protection

[jagged pier]

like your just playing the class fundementally wrong

no wonder your dying to melee

[sharp merlin]

Nah nah - it's the healer's fault, remember?

[jagged pier]

these are my casts from the same key and same key lvl

[sharp merlin]

Wait where is this? I see 100% to Environment on mine

[jagged pier]

like i have nearly 20 more VB in a 2 min short dungeon like pres buttons

[jagged pier]

damage taken -> hover over the meless hits comlun

[sharp merlin]

omg..

it's so high LOL

[jagged pier]

what?

[jagged pier]

<@&257983573498265600>

[oblique garnet]

Huh

[jagged pier]

u late

[ionic fern]

Huh

[jagged pier]

der was scammer

[stone tundra]

Ja er wars

[pulsar epoch]

guys how hard to tank myth araz-fract ?

[jagged pier]

ez

they are not hard bosses at all

[jagged pier]

<@&257983573498265600>

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[jagged pier]

2 scammer in 1 day

[fathom oasis]

Idk where I saw it, but some Discord servers have bait channels, that are public and not to be used by anyone.

If anyone ever types there they get autobooted from the server

[oblique garnet]

Its bots

[fathom oasis]

I found it a bit silly but it's probably effective

[indigo hawk]

Look like there is a bug with shield charge, I use it on cd and my logs say that I used it only 2 Times on a key…

[sharp merlin]

yeah, just checked mine too, it doesn't appear I send any

[jagged pier]

it only counts if u caat it at range on logs

[sharp merlin]

Also - sometimes, rarely, if I hit Shield Charge, it doesn't give me any SB at all

and then i'm in an awkward situation where I'm frantically pressing SB to get it back up

I think it might be if the target isn't on the same elevation as me (on stairs etc)

It happened on the Stage boss during Streets, where he was running to the stage, and didn't hit him whilst he was still running over

[mellow bridge]

<@&257983573498265600>

[oblique garnet]

[ionic fern]

[shadow basalt]

Do Protection Warriors have any stat targets for Mythic raiding that they want to hit? E.g. I know for example Vengeance Demon Hunters want at least 21k haste for I think Demon Spikes uptime etc.

[jagged pier]

we have none

[limpid sapphire]

This is my logs right ?

[jagged pier]

no replied to your logs earlier

[limpid sapphire]

What am I doing wrong?

[unreal yarrow]

Scroll up

[jagged pier]

no tracking buffs, no pressing buttons/ pressing the wrong buttons, wasting rage the usual

[limpid sapphire]

I'm not playing this tsar then according to what you said

I'm open to suggestions to play better

[sharp merlin]

[lusty grotto]

[frosty mango]

Post in #1347646810457636974 you’ll get consolidated feedback

[sick sentinel]

Screams shit or lowkey good, no idea how good it is at all, m+

[lusty grotto]

have you looked at our wowhead guide

[sick sentinel]

nope

[lusty grotto]

well do so

and also dps only trinkets have a tank penalty

which is why they go down in tiers

[sick sentinel]

I stick with these then

[vagrant echo]

Any special SR in mythic raid?

[lusty grotto]

the sheet is pinned

and in #protection-faq

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto
Screams shit or lowkey good, no idea how good it is at all, m+

[lusty grotto]

for fury? im using it for raid its pretty solid but its not arcanocore

errr a mythic arcanocore

[dusky canopy]

😂

It’s who ya know not what ya know

[lusty grotto]

this is the protection channel though

[dusky canopy]

It’s just because you ❤️ me

I know

[lusty grotto]

and i did say for fury

[dusky canopy]

Screams is bad in M+ too

It’s a single target trinket

[lusty grotto]

sure

[dusky canopy]

Did you have a nice weekend?

[lusty grotto]

rainy as fuck

[dusky canopy]

Me too!

Stood in line for 2hours at a fall festival to get a caricature drawn of my wife and I

She insisted on getting this done

[lusty grotto]

was it worth it

[dusky canopy]

😂

The guy did a pretty good job ye

[lusty grotto]

i kinda like those caricatures, theyre pretty cool

[dusky canopy]

I sure as hell wouldn’t have waited that long on my own but wife wanted it

[lusty grotto]

i get that

[dusky canopy]

Also packers beat Steelers so that was cool

Not really a big football nut but watching the rivalry was cool master qb vs his protégé

[frosty mango]

Do you have kids

Standing relative still for 2 hours screams no kids

[dusky canopy]

Yes

[frosty mango]

I can’t imagine waiting 2 hours for anything

Kids wouldn’t make it 30 minutes

[dusky canopy]

They were off doing fun

While we waited in line

[frosty mango]

You really love your wife eh

[lusty grotto]

wait brew

you have kids?

[dusky canopy]

Indeed 😂

[dusky canopy]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

this is new lore for me

[frosty mango]

How many kids
How old

[dusky canopy]

My dumbass is raising two more hoodlums to enter society yes

[frosty mango]

We need to know!

[dusky canopy]

Imagine

I’m not going to say much about my kids online other than yes I have some

[frosty mango]

I showed my daughter where I grew up and she said it was scary and she didn’t know I was actually poor

[frosty mango]

You passed cybersecurity 101

@undone beacon give him his certificate

[lusty grotto]

@dusky canopy whats your ssn

[frosty mango]

What’s your mothers maiden name

[dusky canopy]

123-45-6789

[dusky canopy]

Balls

[frosty mango]

It’s missing a digit

[lusty grotto]

[frosty mango]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-pc-meme-matrix-codes-gif-11310648121341593764

[dusky canopy]

🤣

[sinful copper]

He doesn't even know how many digits are in ssn

[frosty mango]

Now on to serious questions

Do I eat chili for lunch

[sinful copper]

Yes

[frosty mango]

Do I make chop cheese

[dusky canopy]

I mean hey in the modern era people can track you down eventually if they lurk around you long enough but it’s still one of those things where you tread lightly as much as you can help it anyway

Chili for lunch sounds fire

‘Tis fall season

[frosty mango]

I’ve been scrubbed from the internets besides my LinkedIn and you know it was a lot harder than I thought

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-shit-i-am-okay-close-my-eyes-typing-computer-gif-17932588

[sinful copper]

And what was your LinkedIn profile link again? I forgot

[dusky canopy]

Dude it really is insane how much people share without even realizing

[frosty mango]

Peep this glistening cheesesteak I made last night with a prime ribeye I found in the freezer

[lusty grotto]

thanks guys now im hungry

[frosty mango]

Honestly Google was the worst

They by far had the most

[dusky canopy]

“I love to eat lunch at this place it has really great food” uploads photo with street sign off in the distance boom you’re cooked

[frosty mango]

Facebook was surprisingly easy I just clicked the button and my stuff was deleted

[lusty grotto]

how did you do it roid

yeah i nuked my facebook like 8 years ago

[frosty mango]

Uh I used a service through work

[sinful copper]

Do u work for the CIA or something

[frosty mango]

No

But if I did would I say yes?

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[sinful copper]

True

Ok serious question, when I do first pull of halls and there are 2 gargons left with 25% hp, can I just jump down or will it likely pull slasher on the stairs?

[frosty mango]

It will not pull

They will go down the hill not the stairs

[pallid quiver]

Depending on job responsibility, yes

[sinful copper]

Not even if I'm with some dumb pet classes that will chase it and attack?

[frosty mango]

Well then sometimes yes

[lusty grotto]

yeah the pets will agro it

[sinful copper]

Oh

[undone beacon]

Congratulations you’re now cyber 101 certified

[sinful copper]

But if no pets, then I'm good? I can check if it's stoneform too I guess

[frosty mango]

Yes and yes

[lusty grotto]

sure

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberattack-gif-20679812

[frosty mango]

You used to be able to blow them off the platform but they changed it

Rude

[sinful copper]

I tried getting #1 prot warrior on my little server but the top guy keeps ahead of me by 50 io every day. It's so depressing

[frosty mango]

Maybe he sees you and he’s like “who tf is this guy”

[sinful copper]

Maybe actually. That'd be so funny

[frosty mango]

and you guys are locked in a battle

And at the end of the season you’ll both be like 4500 IO

[sinful copper]

I've been chasing him since 3400 and we're 3600 now

But he timed a 19 gambit yesterday

I think he's just too good. Need to wait for him to quit the game

[dusky canopy]

I just stopped at +15s

Ez life

[sinful copper]

No, I need to pass this guy!!

But I'm worried i can't time 19s now rofl

Anyone know how to do audio triggers for tank busters like gloom bite or proximity strike with DBM?

Or is my only option to switch to bigwigs?

[frosty mango]

You can do it with an aura

But dbm would be easier

[sinful copper]

Surely some tank has audio cues in a WA already and I don't have to make one from scratch right?

[frosty mango]

Combat log event
Any
Spell or cast (Id would be better)

Most people use the causee set

I don’t bc its too big but most people do

[coarse bay]

Ya causese does it

[lusty grotto]

you can also set them up through dbm

well

dungeon dbm i guess

i change sounds in bigwigs for mine

[sinful copper]

There's a dungeon DBM vs regular DBM?

[lusty grotto]

for like 2 expansions ago

same with bigwigs (its littlewigs)

[sinful copper]

oh wait i have the dungeon DBM already but when i typed /dbm in game, it didn't show me any options for adding audio cues. maybe it's a diff command to get into the dungeon one

[lusty grotto]

no

its the same /dbm

it just its its options inside of it

if its anything like bigwigs

[sinful copper]

oh i see it now. i dont ever remember hearing anything though when it was casting...

[obtuse egret]

Anyone ever had some kind of aggro reset bug on third boss HOA? Just had my DH rip aggro on all mobs and boss, about 12 seconds into the pull, after I had just used AOE taunt kick and was pumping 9M dps

[lusty grotto]

this is why logs are useful

[obtuse egret]

I have them, how would I check?

[lusty grotto]

check if he used taunt 🙂

and if not, then check the disparity in dps

or you can just link it here and i can check rq

[sinful copper]

Did you have a shaman with earth ele? Sometimes the threat resets after it dies and DPS can get it

[lusty grotto]

uhhh what

no it doesnt

[obtuse egret]

there was one, so maybe?

[lusty grotto]

the ele taunts

[sinful copper]

I've seen weird stuff with it before on DPS side before

[lusty grotto]

theres no threat reset

[sinful copper]

Where I ripped threat instantly after earth ele died so iunno

As dps

[lusty grotto]

nah

[nocturne spindle]

i wouldnt be suprised if there was like

a dumb ledge or something standing on an anima thing

that put you in a reset spot

[lusty grotto]

that i can believe

[obtuse egret]

or that yeah, there was one mob late to enter the room as well

[lusty grotto]

that wouldnt matter

do you have the log?

link it

[warm plinth]

The mob being late entering the room makes me think an evade bug happened similar to what happens in the last room of AK when flyers come in mid-pull

[obtuse egret]

getting it from friend now

[warm plinth]

Which causes everything to momentarily evade and drops aggro on everything

[lusty grotto]

yeah maybe ghash

thats kind of what Weeshy suggested

or similar at least

[nocturne spindle]

either way theres no regular agro issue

they either hit taunt or jank geometry

[warm plinth]

Yeah, I would agree with that

[lusty grotto]

Or an insane gap in dps

[frosty mango]

Aren’t there only 4 bosses and the last boss has no adds

Nvm about 4 bosses misread someone’s comment. But third boss has no adds

Do you mean trash you pulled into it?

[dusky canopy]

It sounds like he drug the mobs at the bottom of the steps up to the boss

[frosty mango]

Oh

[dusky canopy]

And then he did his burst to start the encounter and the DH somehow pulled aggro

12 seconds in

[frosty mango]

If you pull trash to you before the mobs are on the stairs they will try to go through the floor and evade bug

Then they can snap and clap

I’ve seen it a couple times but not often….maybe twice this season?

[obtuse egret]

Yeah the 4 dudes at the bottom of stairs

unfortunate

[frosty mango]

Yea I think if they aren’t on the stairs and you pull the boss, and the gate goes up, they try to come thru the floor and evade bug

[hybrid gust]

isnt rally cry bad in M+

[frosty mango]

Don’t quote me on that but the few times I’ve seen it, its always been where mobs weren’t in the stairs

[frosty mango]

No, relatively speaking its much better in m+

Just recognize that its not mitigation but a 10% heal to save someone

[sinful copper]

thoughts on this route? can i time 18/19s with it?

[coarse bay]

You could get funnel on last boss while team grabs the haste buff

[sinful copper]

only need it if i have a havoc dh right?

arcane doesnt rly get much funnel anymore this season, right?

[coarse bay]

Still has funnel, even if it isnt as much as it used to be

Just a small efficiency thing

[sinful copper]

ok the route is good for an 18. we try for 19 later

[tribal wharf]

name

[lusty grotto]

ok yogi

[tribal wharf]

im serious

KB at least

mouse might be a bridge too far

or like, some shit that you can type into the game from your phone, i assume many will just use discord voice like normal

[lusty grotto]

pretty sure both ps5 and xbox can use kb+m

already

thats how people play ffxiv

and chat

[tribal wharf]

i am team xbox even though the console war is iover

and i know deeply about xbox cant move me on this one, u can use KB,

mouse is.... not really...

i've tried

[lusty grotto]

well im sure they'll work on something

[tribal wharf]

on a series x or something, i have no idea, but i have been doing this many many times since 2005 ish when i got xbox 360

so i know this inside out and backwards

[lusty grotto]

do you mean mouse for games? because im pretty sure it works for the menus

its weird because ive done KB+M on games in ps5

[tribal wharf]

unironically the best kb for typing short messages

because its so compact messages are lightning fast type

[lusty grotto]

sure, but you can use bluetooth or usb KB+M

[tribal wharf]

blue tooth i don't knoww... cuz i know on xbox any controllers that have wireless, MS likes to make things tiny bit different

[lusty grotto]

nah they use bluetooth

all controllers nowadays use bluetooth

[tribal wharf]

so, i have 5 xbox series controlers, but i cant use them wirelessly cuz i need a SPECIAL wireless dongle

and like working on a hdd for a 360, u have to it in fatx formatted, and thats like basically the only device on earth that uses fatX

needs its own special tool just to poke around with that type of formating

[lusty grotto]

360 is old

im talking about current age consoles

current gen*

[jagged pier]

or think about it this way ppl have been playing wow for years with a controller anyway

so just use a controller

[tribal wharf]

360, one, and series all cant connect to a PC with just standard BT dongle

i've tried, or it was intermitment

[lusty grotto]

360 one i get

[tribal wharf]

litterally just DRM for console controllers

its as dumb as it sounds

[lusty grotto]

but series xbox i dont

cause both ps4 and ps5 AS WELL as switch 1 AND 2 controllers work plug and play

ps4 usually had a bit of problems

but with the drivers they work fine

[tribal wharf]

its some shit like, you have to get BT v 4.0 4.1 or 5.0

[lusty grotto]

ps3 did give me issues

yeah i mean that makes sense

just buy a little BT 5.0 dongle

[tribal wharf]

but, 5.0 is like a 5090

useless to most

they could use 5080 5070

something about i think BT5.0's true purpose is for many multiple surround sounds, like 8.1+ speaker set up

i have a better idea

it goes hand in hand with another idea i have, about the 1 button rotation

if you are using either, it displays to group

[lusty grotto]

they said they wouldnt do that

cause it opens up bullying

[frosty mango]

Because they had limited hardware performance issues and ms designed fatx specifically for the Xbox to boost performance capability without increasing the cost of the console

[dusky canopy]

The next gen Xbox can run WoW but it doesn’t say controller support

It could still require M&K

[nocturne spindle]

yea people are being idiots on the internet and not reading it

its just that xbox wont even have a unique OS and is literally a windows skin

so people extrapolated to WOW ON XBOX

[dusky canopy]

Smart click bait

Gotta hand it to em

[nocturne spindle]

the quote even says microsoft office on xbox too

like

its a nothing burger

are they designing wow to be on console? more likely than not

is this the smoking gun? not quite

[frosty mango]

The next gen Xbox is literally a pc

Of course wow will run on it

And every other pc game

[lofty warren]

What does activate mean?

[pastel summit]

Recast.

Unless it changes another ability, which seems...unlikely?

[lofty warren]

Ok so you cast spear and while its up you can push againe. Instead of giving you circle to put it casts heroic leap into existing spear

[lusty grotto]

#1423009078099185674

and also Archi posted about it in #old-updates-midnight-beta

2nd to last post

[tribal wharf]

my intial thoughts is the performance on wow on xbox will be a disaster

[frosty mango]

Why would it be a disaster it will literally be a pc

[tribal wharf]

will be a train car wreck in a raid if any sort of addons are involved

[frosty mango]

It will be the exact same as it is on windows

lol

[frosty mango]

Don’t think that’s gonna be a problem

[tribal wharf]

like, stupidly massively bad performance, just trust me

oh trust me

[lusty grotto]

brother there are already MMOs that run in consoles

in fact there is one very popular mmo that runs ON BOTH consoles

[tribal wharf]

look up pc commander and conquer red alert, then ps1 cnc ra (same game), then pc starcraft 1 vs star craft n64

[lusty grotto]

youre stuck in the past

[tribal wharf]

i, .......... look its a game console

it has the chance to go very side ways

[lofty warren]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/world-of-warcraft-and-all-pc-games-coming-to-next-gen-xbox-console-per-windows-379034 does this mean wow will be playable on console?

[tribal wharf]

some day possibly

[lofty warren]

Fck that

[tribal wharf]

i think wow for casual content and old raid should pull a runescape

you can play till pretty high level and you can do alot of the old quests and stuff and you pay to get into the newseason and premium quests and raids

[lofty warren]

Hope there is a feature to auto avoid/block controller ppls

[tribal wharf]

i think, cuz i said similiar, that i should be, it displays if you are on KBM or 1 button, and if the other

just 2 icon, nothing more

let the kbm vs controller and 1 button vs not flame eachother all they want

[mighty valley]

no i do not think they will do that

[lusty grotto]

nor they should

[tribal wharf]

make it achievement everyone does raid on console and controller

[mighty valley]

i don't think they'll do that either man

i really love that your frame of reference is playstation 1 red alert, that's so fun

doom also sucked on super nintendo

[tribal wharf]

well thats the more popular game

because i would intially go for hexen on ps1, which was exactly the same thing

[mighty valley]

naturally

[tribal wharf]

and then i figured out nintendo had shitty computer power in all its console and never played anything nintendo again unless i had it for free

[lofty warren]

Won't they have to remove like half of all specs abilities to be even maybe playable on controller?

[tribal wharf]

and mostly vowed off console gaming other than xbox stuff

they could have likely done doom well on snes if they had carmack help

[mighty valley]

people manage to play on controller now

[nocturne spindle]

#protection message

[tribal wharf]

but he was way too big for that project

[lofty warren]

Ppl play on controllers now for memes not for real

[mighty valley]

it's funny that one of carmack's big early successes was going in the opposite direction, getting super mario bros to work on PC

[tribal wharf]

i have since learned that since the ai code GZ doom drama its now we are supposedly using UZDoom, whatever the hell that is, aint looked into it

[lofty warren]

On Xbox controller is the normal input

[frosty mango]

All they need to do is implement the cross hotbar system FFXIV uses and wow would be perfectly playable on console

[mighty valley]

i know a guy who does everything on controller

[tribal wharf]

well the one girl plays it with controller

[mighty valley]

he mostly plays lower keybind specs but it still works fine

[tribal wharf]

so they should grill her about how to make that whole thing work

ui wise and other

[lusty grotto]

the only problem is gcds/haste

can a controller keep up with it? cause thats the reason why ffxiv has been hard stuck on their gcd

well, and spaghetti code

[tribal wharf]

i never made it past lvl 15 or so on ff14

[lusty grotto]

well you can play it on xbox since last year

so have at it

[tribal wharf]

i just, i cant

i dont want to

[lusty grotto]

okay

[tribal wharf]

there is a bazillion other video games old and new i would like to catch up on

some of those including mmo

[lusty grotto]

old you mean

i bet you havent played BF6

[tribal wharf]

i mean, old, like, runs on duke nuke engine build engine shit

[lusty grotto]

which is btw

pretty fucking good

and the free to play BR comes out tomorrow

[tribal wharf]

some day bf6

[lusty grotto]

when its old

[tribal wharf]

i did 100% achievements on bf3 including the dlc

so i got burn out

[lusty grotto]

since then 5 other BFs have come out

4, One, V, Hardline, 2042, 6

[tribal wharf]

i never did lvl 100 clnl, but i had like lvl 20 of that or so

i doint stick to just 1 game

[outer willow]

I love 4. I’m skeptical about 6. Has anyone played 6 here that loved 4?

[lusty grotto]

ive played all of them

[frosty mango]

FFXIV works fine on controller even on heavy ogcd classes

[tribal wharf]

6 is good but it some times had crashes on ps5

[frosty mango]

I don’t see any reason why it would t work on wow

[outer willow]

And is 6 amazing?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[tribal wharf]

i WANT to play 2042

i have it installed

[outer willow]

Say less. I’ll buy it.

Thanks nim

[tribal wharf]

but u dont have secure boot fuck u me not load game

my pc

[lusty grotto]

ive been r100++++++++ in virtually all of them except hardline

[tribal wharf]

so, whatever lol

[mighty valley]

i love modern shooter naming

[outer willow]

I’ve been deep into jump space. Time to take a break

[mighty valley]

Battlefield One

[lusty grotto]

could be worse, could be Xbox naming

[tribal wharf]

ohhhhh also tehre was also i played like ALLLLLLLLL of the dooms, all of the quakes and dues ex and whatever else fps you can think of

[mighty valley]

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II are different games

[tribal wharf]

and then i did cod4, black ops 1, mw2 mw3, black ops 2

and then i did bf3 and i burned out past playing shooters serious

[outer willow]

My m+ score is 2996 rn. I’ll get my 4 and retire for the season.

And play bf6

[tribal wharf]

i, have a reason im not doing that,

TLDR i need to test rma mobo

to see if its work or not, will just replace it for full new and have tech install it

[lusty grotto]

my fave BFs are 2 and BC2

3-4-6 are close 2nds

everything else is eh (though to be fair, V and One were pretty solid, i just dont like WW1 and WW2 shooters)

[tribal wharf]

i did bf2, but i didnt find it all that fun i did 2142 did not do anything bad company

[lusty grotto]

2142 holds a special place in my heart though

[tribal wharf]

bf2 was something special

pure degeneracy on the microphones

worse that call of duty lobby

[dusky canopy]

yo

[lament osprey]

We dooming on new spear for midnight?

[mighty valley]

not in this channel

[dusky canopy]

You ready to spear leap into a pack and instantly get your cheeks clapped by a back hit

[lusty grotto]

🫡

[sinful copper]

Can't wait for the gifs to be made of that happening to warriors

[lusty grotto]

or people can provide feedback and make them change it

its alpha

[warm plinth]

With how charge has behaved this season, it's probably less likely tbh XD

Love charging and ending up behind the fuckin mob

[dusky canopy]

I’m in a love hate relationship with charge

[tribal wharf]

this guy has okay ui for controller

[dusky canopy]

What if they did some wild shit like
everything tethered to your spear is teleported to the players position

Now that could be funny

[nocturne spindle]

i didnt even take spear on the new talents with what i could grab

[tribal wharf]

video VERY related

[dusky canopy]

I sincerely hope spear is a bad dps pick

And it’s purely a mobility option

[tribal wharf]

how did the change spear

cuz its new

i dont get it

[lusty grotto]

i sincerely hope they change it again

[dusky canopy]

Amen

[lusty grotto]

and im sure Archi is submitting feedback

[nocturne spindle]

is spear los

can you do dumb transendence esque things with it

[mighty valley]

i guess, it's just not up for very long

i too hope this is not the end of the experimentation

[dusky canopy]

The distance you could travel with spear > leap > charge could be wicked

But the fact that it’s a damage cooldown again is 🤮

[mighty valley]

yeah, it sounds pretty annoying to use on cooldown

probably a cool pvp thing but

i don't like it much thank you

[dusky canopy]

Maybe some cool flag carry potential

For the 10 pvp warriors in the world

[pastel summit]

Spearing then jumping to it to get away would own.

[warm plinth]

Yeah I just don't think you take it the way the tree is right now

[tribal wharf]

this is my abosolute favorite

when casting charge

character goes apeshit or something and starts running in random directions

and i have seen some pretty bad lines its made, thats a bit exagurations

[pastel summit]

I've had some VERY wonky pathing lately.

[tribal wharf]

its still one of the best abilities in wow

[pastel summit]

Oh, and battlefield commander is in the class tree. That owns.

[tribal wharf]

but it's rng chaos button

[sharp merlin]

Worst is when you end up behind the thing you charged

And it hits you in the back

[warm plinth]

[sharp merlin]

No clue what I’m doing wrong

[warm plinth]

My own experience has been that it doesn't seem to happen if you're in combat with the thing already. Like it would happen a lot if I charged into Swampyboi in Flood

But if I heroic throw first, then charge, it doesn't

[sharp merlin]

I end up on the other side of swamp

Good example

Same as the saw blade dudes up the stairs

So frustrating

[warm plinth]

Give the heroic throw first thing a try and see if your experience is the same as mine

[sharp merlin]

I’ll try that, good advice!!

[warm plinth]

Obviously a stupid thing to have to do regardless, but at least it might save one of us from getting one-tapped to stupid blizzard XD

[tribal wharf]

i hope they make change int fear into cower a free choice rather than paid

if int shout was mulitple or all targets is cowering, i will hit the button on cd

i simply don't like that they run

dumbest idea i ever had, but i would give them monster infighting, like doom

you can pull them together and attempt to get them to hit eachother and then they retiate on eachother, but again total chaos,

[warm plinth]

I'm sad they changed intimidating shout from the last version

I was so happy

[lofty wren]

Guys I have a question regarding usage of Violent Outburst, do we want to use in always on thunder clap or not? Eaven in ST environmental, because I have noticed that shield slam does actually less dmg then thunder blast on ST so i am not sure did I counted that wrong

[lusty grotto]

Pure ST = SS

anything else = TB

2 targets? TB

[lofty wren]

Hmmm okej

[lusty grotto]

you absolutely never want to use it on vanilla thunderclap

unless youre at 8+ targets and are unlucky with TB procs

[outer willow]

I did it boys.

I can now enjoy my life

[lofty wren]

W8 eaven with empowered TB on ST it will do less then SS with violent outburst?

[tribal wharf]

just give me all of these

for keys

and i will be very happy

[lusty grotto]

yes

if by empowered TB, you mean the tier proc

[frosty mango]

you mean like in legion when you had double charge double leap and intervene and warriors were going across the map in like 3 seconds

[dusky canopy]

[frosty mango]

typically, yes

if you let shield block drop I think that may not be true

but regardless that shouldnt happen

[past oxide]

How is the streets music boss snap done? I tried it twice now and first time the mobs reset before snapping and the second time around one mob snapped, cast a charge and then reset

[tribal wharf]

not hard

u pick a thing and do that thing and then adds appear

and then u tc and aoe taunt

[sinful copper]

Just failed 18 streets on last boss because we didn't do the puzzle right sigh. Got to boss with 7 min too

[tribal wharf]

oh, the snap, no idea

[sinful copper]

But that's not what he's asking

[tribal wharf]

that is arcane magic

i don't fuck with that snap stuff

ever

like there was the trick in mists

that you could jump the one section or many other abilities it... ya... no... lol

[vital dragon]

hello there

In your opinion, what is the best item for me to take at the next reset with turbo boost? I only play war prot (I'm behind, I started S3 late). I'm at level 14 RESI and I want to push as hard as I can until the end of the season. ONLY MM+

I only have the pacemaker as a trinket in 730. In 717, I have the Tome and Brand of Ire.

Should I take the Astral Antenna (still dont have it) ? Or one of my two 717 trinkets in Mythic 730 ?

txf in advance for your help 🙂

[frosty mango]

is your brand heroic or normal, and do you have a mythic shield

[heavy sparrow]

Oh man that's rough

[undone beacon]

Okay maybe I’m being a dumb dumb but with the amount of gear we have now, is doing a solo soak on salhadaar that much better than just splitting groups? Our comp has like no healer externals lol

[frosty mango]

What’s your tank comp

[waxen cradle]

So I gotta ask guys has the dooming from discovering WoW will be made available on console began yet LOL

[undone beacon]

Bear (me) and brew

[frosty mango]

I know brew can solo but I dunno bout bear

We had a bdk and it took some finesse

[undone beacon]

Yeah I’m gonna make the monk do solo tanks

[frosty mango]

Don’t think anyone here really cares

[warm plinth]

It's not exactly a surprise

[pallid quiver]

I'm shocked

Shocked

[jagged gust]

https://tenor.com/view/wont-somebody-please-think-of-the-children-culture-web3-skeleton-jointheorder-gif-5322512645523196902

[undone beacon]

I’ve been throwing bricks at passing cars since they made the announcement

I haven’t stopped pissing and shitting and crying and screaming

[jagged gust]

wait wtf is that symbol

[undone beacon]

The culture I guess

[sinful copper]

what is this? the right side paladin just didnt social with the rest of the pull lol

[sharp merlin]

He saw the light

I don't get some people, they ask for help on how to play Warrior, they DM you, you respond, and then they don't even respond when you help them lmao

[indigo hawk]

Hello guys ! I got a problem with Bigwigs... I don't know why it's look like this addon miss some abilities when mobs cast a little spell, for exemple this mob in HoA (sorry for french but I can't really do screen in english...) the Oblitérateur dépravé :

He is in the first pull of HoA

He got a cast called Trait pernicieux

But when i go to BigWigs

He only got one spell (the dispell)

so BigWigs don't make a sound when he cast his spell

And this is just a exemple but I got a lot of enemy like him with this problem

Do you know why this is like that ?

[hidden linden]

Isn't that the bolt they spam? if so there's not really any value to have an alert on it

especially if they can target non-tanks

[indigo hawk]

Why it's not value to track it ? It can do a -80% or one shot in key like +19

[hidden linden]

because when everything is important nothing is

You will most likely have more than that one trash with mechanics to handle in your average pull

if you do, having an alert on random bolts will just flood your screen/ears/wherever you put your alert

[indigo hawk]

Yeah but why not give the option to track it ?

And when i look at video on youtube of people using Bigwigs, they got a sound on these bolt

why my bigwigs can't teack it ? that's very strange

[fathom oasis]

Then take it to the bigwigs discord...?

[indigo hawk]

There is one ?

Ok thank you

[fathom oasis]

It's safe to assume any semi-serious addon out there has a discord server of its own

[indigo hawk]

great

[indigo hawk]

And i don't really agree with that, because a bolt not kicked is a 100% death on high key, so I need to have a alert

[fathom oasis]

Ideally each dps knows what caster to mark as their own, and handle kicking by themselves

If you get to the point where a bolt not kicked kills someone

At that point you cant rely on reactively kicking based on alerts

Casters should either be preassigned or picked by each dps on pull by using their assigned marks and consequent focus macro

At that point, alerting of every bolt would just be clutter

[indigo hawk]

I understand you point even if I don't really agree. But what happen in your logic if I want to play dps and have an alert on those kick ?

[fathom oasis]

You would be alerted for every bolt, not just the one from your assigned caster

[indigo hawk]

But you take at max 2 or 3 caster, a sound every 4 sec is not that terrible

is not like I could take 10 caster and being spamed by sound

But debating of this is not the main issue, it's like debating of UI, everybody like thing and hate other thing. The thing I don't understand is why I can't have the choice to track this spell when other spell are trackable, it's really strange

[fathom oasis]

If you get an alert every couple of seconds, dont you think that takes from the things that actually need alerting?

If I hear an alert every few seconds, my brain is just going to be filtering them out after the 3rd alert or so

If everything is important, nothing is, as syel said

[indigo hawk]

Really not, I deplated some key because i could CC a cast that i didn't saw during a pull (with shitty view as melee tank)

I could heard it

[fathom oasis]

Yeah, but that alert being sent every pull multiple times could've distracted from some other alert that helped you not wipe on a different pull

[indigo hawk]

I know but it's like convincing me that color blue is better that orange here, look at this youtuber that is top pusher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sfdhjn4OBU

[fathom oasis]

If anything, that sounds more like a display issue. You should be able to see all casts clearly on your enemy plates

[indigo hawk]

Just look at him, he is one of the best one with the shitty name of every spell called h24

and he like it

you don't

that it

You can't convince of what is better for you, will be better for other

idk if this sentence is correct but i tried ahah

[fathom oasis]

I'm merely debating. Idk if you only talk to people with the idea of forcing them to think as you do

Regardless, there are what are called best practices, which are general ideas and methods that work for most people

[indigo hawk]

Convince is not forcing

But, as an exemple, you can't say to someone who ask for tracking IP that it's useless because you use it only to not cap on Rage, so not need to track it and it's an information that flood your UI

[sharp merlin]

I turned off dmg numbers, just to make it easier for me to see

[indigo hawk]

But in fact, if he want to track it, he just will and he should

[indigo hawk]

I hate dmg number so we are in the same team

[fathom oasis]

Yeah, there's weak auras for that

Anyone can tune their UI however they like

[arctic marten]

If i'm using Heavy Handed in AoE, and enemies are in execute range, do I still press Revenge to maintain Deep Wounds, or only Execute?

[jagged pier]

<@&257983573498265600>

[ionic fern]

Yesssss.

First.

[round pendant]

nah no one should be tracking IP

and regarding bolts that are spammed, in high keys your group should be coordinated enough to assign kicks

you don't need some alert going off every time a bolt is being cast

and in low keys, it doesn't matter

[oblique garnet]

You are too much of an early bird

[ionic fern]

It's 1pm.

[oblique garnet]

I have been working only evenings for the past year 1pm is morning

[sharp merlin]

Yeah no need to track IP, it's basically a rage dumper, you only press it really if you're at 70+ rage, so you don't overcap

[pastel geyser]

anyone playing prot in lemix that can share a mountain thane page? all on wowhead are colossus

[indigo hawk]

it's not a question of needing, it's just a question of wanting it

well this debat is infinite ahah nvm

[jagged pier]

just follow the retail thane build

[pastel geyser]

ah fair enough

[sharp merlin]

Venture Co. Contractor's fucking truck. Are they going through my shield block, or are they just that strong in melee? Is there any way to tell when you're about to take a hit from them?

Over the course of Floodgate, I can take almost 600m damage from them, are they just one of those swinging dudes? 😂

[frosty mango]

I believe they put a dot on you?

[fringe lava]

If Shield Block up time is high (90%+) but blocked melee attacks are low(er) (75%+) is it that not all attacks are able to be blocked or would this indicates bad positioning from my part?

[sharp merlin]

No, that's the soldier, it's the normal Contractor dude, hits hardest out of all the things in that dungeon

It's just more, are there some physical hits which can go through my shield block?

[frosty mango]

No - not unless they hit you in the back

I don’t notice them hitting any harder than anything else

How are you determining they are hitting you hard

[sharp merlin]

Logs ahah

And that squeaky bum time when my SB goes down for 0.1sec

[frosty mango]

I mean there are more of that mob than most other mobs but if you look at damage taken by source I’d imagine it only seems high because of the frequency not the raw value being high

[sharp merlin]

Oh look, money

[boreal haven]

How much rage does TC generate ?

[sharp merlin]

If you chain the guy at the top, as in DK Chain, can I completely ignore this 1 mob?

[mellow bridge]

wdym dk chain

[pastel geyser]

death grip im guessing

[sharp merlin]

No, the chain of frost

Chains of Ice

but I think Hunter trap is the only one which words

damn...

[mellow bridge]

that's just a slow, so no

dh cage/rogue sap will allow you to just walk past

things like hunter trap or mage polymorph will require someone to take combat and then drop it

[fathom oasis]

Man, this inconsistency has to be so nice for people learning the game

[warm plinth]

It's not something that is basically ever required

It's not something a new player is even close to worrying about

[fathom oasis]

I remember learning this in Tirna during SL

[solid sun]

When I was a wee lad learning the ways of arcane many moons ago, I just thought turning things into sheep was funny

[fathom oasis]

Everyone always skipped that first guy

[warm plinth]

That would mean you're getting hit in the back.

[warm plinth]

5 for a regular TC. TB is two extra, and lightning strikes are 3.

[indigo hawk]

Is there other class that can cc like that ?

[sinful copper]

Monk paralysis and ring of peace it over or DH imprison

[indigo hawk]

Ok thank

[elfin patrol]

anyone know if there is something to desync in streets 2nd/3rd pull as a tank so dps dont get vaporized?

me and my team were doing okay and just randomly got vaporized on a 18

[nocturne spindle]

uhh

whats your second pull

theres two things it could be

but the problem is probably no ones dispelling the caster

[amber sand]

I have a choice between hero brand and myth tome in vault. I had to swap to prot for our NK and Dim prog, one of those trinkets would replace embrace. I'd be losing a defensive trinket in raid, is it worth replacing?

[lament osprey]

Mythic tome

[paper crypt]

I can get either BiS trinket, which do you recommend? Current trinkets are eradicating arcanocore, astral antenna, improvised seaforium pacemaker at myth level.

[quiet orchid]

do I need any mastery % as a prot warrior for high keys? +18 +19?

[paper crypt]

A little bit, after you get your haste up and some crit

But frankly I think vers is underrated for high keys

[frosty mango]

Almost certainly what weeshy said

No one dispelled the shield, your team pops cds and promptly murder themselves

[elfin patrol]

yes it was the shield

ty for helping me out guys

[frosty mango]

You don’t need anything besides a minimum haste value to keep shield block up (21-26k)

After that stats are largely irrelevant outside of having more

Just sim

You can clear a 20 with 40000 mastery and zero haste playing heavy repercussions, it literally does not matter

We don’t recommend doing that, but if you wanted to, you could

[sinful copper]

brand

[nocturne spindle]

40k mastery just run ITF and get dat default block chance

[astral nest]

any opinions on my dinar usage?

current using hero track cursed stone idol/brand for trinkets and a 727 crafted shield

I could buy 730 shield or a myth track tome/idol

[sinful copper]

why would u buy either of those trinkets

[astral nest]

sounds like there's something else i should buy 🙂

i guess i should mention i only play m+ mid tier keys (15s/16s for now)

[mighty valley]

tome's good for boss/prio damage if that's something your team needs, it's worse than e.g. pacemaker for overall damage

[astral nest]

pacemaker better for overall than stone idol?

assuming i cant get astral antenna above hero track

[mighty valley]

idk, that's simmable but it's certainly easier to use lol

[vital dragon]

Heroic shield Mythic

[quiet orchid]

whats the haste cap for prot warrior?

I mean the haste need to allways keep shield block up

[sharp merlin]

21k+

But even the it’s impossible to keep it up 100% of the time

[undone beacon]

You can get 99%+ uptime at most haste levels if you run Heavy Repercussions, but around 21k+ haste people trade out HR for ITF and take a small hit to SB uptime

[sharp merlin]

I mean not impossible, if you press it at the end of a pull you’re gonna boo boo

[slim widget]

I have heard tome is not easy to keep good uptime with, is that true?

[undone beacon]

Tome is fine to keep uptime with, it’s going to be less sword in keys by the nature of the trinket but it’s not hard

[sharp merlin]

It’s easy with a WA, just forget to push it even with the WA

[slim widget]

If I only run m+ is it still bis?

[sharp merlin]

I mean even if you push it, on higher keys it’s pretty hard to keep up 90%+

I’m personally running HC brand and Myth Pacemaker and it’s doing well

But my dmg on key lvl is green or blue logs, so take my opinion with a pinch of salt ahaha

[undone beacon]

No, unless you’re desperate for prio/boss damage

In keys typically brand + antenna/pace/idol

[slim widget]

kind of what I was thinking, ty

[toxic gyro]

I wouldn’t recommend idol, pretty toxic to use it on trash pulls.

[dusky canopy]

Blizzard can find a cliff with those channeled melee trinkets stg

[toxic gyro]

Unless it’s weekly 10-12 I guess

[sharp merlin]

I loved the storm trinket in dragon flight on my outlaw rogue, used to do sooo much dmg

And had to shadow step to move if the tank moved

[round pendant]

idk idol is completely fine to use

[sharp merlin]

Boon or whatever it’s called

How long is the idol channel?

[round pendant]

1s

[dusky canopy]

Boon was a fun trinket

[sharp merlin]

So basically demolish from last season?

[toxic gyro]

A lot of mobs can’t be stunned, also using stun to pop trinket is pretty troll.

[round pendant]

It's not mutually exclusive

You can use your assigned stun and use your trinket then

or when someone else stuns

[undone beacon]

You can still block, dodge, and parry during demolish, you can’t during idol

[toxic gyro]

Yup, especially as tank. „Sorry can’t move the pack atm bc I’m booning”

[sinful copper]

how do you guys move for corehound frontals in streets with the mini?

[sharp merlin]

Do you guys miss the old affixes? Bolstering and Sanguine.. those were the days! It actually made dungeons more fun imo, like there were push weeks and not so good push weeks 😂

[sharp merlin]

It’s on your team to stack

[undone beacon]

After dealing with sanguine and necrotic in Lemix keys last week, I can say that I certainly don’t

Having push weeks and dead weeks fucking sucked lol

[sharp merlin]

Ah I haven’t played remix, didn’t even realise they brought them back

[undone beacon]

“Hey guys I know the affixes are really good for pushing this week but I’m out of town, maybe next month!”

[undone beacon]

Yee lemix keys have an infinite affix, two old legion affixes, and then tyrannical+fort

[safe jolt]

Hey yall. Is there any decent delve trinket worth buying? I dont need it (myth antenna and myth tome) but just something fun

[jagged grove]

I know we cant sim defence but what yall think would make me more sturdy, heroic brand or mythic sacbrood(paired w mythic pacemaker)

[safe jolt]

probably brand?

and i know it isnt what youre asking but Brand would probably output more dam too

[warm plinth]

The only positive is that they're pretty much all the nerfed versions of them and not the OG legion versions

Anyone know what affixes are on remix this week

[frosty mango]

Re idol - at this point in the season we’re sturdy

Just send it

[frosty mango]

Neither of those will make you sturdy

Brand will outperform the sac tho

[wintry hatch]

Hey, probably repetitive question but didn't manage to find a clear answer. I have HC version items - Antenna, Brand and Feets. Managed to get M Soul Hunters and now I'm wondering - which one of these three should I upgrade to the M version first with Cartel Chips?

[warm plinth]

Brand

[jagged grove]

I can dinar a trinket from dungeons and i wanted somethin to pair w pacemaker that would help me defensively, its my first time pushing what for me are high keys(15/16) and im still learning so i just wanted a bit more help at living, i feel my dam is decent enough that i can drop brand

[frosty mango]

no gear will help you defensively

you being alive vs being dead is purely related to the skill with which you leverage your cooldowns and mitigation

there are very few scenarios when purely defensive trinkets are warranted and even if they were you would almost certainly never drop brand

[undone beacon]

Nethergate is uncapped aoe, gauze is Stammaxxing, footbomb is speed set

[safe jolt]

Nice. Ty ❤️

[jagged grove]

Gotcha, il keep the ire and just get better

[frosty mango]

#protection message

You heard it here first

[undone beacon]

Hell yeah

Nethergate is my goat in weekly keys

[dusky canopy]

Someone predict a ticking sack in my vault please

[coarse bay]

Why would u want a ticking sack

I pray that you get a ticking sack for whatever reason

[waxen cradle]

Hey guys how important are the boots from Soul Hunters for us in terms of usefulness

[dusky canopy]

I play fury 😜

I just chat here with the homies

[waxen cradle]

The stats I mean obviously, but the effect... the effect for us seems meh

[coarse bay]

They can be useful at the highest levels of keys

Stats are good, same as any equal ilvl pair in terms of amount, and theyre haste and crit

At equal ilvl they should be better than other options

[waxen cradle]

Yeah just considering spending my spark and crafting a set and as I dont expect to kill Soul Hunters Mythic any time soon with my guild... it seems a easy way to fill in a slot that is still heroic

[coarse bay]

If your option is heroic sh boots or crafted, definitely craft

[undone beacon]

The effect is a cherry on top but not worth losing ilvl for. 727 crafted will be better than hero reshii

[waxen cradle]

Cool appreciate the heads up I did sim it, but always good to get a real point of view from others also

[faint grove]

Hey team. We are preparing for Nexus King. How should i survive solo soak ? Our tank comp: war/pally

[jagged pier]

get the pala to do them

because they have more cheat deaths, but a full stack of IP and SW should be enough now

[faint grove]

Thanks!. Spellwarding should work as well ?

but yea, i will let him do it 🙂

[jagged pier]

well ye, but paladin has 2 they can us and just alternate

[faint grove]

Awesome, thx for tip

[ruby musk]

Interesting name.

[shut summit]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[tardy sequoia]

should I upgrade weapon first or armor?

[coarse bay]

Wep imo, simmable

[tardy sequoia]

ty

[quasi lintel]

I got thrust into Salhadaar prog as prot warr. How are yall managing CDs for tank combo? I'm dedicating spell reflect to frontal and SW, Demo Shout to soak

soemtimes I just send all 3 onsoak

[lament osprey]

Are you solo soaking or group soaking?

Actually doesn’t matter CDs are the same. SR for frontal is free damage and all mitigation. Group soak or solos soak just SW, gg

Yall always have a SW up for soak

If not need more haste

Lorrgs.io helps too

[quasi lintel]

Thanks, didn't know SR reflects some of it

will def use that to my adv

[quasi lintel]

How do you figure? More IPs? Cause I do feel a little rage starved

[quasi lintel]

also I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around "just SW". I feel like without max IP / Demo Shout it hurts way too much

[frigid plume]

we don't really have a lot of cooldowns to move around. you just reflect vanquish, wall conquer, and the rest of it is you planning out healer externals/immune soak so you don't die

[quasi lintel]

yeah no you were right on the money, SR for frontal and SW/DS for solo soak working out fine

[lament osprey]

DS on CD anyway, otherwise cringe

[quasi lintel]

Then I'm doing something wrong bc if I dont SW+DS on solo soak I get oneshot

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

now play Redsec 😄

back to BF i go

[sinful copper]

Guys why is priory so hard

[undone beacon]

YOOOO

[dusky canopy]

yo

[mortal cypress]

because the Light of Jesus is strong

[sinful copper]

Pulls too small, no time. Pulls little bigger, people die

Key is impossible

[fallow fern]

is Ritual Mud worth taking over Tome/Pace.. ? or should I just take my last socket?

is anyone here running Mud?

[pastel summit]

Mud no damagurs.

[boreal haven]

It doesnt really help you like you think it does. It is also a huge DMG loss.

[fallow fern]

ok, taking socket then

thx

[frosty mango]

You can run heroic mud for high keys where you need it

The ilvl doesn’t impact the cdr and that is the important part

It’s really only situationally useful

[heavy sparrow]

Cause DPS can't function if its not zug zug

[sharp merlin]

The Burly Deckhand, they're pure physical right?

[pulsar epoch]

do you guys have any low key talent builds ?

[limpid sapphire]

this trinket good or pacemaker

this week vault trash 🙁

[lusty juniper]

Need some help, there is leech on the shield. And I already got crafted shield and hero track shoulders. But it's still shield right?

[hidden linden]

Myth track shield good

Myth track shield gooder than anything

[tardy sequoia]

I have a shitty package protector shield, unfortunately upgraded to myth 8/8. is it worth upgrading a better shield, if dropped?

[sharp merlin]

Does anyone use Warcraft Recorder? And if so, how do I make it so people's voices in Discord don't echo?

[ripe ravine]

It will cost only valorstones for you

[fathom oasis]

Are you talking about a hero shield over a myth shield?

Or you mean drop from raid

[somber hollow]

spell reflect on frontal, shieldwall on soak should be enough

the maw debuff before beam usually burnt everything, shit hurts

[elfin elk]

If you don't DS the solo soak you need externals iirc

In my experience anyways

And if you are tanking dragon first after P1 send wall on the bite cus that shit trucks

[lofty glen]

i have camp track Brand and hero track tome. crafted wep 720 and myth shield. is it worth buying brand on hero then when i dont raid? it feels kinda wasted cause i hve the feeling BiS Sword would be better

[warm plinth]

There's no such thing as a shitty shield. The stats don't matter, just the item level. If you got a better stats shield, it should just be valorstones to upgrade anyway. But it wouldn't be priority over anything else that's an upgrade

[vale wyvern]

eh, i try not to judge from one key. but i see how it can be tilting

[sharp merlin]

The entire run they were just flaming me

[vale wyvern]

oh, carry on then

[sharp merlin]

They complained about:

• The Sentinel Skip
• Sentinel Kiting
• The missed kick whilst im kiting the Sentinel cause im out of melee range
• The unlucky RNG on the 2nd boss, which was somehow my fault

Oh and the totems not dying, I apparently am at fault for that too

[mellow bridge]

wdym youre "helping him with the dmg"

it's not split dmg

the way you could actually help him is by stunning the gorging smash so it doesn't overlap

the only thing that is deadly in those pulls is the line + smash overlap

[sharp merlin]

But the line, doesn't the tank help with the damage?

[mellow bridge]

no

you standing in the line does 0

[sharp merlin]

Ah so I've been getting bad advice 😄

[vale wyvern]

i mean, in that context there's nothing he could have done that alternatively someone else couldnt have done

[mellow bridge]

sure

but the tank's globals are worth the least after the healer

and considering the short shockwave CD, you should always be looking for that yourself

also it's a pug, so why expect a random to do something that you can do yourself

that's how you deplete and then go to a discord and complain :p

[vale wyvern]

yeah, which is objectively true. but in the context of the DH blaming specifically the tank, it's just unfound anger.

[sharp merlin]

Wait up, so where did this line info come from?

[vale wyvern]

🤷

[sharp merlin]

I got yelled at by a premade for not 'soaking' the line

[mellow bridge]

Dunno, this is the first time I ever hear of that lol

[vale wyvern]

most mechanics can quickly be fact checked via mdt prob

[brittle owl]

your first mistake was expecting something from a premade

[mellow bridge]

I mean maybe I am wrong but it doesn't say it in the tooltip and I've never heard of that/seen anyone do it 🤷‍♂️

[brittle owl]

premades are 7/10 times shit

[vale wyvern]

yeah, never heard of it either, muyuu

[sharp merlin]

Strange.. wonder where the original person got the info from wtf

[brittle owl]

prob from twitch somewhere

and you ended up in the group where people take it as gospel for some ungodly reason

[sharp merlin]

Interesting, I'm gonna avoid it from now on 😄

[ripe ravine]

What line are you talking about? Can't see anything above. Or at least which one key?

[broken crater]

frontal from the big devourer before 1st boss eco dome

[ripe ravine]

First time I've heard that someones has to split. It's unsplittable 😄

[sharp merlin]

I was told it was meant to be soaked with a tank

I’m actually glad I don’t cause this person was one of those who’s opinion is never wrong 🤣

[ripe ravine]

Anyone who tries to split will get same amount of damage. What was the key lvl?

[noble lynx]

im so done with people not knowing the basics

[sharp merlin]

It was an 18, not super high

[noble lynx]

maybe it works "deals reduced dmg after 5 targets" like many soft target caps

who knows they might be onto something

[ripe ravine]

As dd/healer you just press savebutton or get external, that's it

[sharp merlin]

I looked it up, there’s no info, no nothing on the line - but it makes my life easier

[ripe ravine]

Didn't they ask for splitting spear damage on 2nd boss? 😀

[sharp merlin]

This person who gave me the info also complains I don’t pull fast enough whilst rooted by the Architect in FG also I no longer play with this person so I’m glad

[noble lynx]

just insta ignore anyone who types useless shit in any pug

[sharp merlin]

No, this was a team lead

Whatever he said was gospel

[noble lynx]

there is only a selected few people in this game whose advice you should treat it as gospel but they will most likely present it in a nicer way than what you got from that "team lead"

[ripe ravine]

Tbh there are no pulls in fg where you don't pull architector as last target, but still weird, you are not paladin

[sharp merlin]

I mean you can technically go “right” on the platform after the first pull

Rather than left

But he was playing as a moon bear, so he could tag the guys across the pond and the three loader bots

But me as a war, for that pull I had to save Avatar so he could have “his way” how fast he wanted the pull done

[ripe ravine]

Second pull in fg is headache to gather, but most of dds know it and don't attack till you get all mobs in your melee

[sharp merlin]

Oh this person told me to go Fury cause he died to a frontal on DB during the lust pull and blamed it on me, he was a Boomkin

But like I said, I don’t play with this person anymore, he wanted to play with better players, but sadly I’m still higher io than him

[ripe ravine]

Interesting teammates you have

[sharp merlin]

So.. Schadenfreude

[sinful copper]

Some small truth in that. The frontal from the adds are targeted on tank so you aim them, but yeah he can just move

[sharp merlin]

The frontal was aimed into the courtyard

agreed if it was at the group

[sinful copper]

Oh lol why would he be there

Too funny

[sharp merlin]

like I said, he was never ever wrong

worst kind of player

[orchid narwhal]

Either way

You either adjust or die

If you cant dodge a frontal on boomkin idk

Play smthn easier

ret paladin perhaps

[sinful copper]

BM hunter

[sharp merlin]

Prot Warrior 😛

[nocturne spindle]

Shh don't tell them

I want people to think I'm good at the game cause I tank

[sharp merlin]

How many Shadowblade stacks do you normally take from Shadow walkers before leaping?

I took 50 and leaped with 10%, should I be outing at 40?

[nocturne spindle]

ive only started to do stack resets on +20

and i have to reset at like 30

[unreal yarrow]

Do you guys run spear for that?

[nocturne spindle]

yea

[frosty mango]

I try to reset at 20

I’ll usually shockwave leap and spell reflect

If spear isn’t up

[spark patrol]

How do you consistently do 2nd pull in Dawnbreaker by moving second pack to the middle? I’ve heard it’s the only way to avoid pulling random NPCs

I’ve bricked 19 because of this and had a guy with just dawnbreaker missing telling me I need to tank them in the middle, otherwise black arrow will pull. I tried taunting smallies but big one started casting from away anyway

Is there a proper timing for me to taunt or there’s other way?

[nocturne spindle]

wait for them to walk into position>clap>start walking to the middle

make sure they aggro at/near when theyre finished walking down

or else the timer til they start doing things starts wher theyre on the stairs and theyll cast near the edge

[sharp merlin]

20? Oh shit.. I wait till almost 50, alright I’ll start heading out at 20-30

[frosty mango]

I don’t think it much matters if you aren’t dying

I try to reset earlier so I can get a second reset if I need to

[sharp merlin]

I mean I normally am 🤣 close but no cigar

Also, what do the numbers mean? +0.08 +01:32 and +01:21?

also the green 27:29?

[strong forum]

means you got 100% count at 27:29

[mellow bridge]

comparison to your quickest time

like your first boss kill was 8s slower than your best

[sharp merlin]

Oh.. so not based on average time

Both those bosses took forever, especially Rash, it was on 61% forever

[mellow bridge]

well it's based on keytimer not killtimer

so can be plenty of reasons why

[sharp merlin]

Ahh cool, nice to know

[frosty mango]

That’s because the bosses hp is hyper compressed

Instead of thinking of it as like 63-60

Think of that 3% as 100%

So 61-0 is really 33-0 and you don’t get the benefit of execute and lust has fallen off so it doesn’t just feel like it takes forever, it does take forever

A big reason why I think bosses like that while cool thematically should be coded in a way that allows for execute

[warm plinth]

Meanwhile we had Wrath of Azshara in Legion where you just perma executed haha

[frosty mango]

Or vael

The original warrior banger

[mighty valley]

old man screaming again about how general kaal, a boss in a venthyr dungeon, only existed inbetween the two Condemn ranges

[undone beacon]

The way god intended

[frosty mango]

Man they should bring back condemn

[warm plinth]

I didn't even think about that being a venthyr dungeon

That's funny

[frosty mango]

Condemn was so goated

[warm plinth]

We got the animation, what more do you want

[mighty valley]

The icon

[pallid quiver]

anytime there's a boss that exists outside execute range, I consider bringing this whole disgusting planet to a cruel, merciless end

[mighty valley]

[warm plinth]

And he can do it too; he knows every fighting game special move known to man

[mighty valley]

he can only do the hard combos - the easy ones are beneath him

[pallid quiver]

it's true, i proved that this last weekend

[warm plinth]

Does this mean you're gonna play wow again

Or are you abandoning for fellowship too

[pallid quiver]

probably not; I'd mess more with fellowship atm since so far, the addon changes make me not want to play because I can't customize the aesthetics of my UI

i'd be fine with weakaura changes, boss timer changes, nameplate changes,

[warm plinth]

You can't customize fellowship's much either

[pallid quiver]

yeah but its base UI is closer to fine in my eyes

[warm plinth]

It feels like playing base ui wow to me

[pallid quiver]

It's not just like the position or anything; it's like the color representation and style of menus

[warm plinth]

To each their own i suppose

[pallid quiver]

oh right, I'm probably showing up at Slashback next year for the next event I go to; if you end up there, say hi

[pallid quiver]

yeah there's minor things that just kill my enthusiasm for games; Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite, actually, is like that, because the game itself is fine, but the look of the UI is so ass I never wanted to touch it in my life

[mighty valley]

hmmmmmm I need to figure out a replacement for Evo as my one offline fg pilgrimage