you dont see that there
#protection
lusty grotto
lime spruce
well that too
I figured that was known
the big thing w/ the trinket is just knowing how to use it since it doesn't explain itself well
lime spruce
fair
high latch
If you are doing at least all 12s you should know that the Turbo Boost vendor is probably coming in 4-5 weeks. Then you can buy a myth Tome.
lime spruce
@crystal gale listen to Nim and read how the trinket works lol it's not intuitive
lusty grotto
If you are doing at least all 12s you should know that the Turbo Boost vendor is...
its better to save the dinar
you only have 3
you have the choice available
right now
lime spruce
What is Turbo Boost, this is my firs serious season
high latch
To be clear: Tome is really good, but it will be available for purchase kinda soon.
undone beacon
Equip a codex and a tome and then you can max your reading comprehension
undone beacon
To be clear: Tome *is really good*, but it will be available for purchase kinda ...
Okay people keep saying this but is there a confirmed date
Or are people talking out their ass
lime spruce
you have the choice available
But dude, if I could take a mystery box or $1k I'm taking the box, it could have anything in it, like a thousand dollars
lusty grotto
unless they specifically said that dinars wont cap at 3... just because dinars will come around doesnt mean you should not pick an option that wills ave you one
high latch
its better to save the dinar
Maybe. Depends on what they wanna buy. And what difficulty they are doing in the raid.
lime spruce
Equip a codex and a tome and then you can max your reading comprehension
this is war chat I didn't come here to REED
high latch
Okay people keep saying this but is there a confirmed date
Yes. Oct 7th. https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-2-5-releases-october-7th-legion-remix-release-date-378543
Then vendor comes "shortly after"
blazing shuttle
People can get up to solo +10... it's INSANE.
crystal gale
at least is worth take the tome and try to understand how to use it
solid sun
I need somebody to give me a tl;dr on what’s diff about this remix
lusty grotto
at least is worth take the tome and try to understand how to use it
yes take it
high latch
at least is worth take the tome and try to understand how to use it
Yes. You'll be happy with either choice.
lusty grotto
read what i linked you, clicky here: #protection message
crystal gale
ty all guys and sorry for interrupt your chat
lusty grotto
undone beacon
The point of this chat is to ask questions, the rest of us just shitpost
paper crypt
Survival hunter should be S. It can blast every single pack because its main damage, wildfire bomb, has its cooldown reduced over time. Can probably fit 2-3 in every pack on a 10. In fact, I'm not sure that there's anything better for consistent thoroughput. Maybe fury or outlaw, assuming anyone still plays outlaw?
plush tendon
Survival hunter should be S. It can blast every single pack because its main dam...
I gave it A tier
you could just play BM
paper crypt
I know, I'm saying it deserves to be higher
paper crypt
Unfortunately it can be held back by back grouping from the tank. But if tank tightly groups I think it's the best AoE M+ spec just off consistency
solid sun
Melee is better
paper crypt
Surv also melee, when it could be range
Frost is melee and it's only up there because it's meta
lusty grotto
MM has funnel
plush tendon
Frost is melee and it's only up there because it's meta
Grip
solid sun
Those of us who play melee are quite cultured
lusty grotto
you cant beat funnel
plush tendon
tell me you dont want grip even for weeklies
paper crypt
Unholy was D tier and it has grip
plush tendon
Unholy is B
paper crypt
MM has funnel
Survival literally uses several funnels (cones) lmao
plush tendon
it suffers from 'you could just be frost'
solid sun
You can grip dee…. Nevermind
lusty grotto
uhhhh
solid sun
That was too much
paper crypt
Oh lol I confused it for affliction my bad
plush tendon
Frost is melee and it's only up there because it's meta
I was fair; i put Arcane in D
even if its broken in Meta comps
I dont want to see that shit in my weeklies
lusty grotto
i keep missing the fact that it was for weeklies
lusty grotto
yeah honestly for weeklies i dont care
paper crypt
lusty grotto
brother what the fuck
paper crypt
Survival has many funnels
shrewd grove
That's.... not what funnel means....
plush tendon
Surv is not S tier
paper crypt
It has more funnels than any other spec
lusty grotto
thats a good troll
paper crypt
So that's another reason to put it in S
plush tendon
for the literal dozen people who play it
lusty grotto
A+ cause of the paint job
paper crypt
There are dozens of us. DOZENS!
deep iris
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
lusty grotto
ill allow it
deep iris
AFTER 62 RUNS, SOMEONE GAVE ME THEIR TOME THAT DROPPED
shrewd grove
paper crypt
Congrats
lusty grotto
shrewd grove
Check out my funnel
lusty grotto
finally grats Ghaji
deep iris
I'm fucking PUMPED
shrewd grove
AFTER 62 RUNS, SOMEONE GAVE ME THEIR TOME THAT DROPPED
📈
solid sun
Might even be higher
solid sun
I helped
lusty grotto
why didnt i think of that
dusky canopy
MICECREAM
Ahahahaha
Nim bro
How you let the rhino guy think of this
You are the mouser
lusty grotto
young oasis
AFTER 62 RUNS, SOMEONE GAVE ME THEIR TOME THAT DROPPED
I always ask all who can get it to go tank spec 😀
deep iris
I have been ,yeah
hybrid breach
i think i have the wrong thunderclap in my bars
people constantly overaggro me through multiple tclaps in 15-16s
deep iris
I'll sometimes have that problem on super large pulls when a frost DK pops all CDs before they're gathered
orchid narwhal
@shrewd grove
lusty grotto
people constantly overaggro me through multiple tclaps in 15-16s
whats your weapon ilvl
is it crafted or myth ?
blazing shuttle
<:critcake:984549832511344640>
Hey, you can buy tome with coins soon.
Never fear!
lusty grotto
no
deep iris
Always fear
lusty grotto
yes
solid sun
Heck yeah! Does that mean you get drops now?
deep iris
Do we have a list of what's going to be available yet for the dinars or whatever?
lusty grotto
i could yes
orchid narwhal
ur raid didnt give u drops as a trial?
lusty grotto
the assumption is literally the same as last season
deep iris
Ah, I didn't play last season too much, just the last 1.5 weeks.
lusty grotto
myth track weapons/trinkets from dungeons, and a bunch of loot from raid
deep iris
Ah okay!
blazing shuttle
Time to buy mythic boosts just for Soul Hunters (It won't happen)
solid sun
I’m holding out hope I get invited to a mythic clear because of my charming personality
lusty grotto
neon elk
If they ever hesitate to invite you just offer them some mice cream , could work
dusky canopy
🤣
lusty grotto
will 100% work
solid sun
I’ll keep that in mind
You know one time when I was trying to get tome to drop in Priory last season, I invited a paladin and asked if they would mind going prot spec to see if it would drop for them and then they could do me a big solid
We had a great time in the dungeon. Cleared it with no problem
Loot the chest
And the paladin scored the trinket
I was so excited you know
Finally
I could learn to read with this tome
Paladin says, “I didn’t think it would drop but now that it did I’m just gonna keep it for my tank set”
Hopes dashed. I had to bust out a blue bunny chocolate swirl ice cream cone to fix the vibes
lusty grotto
see your mistake is that it was blue bunny ice cream and not mice cream
solid sun
I bet if I had offered them mice cream they’d have given me that book
lusty grotto
frosty mango
It’s huge
lusty grotto
would have to see logs i guess
frosty mango
Tanking without brand is like eating a mice cream sundae with no whipped cream or cherry
It’s just not the same
One may argue it’s not a Sunday at all
Could be a Monday
My brain is leaking from my nose, work is killing me, send help
neon elk
Yo guys, found some pic of nim from his early days about to enjoy his mice cream
dusky canopy
Adventure quest mouser
solid sun
I typically don’t play battle royale either
Maybe if some of the friends really get the hankering for it but otherwise nah
round pendant
going left in ara kara is just pug suicide I feel like
even if it's 1 less bloodguard
people just cannot fuckin handle the patrol
paladin just standing at max melee range behind the pack showing his ass to the patrol
lusty grotto
look at these rolls
shearchip is brimming
lost the tie
xD
got the ring though, but whatever, alt is alt
wish i had that trinket on Nim for fury 🙁
if only those rolls werent 1 in a million
guess im fucked for the rest of the season 
neon elk
You are 1 in a million
lusty grotto
fathom chasm
what difference between coloss and mountain thane
deep iris
One smashes a lot, the other claps a lot.
fathom chasm
i was colossus last 3 weeks i wonder why all changes to mt
fathom chasm
what exactly in the set makes tmt so good? i used olossus it was good in dmg
lusty grotto
extreme damage
easily 20% to 30% more damage as thane
than colossus
just because of the tier set
lusty grotto
i miss it too
but bleeds are whatever
should have made the tier set buff demolish or revenge
plush tendon
might try it in a Dawnbreaker
lofty warren
I don't want to waist more time, effort and gold recrafting stuff turbo boost should auto boost crafted pieces
rancid basalt
Can someone give my a pug route for a 14 priory, pugs are baby raging my route too hard
XD
plush tendon
you go left or right
rancid basalt
Right
lofty warren
I want to try a key as Col
Remember with col you have to basically cc yourself to cast demolish yuck
coarse bay
Can someone give my a pug route for a 14 priory, pugs are baby raging my route t...
Post your route here please 🙏
lofty warren
The dogs after mini boss 1 are gonna jump on someone and kill them imo
lusty grotto
down the stairs
rancid basalt
"No one does this route im 3.4rating"
jagged pier
thats over tho ui dont need those 3 mobs in 14
lusty grotto
sounds trust worthy
rancid basalt
So curious what everyone else does
plush tendon
there is literally a video of Kira's group doing this route
jagged pier
u only need the pat
rancid basalt
its literally 100.14%
undone beacon
"No one does this route im 3.4rating"
Tell them to tank next time :))
coarse bay
Is there a specific part they complained about?
lusty grotto
why are we paying attention to what some rager says
lofty warren
How do ppl do the dogs at the top of the stairs without someone dying?
rancid basalt
So it must be a me thing
coarse bay
Not for pugs
lusty grotto
they are bad
plush tendon
you know... if you are in melee... they dont jump
lusty grotto
literally dodgeable
jagged pier
its literally 100.14%
nah theres something off with mdt, it doesnt show true % same in ara
lusty grotto
just move
jagged pier
has mobs at less %
lusty grotto
no damage comes out from them
lofty warren
They jumped my havoc in my +13 and killed he didnt pusg blur and then he died. After death he refused to do anything and kept spamming abandon group until he just left group
coarse bay
I grab the footsoldiers, the caster pack after, and the knight pat in one
lusty grotto
2 seasons of the same dungeon and people dont know how to dodge lynxes or shanemayl???
rancid basalt
nah theres something off with mdt, it doesnt show true % same in ara
Thats using threechest.io and its 100.14%
lusty grotto
then those people dont belong in that level of keys
rancid basalt
Yeah idk, like i said i wasnt sure if it was a me issue or not
But everytime i pug priory they all just stack and die on pull 2
lofty warren
What is the correct thing to do to dodge dogs?
lofty warren
Ohh, its like a cast and then they jump to that location?
lusty grotto
theres no cast
they have to pay attention to nameplate cds
and then just move
if they dont land the jumps, they dont put the bleeds on anyone
thats it
rancid basalt
3 of them premade got hit by shaynmails lunge
jagged pier
Thats using threechest.io and its 100.14%
oh trash route is missing a pack at the start
lofty warren
Ohhh. Well I'll still avoid i have no faith in the pugs
lusty grotto
it never goes on tank...
do you even play this game pepega
you can at best bait shanemayl
but not dogs
rancid basalt
So, from everyones feedback, this is NOT a me issue, correct? everyone dying to bleeds and leaps#
plush tendon
so I actually found the guy
lofty warren
I know it doesn't hit me.. it is my group that doesn't do it right and ends up dying
lusty grotto
thats fine
rancid basalt
Okay
lusty grotto
but thats a 16 route
lusty grotto
shyirasky is doing a 14
lusty grotto
even i wouldnt do that fucking route holy shit
coarse bay
Why does pull 5 look so bad
rancid basalt
I think ill just keep doing my route then, and hope that eventually i get a group that just live XD
lofty warren
Speaking of not knowing optimal thing on priory, what is the correct pulling tactic in the room before boss 2?
Lots of times the paladin puts consecration down and then caster goes into consecration and spam casts
plush tendon
at the same time, Kira did that pack in a 18 two weeks ago
though, in his most recent 19 nine days ago, they do skip it
rancid basalt
Yeah, so F that shaman i had XD
plush tendon
yea, hes being elitist for no good reason
what you did was perfectly fine
maybe not optimal anymore, but its not insane
rancid basalt
Thanking you all, so very much
lofty warren
What about how to pull mobs before boss 2 in priory?
plush tendon
they have the hunter pull things upstairs and kira pulls a random out of the way pack downstairs
like, not something id make a pug do
coarse bay
What about how to pull mobs before boss 2 in priory?
Go in and right, if a caster is in conc and is casting, thats a ranged kick problem or disrupting shout
lofty warren
I miss the bfa/legion days where you could pull the whole room, stand on a secret spot, have all the mobs snap to you use, blow all cds and be done with them
warm plinth
Snapping was cool but I'm glad it didn't stay a thing
It was waaaaaay too prevalent in bfa
lusty grotto
i loved snapping
idle copper
What class is a ranged tank? Someone asking in m+ discord for ranged tank only
lusty grotto
there is none
lofty warren
It is illegal to be ranged tank
fathom oasis
Snapping was cool but I'm glad it didn't stay a thing
is there any snapping tech this season, aside from the one in streets after the 2 doggies?
plush tendon
Yeah, so F that shaman i had XD
this appears to be the new cool route
using some LoS tech on the knight in pull 5
fathom oasis
damn, i hate skipping patrols
coarse bay
is there any snapping tech this season, aside from the one in streets after the ...
Crocs in FG but sometimes you lose a dps to it
warm plinth
is there any snapping tech this season, aside from the one in streets after the ...
Didn't even know there was a snapping tech in streets. But no, not that I'm aware
fathom oasis
Didn't even know there was a snapping tech in streets. But no, not that I'm awa...
you snap the triceratops that charges, and he keeps casting charge without actually doing anything
plush tendon
I tried pull 13 in a 12
lusty grotto
you snap the triceratops that charges, and he keeps casting charge without actua...
you dont need to snap it
plush tendon
just tagged the peacekeepers and booked it to the boss room XD
coarse bay
you snap the triceratops that charges, and he keeps casting charge without actua...
I wasnt even thinking of that as a snap tbh but it is lol
lusty grotto
you just have ranged stand in the railing or on the back cart
lusty grotto
thats not snapping
fathom oasis
you just have ranged stand in the railing or on the back cart
i rather something i can do than rely on external ppl tbh
coarse bay
They teleport i think
plush tendon
was cool
lusty grotto
i rather something i can do than rely on external ppl tbh
its a team game
fathom oasis
i even have diff routes if i run a dungeon with 1-2 friends vs full on pugs
warm plinth
Oh I've seen people avoid it on the boxes or whatever but didn't think that was even worth doing
plush tendon
tank stands on boxes, cats still leap but charge dude doesnot complete charge
but the cats instantly snap back up
good for aoe
coarse bay
Oh I've seen people avoid it on the boxes or whatever but didn't think that was ...
The charge can kill a dps with no defensives
lofty warren
Which mobs snap?
fathom oasis
naw, the box snap is awesome for the cats and charge dude
it's very neat, though i'm an expert at getting stuck while climbing said box and getting rammed from behind meanwhile xd
plush tendon
theres a smaller box you gotta jump on first
just practice it a little bit in a 0 or something
fathom oasis
yeah, i get stuck in between the two jumps
fathom oasis
i'm actually gonna go to tazavesh (in kharesh) rn and practice it
plush tendon
hell yea
warm plinth
The charge can kill a dps with no defensives
So...use a defensive? XD not like you don't know who he's casting it on
coarse bay
Im not saying it isn’t preventable, but getting on the cart saves the need
No reason not to do it while it works
fathom oasis
i like it because you can grab rhino, start menagerie RP, aggro kitties and get on the box all in one swift motion
feels smooth
in higher keys that pull is probably too small though
boreal heath
tank stands on boxes, cats still leap but charge dude doesnot complete charge
I've had the dino charge off the box and then snap back up the box after it hit someone
plush tendon
I've had the dino charge off the box and then snap back up the box after it hit ...
cant say I have
its worked for me
boreal heath
Is it a DPS positioning issue?
coarse bay
Usually it does a charge then snaps up, but once up ive never seen it charge off
fathom oasis
when did it happen to you?
plush tendon
the only way to get more time in Streets is to do stuff like this
which, in a pug, sounds like a terrible idea
lofty warren
Ara Kara go left > right. Go right so aids
coarse bay
Pull 3 has a lot of poison
lusty grotto
right is free
no its not
coarse bay
Always left
round pendant
you shouldnt be going right at all
every left ends in disaster
plush tendon
what would Beyonace say?
round pendant
people not ccing stags, people buttpulling
boreal heath
Usually it does a charge then snaps up, but once up ive never seen it charge off
Is it supposed to just recast the charge over and over again, or does it actually charge someone but do no dmg
lofty warren
Going right means you need to fight the big fat bugs with the guys that turns into fat bug with the poison casters. No ty
lusty grotto
doesnt matter yam
you have more bloodguards on right side
thats why you dont go right
round pendant
same bloodguards when they don't stun the stag
plush tendon
you have to chain on the left side
coarse bay
Is it supposed to just recast the charge over and over again, or does it actuall...
It casts but doesnt move
plush tendon
only have 1 maybe 2 casters at any give time
lusty grotto
same bloodguards when they don't stun the stag
those arent worth count
first of all
and second of all
if they arent stopping alarms
that key is gonna die anyway
plush tendon
prob not
plush tendon
but we promote good gameplay here
lofty warren
You can spec into warrior fear thay is another stop to the little guys thay turn big
plush tendon
round pendant
me who's never succeeded going left
boreal heath
people not ccing stags, people buttpulling
Buttpulling might just be you're not pulling big enough, usually not much you can butt pull there
lusty grotto
me who's never succeeded going left
you really should
i havent gone right since mid s1
fathom oasis
same
lusty grotto
and also pepega actually has some reasonable advice
lofty warren
Left just go slower better than wiping on right when all the patrols come at the same time and wipe you
plush tendon
this is how I do Ara Kara now
coarse bay
Besides not going right, i wouldnt grab the poison pat in pull 3 and for pull 15 id go left instead of mid
lusty grotto
it helps especially without coordinated stops
lusty grotto
this is how I do Ara Kara now
thats very similar to my route
plush tendon
but its fine to split pull 1 in two
if you dont have someone in comms to CC one of the casters
lofty warren
this is how I do Ara Kara now
Pull 7 and 8 omg
fathom oasis
this is how I do Ara Kara now
damn, 7 is spicy af
fathom oasis
ok ok
plush tendon
kill staghorn, kill caster, move
fathom oasis
was gonna ask how you assign kicks
plush tendon
I just cant show that in MDT easy
lusty grotto
also theres a lust there which you can use on 6 or 7
lusty grotto
yup
lofty warren
You invisible pot skip the fat bug before boss 3?
plush tendon
if you use it on the bloodguard when he does swarm, it stops swarm
and he shouldnt cast again
fathom oasis
i hate the 50% dr aura with a passion
lusty grotto
yeah but you should run it as you would without one, usually tailors just announce it
boreal heath
What's worth dropping for intervene?
fathom oasis
You invisible pot skip the fat bug before boss 3?
you can leap from door
and have boss pull people
lofty warren
Ohhh didn't know that
lusty grotto
just be careful, taunt pull boss and face it away
or have the team stand in the usual priest skip spot
hardy snow
finally, only 4 kills 
lusty grotto
nice gz Jawor!
lofty warren
Where are you getting the extra count? Going both left and right in the last boss room?
plush tendon
plush tendon
Where are you getting the extra count? Going both left and right in the last bos...
yea
fathom oasis
finally, only 4 kills <:erga:1225875048590737460>
plush tendon
I do the last bit of % after last boss
lofty warren
just be careful, taunt pull boss and face it away
Why do this?
dawn herald
hey guys, does it matter which weapon (axe/sword/mace) I craft or not really?
boreal heath
Is it not worth pulling that pack to have boss funnel?
plush tendon
hey guys, does it matter which weapon (axe/sword/mace) I craft or not really?
axe or mace if dwarf, sword or mace if human, axe if orc
lofty warren
Are dwarf has bonus either it
plush tendon
because RP matters
lusty grotto
it doesnt matter
lofty warren
Axe
fathom oasis
hey guys, does it matter which weapon (axe/sword/mace) I craft or not really?
if you have a racial, yeah
lofty warren
Back in my day axe dwarf bonus existed
fathom oasis
otherwise no
lusty grotto
Back in my day axe dwarf bonus existed
youre not as old as us
coarse bay
Is it not worth pulling that pack to have boss funnel?
What pack? The flying one that randomly dives people?
lusty grotto
and thats vanilla which was 19 years ago
boreal heath
What pack? The flying one that randomly dives people?
The pack before second
That aug was skipping
lofty warren
The bonus existed in wrath when I first started
plush tendon
The pack before second
this is Ara kara?
coarse bay
Oh you can have them focus down blood guard and pull the small guys into boss after it dies, but do you have ethical dps to leave the funnel alive?
plush tendon
if its Ara Kara.... its because bloodguards suck
coarse bay
Timewise probs not worth
plush tendon
me and all my homies hate bloodguards
now those flying boys in the 3rd boss room... I havnt thought about pulling them onto boss
plush tendon
dangerously fun
boreal heath
I've been pulling the poison casters into boss
plush tendon
cant feel bad for Resto Shamans
lofty warren
Can you spell reflect last boss ara Kara circle and live it in a +14?
lusty grotto
poison casters are fine
plush tendon
they have more armor then my BDK
lusty grotto
but the flying fucks, ehhhh
plush tendon
Can you spell reflect last boss ara Kara circle and live it in a +14?
you dont reflect his circle
but you can leap with 1 second left on the cat
boreal heath
Oh you can have them focus down blood guard and pull the small guys into boss a...
Yeah wasn't sure if it was worth if you had havoc+arcane
lofty warren
If you have a good healer that dispels the febuff that slpws you its not that bad
I tried leaping and didn't it right he sacked me back
Sucked
boreal heath
The suck doesn't kill on a 14
plush tendon
you do get a damage done debuff though
boreal heath
Yeah
plush tendon
id rather die then let that happen
lusty grotto
lol
boreal heath
Your damage goes down the drain if you fuck it up
lofty warren
Is it a permanent debuff?
lusty grotto
i love wow incorporating xiv stuff
boreal heath
but you can leap with 1 second left on the cat
Isn't the timing like .5s? To avoid the second suck
lusty grotto
especially when it makes sense
coarse bay
Yeah wasn't sure if it was worth if you had havoc+arcane
They can kill the blood guard pretty well and whatnot, but those little guys wont last long
boreal heath
i love wow incorporating xiv stuff
Seeing the last boss of ecodome I think they're moving to that direction
plush tendon
Isn't the timing like .5s? To avoid the second suck
something like that
idk, I just do it
lofty warren
I like every boss in ed except last boss where I need to collect myself I just want to hit the boss not collect
toxic gyro
Isn't the timing like .5s? To avoid the second suck
As long as you leap sub 1sec ure good
high latch
Isn't the timing like .5s? To avoid the second suck
Yeah it's about .5sec. Have to wait for the last suck to go off, then it's safe to leap.
boreal heath
hope they dont go overboard
What could go wrong if they do
lusty grotto
some wow players can get jaded
but yeah i suppose going overboard isnt a bad thing so long as the players are getting used to it
plush tendon
Midnight we are gonna see a lot of new things
lusty grotto
false, my dad John Blizzard says Augusto lies
plush tendon
they are moving in the direction of no weakauras
boreal heath
If they're going down the no combat add-on route I think they'll have to basically go overboard
plush tendon
new CD manager coming in the .5 should be a tell tale sign about what we are getting
lusty grotto
i mean tbh id much rather they had minus dps debuffs vs one-shots
boreal heath
CD manager still has a long way to go before it can replace wa
lusty grotto
and make it about dps again
plush tendon
its getting better
boreal heath
Yeah for sure, it's already in a semi usable place
lusty grotto
adoption is a big part of it
plush tendon
but there are things like big wigs little wigs that need to just go
or be in the base game
boreal heath
That's coming in midnight
lusty grotto
yup
boreal heath
They've already previewed their in-game boss mods
plush tendon
Yeah for sure, it's already in a semi usable place
for a totally new player, the current CD manager is awesome
warm plinth
Isn't the cd manager only for your own cooldowns?
lusty grotto
they are certainly moving in the right direction
boreal heath
Isn't the cd manager only for your own cooldowns?
For now yeah
plush tendon
Isn't the cd manager only for your own cooldowns?
yea
we are gonna need a built in Omni CC
for party CDs and cc/interrupt tracking
but the more stuff in the base game, the happier I will be
coarse bay
Isn't the timing like .5s? To avoid the second suck
Ahem, approximately 0.8 seconds 🤓
warm plinth
I thought being able to see other people's stuff is one of the things they didn't want
plush tendon
is it?
cause if thats the case.... ima scream
makes shot calling in M+ so hard
or pugging
boreal heath
for party CDs and cc/interrupt tracking
I fear they won't be including this
plush tendon
I fear they won't be including this
lusty grotto
its not meant to remedy shotcalling
its for the average player
so if shotcalling gets harder, thats an acceptable loss, unfortunately
plush tendon
average players should have access to all these tools
warm plinth
They're trying to simplify the game, not let us do the current game without external addons
lusty grotto
i understand their perspective
plush tendon
I mean, if we dont need to CC lock packs cause casters dont cast every second
thats a win
boreal heath
so if shotcalling gets harder, thats an acceptable loss, unfortunately
But it's not a minor increase in difficulty though
plush tendon
Ill gladly give up Omni CC for that
lusty grotto
absolutely
boreal heath
If it remains the same you're gonna have to basically start remembering who used what when and how long the cd is
plush tendon
if we can just mark the casters and assign a person to each
like we are playing man coverage
ideal
lusty grotto
yeah im guessing they will lean into that approach Augusto
boreal heath
I think it's gonna end up being a change for PvP that ends up harming pve
warm plinth
Well you can do that now. Just have to play 5 mobs at a time 🙂
boreal heath
Because they're wanting to kneecap omnicd and kick trackers for PvP specifically
plush tendon
Well you can do that now. Just have to play 5 mobs at a time 🙂
eh, there are still plenty of mobs where you need a 3 kick rotation to cover
like in Gambit
boreal heath
But we all know it's gonna bleed into pve
lusty grotto
Because they're wanting to kneecap omnicd and kick trackers for PvP specifically
thats not it
its not because of pvp
oblique garnet
eh, there are still plenty of mobs where you need a 3 kick rotation to cover
Just never kick anything and take it like a man
plush tendon
Just never kick anything and take it like a man
I would!
boreal heath
Is it not? I thought I saw Ion say something about cd tracking in PvP
plush tendon
if they didnt target my friends
warm plinth
I was being facetious. I'm making the point that if they go too far in that direction, the game will get very boring, especially in keys.
oblique garnet
Not a you problem
boreal heath
but my friends are frail non tanks
Replace them with tanks
plush tendon
like a Shonen Anime hero
oblique garnet
Youre there to do damage and kill mobs
warm plinth
Simplicity is good because it makes the game more appealing to new people. It's not great if we end up with classic wow 12.0
boreal heath
Simplicity is good because it makes the game more appealing to new people. It's...
There's an audience for that
plush tendon
japanese cartoons mentioned
🤓
boreal heath
The rest of us will have to play legion classic
oblique garnet
Pay money to suffer
lusty grotto
2% of the pop gets mad because it becomes more simple? acceptable loss
lusty grotto
every single fucking time yam posts his warrior i get hungry
i havent had butter chicken in so long
oblique garnet
Butter chicken is overrated
lusty grotto
maybe
round pendant
Butter chicken is overrated
plush tendon
its very good
lusty grotto
but not if you havent had it for well over a year
plush tendon
but I dont have Indian food that often
warm plinth
Yeah realistically, at 3k you're in the top 9ish% of players right now (on NA anyway)
And by 3250 you're top 1%
oblique garnet
<:greenbear:729127145963651092>
Spicy tandoori is much better
lusty grotto
Spicy tandoori is much better
broooooooooo
round pendant
Dude
round pendant
is it the arcane mage that was just deleting chunks of the bloodguards' health bars?
lusty grotto
spicy tandoori IS much better
plush tendon
thats what good arcane mages do
round pendant
it literally lost like
plush tendon
they pick a target, and then that target goes bye
round pendant
5% hp in chunks
oblique garnet
spicy tandoori IS much better
I need to visit india to taste the real one
Our indian place is from wish
Sushi and indian and they cant do either
undone beacon
You have a place that does sushi AND Indian??
boreal heath
they pick a target, and then that target goes bye
Does it count if that target is the small guy next to the bloodguard
undone beacon
Are they like a fusion restaurant or just being bad at both separately
lusty grotto
Are they like a fusion restaurant or just being bad at both separately
the latter
theres a couple of chinese places that do that around here
chinese food + sushi
dusky canopy
Bro speaking of that
lusty grotto
wouldn't surprise me at least is what im saying
dusky canopy
Had spicy crab and salmon sushi last weekend
oblique garnet
Are they like a fusion restaurant or just being bad at both separately
They are 2 separate menus
dusky canopy
Pretty good
undone beacon
I’ve seen places that do Chinese and Sushi but Indian and Sushi under the same roof is crazy work
lusty grotto
i mean sushi is japanese
so chinese + japanese is crazy in its own right
given their history
oblique garnet
Ordered ramen bowl once got an instant noodles and tray of ingredients that were not in the bowl
lusty grotto
ahahaha
undone beacon
pffft bro
oblique garnet
Ikea ramen bowl
lusty grotto
late are you ordering from money launderers or something
undone beacon
Insanity
dusky canopy
LOL build it yourself type meal
undone beacon
Yeah this place isn’t real like it’s a mob front
lusty grotto
lol for sure
undone beacon
We have a Mexican/Korean fusion restaurant near here that’s I think is pretty good but
They have a gimmick at least
If you had said it was an Indian/japanese fusion I’d be all over that
Butter chicken sushi? I’m at least intrigued
solid sun
Maybe it’s a Romeo and Juliet dynamic and it’s a Chinese/Japanese family owned sanctuary restaurant
Just good vibes and good build it yourself food
oblique garnet
late are you ordering from money launderers or something
Uhh 👀
Perhaps
Its a border towns sooo
Border town between 2 countries
lusty grotto
oblique garnet
<:keks:936231610850897992>
That place isnt money laundering place tho just probably human trafficking
Its the kebab places that are laundering money
paper crypt
Is 12.54% too much leech?
jagged pier
not enough
paper crypt
Understandable, how much do I need?
jagged pier
as much as u can get
paper crypt
I don't know how to calculate that considering there isn't any site that lets me do that to gear
paper crypt
I can swap out my myth astral antenna for a champ delve trinket with 600 leech on it 🙏🏼
paper crypt
Alternatively do try this at home because it's just a game
lusty grotto
sure
and make sure you post your findings in Meme Discord
Memehold is a good one
or in Reddit
jade tartan
do you guys suggest to pick the build most tanks play on wcl on soulhunter mythic?
or is there a more save option for prog
lusty grotto
should be fine yea
you dont need shield specialization for hunters
if thats what youre asking
jade tartan
no last stand etc
tribal wharf
i asked ai art to create "memehold" the land of memes
lusty grotto
good pic
jade tartan
mmm TL is worth and you need LS for it
what is TL
lusty grotto
thunderlord
lusty grotto
just pick whatever Sense is playing in it
and you should be good
if hes not playing TL, then go for it
i suppose the logic is that youre only at best hitting 3 targets so TL might lose some value
lusty grotto
yeah that seems fine
paper crypt
Noone really knows his stuff
jade tartan
thank you
lusty grotto
execute talents shine cause of the cleave
so aside from what i mentioned
execute is probably the way to go all around
3 targets most of the time
so giga cleave fight
makes sense
like his name 
if you need the defensive option, just talent TL and/or magic defensive talents, but im sure you will be fine
the build has BSV so that should be enough
@dusky canopy what did you craft this week
lusty grotto
dusky canopy
Was going to wait on reclear but got shafted on re clear being rescheduled so when I get home I’ll play with sims for the gear I have
lusty grotto
im not sure if its worth crafting for fury after weap/bracers
heavily thinking about crafting into prot
but belt/ring make me sad, especially this fucking jastor
dusky canopy
Pretty much only jewelry/belt or helm if you don’t want to spend giga gold on boe
Also helm long term is a waste
lusty grotto
i have myth tier helm
dusky canopy
But long term does it matter? Lol you’ll have one by then
Yeah then you wouldn’t do that ofc
lusty grotto
i know its the off piece for fury but
it just landed on a vault and there was nothing better
dusky canopy
Yeah that’s totally fine always play for max dps in the current week
boreal heath
*dont try this at home*
Tried it and lost DPS explain pls
lusty grotto
im picking boots from the vault
dusky canopy
Can’t rely on total rng vault
lusty grotto
its like a 15k difference between 6/6 myth chest and 6/6 hero boots
in favor of them booties
dusky canopy
Yeah boots are big even hero track
Unlikely you kill soul hunters soon?
Probably will be able to dinar them
dusky canopy
Also likely to get chest off plex or frac
lusty grotto
dusky canopy
Can’t go wrong really whatever sims best
dusky canopy
Wish I knew if boots were buyable
If boots are buyable and you know you’re getting the kill
Might be chest angle
Incase rng says fu
Considering it’s only 12k difference and one item is myth track and one is hero
lusty grotto
actually i havent done the 4 keys on my warrior so i might just do that before picking just in case
lusty grotto
did all the shit in my DH first
fathom oasis
Isn't the timing like .5s? To avoid the second suck
she does a regular constant suck at the beginning, and a secondary very strong suck at ~1s. As long as you jump after the 1s mark you are good
how much* is a Soul Hunter boost gonna go by
lusty grotto
might be competitive since the only wall is araz
and araz isnt really a massive wall
fathom oasis
boost is surely going to help push too, right?
frosty mango
yes let me heal you though that one shot, i am very sorry I failed you
lusty grotto
should have gif'd it
frosty mango
of course its a dh from quel thalas
blazing ridge
timed my first 16 Echo in Raid Cleave specc, felt so shit no stun no aoe silence, team carried hard ez xd
never had so much execute dmg though xdd
past laurel
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pJTGRCRFYa7hYxfL1u396Y that look right? to push 13-18s?
past laurel
well, the trinket, will be brand, but the craftin belt do i craft, and do i recraft wrist and belt to Vers? over crit? since im going higher then 12s?
lusty grotto
well, the trinket, will be brand, but the craftin belt do i craft, and do i recr...
whatever sims best which is that
lusty grotto
you dont really go for versa that way on those embelishments, its very minor
its not gonna make a difference
and you certainly do need crit
if the sim is suggesting it
way too much versa
gems/enchants, idk why you need all this
so of course the sim will suggest crit
lusty grotto
sorry i cant read percents
solid sun
We use ratings
past laurel
And no oil.flask,food.
lusty grotto
you certainly need more crit
your whole 6% versa DR won't do shit
dont focus on it
change those gems
and dont use cursed enchants
oblique garnet
im going to hell for laughing at that
I mean its on the bus station so they have like the perfect cover
solid sun
Late I have a very important question
Did you ever bake a pie after mentioning it in here a month or 2 ago
oblique garnet
I did
lusty grotto
oh?
solid sun
Ooooo what was it
lime spruce
if you guys have +11 keys do you just run them to get back to a 12, drop down and try for the +2 or just queue for other people's +12s
oblique garnet
I made a caramellized apple pie with vanilla bacon ice cream
lime spruce
yeah I know I've just mcfuckin had it w/ qt/rag/az players today being awful so I want to vet my own group I just hate my key
lusty grotto
i dunno, i have no issues with qt/rag/az players
but i do very selecting applying
selective*
lime spruce
what are your criteria that help you
lime spruce
yeah I look for that too but there's such a crazy range rn amongst 2.8-2.99k players and ~710 ilvl
lusty grotto
3.3k+ past season but low current io? i apply
lime spruce
gotcha
lusty grotto
for vault keys: 2.7k+ and have decent raid prog? i apply too
thats kind of what i go by
i dont discriminate qt/rag/az
there are very VERY good players on those servers
warm plinth
I go out of my way to invite rag/qt/azralon etc because if that mentality that people have
fathom oasis
sorry, what's qt/rag/az?
warm plinth
Of*
lusty grotto
the only servers i dont apply to are OCE but only because of ping issues, not because of the players
warm plinth
Latin america/Brazil realms that people shit on for no reason
warm plinth
Yeah haha
warm plinth
Lmao
paper coral
Ive been told warrior is "insane" I havent played since pre-undermine. How much of an awakening am I in for? I asked a buddy what tank I should play and he said "warrior warrior warrior"
lime spruce
Latin america/Brazil realms that people shit on for no reason
Nah it's not no reason
warm plinth
I'm gonna stop you there
fathom oasis
stop, you have violated the law
lime spruce
The server culture is just really poor there, I don't care where they're from IRL
lusty grotto
heavy disagree
paper coral
youre gonna need 4pc
was that to me?
fathom oasis
i see, today's generalization wednesday
warm plinth
Because I will absolutely argue this shit into the ground. It's a harmful bias that has been around for the life of the game. It has no basis in fact.
lusty grotto
i have more issues with illidan and a52 players than any of the 3 South America/Central America servers
WAY MORE ISSUES
its not even close
more pop = more bad actors
so it makes absolute sense
lime spruce
I've had this experience in other games too, langauge barriers create a stronger feeling of anonyminity
it is what it is, I don't want it to be true, my experience has just been really poor w/ that group /shrug
warm plinth
The language barrier literally doesn't even exist with most of them. You just assume it does. Most of them speak perfectly good English. And you out that assumption together with the preconception and the random bad player and it forms bias.
Put*
lime spruce
Well the ones I've run with sure as hell don't type like it 🤣
warm plinth
It's not just you. Like I said, this has been a thing forever
lime spruce
huh, weird
boreal heath
I'm gonna stop you there
I'll show you what a stop is
round pendant
kinda hating how mandatory funnel classes are this season
sharp gale
We have the same issue in EU with Italian servers bashing
You just notice more the nationality of who fucked up if their server name is in a foreign language
boreal heath
How do you guys deal with the healing debuff in dawnbreaker had it stack up to around 70-80% in a dawnbreaker and I'm just sweating. Tried kiting doesn't seem to help drop stacks, spell reflect doesn't last long enough to drop it either
lusty grotto
was that to me?
yea
lusty grotto
How do you guys deal with the healing debuff in dawnbreaker had it stack up to a...
same way you did cinderbrew bleeds
or Darkflame pre-nerf
you stun and stutter step or leap away and reflect to buffer
grim pilot
How do you guys deal with the healing debuff in dawnbreaker had it stack up to a...
If youre low enough it doesnt matter, high enough your team will help you kite
Vortex et cetera
lusty grotto
they are stoppable as opposed to evil pre-nerf snek
can also play spear on that key for shits and giggles
and be like "oh look at em go"
boreal heath
Does spear basically work like vortex?
jagged grove
Yo, getting a bit more comfortable with prot and wondering if I should be tracking anything else other than my shield block/ignore pain, are there any other passive buffs you all consider important to keep in mind?
lusty grotto
spear pulls forever while its up
paper crypt
5.4m on the last wipe. 3.64m on the kill. 😢
lusty grotto
Yo, getting a bit more comfortable with prot and wondering if I should be tracki...
drop IP tracking and track Outburst/Seeing Red
boreal heath
spear pulls forever while its up
Doesn't have DR?
lusty grotto
have you never used it?
misty salmon
is there a wa for execute for prot ?
boreal heath
Nope, assumed the suck would dr with other sucks if I played with a boomy or something
clever ore
Hey I have a question. I aimed for full Haste crit on my gear and ended up with 28k haste.
Question: Can we have too much haste? Or is it as much ahst and crit as we can?
Since I saw on archon they have 10k vers aswell? Is that recommended or am I totaly fine with full ahste crit?
lusty grotto
28k haste is good, you just dont have to go further into it
clever ore
unbuffed btw
lusty grotto
can probably reduce it by 1k and be fine still
clever ore
and why do the guys on archon with high keys have around 10k vers?
lusty grotto
we dont have specific stat amounts for anything other than
clever ore
lusty grotto
it really does not matter
clever ore
okey
lusty grotto
there are a lot of items with haste+vers this season as opposed to haste+crit
so its only natural it would look that way
clever ore
thats my current gear, need to swap this ring xD
jagged grove
thats my current gear, need to swap this ring xD
U can craft one
clever ore
U can craft one
ye or 1h
azure temple
do you loose block/parry/dodge chance whilst in mid air of heroic leap
clever ore
not sure
lime spruce
what's the advantage of running colossus over MT for M+, is it just the better self-healing from the bleed stuff
lusty grotto
what's the advantage of running colossus over MT for M+, is it just the better s...
there is none
its just for fun if anything
clever ore
craft the weapon
big difference? does prot scale good with weapon dps ?
lime spruce
its just for fun if anything
gotcha, the apm feels lower so there's a sanity buff for my hands 😂 might give it a try just to mix it up
clever ore
there are a lot of items with haste+vers this season as opposed to haste+crit
you need to explain me, why do they even craft haste+vers?
There has to be a reason to get some vers no?
I have the feeling i get hit like a truck sometimes because of my 0.8% vers xD
clever ore
Not really, i just dont understand when you say we want haste crist, why the best prot warrys craft haste vers
i dont see any reason
Just questioning
lusty grotto
youre looking at the top end doing the highest of keys
paper coral
yea
Ionizing Strikes? That seems like it "just" adds damage. is there an interaction im missing?
lusty grotto
they are limited like every single one of us due to ilvl caps and crest caps
clever ore
okey, just trying to understand
lusty grotto
so they often go vers to get that extra oomph they need for infinitely scaling content
for the 20s and 21s they are doing right now
everyone else under it, simply copies without reason
this has happened for every single season since legion
vers will not save you in anything under 18-20s
thats up to your gameplay
round pendant
that dot has to be like, the hardest thing to heal in the game
lusty grotto
removed by dwarf and mass dispel but sure
lusty grotto
or actually im not sure if mass dispel gets it
round pendant
it does
lusty grotto
could be caut angle
heavy sparrow
I have the feeling i get hit like a truck sometimes because of my 0.8% vers xD
Having high crit helped in S1 for me as a newbie
fallow beacon
anyone have a unequip/re-equip macro for tome to reset it inbetween raid pulls?