protection

[dusky canopy]

I need to kill this rare elite and I cant solo it lmao

[warm plinth]

Because we changed from Colossus to Mountain Thane. Colo prioritizes revenge, Thane prioritizes thunder clap/blast

[frank crystal]

anyone have excel where can i see the relfectable spell on s3¿

[jagged pier]

[indigo hawk]

Why did I died here please ?
I got Shield Block up and I'm front facing the mob (mini-boss before lass boss of Dawnbreaker)

I only mitigated by 25% his Melee ?? Why ?

[frosty mango]

If you are being outdpsed by another warrior 99.999999999999999% of the time it’s one of two things

They are playing better than you

They got better tier rng than you

There is virtually no scenario where secondary stats account for a large difference in dps - you could stack mastery/vers, play zero haste and run heavy repercussions and still rip orange parses

[warm plinth]

That mob's auto attacks are (for some unknown reason) not blockable.

[indigo hawk]

Ah I know why !

It's mean that his melee deal Shadow Damage

But don't really explain why it's not blockable...

But probably a bug with this feature

[warm plinth]

Yeah and it's not really a reason, as we've blocked shadow melees in the past.

[frosty mango]

Yes but that was technically spell block

[warm plinth]

Nope

[frosty mango]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[warm plinth]

Mistress whats-her-face in Tomb's eels meleed for shadow damage

And we could still block them

[kind urchin]

There have been through time spells that were blockable and magic and spells that were reflectable and physical. Those are the exception, not the rule.

[indigo hawk]

Well I did not blocked them and they went straight into my ass

[warm plinth]

I'm aware of that. I was stating that them being shadow damage doesn't instantly mean that they should not be blockable, because we have had exceptions to that in the past.

[hollow patio]

I just got a fat melee from Fractillus because i had like 0.5 seconds left from the debuff after my tank got the tank hit. Is that normal? Never happened to me before

[frosty mango]

Other tank went out of melee range

Happens a lot in pugs

[mellow bridge]

that mob does 100% magic dmg and is not blockable

on pull, immediately use a defensive, at the very least SR

afterwards it should be chill as she spends most of the time casting some shit

[warm plinth]

Yeah I checked a number of logs and she only melees like 6-8 times usually

over the course of the fight

[delicate garden]

do sims work for brand of ceasless ire?

its saying antenna sims a lot higher for 1 min 5 targets

[warm plinth]

Yeah, it would say that. Ire has to ramp up

[indigo hawk]

Yeah it’s what I will do now thank you!

[mellow rivet]

Hello guys, what type of 1h wep do we pref ? I would like to craft on my reroll prot war pls

[frosty mango]

One with a high item level that gives strength

[mellow rivet]

Yh but we doesnt care about damage range ?

[warm plinth]

Damage range doesn't matter for anyone at any time

[dawn turret]

Anyone online able to recraft my sword to 227 please? Sick of spamming trade lol

[warm plinth]

Crafting is server-specific outside of guild. Try making a toon on the other faction and asking in trade there.

[novel temple]

Slam’s getting rolled into revenge in midnight though

So revenge will finally be nice on more than just aoe

[vital vale]

genius havoc retreats off platform on soleah and stay there unable to die for the entire fight

we had to do each star wave twice since 4 players

also on first boss the DK disconnects while holding a rune so we werent able to get past intermission until he came back which was too late so we had to die and restart fight

crazy how you find bad players even as high as 14s this late in this season

not that a disconnect makes you bad

but just the general vibe

tho its fun i enjoy the pug crazyness

[frosty mango]

i would argue that most players in 14s this late in the season will be mostly "bad"

the "good" players will be doing either top range keys for IO (16-19) or 12s for weekly crests

the only people doing 14s are the people pushing them for IO - which at this far into the season are likely at the top end of their skill range, so you are playing mostly with people are barely made it past 13 and are trying to get past 14 - but are failing for whatever reason

bad and good relative to the top end, not in general

[vital vale]

i would agree with that assessment

i guess most do 12s for vault, i just search for 12-14 for vault and i saw gambit so i grabbed it cus its quick

usually

[warm plinth]

I love the shaman: "?"

[lusty grotto]

nah

[native isle]

Can someone point me to optimal stats as prot war? how much haste do I need?

[lusty grotto]

higher than 21k rating if you want to talent ITF otherwise you run Heavy Rep

thats it

you just use haste and sim the other stats

there are no optimal numbers

or goal posts

[native isle]

I played with 21k for some time while I was learning prot. but saw my shield block falling for like 4 sec during some pulls. dont I need more to keep shield block up? I mostly care about high m+ survivability. not raid dmg

[lusty grotto]

m+ or raid doesnt matter

[native isle]

aight, so 21k should be enough?

[lusty grotto]

if you have gaps with ITF at 21k, consider going heavy rep until you go higher

it is enough, as a bare minimum, but its ok to use HR if you cant deal with it

just keep getting haste and make the swap to ITF again and see how it goes

but play HR for now

[native isle]

aight thanks

[empty basin]

hi all just curious what to do here i can upgrade my 710s to 717 but just had pacemaker drop and dont know if its worth keeping, i see on archon its popular with brand but is tome just better?

[lusty grotto]

its worth keeping

just upgrade 2 of them and then the uppies to the 3rd will be free

whichever you want

[empty basin]

is it worth using tho over tome? or should i just pass it on to a dps friend in my group

[lusty grotto]

dont pass it

unless youre gonna buy it with a dinar

[empty basin]

i could just get in on dinar i dont have much else needed from keys

[lusty grotto]

ok then go ahead

[empty basin]

ok thank you

[fierce light]

is it better than running antenna and ire in M+?

[lusty grotto]

what is

antenna replaces pace

arguably

brand is a hard slot

this all depends on tracks and ilvl

[cerulean tusk]

I am a big fan of Brand + Tome, mainly cause I like tome and brand showing big numbers

[strong forum]

antenna is a bit iffy as tank

quite annoying to play around

pacemaker is super consitent with no thought required

[sinful copper]

I would never use tome in m+

Save that for raid

[lusty grotto]

you use:

1. Brand always (except where you cant maintian stacks- i.e. reclearing raid at sub 4min kill times, or on keys where you cant maintain stacks consistently)
2. Tome - always on ST + when you dont have prio target in Keys/AOE
3. Atenna on AOE
4. Pacemaker on AOE if you dont wanna micromanage orbs

[lusty grotto]

too bad for you, i just did 4 keys with it

🤷‍♂️

[sinful copper]

No, too bad for YOU

[lusty grotto]

nah

cooked take

but you do you

[sinful copper]

All my DPS parses are 95+ in m+ nowadays. I'm cranking those DPS numbers

[lusty grotto]

parsing in keys isnt hard lol

far way too many fotm rerollers flooding the lower dps ranges

doing negative dps

[sinful copper]

Hahahah

[lusty grotto]

inflates parses

[sinful copper]

Gotta keep doing 5.5-6m

[cerulean tusk]

Wait, 5m is good?

[warm plinth]

It's better than most

[cerulean tusk]

I thought I was doing shit dam, after seeing monks do 8-9m, guess that just scuffed my reality

[dense cradle]

5m more than most dps pugs i see in the sub 13 key range

[polar pelican]

it depends on the dungeon also

you arent gonna do more than 7m in a streets

[dense cradle]

db too probably

[sinful copper]

6m in streets is like a 99 parse

[sinful copper]

U can check yourself in a log. It's lower than details cuz of out of combat stuff too

[cerulean tusk]

You can go into details and set overall DPS instead of active DPS

Its a lot closer

[warm plinth]

I don't even break 5 in streets

pulls too smol

[solid sun]

I break streets

Not numbers

[cerulean tusk]

Pull everything, have funnel blast elite so boss comes out so you can funnel it. Run like a moron, pull mini with dogos, pulling into cats and to the cart. Then pull the badlands pack into menagerie. Then miniboss with friends into, if you read so far, you a lost cause. Then blast postmaster and finally snap the three packs to boss wth misdirection. All ez pz lemon squeeze

[round pendant]

I mean I've been parsing 95-99 with Tome so

[nocturne spindle]

free from floodgate jail

[lusty grotto]

gzzz

[mortal cypress]

is that ur dog in ur pfp?

[nocturne spindle]

ye

[mortal cypress]

tell him he is a good boy

[nocturne spindle]

okay will do

[frosty mango]

If you do 6m in streets you’re pulling big and you have banger dps

Only key I can’t break 6 in

And struggle to get much above 5 on most pugs lol

[nocturne spindle]

you can break 6 on gambit?

[frosty mango]

I have yea

But I had to do some shenanigans at the end lol

Like pulling almost all of the last area

And unstable rifts may have killed my group

By my dps was great

[signal field]

can you spell reflect netherblast on saladbar? its not listed on the spreadsheet

[frosty mango]

I don’t believe so

It has a cannot miss tag

Typically those can’t be reflected (because they’re fight mechanics)

The Dr may work

[grim pilot]

6m in streets is crazy work

Unless on weekly type keys

Idk how much u can do there

[frosty mango]

it was a 14 so

no shot you rip 6m in a 17+

the sizes of the pulls youd need to do

no chance lol

[grim pilot]

Ye i think i do 5, 5 something

On 20-21

And those are purple+ parses so its a good dps

Idk 6m sounds insane

[frosty mango]

I think im around 5.2-5.4 in the 17s/18s Ive failed

you have to go right

I think

which is crazy talk

[grim pilot]

Yeah aint gonna happen

[frosty mango]

those mobs are wild

lol

[grim pilot]

Db 6m is also good

Think my max was like 6.1

Waiting for wednesday huge spike in gear

[frosty mango]

yeah but I think you can get a lot of milage in DB if you have good funnel

bosses eat your dps

[grim pilot]

Can always pad on anub

But pad is time loss so w.e

[frosty mango]

im pretty cooked on this season tbh the thought of going past 18 without a group is painful

i cant believe we gotta do this till feb

[warm plinth]

Just take a Lil remix break

[solid sun]

Roid hates fun

Won’t do remix

Roidberg - fun not-haver

[humble relic]

nucleus trinket kinda shit"

?

[frosty mango]

lol

I’m not a fan of remix game mode

I can see how a lot of people will enjoy it’s just not for me

I will just not play once dim is down

Or play alts

I already got 4 bis chars tho im kinda alted out lol

[undone beacon]

I’m running around lemix on a thicc spriest

Is very fun

[sinful copper]

It's mostly for bad players to chill and feel like they're playing Diablo. Infinite growth and one shotting everything and doing greater rifts

[frosty mango]

Isn’t that just turbo boost

lol

[round pendant]

I can't

[hollow patio]

No, I taunted the boss because he did the Tank slam on my mate. But for some reason I still had the debuff for a short time and got meleed

At this point we both had the debuff at the same time so who is supposed to take the melee hit?^^

[sharp merlin]

The Rio thirst is so real, the amount of “do you have flood/ak/priory on resi?”

No, I do not want to be spending hours wiping on first pull 🗿

[nocturne spindle]

guys im spooky io

[sour valley]

So has anyone here experienced Anub'ikkaj double casting terrifiying slam in dawnbreaker? I just had this shit happen in a +17 lol

[nocturne spindle]

ones the melee hit ones the magic hit

itll always do that

[sour valley]

I never experienced this tho, like through my shield wall aswell kek

[nocturne spindle]

mmmm

das a doubt

no shot it does 30m with shield wall up

[sour valley]

That's what I am confused by

[nocturne spindle]

unless you took it to the back on the melee hit

post da logs

[sour valley]

Nah, I've done like 3x 17 dawns yesterday and this just came outta nowhere

Don't think I have logs, can check

[raw whale]

I also experienced this behavior after getting hit by the orb

[hollow patio]

Do you have logs?

Nvm

[fierce light]

you’re a demon

[raw whale]

I suppose the orb damage removed the IP. I also fiddled around when I had my 17 resil, and figured at around 713ilvl that I needed both shield wall and any other defensive. sometimes sw+spell reflect wasn't enough if my ip weared off

[sour valley]

Sadly no logs from this run :/

[sour valley]

Hm might've been that. I just got abit shocked when it happened since it's usually not a problem haha

[raw whale]

Yeah I had the exact same reaction. If you plan on pushing and want to get better I suggest to get an auto combat logger + warcraft recorder

The exponential damage buff from keys to keys can sometimes be very surprising

[sour valley]

Yeah got a new PC recently so gotta reinstall that it seems

Especially for moments like these :p

[nocturne spindle]

yea you def did not have shield wall up

totally unmitigated on a 17 the magic damage portion does 19.98M

assuming that 12m hit is the magic damage

wasnt shield wall mitigated

[sour valley]

Wouldn't that mean that shield wall mitigated 40% if it hit for 12m?

[nocturne spindle]

naw cause you have default mit

d stance

vers

some IP probably up

[sour valley]

5m IP as the screenshot shows at 86% hp

[nocturne spindle]

boss probably had tblast debuff

[sour valley]

Yeah must've been a serious of unlucky events and a miss from me ig

Wish I had a log

[mellow bridge]

looking at how much that phys part hurt, you might've even dropped SB ngl

nvm
im dumb

def no SW tho, on my 18 with just SW and IP the phys part does like 3 mil post absorb

[peak carbon]

Anyone who can bother to take a look at my log for a 16 Floodgate? I am new to Prot Warrior and generally only play Prot Paladin. My damage generally seems way lower than it should be.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/x94cymvZNk8MHBD6?fight=16&type=summary

Not sure if its me spending Violent Outbursts incorrectly, pressing revenge too seldom or if there is something else missing. I have tried to look at top logs, but they seem to be running execute talents. Not sure if that is needed to do good DPS also. Anyhow, I feel like I should be able to get a way better log than this if I know what I am doing wrong

Would be nice if someone could bother to take a look🙏

Or maybe this is better done in the log review channel, can move it if thats the case

[jagged pier]

U waste a tone of rage stop doing that

U should have this talent

And u should be closer to 90% blocked hits

Someone check is VB usage my phone wont let me

[fringe lava]

This talent, why is it that all the top runs opt out of it?

[peak carbon]

I was never in any danger of dying, its just that my damage was lack-luster. But I shouldnt waste rage, so thats a fair tip

I guess I just have to mash IP even harder

[raw whale]

It's more survival, this talent gives about 5-6% of damage reduction. You may say you get more vers and take an offensive talent instead to clear packs faster. I personnally use this talent because i play in pug, but my idea is that top runs need more damage to time and having a coordinated group is better than having to spend point on more survival

[jagged pier]

The top ppl run it because literally unga bunga i dont need

When its the equiviently of playing with a 713ilvl shield when u ahve a 730 in your bag

U wouldnt do that would you?

Like u get margin ither 3% dps with BB or a bit more rage through bloodsurge

Your also, not the top and mot running in their group

[fringe lava]

I never said I didnt run it, Ive just seen that the top runs are without it 😊

[peak carbon]

But still, there must be more wrong with my log than just wasting some rage with that mediocre log no?

In regards to the dmg-profile

[jagged pier]

I cant see your voilent oitburst uasge so i dont know

And wasting that much rage isnt medicore

Its massive

Alsp ypur blocked hit being low is really bad

Also if your damage is bad and ypur not in trouble as you say why areny u just running the dps build?

If u care about damage

[peak carbon]

So I assume that you more or less cannot get good logs without running the execute build then?

[dawn turret]

Anyone able to screenshot the kind of benchmark for stat percentages? Only started prot this season (only started playing wow beginning tww) just so I can have a look. I know its Haste>crit=vers but Im not sure on percentage and soft/hard caps etc. Cheers.

[raw whale]

Just by getting the Brand of Ceaseless Ire can give you around 10% dps more

[jagged pier]

Parsing in keys is all about your group

If your pugging u arent going to log

There will alsp definatly be ppl playing the exctue build in 16s

[jagged pier]

Theres nothing like that, just sim

[dawn turret]

Is there a way to sim for prot or is it all just simmed as dps aye?

[peak carbon]

I have great logs on my Paladin pugging, which is why I wonder. But I assume no brand and no execute build in lower keys makes it pretty hard to log well

[jagged pier]

Your suriviability comes from play not stats

[peak carbon]

Answers it pretty well, thanks. Always appreciate some tough love

[dawn turret]

Thank you

[raw whale]

is it just me or the violent outburst talent isn't displayed on the summary ?

[peak carbon]

🤔 Cant promise that I had it, but I sure hope I did. I aint confident enough with Warrior that I know what talents to take, so I might have missed having it as well

Seems silly if so

[strong forum]

Uhoh

Yeah you definitely didn't play it

[round pendant]

lmao

That'll do it

[strong forum]

Way too many points spent at the 1st and 2nd gate

You're losing shit ton of damage because of that

[peak carbon]

😎

Aight, but then I think I know what I did wrong lol. I'll get a better build and spam IP better

Thanks all

[strong forum]

i recommend playing the wowhead certified talents builds #ad !

[somber hollow]

am i tripping or is there no way for nexus king to hit you in the back while youre looking at your ghost?

[jagged pier]

he casting so no

[frosty mango]

Oh interesting, the other way from what I thought you said, not much you can do there lol

[tardy sequoia]

when people in my keys group die except of me, could it realistically be my fault? for example during boss aoe or mobs abilities. it's not an aggro problem

[frosty mango]

Indirectly yes, like if you pull too many casters for your comp or bad overlap combos but generally no

Usually when people die it’s either missed interrupt, no defensive, stood in bad

Like for example in a high floodgate if you pull big momma, the pull ends during jumpstart and your healer has no healing cooldowns and you immediately pull the bloodwarper pack

You will probably wipe and that is ultimately your fault for not recognizing the healer has no cds

[tardy sequoia]

and if only momma and no extra pack? same happened with dawnbreaker second boss during aoe

I mean only channeled

[warm plinth]

What did they die to? Some mechanics are harder to deal with based on positioning. Like if you have her tanked against a wall with the lightning on the ground on the other side, it'd gonna get real sketchy trying to dodge sonic boom and the add circles

And that would be your fault because you're the one responsible for positioning the boss

If they die to the intermission aoe, there's obviously nothing you can do about that

[unreal yarrow]

A better question than "is it my fault?", is "is there something I can do to improve play to keep it from happening again?"

Sometimes the answer is no. Sometimes it's yes even if not "your fault"

[frosty mango]

Nothing here you can really do besides rally

If they die to that aoe they didn’t defensive or healer can’t keep up

[peak carbon]

Pretty hard to say, but how you tank a boss etc can make the encounter a lot easier or harder.

If you tank Broodmother incorrectly in AraKara for example, the fight gets a ton harder, but you cant do much about the fact that people die to Big Mommas AoE. So it all depends

[frosty mango]

There are ways you can support those bosses by pulling the dungeon in a way that helps ensure the healer has cds available

But the standard routes do that

So unless you’re running some jank ass route I doubt that is an issue

Your ability to directly influence people dying as a warrior is basically zero

Don’t point boss at people, press rally

Bout all you got

[lofty warren]

What is the chance?

[lusty grotto]

its 3 ppm hastened

[jagged pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1429847035187822745/image.webp?ex=68f7a052&is=68f64ed2&hm=a31de90229088edf0f0794aef322564f489bfb69c672b4e001b1a9c652f6ea77&

[lusty grotto]

[boreal haven]

If i have Outburst active, do we always use on Shield Slam or is it okay to spend it on a Thunderblast ?

[lusty grotto]

SS on ST

TB on 2+ targets

TC on 7+ targets if no TB is up

[boreal haven]

Thanks

And how do i play correctly to not get "SS" CD starved when Outburst is active ?

[lusty grotto]

what do you mean

[boreal haven]

Im often on CD from SS when Outburst is up

[lusty grotto]

is this in pure ST?

[lusty grotto]

cause thats what i meant by this

if thats the case...

then you need to revenge or execute

but honestly

its not a huge loss to spend it on TB

[nocturne spindle]

Yea the whole goal of only sending IP when you are above 70 rage

Is to avoid that basically

If you hit that scenario you either got unlucky (which does happen regardless)

Or spammed ip

[boreal haven]

spending IP on 70+ Rage only ?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[nocturne spindle]

Yes you don't send IP when you have low rage

[boreal haven]

Whats the Idea behind that ?

Sry new to Prot Warrior

[lusty grotto]

the idea is to not rage starve yourself

[nocturne spindle]

To make sure you have rage for revenge on downtime

[unreal yarrow]

You will be over 70 a lot as thane at least

Plenty of uptime

[boreal haven]

okay thx

[lusty grotto]

at 70 rage an outburst SS will rage cap you

we dont wanna waste rage by being capped, nor we want to be rage starved

so 70 is a good point to spend an off-gcd spender like IP

thats its only job

to spend rage

regardless of if its already up

you still send it

[boreal haven]

Okay got it.

That will help alot

Love you. Will go and equip now 🙂

[dry skiff]

does active damage reduction reduces the amount of damage you can reflect ?

[lusty grotto]

no

[frosty mango]

I believe spell reflect mitigation is calculated after wall though yeah?

Reflect = first but the mitigation portion comes after wall?

[nocturne spindle]

wouldnt matter

multiplicitave reductions in the same category

same end number

a reflect removes the mitigation buff though

i thinkt he only place that matters this season is reflecting a debuff in dawnbreaker if you were using it for the miniboss tankbuster in the church

can fuck you ove

[mellow bridge]

no it doesn't

hasnt for a while now

[lusty grotto]

DR is first in line

but it doesnt reduce reflected damage

and yea muyuu is correct

[strong forum]

that was patched in fucking dragonflight mein dude

[nocturne spindle]

am i crazy

i swear it takes the buff off me in dawnbreaker

[lusty grotto]

youre crazy

[grizzled nova]

Because it does

The reflect and the dr are two different buffs

[nocturne spindle]

oh

[grizzled nova]

if you're only tracking the reflect buff it'll disappear when it reflects something

[nocturne spindle]

yea i guess i flubbed my weak aura lol

[undone beacon]

smh my damn head

[dry skiff]

sorry for asking but i need 13 new characters sooooo, what's the fastest way to farm gilded ?

i heared people do delves and exchange rune for gilded. but i dont know which level to do or is there a trick

[cerulean tusk]

M+12s

[jagged pier]

12s

[dry skiff]

damn

[cerulean tusk]

12 crest farm runs are prob down to 9-10min each

so dont worry

will be quite fast

[lusty grotto]

thirteen new characters?

holy fuck

[orchid narwhal]

crikey who r u running with that u are running 10 minute 12 keys

[undone beacon]

What do you need 13 new characters for

[lusty grotto]

what is a job

[cerulean tusk]

Probably some challenge

[lusty grotto]

he wants to farm gilded for THIRTEEN CHARACTERS?

its one alt and i'd rather have a stroke

[cerulean tusk]

💰 ⬆️ 👍

[undone beacon]

Moneyrat Upthumb

That guy is cracked

[dry skiff]

friends are making 900k daiily. i want a piece

i need 15 characters

[boreal haven]

For what ?

[lusty grotto]

what in the fuck

[dry skiff]

boost

[lusty grotto]

why do you need 15 characters to boost

[dry skiff]

i;'m changing what i do for boost. this one requires 15 characters

[cerulean tusk]

Unsaved runs, I guess

[dry skiff]

15x unsaved heroic + mythic

[lusty grotto]

i mean leveling them is fine

but farming gilded????????????????

[cerulean tusk]

Man am I good

[lusty grotto]

the fuck

[cerulean tusk]

You want to speed run Nim

it is boosting

not "boosting"

[dry skiff]

good thing is i only require 710

[cerulean tusk]

710? Slackers

[lusty grotto]

man

[dry skiff]

apparently that's enough

[lusty grotto]

have you tried getting a job

[dry skiff]

until now i was doing m+, so i didnt need many characters

[lusty grotto]

you get paid, which you can use to buy tokens

and then buying the boosts lol

[dry skiff]

there are things i can not speak of, dont make me xD

[lusty grotto]

so much easier than farming gilded ON FIFTEEN CHARACTERS LOL

[dry skiff]

long story short i gotta clunch my butt chicks and farm

[cerulean tusk]

ya be suprised how little certain counties are paid in wages

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto Bro I’m killing it on remix! 583 ilvl and 1% vers!

[cerulean tusk]

HOLEY

[dry skiff]

This.

[lusty grotto]

so what youre saying is

hes RMTing

[dry skiff]

i'm not saying anything

[dusky canopy]

I know actual gamer

It’s crazy

[lusty grotto]

its heavily implied

[dry skiff]

it is what it si

[cerulean tusk]

It is implied, but it is also just a stated fact that currency values are just that

[lusty grotto]

im not ignorant to that situation

but

this is not the discord for that

[dry skiff]

i only asked for gilded guide T_T

[cerulean tusk]

You asked, ya got an answer

[cerulean tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

Go do em 12s now

[cerulean tusk]

Btw, I got almight 3%, and 601 ilvl

So

Get good

[dusky canopy]

I’m cooked he’s minutes ahead

Fff

[cerulean tusk]

Months of progress, and you say minutes

fbm

[lofty warren]

Why do you need fifteen characters

So he get 15 characters, and then gets them to 710 ilvl.. then does what to get 900k gold?

[lusty grotto]

topic is over, move on

[dusky canopy]

Nim are you operating the pepega account?

[lusty grotto]

your mom's account is more than enough

[dusky canopy]

[lofty warren]

Don't understand how having lots of 710 ilvls can be turned into gold unless she's doing some other tos stuff like mutliboxing and carrying to get all the boost gold but that would be hard to do as a healer, dps, and tank

[undone beacon]

I boost by multiboxxing 19 prot warriors in heroic raid and then carrying people one at a time, easy game

but i spread them out across difference races so i can do racial stress testing too

mmhm mmhm

Turns out goblin IS the best race

[lofty warren]

I thought about it but I think that's like real tough to do (multiplying different specs and roles)

[south wing]

Can someone look at my logs and give me like the 2 biggest issues I have why I'm parsing gray for my iLvl? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/wyrmrest-accord/ceeby

Specifically on plexus sentinel or Loomithar.

[mighty valley]

The biggest diff between you and top logs just seems to be execute damage

and bigger thunderblast avg cast which suggests not maximizing violent outburst/tier set on TB

[south wing]

Oh shit am I supposed to use violent outburst on TB on single target?

[mighty valley]

as i understand it, TB with the tier buff is just a higher prio than anything else

(besides CDs)

[lusty grotto]

no

SS is highest outburst prio in ST

outbust

outside of outburst, yes TB, more specifically tier procs have prio

again, very strictly in ST

so for both cases this is PURE ST:
Outburst: SS > TB > TC (this one you shouldnt ever use)
Non-VO: TB > SS > TC > Execute/Revenge

[mighty valley]

is wowhead lies

[lusty grotto]

"use violent outburst on shield slam"

what i said is basically what nome put there

[mighty valley]

right, but if you're following the priority literally, you'd hit TB even with outburst up

[lusty grotto]

i understand what youre saying but no

[mighty valley]

in any case you're prob just not spending tier procs as fast as the highest parses

[lusty grotto]

its just the caveat of having a single priority list for 3 different things: regular prio, outburst and rage

[frigid plume]

the difference between using VO on SS or thunder blast is so minute that if you have to think about it at all you've already lost more damage than you would potentially gain

[lusty grotto]

it is not minute

but like you mentioned, you dont wanna hold an TB proc when SS is down

[frigid plume]

if you go into simcraft and change the APL so that instead of prioritizing SS it doesn't prio either SS or thunder blast you get the same result

[lusty grotto]

that depeds on the length

on 3 mins or 1.5 mins sure

and again this discussion is strictly about ST

hit by hit SS will outperform TB with outburst

[frigid plume]

ya im talking about 5 min single target sim

[lusty grotto]

you dont even need a sim to see it

[frigid plume]

well i did just sim it and its the same

[mighty valley]

good thing this discussion is going away in midnight

[lusty grotto]

if we're optimizing, all you need is to hit an SS with Outburst and then hit a TB with outburst to see the difference

[mighty valley]

plus the rage gen diff

[lusty grotto]

but in a time window... it depends on a whole lotta shit like proc rates

so the sim statement is pretty useless

it is NOT minute

but once again, you do not want to hold a TB when SS is down

[lofty warren]

I've said this a number of times its not 100%

[mighty valley]

uh oh i've aligned with pepega

it's over for me

[lofty warren]

And if you read 12 and 13 it sounds like pressing revenge is always better then execute bc you can push revenge to apply would or fish for ss resets. I think it means push revenge in aoe and if less than 3 push execute

[lusty grotto]

execute also resets SS

[lofty warren]

So why is fish for resets even in there? 12 = if aoe then press revenge. Else skip this step.

13 = execute if targets ❤️

[mighty valley]

yeah i think knowing intuitively when to forsake normal priority for big fat executes is the biggest parse differentiator

and isn't captured in the literal priority list

[lusty grotto]

the fuck i know pepega, i dont memorize the prio that nome put there

i just know what to hit and when

12 and 13 might as well be "visit this site so you get scammed" or some shit

[orchid narwhal]

Yea could be written better

Messed with me too when I was learning

but its p minor, you sorta just pick it up when u play the class anyway

[warm plinth]

Good afternoon

[dry skiff]

when i hit 720, i'll get the gilded achievement ?

[undone beacon]

correct

[warm plinth]

I was under the impression you had to have each item to that item level, not just reach 720

That's how it works for the lower achievements anyway

[lusty grotto]

you get it with just 720

you just dont get discounts unless those item slots are up there

[dusky canopy]

Mine procd at 720 and still have hero items

[lusty grotto]

same

[grizzled nova]

Honestly the whole VO priority discussion is generally done backward

The realistic answer is: Never send VO on a base tclap.

Anything else is fine, just not a natty tclap.

[jagged pier]

no its never send on TB or TC realistically

aTB buffed

sure

SS sure

anything else nah

[undone beacon]

Yeah once you reach 720 you get the account discount from 15 -> 10 gildeds on upgrades you've already done, for example if you have an 8/8 myth chest on your main, upgrades on your alt's chest are 10 gilded

Its different than the other achieves because of the scarcity of myth items I presume

[solid sun]

Hi

[lusty grotto]

greetings

[undone beacon]

yo

[undone beacon]

holy shit

new yo just dropped

It makes me irrationally pleased that I can use discord decorations without spending a dime

[warm plinth]

Copy that

[solid sun]

For anyone who is also a tab targeter for getting to kicks

https://x.com/luxthos/status/1980339215973110088?s=46

Luxthos (@luxthos)

If you want your Tab Targeting to prioritize casting interruptible targets, simply enable this option in the settings!

X · Oct 20, 2025, 6:23 PM

Surely this is doable in any game where this is helpful right

Because I think that might be fellowship but if it could be done in wow or if that is wow mmmmmm

I would be very pleased

[dusky canopy]

If I’m not mistaken doesn’t WoW already do this passively?

[shrewd grove]

That is, in fact, Fellowship

[solid sun]

Idk mate I feel like sometimes I try to tab to a mob casting something and I gotta machinegun that thing

Fully automatic tab

Ratta tat tat on the tab key… ratta tab tab?

[dusky canopy]

Ratta git gud

HAH Gottem

[warm plinth]

It is Fellowship, but this is already a thing in WoW. Prot paladins even have a macro they use for this (I assume because it probably works better if you clear your target first and then target something with tab vs just tab targeting)

[solid sun]

What the heck

So we have it but it stinks

I want a do over

[sweet summit]

tab targeting for kicks is illegal behaviour

[solid sun]

You’re illegal behavior

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-me-not-moving-raccoon-standing-up-gif-17639976

[lusty grotto]

youre under arrest Rhino

[warm plinth]

I tab target for kicks if it's a huge ass pull because I'm not cut out to play call of duty with nameplates

[dusky canopy]

Exactly

[solid sun]

See Ghash gets it

[warm plinth]

especially when they're hiding each other and I can't click on the damn thing even if I wanted to

[solid sun]

Yeah!

I’m not alone!

There’s an affliction and we need a cure!

[warm plinth]

But realistically idk why we can't just have a list of nameplates on the side of the screen with cast bars

similar to boss unit frames

[dusky canopy]

Don’t worry guys next expansions the enemy nameplates will function perfectly and we will be able to see and click on any cast we need too

Can even mousover kick and never miss!

Amazing

[warm plinth]

Have you seen the video clip I posted in here @dusky canopy

[dusky canopy]

Mayhaps

[warm plinth]

It's really bad on alpha right now, like worse than now

Nameplates literally swapping each other across the screen and shit

[dusky canopy]

[solid sun]

Maybe we can integrate Siri into wow so we can say, “Siri, kick insert mob name here”

[warm plinth]

lol

You joke but you actually could do something like that

[lusty grotto]

siri?

what is this a decade ago

[warm plinth]

Like that's actually possible

[solid sun]

It’s possible?

[lusty grotto]

its called apple ai

[warm plinth]

Yeah of course

[lusty grotto]

and gemini, and chat gpt

[warm plinth]

I mean, if you had multiple enemies with the same name, it would just pick one of them

[dusky canopy]

Yur an apple ai

[warm plinth]

But you can definitely do the functionality of that

[lusty grotto]

and i wont accept cortana either, cause its copilot

[solid sun]

Idk what my phone connects to my truck I use Siri to voice activate it

I def don’t say Apple AI

[warm plinth]

People have been doing voice commands on WoW since like...idk TBC? I used a program back in TBC to dual box after watching a video of a guy who farmed Scarlet Cathedral with his mage and voice commanded his priest

[lusty grotto]

its cause apple is 10 steps behind like always

[warm plinth]

So you'd basically just have a macro for each important mob and assign a voice command to that macro. So e.g. you make a macro that's like

/target Devout Priest
/cast Pummel

and then you bind it to like / or something, and then you just set up a voice command to press / when you say kick priest or whatever command you wanted to use

But again, if it was a pull with multiple priests, it would just target the first one (however WoW determines which one is targeted first) and kick it

[solid sun]

That’s pretty sick

I’m glad I know all you wizards

It’s like my whole landscape shifts and my horizons have grown

There’s a whole world out there unexplored

[frosty mango]

Siri isn’t ai

That’s why it sucks

It does all of the compute on your phone

As opposed to something like Gemini or even Samsungs booty offering

Though I will give Apple credit, it does work well for what it is

[solid sun]

Idk what that means bud

I can ask Siri to map me a route to the nearest watering hole and all of a sudden I got a map in my truck computer screen like I’m in Star Trek

Maybe Siri has moved beyond AI and has become a Star Trek computer which isn’t just AI. It’s AI with style and pizzazz

[lusty grotto]

its just funny we had Siri, Alexa, Cortana, Hey Google and instead of implementing AI on top of those, they just made up new names

Apple AI, Alexa + ?, Copilot, Gemini

[mighty valley]

Apple TV+ just became Apple TV last week

[lusty grotto]

yeah saw that

[mighty valley]

Remember HBO Now

and MAX

[lusty grotto]

oh you mean HBO Now?

[solid sun]

I think he means HBO Now

[lusty grotto]

remember Hulu?

[mighty valley]

Someone's gotta rename some stuff periodically to look busy

[lusty grotto]

jk its Disney+ now!

[solid sun]

Wait is Hulu really not Hulu anymore

I’m so disconnected from everything

[lusty grotto]

Hulu is being phased out

and merged into Disney+

[dusky canopy]

Hisney+

[lusty grotto]

Husney+

[warm plinth]

They're changing/have changed the name back to HBO Max

Or at least, they said they were going to as of like...2 months ago when I read the email

[lusty grotto]

yes that was the joke

[sharp merlin]

Timed first 18 key lol

Outside of micro errors being pounced on, there's not a huge difference between 16->18

[frosty mango]

The difference is 2

Can’t you math?

[sharp merlin]

No

[cosmic socket]

for remix, are people prioritizing haste or crit above all? im getting all these pieces with +25% crit, but i've got 12% haste and 12% crit pieces on atm. any thoughts?

[lusty grotto]

doesnt matter

its remix

do whatever you want 🙂

[toxic pewter]

I only play with people that run mastery only

We are masters

[cosmic socket]

i ask because i dont really know soft/hard caps either

im curious as to why haste though, it doesnt reduce our cdr

but then i look at my stats and they give 0 anyway, even tho i have 65% or im just reading wrong

[lusty grotto]

they dont matter in remix

[cosmic socket]

fair enough, but im not sure why some of my stats just say 0

[warm plinth]

Because you don't get rating on remix; you get %

That's why it says 0, then [+65%]. You're getting 0 rating, and then 65% flat increase from gear

Haste is good but if you get enough that your GCD is 0.75, there's no reason to get more really.

[cosmic socket]

ah, i see. makes sense then

what kind of haste would you even need to get the gcd to .75, that seems nuts

[warm plinth]

And crit and mastery are both more valuable for damage past a certain point, though it's hard to say where that point is. I'd imagine if you have like 40% pre-ItF, you have enough haste that it shouldn't be a priority over crit or mastery

[cosmic socket]

pre-ltf?

[warm plinth]

Before the talent Into the Fray

[cosmic socket]

ah

[warm plinth]

40% pre-ItF would put you on the very high end of what people have on live

[cosmic socket]

well, im at 100% haste, but not sure what to test the gcd on because they all have relative cd's

[warm plinth]

In the end, the vers and the traits are the large majority of your damage on remix so stats are kinda whatever

I assume you don't have like deja character stats or any other char screen type addon?

Deja shows the GCD as one of the things it displays. I don't think the default char screen does though.

100% haste would give you a 0.75 sec GCD

[cosmic socket]

more than likely not, didnt even know there would be stat display addons

[warm plinth]

At a certain point, it's really hard to say what's best because the stat values are so inflated from what they are on live

[cosmic socket]

does deja heavily modify the UI?

[warm plinth]

I would say you can afford to lose some haste to get more crit

No, it looks just like what you posted, except it has more sections with more shit

[lusty grotto]

ghash it really doesnt matter

[cosmic socket]

or do you have a recommendation for one of those types of addons

[warm plinth]

And you can enable/disable what is visible

[lusty grotto]

min maxing stats in remix modes is a waste of time

just do whatever

[warm plinth]

I never said it wasn't, but he asked a question so I'm answering it as best I can

[lusty grotto]

way over thinking it

[cosmic socket]

i understand that, but im asking this for the addon for retail because i didnt know it existed

information is valuable

[warm plinth]

It has things like movement speed, GCD, etc.

I don't know if I'd say you need it, but I use it 🤷

I believe it also shows the item level of your gear but could be wrong on that

and that can also be disabled if you have something else doing it

[cosmic socket]

the parry stat as shown is only influenced by crit right and nothing else?

obv talents too but

[warm plinth]

The parry stat on remix is not reliable afaik

As there have been people who had 100% parry and it still didn't make them parry 100% of the time (not even close)

[cosmic socket]

i was just looking at the crit modifier and it says it gives % to parry, but it says 0 aswell but i have 89% parry chance, so i want to know where its coming from for retail purposes

[cosmic socket]

it does suggest diminishing returns

[warm plinth]

There are diminishing returns in play that normally don't really come into play in live

Parry is from base chance to parry + parry from crit

[cosmic socket]

and as a general rule of thumb, haste doesnt make your cd's refresh faster right

[warm plinth]

Not directly, no, though it does impact the cooldown of Shield Block, Shield Slam, and Thunder Clap

[lucid sand]

more shield slam = more rage = more dumping for AM

[lofty warren]

is this legal?

[undone beacon]

legal? no. the coppas on on their way to your house

[frosty mango]

If blizz goes after them they are insane

It’s free press

And to add to that fellowship actually has done a great job imo lol

[toxic pewter]

Hopefully blizz sues the shit out of them

🙏

Into the ground I say

[warm plinth]

why

[tribal vine]

they took blizz's patented 'servers dont work'

[thin minnow]

do you use pacemaker or antenna on prot warrior?

[frigid plume]

preference/whatever you have access to, they are both great

[tulip pumice]

Boys i need some advice, The third boss in HoA with the canisters - do i need to have the party hold kicks to play the spell que'ing or reflect / kick everything to have more spawn faster? or is the timing based off when the last canister was used?

[warm plinth]

I don't think it has anything to do with spellqueueing, as the boss doesn't cast the vessel. It's just a bugged mechanic sometimes. There's supposed to be a new vessel spawn every ~20 seconds starting at approximately the 60 second mark, but sometimes it skips a spawn and you end up waiting 40-45 seconds instead. If it happens at a bad time, you end up waiting on a vessel while the add pulses.

[frosty mango]

you are better off here just having them not kick imo

for every three you can reflect, kick, eat one

the amount of damage you gain here by not losing reflects is worth eating them

imo

[warm plinth]

That's good practice in general but it doesn't have anything to do with vessel spawns

[frosty mango]

im gettin there

my fingers are old

[warm plinth]

Sorry I wasn't trying to correct you; just clarifying for him

[frosty mango]

by doing that, when you get to the end of the fight you can control vessel spawns by either not kicking, or forcing kicks when you need to move her queue

its not perfect and she does skip them sometimes, but i find it much easier when we hit a place where we have no vessels to just hammer her kick to move her along

[warm plinth]

It doesn't matter if you kick every cast or not; it has no impact on the vessel spawn time

You can see that in logs

[frosty mango]

i am pretty sure if you kick her bolts immediately multiple times in a row it can cause you to miss a canister

i haven't tested that theory in a long long time though

maybe I do that tomorrow

because im only like

85% sure

[tulip pumice]

much appreciated gents! Good luck out there!

[somber hollow]

on dimensius, when putting your circle near the boss, is it possible that im moving to close to his model and he somehows attacks me in the back? because i cannot explain what happened here otherwise
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2bQjxKHtGgkNFzcr?fight=27&type=deaths&death=1

perhaps me being a tiny gnome may be relevant

[jagged pier]

u still have the debuff

[somber hollow]

oh im a fucking dumbo
we just started progressing it yesterday after killing nk, didnt read anything above surface level stuff xd
tysm

[jagged pier]

from what i know u the tank that gets the knockback needs to tank for a few seconds after the knockback which should be fine as they should have a defesnive running

[somber hollow]

nah, ive been trying to leave the second pool in the same spot as the first

literally going into the stuff

[dry skiff]

brothers, i must leave you. i have been assigned to 15 Dks. i'll be bothering DK discord from now on. i appreciate everything you did for me

[strong forum]

what the fuck

15 dks?

whose RWF splits are you playing in xd

[jagged pier]

what splits are needed now?

[strong forum]

no clue

[past summit]

in remix, whats the opinion on speed vs avoidance vs leech?

[unreal yarrow]

All speed

All the time

[warm plinth]

That it doesn't matter at all

[dusty jetty]

anyone excited for turboboost!?

that's soon isnt it?

[ocean smelt]

Today or tomorrow depending if US or EU

[lofty warren]

What is the wowhead site for fellowship?

[heavy sparrow]

Lol true

I keep getting recommendations to play fellowship, haven't touched it yet but I hear it's good

[lofty warren]

I downloaded it yesterday and played the pwar/ppal tank through a bunch of dungeons. It feels good the only obvious downside is its tab targetting doesn't always get the mob i want. Even less than in wow

[heavy sparrow]

I tab target, I think there's a box you can check in the options setting so you always can tab to the caster you're facing or nearest to

[undone beacon]

gasp, im famous

Guild leadership talking about skipping soul hunters prog entirely in favor of just going for salhadaar

I dont love the idea personally but people are getting burnt out already, though its not like salhadaar is an easier fight

[main jewel]

soul hunters is a 20 pull boss probably with the turbo boost going live, the fight is not hard at all

it also drops the best item in raid that eveyrone is getting today with dinars

[undone beacon]

A 20 pull boss for better raid teams maybe

[main jewel]

you underestimating the impact turbo boost is going to have on that fight i feel like

theres no one shot mechanics you just do the dance and hit shit

[jagged pier]

u should do oul hunters its more like 50-60 for guilds nowadays (but porobably less as a the massive jump of ilvl we area bout to get)

it will also save ppl dinars

if u kill it

[undone beacon]

It took us like 130 pulls to down Araz, these people have two left feet

[main jewel]

holly

but araz actually have one shot mechanics

soul hunters doesnt

[undone beacon]

Regardless, I'm on team give hunters a chance because it has some wicked strong items

IF the team bothers to go properly juice themselves (which we will see), then it shouldnt be a long fight. You just learn p1 and then... thats it really

But if we cant down hunters i dont know why we'd do any better on nexus

[jagged pier]

u wont

[main jewel]

yeah

im almost killing nexus, should die this week, i feel like its mostly p1

p3 the boss falls in 10 tries or less

but p1 does tkae a lot lmao

[jagged pier]

theres a guild my guild checks in on time to time, they skipped hunters and went stragiht to salad, we killed hunters, and with 1 less raid day a week we have overtaken them on saladbar (we have like 200 pulls less than them)

and we reclear every week, cause boots and trinkets and vault slots

skipping hunters gunna burn your team out

[main jewel]

what is the avg pull count for saladbar?

we at 147

[jagged pier]

i dunno anymore

cause u have guild with 300+

probably around 200 ish

i reckon

tough fight

[main jewel]

honestly i just hate the ghosts

[jagged pier]

i think thats the easiest mechanic

[main jewel]

idk everything else im okaish with but actually seeing the ghosts spawn is hard for me

I get 2 and 3 confused so many times

i have probably died to that stupid thing 20 times during prog

[dusky canopy]

My 2 cents is that’s a horrible idea considering soul hunters is easier and it also unlocks boots for everyone to dinar

Maybe they fear of not having time for CE?

[mellow bridge]

if your guild is still at frac (or even araz then?), you are not gonna have a good time on nexusking

soul hunters is much easier and meanwhile another nk nerf might drop

[dusky canopy]

NK is completely personal responsibility

It will highlight who isn’t very mechanically aware

[undone beacon]

This is their rationale. People are burning out and they're afraid we're gonna hit roster boss if we dont push towards dimensius

But also skipping hunters and doing 300+ pulls of nexus... isnt going to help burnout either

It took 130+ pulls to kill Araz, people in this team arent mechanically aware at all

[dusky canopy]

Reality is you will hit roster boss as soon as you pull NK 40 times in one night and realize how much people struggle with those ghosts

[undone beacon]

I'm not looking forward to it in the slightest

I dont even fucking care about CE anymore I've never gotten it and never will so whatever

I'm just gonna go back to being an AotC andy that doesnt touch mythic at all I stg

[dusky canopy]

You will get it you’re just at the stage of not having achieved it atleast once yet so you have to weed your way through the lower end CE guilds that kill the boss once in a tier

Keep pushing you got it

[undone beacon]

I need to resign from leadership in this guild so I can play the field next xpac lol

Its just frustrating because I love the game but having to herd cats and deal with people's BS in what should be a leisure activity is so unfun

[dusky canopy]

Once you find that guild that progs at a pace you’re satisfied with and whom you also vibe with you’ll be golden

[undone beacon]

All in due time I suppose

One officer is worried it’s gonna take 150 pulls to kill soul hunters for “a probably 1% dps increase across the raid”… I’m never getting through to these people I stg

If it takes 150 pulls to kill hunters how are we ever going to kill nexus

[dusky canopy]

They’re not necessarily fully wrong because dps isn’t going to kill the last two for you

But it’s more about maintaining vibe imo

People killing a boss and getting a sought after item is vibe++

[undone beacon]

Exactly, being 6/8 with the cool items is going to do more to mitigate burnout than being 5/8, leaving loot on the table, and wiping to nexus still

Also our guild leader refuses to schedule an officer meeting and by god I’m not going to do it for him

And our healing officer won’t sit down and plan out healing CDs

raaaaa

[dusky canopy]

Yeah that’s something alright

No organization means gg go next

[undone beacon]

I already raid lead, direct strategy, and set up all the MRT/WA shit

[jagged pier]

just do it for hunters

then u have to go there

[undone beacon]

I already have lmfao

I’m not also going to plan healer CDs, organize the officers, and corral the raid team

[jagged pier]

i mean its easy u just well ive set up hunters if u want to skip

set up saladbar

cause i m not

[undone beacon]

At this point I’m just gonna say we skip hunters you find a new tank

raaaa I just wanna make funny numbers go up

I’m just gonna get a myth brand in vault and then we can skip hunters EASY

[hardy snow]

skipping hunters is dumb

if you can't kill easier boss, why going to harder one?

[unreal yarrow]

The game should be fun. Don't let people force roles on you, especially if you can't make related decisions. Are these irl friends?

[undone beacon]

Nah, I joined them at the start of TWW when my old guild collapsed

I told them at the start of this season if we don’t get CE I’m going elsewhere

[jagged pier]

u must be like rank 3k WR tho right?

like thats not likely to get CE

last tier was an outlier really

[undone beacon]

Eh probably I haven’t checked

We just killed Araz and Frac last week

[hardy snow]

my guild refuses to be average

[jagged pier]

brah

[undone beacon]

This does not inspire confidence in me lmao

[jagged pier]

3 day guilds are cursed man

just pull again and again

[hardy snow]

dont bother my prog, we had few terrible days on Nexus king, literally 0 progress made on these days, but yesterday was pretty good, we started reaching P3 and proging it nicely

I bet your experience will be much different, in a positive way

[jagged pier]

how many pull sfor araz jawor?

[lament osprey]

We’ve had two to three subs every night so far on salad bar

P3, 37%

[hardy snow]

92, killed on Sep10

[jagged pier]

[hardy snow]

but fortunately rekills are going pretty well

[jagged pier]

@undone beacon looks like u ahve alot of pulls ahed of u on saladbar

based on jawor

[hardy snow]

way better than in previous seasons, when they werent rekills, but reprog

[jagged pier]

yer cause all the bosses are over geared

up too the last 2

then the final phase of dimi is overpowered by gear too

[hardy snow]

this entire tier was designed to selfnerf by gear/buff power

[undone beacon]

It took 130+ pulls for us to kill Araz on a two night a week schedule

[main jewel]

and the 28 wipe we had everyone alive till someone missed ball )=

[mellow bridge]

get used to it

gonna be a few more tries like that :^)

[orchid narwhal]

after raiding for a whole season thats the conclusion ive reached too

2 day guilds dont have enough time

3 days think they have too much time to waste

i wonder w hat happens if i swap to4 day raiding

[mellow bridge]

just play in a 1 day guild np

[orchid narwhal]

😭

[frosty mango]

We’re at 100 pulls on nexus and I expect it to die tonight

Then we can kill dim and I can be done with this tier lol

[frosty mango]

You burn out

Most 4 day guilds are ass

IMO 2 day with 3 day prog for first 3-4 weeks is the sweet spot

You get w nice little prog boost while everyone is engaged then you coast out the rest of the tier

[dusk tulip]

Bit of a random question with the tome from priory is it better to send it on CD or wait for the buff every time as it seems to take longer than the trinket CD to rotate back to shield buff

[orchid narwhal]

I wanna swap to 4 days

Not a single boss is hard enough because blizzard just nerfs stuff for fun

Like Im purely racing blizzard to hit the boss while its still a challenge

[orchid narwhal]

You only press the button when it swaps to its defense mode, that way you have full crit uptime

In m+ it wont always be possible, but you follow the same rule, just has to sit on defense mode a bit longer

[undone beacon]

Roid let me in your guild lmfao

I can survival hunter pretty good i promise

ill keep the bench SO warm

[frosty mango]

Shiet im tryin to not raid

Can you play mistweaver

[frosty mango]

Isn’t this a relative thing tho

[undone beacon]

I dont really heal lmao

Healing stresses me

[orchid narwhal]

Well I am talking about myself

[frosty mango]

Raiding more days doesn’t make the boss harder though, makes it easier

If you want a challenge join a hof 2 day guild

[nocturne spindle]

someone recruit me to a good 2 day guild

[orchid narwhal]

Theres like 3 of those in the US

[nocturne spindle]

ty

[orchid narwhal]

Would if I could though

[frosty mango]

Better get to work then

[frosty mango]

Yeah def don’t play mw then lol

[orchid narwhal]

Missed HoF this season by a week, so now I gotta do HoF next tier

[undone beacon]

Yeah no MW for me but

Again, my ass will keep the bench so warm

[frosty mango]

I really enjoyed mw

This tier

Definitely can be frustrating but it was diff from warrior or priest

[undone beacon]

I usually did myth raid as a hunter so, tanking the last two tiers was a nice change

Prot last tier, bear this tier

[strong forum]

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[dusky canopy]

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[clear crest]

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[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/i-be-profen-ibuprofen-gif-6560266553822228043

[nocturne spindle]

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[undone beacon]

tiny ass gif

[nocturne spindle]

well i mean

it is a movie

[undone beacon]

You’re a movie

Gottem

[nocturne spindle]

thank you thats very kind

[undone beacon]

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[gritty relic]

Sorry if I have asked already but ive truly forgotten if so.

If I am a m+ enjoyed do I dinar a antenna or the priory trinket?

[toxic gyro]

Pacemaker

[noble mountain]

is it worth grabbing a mythic pacemaker if we already have a mythic antenna?

[toxic gyro]

Depends on your antenna uptime. For me 80% uptime on it simmed the same as pacemaker.

[noble mountain]

ok i usually miss less than 20 due to the weakaura, thanks

[toxic gyro]

You can also sim and see what’s the best upgrade for you.

[undone beacon]

Y'all

Should i start a new minecraft world

[mighty valley]

should you? no

must you? yes

[sweet summit]

nah log on fellowship

[undone beacon]

idk i keep seeing stuff about fellowship but havent touched it

I just need a chill background game while I work

little modded minecraft experience

[remote frost]

Yo guys 730 belt with good stats or 727 belt with embellishment for m+?

[coarse bay]

Sim it, if you can move embellishment to another slot it might be worth it

[undone beacon]

[lusty grotto]

are we ready for the dinar questions

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815

[nocturne spindle]

ill make sure to ping you for every one we get

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-annoyed-stare-side-eye-gif-16732086699915766519

[coarse bay]

What should i dinar

Whats bis

[lusty grotto]

meanwhile me

@waxen frigate wya

[lofty warren]

Didnt know fellowship added raids

[fair osprey]

Replacing heroic ceaseless ire using cartel chip - pacemaker or antenna. Other trinket is myth devotion. Keen to hear thoughts

[chilly brook]

ayyyyyyyy let's goooooooo

BF6 owns

[frosty mango]

F in the chat for servers

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

Lemix too strong

[undone beacon]

Broke wow forever

[ripe ravine]

do boots from DHs available for dinars?

[lusty grotto]

nothing is available for dinars

cause servers arent up for us in NA land

[paper stump]

is Fellowship worth buying the full pack set? your review so far, please?

[lusty grotto]

what the fuck is fellowship

jk i know what it is, but that aint it

and i dont know, i dont have it

[cerulean tusk]

@lusty grotto

[paper stump]

I will be honest, I got tired playing 4 classes this season and I wanna take a break playing something else meanwhile.

[lusty grotto]

it dont

[spark kestrel]

my lemix horde on illidan can login just fine but my malganis regular warrior can’t login

odd

[thin minnow]

someone said it earlier here, hero track interloper boots are not worth dinar-ing, right?

[lusty grotto]

nope

whoever that was, he was right

the only hero track item you want to dinar is brand and brand only

thats about it

[thin minnow]

okay. cool. so it'd be either antenna, tome or pacemaker for me then

[astral pendant]

Rip for logging in right now, anyone having any luck or are all server auth just shite right now?

[lofty warren]

No I dont think they are

[lofty warren]

I bought fellowships yesterday its like m+ without the bs

For $20 its work imo