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lusty grotto
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servers are up

bleak scaffold
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Is this in Legion Remix ? i didn't saw this one.

dry skiff
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please tell me we can craft this week, i am not dropping the damn spark

jagged pier
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next week

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its cata this week

dry skiff
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omg i bought the gilded

main thistle
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so what is up with this "turbo-boost" event? I literally get 0 benefits when the caps are still in place. You can upgrade 1 item per week... why did they even name it turbo boost?

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who is it boosting?

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new players?

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thought i can push resil 15's with high ilevel but no

oak ivy
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Is there an ICD on parrying or is my remix war nigh unmeleeable

frank surge
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what are you guys upgrading this week? is a shield upgrade 6-7 and 7-8 better than other items when it costs more, or should you just focus on doing 15 crest upgrades?

coarse bay
lusty grotto
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parry has DR

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thats it

coarse bay
plush tendon
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less value to craft if you have alts

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I got 10 cost upgrades on my warrior slots

frank surge
coarse bay
plush tendon
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also, for your mythic crafts you can spend 15 runed crests to get +3 I levels

lusty grotto
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all upgrades are 15 until you get the gilded achievement

plush tendon
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so really that last +4 upgrade on crafts is 30 crests

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which just aint worth

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unless you dont have anything else to spend it on

frank surge
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im sitting on 2 sparks and 60 crets (from last week) what can i make w them now? 627 crafts for 60 crests or how does it work?

plush tendon
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the initial craft is 60 crest to 720

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another 30 crests to bring it to 727

frank surge
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ah so still the same

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i see, ty

bleak scaffold
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Well 7ilvl on shield should be worth for the added block value no ?

plush tendon
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shield is the most important piece

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I had a mythic shield, so my approach to turbo is different

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but sending 30 crests on shield aint bad

bleak scaffold
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I must have misunderstood your previous statement then sorry.

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Upgrade shield as always wether it's craft or myth šŸ˜‰

sonic crag
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My shield is crafted. My thoughts were being it to 727 first, then I have 60 more crest this week for other Myth track pieces

plush tendon
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yea, I dont know what other gear or alts you have to game the system

lusty grotto
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what augusto is doing doesnt apply to most of you

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if not all of you

plush tendon
dusky canopy
plush tendon
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yea, I was able to upgrade my DK wep to 730, get gilded achievement, upgrade my warrior's myth 2h to 730 for 20 crests as arms

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then freely upgrade my wep and shield to 730 for 0 crests

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huge stonks

limpid ruin
warm plinth
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smh, so much for server maintenance

bleak scaffold
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Yes i saw that previously ^^ well played

warm plinth
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Was fine before restart, now hella world lag and now I can't get in after relogging

plush tendon
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I did that same tactic with my paladin and DK

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so I was also able to upgrade chest, helm, legs to 730 for a total of 60 crests

solid sun
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Server maintenance???

plush tendon
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and then sent my remaining 10 brand to 714

solid sun
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More like server disrepair

warm plinth
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Ikr

solid sun
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hahaaaaaaaaaa i cooked

plush tendon
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so 10 total upgrades on my war

warm plinth
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You having issues too?

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You're doing great sweetie lol

solid sun
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I've been right here for like 5 solid minutes

warm plinth
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GET GAPPED NERD

lusty grotto
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huh im inside

warm plinth
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I was in, but decided to reopen the game because the lag was unbearable

lusty grotto
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oh

solid sun
warm plinth
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fuck

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Rhino beating me

bleak scaffold
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Carefull Rhino is FAST !

solid sun
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The loading bar races of 2025

warm plinth
pallid quiver
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the addiction is real

solid sun
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I'M IN

warm plinth
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NOOOOOO

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I hope it's still laggy!

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jk

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I hope it's not

pallid quiver
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I'm not currently playing, so I hope it just shocks everyone playing because that'd be a funny news story

undone beacon
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normal servers working great!

autumn pawn
karmic saffron
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Hey guys, what do you think? Should I rather take myth t-set chest or weapon (crit, haste). My current chest is just hero and I have the crafted 720 weapon

plush tendon
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id suggest running mythic raid first

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a wep and a chest drop off first boss

karmic saffron
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Forgot to mention - I don't raid at all

plush tendon
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and since wep and chest drop off first boss (and you have a chance each week to get) then just sim

karmic saffron
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Ah, first boss? Interesting...

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Could pug that indeed

plush tendon
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I mean, Plexus Sent is on farm

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for pugs

karmic saffron
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Mhm, true

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And considering neither drops?

plush tendon
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doing first 2 mythic is legit a 30 minute adventure

plush tendon
karmic saffron
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already ran a sim. chest sims vastly better. just wanted to get a second opinion, thanks^^

lusty grotto
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apparently i bugged myself

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@warm plinth

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i told eternus to show me back or some shit and i cant get off or mount from the bazaar

solid sun
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lol jump off and then heroic leap before you land?

lusty grotto
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well you see

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i cant even hearth

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oh whoops its on cd

unreal yarrow
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Unstuck work in retail/remix?

lusty grotto
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i guess i gotta relog

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none of my shit is working

solid sun
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lol

lusty grotto
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ok alt+f4 since i apparently cant relog

sinful copper
lusty grotto
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time for lunch

plush tendon
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when comparing them to myth track items

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still, its nice that we have the option to upgrade crafted pieces by 3 with runed crests

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and by the week of the 21st when we uncapped then nobody will care

livid aurora
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I read somewhere that there is a shield craft bug now. Is it safe to recraft to 727?

sinful copper
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Not sure. Can u tell if it's bugged? Do the stats show lower on it? Or it's hidden?

unreal yarrow
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Updates* channel says it is fixed

livid aurora
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Nice

peak lily
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PSA, dont do hardmode, servers are dead in eu. Had 3 people dc in final bossroom during a trashpack. Me as tank+hunter killed it, nobody died, but guess it counted the dc people as dead, so me and hunter lost the buff.

pallid yarrow
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my first trinket is myth seaforium. for 2nd i have choice of sacbrood or tome. Which one do you suggest? Both are hero. i only tank m+.

coarse bay
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Both are farmable in hero, sockets arent bad options. Up to you šŸ™‚

warm plinth
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I mean, it is. It's just not very good on overall.

plush tendon
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me and all my friends hate tome

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reading is for nerds

coarse bay
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I dont flip pages

plush tendon
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but Im a Brand enjoyer

pallid yarrow
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thanks, been using sac so i'll keep it. wasn't for vault

warm plinth
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Yeah game died again @lusty grotto

coarse bay
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Its good in ST, so it would benefit u on boss fights

plush tendon
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heck, hero brand prob the play anyways

warm plinth
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Just as my 20 min dungeon queue popped too

plush tendon
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which can be bought with dinars if you did normal soulhunters in 13 days

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which, even if you just M+, shouldnt be a huge ask tbh

pallid yarrow
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šŸ‘

solid sun
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Tome isn’t just good on bosses though

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Its also good on prio targets

plush tendon
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Prio damage is for the mage and havoc

coarse bay
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Just doesnt get good uptime in most keys

coarse bay
warm plinth
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Good uptime on what

lusty grotto
warm plinth
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I have like 80% uptime on the crit/damage proc in keys

coarse bay
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Does 80% on that beat other trinkets?

warm plinth
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And I'm not the greatest at listening to my WA so I'm sure others can get higher

limpid ruin
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Doesn’t that put it below most trinkets in st?

coarse bay
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Ik it sims assuming 100%

limpid ruin
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Well not most but the good ones

lusty grotto
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no tome is #1 in ST

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by far and wide

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the only one that comes close is brand

coarse bay
plush tendon
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cause its smelly

lusty grotto
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this is how good it is

plush tendon
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we ue brand

warm plinth
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I would like to log in to the videogame plz

plush tendon
coarse bay
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Is that liquids site? That isnt very good to go off of

lusty grotto
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no...

coarse bay
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Like i said, it sims based on 100% which is unrealistic

lusty grotto
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do you think i would link liquid's site?

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what

solid sun
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Imagine telling Nimchip what information to use

lusty grotto
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LOL

limpid ruin
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Ya it goes below the next 5 at 80%

lusty grotto
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yea idk what this guy is going for here

warm plinth
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The 80% uptime I stated was overall in keys, not on a single target fight

plush tendon
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I wonder if we got a log of a M+ run with tome handy

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that be neat

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Because I for sure dont

lusty grotto
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im not gonna get into another tome vs anything conversation again

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use whatever the fuck you want

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but dont come in here and say tome isnt good

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cause thats just plain misinformation

solid sun
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That’s kinda why I even said anything.

undone beacon
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Tome? In this house we use Codex

tribal rover
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What do you guys think about best trinkets. I have myth tomb, ceaseless ire and antenna. Was thinking antenna and ceaseless for keys and using tomb and ceaseless in raid

lusty grotto
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whatever wowhead guide has

tribal rover
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Well they all S trinkets on wowhead

lusty grotto
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then whatever sims best

tribal rover
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Situational and playstyle I guess

lusty grotto
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no

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whatever sims best

tribal rover
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Ceaseless is good if you are in constant combat

jagged grove
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Hey! Currently running mythic pacemaker and heroic soleahs, just got a heroic ire, should i swap out the soleahs for ire?

lusty grotto
tribal rover
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Ire does crazy dmg if you play that style right

solid sun
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You can stay in combat most of the time

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Plus it has a three second grace period

tribal rover
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For mythics I’m pulling next pack right as the last pack is going to be down

lusty grotto
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there is no situation in which you dont stay in combat

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period

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not this season

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not with good routing

lusty grotto
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the only situation where brand isnt good is if you kill myth raid encounters in sub 5 mins

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that is it

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you swap whatever raidbots tells you to swap

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sim 5 mins

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1 target 5 mins

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5 targets 5 mins

jagged grove
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Yeah, did so and looks like ire is just superior

lusty grotto
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only sim that requires 5 mins besides 1.5 mins is a sim with brand

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ok then

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you have your answer

jagged grove
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Yep

lusty grotto
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which is why i forwarded that message

jagged grove
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im kinda new to wow in general so i forget simming is a thing

solid sun
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Remix is dumb. Everyone does more damage than me

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It couldn’t be me that’s the issue

tribal rover
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You play fury warrior Nim?

dusky canopy
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Have you tried being the one who does more?

lusty grotto
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i play all the specs

solid sun
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Yes

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It didn’t work

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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but prot is my main spec

solid sun
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That’s how I know it isn’t my fault

dusty echo
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what does spell deflectable mean?

lusty grotto
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it means you dont take damage

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but it doesnt do damage back to the caster

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thats what a "deflect" mean

gritty relic
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Is there a cheat sheet for what is spell reflectable this season?

lusty grotto
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there always is

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and is always pinned

gritty relic
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Sorry my brain is small and smooth

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I appreciate you guys

sinful copper
round pendant
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I love bricking a 15 due to clowns

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and then running the 14 and getting the god team

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that would have smashed the 15 np

hardy snow
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these character lags are annoying af danderson

austere flare
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any advice on what to get first with cartel chips?

lusty grotto
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they arent in so

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why would you ask

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either way im sure Nome and Mwahi will add something up in the guides

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on the 21st

plush tendon
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a bit behind the curve of the key pushers right now.... so its gonna be rough

limpid ruin
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That’s what makes it fun! It’s gamba blizard

plush tendon
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Yeraji ready for a 18 Dawn yet

limpid ruin
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No JohnDH isn’t resil 17 and he only goes in order. I have no idea who Yerajii is though

plush tendon
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we gotta get you title

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so you can show off to Slinny

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and call him trash

main thistle
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can you change the zone you are campaigning in?

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in legion remix

lusty grotto
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why would you

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eventually youll do all of them for the achieves

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since they lock out some cosmetics

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but if you want to you can simply fly to the next zone

sinful copper
azure crag
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aw, man. I knew it wouldn't last

lusty grotto
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in other news

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water is wet

azure crag
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On the bright side
I can stop leveling this druid

lusty grotto
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im getting my ass kicked at lvl 70 in heroic

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world tier

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time to prot it up

solid sun
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I think I’m gonna swap from fire to arcane

warm plinth
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I was getting my shit pushed in at 70 in dungeons XD

solid sun
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Pyro does no damage

warm plinth
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Gear was way behind I guess

lusty grotto
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but pyro really shouldnt be your top damage its ignite

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pyro feeds ignite

heavy hazel
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is the tome of lightsdevotion still good? I see it listed as good but ive also heard the opposite. Better to go antenna and ire on hc instead? Help me to understand pls šŸ˜„

round pendant
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Anyone saying the opposite is wrong

plush tendon
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Tome and Brand is prob the best combo for pure ST raid

jagged pier
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in 5 min long fights

plush tendon
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for M+, Brand + Pacemaker/Atenna is prob best

heavy hazel
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ah ok, i manily play m+

sinful copper
plush tendon
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Bear is kind of fun; been playing my bear as a 5th alt

nocturne spindle
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reminder to put soleahs up there with pacemaker

plush tendon
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eh, Soleahs is prob a tier below

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usable, but not a contender for best

nocturne spindle
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if you sim it over a long period of time its the same amount of crit as pacemaker

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not accounting for whoever gets your stat

lusty grotto
nocturne spindle
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i did a ton of long duration sims its basically equal

lusty grotto
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remix hero talents

hardy snow
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finally dropped erga

lusty grotto
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gz jawor!

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its around our 7th consecutive week of heroic reclears without one

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and didnt drop for us on myth last week

hardy snow
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on hc first in first or second week we got three dropped XD

lusty grotto
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yeah we got a bunch for us on the first two weeks

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but they all went to our tanks and tank alts

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nothing after

hardy snow
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but leather boots from hunters on mythic we will gonna soon give out for tmogs

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we get leather every week, sometimes double

lusty grotto
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we barely get plate boots

hardy snow
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same

lusty grotto
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seems consistent with your group lol

hardy snow
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im still running some dungeon hero track drop keks

nocturne spindle
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we get plate boots from somewhere on the early bosses everyweek

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justnot soul hunters ones

lusty grotto
dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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feels fucking badman

tribal wharf
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yogi goin in the alien ufo mothership

dusky canopy
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What in the Atari is that

tribal wharf
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or corrupted pyramid

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its exhumed powerslave and its awesome

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its yugioh themed duke nukem

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egyptian beings and shit

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i wont play atari but 8 bit and up games in general, sure, why not

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id say "dont call it doom or i'll slap you again." but most of you arent cultured enough in boomer shooter

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other nerds have japanese anime, i have boom shoots

noble wren
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Hi which spells i can block with this is there a list somewhere?

lusty grotto
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unfortunately

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we cant read that language

jagged pier
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0

lusty grotto
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oh jakey can probably

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w8 no

jagged pier
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its intervene

lusty grotto
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ah

noble wren
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that spell sry

lusty grotto
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the only use for intervene is in fracti

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other than that there's none

noble wren
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M+ only sry

jagged pier
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literally 0

lusty grotto
shut summit
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just the typical stuff, like shoot from archers, can intervene the impale bleed on knights in priory, not much else ive found

serene steppe
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Is there a way to see dmg done to first raid boss during absorb phases?

lusty grotto
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you can find the timings and just select it with a mouse drag

serene steppe
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Wasnt there some setting to only show dmg done to absorbs?

lusty grotto
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not by default but maybe with a custom query

serene steppe
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Okay thanks!

jagged pier
lament osprey
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Go ahead and pump that baby up. Then enjoy

dusky canopy
round pendant
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ew

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this pug +15 eco

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guy invited an aug

shrewd grove
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Yo, Aug fucking pumps when the player is good

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But good players don't play Aug so

tribal wharf
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i did it i conquered the aliens or whatever they were

thin minnow
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does anyone know if crafting bug is fixed?

lusty grotto
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yes its fixed

round pendant
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god

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aug + fury + ret

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not a good comp

dusky canopy
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That sounds šŸ”„

round pendant
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the sentinels just did not die

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tbf paladin's #1 damage on them was divine storm

orchid mural
# noble wren that spell sry

other than the ones sense mentioned, i like pretending it helps for first boss priory when one of your dps get's targetted by the pounce/maul the boss does, or warpstrike on second boss in eco, or using intervene to get to players about to be put into the cage first boss streets.

tribal wharf
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i think in LFD there should be megadungeon only LFD section

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and its like, if you get started with a group, and you complete it as the group without someone leaves you can reque next part of the mega

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and you can do it from all standard LFD levels, for some sort of almost forever

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and its like you get more bonus if you complete both as orginal grouped pug

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cuz i see SL remix, legion remix

round pendant
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3 keys bricked to the shit servers

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all for a shitty slop gamemode

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Also they should add a pause feature to keys

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literally no reason not to

mighty valley
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there's never "literally no reason not to" do anything in game development lmao

solid sun
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What’s the slop game mode

tribal wharf
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i still to this very day

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have zero fucking clue, like at all

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what a remix event is

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NO CLUE i have no idea

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i think i attempted to start it on the first one for pandaria, and i did some quests and i didnt understand, so i gave up and never touched any of them since

nocturne spindle
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oh

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whats the fractillus intervene tech

solid sun
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If you intercept a wall you can take it back for a touchdown

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I thought that was a decent nfl joke :(

frosty mango
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intervene has one purpose

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saving ret paladins who like to divine storm .1 second into a pack

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as we've already established my stance on ret paladins I think all can safely assume I don't run it

shrewd grove
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Any ret pally that doesn't pre-BoP going into big CDs at the start of a pack is silly

lament osprey
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?

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Aren’t you all prot warriors?

solid sun
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Not all the time

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Sometimes we do other stuff

shrewd grove
solid sun
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Are you telling us you’ll be whatever we want you to be?

Except holy priest of course

hardy snow
hardy snow
lofty warren
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Vdh ded

tribal wharf
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do vdh channel go reee rn

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im not in that one, i would play dh except, well ya

orchid narwhal
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Somehow, in my wildest imagination, I have ended up tanking mythic dimensius

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ANy tips

polar atlas
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Dum question but does raidbots correctly sim Cursed Stone idol?

lusty grotto
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but that sim isnt aoe

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its single target

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try 5 target patchwerk 1.5 mins

polar atlas
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kk thanks!

polar atlas
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It's a mega upgrade!

jagged gust
polar atlas
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why?

warm plinth
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You can't block/dodge/parry during casts with few exceptions. That trinket is not an exception.

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So you're a bit vulnerable for the second you're channeling it

left shard
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I have crafted shield 723 ilvl and just got mythic ward of the weaving beast. Should I throw gilded crests into that or spend them elsewhere?

undone beacon
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And get a better mog geez

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I’m a hater

main thistle
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Can i somehow earn the artifact weapon appearances from paladin with my warrior in remix?

cerulean tusk
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Doubt that

main thistle
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Is there any skips further in campaign if i loremaster my war?

lusty grotto
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does fractillus seem bugged this week?

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apparently the wall debuff is lasting double the time

warm plinth
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Nim I did keys on remix D:

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Of course Blizz gave us Teeming/Explosive the first week šŸ™‚

lusty grotto
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nice

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maybe ill do some in the weekend i gotta do keys in live after work tomorrow

warm plinth
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I haven't done an explosive key yet but someone told me that they're the chonky explosives, not the 1-hit kill ones

lusty grotto
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so DF explosives

warm plinth
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yeah, makes sense...in legion right?

lusty grotto
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i mean better that than the OG

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you dont want people with massive power just getting 1 shot haha

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actually idk about the weekend, since bf6 is out on friday keks

warm plinth
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I don't even see a difference in FPS games these days

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Unless it's a half serious thing like Fortnite or Apex

frosty mango
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So maybe and we didn’t notice?

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We were all at or over 6m and usually it’s 4.5-5

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I just chalked it up to overlapping circles

warm plinth
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gottem

jagged pier
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But my guild yesterday didnt run into any bugs on frac

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We did on plexis, decided to do the group soak as a wall came???

ionic fern
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Everything seems bugged this week.

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Random disconnects,stuck on loading screen..

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Everytime we got to P2 on Nexus king the whole raid started lagging/freezing.

jagged pier
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Glad we recleared then kekW

tame jasper
ionic fern
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Yah,and at some point 4 people from TM disconnected as the server went down.

remote dawn
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how much isthe diff. between thane and coloss? dmg output and dmg income?

warm plinth
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Income, negligible. Damage, Thane is far ahead assuming you have 4pc

remote dawn
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kk merci

hollow lily
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Hey guys, Im having sometimes agro problems in raid, my offtank is a Blood dk and even tho he does It pretty good I just use to get the agro during The combat while doing my dps rotation. Is It normal?

ionic fern
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If the DPS difference between the tanks is big enough,yes.

viscid lantern
jagged pier
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I think u read what he wrote the wrong way around

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He unfortunatly needs to watch for high threat and wait afew seconds hinself or tell the dk to play better

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At leaat hes not tanking with a prot pala

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They are just dudu for damage, i have to constantly not press buttons sadge

viscid lantern
jagged pier
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I mean number 1 no need to be that rude or aggressive and number 2 your calling him the idiot and to fuck off for some seconds

blazing shuttle
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Why the fuck would you be rude for no reason? Relax.

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And what Jakey said. How bad is the damage difference, anyway?

mint knot
bleak scaffold
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or when you got like a 10 SS in a row O_O

bleak scaffold
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You need to be carefull with your menace to be sure not to get aggro by DPS, you could get it at the worst time :x and then you can check with your cotank why you get aggro from DPS, if something can be improved or not. If you are both doing 100% then there is nothing you can do except reducing your DPS when not actively tanking :/

hollow patio
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Does anyone else have issues with the frontal on loomi? The Hitbox seems so weird. I sometimes get hit without even being close

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Here for example. How am I supposed to be in the frontal? It's not even close

jagged pier
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Your under the boss

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Probably weird hit box cause your in it and it spawns under the boss you are in the frontal

hollow patio
#

Idk there are 2 people right in front of me and they don't get hit

undone beacon
#

No new messages in like 3+ hours, prot warr disc dead prot warr dead

neon elk
#

Or people playing so hard they dont have time to type

undone beacon
#

People here dont play the game

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they just talk about it

neon elk
#

Pssst

dusky canopy
ionic fern
#

We all in remix.

undone beacon
#

Servers are down no remix for you

dusky canopy
#

I wish I was in remix I gotta work and shit

ionic fern
#

We all in remix waiting queue.

dusky canopy
#

😭

undone beacon
#

Been hitting that big Spriest

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Psychic Link go brrrr

dusky canopy
#

Feral or arms

undone beacon
#

Shadow actually, there is no arms priest. Not anymore

dusky canopy
#

Do I realllyy care about collecting the Druid form when I likely will never play one šŸ˜†

dusky canopy
solid sun
#

I’m also working

undone beacon
#

I'm only level like 38 but i've been having fun when im able to get on

solid sun
#

After work I’m doing the classic dad move of doing yard work while also playing with my kid outside

undone beacon
#

I'm gonna end up leveling a char of each armor type for the fuckin uhhh chosen achieve prob but

solid sun
#

Then dinner. Then remix and critical role

undone beacon
#

Work from home. Play wow and work. Workday ends. Take nap. Get dinner. Play some remix. Watch some simpsons. Shower. Bed

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The good life

dusky canopy
#

Simpsons!

solid sun
#

We couldn’t raid Tuesday because too many callouts

solid sun
#

So I still don’t have aotc and instead of being super bummed about it I’m just annoyed

#

This new Scarizard episode of the poddy c is pretty good

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He’s such a huge yapper

dry skiff
#

it's been a while that i havent been able to reflect proximity strike in Street. i know you might say that i reflect the melee attack from " hard light baton " but that's not it. i no longer hear the reflect sound

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did they change proximity strike ?

warm plinth
#

You could never reflect proxy strike

frosty mango
solid sun
#

Then it really has been a while that they haven’t been able to do it :)

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A really long while

warm plinth
#

@solid sun you 80 yet

solid sun
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lol not even 40 yet

frosty mango
#

I don’t think it even used to be spell blockable did it?

warm plinth
#

this guy

solid sun
#

I couldn’t play yesterday

warm plinth
#

uh...not sure actually

frosty mango
#

All I know is I shield wall those and reflect immediately after because proxy strike is scary scary

warm plinth
#

Did we ever have streets when we had spell block? It's too early to remember.

frosty mango
#

It’s also bugged in some cases I’m pretty sure

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I’m not sure the exact conditions but sometimes if you get hit with two in the same gcd one of them just isn’t mitigated at all, you just eat one of them completely natty - aka you die

solid sun
#

Just don’t be so close

frosty mango
#

It’s happened to me twice this season

paper stump
#

Hey, could someone remind me what's the short phrase to show the proper sim for every situation, please? Ty.

solid sun
#

1 target, 1.5 min
1 target, 5 min for brand
5 targets, 1.5 min
5 targets, 5 min for brand

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You mean something like that?

dry skiff
frosty mango
#

I’ve been deleted or clenched my booty too many times

dry skiff
#

doesnt change anything i guess we still have to press it. but i thought the other add with baton buff sometimes proced my reflect and proximity went throu

frosty mango
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No it just hits very hard

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On a 17 I think it hit me for 26 mil?

shut summit
warm plinth
#

Ah yes, the ole spell block before there was spell block keks

#

Love Blizzard's consistency

frosty mango
#

Very rude of them

#

Not nice at all

warm plinth
#

One of the fights in uh...eternal palace I think

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Wait which was the water raid, idr

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Idk, Mistress Sass'znine or whatever her name was

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the eels meleed shadow damage, but you could block them

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think that was tomb

solid sun
#

Whose Line is it Anyways, where the rules don’t matter and the points are made up

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But for blocking attacks

undone beacon
#

Question for my lemixers, if I already have the mythic set from one of the ensembles, but not the LFR/Norm/Heroic, does buying the mythic ensemble unlock the other three or will it not let me even learn it cuz its "Already Known"?

jagged pier
#

if its anything like mop theres a ensemble for each difficulty

undone beacon
#

They changed that

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Its one ensemble thats supposed to unlock all of them, like the Midnight system

jagged pier
#

buy and see

undone beacon
#

If I wanted to be the guinea pig I wouldn't have asked smh my head

#

I need to learn from the suffering of OTHERS

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Can confirm that it will give you all difficulties even if it says "Already Known"

#

Tooltip only reflects mythic but using the item is all four

warm plinth
#

Thanks for yoru sacrifice Pash

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your

solid sun
#

True American patriot

dusky canopy
sharp merlin
#

I just.. can’t do AK

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I’m literally just watching people in slow mo die

#

I can’t, people say I pull too slow, and then I pull quick and they die

I don’t know what it is about AK and FG this season

plush tendon
#

Ara Kara its usually casts or too many posions that kill people

#

Flood is just generally hard

sharp merlin
#

14+ attempts on 15

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Can’t even get to last boss

plush tendon
#

oh

sharp merlin
#

I do, and everyone dies to first puddles šŸ˜‚

plush tendon
#

15s are a shit show right now

#

ngl

solid sun
#

Are you pugging

limpid ruin
#

Ya I did a 15 dawn last night and the prot pali was trolling

sharp merlin
#

Sadly I am, my pre-made is on 17s already

plush tendon
#

I just wanted my atenna orb

sharp merlin
#

I just wanted to catch up

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And get this one to at least resi 15

#

Already done 16s

plush tendon
#

but at least I had more then 48% SoTR uptime

solid sun
#

They don’t help you?

sharp merlin
limpid ruin
sharp merlin
#

But just thought I’d go into pugland for the night

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Absolute cinema

plush tendon
#

18s are pretty doable

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19s are the current 'jump'

#

but pug land for 14-15-16 is rouuuuugh

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the good players are just doing 12s to cap crests for upgrade

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or are past that point

solid sun
#

I can’t wait to get my homies together this weekend and freely time 17s with no issues

plush tendon
#

I have pugged a handful of keys this season.... the people in that key range are something else man

sharp merlin
#

They’re super toxic

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And just hate people and hate the game

#

Even if you time it, they’re bitter

plush tendon
#

had this lock in a 14 Dawn last night

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we timed the key fine, but he talked so much shit

#

and was doing 2 mill less dps then the other dps

sharp merlin
#

Hahaha

plush tendon
#

like, bro

#

you have 0 reason to be talking right now

#

we'll send you the bill for the carry later

sharp merlin
#

I had a DH

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Not know what imprison was

#

Spend 5 min figuring out how to talent it

#

Didn’t even fucking do it

#

And then whispered me going, why did we waste so much time then?

#

Everyone wants me to kick horror but also kick everything else

#

And when I do save my kick for horror

#

Everyone goes ā€œdo you know what an interrupt is?ā€

#

I had a frost DK crying about pulling too slow, so I pull the entire side after 2nd boss, and then complains that it’s too much

solid sun
#

The whole side sounds crazy to me

sharp merlin
#

He shouldn’t have complained then

plush tendon
#

as a DK lover, the fact that FDK is FoTM annoys me so much

#

so many dog shit DKs out there right now

#

doing meh damage

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and not gripping

#

also, if you die on FDK, you should feel bad

sharp merlin
#

And he kept pinging the next pack

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When we’re mid pack

#

It’s like fuck off stop

#

During the first pull he already dismounted and started attacking the mobs whilst I was still gathering too.. smh

solid sun
#

I don’t do the first pull everyone expects in a pug

#

I only do it in my premade

#

Isn’t worth imo

sharp merlin
#

But rhino I’m a bad tank

#

That’s what they all say

solid sun
#

So am I

sharp merlin
#

Boomie pulled the pack to the right after the first boss bridge.. and then goes ā€œwhy did you pull that warrior?ā€

frosty mango
#

I asked a 3400 dh to take mortal dance in halls and he said ā€œthat’s a shit talent why would I take thatā€

#

I just left

sharp merlin
#

And then they kicked me

solid sun
#

Hey I actually do pull the pack to the right of the bridge lol

sharp merlin
#

Including the big guy?

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I don’t mind the two small guys

frosty mango
#

Remember you are all much better the the average player just by virtue of being here and learning

solid sun
#

I do everything on the bridge

sharp merlin
#

But also the patrol?

solid sun
#

And then I pull the pack to the right of the bridge with me to the left

#

But yeah pugs are pugs

sharp merlin
#

These guys all in one

solid sun
#

No

sharp merlin
#

I asked if BL was up cause I take the patrol into it with BL

#

And he thought, pull that big guy too

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Sigh..

frosty mango
#

If lust is up here I make a huge pull

sharp merlin
#

And they kicked me and blamed me for being near it on the bridge ahaha

solid sun
#

lol

#

Idk people crazy

#

I two starred an eco dome and then got bitched at for not doing pylons

#

Literally DM’d roid

#

Found out he hadn’t been messing with them either

#

Everyone has opinions but few want to tank. I started letting them know if they were interested in routing the dungeon they should start tanking and just keep doing whatever I was doing

#

If someone hits me up and wants to discuss a change before or after the run I’ll engage but the buffoonery I have no time for

sharp merlin
#

I remember putting my route in

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3.5K mage goes ā€œshit routeā€

#

Okay share a better one

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ā€œNah it’s only 15 it doesn’t matterā€

digital salmon
#

Nobody wants to tank it’s way easier to complain while someone does it

frosty mango
#

lol I never do pylons

#

If dps wanna stand there channeling go ahead but I ain’t stopping

shrewd grove
#

Who tf does pylons? Aren't they like 10% haste or something dumb?

#

For 30s?

frosty mango
#

Yes

#

Completely worthless

shrewd grove
#

"Let me just waste 10 seconds of the key to get a useless buff that will be half gone by the time the next pack gets settled"

#

Stronk brains

solid sun
#

The more popular some of the m+ tanks become the worse it gets

#

Which isn’t their fault

#

But people just want to do this stupid shit you don’t need to do

frosty mango
#

If the pylons were 10% damage

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I would absolutely stop

solid sun
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Or they’re used to playing in their premade and then get on alts and expect the same stuff

frosty mango
#

But 10% haste is a complete waste of time imo

solid sun
#

Sometimes I’m a little too petty though

#

I gotta work on it tbh

plush tendon
#

but yea, 100% worthless

#

I think the only one we get is the last one

#

at least my group gets it

sonic crag
#

Doesn't the channel go faster with more clicking it?

plush tendon
#

Im stuck wrangling creepers

sonic crag
#

Not saying it's worth, but if everyone clicks for 2 seconds it's not as bad, but only if you can go into a pack or last boss immediately

frosty mango
#

not to mention the packs where you do them you typically LOS so people standing out in africa channling the dumb pylon really hunders your gather

brave otter
#

Is it worth to take hero track ire with cartel when the event hit, kinda hard to get it on pugmonkahmm

frosty mango
#

really going to depend on the rest of your gear and whats available to you

brave otter
#

I have myth tome and pacemaker alr

#

So its raid trinket only I think

plush tendon
#

hero brand will prob be better then tome in keys

#

idk, Im finding myself not really needing dinars

#

wish we could use it on any piece of gear

#

like rings and stuff

cerulean tusk
#

Brand is around 8-11% of my dam, Tome is around 2-4%

#

let me doublecheck that

#

checks out

#

brand crits

thin nymph
#

Hey guys. Is there a break point for haste at around 40% ? I’ve been aiming my character but when I’m looking at all the top warriors on Rio I’ve noticed nearly all of them are at around 40% haste

cerulean tusk
#

tldr: we get enough haste value to that we can take ITF and have (ideally) 100% shieldblock uptime. Then we start minmaxing DPS, where ya slowly start downprio haste for other stats. Guess 40% is that area ish.

warm plinth
#

40% is a bit much if it's from rating

#

well, it's the top end of what you'd go for I guess

#

Like that'd be the hard stopping point where I would suggest changing enchants and gems to lower it a bit

#

Sims will not account for that haste value and will have you going for other stats much sooner

thin nymph
#

Yeah I’ve been looking at my logs and wondering why I haven’t been able to get 18-20 sheiled slam cpm and have been working on that uptime just to improve. And was wondering if I couldn’t reach that because I was lower on the haste side.

What I’ve seen a lot of the top guys are sitting bettering 22k- 24k haste

warm plinth
#

Logs of what?

#

Keys or raid

thin nymph
#

Keys

warm plinth
#

idk, 20 cpm of ss would be high in keys

#

like 17-18 is fine

thin nymph
#

I’ve been kinda comparing my cast to others in keys and have notice a lot a 18-20

#

But I mean if 17-18 is fine then I’m not far off

warm plinth
#

Realistically there's not a CPM you should aim for. I'm just stating where I'd be like yeah you're fine on SS usage without digging in further

thin nymph
#

I’ve notice another thing is sims is telling me to take a sacbrood over antenna and it’s just another thing I’ve kinda been playing with

warm plinth
#

That sounds uh, weird

#

What kind of sim are you doing

cerulean tusk
#

My sims tell me Lo' + Sac is better than Antenna, so meh

thin nymph
#

Yea it’s been doing my head in. I’ve been doing 1 tar 5 mins and 5 tar 5 mins

lusty grotto
#

5 mins 5 target sim is only for brand

#

5 target 1.5 mins is the most correct one

#

link sim after you run 1.5 min

cerulean tusk
#

As you go continously, you should do 8t 20min, to make sure brand gets its fair chance to show off its 11% total dam potential

lusty grotto
#

lol cmon now

dusky canopy
#

I usually sim my trinkets for 20 minutes

limpid ruin
#

Nah keys last 30 minutes do that

cerulean tusk
lusty grotto
#

i knew this was coming

cerulean tusk
#

craiii miiii a riiiiver

#

rattiiieeee boiiiooo

#

your hatie stinky

dusky canopy
#

The boost key is usually 20 minutes so why wouldn’t I sim my trinket for 20 minutes

lusty grotto
#

aren mii the wii things?

#

memes aside the guy is obviously simming wrong

cerulean tusk
#

Not necessarly, my sims, as said bring lo' + sac, over antenna (all HC)

thin nymph
#

Idk I was a dps main so that’s just what I’ve always done tbh. I didn’t realise it was 5 tar 1.5m

lusty grotto
#

a warrior dps main?

#

or a different class

cerulean tusk
#

Why would that ever matter garms

lusty grotto
#

cause 2 mins classes vs 90s classes

cerulean tusk
#

Dont trust rat in a hat, is got an agenda

lusty grotto
#

yes my agenda is to help

#

im a helpful rat

#

sorry mouse

#

fuck

cerulean tusk
#

Hah!

#

Caught in 4k

#

The truth is now cannon

limpid ruin
#

Hypothetically he could be crazy crit heavy but it would take some real work to make it happen

lusty grotto
limpid ruin
#

10k haste 30k crit xan

cerulean tusk
#

Full Crit/mast

#

it is underrated

lusty grotto
#

heavy rep gang

cerulean tusk
#

it is a ton of fun

thin nymph
#

I was a warlock main

lusty grotto
#

enjoy your -126k dps!

#

wait

cerulean tusk
#

sims aint worth shit

#

so

#

get rekt

#

scrub

lusty grotto
cerulean tusk
#

go play keys

lusty grotto
#

-256k dps LOL

cerulean tusk
#

then come back at me

#

ya rat

thin nymph
#

But yeah I mean maybe it’s just simming incorrcectly, my stats imo are relatively balanced I thought compared to all the top m+ players

lusty grotto
#

your stats compared to other players dont matter

#

also you played warlock

thin nymph
#

I just noticed that all the top guys are using even just a 707 antenna

lusty grotto
#

arent warlocks 2 mins?

#

did you rerun the sim

#

at 1.5 mins?

thin nymph
#

I can’t atm at work

lusty grotto
#

well

#

i cant say for a fact

#

youre doing something very wrong

lofty warren
#

There's a 706 ilvl item that is bis?

lusty grotto
#

cause i cant reproduce soleah + ara kara simming higher than

cerulean tusk
#

smh

lusty grotto
#

at equal ilvls

cerulean tusk
#

Imagine not having my gear setup

lusty grotto
#

thats no excuse, i raid as fury too

lofty warren
#

Oh ain't nobody cares equal ilvls you gotta compare at the higher ilvl for the myrhic ones

cerulean tusk
#

what ya trollin about now, mr pepe

lusty grotto
#

that is some trolling lol

lofty warren
#

Nim said that the trinket is bis but only if you cap items at 707 ilvls.. right?

lusty grotto
#

no

#

i didnt say that

cerulean tusk
#

me and rat know your ways too well

frosty mango
#

What we fighting bout

#

I wanna fight

cerulean tusk
#

Brand is BiS trinky

lusty grotto
#

dn

#

thats true

lofty warren
#

I must have misunderstood this

frosty mango
#

Oi dey fightin

cerulean tusk
lusty grotto
#

higher than antenna

lofty warren
#

Ohh i had read the "at equal ilvls" as response for.. whatever doesn't matter, I don't need to go find some weird 707 ilvl trinket since its not bis

lusty grotto
#

yeah i dont know why he said that

#

but i wasnt responding to it

#

i tend not to respond to people comparing themselves with the "top guys"

#

cause its unhelpful to begin with

cerulean tusk
#

... but rat

#

you did respond to the guy

lusty grotto
#

not to that specific message

cerulean tusk
#

Oh we being a little rat, nibling away and trying to scurry away from the reality of the matter

lofty warren
#

In bfa I was bdk and I kept dying even though I did what the guide said then I looked at the "top guys" and saw lots of vers stacking so i did that and didn't get 1 shot on pull in 20+ keys

cerulean tusk
#

Oh, well, carry on

grim pilot
#

Piece of shit

#

Waiting for dinars

lofty warren
#

But that's probably an inomoly

grim pilot
#

Its my last excuse for damage

lusty grotto
#

youre not alone

cerulean tusk
#

I got it from the one chest thingie we got

#

get

#

good

#

B)

lusty grotto
#

i dont even have a heroic brand

grim pilot
#

Well my damage is not bad but there’s this 1 chinese dude who does like 8% more overall

#

He also has insane timers but w.e skill diff as well ig

lusty grotto
#

fuck i really wanna play remix but i need crests

#

oh shit that reminds me

#

@plush tendon give me the play by play to game gilded achieve with my alt

#

what 704 shit do i need to up, the alt is at 715

lofty warren
#

Is midnight even going to be playable without valorstones?

lusty grotto
#

ok now youre not even trying

lofty warren
#

Lol ok thay was a joke you got me

solid sun
#

They’ve lost their touch

lusty grotto
#

good one

thin nymph
#

Thanks for the ā€œadviceā€ I’ll just aim myself at 1.5 mins when I get home and go from there

plush tendon
thin nymph
#

And I’ll stop comparing myself to the top players (:

plush tendon
#

then I upgraded my warrior

#

so like, my dk did 2h wep, chest, helm

lusty grotto
#

cause i just resimmed at 5 mins... and those trinkets you mentioned are not even close

plush tendon
#

Pal did legs and trinkets

lusty grotto
#

oh you did it by slot

plush tendon
#

exactly

lusty grotto
#

not by average ilvl?

#

hmm

plush tendon
#

well, the discount is based on slot

#

you just need a toon to get the gilded achievement

#

and it can be any toon

lusty grotto
#

right but the achieve is by average ilvl

plush tendon
#

well, I was close on the alts to get it by them

lusty grotto
#

so you got the achieve first and then upped slots for discounts?

plush tendon
#

so I earned it via DK

#

yea, achievement first

lusty grotto
#

ok that makes more sense

#

i have a plan then

plush tendon
#

then you get discounts on the various slots amongst your alts

#

big point to remember (I think you told me this) upgrade a 2h first

#

as arms spec

lusty grotto
#

yeah that one is done

plush tendon
#

it will give you free upgrades on 1H and Shield

#

which was massive

lusty grotto
#

yuppers

plush tendon
#

I also recommend avoiding upgrading crafted to 727 if you can help it

lusty grotto
#

that one i couldnt avoid due to fury offhand

plush tendon
#

30 gilded for a +4 i level is bad value

#

when you can get +3 with 15 runed

lusty grotto
#

since crafted is pretty much bis

#

but im def holding out on the rest

plush tendon
#

yea, this is somre cringe min max shit im doing

#

it prob result in a extra .5-1 I level this week

#

and then next week Ill prob hit 724/725

#

but itll make dinar Tuesday super easy

#

Ill need a total of like 200 gilded to max out my gear

#

and Ill have like 500+ runed crests save

#

which at 45->15 conversion

#

will be 165 gilded

lusty grotto
#

wonder what strategic uppies i can do here for quick 720

plush tendon
#

on literal login

plush tendon
lusty grotto
#

180 this week

#

on this toon

plush tendon
#

so you have a couple of high value break point

#

723-727 is a +4 I level

#

which is big

lusty grotto
#

hmm

plush tendon
#

obivosuly you send 15 runed on each crafted piece for +3

lusty grotto
#

i was thinking of getting low ilvls up first

plush tendon
#

the other good upgrade is 710->714

#

you can also math it out

#

add up all the slots I level

#

divide by the number of slots you added

lusty grotto
#

yeah good idea

plush tendon
#

then play around with how you spend your crests

#

for max gains

#

but with 4 crafted, im insta sending 60 runed on those

lusty grotto
#

let me see

plush tendon
#

theres also the question about what slots you want to upgrade on war

#

or whoever is your main

dusky canopy
#

Weapon

plush tendon
#

you can get the DH to 720, but if the slots you want to upgrade for war arent higher on DH, you wont get a discount

lusty grotto
#

yeah im thinking ring and neck are good slots to up

#

for that reason

dusky canopy
#

My character is broken nim

lusty grotto
#

how come

plush tendon
#

like I did these upgrades for my DK

#

granted he was 718 going into this week

dusky canopy
#

I press same amount of button and do less damage

#

Even sim higher

plush tendon
#

then this on paladin

plush tendon
#

which let my warrior do all these slots

#

plus a +1 upgrade on the brand

dusky canopy
lusty grotto
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are you comparing with the log

dusky canopy
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Ye

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More pre science than me

lusty grotto
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vs the other guy in the log?

outer folio
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Is PI for Fury warrior actually a thing?

lusty grotto
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or yourself?

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it can be yes, but its not the best class for it

dusky canopy
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LOL

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We were both getting PI ye

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One priest so random

lusty grotto
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i forget, did you have an aug

dusky canopy
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Yes

lusty grotto
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and who is the aug buffing

dusky canopy
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Both of us but him more

lusty grotto
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yeah i mean

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you gotta take those two things into account

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plus variance

dusky canopy
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Yeah I mean this guys good

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I think I’m just bad at fury

lusty grotto
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i dont think so

dusky canopy
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WoWA says I’m doing good

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But I don’t get the same damage as others

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Sim is good

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Stats are good

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Damage balls

lusty grotto
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have you compared uptime

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and APM?

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APM is how i realized that 2 is really not the best bind for RB

frosty mango
lusty grotto
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cause sometimes you just wanna move

frosty mango
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also

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your inputqueue

lusty grotto
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oh yeah

frosty mango
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when I am home my ping is like 9ms

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I had to lower my substantially because it was shafting my apm

lusty grotto
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i changed my spellqueue from 120 to 150

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and it did make a difference

frosty mango
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fury is very very very very spammy

lusty grotto
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cause i remembered nome said you never wanted to go down below 150

dusky canopy
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So my CPM is almost identical with his

lusty grotto
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even if you have the ping for it

frosty mango
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and getting shafted by your spellqueue will absolutely dunk you

dusky canopy
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Some of my abilites are slightly above

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Some are slightly below

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Like .xx differences

frosty mango
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didnt you post in help and log review

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recently

dusky canopy
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Yeah I removed it since I wasn’t sure if prog logs were reasonable for that sort of thing

frosty mango
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I wouldn't really try to performance manage prog logs

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unless youre so far below its hindering you

dusky canopy
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Nah not a massive gap

frosty mango
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well not at your level anyway, youll have a pretty clear indication of if you are/arent playing correctly from your farm logs

dusky canopy
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But noticeable

frosty mango
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when I look at your fury logs the only thing I really see is you aren't capitalizing on executes to cdr bladestorm enough and that eats your damage a bit

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that and you have poop trinkets

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screams is super impactful for fury isnt it?

lusty grotto
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and arcano

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for ST

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both are pretty sizeable

frosty mango
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yeah but I think most big parsing warriors are using both - right?

dusky canopy
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I’m suprised it appears that I don’t capitalize executes I feel like I hammer that button when kaching sounds

frosty mango
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or antenna

lusty grotto
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its antenna + one of those

frosty mango
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which drove 1 additional bladestorm

lusty grotto
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brew

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on execute phase