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plush tendon
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AMS+Lichborne+IBF for personals

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10% more stam

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Will of the Necropolosis

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and death strike

sharp merlin
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But I had the boostie belt to help me ahaha

solid sun
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I can’t wait to see how midnight changes up specs

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I want it meow

undone beacon
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I'm just curious to see what these apex talents are gonna look like

warm plinth
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I'm great. Work got us an ice cream truck

undone beacon
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"Shield block blocks 100% more shields"

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Imagine if they removed spell block cuz our final apex node lets us just block spells

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big brain

solid sun
warm plinth
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I remember seeing a mockup of the new dh spec and preservation's apex talents and wasn't impressed. Seemed quite meh

solid sun
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Until max which is 360 degrees

warm plinth
undone beacon
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"Armored Ass - You can block hits from behind"

warm plinth
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Please let it actually be called armored ass

undone beacon
solid sun
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I haven’t even eaten today

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I’m so hungies

warm plinth
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Brownie brittle? Like peanut brittle but brownies?

undone beacon
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yeah

warm plinth
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That sounds good. I didn't know that existed.

undone beacon
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these shits

solid sun
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How does the chocolate get hard

undone beacon
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goated snack

undone beacon
solid sun
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Is the secret that it’s always hard

fathom oasis
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just give apex talent: shield block blocks 300% the amount it would normally block, and watch people skip it in favour of other defensive talents

warm plinth
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Did you just have the og cheezits or flavored?

undone beacon
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these shits

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mmmm

solid sun
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Cheez brittle

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And chocolate brittle

undone beacon
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Now combine the two and hot diggity thats a snack

warm plinth
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I ain't mad at it

undone beacon
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Used my lunch break to sit on the couch like a lump and shove brownie brittle and toasty cheezits in my gaping maw, life is good

solid sun
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Do you request thin crust on your pizza, Pash

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Because the crust is crispier

undone beacon
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I dont eat pizza

fathom oasis
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D:

undone beacon
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So I dont have a preference

warm plinth
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No pizza? D:

solid sun
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Kosher

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I forgot

undone beacon
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LOL

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Nah I just dont like tomato based sauces

warm plinth
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Fair

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I love me a good marinara

solid sun
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What about an Alfredo pizza

undone beacon
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And i feel like an ass asking for people to order something different just for me

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Eh at that point I'll just get a calzone

solid sun
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Bbq also pretty popular

warm plinth
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Or chicken bacon ranch

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Nomnomnom

solid sun
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Hell yeah

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We would eat pizza with you

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Clearly

undone beacon
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A good chicken bacon ranch is hard to beat for sure

shrewd grove
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Thin crust pizza is so fucking goated

warm plinth
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My favorite pizza of all time though? Just og pepperoni

undone beacon
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I'm also just a big subs guy so whenever people order they pizza I just get an italian sub

warm plinth
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That's my jam

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You're an Italian sub

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Gottem

solid sun
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Pepperoni and black olives or pepperoni and jalapeño

warm plinth
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Ok lunch over. Gotta go back to working now sadge

undone beacon
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LOOK you give me a good raw tomato and i will eat that shit right up. The second you apply heat, its ruined

warm plinth
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I'm the literal opposite lmao

plush tendon
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thats weird as shit to me

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growing up, we had pizza like 3-4 times a week

undone beacon
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I sit here and munch cherry tomatos, I will eat a fuckin tomato like an apple

solid sun
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I like tomatoes any way you give em to me

warm plinth
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I will eat absolutely any tomato product except for raw tomato

undone beacon
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I will rip and tear a big ass beefsteak tomato

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Yes I was bullied for it

solid sun
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What about a fried green tomato

warm plinth
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Ketchup, salsa, tomato sauce, love me some cherry tomatoes in a nice pasta dish. But no ty on raw. Gross.

undone beacon
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Ketchup makes me retch im ngl

lusty grotto
undone beacon
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I'm just very particular about my food, much to the chagrin of those who are made to dine with me

mortal cypress
undone beacon
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No tomato based sauces, no bone-in meat, no shellfish, avoid pork as much as possible (though sometimes I sin), no soda

lusty grotto
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heinz peepostudy beans peepostudy pizza?

mortal cypress
lusty grotto
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my bro doesnt do bones in meat

undone beacon
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I HATE THOSE SLIMY BEANS AAAAA

lusty grotto
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so youre not alone

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my brother, sorry

mortal cypress
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The beans will get you!

lusty grotto
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you know

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id be willing to try it

undone beacon
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Like cooking meat with the bone, all good. But once its on a plate it better be fucking boneless

solid sun
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Are those baked beans

sharp merlin
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Does spell reflect mitigate black blood?

lusty grotto
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sure? its MDR

undone beacon
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I dont want games with my food i wanna shovel it in my gullet

mortal cypress
solid sun
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I’m not a baked beans kinda guy

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Love all kinds of beans but baked ain’t for me

undone beacon
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i hated beans up until recently. Except baked beans cuz slimy, still hate those

lusty grotto
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you dont like having gas for 8 hours straight?

kind urchin
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I worked in the pizza business for about 10 years. There are just too many good options to really have a favorite. You can't go wrong with a classic pep or cheese though.

mortal cypress
undone beacon
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I worked a summer at a Pizza Ranch as a teenager, so I too was in the pizza business. We are kindred souls

mellow yoke
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Deadly combo

undone beacon
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innit

solid sun
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I delivered for papa John’s

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And also worked as a manager for a brief stint at one

undone beacon
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Sounds miserable

solid sun
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That’s why it was brief

undone beacon
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better papa, better john, ingredient pizza

kind urchin
solid sun
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He’s such a tool

undone beacon
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none pizza left beef

mortal cypress
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Their chicken on the pizza is gross

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Papa johns that is

undone beacon
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Unrelated but correct me if im wrong, we can only buy champ track delve trinks yeah?

mellow yoke
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They making it

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Hero track

undone beacon
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neato. I want a nethergate to mess with for guildie vault keys

halcyon jungle
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im 684 ilvl with some pvp gear on, protwarr, dont wanna raid but i might push some mythics/ solo delves. should i be spending my crests on upgrading any gear?
or save it for bis pieces?

undone beacon
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You can used runed on whatever, its advised to save gildeds for myth pieces from vault

mellow yoke
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21 first we get gilded uncap

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So

undone beacon
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But at this point in the season without myth raid you're far enough behind on myth gear it wont matter

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Plus uncapped crests towards the end of next month yeah

mellow yoke
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If you havent spent any just upgrade any

lusty grotto
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runed crests

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anything under runed you can spend at your heart's content

mellow yoke
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He gonna get 3 until gilded uncap

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And cap is quite high rn

plush tendon
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he has 4 crafts

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which will be 240 gilded needed

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he'll need a lot of dungeons before hes capping on gildeds with nothing to send on

undone beacon
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What’s the cap at right now, 500 something?

mellow yoke
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540 i think

undone beacon
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It’s at least 7, I know that

jagged pier
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630

dry skiff
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remind me how are we getting 100% shield block with Into the fray ? wasnt it just 2x charges, shield charge and good amount of haste ?

jagged pier
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u cant get 100% shield block, u can get close too about 90% effective uptime

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with proper play

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and haste lvl

mellow yoke
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With 24,5k haste i got 98% on HoA

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Or ur talking about blocked hits

mental scarab
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How big dps loss is HR compared to ITF?

lusty grotto
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can sim it

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its also a rage intake loss

mental scarab
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Aye I’m gonna do that,

mellow yoke
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Its noticeable

mental scarab
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Duk

halcyon jungle
mental scarab
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HR is so fun and easy playing when you try to push keyssadge just send and play no thinking

lusty grotto
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if youre planning on doing keys, you gotta do 6s

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plus weekly maps in delves

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save your runed for hero track items and nothing else

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spend the carved and anything under

halcyon jungle
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whats 6s?

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mythic 6?

lusty grotto
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m+

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keys

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lvl 6

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if you dont plan on farming hero track items... then by all means

chilly brook
plush tendon
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ill be honest, this late in the season id just spend all my runed, carved, and weathered crests

chilly brook
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save them

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especially with Turbo Boost coming so soon

polar pelican
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i have 600 carved and weather and 450 runed saved

mental scarab
polar pelican
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ez 200 gilded in 2 weeks

chilly brook
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massive reduction in amount of dungeons needed to run

coarse bay
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Turbo boost so soon, but not uncapped gilded for another like 3 weeks 😦

polar pelican
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oh true forgot

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turbo is reset after next right

lusty grotto
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no

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2 resets

polar pelican
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reset after reset after reset

chilly brook
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Turbo technically hits on Tuesday but only like partially iirc

polar pelican
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or reset after reset

lusty grotto
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well 3 resets to be specific

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not 2

chilly brook
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Everything is go go on the 21st

coarse bay
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Its like end of next month

chilly brook
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or just figure out how to not get in that situation

mental scarab
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Well yeas

coarse bay
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Honestly wont even be far off except for alts, i think by then just upgrading runed etc will cap me

chilly brook
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I feel like I'm being so casual this season lmao

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haven't even hit 3k on any of my toons despite actually pushing last season

polar pelican
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theres just not a real reason to when pugging m+ is so ass

coarse bay
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I havent been very motivated this season, only did like 6 characters this season and i benched druid and dh a week ago too

chilly brook
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pugging is fine

polar pelican
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just fill your vault and zzz if you aren't pushing like 18s

chilly brook
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I think it's likely just end of expansion wind down and just wanting next expansion ]

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also, like, I've played this expansion a shit ton lmao

plush tendon
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IDK his skill level, or if hes pugging

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but he should get as much power as he can so he get into higher level content

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and the caps are so high right now; itll take a lot of keys before any sane person reaches them

undone beacon
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Easy work for a fresh faced baby prot mmhm

frosty mango
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I took my guildies warrior into 11s/12s last night

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At 680

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It’s not a problem with a remotely competent group to farm out crest cap quickly on an alt

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He tanked them too lol

plush tendon
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I did the same on my 680 bear

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timed a 12 Prio and DB with friends

halcyon jungle
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hope i can find some groupd

plush tendon
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I think it just depends on who will help

halcyon jungle
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i wanna do the waterworks one

frosty mango
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Yeah I think people really underestimate the impact of skill

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And overestimate the necessity of gear

plush tendon
plush tendon
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happened twice

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I kept hitting regrowth

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which I had bound from DF or something

fathom oasis
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it's all relative, right? you obviously can't tank with 300ilvl, and you also can't tank if you don't have a keyboard

frosty mango
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It’s dash that gets me

plush tendon
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I also still have a sick 560 trinket

frosty mango
fathom oasis
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but when we are talking about a 10-15ilvl difference, skill is a lot bigger factor than gear

frosty mango
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Also I’ve tanked lots of keys on a controller

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So nyah

fathom oasis
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haha fair

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you got me on that one

plush tendon
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check out this bad boi

frosty mango
plush tendon
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where does this rank on the trinket tier list

fathom oasis
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S++

frosty mango
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S for speed

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Where’s Deswind when you need him

fathom oasis
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Augusto is the real priest of the church of speed

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You cannot convince me otherwise

plush tendon
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Speed is so underrated

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I need more on my warrior

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so I can dodge the Sentinal frontals faster in Eco

fathom oasis
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you caused this

frosty mango
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I’m up to like 7500 on my speed set

plush tendon
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dont know why anyone would run the .15% crit damage one

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when 2% stacking movespeed exists

frosty mango
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Do you get 4% for a single 2 color gem?

plush tendon
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I think its 2% per unique color

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so 8% total

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if you use all 4 types of gems

fathom oasis
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unless

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you run the cursed gem

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for the memes

plush tendon
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do I give up 150 of a secondary for 200 stam and 2% move speed

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idk.... seems kind of wurf

fathom oasis
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limited screenshot

coarse bay
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Calling the gem cursed when its actually a 2% speed gem is crazy

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How much dps loss is it anyways

fathom oasis
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i think unsocketing all gems is like 1-2% dps?

frosty mango
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And everyone knows you gotta look good to be good

plush tendon
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I think its like a .2% dps loss

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to run a amber gem

frosty mango
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No one cares if your ford escort wins the race, it’s an escort

coarse bay
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Oh i dont use the gem, but im not opposed to it lol, 2% speed is better imo

lusty grotto
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meh

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i dont care about it

plush tendon
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Nim not fast

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comfirmed

lusty grotto
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im not a bdk

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so im def not a sloth

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i just dont give a shit about it

plush tendon
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IDK, my DK is fast af

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hes got a horse

lusty grotto
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i would give a shit for good BFA speed pots

plush tendon
lusty grotto
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fucking 2% MS lol... whatever

plush tendon
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every little bit of speed helps

lusty grotto
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for what

plush tendon
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to achieving the dream of going fast

frigid plume
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i run the stam gem, movespeed is BIS

heavy sparrow
frosty mango
frigid plume
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i have like 147% movespeed in raid 😎

frosty mango
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And Stan trinkets

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I have double Stam trinkets don’t @ me

mortal cypress
frigid plume
frosty mango
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Irl and in game

fathom oasis
lusty grotto
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what in tarnation

plush tendon
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ok, stam trinkets are lame

frosty mango
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Ur lame

plush tendon
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I draw the line there

frosty mango
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Gottem

lusty grotto
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youll summon the stam meme lord

plush tendon
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if it dont have crit, you must acquit

lusty grotto
plush tendon
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100%

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what about "Mastery? Travesty"

lusty grotto
lofty warren
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I didn't touch a key all week give should I do it tonight instead of trying to get diamond in overwatch tongithr?

lusty grotto
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eyir 8ball

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eyir you suck

lofty warren
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?

lusty grotto
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eyir sucks

lofty warren
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What's thay

lusty grotto
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eyir is broken sadge

lofty warren
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I'm not asking about Irish phone company

coarse bay
cerulean tusk
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Echo dome isn't my fav weekly key, I prefer Gambit. Just gigapull murlocks, and dopamine will carry you through the rest of the slog

mortal cypress
sinful copper
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can u boost me too

undone beacon
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Five prot warriors, a 10 gambit, let’s go

coarse bay
plush tendon
icy haven
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at what lvl do the dps stop being hard carried? running 15s atm and they never interrupt and just die to single boss mechanics....

coarse bay
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They stop being carried when u stop pugging

icy haven
mortal cypress
coarse bay
mortal cypress
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Spiral arrow lol

undone beacon
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I'll spiral ur arrow

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gottem

dusky canopy
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Rip pause button

orchid narwhal
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its sorta incredible how bad I can play and time keys

fathom oasis
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"this isn't even my final form"

hearty cipher
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if i wanted to spec my prot warrior for like pure dps. like only being tanky because of the spec, what stat would i want to prio?

mighty valley
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Whatever sims tell you to

mighty valley
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still haste up to a point so you can take ITF for the damage, then just sim everything

mortal cypress
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@coarse bay you are a baddy

chilly brook
mortal cypress
chilly brook
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but you said you didn't know what that means

mortal cypress
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i mean what is a "baddy"

mortal cypress
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its like when kids go "lowkey hate it bro"

chilly brook
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she's hot

mortal cypress
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literally had to use urban dictionary to see if lowkey is good or bad

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oh ok, then say that then

frosty mango
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Baddie vs baddy

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Go

lusty grotto
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baddee

frosty mango
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Badie

mortal cypress
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Baddie

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But you guys can't spell cheque correctly so...

lusty grotto
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sorry i cant hear you over the sound of miles, feet, and gallons

tardy turret
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Could I ask sorry in keys sometimes when playing with a druid I lose the Symbiotic Relationship buff from them, is there any potential reason to this?

warm plinth
mortal cypress
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Yup and feet for human height and gallons for some things, but it's usually litres.

warm plinth
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well, tbf we use liters for some things here keks

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Soda being the primary one

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But then we use ounces for them too because consistency

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like this is a 2-liter, but

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this is a 20 oz keks

mortal cypress
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We weigh humans in stone, food and pets in kilos and weird legacy stuff in lbs and ounces

fathom oasis
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either yours or his

neon elk
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Is the spear on 2nd eco dome boss supposed to do that much dmg even on weekly keys ?

oak ivy
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Walk into the other spear

neon elk
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Yea thats a new strat people are doing last few week, before everone just stood in theirs and lived , so again, is it supposed to do that much dmg when u stay in your ? Cuz i hella dont remeber it to be that hard

hollow orbit
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Just went out from an eco, and it seemns bugged

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People where getting insta 8 stacks

neon elk
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Yea that seems about right, healer barely could heal people in 12 while they had defensives

hollow orbit
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Yup, something broke. We tried people switching places which till earlier today was “working” and people stay at 1 stack, we tried separating, nada, spears come and people insta die

frosty mango
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uh

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did blizz break eco dome?

nocturne spindle
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yes

frosty mango
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I feel like thats not right

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lol

nocturne spindle
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probably trying to fix the no staack across spear

hollow orbit
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Yes, it’s currently broken

hallow quest
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Man priory 1st boss (taking left route) feels rough, on two occasions during the fight I dropped to like 20percent health on just a 9+, do u guys have tips on living the fight? I was popping shield walls and eventually last stand for each Judgment + Break Armor cast but ran out of cooldowns, spell reflect didn’t seem to work I think? Wondering if there’s any small tips

I’m 685 so that pro s doesn’t help but guessing boss damage will scale a lot harder than my defensive strength from gear anyway aha

lusty grotto
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was the judgment being dispelled?

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if you go left (which most of us havent done since last season), the healer should insta dispel

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and im assuming youre not dwarf

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so you just wall every one, SR works for the MDR on the initial hit on judgment but it does not reflect or deflect

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shouldnt be hard at 685

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would have to see logs

fathom oasis
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save shield reflect for the aoe that the lieutenant casts

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hope heal dispels insta

hallow quest
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Hmm wasn’t actually checking dispels but maybe, guess I’ll have to pay attention next time towards that

fathom oasis
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save a cd for the aoe + maul + bleed overlap

solid sun
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Or just go right

lusty grotto
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judgment is damage taken increase from all sources

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so it needs to be instantly dispelled

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period

hallow quest
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I did also have a few windows where my shield wall was barely off cd and I have 12 percent haste so maybe if I had more haste I wouldve been ok too

fathom oasis
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your low ilvl + possible the heals ilvl, and maybe missmanagement on the healer casts may be at fault

lusty grotto
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at +9 with 685, if youre dying its more than likely due to that

fathom oasis
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shield wall or shield block

lusty grotto
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thats not low ilvl...

hallow quest
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Wall

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Maybe if I cycled through more rage for cdr

lusty grotto
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yes

hallow quest
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Didn’t die in the end though aha just dropped low and worried about trying it higher

lusty grotto
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that should always happen regardless

fathom oasis
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you maybe be panicking and pressing ignore pain too much

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even if you are taking heavy damage, you need to follow the rotation, which dictates you only use Ignore Pain when above 70 rage

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if you over press IP you will generate less rage (by not reseting SS) and will suffer more as a result

neon elk
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Hard to have fluid rotation at 12% haste tho, regardles of his rage management, and without logs this is all just assumptions

lusty grotto
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how much rating is that

fathom oasis
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cant be 12% total

lusty grotto
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isnt 12% like 5k rating?

fathom oasis
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that'd be like 6k haste

lusty grotto
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yeah i hope they are playing Heavy Repercussions then

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bleed + unblocked hits + judgment = health dips

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this is not a gear issue

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685 for 9s is more than enough

hallow quest
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12percent haste because I just picked up stuff and everything turned out not to have haste hahaha

lusty grotto
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rating

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give us rating

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not percent

hallow quest
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Idk I’m not at computer now just remember it was percent

lusty grotto
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you can look in the armory page

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anyway at that low haste, you shouldn't be playing Into The Fray

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so double check if you have that talent

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while judgment not being dispelled is not on you, if youre taking extra damage with a damage amp on your character, it will chunk

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as a result of huge SB gaps

hallow quest
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Ah does haste solve SB gaps? I’ve been mostly trying time shield charge for when I have no charge of SB but hopefully with gear that doesn’t become necessary

lusty grotto
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you need 21k haste rating minimum to play ITF

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otherwise you will have massive SB gaps

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and yes SB's cd is hastened, which means its affected by haste

hallow quest
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Ah ok, I’ll see how I go, I think I replaced a bunch of gear after that run anyway so haste might be much higher now aha

lusty grotto
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make the talent switch

hallow quest
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Anyway got humbled by boss because before that I was pulling like 4-5 packs and not seeing my hp drop lol

lusty grotto
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dont sacrifice ilvl for haste

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either way

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judgment needs to be dispelled asap, once again

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if youre worried your healer cannot do it, or has no experience which is fine, then right side is probably best

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we're all playing right side anyway

hallow quest
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Yea fair maybe I’ll pivot towards that

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I’ve been a bit scared because on the occasions I’ve tried priory (as a dps) on tank went right the healer seemed to struggle to keep anyone up… I just lived with ice cold so it was w/e

lusty grotto
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on higher keys the healer will struggle more going left

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a shitton more

hallow quest
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Yea I figure aha

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Having said that ur right that whenever r the tank went left they had a good chance of flopping during first boss

proper nova
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Are all m+ automarkers the same or is one best?

hallow quest
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Shit and I know I struggle to holy radiance on 16 if I’m off guard

frozen berry
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Left was more manageable as Colossus imo, being able to use avatar to get shield wall helped a lot

lusty grotto
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nah

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left was buffed

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is the problem

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and right was nerfed

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it has nothing to do with colossus or thane

plush tendon
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fixed now

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lmk if the swap strat still works (prob not lmao)

frosty mango
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imagine pushing changes to live silently on a monday

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at prime time

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thats actually wild

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avg developer and PO interaction

lusty grotto
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thats me

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im the send it nerd guy

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i had a deployment a couple of hours ago, and something didnt make sense when doing sanity tests

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and i can tell my team didnt want to deal with it so they wanted to roll it back

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so i was ready to just pull an all nighter to make sure it was in

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but yeah i kinda realized something told the team everything looks good and we're done

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i hate red tape, but its necessary

undone beacon
#

oh shit that reminds me

#

i gotta turn back on our xdr on the servers people were updating today

tribal wharf
frosty mango
#

I got asked today to run offensive pen testing against a saas product, I said “ok sure” and then deleted that email because I like my job

solid sun
#

So you don't wanna be offensive because you might get fired?

#

Like writing with a pen that has questionable phrases or insults on it would probably be looked at pretty negatively

#

Don't need to test it

frosty mango
#

-# than the sword

#

you dont run pen testing tools on other peoples servers without permission

#

that is a very big no no

lament osprey
#

Any yall know how to filter by tanks in Warcraft logs?

frosty mango
#

like its up there with kicking children

frosty mango
lament osprey
#

Specifically looking for dh for saladbar

frosty mango
#

like what do you want to see

lament osprey
#

If they can solo

frosty mango
lament osprey
#

Thank you

solid sun
#

I don't think any spec can solo Saladbar right now on mythic

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That would be pretty difficult

frosty mango
#

so no

#

but you also said could not have

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the sky is the limit friend

solid sun
#

I just don't think any spec does enough damage to actually solo him, y'know

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He's got a lot of health

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Plus two platforms

frosty mango
#

True those platforms are far

#

That’s a big leap

#

You are the best troll rhino

#

Subtle mastery

solid sun
frosty mango
#

Speaking of troll can someone please go to the dk discord and tell the blood dks you don’t need grips and tigers lusts on plexus, just press your cloak after the tank bomb
Is in the air

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If I have one more dk rage over grips or tl im gonna lose it

solid sun
#

Woah holy cow

#

I have literally never thought about using the cloak outside of crossing the wall

#

You have enough time?

frosty mango
#

Yes you have a billion years

#

It’s only a 10s cd

#

You press cloak when the projectile starts to fly, and it doesn’t even hit you when it lands

solid sun
#

IT DOESN'T EVEN HIT YOU

#

lmfaoooooooooo god I wish I was ever going to kill that boss again

frosty mango
#

Like on war I leap so far out it doesn’t even do raid damage and then cloak>charge back

solid sun
#

I'd leap and then trudge back and then charge just in time to help with the group 1 soak

#

It's time for my last weekly dungeon

#

I bet this goes swimmingly

#

hey @frosty mango I finally crossed the 5m dps bar last night

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At least on details. idk what the log would show

frosty mango
#

Doesn’t matter bc you are now invited to Valhalla

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Welcome

solid sun
#

ty ty

frosty mango
#

Was it execute or push spec

solid sun
#

I only run the weekly build

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14 Halls

waxen cradle
#

What stats are you guys using in terms of gems when at 25k Haste, stuck between crit/vers gems or crit/mastery ?

solid sun
#

Well, weekly build with HR because my haste is low

frosty mango
#

Which is basically crit/vers

waxen cradle
#

I did just notice my mastery is 15 % lol

frosty mango
#

Which is of course ok

#

@warm plinth

warm plinth
#

Isn't 15% mastery pretty damn low anyway

#

We have like 8% base, so that's only like 5k mastery or some shit

waxen cradle
#

Yeah made a few gear swaps and got it back up

sinful copper
#

I think one part I messed up on was I tried dropping 2nd bomb in the back and then the push back happened and pushed me through the back wall

warm plinth
#

5.6 mil overall, feelsgoodman

sinful copper
#

Wow which dungeon?

warm plinth
#

Priory

frosty mango
sinful copper
#

Omg that's cool

lusty grotto
frosty mango
#

Because you’re gonna be there anyway

solid sun
sharp merlin
#

When to change ITTF to HR?

heavy sparrow
#

Whenevee you want baby

frosty mango
barren cedar
#

Yo where do people get their Dungeon routes from?

sharp merlin
#

I died first pull flood gate, I assume I should be getting healed a little bit mroe than this?

viscid lantern
#

its a point where everyone gets dmg so i guess he focused on the group

fleet flicker
#

It has weekly routes for all the dungeons

barren cedar
barren cedar
tame jasper
barren cedar
#

Oh nice that's very helpful

#

I'm just changing to tanking because the queue times for DPS are unbearable

red tree
#

Guild just got into Forgeweaver Araz this weekend and I am having trouble seeing the energy levels of the collectors. Is there a trick to it or a weak aura / plater setting I could use to see it easily?

sweet summit
#

<@&257983573498265600> mods take them out back

ionic fern
#

Took them out back.

sweet summit
#

🫡

pallid quiver
#

What's out back? Do we have a water slide out back!? I wanna go on the water slide!

blazing shuttle
#

No, not you!

#

It’s a slide for… mean people.

sharp merlin
#

Can I drop Shield Spec for Bloodborne?

fathom oasis
fleet flicker
paper stump
# sharp merlin I died first pull flood gate, I assume I should be getting healed a little bit m...

I will share with you my humble beginner way of dealing with 1st big pull of Flood. Youre mounted and charge the first add > clap > shield block > shield wall > leap forward > clap > slam > stack them all > aoe shout taunt > avatar > Demora shout > roar > shield wall > shield charge > clap > slam > last stance if needed…. Of course youre throwing IP here and there and you never turn your back to any add… Go with the rotation adding some ccs and kicks … I dunno if I am doing the perfect opener, but this is usually helps me survive …

sharp merlin
sharp merlin
fathom oasis
sharp merlin
#

good to know 😄 I didn't read that

#

I just notice tanks at my keylevel are dropping shield spec for bb

paper stump
#

I always type this phrase everytime i join a group and we are about to start the key. “ CCs/ Kicks / Play Smart… Key timed … Everyone happy ..”

fathom oasis
#

There's been long discussions on this discord on the topic of Shield Specialization, feel free to use the search bar

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Lots of strong opinions in the matter

sharp merlin
#

tbf I respect that guy's opinion a lot, and will stick to it

fathom oasis
#

You are free to form your own opinion, and there are long and thorough discussions on the topic regarding why you should or shouldn't

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General opinion, in this discord at least, is that you give up too much defensive power by dropping it, that is not worth the offensive power you gain

sharp merlin
#

Upon looking at logs, I didn't realise the contractor does so much melee damage, I thought I was getting smacked by the Wind up, holy cow!

sharp merlin
#

thank you for sharing!

fathom oasis
#

Happy to help okayge

paper stump
#

I would like to participate in this discussion, so in conclusion, is shield spec good or bad? And why many high key prots drop it? Do they really trust in their healers or they just wanna contribute to the damage meter more?

fathom oasis
#

I'm merely a communicator on this topic. I have neither the wits nor the experience to provide thoughtful arguments for or against. There is, however, plenty of previous discussions you can check to see why most people here see dropping that point as something silly

sharp merlin
#

I mean I could drop Blood Surge for BB surely

fathom oasis
sharp merlin
fathom oasis
#

It's a very recurring topic of which most veteran people here have already given their opinion on numerous occasions, so they may not be as willing to repeat themselves

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That's why I recommend checking past convos

paper stump
#

I am writing this while looking at some players in WCL. Will give you an example, there is this warrior called Uglylabubu who has done EDA 19+ with Shield spec and 20+ without. The overall is barely noticeable only about 100k. In my tanking exp, i would like to make it easy for my team members especially healer to focus more on the whole team rather than mainly me as a tank. After all, M+ is all about being synced with others more crowd control more smooth gameplay and easy dealing with situations.

paper stump
bleak scaffold
#

Hi, just dropping my 2cents, I was curious, tried it, BSV triggers what ? like 1 or 2 in worst case in keys, and when it triggered so much it was not really a survive issue but rather part of a shitstorm because ninja pulls or parties not doing the mechanics/kicks. so in the end useless.

#

At high level (18 and higher) I cannot say from my experience as i've not pushed this season, but it seems that BSV makes sense because you have more chance of getting wacked even if everyones is doing their part

fathom oasis
#

This was regarding Shield Spec, not BSV, though

sharp merlin
#

I will never not run BSV, unless it's like a 10

bleak scaffold
#

Just because you take more damage than you have HP in less than a second, and not because of a tank buster, just there is so many mobs attacking you at once.

fathom oasis
#

BSV is also one of those talents that you take because it saves your key sometimes

#

Not because you intend to use it often

sharp merlin
#

I dunno why, but just having something, just anything in the backpocket is good

bleak scaffold
#

Sorry i red the point where MuseMoe mentionned dropping Shield Spec over BSV.

#

BSV itself is good, but depending on the level you play it's of a less value than other talents.

paper stump
bleak scaffold
#

The benefit of shield spec is quite undeniable, might seem not much but few 100ks DPS less is quite helpfull for the heal, we are getting hit all the time ^^

paper stump
#

I think BSV is a must for keys over 15+

round pendant
#

nah

paper stump
#

It reminds me of my blood dk purg but way better one

bleak scaffold
#

Cannot say, I don't do so high so I don't know how the scaling goes brrr or not 😄

#

At some point it's also you being confident. If you feel unsafe going out there without BSV then have it obviously

paper stump
#

After +14 you will be so lucky to find a pug to time +15 without suffering…

round pendant
#

There's only one 18 floodgate done without bsv

#

holy

#

at least of those that are logged

paper stump
#

I have been playing this game since 2005, and i will be honest here, whats the percentage of players who can balance CCs/ doing burst damage and avoiding puddles or any unnecessary hits? So rare. ppl nowadays are all about being meta hitting top parses and forget about mechs and how to play properly.

bleak scaffold
#

In high keys if you don't manage mechanics you have high chance of diying, not sure you get good parse out of that :x

paper stump
#

Okay in numbers and percentage, its the 0.1% even blizzard made that achiev which prove my point. They are about 1000 ppl i think i read that somehwere…

stoic pilot
#

Idk about actual numbers but in my experience since resilient has been a thing it’s been a bit harder to find reliable good players in LFG without doing a background check on players before inviting

round pendant
paper stump
#

I know there are many good players out there, but again as i mentioned so rare.

round pendant
#

I'd say 3300ish is where people start being consistently good at the game

#

but there's tons of good players below that too

#

it's just super ez for worse players to get carried below that rating

bleak scaffold
#

Not everyone as the will to push

bold shard
#

you shouldn't push! you could die on the pooper like Gigi from Sopranos, instead, drink a glass of pysllium husk every day or eat plenty of fiber

paper stump
#

And the moment blizzard allowed community services “using game gold for their pocket” the game became so annoyingly awful, but in the other hand thank God for WCL that tells us whos boosted or not.

bleak scaffold
#

it's a PULL door !

bold shard
#

boosting is weird, even for the most simplistic rotation I know of, warlock destruction

#

I'd need some time beforehand to get used to it and thus, boosting makes little sense

paper stump
bleak scaffold
#

There is also the point to have the time 😄

#

I played premade S1-S2, unfortunately 2 stopped after S2 and now doing mostly PUG and it's clearly not the same experience

#

Just to learn something and communicating, and not adding the fun factor, when you play all in audio with known people it's differente than just saying "hello", "gg" "bye"

paper stump
#

Of course it is not. You will reach to a point where the game is a mean to past time have fun and accept what it gives without having any commitment attached.

bleak scaffold
#

that's sad 🙁 i want to have fun 🙂

sharp merlin
#

I swore to not do this season if I had to pug, I'm glad I found a premade

#

even just being able to yap is really nice in keys

#

Although finding a premade is really hard, I never achieved less than 3.4k a season before DF and even then I would never have people who wanted me unless they wanted me to boost their alts

bleak scaffold
#

Difficult part is mostly find a premade with the same goals and expectations :x

#

plus in the language you want (french in my case, I could play in english but not have fun as it's too much to speak non nativ + play + fun ... :/)

sick sentinel
#

hey guys i wanted to ask, are the raid boots ev en worth it as prot how would hero track ones compare to myth track boots?

mellow yoke
#

Well its not that huge

sharp merlin
#

probably why I'm noticing a lot of my premade are dying to things which are avoidable, but they have already done the key, probably just can't be assed unless it gives them rio

mellow yoke
#

I feel like 19s are currently non puggable

#

Im sure

#

Like

#

At peak of day yday i saw

#

3

#

In queue

bleak scaffold
fathom oasis
#

Once you are pugging actual high keys one should add people who played well because it is possible they fond themselves later in the push

sharp merlin
#

I was gonna say, if you're doing those keys, surely you have added good players

#

and they will hit you up when they see you on

dusky canopy
solid sun
round pendant
#

😔

sinful copper
sharp merlin
#

3 common pug interactions 😂

strong forum
#

the best kind of interactions

mortal cypress
gray bane
#

out of curiosity, at what point would we prefer other stats over haste/crit? I'm currently sat at 42% crit, 41% haste (unbuffed) while my vers sits at only 3%, should I maybe sacrifice some haste/crit for vers?

bleak scaffold
#

You'll know that some mages don't know/realize that you can't use their portal once they leaved the group !

bleak scaffold
mortal cypress
gray bane
bleak scaffold
#

Haste is fine, min is 21-22k and max recommended 27k

#

Crit I would say too high as you "lose" score over 21k

gray bane
#

yeah I'm only7 05 atm anyway, so stuff will still change anyway I guess :)

#

alright cool, thank you, I'll look to drop some and get some more vers instead :)

bleak scaffold
#

So if you can drop 4k crit to switch to vers/mastery that would make sense

gray bane
#

yeah I can recraft a few bits

solid sun
#

I wouldn’t

bleak scaffold
#

Look if you cna swap a ring or neck maybe

#

You wouldn't recraft Rhino ? or reduce a bit the crit ?

sinful copper
#

You're only 705 with 25k crit and 25k haste? How? That sounds like a lot of stats but I don't remember mine

sinful copper
#

U crafted ring and neck over weapon? You're wild

gray bane
#

I did yeah, idk, was hoping to get one from raid :p

#

but otherwise I can craft one tomorrow, so all good ^^

bleak scaffold
#

At least you did your shield 🙂

sinful copper
#

So excited for vault!

gray bane
#

yeah main reason I did neck/ring is cause they were 675

bleak scaffold
#

I did raid HC full last night, hope to get Ire in my vault tomorrow

bleak scaffold
gray bane
#

that's fair yeah

jagged pier
#

That shoukd be caveatated with 'if u dont myth raid'

gray bane
#

well, tomorrow :p

#

(I don't raid at all, basically + it's my 3rd-4th alt)

#

that said I'm in a pug now trying to kill mr saladbar, it's going about as well as you can imagine :')

bleak scaffold
#

You are doing what difficulty ?

gray bane
#

oh just hc

jagged pier
#

Hc pugging after reset day is a no no

#

End of the week is the worst time

bleak scaffold
#

When it's all you can do 🙂

gray bane
#

I'm in EU

#

and yeah, alt, I only pug

#

so, idk :D

undone beacon
#

Full hero clear an hour before weekly reset lets goooo

gray bane
#

:D

#

I was actually just looking for a soul hunters kill, but good luck finding a group that needs a tank for that haha

solid sun
#

Focus on play

undone beacon
#

Meh half the people in a soul hunters heroic are tanks on dps rolling tank spec

#

Brand and its consequences

#

Lowkey I don’t like brand that much lol

#

But its power cannot be understated

gray bane
#

yeah it'sa boring trinket, but it just does way too much damage

#

I still don't have it on my main :<

#

but I got the lfr version on this warrior alt

undone beacon
#

I have it on my bear, just encourages me to chain pull harder

#

Though on farm bosses I don’t run it anymore

#

Doesn’t stack fast enough to be worth it over like pacemaker or sigil

solid sun
#

I think in a lot of dungeons you can just pull and it doesn’t lose stacks without being too aggressive

gray bane
#

yeah fair, I only do keys basically

#

and if mana isn't a problem (it usually isn't), I tend to chain when dangerous mobs are dead

gray bane
undone beacon
#

Yeah it’s annoying

#

For best results, make your own pug, kick anyone who could even think about rolling on brand, find a tank with brand

solid sun
#

It’s nice when I can’t find a group that needs a tank

fathom oasis
#

In a way...

#

We had a regular group coming into soul hunters, and after a low hp wipe 8 people or so left

#

Queue the raid getting filled with fake DDs

undone beacon
#

fake double d's?

solid sun
#

Damage dealers

fathom oasis
#

At that point i just left the raid, and started a Soul Hunter raid the following day, where I did what Pash recommended

#

Check logs to invite a tank with Brand, and use raider.io addon to verify the double d's weren't tanks in disguise

undone beacon
#

but was the effort worth did, did it drop

bleak scaffold
undone beacon
#

Sigil of the Cosmic Hunt

#

Agi trinket, I use it on bear

bleak scaffold
#

haaaa ok makes sense ^^ I thougth I missed a trinket but it's for bear ^^ the dots didn't connect ... int buff please :x

fathom oasis
bleak scaffold
#

gg

#

Just got ara in myth until now and it's not as good as in S1 compared to available trinket

undone beacon
#

rip all the fools who voted Ara back in for sacbrood and now sac is mid

sinful copper
#

And now ara is hard

bleak scaffold
#

haha that's why i'm avoiding it ...

gray bane
#

I like ara :p

#

but maybe I am a masochist :D

bleak scaffold
#

It's not that hard ... just I don't really like it :x

undone beacon
#

I dont think Ara is that hard as a tank, it just have a few chokepoints that make or break a key

#

Can your group handle the first pull? Can they position for first boss? Stun the stagshells? Kick the webmages on 2nd boss?

#

If so, easy key

bleak scaffold
#

with ifs you'll put Paris in a bottle 😉

jagged pier
#

bringing back expansions where u have the same dungeons each season

#

and the seasonal changes how u do the dungeons

#

none of this voting trash

sweet summit
#

yeah i hate democracy

bleak scaffold
#

You are 100% right Pash and this is just base gaming but seems not base for all :x

jagged pier
#

pash right?

gray bane
#

depending on the key level I just split the first pull cause so many people mess it up :p

bleak scaffold
dusky canopy
solid sun
#

I don’t vote on the dungeons

#

That way I can’t be blamed

jagged pier
#

you also cant complain then

solid sun
#

Sure I can

#

I didn’t do it

jagged pier
#

its like all my friends that didnt vote in the brexit referendum then complained about the out come

sweet summit
#

@ionic fern they're rback

jagged pier
#

<@&257983573498265600>

sweet summit
#

nuke them

gray bane
#

c-c-c-compromised!

dusky canopy
#

Whoever voted for dawnbreaker… stg

fierce mulch
#

ffs

gray bane
#

oh yeah dawnbreaker... why would anyone vote on that shit

dusky canopy
#

Mud you can’t escape!

gray bane
#

so buggy

#

and that first boss, don't even get me started on the lack of movement >:(

undone beacon
#

This makes me so sad because like, that guy has been in this disc since 2024, a discord user since 2017... so obv they got pwned and now they are dead

jagged pier
#

dont click links ppl

fierce mulch
#

hey guys dont click sketchy links on discord

undone beacon
#

i am sketchy link on discord plz click me uwu

solid sun
#

Did that spam even have a link

#

All I saw were pics

sweet summit
#

click this 👖 🫲

stone moat
#

if i'm not offhealing on brew i just dont have any control it feels

stuck basin
#

dawn is the least bad of the voted dungeons

undone beacon
#

they just made that boss so much harder to move

#

I swear she used to teleport to tanks that got too far away

#

and you could snap her ass across the boat

dusky canopy
#

Co worker clicked a link for “free osrs gold” and it linked his account to the hackers steam and gave free access to log in anytime without password or authentication

#

Lmao

undone beacon
#

now she just stands there and stares at you

solid sun
#

Yup

dusky canopy
#

I’m like bruh

#

How in the hell did you fall for that

dusky canopy
#

Nope cleaned him out

undone beacon
#

thats fucked up im calling the cyber cops

dusky canopy
#

He RMT more gold

#

Got that cleaned out too

#

Lmfao

jagged pier
#

my favourite is getting a good job fomr my qorks security team, because i didnt clikc a link

#

i didnt even know i got an email

stone moat
undone beacon
#

That used to be me but then my company started getting mad if you didnt report the fake phising emails

stone moat
#

sucks that the new meta is trash during last boss cuz 3x speedy taunts on the flying rp was so sick

undone beacon
#

like i have so many filters on my inbox it never even got to me

gray bane
dusky canopy
#

Owned

undone beacon
#

So true bestie i love a good philanthropist who gives their wealth away to the less fortunate RMTers

stone moat
#

is the meta to have ppl deathstrike/impending on high keys or does the healer actually just get it all off in time

dusky canopy
#

I will IV very often

#

Personally

undone beacon
#

using your kit is an important part of doing higher keys

undone beacon
dusky canopy
#

My phone bro lmao

#

Capital IF

#

Know what I’m sayin

#

Hollyy

undone beacon
#

strugglebussin

dusky canopy
#

4am start on vault days

dusky canopy
#

Amen

solid sun
#

I’m sipping coffee right now

#

Talking to the pwar homies

heavy sparrow
#

I gotta get into that vietnamese coffee

solid sun
#

While explaining to this builder that his cabinet details don’t fit inside this wall

heavy sparrow
#

busy guy

solid sun
#

Apparently the wall being shorter than the cabinets wasn’t caught by anyone else

undone beacon
#

I've got a ticket that i cant really do anything about so im waiting on my boss to swoop in and save me

stone moat
#

i didnt mean as a tank lol i meant for dps

dusky canopy
#

Alright how good do we think the coffee is that the beans are ate and shit out by the lemur or whatever the hell it is

undone beacon
gray bane
#

catpoocino

stone moat
#

real and true

gray bane
#

(it's shat out by civet cats btw)

dusky canopy
#

Bruh

undone beacon
#

ur shat out by civet cats

#

got em

ionic fern
sweet summit
#

what the

ionic fern
stone moat
#

i got giga flammed while healing a 14 dawn ~a month ago b/c on details it showed zero healing done

#

since it doesnt track the healing being absorbed

solid sun
#

Idk I saw that scene in the most recent season of Reacher. I didn’t know coffee cat poop existed and am not particularly eager to try it

undone beacon
#

guys this is real i saw it happen

solid sun
#

Have you ever seen someone do the little designs in lattes or whatever

#

Pretty neat

heavy sparrow
#

yeah

#

mine ended up turning into a penis head

undone beacon
#

my roomate sophomore year of college could do those when he made our suite lattes

#

was kinda cool

#

though after like once or twice im kinda unimpressed

solid sun
#

lol

#

Yeah the novelty wears off and you just want the beverage

#

I get it

bleak scaffold
#

Why are you putting milk in your coffee ???

sweet summit
#

tasty treat

sweet summit
#

cringe AI poster mods ban this user

fierce mulch
#

ban deez

gray bane
#

ayy there we go

undone beacon
#

nah thats a real cat that loves the smooth silky texture of a a cigarrette

gray bane
#

I imagine those boots are gonna be better than lfr boots from soul hunters haha

undone beacon
#

I want those boots so bad >:(

fathom oasis
#

What's the required rio to qualify as a discord mod?

bleak scaffold
#

Hero boots ?

undone beacon
#

I dont wanna have to use catalyst to finish my transmog set grrrr

gray bane
gray bane
undone beacon
#

I need them on heroic!

#

Then i can finish hero and myth sets in one piece

sweet summit
gray bane
fierce mulch
#

i dont pve xeos

#

im pvp mod

gray bane
#

happy with that weapon though, straight upgrade from the 691 lfr one

undone beacon
#

pvp more like pee pee pee

#

hhahaha

sweet summit
#

hahahah gottem

fierce mulch
fathom oasis
#

pvwhat?

undone beacon
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our guild's big pvp guy just caught a ban

fathom oasis
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Blizzard only supports an 'e' after the 'v'

gray bane
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now I mainly really need a chest, cause mine is still 675 haha

undone beacon
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after being chat banned for two weeks

bleak scaffold
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HOA as a very good chest haste/crit

gray bane
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aye, guess I can farm that one out

fierce mulch
solid sun
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It really is

gray bane
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now that I have heroic saladbar weapon, would you still create the crafted one to replace it?

dusky canopy
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Yeah the whole online needs to be a safe space thing can stop anytime

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Atleast speech wise

sweet summit
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what do you mean by that

dusky canopy
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Talking shit in pvp is part of the fun

bleak scaffold
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it's not a myth weapon so yes ^^ just hold until vault at that point !

gray bane
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and next reset is spark week

solid sun
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Yeah if I talk shit and tilt someone in PvP and win I employed a real PvP strategy that’s also fun

fierce mulch
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flag of ownership tbag and emote the enemy until they whisper you clueless

undone beacon
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:o

gray bane
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and I think since I don't mythic raid I'll probably also start spending some gilded on upgrading some hero pieces to 710

dusky canopy
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Wahhh the other digital character is tbaging my digital character

bleak scaffold
solid sun
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But brew

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That digital character is me

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Don’t you know

undone beacon
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you will respect me because im sexy and cool and im just a little guyyyyyy

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I'm just a girl in a pvpers world okayyyy

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jeez

gray bane
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yeah then I just need to see about a soul hunters kill rn for brand

dusky canopy
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Goblin moment for head smacking balls

undone beacon
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uwu?

dusky canopy
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Sure!

gray bane
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when I woke up today my warrior was 693... now I'm 707, pretty decent day :D

dusky canopy
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🤣

solid sun
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What does uwu stand for

undone beacon
gray bane
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lol wth happened there

bleak scaffold
dusky canopy
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unc with unc

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Know what I’m sayin

undone beacon
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she zap on my giga til I geezle

dusky canopy
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Amen

sweet summit
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emenem

undone beacon
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maybe even owo

solid sun
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When you posted that gif I audibly laughed

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Had to steal it

dusky canopy
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Do you have the Bladestorm into gally center gif?

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Think that’s a happy giff

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@sharp gale

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Sir gif pls

undone beacon
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I don't have that one but I'd like to add it to the collection

dusky canopy
fierce mulch
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pve ui scares me

undone beacon
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I wish discord let me categorize my gifs, I need the wow ones all grouped up

undone beacon
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GOTTEM

dusky canopy