So I was like this should be awesome right
#protection
warm plinth
We get done making them, they smell so fucking good
There was not one. goddamned. hint. of maple flavor
lusty grotto
hmmm
solid sun
How did it go wrong
lusty grotto
what did they taste like? carrots?
lusty grotto
what did you do, saute them or something?
mortal cypress
How did Canadians discover maple syrup? They go "Joey, eh, that tree is leaking, eh... I'm gonna lick it eh"
*did
warm plinth
I do not know. It was like 5th or 6th grade
Can't remember that long ago
Except that I was scammed
lusty grotto
LOL
solid sun
lol
hard wolf
sorry here you go https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rveNXHPdf9w2ceyyZG4DQj I may be doing something wrong dunno
solid sun
Heckin Bruttus
hard wolf
thats why I stambled when you mentioned antenna>pacemaker for me :/
lusty grotto
antenna is so fucking good its only 0.4% behind it
at a lower track
yes at the same track
hard wolf
got it
solid sun
Is it still over simming btw or is that fixed
remote tusk
What % does Halls need now before 2nd boss?
lusty grotto
79%
remote tusk
warm plinth
Um
Something is wrong with that sim
Why does it say you have a custom apl and that there's an error? And how are you simming sub 1 mil on 5 targets
lusty grotto
sorry here you go https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rveNXHPdf9w2ceyyZG4DQj ...
clean your sim
you dont need the custom apl anymore
warm plinth
Yeah pretty sure that's causing a major issue because no shot should you sim 650k on even single target much less 5
hard wolf
oh ok
hard wolf
thats much better https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jcYWka1WuzpHcs32mGsfVE
lusty grotto
your talents are also ass
warm plinth
Now we're talking
lusty grotto
but ill give you a pass cause at the very least you have Shield Specialization talented
warm plinth
jagged pier
your talents are also ass
i mean thats the wowhead push build
lusty grotto
yeah
jagged pier
so if thats what there comfortable with
warm plinth
I'm uncomfortable with how cute @sweet summit is tbh. It's out of control
ember basin
Guys how does the vault select its items? If I do nothing but clear a bunch of +10 floodgates next week will the vault gods bless me with a myth track pacemaker?
lusty grotto
no
strong forum
random
lusty grotto
its entirely random
out of the complete pool of dungeons
not just what you've ran
ember basin
Thanks. Your answer makes me cry, but thank you.
frosty mango
For m+
frosty mango
Thanks. Your answer makes me cry, but thank you.
If they didn’t do it like this people would only run one dungeon to game the system and it would actively punish people who want to push IO
steady spruce
I'm ashamed on how many times my shield broke during a M+, now i always pack one
ember basin
It’s me. The people is me. I just want my myth pacemaker so bad.
ember basin
It’s wild that the vault is the only way
hard wolf
your talents are also ass
what changes would you recomend? pick up more execute talents?
narrow jay
How much haste do you have you could prob drop heavy repercussions for into the fray but you need like 22k++ haste for that.
lusty grotto
what changes would you recomend? pick up more execute talents?
depends on what content youre doing tbh
hard wolf
right now pushing for 11s-12s and i am at ~21k haste
lusty grotto
use the weekly build with Heavy Rep
hard wolf
still missing good rings
solid sun
The weekly build is the push build if you believe hard enough
hard wolf
true
warm plinth
I believe hard enough
acoustic hearth
at a lower track
but is that sim getting 100% of orbs?
shrewd grove
just cheat in extra talent points
I actually just take every point in the prot tree at the same time. My character is level 120
pallid quiver
you've got a fuck ton more going for you than talent points if you're level 120
you're dodging like every M+ mob attack
frosty wave
How do you check effective block on logs ?
urban portal
hover over blocked hits
lament osprey
Is vulpera the play for race change?
jagged pier
if you think so, then it is
lusty grotto
LMAO
upbeat kernel
Any big brain Prots got a second to help me with a gear choice decision?
shrewd grove
Sim it
mighty valley
Glad you were prepared
mighty valley
dammit, didn't prepare them for the nim post
solid sun
You know that little puzzle thing where one person only lies and the other person only tells the truth
One vault day we should do that for all the vaults
Could be fun!
merry umbra
about that, dont run mythic track tome with brand in high keys, its too much of a stat loss
and its better to use antena
neon elk
What?
merry umbra
you also want to not die right 😄
lusty grotto
how would tome make you die
merry umbra
running it alongside brand is 14k stat loss
neon elk
If u die because u lost 6k main stat u are doing something hella wrong
lusty grotto
what
solid sun
Are you referencing them lacking strength?
lusty grotto
are we discussing 20s here?
merry umbra
well 17-18s currently 😄
neon elk
I would kinda argue the higher u go the more u want tome ,unless u need defensive trinket , which antena isnt
chilly brook
you also want to not die right 😄
yeah so don't die?
press your buttons better
or tell your healer they need to press buttons better
split roost
Oh Christ are we having another argument about tome
jagged pier
in 17-18 its probably about 160kish less damage per second if u take shield spec, which 6k strength isnt going to stop that much damage
merry umbra
alright chaps, aint here to argue, just giving advise
neon elk
But give a good one next time ?
chilly brook
I mean I wouldn't run tome in keys anyways
just because fuck using the trinket again this season
but brand absolutely
mint knot
dear gentlemen, i had cheat death available yet i still got yoinked to death in 1s in dawnbreaker 18. any input here?
merry umbra
But give a good one next time ?
do some research kid 😄
solid sun
Hey why are you trying to be mean. That isn’t very nice
neon elk
U came here to tell us u died because u lack 6k main stat on trinket but im the "kid" thats need to do some research?
jagged pier
dear gentlemen, i had cheat death available yet i still got yoinked to death in ...
well if was available it would have proc'd
chilly brook
do some research kid 😄
my research shows almost all prot warriors at high level are using brand
🤔
merry umbra
U came here to tell us u died because u lack 6k main stat on trinket but im ...
this will do you wonders
jagged pier
im reasearch shows me taking shield spec over bloodbounre is like a 1% dps loss but will stop far more damage than 6k strength
so if u dont want to die yah know, take the talent
solid sun
Does Johnson not take shield spec
jagged pier
i dont know, but guessing so because most ppl are just copying top ppl
which tbf in 20s ive heard they have now started
but who knows
solid sun
Johnson I stg if you are just a novice shield user I am gonna be real disappointed
mint knot
U came here to tell us u died because u lack 6k main stat on trinket but im ...
woah, chill mate
split roost
mint knot
oh nvm, i thought you angled it at me, just now saw it was at the other dude
solid sun
Stand down, Vlad!
neon elk
this will do you wonders
Do u have anything relevant or just pointles personal attacks ?
merry umbra
if you show me a high rio tank running tome i'll personally send you 1 mil
solid sun
I run tome
merry umbra
link
mint knot
well if was available it would have proc'd
neon elk
I dont like the page but here we go, according to archon 8.5% use tome in high keys* highest key done with it was +19, is that high enough?
jagged pier
if you show me a high rio tank running tome i'll personally send you 1 mil
checkamte u didnt specfiy the perameters, heres a high io tank running it, 1 million please
split roost
I dont like the page but here we go, according to archon 8.5% use tome in high...
Doubt it since he doesn't see Kira running it so that means it's bad xd
chilly brook
if you show me a high rio tank running tome i'll personally send you 1 mil
define high io?
merry umbra
checkamte u didnt specfiy the perameters, heres a high io tank running it, 1 mil...
you got me there 😄
chilly brook
Cuz Yoda does on his DH
merry umbra
Doubt it since he doesn't see Kira running it so that means it's bad xd
check the top 100 tanks nobody uses it bro 😄
mint knot
like, this is the first time I get yoinked through cheat death, is it bug or am i misunderstanding how it works dafuq
I was like based, i got BSV and 6s spear to reset stacks, no need to kite, can blast dam
then poof
💀
sharp merlin
That UI alone should get you banned
chilly brook
I still want to know what qualifies as "high io"
jagged pier
might be because the melee took u from 34% to 0 in 1 hit
it should have procced but technically thats not too below 30
thats just death
merry umbra
I still want to know what qualifies as "high io"
completed 17 flood would be high rio
jagged pier
@mint knot #protection message
sharp merlin
thats healer not him
Haha fair but point still stands 😂
lament osprey
I still want to know what qualifies as "high io"
Assuming 3600 plus
neon elk
@merry umbra https://raider.io/characters/eu/twisting-nether/Dannyglover?season=season-tww-3 when should i expect my mil?
mint knot
shouldn't the part of the damage below 30% get reduced by BSV or smth? smh
i guess it's time to start running whenever tacticians get enraged ngl
neon elk
26 rank world in rio , this season, definitely counts as high rio right ?
merry umbra
good job lad you needed 10 minutes to find 1 tank that runs it, exceptions just solidify a point 😄
stone moat
also 2 enraged tacticians in an 18 tend to 1 shot yeah
Wait since when do they enrage
mint knot
well it might only work if it takes u above 0% otherwise it just kills u outrigh...
I feel violated. Now I fear those tacticians even more.
neon elk
good job lad you needed 10 minutes to find 1 tank that runs it, exceptions just ...
Imagine people also doing other stuff meanwhile , anyway, we got from "ill give u 1 mil" to "good job" realy quickly
solid sun
I feel like we’ve had three examples listed
sharp merlin
Examples listed of tanks who run BSV and tanks who don’t?
I’m still running it, was doing 14s just before vacation, haven’t played in 2 weeks, are we supposed to not use it?
round pendant
Don't need BSV for 14s
you can run it if you want tho it's not bad or anything
you just lose some dam probably
merry umbra
Imagine people also doing other stuff meanwhile , anyway, we got from "ill give...
i mean theres probably tanks still using the ranged streets trinket thinking its not fixed, doesnt make it good 😄
sharp merlin
Eh I’ll try anything, will push for 17/18s when I’m back
split roost
I feel like we’ve had three examples listed
He's just gonna keep moving the goalpost, dudes a troll lol
stone moat
Can someone link the enrage I’m on wowhead and don’t see anything
sharp merlin
Currently in Japan, staying in a Monk temple 😂 haven’t thought of WoW for ages
neon elk
i mean theres probably tanks still using the ranged streets trinket thinking its...
Just like using tome and brand doesnt make it bad . And dont try to avoid it , where is my mil? Are u not a man of your word?
frosty mango
This man’s tryna get paid
sharp merlin
Can someone link the enrage I’m on wowhead and don’t see anything
It’s not an enrage, I thought they just put a bleed on you
stone moat
The bleed is the commander I think
jagged pier
@mint knot i asked bigger heads than me looks like server tick bs, cause u get the buff at the end of the clip. but its probably not applied properly
nocturne spindle
sharp merlin
Guessing at a certain level you have to
merry umbra
i mean its a thing in an 18+ , lower than that probably no
stone moat
Yea til
neon elk
Ngl that healers ui looks cursed
stone moat
Also explains why I fell over on that exact pack last week in a 16
merry umbra
the problem is getting trucked by those while having heal reduction
mint knot
<@554419988019281922> i asked bigger heads than me looks like server tick bs, ca...
I feel so bad man, that was a friends key. That was the last danger pull in the route, key was free from that point. Smh
At least I hope to understand what happened so I can work around it in the future.
sharp merlin
Ngl that healers ui looks cursed
Hahaha thought the same
mint knot
In some (rare) difficult routes I'm even proccing it intentionally as part of my defensives rotation
round pendant
Eh healer UIs are always interesting
jagged pier
At least I hope to understand what happened so I can work around it in the futur...
dont get server ticked
mint knot
Ngl that healers ui looks cursed
😂
stone moat
Which pack do people kill during the last boss
merry umbra
u r getting trucked by enraged tacticians with 48 stacks of heal reduction
and nothing else left running
sharp merlin
I thought you just needed to kite by the looks of it
neon elk
Hahaha thought the same
Funny there was discusion earlier today how wow is hard and chaotic for new players and man if that was first wow clip ive ever seen i will just go play different game
mint knot
u r getting trucked by enraged tacticians with 48 stacks of heal reduction
Irelevant, I run 6 seconds spear to reset stacks. Most of the time I don't even need to kite. Worst case scenario it's Spear @~ 40 stacks, then darkness + shockwave + stormbolt/capi 2nd round. There's no 3rd
sharp merlin
Funny there was discusion earlier today how wow is hard and chaotic for new pl...
My job is a UX UI Designer and I just can’t stand having a cramped UI. I made mine pixel perfect based on where my eyes rest on the screen and the info I need as I have to shot call as well for my group.
I have a loooot of info but it’s condensed as hell and easy to read.
mint knot
I had last stand + spell reflect up + cheat death available. Shaman used capi, they landed, parry entropy lovely zero parry they yoinekd me down to 34%, next fraction of a second, bam enraged tactician hit no cheat death proc insta yoink
1.6s death 100-0
neon elk
Yea i can understand complicated ui , but this just looks like mess
stone moat
Which pack do people kill during the last boss
Any1 got an answer for this?
mint knot
ye, I got the route, sec
jagged pier
I had last stand + spell reflect up + cheat death available. Shaman used capi, t...
nah it proc's
at 1%
top right is BSV
u just dont get the buff in time
stone moat
Isn’t 2 hard without lust
mint knot
Take 6s spear for pulls 6,7,9,10 and for extra safety a DH that can put darkness down for you when you ping him. Oh and brand is kinda ass in DB
jagged pier
That’s cool
your healer needs to be ready cause if it takes too long u start getting chunked
mint knot
I'm running antenna + sacbrood in DB
jagged pier
nah u can keep brand up
if your faster enough
tbh DB is a good key for tome no memes if u cant keep brand up
cause u can probably play around having it for all bosses
with cds
jagged pier
merry umbra
interesting didnt rly think of using spear for that, anywhere else it has good use?
mint knot
Yeah, ara kara, floodgate and EDA. I'm using it in these 4 dungeons
EDA it prevents the phaseblades farstalkers and riftstalkers from jumping out, adds on first boss, mites, etc. Huge spear value in there
merry umbra
do u take both talents for spear or just the crit
mint knot
Because you have shadowblades that apply a stacking heal reduction on you with each melee. With 6s spear you can just throw it down, run back 1s like 5yds and they get snapped back by the spear. You can easy and safely reset all your healing reduction stacks in dawnbreaker with 6s spear
Only the extended one, and I keep 90s roar
merry umbra
gonna try it out tomorrow, thanks for the tip
mint knot
stone moat
Holy this is actually good tech
On monk I reset with rop didn’t even think about on warrior
mint knot
Holy this is actually good tech
Like, it's so good in DB and Eda. Idk how much dps loss it is if any
I find this pull hilarious. In all 17+ pugs I've played this key, as soon as I leave the pack I see the entire damn group drop the house on the mobs, full send all CCs. Infamous tank killer pull
warm plinth
Why does it matter that they send cds
urban bane
this sounds stupid but... this overall got me thinking, is there a nice way to tell someone after a key "hey your damage was a little low, it'd be a good idea to look into that" without flaming xdd
undone beacon
“Hey your damage was a little low, it’d be a good idea to look into that”
warm plinth
Well, he knows his damage is low. But yes there are ways to do it, but they're like 99% gonna take it as flaming anyway.
urban bane
i tried saying something like that and it did not go well hahahah
yeah that's fair
cant control how people react
warm plinth
Right. You could sugarcoat the heck out of it and they'd still most likely be upset because let's be real, most pugs would be flaming them no matter how innocuous
neon elk
this sounds stupid but... this overall got me thinking, is there a nice way to t...
"U know, they put OBR into game for a reason, u might be that reason"
urban bane
xD
warm plinth
What level key was that
urban bane
13
urban bane
Dawn
neon elk
Thats not even that low for a priest, wanted to defend him a bit cuz they suck in lower keys but damn
warm plinth
That would've been my second guess
urban bane
And that's kinda the thing if it was like up to 12 i wont really bother but like.....
if you indicate you wanna push above 12s idk
warm plinth
Well especially dawn which is one of the harder dungeons for pugs as you move up
Did you guys time it?
urban bane
yer
warm plinth
Guessing the healer was a god
rancid basalt
Whats the idea behind folk using the Antenna trinket vs tome?
Eg, few people using hero ire and hero antenna vs ire and tome?
neon elk
Idk if there is a nice way to tell someone they suck , sometimes u just gotta bite the bullet and tell them straightforward, they will most likely put u on ignore or call u names but it might help them
warm plinth
Tome is single target focused. Antenna is not. Could be that simple
rancid basalt
What
warm plinth
I don't think you need to tell anyone they suck. I've offered feedback to folks before that was well received
rancid basalt
How is one aoe and one single target?
neon elk
Even if u sugar coat it and put it nicely, ive had tons of people just be insta rude because i pointed out the obvious
warm plinth
Sure but that doesnt mean you should immediately match an energy that doesnt exist yet
rancid basalt
Yeah but you arent taking tome for the damage proc alone?
warm plinth
Be nice and if they don't take it well, leave it and move on
spark patrol
My 720 weapon with ascendance sims higher on both AoE and ST over 723 weapon and crit embellishment in its place. Has any of you encountered similar thing? Does this mean crafted weapon is actually BiS?
warm plinth
I mean the damage proc and the crit happen at the same time so
It's well-known that tome's strength is single target
In aoe it will get outsimmed by other trinkets
neon elk
Like i dont ment to tell them to *** themselves cuz they suck and should uninstal or something xd bust most people will take even a simple "man that dps is bit low, i dont understand your class but go visit your discord and ask around " as hella ofensive
rancid basalt
My 720 weapon with ascendance sims higher on both AoE and ST over 723 weapon and...
Why are you using ascendance as prot?
warm plinth
Like i dont ment to tell them to *** themselves cuz they suck and should un...
Yeah but again, if they take it that way, you still tried and you just move on.
How someone MIGHT react isn't a reason to be a dick from the outset
neon elk
Yea that was my initial point, u just gotta bite the bullet and potentionaly get called names, but if nobody points it out, they most likely never get better
warm plinth
And also definitely tell them in whisper. No one likes being called out in front of others
spark patrol
Why are you using ascendance as prot?
Seems to be the most popular choice for top warriors
neon elk
Yea whisp is defo way there , no need for extra drama in group chat
neon elk
My 720 weapon with ascendance sims higher on both AoE and ST over 723 weapon and...
How big is difference and how long were fights set for ?
rancid basalt
Seems to be the most popular choice for top warriors
Thats because they dont have mythic weapons XD
split roost
My 720 weapon with ascendance sims higher on both AoE and ST over 723 weapon and...
Stat prio can change slightly as you gear, might have something to do with it partially
rancid basalt
Soon as you get myth track weapon, you get your wrists and belt with those embelishments and you are done
warm plinth
A lot of people but ascension on weapon because it was their first or 2nd craft and better embellish than no embellish
Not because it's good but it's better than morning
Nothing
rancid basalt
bis is only bis when you have all the items
Asking why ascendance on weapon sims better than myth track is a dumb question XD
warm plinth
It's not a dumb question
rancid basalt
Okay fair
warm plinth
Can you link the Sim though
spark patrol
How big is difference and how long were fights set for ?
ST was 4 minute, AoE two combinations, one of them was 1 minute, the other one was longer but don’t remember now, I turned the pc off
warm plinth
Or dm it if you dont wanna share it here
chilly brook
this sounds stupid but... this overall got me thinking, is there a nice way to t...
"Hey buddy have you considered using the one button rotation?"
warm plinth
Griff is both late and copycat 
spark patrol
Asking why ascendance on weapon sims better than myth track is a dumb question X...
How come it’s a dumb question when it sims higher
rancid basalt
Because you arent taking into account you arent weapon bis gear
neon elk
ST was 4 minute, AoE two combinations, one of them was 1 minute, the other one w...
Yea okej thats fine , next time u gona sim your char try to sim crafted wep with ascendance vs mythic wep but with threads ( embelishment) on your gear , curently u are siming embelishment vs no embelishment
rancid basalt
So its better CURRENTLY for damage, but once you swap you crafted items and have wrists and belt embelished, then itll be worse
warm plinth
Guys can we read what the man said
spark patrol
Yea okej thats fine , next time u gona sim your char try to sim crafted we...
I added crit embellishment to braces vs bracers with no embellishment
rancid basalt
yeah but that doest matter?
He isnt simming with all bis items?
So like?
What are we talking about
chilly brook
since when does context not matter?
split roost
So don't sim if you don't have bis items? Lmao
warm plinth
We dont recommend embellishments with bis gear. We recommend embellishments. Period.
It's a valid question
neon elk
Yea my bad somehow understood crit embelishent as enchant since we were speaking about wepons
rancid basalt
Seemingly we dont reccomend asce at all
chilly brook
?
rancid basalt
I mean looking at wow head, its not even a suggestion
spark patrol
Really, wowhead?
neon elk
One more question any chance u run now that embelish thst boost ascendance ? Forget name
chilly brook
Really, wowhead?
why are you acting like wowhead is bad?
warm plinth
Why are we getting off track rn
chilly brook
it's literally maintained by our TC
rancid basalt
Really, wowhead?
Thats kap
Hahha
Bro asking WHY acse is simming better, than going to laugh at wow head
Ok
Yall enjoy, im out
spark patrol
I do apologise for asking a question. What a bellend
warm plinth
The man had ascension sim better than recommended embellish. He asked why. We are trying to figure that out but we need to see the sims to get the full picture. If we're not getting sims then it's a waste of time
chilly brook
^^
rancid basalt
Yeah
chilly brook
need the sim
rancid basalt
I do apologise for asking a question. What a bellend
Nah you a bellend for saying "Really, wowhead" XD
Thats all
neon elk
He literaly said he loged of pc and cant send them tho, what else u want ?xd
chilly brook
He literaly said he loged of pc and cant send them tho, what else u want ?xd
he can do so on his phone
split roost
I do apologise for asking a question. What a bellend
Legit though, if crit is simming lower you might've hit a soft cap or something. Idk the value or the numbers for that but I know personally crit started losing value for me just last week
neon elk
he can do so on his phone
If u dont have shared history u cant
warm plinth
You should also sim against vers embellish as well
split roost
You should also sim against vers embellish as well
100%
mint knot
Whats the idea behind folk using the Antenna trinket vs tome?
Eg, few people usi...
In M+ antenna and brand is a GOATED combo. Antenna is not just damage, it's also insane defensive value. When it procs I go up to like 50% crit/parry sometimes, HP bar doesn't move at all.
chilly brook
If u dont have shared history u cant
you do if you are logged into raidbots
warm plinth
Since if you have high crit, that might be better anyway
toxic gyro
I mean hes still not sent them
I mean there’s no reason to give toxic responds. If you don’t want to help just don’t chat in here at all. No one needs ppl like you here.
rancid basalt
I mean there’s no reason to give toxic responds. If you don’t want to help just ...
Which was toxic sorry?
chilly brook
I'm toxic
warm plinth
You did say his question was dumb like, immediately tbf
split roost
Yall need to go outside man holy shit lmao
neon elk
you do if you are logged into raidbots
Och didnt know that, kinda no point for me to have acc there, mb
split roost
Can we go like 10 minutes without someone getting triggered
rancid basalt
Yeah thats rough
warm plinth
I tried to sim from work the other day and was logged out at first and good God
rancid basalt
If i didnt have premium i just wouldnt sim, or id ask a friend to for me
chilly brook
but as it stands right now with current gear combinations there's basically too much to not have premium
neon elk
Not realy , so far i always had a clear vault choice and i tend to play in odd hours, im usualy like 50-100 in que
chilly brook
gem sims alone
neon elk
Are ya all realy paying for that ? How much is it anyway?
warm plinth
I'm not simming gems ever. Screw that shit haha
chilly brook
Are ya all realy paying for that ? How much is it anyway?
cheap af
warm plinth
Each gem is like 1/10 of a % of damage anyway
rancid basalt
like £2,10 or somethin
rancid basalt
Idk, i PERSONALLY dont feel like simming as a tank is worth much
chilly brook
I think it's like $5 at most
rancid basalt
As a dps, simming has infinite value, but as tank not much
chilly brook
I raid on two toons one tank one dps
but also let my two irl friends use my raidbots
so
neon elk
Also might be a dumb take but isnt siming stats kinda superior to siming gems ? And hella easier
chilly brook
no
rancid basalt
No
warm plinth
There's a reason stat weight Sim is hidden XD
rancid basalt
Becuase if you have 8 gem slots
and you change based on stat weights
then one gem changes stat weights XD
chilly brook
meta gems and combinations of the gems make that bad
also stat weights change kinda arbitrarily
neon elk
How many people do have 8 gems slots tho rn?
rancid basalt
Doesnt matter, even with 6 slots it can change
warm plinth
Well, everyone has 6
chilly brook
my monk has 7
neon elk
Like i have 6, one is meta 4, are set to be different color
warm plinth
Like I said though, simming gem combos is min/max af
neon elk
But your monk is rich
chilly brook
nah
rancid basalt
id never bother simming stat weights other than like a fresh toon for first like week of the season XD
warm plinth
Because each gem is literally like .1% damage
chilly brook
just got lucky with a socky helm
chilly brook
id never bother simming stat weights other than like a fresh toon for first like...
they're still useful
but mostly as a tool of where to start with specific sim questions
rancid basalt
Idk a single person in my raid team that sims stat weights XD
warm plinth
I Sim stat on toons im less familiar with to do crafting droptimizer
rancid basalt
yeah thats it
warm plinth
So I know what stats to sim on the crafted shit
rancid basalt
Like a said, a fresh toon or something maybe
chilly brook
good for knowing where you're likely to get the most gain on a craft
chilly brook
granted you could just manually add crafted items with every combo in top gear
warm plinth
And not useful for actually choosing upgrades
chilly brook
And not useful for actually choosing upgrades
correct
warm plinth
I could but I am very lazy
rancid basalt
Youd be better just not using it tbf in 99% of cases
warm plinth
And my laziness wins most competitions with what I know to be true
chilly brook
hence why it's still there
but if you use the wrong tool for the wrong job the problem isn't the tool
warm plinth
Ngl I didn't know the top gear search thing existed until like 4 days ago
Idk how I missed it every time I simmed
rancid basalt
Jesus
warm plinth
I was just salty that they were phasing out gear compare
And then someone was like just use top gear search
And I was like and what the actual fuck is that
rancid basalt
id still rather use gear compare tbf
split roost
Ngl I didn't know the top gear search thing existed until like 4 days ago
It's a game changer
pulsar epoch
what trinkets you guys reccomend me currently tanking 15s
warm plinth
Your trinkets are fine. Tome, pace, brand from raid are all improvements but you have decent ones
pulsar epoch
thank you
pseudo swan
can i get some guidance
i'm torn on where to craft
it sounds like shield for sure for the embellishment, but then from there
any guidance?
split roost
Weapons good too
Sorry I'm on mobile rn lmao ya shield first imo then probably weapon
tribal wharf
i have sort of update on pc, work is partially complete, REALLLLYy would want proper storage devices (m.2's 2.5's 3.5hdds)
split roost
i have sort of update on pc, work is partially complete, REALLLLYy would want pr...
I wasn't gaming before I upgraded to m.2
It's so nice
tribal wharf
one of the 2.5 ssd's in current is stated at like 35% by crystal disk but its 250gb anyways so its useless and old
i would really like to have an almost super star pc
some 4 tb m.2s and 2.5s, and then 2 8tb barracudas
probably more like 2 4tb m.2 and 2 2tb's
i'd say miss me with 5080 but we all know that i dont got the money and it dont exist really anways
solid sun
Any of the homies need any vault keys
ocean dust
out of myth tome, pacemaker, and astral (with avoid), which 2 would you use?
shrewd grove
How the hell would we know? Go tank
lusty grotto
out of myth tome, pacemaker, and astral (with avoid), which 2 would you use?
tome + antenna, if you consider getting the orb hard then just swap with pacemaker, assuming equal tracks
acoustic hearth
why do we not take sudden death?
lusty grotto
because you dont have gcds to use it
acoustic hearth
but no gcds to cast it means
lusty grotto
and because pulls in keys often beat the amount of targets it outdpses revenge
acoustic hearth
but when do u execute if no gcd for it
harsh trellis
On loomithar mythic we have to do 2 web breaks... is there an easy tell for where the orbs will be without moving your camera around
acoustic hearth
On loomithar mythic we have to do 2 web breaks... is there an easy tell for wher...
no look behind u
round pendant
I can't afford to play this game
enchants are 3k each, gems are like 2-3k each
someone clicking a button for me is 10-15k
acoustic hearth
enchants are 3k each, gems are like 2-3k each
thats not that much?
doing ur weekly spark quest gives like 5k kekw
acoustic hearth
I'm down like 130k this season alone
ive made 500k this season off selling m+ boosts lol
round pendant
yeah I don't do that
dunno where to begin, last time I did that was in legion and I just advertised in trade with my buddies
acoustic hearth
there is more than 1 weekly quest / activity
u get like 5k per toon per weekly thing so thats the theater event the awakening machine all that good stuff
special assigneemetn world quests
sick merlin
Ask him to buy you an enchant
acoustic hearth
press execute more
i wasnt sure when bc shield slam and tclap are constantly off cd. i only press execute if both of those are unable to press ya?
round pendant
nope higher prio than SS if you have the rage and it's 6 or less targets
acoustic hearth
nope higher prio than SS if you have the rage and it's 6 or less targets
oh
round pendant
as nome said to me earlier today, execute -> SS is better than IP -> SS
acoustic hearth
dunno who nome is
round pendant
wowhead guide writer amongst other things
acoustic hearth
also by rage for it do u mean 20 or like 40 rage
round pendant
like, same range as when you press IP to avoid capping
acoustic hearth
ah ic
in 6 tar is execute > tclap / execute > TB
my understanding was TB>SS>Tclap so i assume tclap can fuck off but unsure where TB would fit
round pendant
if you're about to rage cap and there's a mob in execute range and you don't need IP (you won't for 10s, idk when you even would tbh)
you can press execute over everything else
BIG dam
acoustic hearth
i see
round pendant
nim can give betterer advice tho I'm too lazy to scour logs 
acoustic hearth
all good
im coming up on my 3rd crafted item, assume i should just craft a chest piece
looking at bigest upgrade long term vs fixing low ilvl stuff i have now
as that just comes from keys
oak ivy
Mythic Forgeweaver question; about how much premit do the adds melee for
not echo but the other ones during intermish
round pendant
im coming up on my 3rd crafted item, assume i should just craft a chest piece
Did you craft shield and weapon?
You prob wanna get wrist and belt with dawn/duskthread on next
and replace shield/sword with myth track from vault if you're lucky enough
acoustic hearth
not echo but the other ones during intermish
acoustic hearth
Did you craft shield and weapon?
yes and i put duskthread on shield
acoustic hearth
and replace shield/sword with myth track from vault if you're lucky enough
been opening vault as fury to avoid first technique but ill start opening as prot
acoustic hearth
You prob wanna get wrist and belt with dawn/duskthread on next
assume wrist bc lowest value item on our gear and cucking its max ilvl is fine
mint shadow
quick question, just failed a gambit 14 bc healer didnt soak second set on last boss, he said warrior usually soaks that set? he left quickly so wasnt really sure what he meant. ive only ever done it under 14 with healers soaking all the boss mechanics
just need to know if i did something wrong
mighty valley
afaik it doesn't really matter who soaks them, it's just best if someone who can move freely does it
having the tank bounce around sounds fucking stupid
also if the healer does it they can pause a sec if they need to
undone beacon
so after a long night of loomi prog
Can someone explain this clip LOL
figured it out, pally bubbled last second and it snapped to me
torpid dome
Huh?
Oh I see, i told him though I would take the antenna in that vault tho, so not sure how he ended up with socket lmao
sinful copper
anyone have a nicer looking WA for when TB is up?
like some nice symbols or something when it's up
hearty garden
hey so im really low ilvl pushing keys and have no issue surviving but a ton of issue with threat is this most likely jsut a gear thing or am i likely messing up my dam rotation
undone beacon
Are you playing Thane or Colossus
sinful copper
man ST is much lower on thane than colossus right?
spark kestrel
anyone have a nicer looking WA for when TB is up?
i usually do the boring standalone spell icon -> scale it up
sinful copper
i want something nice like when killing machine (dk) procs
spark kestrel
ohhh
undone beacon
man ST is much lower on thane than colossus right?
No, thane single target is crazy strong
Once you have 4pc that is
Literally the strongest ST damage tank in the game right now
mighty valley
hey so im really low ilvl pushing keys and have no issue surviving but a ton of ...
depends on the ilvl gap between you and your dps. could be that, could be bad rotation, could be your dps has no chill while you're gathering
spark kestrel
should def sim and then try swapping talents and simming again
icy haven
Does anyone have a pug route for halls? Trying to get 14+ and running into some awkward count
mental scarab
Raider io rout works fine for me 
icy haven
That ones got a triple obliterater pull which is sus, and then all the tiny jumping dudes right after 1st boss causing some deaths
torpid dome
On Eco Dome, these pulls (10, 11, 12), dont you feel there are too many casters in the pulls for your dps to clear them?
tawdry cloak
I have 697 bracers and 675 pants. probably better to fill in the pant slot with my 3rd spark right? I already have 4pc
torpid dome
I would not, pants are farmable
usually we craft shield & weap first and use those until we get myth track weap/shield
After that we switch towards crafted bracers + belt
tawdry cloak
yea but bracers are equally farmable
already crafted weap and shield, this is for my third spark
and if I get myth weap or shield out of vault next week, we'll have another spark I can use to craft bracers to replace the embellishments I have on the weap/shield
sweet summit
dry skiff
i dont think i have ever played a tank as wall as this one
i sucked at predicting the meta xD did DH > brew > Prot pala > and Prot warr apparently is unkillable
hasty flare
goated wa
torpid dome
yeah... Try to get hero pieces to catalyse into a 4-set, 4-set will be your biggest upgrade
torpid dome
for hero pieces you dont need to push 10s ofc, but if you are surviving and timing keys def go with 10s 🙂
sick merlin
Surprised you’re getting in 10s at that ilvl
torpid dome
and getting groups indeed
digital salmon
I never did a m+ in my life and instantly got into a +10 with 0 io and timed it
One of the dps told me what to pull cause I didn’t know how % worked
lunar flower
sus
idle copper
yea but bracers are equally farmable
720 craftable bracers are bis
hearty garden
Surprised you’re getting in 10s at that ilvl
my own key lol
aint gettin invited to nun + wouldnt grief someone elses key like that xd
sick merlin
Ah yeah
somber hollow
Hi, whatever i do on the early 30-ish seconds on each pull on fractillus, brewmaster co-tank keeps ripping my aggro - could anyone tell me what can i improve?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2MvCV6RtBwDkb1KA?fight=34&type=casts&source=24&view=timeline
is this just not enough execute procs
woven scroll
wheres your spear?
opener -> charge/pot/avatar/block -> demoshout -> spear of bastion -> shield charge
and of course, taunt if you want to start xD
somber hollow
at this point i kept taunt just in case he ripped early xd
is spear really this big of a deal? aight, thanks
woven scroll
ye, the correct order makes big difference on opener. and spear bushes all abilities after for 6 sec
pallid quiver
at this point i kept taunt just in case he ripped early xd
is spear really this ...
you might as well ask if avatar is that big of a deal; it's one of your major CDs
lofty glen
how good is shield spec? seeing that alot of the player dropp it
pallid quiver
how good is shield spec? seeing that alot of the player dropp it
Extremely strong; in any content where you're taking damage, it's one of the few sources of block value that you can get that isn't tied to shield ilvl
lofty glen
Extremely strong; in any content where you're taking damage, it's one of the few...
thats what i thinked
woven scroll
you can drop it, if youre just fine on survivability and go for more dps
pallid quiver
Hi, whatever i do on the early 30-ish seconds on each pull on fractillus, brewma...
Also, you're throwing rage gen for zero reason; you start combat with Charge, not Shield Charge
Charge + Avatar is enough to get you shield block before ever touching anything
woven scroll
i guess, theres is no charge in spell q because of the weird hitbox of fractillus xD
happens to me also in few cases..
somber hollow
thanks
yeah, tell me about it - cannot count how many times wanted to get to my mark quicker via leap and boss just spat me down
woven scroll
another question: is someone of you guys on saladhar mythic ? is it possible to survive the tank combo solo on prot war? i do some math for this actually..
jagged pier
Hi, whatever i do on the early 30-ish seconds on each pull on fractillus, brewma...
your over casting revenge
and under casting TB/TC
also didnt press spear on burst for some reason
woven scroll
i dont checked procs, but i guess he is fishing for shield slam on tripple revenge casts?
oh, nvm., he used revenge > tb/tc, you're right
woven scroll
ye, analyzer also says, he is wasting lot of rage cuz of overcap
jagged pier
cause hes spending the rage into revnege that does nothing for thane
woven scroll
except, fishing for ss if nothing else is up ^^
sick sentinel
is it better to get into finance or medical jobs these days
woven scroll
xD zugzug
sick sentinel
doctor will be done by ai>?
jagged pier
alot of it yes, its already better at detecting cancer/ problems off scans
sick sentinel
mabye butu still need humans trained in specialties to confirm the ai
at that point doct ors still using ai as a tool
u cant just rely on ai
vital vale
in ST, is it better to use violent outburst with shield slam or thunder blast?
i figure since it wont affect the blast's lightning strike, its better to use it with slam?
merry umbra
i figure since it wont affect the blast's lightning strike, its better to use it...
I use this as a general rule of thumb, slam < 3 targets, blast > 3 (if possible, dont just afk if u dont have proc)
merry umbra
nah clap sucks ass, just slam the prio target 😄
vital vale
i wouldnt say it sucks ass unless you play colossus
it hits harder than revenge as thane
but i suppose its better to have the prio damage, and leave the aoe for the dpser cleave
to be able to chain faster
merry umbra
yeah upon second look it doesnt suck ass, but its better to focus the prio imo
vital vale
also it seems like that blasts does more damage than slam even without its lightning strike so maybe its better to use proc with it even for st
lofty glen
isnt this the simple way to answer?
steady spruce
Is Keystone guru a good ressource ? Pugs appears very surprised when i follow the "PUG friendly" routes from this website
torpid dome
It depends a bit, some pulls on the pug friendly routes could be very sketch
with kicks
fallen marlin
is there a option in plater to remove names of moobs ?
coz i have problem where the names and hp bar overlap and i cant see
torpid dome
this pull in prio for example, brings quite a big risk for back pulling on the patrol and requires a big amount of kick coordination if you pull everything immediately
white mural
is there a option in plater to remove names of moobs ?
Id look for an m+ player profile, I forgot the popular one I am using but there the names are on the bars I believe
tame jasper
Is Keystone guru a good ressource ? Pugs appears very surprised when i follow th...
Keystone.guru is great to have your route on 2nd screen to not miss anything, esp. when you do new routes
fallen marlin
Id look for an m+ player profile, I forgot the popular one I am using but there ...
i just wanna remove that and dont know how
white mural
i just wanna remove that and dont know how
In that case I can't help, sorry. Perhaps looking at how another profile did it might help. But its more brother some than someone telling you directly how
fallen marlin
true true
karmic plinth
is it better to get into finance or medical jobs these days
finance bc when u get to wfh u can just do keys when its quiet
steady spruce
this pull in prio for example, brings quite a big risk for back pulling on the p...
Agreed ! This one is bad imo
steady spruce
Keystone.guru is great to have your route on 2nd screen to not miss anything, es...
What kind of route do you follow when you're pugging ?
tame jasper
in general left in PSF, preparing right rout for higher keys atm
torpid dome
in general left in PSF, preparing right rout for higher keys atm
same, but I'm assuming you dont do this seleceted pull 4 right?
with 6 casters and the caster miniboss on top of each other?
steady spruce
I try to do the patrol before going to the priest miniboss
high latch
Yeah that pull is sketchy. One thing to understand is that keystone.guru is just a platform for routes. Anyone can upload theirs and anyone can call them "pug friendly". It has both good and bad routes.
What I would recommend is checking several routes and see what most of them do, then fill in the blanks yourself. Or go off a content creator you trust.
steady spruce
I like the HoA but some of the order is straight up confusing
Like going backward after #1 surpise pug, same for #4 to #7
But it make sense considering CD management
high latch
I do a different route, but it's mostly to keep timing of CDs and lust, and reduce RP downtime.
Backtracking after pull 1 there is just to make it easy to get the shard in pull 3 without having to run back up the north stairs and pull more stuff that route doesn't cover.
4-6 is the same. After pull 6 there's RP before you can do the boss, so you do 7 while that's happening.
bleak scaffold
Personally I jump after 1 to 6, then 5 - 4 - 2 - 3 then 7 to let anima go up
high latch
That's similar to what I do. I do that order, but include the mobs in the north stairs in pull 2 on my way up there and also do the extra houndmaster pack as part of 7.
bleak scaffold
Same, before the "nerf" I didn't redo it since last reset so I don't know for %
high latch
Yeah I'm not 100% sure either anymore. Especially now that the slashers are pretty good % wise.
I've remade my route after the nerfs and think it's good, but I wanna remake it again and include a lot more slashers.
steady spruce
Do some people manage to make the first boss of priory with 2 minibosses up to do better cleave damage? ^^'
steady spruce
Personally I jump after 1 to 6, then 5 - 4 - 2 - 3 then 7 to let anima go up
I'll try that it makes more sense
high latch
Do some people manage to make the first boss of priory with 2 minibosses up to d...
No no no. That massively buffs their HP.
You can do that in heroics and whatever, but I would never try that in M+.
steady spruce
ah i thought it only increased the hp of the add, alright
high latch
This is my current HOA route, but like I said I kinda wanna remake it and try to get more slashers in.
torpid dome
usually I do something like this on HOA
steady spruce
usually I do something like this on HOA
How to you climb from 4 to 5 without pulling stairs dudes ?
high latch
I suppose you could invis it, but I wanna know too
Warlock gate would probably work as well
bleak scaffold
How do your group avoids the slashers after 10 LOL, I usually do 4 without it and 10 like Dazzler as there is always a distance to stay on the mob or slack behind and grab it ...
steady spruce
You have to wait but it's stressful
high latch
How do your group avoids the slashers after 10 LOL, I usually do 4 without it an...
I wait for it to turn into stone and keep on the side of the stairs. Then you don't pull the other one.
I am kind of liking how Dazzler does pull 10 though. So I might try that instead. My route in that section after the nerfs feel a bit lacking.
torpid dome
How to you climb from 4 to 5 without pulling stairs dudes ?
bottom stairs only has a slasher, which is periodically in stone
usually we can just pass it
but yeah, doing the alternative, just pulling 3 extra mobs on top also works
in that case I do this
high latch
Ahh, you go the south stairs up. Makes sense. Only loses a few seconds.
steady spruce
oh i see
torpid dome
which gets me up to 100,6%
high latch
Mine gives 100.4, but I still wanna change how I do the section after first boss.
torpid dome
Mine gives 100.4, but I still wanna change how I do the section after first boss...
in principle you do 1 big pull , then you do pull 10
only annoying thing is the evasion of the patrol and stuff
when you do pull 10, you want to pull them and move to the boss arena asap
steady spruce
Do people oftenly lust on last miniboss ?
torpid dome
yes
high latch
Yes
steady spruce
alright
torpid dome
you do that to make sure you're not clearing the entire room
if you have enough dps you can skip his heal or only have 1 heal phase or something
steady spruce
i'll try that
high latch
You pull him far enough away from the big room so his suck can only reach the two nearest packs. Then lust and hope for the best.
Lust after his first suck.
torpid dome
Lust after his first suck.
oh only then? we usually lust on pull
torpid dome
i thought i only needed to los but maybe i'll get him farer
yeah its a combination
LOS and lust
high latch
He'll do his first suck pretty quick, so lusting before then wasted ~10sec of huge damage.
Maybe not even 10sec, but it's a bit of a loss to not wait for it.
steady spruce
Speaking of lust, on the Mecha boss from flood, it's absolutely better to lust and use cd when he's vulnerable right ?
bleak scaffold
"wait" you say ? I'm not great, i'm fairly good i would say. I see people running over the slashers or getting closer as they are in stone form and agroing of course when they turn back ... and they complain that I'm not going fast enougth ... so if I start to WAIT ... OMT ..
bleak scaffold
Speaking of lust, on the Mecha boss from flood, it's absolutely better to lust a...
100% !
steady spruce
"wait" you say ? I'm not great, i'm fairly good i would say. I see people runnin...
yeah lol the stress i feel when i just stand there and feel the judgemental looks of the dps
"shit route tank"
high latch
Sometimes you just get unlucky with the cycles and you stand there scratching your nuts for a little while
bleak scaffold
And the spaming markers ...
high latch
If that happens and you're seriously in control you can adjust your route on the fly, but that rarely saves you any time.
steady spruce
Pugs don't realize they get to play with different tanks & routes when most of us tanks play only with ourselves 😄
high latch
Like I'd rather wait 10sec for them to petrify than do an unplanned pull.
bleak scaffold
That's why i just pull one at the stairs before Echelon
it's rare that both are alive at the same time, so I grab the one is alive and jump at top so they don't have choice than follow:D
high latch
That is what you wanna do if you're not skipping them.
Pulling both may be a good idea now with the new values, but I haven't tried that.
Actually.. You could do that, then skip both slashers before the 3rd boss and instead pull that pack into the boss.
Might do that.
bleak scaffold
Pugs don't realize they get to play with different tanks & routes when most of u...
I mean, everyone as a job, Tank manage the route. DPS hit, kick, follows
Instead of knowing the routes, DPS should focus on knowing the mechanics :x
high latch
Good DPS adjust their CD timing based on the route, so that's not entirely true.
In a yolo pug, sure, but it's not a good thing if they don't know what's gonna happen in the next few minutes.
bleak scaffold
You are right, that's why I don't like full PUG and prefer to play with at least 2 person so you have a bit of shared knowledge
I tried to share the routes at the begining in S2, just got rejected so I stopped. "it's a waste of time"
high latch
That's a good thing to do, but only really helps in higher keys. In lower keys many people don't even have MDT.
It's rarely an issue in lower keys though. I think most tanks run roughly the same routes anyway.
steady spruce
low keys are pugging hell tbf
high latch
There will be small differences, but nothing big enough where you need to hold your CDs as a DPS.
bleak scaffold
Right now i'm doing mostly 10 only so ..
high latch
Then it doesn't matter.
bleak scaffold
It's not small but not high either..
high latch
"High" and "low" keys is very subjective and relative.
Ask Kira and he'll say 16s are low.
bleak scaffold
😄
bleak scaffold
I did few 14s - 15s late S2, almost shat my pants seeing how much damage I was taking lol
steady spruce
Lows are before 10 cause you get the Mythic vault at 10
strong forum
lows are whatever you feel like is low
high latch
Yep. It's very subjective.
bleak scaffold
Of course
strong forum
for americans driving 100km/h is fast
steady spruce
but you start to get better players around 6/7
strong forum
for germans 140km/h is regular travel speed
high latch
Americans don't even know what that means Nome
bleak scaffold
km/h what the f ?
strong forum
80 is crazy!
high latch
🙂
bleak scaffold
As soon as you compare anything to USA ...
high latch
I think the most objective definition of a high key is above the 3k range cus then all you get is more rating and bragging rights. Before then there are tangible rewards.
bleak scaffold
3k is what, full 12 and half 13 something like that ?
high latch
Yeah, roughly
Crest rewards cap at 12s and there's the 3k achievement. After that it's just for the challenge.
bleak scaffold
agree, 12 as more sense overall because the rules change, no affix, higher penalty time for death
The challenge is good though ...
vale escarp
for germans 140km/h is regular travel speed
Thats a lie, most of the Autobahn is 80km/h
torpid dome
Or Brückesshade
vale escarp
At least thats how it feels, drove from Germany straight thought NRW to Den Haag and surely got the higher average speed in the netherlands
torpid dome
yeah currently around Cologne and Düsseldorf there's a lot of roadworks
basically in NRWF in general
vale escarp
Tbh driving in the netherlands feels so much more chilled, in Germany I normally drive like 150-170km/h and always have to check my mirrors + get fucked by trucks taking 2 from 2 or 3 lanes. In the netherlands I could drive 120km/h all the time and had no problems passing Trucks since everybody was driving the same speed
bleak scaffold
I have 2 memories of autobahn, behing passed (smoked ..) by a VW Polo, we were a 150 ... and seeing a large Mercredes break hitting the breaks like hell behind the polo 😄 I don't know the speed but surelly was more than 180km/h 😄
And driving a fù^; renting smart, at 110 the car is already shaking and you can't hear anything else than the motor 😄
Try being passed by a semi in a smart ... you'll feel ALIVE
wanton flax
Myth Tome
Hero Pacemaker
Champ Ceaseless Ire
What 2 to use in m+/raid?
cold pivot
Does anyone know where this weak aura warrior tracker package is from i cannot find it ?
mellow bridge
Well where do you have that picture from
strong forum
Myth Tome
Hero Pacemaker
Champ Ceaseless Ire
What 2 to use in m+/raid?
tome + pacemaker imo
mellow bridge
For raid just sim the appropriate fight length
torpid dome
tome + pacemaker imo
champ brand will probably do more in M+ than hero pacemaker I think
especially since they will bemost likely same ilvl at 704
I'd say use ceaseless ire + tome in M+
Trome + pacemaker in short raid fights ( shorter than 5 minutes)
tome + brand in longer raid fights (5min+)
sick sentinel
i have a test today in linear algebra and im not prepared
i dont know teh material 100 percent
any suggestion?
the class is 2 hard
2 much theory
and equations
torpid dome
well with Maths it's very simple
sick sentinel
and u must know when to use eequation
torpid dome
either you get it or you don't
torpid dome
and if you don't, the answer usually is to study more
sick sentinel
this is past calculus
torpid dome
this is advanced math
I know linear algebra, i did it myself lmao :-p
sick sentinel
ive already passed 4 levels of calc
torpid dome
but the same principle goes,
sick sentinel
you did wut urself
torpid dome
linear algebra was part of my studying curriculum
sick sentinel
for wut degree
torpid dome
Engineering
sick sentinel
applied math here
i will need to take advanced calc after this
if i make it that far
fathom oasis
I'd say use ceaseless ire + tome in M+
Trome + pacemaker in short raid fights ( ...
Pacemaker should be better than tome in m+, no?
torpid dome
Pacemaker should be better than tome in m+, no?
yeah thats why I say to use ceaseless ire + tome in M+
I'd go tome + pacemaker for short raid fights
sick sentinel
so is it better to go to a top 10 university but math degree (much harder) or go to a 'ok' uni but get to tae applied math
applied math was gated by the top 10 university in engnieering soi couldnt take it there
fathom oasis
yeah thats why I say to use ceaseless ire + tome in M+
Ire+pacemaker then?
sick sentinel
i turned down going to a top 10 uni cuz i didnt want math i wanted applied math
but maybe that was a mistake
but maybe it wasnt!
i ask myself that question every day
i mean i can go back
but is it worth it
as iim having trouble in math already
steady spruce
in that case I do this
I did a +10 with this route and really enjoyed it ! We asspulled a slasher at the start so we didn't do the one from #10 and instead brought the 2 adds on the boss
Do you guys have SFP routes to suggest ? Can't find on ei like
round pendant
What's an SFP
frosty wave
Any good brand ire weak aura ?
frosty wave
stacks number ?
jagged pier
Really doesnt matter or impact anything to know what number u on
Tajes 4 mins to get to 15 stacks ish, faster as monk because stagger ticks it too
And it drops q stack every 3 seconds out of comabt
It doesnt effect the way u play what you pull so its pointless to track it
jagged pier
round pendant
I hate fun
bleak scaffold
best day of my life
round pendant
this is what I've been doing
I wish they had like 3.5k reward
or maybe a 3250 reward
I just have no motivation to push rio after 3k
torpid dome
as iim having trouble in math already
I'd try to get some tutorage or maybe talk to a student counceler about this especially btw
signal ivy
about to get my hands on prot warr for m+, what should be the first item to craft?
high latch
about to get my hands on prot warr for m+, what should be the first item to craf...
Shield
jagged pier
I wish they had like 3.5k reward
No point making something for .01% of the player base
high latch
Yeah, unless you have a myth track shield, it's shield for sure.
signal ivy
my gear is full green so its probably the best option :D
and stats probably haste / crit
high latch
Yeah, that's typically the go-to.
signal ivy
its the Everforged Defender, right?
high latch
Yep 👍
steady spruce
https://threechest.io?id=80qbtmene2k
Thanks! 🙂
solar forum
Can anyone with Brand trinket link some logs in a m+? Just curious how much damage it’s doing throughout a dungeon
Lost it to the other tank in my raid this week 🙁
dusky canopy
anybody have a map of the latest dark star placement strategy in heroic
deft mortar
On top of 30M HP, I now also have 30% versatality
undone beacon
Not enough vers
That’s only 15% dr
By the end of the season I expect a full crafted set of vers gear like you’re some kind of filthy PvP gremlin
steady spruce
In PSF, at first pull, how do you manage the shields of the Footmen while remaining kinda stationary for the miniboss ?
jagged pier
The group takes it in turns to cc
steady spruce
So don't do that pull while pugging right ?
torpid dome
its just that if the pugs dont stun, the pull takes longer to clear
high latch
Yeah. It's doable even then, but it gets slow if other people don't use their stops.
high latch
Sometimes it do. Have done that pull around 25 times now I think and it's never been an issue. Just varies how long it takes.
(Yes, still no Tome)
minor lark
Finally got my first N dimensius kill. God a 2/2/6 was solid vs the endless phase 2 wipes
Took longer to find a PUG that didn't instantly dissolve then kill him
round pendant
In PSF, at first pull, how do you manage the shields of the Footmen while remain...
back yourself into the corner near the wall and the staircase, use your shockwave on cd on the shields and hope your teammates cc too
torpid dome
That guy hurty
yep often I notice people focusing the miniboss over the knight
but we need the knight to die faster
brave otter
So I got myth tome from vault this week, do I still put loot spec on prot for opening vault for the chance of hero track ire? Or it's not worth it
torpid dome
back yourself into the corner near the wall and the staircase, use your shockwav...
Tauren STOMP also would be good for this I think, no?
round pendant
probably
round pendant
it's 5 enemies tho so chance it just doesn't hit all the shield guys
torpid dome
it's 5 enemies tho so chance it just doesn't hit all the shield guys
true
high latch
So I got myth tome from vault this week, do I still put loot spec on prot for op...
Yes. Brand is crazy strong even at hero track. I'd stick with prot loot spec, especially if you still need myth shield or weapon too.
bleak scaffold
Tauren here, not great for the situation indeed :/
brave otter
Yes. Brand is crazy strong even at hero track. I'd stick with prot loot spec, es...
So ill prob run hero raid first incase I got rng God with me then opening the vault yeah?
high latch
So ill prob run hero raid first incase I got rng God with me then opening the va...
You can open it at any time. But waiting to pick something is probably a good idea until you've raided.
brave otter
Got it, thanks
steady spruce
back yourself into the corner near the wall and the staircase, use your shockwav...
Just did that, it seemed really easy, but i had a really good group.
Note: Monks are insanely useful in this dungeon
bleak scaffold
the most annoying ones are the shooter as they don't stay grouped and jump around
bleak scaffold
When I can I sure do 😄
solid sun
I was supposed to do keys last night but I went to bed super early instead
So nobody did keys :(
weak cedar
is thane noticeably tankier than colossus? have 4set
round pendant
is thane noticeably tankier than colossus? have 4set
nah
noticeably bigger dam tho
lean furnace
I got myth-track Implacable Weatherproof Treads, which are supposedly my BiS boots you can get from M+. Is it worth burning gilded on upgrading those or should I save it for when the hero-track dinar raid reshi boots come out?
undone beacon
I got myth-track Implacable Weatherproof Treads, which are supposedly my BiS boo...
Reshii boots are not worth ilvl for tanks
round pendant
hero track reshi boots are worse
but it's still worth since that's like yknow, a month away
lean furnace
bet ty all
deft mortar
final form
bleak scaffold
Can you remind when the Vers is applied ? Before/after armor ? :x
strong forum
Correct
deft mortar
rly fkn sucks
On the other hand it seems to for Last Stand
but not for bitter immunity
also not for impending victory
lmao its so shit
hope atleast for IP it does
torpid dome
final form
You wanted all stats except for haste?
lime urchin
Wait what expansion is what is this vers-talk
high latch
the most annoying ones are the shooter as they don't stay grouped and jump aroun...
The trick is for the whole group to stay close together because the Sharpshooters jump to where players are. That way they will naturally group up pretty well.
deft mortar
You wanted all stats except for haste?
I am just health maxxing, doing some vers on the side too
running bolster to have more SB uptime, its very desparate
high latch
I'd much rather go Heavy Repercussions for free SB uptime. Then you have a point to spend elsewhere.
deft mortar
I'd much rather go Heavy Repercussions for free SB uptime. Then you have a point...
good point
Wish ITF and that were separate
high latch
Yeah that could be cool. I am curious how things'll turn in in Midnight with the new talentpoints and stuff.
deft mortar
Feels like with only 12K haste, and no ITF, I'd fall asleep
trying to squeeze in another 6K haste rn
I am happy with vers at 30%
nice round number
high latch
I kinda get that, but you won't really get much benefit from ITF with haste that low. And you can't keep decent SB uptime without at least ~21k.
deft mortar
Let me math it out