley]

bonus workout for u

[coarse bay]

You cant even work out at the gym without yapping in here

[undone beacon]

go work out nerd

[proper roost]

lmao

i'm telling u

[jagged gust]

#arms day

[tribal wharf]

dont summon tier 2 mega bonk boss at 4 minutes if you arent ready for him

had alot of the items i wante

[undone beacon]

is that game fun

was looking at it

[proper roost]

i did not enjoy it

do you like vampire survivors

wait, weren't you the risk of rain 2 poggers guy

you might enjoy it

[tribal wharf]

one of the big reasons i like it is that you can jump

[mighty valley]

you can do that in real life

[proper roost]

big if true

What's the lore of jumping

[undone beacon]

i am that risk of rain 2 poggers guy

just finished a Railgunner Eclipse run

[proper roost]

Yeah idk you might like mindless bullshit

[undone beacon]

love me some mindless bullshit

[proper roost]

You can just play like 2h and see if you enjoy it

i refunded it after like an hour

[undone beacon]

Yeah I might give it a whirl

Plus theres the steam winter sale going on so, low risk investment

[proper roost]

Hear me out

abiotic factor

[undone beacon]

I legit know nothing about abiotic factor

[proper roost]

do you know anything about half life and/or opinions on it

[undone beacon]

I am entirely ambivalent towards half life

[proper roost]

ok

i'm tired so i can't give the spiel again

[undone beacon]

just give me three words

three word summary

[proper roost]

best i can do is 5 words

[undone beacon]

I'll take it

[proper roost]

scp/control-esque (one word), atmosphere, v unique (also one word) survival crafter

the last 2 words are NOT a downside

u just have to believe me on that one

that's a shit sell sentence man i'm too eepy for this

[undone beacon]

lmfao

I'll give it a once over after work

[proper roost]

but like

have you ever played control

if you haven't, just ignore everything i said and go play control

[undone beacon]

this one right?

[proper roost]

if you have, just remember the feeling of exploring the oldest house

[undone beacon]

I bought it like 6 months ago and havent installed it yet

[proper roost]

game gives that exact feeling

Ok

Shut up and play that this winter

[undone beacon]

Guess I know what im doing with my weekend

[red ferry]

how do bdk even play the game there is zero mobility to this

[proper roost]

Its rly fucking good

[undone beacon]

Thats what I've heard!

I'll give it a whirl

Is it a game that I should stay strictly sober for

[proper roost]

Nah it's not like some quake type shit

I would not smoke while playing it that seems like a really good way to have a bad time

[undone beacon]

Noted, noted

[proper roost]

It's very unsettling/weird horror (no jumpscares or anything)

mostly atmospheric

But you have a gun and powers, it isn't silent hill

[undone beacon]

Okay, I can fuck with that

We innit

[coarse bay]

What do you mean

Dont tell me you started another alt

[red ferry]

i wanted to fill my warband homepage screen

[mighty valley]

dks can't move but also the game can't move them

[red ferry]

so i had to do like 2 quests in lemix

[mighty valley]

balances out

[red ferry]

and they cant move

[coarse bay]

Instead of going pack to pack like warrior, you would blood boil while passing by any packs to where youre planting, and then you pull from range by gripping casters or the ranged boneshield ability

[red ferry]

bdk gets to pull from range?

i wish warrior got to pull from range

[mighty valley]

death grip

[red ferry]

[mighty valley]

yes well you get to leap across the screen

[red ferry]

thats true

but if you leap into a pack

ur playing wrong

smile

[mighty valley]

you can charge into one pack then leap into another

[coarse bay]

Warriors have the best mobility for tanks imo but the worst pulling capability

[red ferry]

no

[mighty valley]

yeah if no one's helping you out with ranged interrupts it's frustrating

[red ferry]

well

dont think im supposed to

every time i lept into a pack it gave kanga a stroke

[coarse bay]

You dont leap into the MIDDLE of a pack

[mighty valley]

yeah you don't leap into the middle of it

[coarse bay]

You need all enemies in front of you for block

Remember how u chose warrior because of shield

[red ferry]

ya

[coarse bay]

Shield only blocks in front

[red ferry]

dang

[coarse bay]

All tanks should keep enemies in front

[mighty valley]

yeah like, if you're pulling three disparate packs, you've got two charges and a leap

to get you to the edge of each pack

[coarse bay]

And u side strafe instead of turning your back to get to the next packs

[proper roost]

He was complaining the entire night about how archer-type mobs would stand outside of groups

and saying that DG was incredible

[coarse bay]

It is

[proper roost]

[red ferry]

actually

[coarse bay]

Thats why u invite a dps dk

[red ferry]

i believe how that interaction went was

"doesnt death knight get a grab ability"

silence

"hey kanga i genuinely dont remember"

"dk has a grab thing right"

silence

??

[proper roost]

Sorry yes he kept asking whether or not death grip as an ability existed and I didn't answer because I could feel my brain cells dying in real time

It wa skind of like if you did like 10 whippets in a row

[red ferry]

least rude kanga social decision btw

[coarse bay]

Lmao

[proper roost]

while being tortured

[red ferry]

kanga says tanks need to be more like her btw

[coarse bay]

In most situations you can move the pack onto the archers/shooters

And should

[red ferry]

apparently this is what i should aspire to

smile

[proper roost]

confident
cool
good at the game

[red ferry]

[proper roost]

✅✅✅

[red ferry]

can we get vc kanga in prot chat please

vc kanga was better

[coarse bay]

Are you grinding keys khailby

[red ferry]

ya

just +1d a 4

playing with no routes is kinda hard tho but it is what it is

[coarse bay]

When are you aspiring to move up from 4s

[red ferry]

uhhhh

when i figure out an addon that marks my pulls for me

[coarse bay]

You kinda just have to do it

There is none

Just remember

[red ferry]

1984

[hollow patio]

Just press w and pull what's in front of you

[red ferry]

TRUE

[coarse bay]

No

Bad advice

The pulls he was doing were pretty demonic

[hollow patio]

Press S and pull what's behind you?

[red ferry]

yea they were really small

i felt bad

we were going so slow

[coarse bay]

On priory you pulled 2nd mini boss with the knight pat and 2 more packs

[red ferry]

yea

[coarse bay]

There was like 5 sharp shooters

A knight

[red ferry]

threechest says i was supposed to have

[coarse bay]

And a miniboss

[red ferry]

4 packs

on that

[coarse bay]

Threechest is bad

[red ferry]

oh

[tribal wharf]

i will come back to wow if we can have shield stampede from stone vault

[coarse bay]

No matter what, you need to understand the pulls a little

[hollow patio]

He didn't pull on the boss so I don't see the problem

[tribal wharf]

all is forgiven

[coarse bay]

You’ll get there with time, but you’ll have to understand the limitations of your team and pull based on that

[tribal wharf]

like how the should have given warrior dragon charge for pve in df

[coarse bay]

Like limiting sharpshooters and casters

[proper roost]

he doesn't have party frames at all

(and none of the garbage players here will recognize why thats terrible)

[red ferry]

alright kanga

im doing a +6

watch me slam it

[proper roost]

he kept asking you why you would pull around dps cooldowns

[hollow patio]

"limitations of your team" sounds like a team problem. Team just to weak

[coarse bay]

Sounds like a way to get blacklisted

[proper roost]

I would say I used all my healing cds on 1 pull and then he'd immediately triple pull the next pack

[undone beacon]

wtf I said I’d do keys with you >:(

[red ferry]

ok

pash

log on

watch me stream this key first tho

[undone beacon]

wowowowow

[red ferry]

pash get in

you said so right

[tribal wharf]

if there is anybody you need to respect in the key it is the healer

[hollow patio]

Sounds like healer propaganda

[tribal wharf]

cuz if not it goes to hell

[coarse bay]

Youre at a key level where there is no threat to your life, you need to play around what the team can survive

[red ferry]

dudes on keystone.guru will be like "simple" and the first pull is 5 packs and a 4 mile walk

[round pendant]

That is simple

[mellow bridge]

(that's every key)

[mellow bridge]

you literally press W for 5 seconds and you have all of those packs

[coarse bay]

You walk up to and thunderclap the first footmen, then leap out and charge the knight

[tribal wharf]

well put it this way @red ferry , what is the keystone in this current rotation that you absolutely know the best how it works and you enjoy it, go run that key on a 10 or 15 or 20 or whatever the new weekly vault amount is, other users on the dicord will know what i mean by this