protection

[jagged pier]

i do as the sim command

[solid sun]

I know a couple people who still use pawn

[polar patio]

im just waiting for stat weight sim to tell me to go for mastery

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

good morning Rhino

[solid sun]

Good morning

[lusty grotto]

i had a crazy dream where there was a copy pasta

[plush tendon]

I dont think Blood has any hard stops on any stats

[solid sun]

Lmao wait you had the same dream

[plush tendon]

I cant dream of pasta

too much gluten

[solid sun]

We entered the twilight zone super early this morning

Accidentally stayed awake too long

[lusty grotto]

[plush tendon]

I stayed up way too late

did first two mythic at like 1am

learning to hit that up early in the week.... the groups are night and day compared to later in the week

[solid sun]

Big grats

[plush tendon]

thanks

[solid sun]

On our tenth pull last night the squad finally toppled over Saladbar. We stayed up a little bit to secure the kill

[plush tendon]

terrible drops... but we got it done at least

[lusty grotto]

bigg rats

[solid sun]

The number of missed star killer missiles

[wispy moth]

Maybe i shall try to do first two boss in mm

[lusty grotto]

in marksman you say

marksman good spec

[plush tendon]

yea, we trying to gear my friends hunter right now

actually busted for keys

both BM and MM

and the easiest spec in the game

[lusty grotto]

all 3 hunter specs are pretty solid

[plush tendon]

yea, but ones melee

[lusty grotto]

ive seen some survivals doing really well

[plush tendon]

instantly bleh

[solid sun]

Surv is the best hunter spec

[wispy moth]

mythic mod ._.

[plush tendon]

I have to complete my mole arc

and play hunter

start spending my time collecting pets and shit

[solid sun]

Closing in on completing the season goals of aotc and 3k

[plush tendon]

yea, but have you completed delvers journey 3?

because I have

[solid sun]

After that I get to take a break from tanking

[plush tendon]

[solid sun]

The main issue I have with taking a break from tanking is that the only person I know willing to tank only plays Ppal

And paladins give me the ick

[plush tendon]

Prot Pal is prob my second fav tank to play atm

even if certain things really grind my gears

not having Abom as blood has made me turbo sad in keys

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-im-good-saturday-night-live-nah-im-good-im-fine-no-thank-you-gif-19653647

[plush tendon]

and VDH.... its fine.... but I get bored

[solid sun]

I enjoy pwar

And bdk

But not bdk rn

[plush tendon]

I cry for my BDK

who somehow has become my most geared toon

doing like a key a week

[solid sun]

I bet just hitting 3k on the bdk would be super fine

But I don’t wanna

[plush tendon]

Ive been avoiding doing Ara Kara on my alts

so they got a -300 score or whatever for missing a dungeon

it is what it is

[solid sun]

AK is so awful

[lusty grotto]

ara kara pretty chill after last week's changes

still dogshit dungeon

[plush tendon]

yea, its fine

[lusty grotto]

but way more chill

[plush tendon]

but its a dog shit dungeon

[solid sun]

What did they change

[plush tendon]

only way you making me go in there is for score

[lusty grotto]

just some mild nerfs

to barrages and shit

[plush tendon]

they nerfed the front trash area

[lusty grotto]

and the poison spam too

[hushed smelt]

I'm sitting with gambit neck + ring (haste vers), hoa ring (mastery haste) and hc tier head and this is my vault, any suggestions or just sim for dps? I only play "higher" keys

[lusty grotto]

catalyze helm

that's it

[hushed smelt]

was contemplating ring cuz its high vers and i struggle to survive at times

but guess head is the only option really

[lusty grotto]

shouldnt contemplate a ring at all in that case

that "high vers" wont make a difference

[plush tendon]

you take helm

no questions asked there

helm is lowkey one of the strongest item slots

next to chest and legs

[lusty grotto]

yup all 3 slots have the biggest stat pool

and are tied with each other

[plush tendon]

besides, we have approached 4 crafts

soon we'll be making rings and necks (or you already are cause you didnt craft wep and shield)

and literally all of the HM Taz rings and necks are good for us

[solid sun]

As soon as I get more titan cassettes I will have my fourth craft

[hushed smelt]

ya im just grabbing helm, ty for input mates

[plush tendon]

yea, getting the titan things is a pain in the butt

wish they dropped from M+

but alas, Ion hates me

[lusty grotto]

just do 3x level 1 delves

in like 20s each

[plush tendon]

I actually do 11s XD

[mellow bridge]

every stat helps you survive, vers wont make you survive any better than the other stats

[plush tendon]

when people arent online and I slap on some netflix or football

still, once I get to the 4th toon im sort of delved out

[mellow bridge]

Stonevault follower dungeon is pretty op for fragments

5x1st boss, each run is like 2 mins

[plush tendon]

I wish we got Stonevault over Ara

[winged light]

are any of these worth it?

[neon elk]

Just do the weeklies biweekly turn them in next week and drop spark from m+, ezpz

[plush tendon]

not really

Ritual Mud is super niche

[lusty grotto]

its better than nothing

and the rest is nothing

[plush tendon]

might be a sockie angle

[winged light]

i mean i have an on use that gives me mastery

[lusty grotto]

its mud or socket sure

[winged light]

guess i can take mud then

[plush tendon]

big news though, Im only 1 week behind on Gilded crest upgrades

after next week, if I dont get any upgrades, I should be caught up

[round pendant]

personally think it's still too tight on time

[plush tendon]

[plush tendon]

you just have to chain pull a lot

[solid sun]

Does the raid skip take you directly to Saladbar

[plush tendon]

and follow the simple rules of only two casters at anytime

but I think a lot of time gets lost in Ara Kara to those bloodguards

unless you have a Arcane Mage/Havoc or some other funnel prio class smacking them

[solid sun]

How to avoid

[plush tendon]

I also think a lot of groups arent playing first boss correctly (or still too scared to have boss next to the adds he spawns

[solid sun]

I do the first boss right now but I won’t lie

It’s def caused arguments in discord

[hardy snow]

yes

[plush tendon]

you lose so much damage by sending dps to send out of their way to kill those spiders

but in lower keys prob doesnt matter too much

[hardy snow]

You don't have to do Sentinel in order to use skip to Salhadar

[plush tendon]

but on a 16 or 17 if we did that, the fight would be a 6 minute slog

[frosty mango]

You can’t avoid them

You just need to have dps with brain

[carmine solstice]

Crest cost reduction on future pieces, or a socket looks like

[frosty mango]

Hard prio then aoe

[solid sun]

Roid!

Did you see the copypasta

I tagged you

[frosty mango]

I did I posted my own Jakey meta copypasta in reply

[solid sun]

Heck yes

[frosty mango]

Re ara this is why I run a non meta route

That goes center at the end

Bc I trust my dps to prio

I get most of my % before first boss

[solid sun]

I feel like the middle lane is faster then slogging through one of the sides

[frosty mango]

50/50

If you have bad prio imo it’s not

[polar patio]

Ara Kara just traumatizing for me. I have yet to see a mage not die to 2nd boss charge this season..

[errant oriole]

questions is there any reason why no one is running collossus for m+?

[frosty mango]

But if you have double funnel (dh/arc) it is

[solid sun]

Is shadow just slept on

[plush tendon]

yes

[solid sun]

Or do shadow priests suck

Nobody ever mentions them

[plush tendon]

I play with a shadow priest

he can pop off

but it does suffer from the 'key too low' affix

[lusty grotto]

i mention them

and have mentioned them'

[frosty mango]

Both are true

Shadow is slept on but most of them also suck at m+

[neon elk]

I have very bad experience with spriest, same with druids this season for somr reason

[frosty mango]

The duality of shadow

[paper crypt]

I love being prot warrior and doing the top DPS in a raid. It's satisfying

[solid sun]

I’ve had good experiences with feral Druids

[lusty grotto]

i wouldnt say its satisfying

[solid sun]

Boomkins are banned though

[lusty grotto]

i would say thats a horrible raid

[solid sun]

I think that’s def a fair description. As someone who plays with a lot of gray parsers

[plush tendon]

Feral is very good

[solid sun]

The novelty of beating shadow priests and frost DK’s wears off quickly

[plush tendon]

but its a hard spec

[paper crypt]

I mean yeah it's mostly gray and green parsers. But this is a casual group, not my main group. In my main group I'm never getting top on prot

[lusty grotto]

there's nothing satisfying for beating dead beats

or afkers

[paper crypt]

I can't agree

[lusty grotto]

or netflix'ers

[plush tendon]

hey now

[solid sun]

When the boss doesn’t die and enraged with half a percent left and you look at the meters and you’re third, it isn’t satisfying. It’s frustrating

[lusty grotto]

yea

you dont wanna beat the floor

[plush tendon]

when Im top damage, I know we are gonna have a bad time

[lusty grotto]

everybody worth their salt does that

[paper crypt]

I actually do though

[plush tendon]

the only time It was ok was in BFA

[paper crypt]

It's fun

[plush tendon]

when I was uncapped with lots of TD

[paper crypt]

Seeing purple, orange, pink next to your name but being below all the DPS might be good for progression. But it's not as motivating.

[livid oak]

Who wants a good laugh at my logs for the 4 keys i did tonight >.>

[lusty grotto]

youre not seeing orange purple pink if youre dpsing all the raid

[paper crypt]

?

That sentence doesn't make sense

[lusty grotto]

your kill times are ass

it makes perfect sense

either they are sand bagging you, or they are just bad

or youre just talking LFR

[paper crypt]

I'm saying that not having floor PoV players means you're going to be below the DPS on kills, even if your parse as a tank is good.

And that naturally being below all the DPS is not as fun as beating some or all of them

Even if having good DPS means you prog faster

[plush tendon]

thats a take

that I cant agree with

[paper crypt]

Good thing you don't have to

[plush tendon]

you right, I dont

I enjoy playing with good players

[paper crypt]

I raid because improvement over time is fun, and comparing myself only against the other tank or people from leaderboards is not as motivating.

Especially since the other tank is probably not prot

[solid sun]

But you can compare yourself against other prot warriors from other raids

Why would you be competing with the dps

[paper crypt]

I just said that's not as motivating

Because it's fun

[lusty grotto]

brother you cant self improve if you dont compare with others

thats just lying to yourself

[paper crypt]

I do compare.

[livid oak]

When looking at logs - what is the mitigated % you want to see at the minimum?

[lusty grotto]

there's none

we look at effective block

hover over melee or any blockable hit, specifically the HIT part

we're not paladins

you want to look at block metrics

[round pendant]

I just take a paladin in every run because they're always doing 8-9m overall because the spec plays itself

but shadow priests, warlocks, boomies, mages

never do any damage

[plush tendon]

Ret Paladin is very good

for weeklies and pug groups

[round pendant]

yeah it's fucking annoying

[plush tendon]

they have a 30 second damage profile

so they have DPS for basically every pull

whereas if you take a Destro lock, you kind of want to pull around Infernal

[round pendant]

and they get damage on bosses too

meanwhile I'm over here playing sin

[plush tendon]

low key, Ret Paladin is like S tier for weekly keys

[round pendant]

just being mad at the paladin for being spooned

[plush tendon]

if we had a tier list for weekly 10-12 keys

[livid oak]

https://i.imgur.com/TkXnVhl.png so would that be considered good or bad

Just trying to figure it out ><

[round pendant]

Mouse over the "Hits" column

[plush tendon]

actually, lets make a tier list of DPS for weekly keys

[plush tendon]

[lusty grotto]

its low

[plush tendon]

lower then T-Pain

[livid oak]

What should i be aiming for?

[lusty grotto]

you want as close to 100% as humanly possible

[livid oak]

ok

[lusty grotto]

so 90%+

[livid oak]

That mean i either let it fall off or i took alot of backshots from shit positioning?

[lusty grotto]

yeah it could be any of them

[livid oak]

Ok, that gives me something to work with

[round pendant]

some dungeons are harder than others

but I get 90-96% blocked hits

depending on how lazy I'm being

[plush tendon]

my weekly 10-12 dps tier list

what yall think?

[round pendant]

bdk A tier

[lusty grotto]

i think shadow should be way up

[round pendant]

sin isn't bad in 12s, pretty meh in 10s

[lusty grotto]

because a well played shadow is hard to beat

[plush tendon]

things die too quick for shadow to be good in that key range

[lusty grotto]

lol

[dusky canopy]

BRM/Rsham/Fury/Fdk/BM

[lusty grotto]

ok

[dusky canopy]

Ez mode pumper group

[heavy sparrow]

Does shield uptime count only in combat time? Ie, mounting up is downtime?

[round pendant]

okay but shadow below aug is wild

[plush tendon]

yea, thats a OP comp

[plush tendon]

oh I didnt do it in order

for left to right

they both are just D

[round pendant]

deez nuts

[plush tendon]

anything in the S tier

is pretty godly

for weeklies*

[plush tendon]

thats a legit awesome comp

for any key level

[dusky canopy]

Ye that’s the way to play weekly 12s for sure atleast for a fury gamer anyway

[serene wave]

What's better at Hero track pacemaker or antenna? I have Souldhunters hero and was debating what to pair with it? Or should I try and get a prism?

[plush tendon]

Fury is in a really good spot

since they fixed the bugs with slayer

but Im more of a arms enjoyer... im just not a huge fan of it right now

I kind of miss SL season 2 arms

[frosty mango]

Arms will be back

Don’t worry

Soon blizz will buff it

-# right?

[undone beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1402663520029511872/Doom_Gif_2.0.gif

[high latch]

Surely 🥲

[deep iris]

Roid! I tool your advice, spending more rage in raid. Parses went up. Shocker. 😄

[frosty mango]

Yes. Use your anger

[deep iris]

Oh I have plenty of that. We're now at 60 Priory runs and 4 weeks of vault with no Tome. 3 normal and heroic raid clears, no Brand, but a buddy gets myth Tome on his 4th alt that he's just playing for fun.

The rage runs deep.

[high latch]

Maybe I don't have the right to complain after all. Just got my Tome after 34 runs.

[deep iris]

Nah man, I'm just cursed. It's become a meme in guild at this point.

[high latch]

Yeah.. Even 34 is quite unlucky, but now I am free

[deep iris]

Probably ~20% of those runs are guild runs with 5 people rolling tank spec, still nothing.

[lusty grotto]

youre the 2nd person to beat my s2 record

this season

[deep iris]

\o/ What do I win?

[lusty grotto]

but if youre really at 60

[deep iris]

Sadness?

[lusty grotto]

youre winning by a fuckload

[rancid basalt]

I currently have Hc tome of lights and Hc ceaseless ire, my vault has mythic chest and a mythic Tome, is it worth taking the mythic tome considering everyones saying the Hc antenna is better?

[deep iris]

I'm counting number of times the dungeon has started, not finished. I think ther's likr 4-5 total that haven't finished, so the real number is 56 chances at loot

This is the most recent drop table though

[lusty grotto]

#protection message read this

[deep iris]

Sanctified Priory Wall: 4
Bloodstained Memento: 3
Reanimator's Pyreforged Shoulders: 3
Flameforged Armguard: 5
Devoted Plate Walkers: 4
Radiant Necromancer's Band: 2
Signet of the Priory: 0
Tome of Light's Devotion: 0

Runs: 60

[high latch]

Also no signets? I got 5 before Tome showed up

[deep iris]

None whatsoever.

[high latch]

Not that we want Signet anyway, but.

Next run is the one 🙏

[deep iris]

My trinket drops have been nonexistant this season. I got Sacbrood on M0 week, Pacemaker at hero track week 1, normal Dim trinket and myth Plexis trinket.

Plexus*

[rancid basalt]

Okay. If myth track tome is JUST better than everything else, what would i pair with it? baring in mind this character doesnt mythic raid?

[lusty grotto]

its not better than everything

its situational

its myth track, and you cannot farm it

you would have to wait for dinars

[rancid basalt]

All this character does is M+

[lusty grotto]

yeah well tome is fucking great for M+

prio and boss damage

[frosty mango]

Also fatty parry

[rancid basalt]

Yeah thats what i thought, but folk were saying antenna is better /:?

[ocean smelt]

lol no

[lusty grotto]

you def shouldnt vendor antenna

[frosty mango]

Having omega parry highly underrated for certain things, like stacking debuffs

[high latch]

Antenna is better if you want overall damage, but Tome is insane for ST/prio which is typically quite valuable even if it's less damage overall.

[frosty mango]

I really don’t believe this is true

On paper maybe

But in reality I don’t think it is

[rancid basalt]

The top 10 prot warriors are all using antenna and ire, surely theres something more than "they havent looted myth track tome?"

[lusty grotto]

we dont give advice to the top 10 warriors

they do their own thing

[rancid basalt]

Surely there is some logic to it though?

[lusty grotto]

not that we care about

but feel free to ask em

[high latch]

Yeah maybe.. I haven't simmed them myself or seen comprehensive sims comparing them, so I'm just going off what several other people have said. Could be wrong.

[glacial kestrel]

Hi. I am a bit confused regarding neck jewelry. I have a hero track necklace (crit+vers) with a socket and in my vault a mythic track necklace (vers+master+avoidance) and no socket. Do I understand it correctly that I can add two sockets via Magnificent Jeweler's Setting to the myth track item and only one to the hero track item as it has already one socket? I know that both are not optimal regarding stat prio but at least the myth track will have a higher iLvl and avoidance, but I am not sure how important avoidance is for a tank

[frosty mango]

If you consider what type of -actual- scenario you will have with antenna in m+, it’s not really unrealistic to expect a miss rate of 30%

When you put a 30% miss antenna into sims then it becomes much less desirable

[high latch]

That is a good point actually

[neon elk]

In gambit first boss, is it even worth it to pull those 4 eletric guys into if u have 2 meeles ? 3 with me

[rancid basalt]

I just cant understand why no one doing high high keys is using a tome

if its that good

But i mean ill take it anyway

[frosty mango]

Because they are running full prio meta dps and don’t need st damage

[high latch]

Yeah, if your comp is already swimming in prio damage then you don't need it

[dusky canopy]

I’ve been preaching that shit too man it’s not even omg so broken must have as people like to make it out to be

Look at saladbar and dim logs

[high latch]

And Brand is busted. If we didn't have that I suspect more people would run Tome.

[dusky canopy]

People got low uptime with that trinket

[frosty mango]

IMO for most people tome/brand is the best m+ combo, and if you want pure damage then idol/brand

[dusky canopy]

Moving around a ton and missing orbs surely

[rancid basalt]

Okay, so ill be running Mythic Tome, and Hc brand, i assume getting mythic arakara/pacemaker will outscale the Hc ire?

[frosty mango]

Doubt it

[high latch]

Brand is insane, so probably not

Sim question though.

[frosty mango]

I’m pretty sure a champ brand would outsim basically anything besides idol for aoe

[wispy moth]

The only way to outperformed ire brand is in case where the fight is less than 4min

[solid sun]

Does Brand do well on Dimmy

[frosty mango]

Do you drop combat? I don’t know if you do or not

[high latch]

Yeah I was wondering exactly that. Cus if you drop combat in the flying sequences then you're gonna lose a lot of stacks. Otherwise, it's such a long fight it's gonna be amazing.

[jagged hamlet]

You can add two sockets to any ring or neck

[undone beacon]

I dont think you drop combat at all in that fight

but i can go check

You are in combat the whole fight yes

[solid sun]

Heck yeah

[glacial kestrel]

So I can buy two of this and add them one after each other? That means there is no higher value in items that already have a socket, correct? I would just save on the gold for one Magnificent Jeweler's Setting

[dusky canopy]

DURABILITY <50%

[jagged hamlet]

Gold savings

[solid sun]

You better check that durability

[undone beacon]

I am so bad about my gear so i had to have something to yell at me

its great except on my warr because it averages all the gear durability and since my shield is toast after like one dungeon its constantly flashing on my screen

I have some wacky ass WAs its okay

[rancid basalt]

wat

[solid sun]

I was helping a friend get their casual guild aotc last tier and she would force everyone to repair after every wipe lol

[undone beacon]

honestly we're pretty close to that because people dont listen

[high latch]

Actually a good idea.. Happens way too often someone goes "oops, gear broke"

[undone beacon]

My general utility pack lmfao

[high latch]

Can I have the third one

[solid sun]

Who are you telling not to chain pull

[high latch]

Yourself. Because you have an assa with you.

[undone beacon]

I'm telling myself so the guild rogues stop yelling at me

[solid sun]

Weak

Keep chain pulling until they pick a wizard class to play instead

[undone beacon]

I also have my class stuff all neatly sorted

Gotta keep my menus clean

[high latch]

Based

[mint gorge]

Why are some tanks going out of the usual order of mini bosses in dawnbreaker

[high latch]

To time lust better

Or they're bad

[undone beacon]

lust timings yeah

[high latch]

If you kill the first mini super quick you don't wanna go down to the orb boy yet.

[undone beacon]

my route is stinky anyways so i cant comment

[solid sun]

I never did orb second

Always did house second

[glacial kestrel]

Thank you very much

[high latch]

You can do that, but ideally you watch the lust CD and try to get to the orb mini as soon as possible for the 2nd lust.

[solid sun]

Never used lust on a mini either

[serene wave]

Is dimensius ring good or should I chase dawn breaker one?

[deep iris]

I've always done lust on second pull, then on second boss usually, though I could see it being super useful on orb mini

[solid sun]

Yeh we always do second pull and then second boss also

[frosty mango]

Ur stinky

Ha Gottem

[high latch]

Do you still get lust back up for last boss then?

[solid sun]

Nah everything dies too fast

Including the last boss

You must be talking about some kinda beefy key tech or something.

[high latch]

The idea isn't anything crazy. You lust 2nd pull, then orb mini, then you get a third lust for 2nd phase Rasha. I feel like lusting Anub instead delays it too much so you lose one lust.

But maybe not?

[solid sun]

Idk spider wizard boss always feels like he lives forever when we don’t have lust

[high latch]

He does. It makes sense to lust there to me if you don't lose one for it.

[tame jasper]

How do I calculate how big an upgrade of a shield is defensive wise? Raidbots only counts DPS values

[high latch]

You can't really sim defensively, so what most of us do is trust in the fact that gearing for damage also improves your tankiness. But shield is big.

[frosty mango]

Also remember the bigger the shield you mog the stronger it is

Tiny shield tiny defense. Big shield big defense

/s

[deep iris]

I'm trying to find a new shield for Juggernaut mog

Currently using yellow shield from Terros

[frosty mango]

Illidan shield bis shield

[nocturne spindle]

Aegis of aggramar is bis always

[round pendant]

I think I should get some aoe trinket for my weekly keys so I can pad

rather than tome

[frosty mango]

Idol

[round pendant]

yeah if it'd drop

:insane

[frosty mango]

Or if you want ez, chaotic nethergate

[round pendant]

GIMME EMOTES AAAA

[dusky canopy]

You get nothing!

You lose!

[round pendant]

Soleah's sims higher than that for 5+ target

🤔

3+*

[frosty mango]

Yea but nethergate make details bar go very big

[round pendant]

don't I have to do a bunch of delves to get the vendor to buy that?

[frosty mango]

No just be rank 3 and clear a t9

He’ll pop up

[round pendant]

🤔

[solid sun]

Just get a brand

Easy

[round pendant]

Thanks Rhino, as helpful as always

[lusty grotto]

so close

yet so far

i just realized im on a guild run

[solid sun]

lol

[tame jasper]

yeh I know. But I compete with DPS classes on the shield which have DPS wise a higher gain according to sim, so I would like to calculate how much defensive update it is to give a hint to our LC

[lusty grotto]

i havent seen a Brand in like 3 weeks

we've had 0 back to back on guild reclears

feelsbadman

[solid sun]

Soon

[frosty mango]

I’m using lfr brand

I feel you

[tame jasper]

we have 0 HC so far in our guild and 2 normal

[solid sun]

Is lfr actually better than other options you currently have

Or are you running it just to feel alive

[round pendant]

This seems like a "if you have to ask, you're not" question, but how do I check? lmao

[solid sun]

Have you tried getting the idol

That does big dam

[dusky canopy]

Bruh they yoinked that from you

Smh

[round pendant]

Maybe one day

oh I need to set my loot spec to dps now ig

at least while doing dungeons

wait I swear I vendored an idol

nope, just went through the recovery list

[warm plinth]

Good morning

[dusky canopy]

Good morning gnash

[frosty mango]

Uh it’s in the delve tab

Delvers journey

Rank 3 I think is the vendor

[solid sun]

Howdy

[round pendant]

yeah I forgot to say I found it

thanks tho

[lusty grotto]

it is what it is

[kind urchin]

My co tank got a normal brand from a pug and we haven't had a single one drop the entire season in our guild raids. Only reason he pugged was because he missed the first raid day of the season.

[lament turret]

what tier piece do we not want ideally?

got chest and legs in vault

[lusty grotto]

chest

but dont sleep over any if you dont have 4pc

[lament turret]

new alt so i can decide lol

[lusty grotto]

and especially if its higher ilvl

if its an ilvl upgrade you pick it

over anything

[lament turret]

both are myth track and i dont have either

[lusty grotto]

despite what our offpiece is

[dusky canopy]

Nim my guild moved our first raid night to Tuesday and I couldn’t attend now I missed first 4 and have no vault slots 🫠

[lusty grotto]

pick chest

wait legs

sorry

get the legs

[lusty grotto]

tuesday raiding is cursed

lag spikes, ddos, and shit galore

[dusky canopy]

Had obligations with my wife I couldn’t rearrange

Smh

[lusty grotto]

legs should be better, but which is the highest ilvl upgrade? just curious

damn

[dusky canopy]

Oh well got legs or idol in vault

[lusty grotto]

did you see my vault

3x chests

[dusky canopy]

Fingers crossed I can get zenith chest from frac and then it’s not a total loss

[lusty grotto]

and hero hunter boots

[dusky canopy]

Hmmm

[lament turret]

both are 675

[dusky canopy]

That’s down bad

Damn

[lusty grotto]

no plate boots have dropped for us though

so im likely picking those

depends if i come in plexus today and we get a chest, but it will just justify more the boot pick since i dont think picking a myth chest over hunter boots for fury is a smart pick

[lusty grotto]

ok get legs then

[round pendant]

alright I got that trinket

it better pump

[dusky canopy]

Boots are probably the biggest pick if you know you won’t ever get the myth versions

[deep iris]

Listen, I know the numbers are skewed because of this week's affix, but still

[round pendant]

wait, this trinket isn't split damage?

[dusky canopy]

Thing is boots will eventually be easy to get

Atleast with guild group

[lusty grotto]

yeah seems its likely that it will be a while considering our luck

yeah but chest drops from plexus

[dusky canopy]

Also true

[lusty grotto]

one you can cata at least

[dusky canopy]

Kind of a wash

I’d just take whatever sims best at its respective max ilvl probably

[lusty grotto]

yea

[dusky canopy]

I think with crests spent I might barely be able to creep past 5.6m st this week

[stone moat]

💀

What key was it

[deep iris]

Priory 10

[blazing ridge]

Is it interrupt padding week again? xdd

[stone moat]

Smh if you snipe every boss kick you can rack up kicks

[lusty grotto]

btw classic Mouse rolls, both were leather

[stone moat]

How many of those kicks coulda been reflects on last boss

[dusky canopy]

Bruh

[twilit gorge]

Neck sims +4k dps over the trinket. Having a hard time choosing, any inputs? I go from 28,6k to 22k haste with the neck swap.

[high latch]

I would 100% take Pacemaker, personally

[vale escarp]

What trinkets have you got?

[high latch]

That is an important question actually

[twilit gorge]

Using pacemaker hero + netherprism hero atm

[high latch]

Yeah, Pacemaker for me thank you very much

[plush tendon]

you take pacemaker mythic

you can craft a similar neck

[vale escarp]

Btw will Turbo Season be like last time?

[warm plinth]

Yep I'm taking pacemaker l. Easy choice.

[high latch]

Because there are several god necks you can get. Some can be farmed like with Taz HM.

[plush tendon]

you cant craft a similar trinket

[high latch]

Yes, we're getting Turbo

[twilit gorge]

Yea I figured, thanks guys 🙂

[warm plinth]

As far as we know it's the same as last season, yes

[plush tendon]

I hope not

I want mythic raid loot without killing all the raid bosses

especially on myalts

[warm plinth]

Pretty sure they already said it was

[vale escarp]

And mostly start in october with Legion Remix?

[high latch]

Yeah, from their announcements it seems pretty much identical

[plush tendon]

[warm plinth]

Yeah I believe it's coming in .2.5

[high latch]

Shortly after, yes

[plush tendon]

is it.5 or .7?

is there a .7

what even is a .7

[warm plinth]

Udk

Idk

[high latch]

Well, track extention is then. The vendor comes a bit later.

[warm plinth]

We could theoretically have a .7 but we won't have an 11.3

[plush tendon]

yea, I need hard dates for track extension

and for gilded crests being uncapped

and for turbo loot

but I already know what I want from Turbo: Brand, Soul Hunter Boots, Netherprisim

[warm plinth]

All they've said is "shortly after the release of the 11.2.5 content update"

[dusky canopy]

Turbo week going to be fun

[warm plinth]

For turbo boost

[dusky canopy]

I enjoyed the last quite a bit

[high latch]

There aren't any announcements regarding date, but based on previous patch timings it's likely to be in 3 weeks.

That should be both track extentions and removal of crest caps

Then the vendor comes "shortly after"

[warm plinth]

You're likely to be in 3 weeks

[high latch]

Whatever that means.

[warm plinth]

Fuckin gottem

[dusky canopy]

Ohh dayumm

[high latch]

Why you gotta do me like that 🙁

[dusky canopy]

[warm plinth]

It's my mission to unleash the sick burns

[high latch]

You are down with it as the kids say

[warm plinth]

I'm pretty sure it's been decades since down with it was a thing kids say. Now you're showing your age and making me show mine 😭

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-grandpa-let's-get-you-to-bed-gif-3440862259299766707

[high latch]

Exactly according to plan 👏

[warm plinth]

How did you get that photo of me?

[lusty grotto]

i used my top of the line polaroid camera

cause my kodak one was giving me problems

my panasonic cam corder is on the fringe too

[warm plinth]

I remember when my grandparents bought their first digital camera. It was $600 and you had to put legit 3 1/2" floppy disks in it

[waxen frigate]

All im saying is you guys sit and analyze trinkets and numbers and forget to play the game. I bet you lose at least 10% dmg due to keybinds, addons and flexibility. Then you login and see people with less gear outperfoming you and wonder why 😄 (not intended for you personally ofc). This isint data analyst excel shit you do at job...more factors take place than you think. And yes im 100% sure that Sim is total shit. (not enough filters to use it as you think it works atm)

[warm plinth]

Oh hi Nish. Welcome to last night.

[round pendant]

+4k? that's like nothing

oh everyone already replied

but yeah you can just craft a neck if you really need haste on it

new spark this week so

[lusty grotto]

All im saying is you guys sit and analyze trinkets and numbers and forget to play the game. I bet you lose at least 10% dmg due to keybinds, addons and flexibility. Then you login and see people with less gear outperfoming you and wonder why 😄 (not intended for you personally ofc). This isint data analyst excel shit you do at job...more factors take place than you think. And yes im 100% sure that Sim is total shit. (not enough filters to use it as you think it works atm)

[round pendant]

All im saying is you guys sit and analyze trinkets and numbers and forget to play the game. I bet you lose at least 10% dmg due to keybinds, addons and flexibility. Then you login and see people with less gear outperfoming you and wonder why 😄 (not intended for you personally ofc). This isint data analyst excel shit you do at job...more factors take place than you think. And yes im 100% sure that Sim is total shit. (not enough filters to use it as you think it works atm)

[dusky canopy]

All im saying is you guys sit and analyze trinkets and numbers and forget to play the game. I bet you lose at least 10% dmg due to keybinds, addons and flexibility. Then you login and see people with less gear outperfoming you and wonder why 😄 (not intended for you personally ofc). This isint data analyst excel shit you do at job...more factors take place than you think. And yes im 100% sure that Sim is total shit. (not enough filters to use it as you think it works atm)

[deep iris]

Guys, why aren't we all playing like this? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OKAgznE7z7c

[high latch]

This can't be real

[round pendant]

I mean, that's fine

Unironically nothing wrong with that

You get less density of keybinds but honestly the separation could improve your proprioception

[high latch]

I mean.. It obviously works for him, so yeah go on. But I would never recommend that to anyone.

[lime spruce]

y'all I am ashamed

I thought shield block obeyed pandemic rules of refresh, I didn't know I could stack it freely and not have to manage it

[round pendant]

only thing that matters is if you have enough keybinds

then secondary to that is your own personal comfort

[blazing ridge]

yeah

like

It definitly doesnt matter lol

[high latch]

There is a cap, but yeah you can stack it a lot

Like 3x I think

[blazing ridge]

But I am just so used to my hands/finger being on WASD, it would be impossible to ever pick up I guess

[plush tendon]

is that how Europeans play wow?

very strange

[high latch]

Hey don't drag us into that

[blazing ridge]

Dude

[lime spruce]

I'm over here watching charges trying to min/max refreshes around Shield Charge

[blazing ridge]

what

Why should it be how Euros plays xdd

[lime spruce]

the bandwidth debuff release is tremendous

[warm plinth]

It's not possible to overcap anyway. Just don't press it so much that you end up having it up between pulls

[high latch]

With HR you can overcap, but then it doesn't matter

[blazing ridge]

yeah dont end the pull with 16 secs, if the pull is small only just have 8s rolling

[warm plinth]

Wouldn't it be ironic that nothing is wrong with it

[blazing ridge]

but usually you are chaining then anyway and be running to next pack

[lime spruce]

my man

[warm plinth]

I'm just sayin

[lusty grotto]

theres nothing wrong with you

GOTTEM

its over

[lime spruce]

@warm plinth let me guess you also know the difference between begging the question and raising the question

[warm plinth]

Fuuuuuuuu

[blazing ridge]

people play better pubg then me with their feets, like it doesnt matter how you use your periphels if you can perform on them

[plush tendon]

I remind myself that we have a mythic raider in my guild... who plays with 1 arm

and wasnt there a blind guy who did keys in SL?

[blazing ridge]

is it efficient, I dont know. But it works for Kira so

[lime spruce]

Is he disabled or just

[high latch]

No kidding.. Wasn't it Max that played with laptop trackpad for a long time?

[plush tendon]

he has one arm

[lime spruce]

whew

[blazing ridge]

I think you can fury no problem with only MMO Mouse for example

[warm plinth]

I'm pretty sure that video is a meme anyway.

[plush tendon]

I played with a trackpad for a bit

when I first started playing

[lime spruce]

I'll switch to fury when I can play it with beat saber VR controllers

[remote hollow]

are this any good?

[lime spruce]

ultimat immersion

[high latch]

Sure, but Max was one of the worlds best players while doing so

[plush tendon]

eh, not worlds best

but very good

[high latch]

Wasn't that around the time he was consitently parsing top 1 or 2?

Am I misremembering?

[warm plinth]

😬

My boss at work uses trackpad and laptop keyboard for work at his desk.

He does not have a mouse or keyboard. On purpose.

[plush tendon]

eh, Im not really a big fan of parsing; for me its parse really well (get a yellow name or whatever) then its about achievements

and those started coming in I think BFA? When liquid actually was starting to give Method a run for their money

[round pendant]

I mean are we saying Max isn't a good player?

idk about that guys

[warm plinth]

Who said that?

[high latch]

It was more about while he was playing with his laptop and touchpad, which is a while ago

Like was he one of the worlds best or "just" really good at the time.

[warm plinth]

Yeah it was more them saying he was good despite playing in an atypical way

[high latch]

Either way, people will make almost any setup work.

Which is a great thing.

[lusty grotto]

i can use touchpads pretty well at work

[round pendant]

I'm just baiting

[lusty grotto]

but only if im on mac

[round pendant]

also I fucking hate kira's WA pack

[plush tendon]

yea, we are splitting hairs at this point

[vagrant echo]

any WA out there for pylon energy on Araz, so I don't have to click on the pylon to look?

[blazing zinc]

Thank you very much! I have a 720 crafted but soon we'll be able to craft anything so I don't really need the "instant gain", I prefer aiming for the long-term benefit

[undone beacon]

whats up nerds

[undone beacon]

gross

[lusty grotto]

[lusty grotto]

we have some new dells and the touchpad is just

[undone beacon]

Real men use these

[lusty grotto]

idk whats wrong with them but they do what they want at different times

for some reason, they were okay in the gen before it

[undone beacon]

ergonomic ball mouse ftw

[dusky canopy]

What in the 1990 is that shit

[lusty grotto]

and then they went to shit

[undone beacon]

dude ball mice are goated and nobody can tell me otherwise

[dusky canopy]

I got a goated ball for ya

[warm plinth]

Are those actually supposed to be ergonomic? That's a lot of back and forth thumb motion

[dusky canopy]

Hah Gottem

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-sad-gif-11498011059624046168

[undone beacon]

better for wrist and overall hand health or something idk im not an ergonicist

[solid sun]

I know someone who plays wow with two keyboards and no mouse

[undone beacon]

ergonomicist?

[lusty grotto]

no, real men use

[solid sun]

He plays ret paladin

[lusty grotto]

get flashbanged nerds

[undone beacon]

when i was little i wanted one of those laser projector keyboards

imagine playing wow with that mess

[high latch]

They are really bad.. I've used one for a bit.

[lusty grotto]

cool concept, but not in practical use

[undone beacon]

your poor bloody stumps of fingers

[deep iris]

Oh man, some Tenshii Universe vibes right there

[warm plinth]

No touch feedback would turn me off that forever

[high latch]

That is a big one, but even if you stared at it it wasn't accurate enough

[lusty grotto]

ghash is a forever lover of blackberries

[undone beacon]

wear a glove that is synced to the keyboard that shocks the tip everytime you hit a key

easy feedback

[warm plinth]

Never used a blackberry but I do have haptic feedback on my phone

[undone beacon]

Do they even make blackberries anymore

[high latch]

I've seen some wild ergonomic keyboards and in a lot of the cases their designs actually make some sense.

[undone beacon]

I remember my fuckin dad usin one lol

[lusty grotto]

what a goated phone, only after Nokias though

[undone beacon]

I'm like 7 years old tho

[warm plinth]

I don't think so

I was late in the phone game because we were poor

Didn't have a smartphone until I was 21

[lusty grotto]

my first smart phone was a galaxy nexus realistically

[warm plinth]

Mine was an iPhone 3gs

[lusty grotto]

before that i had garbage blackberry copies that sucked and had no data

[undone beacon]

i just got my dads old hand-me-downs and since he worked in tech he usually had pretty decent phones

[lusty grotto]

and nokias

[dusky canopy]

Bro you better autocorrect that shit Nish got banned for accidentally typing that he was 12 lmao

[lusty grotto]

Nish

[dusky canopy]

Yeah autocorrect strikes again

[lusty grotto]

@waxen frigate how old are you

i 'member

[undone beacon]

damn thats ageism and i will sue all warriors

[dusky canopy]

No like discord banned

[undone beacon]

oh shit

[dusky canopy]

Not valkyr banned

[undone beacon]

lmao

[dusky canopy]

Yeah 🤣

[undone beacon]

Also unrelated but did they change Streets to automatically pick up the oasis rp item when you walk on it? Might've missed a bluepost or smthn

[warm plinth]

Nope

[undone beacon]

I swear i havent been clicking it but ive been getting the item

hold on

[neon elk]

I have a lot of weird interaction in that part

[warm plinth]

There's a lot of bugs in that area where it'll straight up show on your debuffs that you have it and have the extra action button, but you dont have it

[neon elk]

Like , adds spawning, i will have the debuf, but i wont pick up items so i cant trade etc..

Yea exactly that , so annoying also sometimes the adds that spawn and are supposed to be fixed get like snaped on the little tables and whatnot around vendors and they dont insta fix , so there is chance someone is getting slaped

[undone beacon]

ok so i literally just got out of a streets on my alt

You can see my mouse was nowhere near the item

And i ended up with it somehow

[neon elk]

But u didnt have it ? Pala took it

Or at least thats what i see on the clip

[dawn herald]

hey guys, what is the "minimum" required haste rating? I have 21.7k/47% ~707 ilvl

[undone beacon]

No he doesnt

[grizzled adder]

Good evening, can anyone help with vault choice?

[undone beacon]

I have it over my head, on my buff bar, and on the party frame

[dusky canopy]

25k

[high latch]

21k to run Into the Fray

[undone beacon]

and i was the one to turn it in to the next npc

[grizzled adder]

My current

[dusky canopy]

Raw stat value = 24-25k

[high latch]

Myth tier is really good. It'll be your bis for the whole season. But so might the Brand be too. Do you expect to be able to farm Brand later?

[neon elk]

But somehow the mobs were not fixated on you?

[undone beacon]

No fixate in the first pack

only strongarms fixate, its 0 then 1 then 2

[neon elk]

Och , didnt know, i always pick item so i dont care much about that . Anyway, yea this looks like one of bugs

[grizzled adder]

Im constantly runing normal-hc for Brand, never got it. Mythic is out of my league probably, im more M+ player.

[round pendant]

60% better

[high latch]

If you're running with the same group each week you'll probably get Brand reasonably soon. Myth tier is hard to get outside of vault if you don't mythic raid.

[lusty grotto]

i dont like 60%s

i like 80% its just perfect

80 or 75

[dusky canopy]

I prefer 69% of your mom, that’s perfect

[undone beacon]

whats the 31% of her you dont like brew

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

Her off spring

[lusty grotto]

alright now

you take that back

[dusky canopy]

[undone beacon]

I'm like 10% at most tho

[dusky canopy]

Im about 10% brain capacity

Imagine unlocking the rest

Hollyy

[undone beacon]

she give me that 10% brain

sorry

[dusky canopy]

🤣

[native ember]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT got the fucking brand from the god damn 4 mythic loot box

[fathom oasis]

grats but also fk you

but mostly grats

[native ember]

bro ive been getting such ass vaults i def needed this love and it was my birthday yesterday ❤️

[fathom oasis]

the "freebie" myth track item from TZ HM is a once per character thing, right?

[lofty warren]

Oh how the mighty have fallen

[strong forum]

Yuh, nephtus

[lofty warren]

That armor nerf really knocked vdh down

[blazing shuttle]

They got nerfed???

[undone beacon]

seems wrong bear should be in b tier for bear

[plush tendon]

I mean, I couldve told you that

before the season even started

[fathom oasis]

aighty, ty

[blazing shuttle]

Also bear on BDK tier seems...

Harsh, lol.

[lofty warren]

Their armor got nerfed going into s3

[plush tendon]

well, its not just the armor

[fathom oasis]

and dk in D tier, subsequently

[plush tendon]

honestly, they are totally fine but they just arent as tanky as Prot War, dont have the group util of Prot Pal, their sigils are good but both Prot War and Pal have similar capabitlies in their own kits, and VDH damage is quite low

[grim pilot]

Vdh damage is very fine

[plush tendon]

its fiiine

[grim pilot]

They lack a bit on st

But they do competitive overall

[plush tendon]

still a bitch and half to get aggro compared to my War or Pal

[grim pilot]

Idk aggro is better on vdh imo

[lofty warren]

Honestly glad vdh lower was getting bored of always being vdh

[grim pilot]

U just have to learn to play around it

[frosty mango]

Nothing beats war for aggro

[grim pilot]

I.e gather is better

[frosty mango]

You just thunder blast ezpz

[plush tendon]

Gather feels the best on Prot Paladin for me

[grim pilot]

You cant multi tag far away mobs

[plush tendon]

except when shield goes astray

XD

[grim pilot]

Thats a big downside for warrior

[frosty mango]

Sure you can, leap on to them

[charred shard]

Hey just noticed most of best Prot logs are using Execute talents (with SD and others). I wanna try as well but somehow I'm not sure If the Weakaura i'm using for Fury applies for prot (the one for Sudden death). Is the condition so basic as prot that we do not need WA?

[subtle current]

hello, probably has been asked 1000times but is it better Mythic boots or Heroic cloak boosting boots ?

[fathom oasis]

myth boots

[fathom oasis]

i came accross raider.io's heatmaps and it's my new favorite thing

look at that big red circle

[round pendant]

they need to add 1 minute to ara-kara's timer

and I won't despise that pull's existence anymore

[high latch]

Yeah their heatmaps are good. Can filter on some interesting things.

[rocky crest]

Any ide what to choose ? I'm running with antenna and brands on trinkets atm and rings are devout from dawn and signet of collapsing stars

I only run +m's

[fathom oasis]

see, in ED at least people die in a few diff spots

[high latch]

I'm thinking Ring of the Panoply, but that's a sim question really.

[rocky crest]

sim says signet

[lusty grotto]

x2

[rocky crest]

I was also thinking of pano

[lusty grotto]

if it doesnt have haste, ignore the sim suggestion

unless if you have 27k+ haste

[rocky crest]

what to replace with pano pick ( devout or signet ?

[lusty grotto]

sims stop caring about haste at about 20k, and you shouldn't

[rocky crest]

signet is heavy on haste and vers

[lusty grotto]

then pick signet

[high latch]

Now that is a sim question

[lusty grotto]

and obey the sim

[high latch]

Yeah, Signet in that case

[fathom oasis]

how many eligible items do we have as prot war in the raid? 40ish?

so there's like a 2.5% chance of getting brand on that silly chest

[lusty grotto]

i was wondering about that last night

[high latch]

Can't be 40. Let me check.

[lusty grotto]

would have to count em

[high latch]

I'm about to

[fathom oasis]

was thinking 5x8, but i'm likely under-estimating

[leaden grail]

nah not every boss drops 5 items

[undone beacon]

worth noting you cant get tier tokens or curio from weekly box either

[high latch]

And I doubt chest can give the tier items

[lusty grotto]

the problem is tank loot spec has shields and 1h

[high latch]

or can it?

[lusty grotto]

either way you need it for brand

no

[fathom oasis]

that's true

[lusty grotto]

chest cant give tier items

[fathom oasis]

so, likely less than 40? i'm going to count em, brb

[leaden grail]

33 items?

[high latch]

26 items

[leaden grail]

what the fuck, either you or me are stupid

[high latch]

Maybe both

[lusty grotto]

my assumption was that if you were in a position where you had to pick between Brand and Screams... the odds would be more in favor of Screams

[leaden grail]

oh you cant get tier form the chest, can you? then im the dumb one

[high latch]

If the cantrip boots also counts then 27.

[fathom oasis]

27 i counted

[high latch]

Which it probably does

[fathom oasis]

so about a 4% then

[round pendant]

I only put crit + haste on all my jewellery

idc if vers is optimal according to a sim

it's gross af on a ring

[lusty grotto]

remember the copy pasta 😉

[fathom oasis]

no, but you see, if i get enough verse i get % damage reduction and that way i'm allowed to play worse

[round pendant]

I am at least aware of my shortcomings in this regard

[high latch]

All im saying is you guys sit and analyze trinkets and numbers and forget to play the game. I bet you lose at least 10% dmg due to keybinds, addons and flexibility. Then you login and see people with less gear outperfoming you and wonder why 😄 (not intended for you personally ofc). This isint data analyst excel shit you do at job...more factors take place than you think. And yes im 100% sure that Sim is total shit. (not enough filters to use it as you think it works atm)

[round pendant]

tbf I've only dropped 3 rings this entire season and they don't beat my crithaste rings

[fathom oasis]

i lose way more than 10% to just being dumb alone

[solid sun]

All im saying is you guys sit and analyze trinkets and numbers and forget to play the game. I bet you lose at least 10% dmg due to keybinds, addons and flexibility. Then you login and see people with less gear outperfoming you and wonder why 😄 (not intended for you personally ofc). This isint data analyst excel shit you do at job...more factors take place than you think. And yes im 100% sure that Sim is total shit. (not enough filters to use it as you think it works atm)

[high latch]

Same

Who is that copy pasta even from?

[solid sun]

Homegrown right here

Some dude last night/super early this morning

[high latch]

Nice. I like my pasta organic.

[fathom oasis]

i bet the guy wasn't even tracking his IP amount

[rocky crest]

what vers % are we running at past 17's ?

[high latch]

However much our sims say.

[fathom oasis]

no amount of versa is "needed" just get vers and crit up once you reach enough hast (~25k)

[rocky crest]

now hold on there! you can sim for optimal vers ? man I've fallen behind

[fathom oasis]

and don't leave mastery too far behind either

we sim for damage mostly, but keep in mind we do need 21+k haste tho

[high latch]

All stats that give us damage also give us tankiness. So get big dam, get big tank...iness.

[solid sun]

Vers doesn’t help you more than other stats. All the stats help you defensively. So you can aim for damage and rely on your gameplay to live

Press them buttons goodly

[rocky crest]

Aye indeed

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto legion remix 3 weeks

[rocky crest]

been stacking up vers in 16's and 17 atm. Felt it helped abit. but the game changer was investing in Shield Spec in talent tree

[solid sun]

Are we remixing together

[dusky canopy]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

yes skyhold gang

[high latch]

Turbo Boost and Remix launching at the same time?

Seems weird

[lament turret]

when do they launch?

[high latch]

7th Oct

[round pendant]

yknow I don't really agree with this

I feel like DH, Paladin, Brew

[round pendant]

all fuckin murder you if you screw up

DK too

[mellow yoke]

Remix getting speedran by some dudes who found a glitch that makes you scale 1000x faster than others

Anyways

[lament turret]

try getting hit in the back as vdh

u flop over or u dont use ur gcds right and u also flop over outside of big cds

[high latch]

Is this a comment about prot warrior?

[round pendant]

yea

[fathom oasis]

really?

[high latch]

I think prot warr is one of the more forgiving tanks. Right after druid.

[fathom oasis]

when will they ever learn to not release stuff simultaneously

[mellow yoke]

Idk why they release different versions of game content together

[lusty grotto]

it doesnt matter

mop remix wasnt a thing you played the entire time

you just do some dailies in legion remix and then hop on retail

[mellow yoke]

Yeah but

[vale escarp]

Isnt the Power timegated this time?

[lusty grotto]

i mean not "this time"

[high latch]

I don't think it's bad. I just find it weird because their motive is to keep people subscribed, so it would make more sense if they staggered them.

[lusty grotto]

it was in mop remix

its not a serious mode

[mellow yoke]

Its as if they do not want people to enjoy a single piece of content, by the time I do all my stuff in retail, MoP is dying

And they also released phase 5 iirc on classic

[lusty grotto]

youre not supposed to be pushing +300s keys right off the bat

[mellow yoke]

Which dies off quite quickly

[mellow yoke]

Yeah

But if you do not do that in the beginning

[lusty grotto]

classic has a whole different target audience

[lofty warren]

Why is turbo going during remix?

[lusty grotto]

not the same scenario

[mellow yoke]

You are stuck with full on noobs

Cause the good players push in the beginning

You want to push with them

[lusty grotto]

thats just fomo

[high latch]

They are aiming for different types of customers. There are some overlap, but most people pick their fav flavor.

[vale escarp]

Because Turbo is until midnight Release and Remix too

[lusty grotto]

there's no "pushing" in remix

[mellow yoke]

Yeah but one can enjoy more than one piece of content

[lime spruce]

not with that attitude

[lusty grotto]

i was capped in power by playing very little

and very early

[lime spruce]

it's more like push it to the limit, cue 80s montage

[crystal gale]

is worth use priory tome on prot warr?

[lusty grotto]

i could just solo the dumb raids with Ripnimchip

[high latch]

Isn't Midnight releasing middle of next year?

[lofty warren]

Can you fill m+ vault with legion remix dungeons?

[lime spruce]

no

it's a different ecosystem w/ characters set apart for the mode

and the gear is completely different

[lusty grotto]

have looked at our guides in wowhead and icyveins?

[lime spruce]

hard to describe w/o playing it

Legion Remix might as well be its own client

[vale escarp]

Btw have you seen the Legion Remix picture? Just look whats in the bottom (9. December)

[high latch]

Yes, Tome good. There are also some other really good options.

[vale escarp]

Catch Up Opportunities

[lofty warren]

Legion remix can start a brand new toon and it gets scaled to max?

[lime spruce]

I realized why ara kara is gonig to be the bane of my sanity, it asks so much more than other dungeons for dps to have agency for mechanics

[crystal gale]

i ahve it myt on vault slot, and a usless pyory on use, loosing 9k stenght is also worth?

[lusty grotto]

you have to level like 10 levels in remix, and then 10 in retail but it goes fast

[lime spruce]

screenshot the vault or do /simc raidbots topgear

[lusty grotto]

yes

[crystal gale]

choise are tome or myt head tier set

[lusty grotto]

its worth

[vale escarp]

You can level with Remix and get the character to retail If you want, even mid Legion Remix this time

[lusty grotto]

read this #protection message

[high latch]

Myth head is also incredible. So for me it would depend on what trinkets you already have

[lusty grotto]

youll see myth head again

no reason to pick anything else

[high latch]

And you'll see Tome in a few weeks when Turbo Boost rolls around.

[crystal gale]

PAcemaker H and Priory steng h

[lusty grotto]

dont do that, thats not accurate

you gain crit from tome