protection

[lofty warren]

worth

[tight mural]

Okay, so my cotank got myth brand in vault. Do I use dinars on myth sh boots knowing I'll be next in line for brand if it drops and last in line for boots? Or do I just dinar the trinket

Currently have hero brand and myth track non sh boots.

The only other things I'd possibly spend dinars on are plex wep and loom shield (crafted in both slots). But that feels utterly depressing. Just haven't seen them drop.

[lost jetty]

To send tome + brand or to send pacemaker + brand..

[lost jetty]

Send whatever you think makes you feel like you're pumping more

[low quiver]

tome + brand seems like highest dps option

[lost jetty]

This is probably like a "duh" response. But I imagine thats from the sim with "x" number of uptime? I feel like some of these dungeons I end up going to shield form too quickly lol

[lusty grotto]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/bis-gear#puzzling-cartel-chips

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-gear-best-in-slot#puzzling-cartel-chips-for-protection-warrior

youre welcome for the link (thank Nome and Mwahi for putting it in)

link that to whoever comes asking

[low quiver]

taking tome 2 tiers in a row is kinda boring ngl but it iz wut it iz

[low quiver]

sim is assuming as high uptime as possible. But it also depends on what content you are tryna do

Raid ST Mythic - Tome + Brand

M+ - 5 Target - Cursed Stone (assuming you dont mind the cast time) + Brand go brr

[lusty grotto]

🤷‍♂️

3 target is not a M+ sim

its a hunters sim

[low quiver]

Fair I removed

[safe jolt]

(sorry if this is the wrong channel) Dinar vendor isnt showing my myth dungeon trinkets, even though im 3k with resilient 12s. Can anyone relate?

[lusty grotto]

i can see them just fine

[fringe burrow]

There are two vendors

One heroic one mythic

[lusty grotto]

works fine

[fringe burrow]

I have all 12+ but the mythic vendor is saying I can't buy half the dungeon trinkets

[safe jolt]

Yep. I figured this out. Sorry, brain has been caved in 1 too many times. ty for helping though ❤️

[lusty grotto]

now for the long process of, upping my lower crests before i spam

1300 runed crests going into gilded

nice

420 lets go

and there goes my dumbass valor stones

[frosty mango]

They’re transferable now

I farmed 10000

[lusty grotto]

yeah trust i did it

[frosty mango]

Winning

[lusty grotto]

but im done upgrading anyway

im sad that logic gates arent available

is it spark week? i lost track

nah next week is spark week

[livid helm]

im on a dead server, does anyone know how I can get a recraft?

[lusty grotto]

join a guild that has crafters

[livid helm]

how can i find a guild off server?

[lusty grotto]

guilds are cross realm

and cross faction

idk check the guild recruitment thingie

or talk to friends and find out if they have crafters in their guilds and get invited as social

[hardy snow]

are we getting first cartel item on tomorrows reset?

[lusty grotto]

if youre EU sure

[lament osprey]

Is the dumb antenna only for mythic plus

[lusty grotto]

NA gets it as soon as we complete the quest

pretty much

[tribal wharf]

name, there was "huge" quote un-quote doom drama, TLDR, leader of gzdoom pushed ai doom code and community said nope, so now it is DZDoom or somethin. i am aware,

since i have to be aware of all things doom

[lament osprey]

How are yall simming for shorter fights for raid? 1.5 mins

[lusty grotto]

i mean

now that you mention that

[lament osprey]

Everything going to blow up after today and especially next week

[lusty grotto]

brand is only not worth in sub 4 min

so antenna is a good replacement for it, if you can manage the orbs

[hardy snow]

great, thanks

[lament osprey]

Sim mythic antenna, tome, and crit trinket

@ 3 mins?

[lusty grotto]

1.5 mins

5 target

for aoe

3 mins / 5 mins for ST sure

[hardy snow]

I personally don't, for me minmaxing matters only on hardest fights which are long anyway, so I usually sim 5-6min, but thats just my personal take on that.

[lusty grotto]

3 mins is fine

he wants a brand-less sim

so 3 mins it is

[lament osprey]

Yeah brandless sim

[livid helm]

i literally cannot find anyone lol

[lusty grotto]

post in reddit or somethign

this is the internet

communicate

[livid helm]

lol

[sinful copper]

Got the myth crit haste shield from raid

Let's gooooo

[undone beacon]

Man i dont have any myth kills on the warr and i have myth tome/pace + hero brand already so

Guess im buying myth arms weapons

[lusty grotto]

dh got bis M+ weapon

warrior got stinky vault

only uppies for arguably fury

arguably

[drowsy tartan]

its a good prio for tokens? or Astral antenna is better than tome?

[undone beacon]

@lusty grotto bear vault

Prob token

[lusty grotto]

its under the dinar section, so why should it be a priority thats not dinar based?

scroll down, theres a trinket prio

[lusty grotto]

gibe neck

[undone beacon]

funny enough its listed as bis for bear but is a substantial loss cuz i already have so much haste

[lusty grotto]

i need it for fury :\

[warm plinth]

I didn't do any retail keys last week 😱

Remix consumed me

oh wait, maybe I did a woyer key

oh shit son

ezpz

Wait they gave us weapons and shields this time on the dinar vendor? That's awesome!

(for M+)

[grizzled nova]

not indestructible vendor it

[warm plinth]

[undone beacon]

blizz wtf

[warm plinth]

get fukt nerd

[undone beacon]

ironically the only thing I'd buy on the freakin bear is myth tome so

I guess I buy myth prism for the big meme

[warm plinth]

lemme get a soul hunters carry ty

[undone beacon]

See part of me wants to hold dinar in case we get hunters down super fast but uhhhh

[warm plinth]

Oh I thought you were CE

[undone beacon]

PFFFT

you must've missed my whole rant this morning about my guilding wanting to skip hunters

bro we suck lolol

[warm plinth]

That sucks, I'm sorry

But I bet you're a gamer

[undone beacon]

i try my damndest

big boy bear

[lusty grotto]

i missed it

that sucks

but hunters isnt an easy fight anyway so i kinda get it

depending on drops tomorrow for us, my buys are arcanocore, boots, brand, and tome

im next in line for boots so idk

idol is also in the picture maybe

if i get insanely lucky

[tawdry cloak]

can we buy shields with dinar?

I don't have myth track chest or helm, but I already have soul hunters boots, myth tome, and a myth pacemaker. I feel like I spend my dinar on brand and a shield and take this myth chest from vault

[warm plinth]

yeah, you can this time

Shields and weapons

[frosty mango]

Got myth soul hunter boots from vault

[warm plinth]

Nice!

[frosty mango]

Super useful for tanking

[tawdry cloak]

grats

[warm plinth]

Now get me a free carry of soul hunters ty

[tawdry cloak]

don't y'all think the chest is a better angle than shield then for me?

[frosty mango]

Sorry we’re extending for the rest of the tier

[frosty mango]

Nothing is ever a better angle than the shield

[warm plinth]

If you have no reason to use that third dinar on anything else, then I think it's totally fine

[tawdry cloak]

I know but read my post. I think it's better to use this vault on the chest since I basically have two free dinars

only other thing I could buy would be antenna, but I already have such good trinket options

[undone beacon]

Boutta just fuckin uhhhhh buy a 730 weapon from dinar vendor

im not getting a hunters kill on it unless i buy one, and i have myth tome and pacemaker

[ebon stirrup]

Embelishment crafts worth it over 730 gear?

[thin minnow]

i'm really torn between antenna vs pacemaker

fuckkkk

[plush tendon]

guys, what key should we run

[warm plinth]

Priory

So it can turn into flopdgate

[warm plinth]

Generally, yes, but you should use low stat budget slots when possible like wrists/boots/belt to minimize the stat loss

[tame jasper]

to our US folks, what Items can you buy from raid? In S2 it were "rare items", but we only have one item in raid listed as rare

[round pendant]

Hero brand or myth antenna?

for M+

[pastel summit]

I think it's dimmy ring, soul hunter boots, ire? Lemme seee.

oh, right, maw of the void but that's not really prot

[tame jasper]

thanks, so my guild needs to kill soul hunters fast (started progress last ID)

[past summit]

been away from the game a while and I am stuck trying to get a decent ring ... whats a good way to get a champion/hero ring if you have bad luck with drops?

[tame jasper]

craft it

[nocturne spindle]

we free boisss

[thin minnow]

is champion track SH boots better than any of the hero track boots other than SH?

[nocturne spindle]

Prob not

The boots aren't that important

For tank

[thin minnow]

not good enough even for surviving?

[nocturne spindle]

Depends on what your doing

But at this point it's probably better to have crafted boots at 727 rather than normal sh boots

[thin minnow]

you would use hero sh boots over 727 crafted boots?

[nocturne spindle]

In dungeon yes

In raid no

[mint night]

So Leah or Tome of light for m+ ?

[tame jasper]

Tome

[fringe lava]

Is Tome actually good in M+? Only had it in season 2 but I felt you gained stacks quicker than the recharge, still worth it?

[warm plinth]

you can still have 80+% uptime on the offensive buff

[mint night]

i have hero seforium and hero ceasless ire, So swap hero seforium for tome then ?

[warm plinth]

yeah

[mint night]

Do you play it with thé effect of crit?

[pulsar epoch]

so tome better than astral antenna ?

i was using ire and soleah

both hero

[indigo relic]

my sim showed me i should go for tome and antenna, but everything else say brand and tome 😄

[warm plinth]

Tome is a single target/priority damage trinket

Pace, so'leah, antenna are all going to perform better on overall, but will be worse on ST/prio

[indigo relic]

I did the sim for single target and results was antenna and tome way better than brand and something else

also why i cant able to buy items from flood and prio with resi +12? 😄

[nocturne spindle]

sim wasnt long enough for brand

[indigo relic]

thy

[warm plinth]

It's bugged, pretty sure. Seen others not be able to buy from prio at least

Despite having resi 12s

[indigo relic]

hope they are fixing it soon 😄 thanks for the answers

[warm plinth]

And to elaborate on Weeshy's comment, Brand takes ~4 minutes to stack up, so any sim shorter than that will show it underperforming

[idle copper]

I won't have access to mythic Brand but will have access to mythic Pace (already have mythic tome)

How does hero brand compare to mythic Pace? as in is it worth using a dinar for the pace?

[hardy snow]

[jade pulsar]

clutch, gz

[serene moth]

So I got mythic Tome and mythic Brand. My guild just killed Soul Hunters last ID. What do I go for with the Cartel Chips? My thought was Antenna, Soul Hunter Myth Boots and ?.

[crimson furnace]

guys, what are we sending when it comes to the dinar vendor??

any lists online?

ty!

[jagged pier]

u buy what u need

there is no buy all list

what yu need to completely different to what someone else needs

[proud nimbus]

does it make sense to have 1. band an aoe trinket and 2. priory a single target trinket on at the same time

[tardy sequoia]

what should I craft besides everforged wrist? shield is good?

even if I already have a 730 shield equipped I mean

[jagged pier]

why would u craft a lower ilvl shield?

[clever path]

Belt

[tardy sequoia]

maybe better stats? for everforged defender

[jagged pier]

that doesnt make it better

[indigo hawk]

Should I go for hero brand with myth antenna (that I already got) or myth peace/tome + myth antenna ?
I only play mythic+ at like +18/19

[fathom oasis]

Ilvl >>> stats on the shield

Ilvl means block amount

Who cares if a shield is haste+crit or versa+mastery

You have jewelry and a lot of extra item slots to play with and find the right combination of secondary stats

[tardy sequoia]

cool then I'm gonna keep my currencies 🙂

[idle copper]

I just simmed this and it came in nearly +.5 million more DPS

[fathom oasis]

Brand in m+ is all around insane

[idle copper]

That was just on 5 target 5 min run

[fathom oasis]

You can set up the sim to consider a fully stacked brand from the start

Which is more realistic for 90% of all m+ runs

[idle copper]

Cool, Ill have another look thank you. I'm on my phone it's a bit clunky the interface

[idle copper]

Can't see that setting ATM, I'll have a look on the pc tonight - thank you

[cerulean tusk]

Brand is usually my top dam or close to, with 9-12% of my overall dam done, and it is a HC version

Crits 8 million, big dam

[sharp merlin]

Running a team is you basically getting the resil key level the rest don’t have

[idle copper]

I'll do a proper SIM tonight, I kinda messed it up as I left brand as 704 rather than maxing the hero out

[hardy snow]

lower ilvl shield have less block value, so its not "better stats"

[idle copper]

I think the crafting order is usually
Shield > 1H > wrists/waist > other gear slot > jewellery you have a 730 shield, What's your 1H like?

[cerulean tusk]

If you don't take shield specialisation, to get more haste%. Wouldn't you just as easily drop block value for better stats

[crude pecan]

what are our bis m+ trinkets? is it antenna + brand or something else + brand? like tome or peacemaker

[ionic fern]

I'd do Tome + pacemaker.

Brand can be great,but only if you can keep it up all the time.

[idle copper]

What's the idea behind not taking shield specialisation? More DPS talents?

[crude pecan]

sorry, i meant trinkets from both raid + m+ with the aim of doing m+

[mellow bridge]

Generally brand antenna yes, assuming myth track

If you can't keep up brand, just play another stat stick like pacemaker or soleahs

[grim pilot]

so close, tryna break 10 in eco

maybe ara will do 10

[neat dune]

is it better to keep 8/8 HC band of shattered soul, or to get crafted 727?

[finite lily]

is hero track boots from soul hunters better than myth track boots?

[warm plinth]

No

Well, for pure survival, yes. But not for damage.

[neat dune]

well we are progging nexus, and i dont find myself dying to anything so i guess i go for crafted then. thx

[warm plinth]

Sorry that was in response to the boots question. For the ring I would take crafted either way

[neat dune]

aaa 😅 allright thanks

[sharp merlin]

Brand is being outsimmed by Myth Pace / HC Antenna, chat, is this real?

[jagged pier]

did u set brand to have high stacks?

[sharp merlin]

How do I do that Jakey?

[severe plover]

So im a m+ andy pushing 17 and 18. i dont ever die really. should i buy pacemaker mythic or hc boots for dinars?

[solemn kelp]

Vault hates me

[jagged pier]

bis neck is really bad yer

[gritty relic]

Mythic pacemaker or mythic antena with dinars?

[jagged pier]

if u want to play the mini game take antena if u dont take pacemaker

[gritty relic]

How close are they in performance if you account for 20% miss on antenna

[jagged pier]

thats a sim question

[gritty relic]

TRU

[gritty relic]

Single target arcano core is ahead of both..
Sim dungeon slice?

[grizzled nova]

your other trinket isn't on use then I would still take idol

it's as good as pacemaker/antenna in st, and significantly better in aoe

[gritty relic]

My other trinket is myth brand

[tulip wagon]

Boys I need help, do I take the hero boots for the effect or go with 727 crafted and mythic tier helm, currently hero on helm? is the effect worth the ilvl loss?

[thin minnow]

would mythic boe boots be an okay option if i can't get hero track SH boots?

[gritty relic]

Arcano core is still ahead of pacemaker / antenna in dungeon slice sim

[grizzled nova]

If your primary interest is ST then tome is the only choice

[gritty relic]

Csi is 100k over arcano core for dungeon slice

[jagged pier]

dungeon slice doesnt support prot

so its not going to be accurate

[gritty relic]

What would be the best way to sim trinkets for m+?

[gritty relic]

Also i mainly play m+, I heard tome can get hard to manage in m+

[grizzled nova]

5 target minute and half, but mostly just playing with them.

Tome loses loads of value in high target count environments, especially if it's high target counts for a long time

[gritty relic]

So where m+ is my main focus tome is lower viability ?

[grizzled nova]

Yes, I wouldn't run tome at all if you're primarily interest in m+

It's a st parsing trinket

Brand/Antenna/Pacemaker/Idol

Pick two, you're good

[gritty relic]

Is arcano core really not on that list?

[jagged pier]

its really not that good

[gritty relic]

Noted

[grizzled nova]

Also an st parsing trinket, and why bother with it when you can get other trinkets that offer similar dps performance and give you loads of secondary stats that have defensive value

[gritty relic]

True

How do I set brand to have max stacks in sim?

Okay so csi is simming highest.
Does block drop while casting it?

[grizzled nova]

Yep, but it's a hasted cast, it's like 0.6s long

I suppose there's a world where you're in 12 target count pull and they all melee you at exactly the same time while you're casting it.

But it has never been an issue that has caused me to die, or really even notice that it happens

[gritty relic]

Okay it looks like CSI is my choice, thank you!

[thin minnow]

only have normal SH boots and a hero track haste mastery boots

[mighty valley]

any mythic boots would be better than hero sh boots anyway

[thin minnow]

is the reishi effect really that negligible for tanks?

[keen star]

raid group fell apart just before soul hunters, would you spend the dinars on myth antenna to replace brand for just pushing M+? it's my last item that's not myth or crafted

[jagged pier]

id spend it too replace pacemaker

[keen star]

yeah I was afraid I'd have to make that compromise

at least I'll have a myth bag ilvl I guess

man I can't even buy myth sh boots

I should join a guild for 1 reclear and then dip

[frosty mango]

It’s great in m+ but it’s purely defensive so depending on what content you are doing it ranges from useless to solid

[thin minnow]

primarily focused on m+. i'm just so unlucky to not be able to even get a hero track SH boots. just thinking of buying a boe myth boots and forget about it

[keen star]

or save money and craft 727

[frosty mango]

I would not use normal (or even hero) effect boots over myth boots

[grizzled nova]

I have a normal pair but we've seen like 2 plate versions drop in heroic/myth in 10 weeks? And dps has giga prio

I'm using non-reshii myth boots

again, isn't making the difference for surviving 18s so it isn't gonna be the thing holding you back

it'd be nice to have an extra 200m hp healed in a dungeon, but it probably isn't gonna be the thing that saves you

[frosty mango]

Also it tends to proc at dumb times

Like for example ara Kara when you are gathering the first pull it procs immediately

So imo the functional value is…..nebulous

[lilac widget]

guys i feel like im going nuts again

does anyone know how to find the patch notes for TODAYS legion update

ive googled like 10 different variants and just comes up with initial remix notes

[undone beacon]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/more-infinite-power-from-world-content-legion-remix-hotfixes-for-october-21st-378973

These?

Also i swear to god none of the links in the wowhead class servers work

i just want to ask the spriests where a glyph is in lemix

[lilac widget]

@undone beacon ...

thank you so much haha

i feel like im going insane, can never seem to google anything anymore

what did you put in to find it?
i literally typed legion remix 21st oct patch

[celest sequoia]

Hey guys, i have a question:
i will not have the opinion to kill soulhunters, maybe i can affort a loomi kill for the feather.
i actually have a bad trinket (streets stam 694) and myth track soleah.
i have no rashi boots either.
what do you think is my best option to take the first week?
im not sure if the raid hero track trinkets / items are better than the myth m+ items 🙂

[cerulean tusk]

Mythic Brand, for sure

[celest sequoia]

but i can not obtain it due to no kill :>

[cerulean tusk]

Meh, guess you just gotta wait for the rat to respond

[rough egret]

Help me, should I spend dinars on shield? 😄 I have this trinkets in bags, brand is champ, no reshi boots, can buy them only at HC lvl

brand i can get in 4 weeks for next dinar purchase

[tribal wharf]

uh oh

they are killing the turtle again

[undone beacon]

I just scrolled down wowhead lol

[undone beacon]

hero brand most likely

[mighty valley]

wouldn’t spend a dinar on a craftable slot that also has a lot of myth track sources, hero brand would be a better use imo

[rough egret]

alright thanks

[idle copper]

I thought if you killed plex and soul you got loot rights to loom (as in vault etc)?

nvm just read it doesnt include dinars - have to actually kill that boss

Is there a bug with Streets - its not giving me credit for having done it on a 12 in the Dinar shop (but it is for the rest?)

[lusty grotto]

do you have resilient 12?

and/or have you turned in the quest to make your keys resillient?

[idle copper]

yep and yep

[nocturne spindle]

its been buggy for people

might just have to go run it

[idle copper]

its giving me mythic track for all the other dungeon gear

[lusty grotto]

it hasnt been buggy

people just cant read

[idle copper]

what am i missing?

[lusty grotto]

every single person that comes in here and says "i cant do this" is looking at the wrong gear

screenshot your resilient key

and paste it here

and then screenshot what the vendor says

[idle copper]

rssilent key in achievements?

[lusty grotto]

your key

the achievement is not account wide

[lusty grotto]

screenshot your key

[idle copper]

not sure where to find that sorry

[lusty grotto]

ok so what does the vendor say

bro

wdym

do you have a m+ key in your bags?

does it say resilient?

[lusty grotto]

ok now post what the vendor says

or the item

[lusty grotto]

the vendor's item that you want to buy...

[idle copper]

sorry it dodnt copy when i though it did

[lusty grotto]

is that the only one?

[idle copper]

yep

[lusty grotto]

or are there any others

[idle copper]

rest are all ok

[lusty grotto]

ok thats def a bug

why would you wanna buy a myth shield though

[idle copper]

The streets sword is red as well sorry, the rest are all ok

i only have 727 crafted

[lusty grotto]

you only have 3 dinars

you can get those through the vault

well 1 of 3 dinars only

as of today

[idle copper]

I thought shield was > than rest?

[lusty grotto]

on dinars?

no

you can get it through the vault

[nocturne spindle]

so tempted to buy a loomithars

[idle copper]

so go with Myth Pace as i only have hero ire/pace in my second slot (myth tome already)

[lusty grotto]

dinars are for items that are tedious to get, be it because they drop on a weekly lockout (like raids) or not farmable (myth M+ trinkets)

im guessing you dont raid

[idle copper]

im only 2/8 and likely not to get much further tbh

2/8m

[lusty grotto]

2/8 before this week? pugging i assume?

[idle copper]

yep

[lusty grotto]

bosses will melt this week though

so i wouldn't just send a very limited dinar if you have a chance at killing loomi for antenna

[idle copper]

fair one, ill hold off then

[lusty grotto]

either way its up to you

[idle copper]

makes sense tbh

[lusty grotto]

im personally holding out for our myth reclear this week and then deciding on a buy

[tardy sequoia]

what's better between hands or heads? (both are myth 710, both are same ilvl upgrade)

[lusty grotto]

head

head/chest/legs > hands/shoulders > boots/bracers/belt

the first 3 have the biggest stat pool

[tardy sequoia]

head gives haste / mastery, hands give crit / haste

[lusty grotto]

doesnt matter

[tardy sequoia]

ah ye that's true

i have 5.4 is so low, even with ilvl upgrade it's gone from 17% to 14% 🙁

ah now transforming it to tier i've gone to 7.3k 🙂

[lament osprey]

What’s the general okay haste with into the fray talents? (Unbuffed) 21k plus?

[lusty grotto]

yea

its the bare minimum to talent it

[lament osprey]

[fallow fern]

Can you actually craft two rings of earthen craftmanship? I was comparing stats on the ring.. but my result is saying I should craft both ring slots.. lol

[sinful copper]

yes u can

[lusty grotto]

if they are unique-equipped you cant

but im on lemix so i cant check

[sinful copper]

they are not

[fallow fern]

Hmm interesting.. never even thought of that

[idle copper]

you definately can i have x2 crafted earthen rings on my Rsham

[round pendant]

NIMCHIP

hero brand or myth antenna

[lusty grotto]

myth antenna

[round pendant]

lame

[lusty grotto]

also did you see they put the achieves in

[round pendant]

oh did they

[lusty grotto]

yea

[warm plinth]

Triple threat son

[lusty grotto]

healer all 10s i think

[round pendant]

what's the reward

[lusty grotto]

i gotta fucking gear my paladin now goddamn it

[warm plinth]

It doesn't have to be all the same toon does it

[lusty grotto]

nah

[round pendant]

nice wowhead won't load

thanks blizz

[lusty grotto]

i did it last season with holy paladin, ret paladin and then warrior as tank

this season im probably doing tank/dps as warrior and then heals as holy

though i can dps in DH too...

but my paladin is in s2 gear ive barely touched it

fuck

[round pendant]

oh

it's the same title

what the fuck?

[lusty grotto]

oh is it?

[round pendant]

nevermind then thanks blizz

[lusty grotto]

nothing new at all?

[round pendant]

that's what a reddit thread said

https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=61877/the-unbound-dungeon-master

[warm plinth]

Maybe I'll try for it. Only need healer left

And already done a couple 10s

[round pendant]

@lusty grotto well I decided I cba pugging mythic 2 so I'm just gonna get the hero brand

[lusty grotto]

thats fine

[round halo]

is it worth to get boots for dinars?

[lusty grotto]

no

[jagged pier]

mythic yes if u have the trinkets u want

hero no

[lusty grotto]

☝️

[round halo]

I can get mythic boots, i have hero tome and brand

I can also get mythic brand or tome though

[lusty grotto]

you dont have myth trinkets

[jagged pier]

but u want those 2 trinkets first

[round halo]

Ok, thanks!

But it would be a good 3rd choice? (boots)

[lusty grotto]

its dead last

[round pendant]

pain

[jagged pier]

again its fine

[lusty grotto]

under myth brand, myth antenna/pace, myth tome, etc

trinkets are more important like Jakey said

[jagged pier]

nah fuck antenna not running a m+ again this season

not buying it

[lusty grotto]

i have it 🙂

either way im mentioning them as an example

[lament osprey]

My WW monk complained to me about having mythic antenna week 2. Told him it was trash for raid

[lusty grotto]

for a WW?

no

[lament osprey]

Sorry he was complaining for me, saying I should have taken that mythic trinket antenna week 2

[lusty grotto]

oh

yeah no thats a dps first item lol

same as boots

[jagged pier]

well it was over inflated in week 2 on sims and stuff

[lusty grotto]

thats certainly true

most people dont tweak the uptime

[finite lily]

i dont raid, but what would u recommend for the first purchase with dynars?

[lusty grotto]

check the wowhead or icyveins guides

[ripe ravine]

i guess this question was there many times but didnt find. last mobs before 1st boss hit hard with magic damage (13m in shieldwall). any tips? or did i miss something?

[lusty grotto]

what first boss

[undone beacon]

i have this same bug on my bear with priory, its annoying

I have resil 12, its on the keystone, cant buy priory loot

[finite lily]

ty, do you know if its in order on wowhead?

[lusty grotto]

yes

so go down the list cause those are myth tracks

[finite lily]

so actually tome is my bis, if i cant get brand on myth track?

how come i see no one on raider.io using tome?

[lusty grotto]

what first boss

[ripe ravine]

mb, streets

[lusty grotto]

reflect hard light batons

look at our reflectable list

thats pinned and/or in #protection-faq

[warm plinth]

You're our reflectable list

[lusty grotto]

wall proxy strike

[warm plinth]

Fuckin gottem

[undone beacon]

bad game 2/10

[warm plinth]

Yeah, it's happening with flood and priory items for some reason

[lusty grotto]

weird

[warm plinth]

Youre the third person ive seen report it

[undone beacon]

No myth tome for bear, bear cannot read

Netherprism it is

[warm plinth]

Checks out tbh

[lusty grotto]

2nd one today at least

[round pendant]

works for me

[lusty grotto]

you can hero brand

and myth tome

and myth pace

those could be your 3 buys

as for the other question... i guess ill answer it for the 99 billionth time

tome is by a mile the best ST trinket in the game

so in keys, it has reduced play cause people dont recognize its value for bosses and prio target, even though its respectably extremely strong in aoe

hopefully that about covers it

[ripe ravine]

there are 2 of them, isnt it?

[lusty grotto]

two what

[ripe ravine]

2 strikes

[nocturne spindle]

oh shit

wrong nim

lmao

[lusty grotto]

im not sure what youre asking

i listed them

[nocturne spindle]

the strikes line up

just brrr

[lusty grotto]

Security does batons

you can reflect those

Overseers and Gatewarden do proxy strike

which you wall

[ripe ravine]

ive got proxy strike on 13m under shieldwall

[lusty grotto]

do you have a log

[ripe ravine]

y

[lusty grotto]

link

[ripe ravine]

can i link it to ur DM?

[lusty grotto]

no

here

[ripe ravine]

weird a bit for me but okay, will find the moment

[lusty grotto]

link the log and we'll find it

[ripe ravine]

https://ru.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xVWN8mFbkvMHXtR3?fight=last&type=deaths&death=1

[lusty grotto]

man

every time

i keep looking for the translate button

and then i realize its ru.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xVWN8mFbkvMHXtR3?fight=last&type=deaths&death=1&translate=true

[idle copper]

PSF - right mini boss, he's doing an ?AoE blast this is pretty much one shoting the group, he has to be fought on his own?

[ripe ravine]

i dont have a lot of experience using logs, and mine usually are en, but this was not mine, so i just dk where can i do it

[lusty grotto]

you most def didnt have wall up there

[idle copper]

as in it does group dmg on what i take?

[ripe ravine]

i pressed it 0.7 secs before (remember and details), and its on buffs

[lusty grotto]

for this one sure

for this one, theres literally no CDs

[lusty grotto]

you can SR for magic DR

i cant read russian

so your pictures dont work for me

[ripe ravine]

shield wall is last one (icon)

[ripe ravine]

timer isnt russian

[lusty grotto]

17 M

no wall

no demo

no SR

it goes down to 10M when you wall

on that 2nd one

which i already posted

so no need

[ripe ravine]

mate, last one skill is shield wall, u can know it by icon. death is 4.36

[lusty grotto]

to put that picture in

there is no wall here

THIS is wall

[ripe ravine]

but i can see it (as u) on buffs? right before the death

[lusty grotto]

well its not on for the hit

so

thats on you for being late

even if a split second late

what about demo shout? what about SR?

[ripe ravine]

so it casted 0.7 before the buster (u can see it on casts) but its not on?

[lusty grotto]

brother

if the hit doesnt register it being on

its not on

period

[ripe ravine]

shieldwall isnt immediate or something?

[lusty grotto]

im not sure why this is hard to comprehend

you were late

by a split second

thats it

move on

use your other DRs

[ripe ravine]

one last try for me. ive casted sheildwall 0.7 seconds before the strike, after 0.7 seconds ive got 2x14m dmg into wall. the thing why im asking here (thanks, i saw logs too before i wrote it) - is shieldwall activating not immediately, and second - does it work for proxy strike. by some reason u tell me that i need to use other DR. thats not correlating

[lusty grotto]

its immediate

its off gcd

it works on proxy strike

but why wouldnt you use the other DRs as well, youre doing an 18, not a 12

[pallid quiver]

There's not a single ability in the game that's actually technically immediate

the server has to process your press, then actually apply the state that you're in in comparison to all other data coming in

[ripe ravine]

so another question then - isnt it enough to live into this strike? does it hit about 26m without sw?

[ripe ravine]

0.7 is enough for the most except leech mechanic

[lusty grotto]

this is the full amount

unmitigated

is 40% dr enough to take it? do the math

[ripe ravine]

okay, finally. thanks a lot, im not trying to trol u or something, just didnt get why u cant understand my point of question. maybe i wrote s omething wrote at first

[lusty grotto]

also proxy strike is parryable

i still dont understand it

[ripe ravine]

dont think u r interested but u can ask me if u want

[lusty grotto]

nah Slava Ukraini

[ripe ravine]

no one of normal people gives a f about that words - just fyi

but thats still a good detection. have a nice evening

[lofty warren]

You need to press your defensive before you take damage. If you press it after it doesn't help unless you are brewmaster.

Look at the time stamp where the hit comes in and the time stamp where you gained the buff from the defensive. Defensive gain needs to have smaller timestamp then damage event

[ripe ravine]

can u show me please? on screen or just choose the timeline with right graph

[lusty grotto]

i think youre misunderstanding a little here pepega

he did mitigate the first one with wall

the 2nd one he just didnt use anything

[ripe ravine]

i guess u r misundestanding everything (no offense), cos there were 2 proxy hits in a row, ive casted shieldwall 0.7 secs before first, and had 2x14m in a half of a second. i cant understand how it cant be watchable in case of log

[lusty grotto]

are you sure about that?

cause its right there

[ripe ravine]

r u f troling me or something?

its the buff fade

[lusty grotto]

yes

[ripe ravine]

cos of death

[lusty grotto]

....

what

ok im done

[humble pine]

gang, for someone that dont raid still worth buy raid hero trinkets? I mean vs the m+ mythic available 🙁 I dont have brand yet so not sure

[ripe ravine]

i dont really need ur exceptional opinion mate, u talk a bs over 15 minutes already. i said that was shieldwall 0.7 secs before the proxy strike, u link me buffs fading on death

[lusty grotto]

youre an idiot

[ripe ravine]

same

[lusty grotto]

Slava Ukraini

[rough egret]

brand good

[humble pine]

hell yeah

[ripe ravine]

something clownish else?

[lusty grotto]

yeah hero track brand is good

but dont buy anything else as hero track

brand is the only exception

[ripe ravine]

just f imagine ive lost my shieldwall before the proxy. and all the buffs else

[humble pine]

yeah, i dont rly need anything else, mostly trinket ... but brand I feel is kinda too cracked to pass too :/

[tawdry cloak]

Yea @lusty grotto that just proves he did have shield wall up when he died

[ripe ravine]

no way 😄

[rough egret]

34M hit reduced by 40% is how much ? 🙂

[ripe ravine]

the very first question was about that. but someone decided to write a bs a lot and end it with a question why didnt i press any more DR. i just didnt know how does it hit on 18s, and if shieldwall isnt enough to live it

[lusty grotto]

i dont give a shit about what hes saying

[rough egret]

So now you know 🙂

[tawdry cloak]

I mean 34m reduced by 30% from block and 40% from shield wall is 10m, which is what the first one was

[ripe ravine]

yes, but with a lot of bs as a bonus

[lusty grotto]

proxy strike is not blockable

so no

ask blizzard why its parryable but not blockable 🤷‍♂️

[ripe ravine]

proxy its magic damage (aporting to the mdt), so i have sr/shieldwall

[jagged pier]

also its not 10 mill

thats not how dr works

[tawdry cloak]

Yea I added that together instead of multiplying .3x.4

[lofty warren]

Says you got shield wall at 04:35.781 and then you took 2x proximity strikes

[ripe ravine]

was a sarcasm. yes, i did, and i wrote it 2-3 times

i was just asking if it hits so strong that shieldwall isnt enough to live 2 proxies in a row

[lofty warren]

So what's the problem? And it looks like no its not enough. You were also taking mellees from boss same time

[rough egret]

Healer issue, he had 00:00.322 time to top you up after first hit /s

[round pendant]

holy shit the lack of valorstones

[ripe ravine]

im not pretending like im a good warrior tank, didnt play it since bfa, so yes, sometimes im wondering, thats why i asked it here. didnt have troubles with it on pala/dh

[jagged pier]

u can transfer

[round pendant]

that's helpful ig

but not for people who don't play alts

[lofty warren]

Says proximity strike deals arcane damage so spell reflect can help dr it

[rough egret]

I was joking with that post 😄 well now you know that it hurts and youll be ready next time

[lofty warren]

Great minds think with the the same brian

[rough egret]

[warm plinth]

Looks like the bug with cartel chips isn't limited to priory/flood. Saw a facebook post having the same issue with eco loot

[frosty mango]

Pepega memes 24 hours a day then he occasionally just whips up some log analysis that shows he knows

Master level

We’re gonna find out one day Pepega is like yoda in disguise

[undone beacon]

pepega was in bear discord earlier

i was shooketh

[coarse bay]

You are all just misunderstanding his genius for trolling

[undone beacon]

he's a genie

https://tenor.com/view/pepega-pls-xqc-dance-pepega-dance-pepe-pls-pepega-gif-16147647

[orchid narwhal]

if you want a slightly more indepth answer than what was given

During the boss and overseer on an 18, you basically need to have last stand running during double proxy strike

You did rthe first part of shield wall fine, but its not enough for double proxy + melee from boss

[idle copper]

PSF - right mini boss, he's doing an ?AoE blast this is pretty much one shotting the group, he has to be fought on his own? I usually pull it with the pat

[orchid narwhal]

Your healer doesn't have enough time to react, so you need to either purposely proc cheat death here by not shield walling, so the 80% doesn't kick in or last stand + impendent victory as fast as you can

Spell reflect evens out the damage abit more as well

[lusty grotto]

pull him to the back, where people can LoS

[coarse bay]

The pat can be dangerous and a lot of routes avoid it, pulling the footmen on the left into mininoss

[nocturne spindle]

uhhh

[idle copper]

ty

[nocturne spindle]

yea you can just wall+reflect and take both perfectly fine

even on a 19

[orchid narwhal]

Yeah juts throwing out more than one answer if you want options

They'll all work fine

[nocturne spindle]

nothing else in that room hurts so you should have both up for the proxies always

[lusty grotto]

if you meen this one Six

[orchid narwhal]

Sometimes you just mislick the shield wall twice, so I've had to come up with a diff answer

[nocturne spindle]

no

he means fire nim

which yea

just hurts

[lusty grotto]

ah

[nocturne spindle]

healer issue

[lusty grotto]

yeah

can just dwarf the dot

forge master yea?

"last stand"

lol

jesus christ

15s MDR cd

"just use last stand"

and "proc your cheat" lol

[orchid narwhal]

Whats wrong with those answers

[nocturne spindle]

i mean the cheat death should never be used intentionally unless its like 100% necessary

[orchid narwhal]

Sure, but sometimes you're in a pinhc and you know you have it, and you use it

Thats all

[ripe ravine]

thanks a lot for the answer, thats what i was looking for

[orchid narwhal]

No worries mate, theoretically all you need is shield wall + SR, but sometimes thigns happen 🙂

[sharp merlin]

Does Rsham healing do more healing through damage?

As in more damage = more heals, like us.. more rage = more surv

[lusty grotto]

no

but their mastery increases healing at lower HP

[wary hinge]

Mythic Tomb with Cartel chips ? 🙂

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

the guides have lists

[wary hinge]

Thanks, love you!

[lusty grotto]

no u

[spiral copper]

Should i change my Interlopers on hero to myth track boots until i get them on myth track?

[lusty grotto]

what do you mean

[spice iron]

The Wowhead guide mentions trinkets above boots, but we've currently hit the point were we're extending our lockout until Saladbar and Dimensius is dead, so I won't see any raid drops until the end of progression. Myth track tome is a 50k dps upgrade, but I don't have the boots yet. I'd replace myth track boots with the cantrip boots if I were to spend Dinars on it, so there'd be no dps upgrade, but I wager the slight survivability increase might be better than the 50k dps increase.
What would the better choice be here?

[lusty grotto]

its not

[spiral copper]

if i get myth boots with crit haste, should i take them over hc interlopes

[lusty grotto]

the slight surv increase is not worth

over trinkets

[lusty grotto]

oh yup

[spiral copper]

thx ❤️

[hardy snow]

@jagged pier after today's farm we played very well and smashed him in 6 pulls

[lusty grotto]

gzzzz

we'll see how we do this week

[jagged pier]

good for u we are not

[lusty grotto]

how come

[hardy snow]

total 313 pulls so it doesnt that great tho XD

[jagged pier]

ppl like to get mindcontrolled to the spirits for some reason

[lusty grotto]

[hardy snow]

during prog we had like two entire raid days, over 40 pulls each with no P2 because of that 😐

and I dont mean like begining, but after we already had pulls with platforms cleared

overall interesting boss

[lusty grotto]

we had a fun blind thing going on last week

[jagged pier]

well we didnt not make progress

but like comeone

[lusty grotto]

where we were figuring out if the pattern in p2 was random

[jagged pier]

phase 1 is a joke

[lusty grotto]

instead of looking it up

[jagged pier]

so is phase 2

after like 50 pulls

u shouldnt be wiping in p1

[hardy snow]

isnt p1 hardest?

[jagged pier]

yes and i still think its easy

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats what we've been told too

[jagged pier]

its really not hard

[lusty grotto]

i can see it being an issue with casters though

it def doesnt feel hard as melee

[jagged pier]

no u can spicifcally make it easy for range

[lusty grotto]

if you bait nados well

[jagged pier]

with bait breaths and things

[lusty grotto]

ye

[jagged pier]

and where u put your soaks

[lusty grotto]

i was having fun reflecting the dragon wall 😄

[hardy snow]

yea, its not that hard for dps indeed

[lusty nova]

Any thoughts on a 730 shield (crit/mastery) vs Ornately Engraved Amplifier (Crit/Haste) from vault? I already have the crafted shield vs a hero track neck.

Also Soleah's Secret Technique for the second week in a row >_<

[lusty grotto]

shield should be the pick there but

yeah it is the pick, you can just do weekly hardmodes for the neck

[lusty nova]

i would LOVE to do those, but i cant find where ppl are doing those

[lusty grotto]

are you NA?

or EU?

[lusty nova]

i came back to the game and dont know anyone and im not in a guild. NA

[lusty grotto]

if youre NA, they list them as keys

as in gambit usually

[lusty nova]

okay, so its under streets or gambit

oh okay, weird

[lusty grotto]

ive seen a couple as streets

plus you can craft a neck

and if you dont have sparks, we get another one next week

more value on the 3 ilvl you gain from a myth shield

[lusty nova]

I use premade groups filter so maybe that's somehow filtering out those runs? i only see a lot of adds, and then legit keys

[lusty grotto]

i use PSF too

[lusty nova]

Thank you for the advice

[lusty grotto]

just filter by those two dungeons and scroll

usually the people that do them are high rated so after a refresh they go straight to the top

[lusty nova]

alright, i'll keep those in mind, and I'll go with the shield!

[lusty grotto]

yeah just a craft a neck meanwhile, just in case

[lusty nova]

yeah, i mean it doesnt hurt to craft every slot that isnt 727

other than tier/trinkets and i dont think you can double craft rings

[lusty grotto]

you can

[lusty nova]

oooh, interesting...I'll have to keep that in mind then. ty for clarifying

[astral nest]

for m+, do we prefer heroic raid boots or 727 crafted

[lusty grotto]

myth raid boots preferably

but crafted are fine, without embelish

if by raid boots you mean interlopers

[astral nest]

yea interlopers

myth raid not an option but i have the heroic interlopers

cant tell if the extra hps via interlopers is better than 727 crafted

[lusty grotto]

hero track arent that hot

myth any boots are better

and then crafted, yes

[astral nest]

thank you ❤️

[fallen marlin]

hello guys, i have normal feet from hunters and i dont have luck to loot it in hc shall i buy them from vendor or maybe craft 627 feet ?

[lusty grotto]

craft

[fallen marlin]

ty

[toxic pewter]

[jovial kite]

if we arent in the camp that has access to myth raid, what is the best use for dinars?

[lusty grotto]

hero brand, myth tome / pacemaker / idol

[jovial kite]

hero brand over the others? or any of the four

[lusty grotto]

yeah pretty much

the last 3 can go in any order you want

and depending on what you need and the content you run

[nocturne spindle]

idol stinky

[naive panther]

I have myth tome, pace, eradicating, astral, still think i should dinar brand?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[sinful stone]

717 tome vs 730 arcanocore?

[nocturne spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[errant oriole]

are prot warriors going haste vers or haste crit now?

[mighty valley]

either haste/sim

or haste/whatever feels good to you

[errant oriole]

if i stick with colossus crit would make mroe sense wouldnt it? 😛

[lusty grotto]

tome

but yeah sim will tell you how arcanocore is bad with tank trinket reduction

well, not bad, but should be worse

[lusty grotto]

crit makes more sense for both

but this season has a lot of haste versa items

@warm plinth do you know if IP transfers between characters? like if i wanted to do the chosen dead achieves for alts, would i have to refarm?

[undone beacon]

Soul hunters question, when Ire is dispelled it jumps to the next closest player, yeah?

Because my healers are saying its going to people it shouldnt be

[lusty grotto]

guess what dropped from our reclear

ez myth brand

jk not ez, we barely get trinkets

week #9 without Arcanocores btw

as in we've never gotten it

[mighty valley]

Major Uppies!

[undone beacon]

MAJOR

UPPIES

I want in on the next reclear

We're progging hunters rn :(

[tight mural]

SH down in 37 pulls! Got it in less pulls than fract cause we were progging fract when he was bugged lol. No brand, but a good spot for dinars 😄

[undone beacon]

we put 31 in and got it to 29% at our best tonight, hoorah

pain

[lusty grotto]

from no brand to myth brand

C:

[tight mural]

From 29 to dead was like 6 pulls. Most of prog was figuring out intermission. The rest was just cleaning it up. You got it!

[lusty grotto]

its our last reclear iirc, we're going on lock out next week

[tight mural]

I meant no brand dropped, had hero already.

[lusty grotto]

no i meant me

[undone beacon]

Something is wrong with our ire soak groups, once we figure that out boss is dead

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

[undone beacon]

Ire dispels are supposed to send debuff to next closest player, yeah?

[lusty grotto]

yup

[undone beacon]

People are saying it’s jumping to the wrong targets

[lusty grotto]

uhhh

[undone beacon]

I’m tanking so I’m not watching that closely but apparently it’s going on the dispelling healer instead of the person the current ire is stacked with?

[lusty grotto]

yeah...

[undone beacon]

I have… no idea

[lusty grotto]

you guys arent doing the ping thing right?

cause that shit never worked for us

[undone beacon]

No we’re doing the macro-less version of liquids

[lusty grotto]

we just do it natty

yeah

but im not sure, there was no issues tonight

[undone beacon]

But like, apparently player one stands on player two, ire goes to player two, player two stands on player three, ire goes to player four

Which… idk how

Because if we clean that up the rest is just making sure people don’t stand in shit, we had no issues in intermissions

Do you have a copy of y’all’s note?

Just to make sure I have mine set right

[tight mural]

Oh fucking amazing gz!!

[undone beacon]

I’ll just have to watch recordings tomorrow and see if I can spot what was up

Just wanna clean this boss up so I can go wanna die on nexus

[lusty grotto]

i might

1 sec

[frosty mango]

This shit makes it really hard

Just do the ping

[undone beacon]

The macro ping thing?

[lusty grotto]

the ping sucks

[frosty mango]

No just literally call on disc

[lusty grotto]

pash did you get those?

[frosty mango]

And the next person pings themselves

The macro shit makes it really chaotic idk how people do it like that

[lusty grotto]

oh yeah hold on

the macro thing.... can bug out

due to distance

we've had it happen

[frosty mango]

Same for us

[lusty grotto]

we just hard assign and they know how to do it, with comms

if no comms, then yeah pinging might be best

[warm plinth]

Power isn't shared sadly. Every toon has to grind independently

[frosty mango]

We literally just call on disc when we gotta dispel and the next person pings themselves, person with the dispel goes up to them and it gets dispelled

[lusty grotto]

goddamn it ghash 🙁

[frosty mango]

I don’t usually have to do ire, monk things

Unless I gotta sham

[warm plinth]

You think it should be easy to play alts in the everyone op limited time game mode?! Heresy

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

I might look into having us just do pings without macro and I’ll call when it’s time, I can set up an mrt reminder for myself to call it lmao

[lusty grotto]

aight time

if you do pings

[frosty mango]

“You must continue to pull the lever until you can no longer push further”

[lusty grotto]

make a recommendation for everyone else to turn of ping sounds cause it can drive people crazy

and then remind them to turn em back on after

[undone beacon]

$5 says the “catch up” will be account wide IP

Good call yeah

[frosty mango]

This will happen if people are standing out there where they shouldn’t be

[jagged grove]

Yo, why are people flaming me for going right side on priory?

[lusty grotto]

cause they are dumb

[frosty mango]

What key level

[frosty mango]

But this is the likely answer, lol

[jagged grove]

Is it that bad? Saw a raider io route and went w it

[lusty grotto]

right side is the only side

[frosty mango]

No it’s the ideal route assuming your dps brains and can kick

[jagged grove]

Happened in a 12 and in a 13

[undone beacon]

Yeah, gonna be checking all the replays tomorrow to see

[frosty mango]

They are flaming you because 99% of the people running those keys are used to w key routes and right side requires the tiniest smidge of brain power

[jagged grove]

Lmao i got kicked from the 13 as soon as i linked route so thats why i was wondering

Il go left i guess

[frosty mango]

I mean

They gotta wait for another tank

You’ll have a new group in 10’seconds

[jagged grove]

Yep lol, il find a good left side route and get at it

[frosty mango]

https://threechest.io?id=aouo3rfxlkj

this is what I run for going left in lower keys

pull 5 can be kinda rough on groups who are bad at kicks

pull 8 is a chain, you dont wanna pull that all at once

[fathom oasis]

Idk if 3chest isnt working properly, but I see a right route, not a left one

[fathom oasis]

This is my standard left route: https://threechest.io?id=aouo3rfxlkj

• I don't love skipping the pat after pull 3, but you can adapt if people mess it up
• For pull 5, just stick to the wall and dont use any skills, you simply body pull the 2 groups of footmen as you walk to the back wall (if you pull them with skills the sharpshooters will also get pulled), and then you pull miniboss from there
• Once miniboss is dead you need ro quickly go back hugging the western wall and pull the running lieutenant before he reaches the trash that was close to the miniboss you just killed

[blazing zinc]

Hello, what weapon enchant do you recommend for high key m+? I see crazy variety of what ppl use - Radiant power, Oathsworn's, Council's...

[fathom oasis]

Any logs?

[lofty glen]

What do we buy with dinar? dont do myth raid.

1.Shield
2.Sword
3.Tome
?

[warm plinth]

Whatever Sims best

[blazing zinc]

and would you use Leech or Speed on an item? (I have 2 same rings, one has Leech, one has Speed) 😂

[warm plinth]

Leech is what I would go for if they are identical

[blazing zinc]

ty!

[tardy sequoia]

a guildmate of mine told me that talents on wowhead / icyveins aren't good to follow and one should make his talent build. is he correct? I mean, I follow both wowhead / icyveins and archon and to me it's a good way to make one's build. for example, he told me a vers build is better to be a sturdy tank. but to me, given what's written in guides, ilvl is most important, followed by haste/crit. also enchants, now vers enchants are not that common. am i right?

[jagged pier]

your friend is huffing something

[fathom oasis]

All stats are important. It's just that you need a certain amount of Haste before you can use the recommended set of talents. Crit trinkets this season are very good, but all the other 3 stats are good, and we simply go for whichever one that makes us hit harder.

All secondary stats make us sturdier, too, so the versa argument is a sham

Feelscraft is fine when you only handicap yourself, but it's kinda unhinged to preach to others about your own feelscraft lol

[sinful copper]

can i do 18 priory without invis skip to start?

or is that inting?

[jagged pier]

give it a go and see

porbably do able now as everyone is 730

much more damage

[sinful copper]

yeah thats true

i wouldnt say.... everyone is 730 yet haha

[jagged pier]

[sinful copper]

most are 725 tho which is pretty good

[jagged pier]

slacker

[sinful copper]

😢

[paper crypt]

Haha imagine having the rings and shield drop to be 730, can't relate

[sinful copper]

but my trinkets are both heroic and i dont rly myth raid. sadge

[ocean smelt]

Just buy Loomitar's shield with dinars

[jagged pier]

that would be a waste of a dinar

[ocean smelt]

I guess but there is not much to buy either tbf

Since the only items worth buying require 5/8 mythic

[paper crypt]

It dropped yesterday and went to a resto shaman. Tragedy. 😆

To be fair I'm DPS'ing for my guild rather than tanking, so they have no reason to give it to me.

[ocean smelt]

oof

[sinful copper]

this mage got global'ed. didnt know junk mail hit that hard...

just the little corner pack with boss

[round pendant]

You shouldn't follow that guildmate's advice on anything ever based on this one interaction

[finite lily]

proxy strike in streets hitting me for 17 mil, do i have to save shield wall for it? isnt it only like 3sec cd?

[warm plinth]

Cooldowns for mob abilities don't mean anything. They cast proxy strike approximately every 32 seconds

[sharp merlin]

Shield wall + SR

As a proxy strike survivor, please double the defensives haha

[round pendant]

17m? sounds like you didn't die

[tardy sequoia]

brand of ceaseless ire is also good on Hero isn't it?

[jagged pier]

yes

[tardy sequoia]

and is seaforium better in M+ and ire for raid or should I sim for better accuracy?

[warm plinth]

Brand should be a fixture in keys as long as you commit to not dropping its stacks

The other trinket can be pacemaker, tome, antenna, whatever

[finite lily]

SR?

[paper stump]

I would look at the prot war in warcraft logs for each raid boss / mythic dungeon and copy with some adjustment that suits my needs.

[warm plinth]

Spell Reflection

[finite lily]

can i SR proxy strike??

[warm plinth]

You can reduce the damage with it

SR is not just the reflect part; it's magic damage reduction as well

[tardy sequoia]

cuz now I have seaforium + tome, but I purchased brand with dinars and was looking to swap seaforium with brand

so I'm cool with brand + tome for both M+ and raid right?

[warm plinth]

Yes

Well, for raid, brand might not be the best. It takes 4 minutes to get full stacks on brand, so if your kill times are fast, then it may not be worth it

[tardy sequoia]

ok so seaforium + tome for raid ty

[blazing shuttle]

Damn it. So a heroic brand would be better than, say, a mythic pace?

In m+?

(Imma just anyway)

[lusty juniper]

Does anyone have a good route for +16 gambit?

[tardy sequoia]

try quazii or tactyks or yoda

[round pendant]

gambit is all about not shitting the bed on the dragon boss

the rest is free

[lofty glen]

i have camp track Brand and hero track tome. both crafted weps....is it worth buying brand on hero then when i dont raid? it feels kinda wasted cause i hve the feeling BiS Shield would be more value

[finite lily]

if i only play m+, would u guys go for hero brand or myth track tome?

[ocean smelt]

I'd go for hero brand