Damnit John blizzard!
#protection
warm plinth
You should be fine. Can always Shockwave or defensive if you think it's sketchy at the time
Or leap out
mighty valley
I mean, they're myth bracers with haste, they can't be bad
steep pivot
mmy upgrade this week is 0%¨
dusky canopy
I mean, they're myth bracers with haste, they can't be bad
Only problem with bracer pick is that’s a desirable craft slot
But otherwise ye
Not horrible
round pendant
where do you even get disarmed this season
first boss streets if one of your dps dies?
ornate thicket
yeah thats just it, its my 2nd dawnthread embellish
half jewel
in the dead game mode, pvp
ornate thicket
but i jsut started playing again a few days ago so my bracers are the free story mode rune crest (704) and will be 720 after a few more keys
others options are good gains, but hero track so not long term keepers
weak bronze
So basically switch to thane at 4p or can 2p2p work?
ornate thicket
on wowhead it says to stay collosus until 4p
frosty mango
@lusty grotto are we mythic tome haver friends?
mint knot
Quite surprising bloodborne and ravager generated almost 5k rage, pretty sweet. I consumed about 27.721 rage in this run. Assuming I'd run indomitable without dropping ravager/bloodborne... that'd be around 27.721 / 20 * 250k (25mil hp with indomitable) ~= 350m self healing extra from indomitable. Had 900m healing done, that'd be quite the survivability boost. What talent cooks do we have with indomitable + bloodborne + ravager?
mighty valley
Now calculate how much damage would've been reduced by shield spec
jagged pier
how much extra healing would have provide per second?
u also mean bloodsurge
because bloodbourne has nothing to do with rage gen
and shouldnt be picked as thane
its like a 1% increase
someone simmed it yesterday
mint knot
Now calculate how much damage would've been reduced by shield spec
It’s about 3% phys dr, no?
Hmm
lusty grotto
jesus christ
jagged pier
whats funny is, if u run shield spec
dry skiff
yesterday i proced battle sacred veteran, at the end of a dungeon 2m healed overall
one dungeon later at dawn i felt like i'm ok all the time, 200m healed
any ideas ?
jagged pier
if would probably reduce more damage than they would heal with indom
dusky canopy
I just want Prot Warrior health bar to never move
lusty grotto
shield spec is 5 upgrades x 3 ilvls worth of block value on your shield
round pendant
I was self healing like 2m hps at one point in a key yesterday
mint knot
Shield spec seems fake ngl.
round pendant
well, "self healing" as in the number that showed on details
not real healing innit
round pendant
Shield spec seems fake ngl.
wrong
jagged pier
but your not self healing your putting a 50% absorb on yourself
lusty grotto
not real healing innit
exactly
round pendant
it was funny tho cause I never see numbers that high when I play with my other healer friend
cause he just pads on me
nova monolith
why is it not recommended to craft ascension onto a onehander?
round pendant
god can someone write an essay on why block value is good?
nova monolith
i see everything recommends dawn or dusk lining?
round pendant
why is it not recommended to craft ascension onto a onehander?
because 2x dawn/dusk is better since you'll want a myth track weapon eventually which can't have an embellishment
lusty grotto
why is it not recommended to craft ascension onto a onehander?
because dusk/dawn are better and sim better
ascension is only a week1/week2 embelish
nova monolith
ooooh ok, thanks
lusty grotto
you just remove it with a recraft
round pendant
Was it nome? someone said how not using shield spec is like wearing an ilvl 700 shield instead of a 723 one
numbers-wise
native ember
was hoping for brand but ugh this is what we got what you guys recommend?
marble halo
any opinons? i dont think we use any of those trinkets on prot do we? (i have crafted weap/shield)
undone beacon
footbomb launcher lookin extra speedy
solid sun
Friends
mellow yoke
was hoping for brand but ugh this is what we got what you guys recommend?
antenna op
or myth chest
round pendant
any opinons? i dont think we use any of those trinkets on prot do we? (i have c...
yikes, that looks like a 6x token to me
is antenna good for us?
steep pivot
jesus bro i was readin an very interesting comment
marble halo
yikes, that looks like a 6x token to me
that's rough on an alt, literally first vault
solid sun
yikes, that looks like a 6x token to me
I'm pretty sure you take myth track shield even if you have a crafted shield, not tokens
undone beacon
@lusty grotto Time for the only vault you care about, bear vault!
mint knot
wrong
In that psf I took 2.5B phys damage. Shield spec would’ve saved me ~75mil. Yeah, seems fake to me.
jagged pier
so going indom would have given u an extra 90k HPS i think, but from just the melee alone if u had shield spec u would have taken 185k less per second @mint knot just based off the numbers u gave of 350million more healing u would have got
lusty grotto
<@131897531251556352> Time for the only vault you care about, bear vault!
ty sir bear
undone beacon
As you can see, bear stocks continue to rise
round pendant
that's rough on an alt, literally first vault
oh crafted shield, ig take the 623 one
solid sun
that's rough on an alt, literally first vault
Myth track shield
restive oak
do i not take pacemaker since i mythic raid? 😛
round pendant
I didn't realise til you said it was first vault
mighty valley
that's rough on an alt, literally first vault
what's your tier situation? can probably just take that if it's an alt
round pendant
myth shield myth shield!!
lusty grotto
marble halo
myth shield myth shield!!
wouldnt that be a waste?
dusky canopy
Nim please I’m not reading that
lusty grotto
In that psf I took 2.5B phys damage. Shield spec would’ve saved me ~75mil. Yeah,...
how are you even calculating this, do you know how much 30 ilvls worth of a myth shield is in block terms?
marble halo
what's your tier situation? can probably just take that if it's an alt
thinking about it
vivid spade
is myth signet worth taking for offspec vs +haste/vers weapon when i have crafted haste/vers weapon?
currently waiting on sim and i know myth weapon > crafted regardless of stats, but always hear signet being a sought after trinket for dps (have myth pacemaker/heroic tome)
mint shadow
is the new halls map available anywhere yet?
dusky canopy
wouldnt that be a waste?
Nah I would take the L on shield craft personally
mint knot
how are you even calculating this, do you know how much 30 ilvls worth of a myth...
That talent is about 3% phys dr, no? Napkin math
solid sun
wouldnt that be a waste?
Nah
mighty valley
thinking about it
oh whoops didn't realize that was a shield, yeah grab that to be done with the slot
jagged pier
i mean i just gave him the maths
350 million more healing over 32 mins of 185k less damage taken per second (ish)
slightly less casue crit blocks etc
lusty grotto
here you go, the current k value in myth raid is 4840, so have fun
now calculate block gained by ilvls
jagged pier
i mean it kinda simple u just multiple the blockable damage he did by 16%
mint knot
Cheers
jagged pier
not that there much else in priory to block
lusty grotto
thats not what we are
frank hazel
If I'm reading #protection message right, I have Myth Tome and Hero Brand. I have myth antenna in vault, but would not be worth taking?
solid sun
I am going to need a lot of crayons for this kinda math
lusty grotto
If I'm reading https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/14889794188358451...
yeah sure take it
might as well
frank hazel
that's what I was thinking, thanks
undone beacon
stop trying to make prot warrior a self sustainable tank
Indom now heals 1% for every 1 rage spent
mellow yoke
<@131897531251556352> Time for the only vault you care about, bear vault!
holy W vault
insane
lusty grotto
Indom now heals 1% for every 1 rage spent
lmao
jagged pier
deft mortar
I just need 200K hp to reach my goal
Probably vault tomorrow
nah vault + maxxed out gildeds
If anything even drops
mint knot
Dafuq, stamina trinkets?
deft mortar
Dafuq, stamina trinkets?
2 of them
mint knot
Based
deft mortar
I am also versatality maxxing as a side project
mint knot
You sir are ready to tank 25s.
deft mortar
4 set tomorrow
nocturne spindle
Ur a meme but we still bully you
deft mortar
Nimchip when anyone isn't optimized to 0.02%
lusty grotto
yeah but i contribute
undone beacon
The more stam u have the more indom is worth
lusty grotto
he just posts stamina pics every season
deft mortar
yes
crimson furnace
lusty grotto
good luck
deft mortar
he just posts stamina pics every season
I ALSO USE 2ND WIND 
0.5% of my overall healing in dungeons
very worth
azure crag
hm...probably myth gloves
jagged pier
wep
azure crag
already gots a myth weapon
deft mortar
hm...*probably myth gloves*
think they also wanna see your equipped
undone beacon
yeah but does your weapon whack bones
lusty grotto
then myth gloves it is
undone beacon
i thought not
jagged pier
wep for SMF bants
solid sun
Bone whacking is so in rn
undone beacon
Y'all i saw a fucking fury warr in a 10 streets yesterday running two one-handers without SMF talented
And one of their weps was an agi mace
lusty grotto
lmao
jagged pier
solid sun
and they topped the damage meters
vivid spade
were you playing classic...?
undone beacon
They did not beat bear dps
deft mortar
Y'all i saw a fucking fury warr in a 10 streets yesterday running two one-hander...
probably just copy pasted the talents
just CP capping gives you 2x champ track 2 handers smfh
704 two handers aint that bad
tulip pumice
undone beacon
Boots for tanks incredibly mid
deft mortar
barrier still 10-15% of your healing done I bet
undone beacon
My keyboard just has a PRT SC key that is bound to snipping
dusky canopy
My keyboard just has a PRT SC key that is bound to snipping
That’s actually smart I should do that
restive oak
do i skip pacemaker and just try to get antenna later?
restive oak
normal brand and everything else on heroic
restive oak
champion brand
restive oak
in hopes of getting antenna in coming weeks, or at very latest dinar
lusty grotto
why would skipping pace
restive oak
cuz you're not gonna wear pace/antenna
lusty grotto
give you any more luck getting an antenna
yeah but you dont have antenna
i dont understand this line of thinking
youre betting on something you dont have
solid sun
Why won’t you wear pace and antenna
The antenna might give the pacemaker better signal
vivid spade
unless what you're picking instead is mythic track, "the item you're going to wear with full bis" - the argument is moot, because what you're picking will be replaced, same as mythic pace
undone beacon
The robot has spoken i must run a alchemist stone now sorry mom sorry dad
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gDtow9vNnwVJ5HsHxDQYUj
solid sun
Or something
dusky canopy
Antenna is over hyped man
Wait until you prog soul hunters
Or saladbar or dimi boy
Run away from the orbs constantly
lusty grotto
antenna being good or not isnt the point
the point is
he has a myth track pace in his vault
and he doesnt have antenna
picking one will not block the other
so just pick the fucking myth pace
solid sun
I would pick pace because I agree with both brew and nim
undone beacon
counterpoint, craft an algari alchemist stone
restive oak
how do you feel about stone idol? :p
solid sun
I don’t mind stone idol
lusty grotto
thats why its down in my list with the A tiers
solid sun
I don’t have an antenna so I can’t speak on how the mini game feels
dusky canopy
It’s largely irrelevant and passive
But you will miss on the movement heavy fights
I’m just yapping about it also
lusty grotto
solid sun
I’ve been killed by my fair share of whirling dragon punches, so things that encourage me not to move when I want to move or move when I don’t want to, I value less than other things that don’t do that
dusky canopy
Sac, terror, chest, legs, helm, nice stated piece of jewelry
All solid options
I have reasonable hopes
frozen zenith
hushed harbor
Myth track gloves or myth track pacemaker. I have heroic of both. I gotta go pacemaker, right?
feral heart
anyone have actual miss %s for antenna in myhtic raid? having the same dilemma of myth antenna vs myth tier chest. tier chest sims better 9/10 times unless the fight is like like 3 minutes and well.. that's not real. current trinkets are hero tome/brand
mighty valley
Myth track gloves or myth track pacemaker. I have heroic of both. I gotta go pac...
yeah, pacemaker, unless you already have brand and another good myth trinket
jagged pier
about 20%
hushed harbor
yeah, pacemaker, unless you already have brand and another good myth trinket
hero brand. no other mythic trinks
jagged pier
which u can put into sim
antenna isnt all the hot outside of very short fights for ST
its better than tome for m+ tho id say
same for pace
last scarab
guys can i close my vault and reopen it ?
last scarab
????
lusty grotto
myth track chest
restive oak
he must already have a chest
undone beacon
guys can i close my vault and reopen it ?
Yes you can close the window and open it again
dusky canopy
myth track chest
Noob
undone beacon
The items will still be there
dusky canopy
last scarab
the chest is hero track haha
lusty grotto
oh i thought he meant to recreate it
last scarab
thats what i meant lol
dusky canopy
Brother
lusty grotto
welp i cant tell ilvls right now
dusky canopy
It’s SEVEN ZERO FOUR
dusky canopy
last scarab
but that chest is trash anyways
last scarab
Vers / mastery?
lusty grotto
so?
feral heart
but that chest is trash anyways
whats wrong with that
lusty grotto
more stam, more armor, more strength
jagged pier
sure u dont want 0 of any stat
lusty grotto
and that chest isnt trash at all, its a good pick up if it was myth track
keen anvil
hehehe
keen anvil
I appreciate your sacrifice
last scarab
o7
lusty grotto
yeah i dont care, i need a 2h
dusky canopy
Vault will bless I know it
dusky canopy
🔮
lusty grotto
as soon as i get a 2h, i can probably start doing prot vaults
well and dimmy trinket
undone beacon
Nim on the dps grind for his team, how noble
round pendant
same I got one on pwar and rogue
hoping to get a shield or tome in my vault
or tier piece
jagged glade
is a Myth track belt better than DISC for raid?
mighty valley
it's better now and it'll be even more better when disc is nerfed
dusky canopy
Isn’t it nerfed this week?
pallid quiver
i already got 2 myth paces
I have a myth Soleah's
and that's it
maybe when i get home vault changes that
fluid merlin
Myth tome or hero brand (I have hero tome and champion brand already)
fluid merlin
oh nice thanks
lusty grotto
can you obtain myth tome anywhere else?
fluid merlin
nope ur right
lusty grotto
its a pretty easy decision
fluid merlin
ty
plush tendon
Nim's loving his copy and pasta for Tuesday
cant choose from my vault until I run HM and first boss mythic
have Myth chest or shoulders
lime spruce
round pendant
STOP
lime spruce
🫦
round pendant
You guys are stealing my tomes!!!
lime spruce
You guys are stealing my tomes!!!
lime spruce
this is true
plush tendon
lime spruce
wives are negative EV
plush tendon
GFs, wives, and FWB are the most dangerous affix
many gamers lose weeks of potential IO
truly sad
mighty valley
women can play world of warcraft
pulsar epoch
guys is idol trinket good for prot dmg ?
lime spruce
women can play world of warcraft
lol get a load of this guy
remote tusk
lusty grotto
guys is idol trinket good for prot dmg ?
check in the wowhead guide
plush tendon
celebite AF
undone beacon
women can play world of warcraft
Same sentiments apply, their wives, GFs, and FWBs reduce their IO.
plush tendon
its why her IO is so high
obtuse pagoda
Is Codex of the First Technique trinket from mega dungeon worth running at all at all? my options from vault or that on myth track and a myth track shield ( which i could also just craft)
undone beacon
We are allies here
undone beacon
Is Codex of the First Technique trinket from mega dungeon worth running at all a...
Simply, no
plush tendon
yea, I dont discriminate
gamer girls also lose IO from thier loser jock boyfriends
smh
forcing them to do stuff outside
yuck
mighty valley
Same sentiments apply, their wives, GFs, and FWBs reduce their IO.
alright this polycule has got to focus up if they're gonna get title this season
lusty grotto
Is Codex of the First Technique trinket from mega dungeon worth running at all a...
its 500% garbage
undone beacon
alright this polycule has got to focus up if they're gonna get title this season
Fuck yeah the key push group that also fucks on the side like, we stan that
Ideal
icy haven
do we know the new HoA mob locations?
plush tendon
did you know that over 40% of marriages/relationships that end are due to finances
the other 60% is due to lack of IO
lusty grotto
well shit
strong forum
and 69% of divorces are initiated by the woman!
round pendant
(I play rogue btw)
lime spruce
and 69% of divorces are initiated by the woman!
that's why the keyholder gets 2 votes
plush tendon
and 69% of divorces are initiated by the woman!
women are sick of their man causing them to lose IO
good on them
undone beacon
18 naked cowboys at ram ranch… they only need two more for a mythic raid team just saying
neon elk
Na fellas, first impresions of new hoa nerfs ?
lime spruce
18 naked cowboys at ram ranch… they only need two more for a mythic raid team ju...
how you gonna make a raid team with 18 boomkins
plush tendon
anyone have the updated map yet?
strong forum
what map
tulip remnant
I’m assuming Halls
plush tendon
they removed trash in HoA
plush tendon
I wanna see where they removed stuff
strong forum
ah
icy haven
apparently 1 oblit removed at each shard
tulip remnant
It’s been over 32 minutes and yoda has no video up
plush tendon
Home Owners Association
naw, the HoA doesnt start till housing comes
round pendant
dude's slacking
dense cradle
lime spruce
naw, the HoA doesnt start till housing comes
imagine joining an RP server to manage a fantasy HOA
round pendant
lime spruce
absolutely maidenless behavior
tulip remnant
I’m so ready to see the shade that comes with house decor choices
New pug requirement, link your house
lime spruce
I’m so ready to see the shade that comes with house decor choices
I don't think the wow community really understands yet how insane people are gonna go over this shit
there is a breed of player that doesn't even subscribe yet that's about to
round pendant
I'm not even going to touch housing
plush tendon
yo, this kid is a World First Raider, has title, glad and everything
but his house sucks
what a nub
tulip remnant
what a nub
Benched
lime spruce
@Asmongold
undone beacon
My house is about to become a goblin trash pile ala undermine
lusty grotto
i think thats way too far unhinged
undone beacon
And one room as a bear den
lusty grotto
that being said, gold paying for house decorators is gonna be popping off
has a very healthy economy in FFXIV
neon elk
brother its a work day for us in NA
Excuses
broken crater
fixed -- worth noting that talents cant be seen because your logging started too late (combatant info is missing)
lime spruce
has a very healthy economy in FFXIV
housing
FFXIV
healthy economy
pick 2
lusty grotto
especially since WoW houses are expandable without under-map glitches
round pendant
HOLY fixed already
tulip remnant
I refuse to make any house remotely Druid themed…no one beats furry allegations after that
lime spruce
reading comprehension
zug zug
lusty grotto
i didnt say shit about the lottery garbage or the mega guilds holding plots
undone beacon
I refuse to make any house remotely Druid themed…no one beats furry allegations ...
If you play a Druid at all you ain’t beating the allegations champ
Comes free with the class
broken crater
HOLY fixed already
good old nullcheck 
tulip remnant
Comes free with the class
Honestly fair, but you can at least argue it without the matching house lolol
undone beacon
Thus why my house will be a goblin trash heap
With a little trash cave for my trash bear
lime spruce
Honestly fair, but you can at least argue it without the matching house lolol
nahh the house is just a beard
solid sun
Do we know if our characters will share a house
lime spruce
if it's not furry themed for a druid
plush tendon
you now, dependng on what they remove... this pull might be the play off the bat
solid sun
Or if each character gets a house
plush tendon
the OG first pull right might be easy enough without lust now
round pendant
good old nullcheck <:sadge:820202363359854633>
it's a classic
undone beacon
Goblins have dingy apartment buildings
tulip remnant
The human skin tents go crazy
prisma vortex
Does anyone know how it works with upgrading myth track weapons, IF i get a 2 handed weapon myth track and fully upgrade it, can i upgrade BOTH one handed and shield for free with just valorstone?
tulip remnant
Goblins have dingy apartment buildings
Goblins should be able to just run a casino. Who needs sleep when you can make money?
harsh musk
do you guys use any gear with mastery on at all or jsut avoid it as much as poss?
plush tendon
do you guys use any gear with mastery on at all or jsut avoid it as much as poss...
mastery is not bad
you want to prio haste till like 25k, and then sim the other stats
finite cedar
Any opinions on LFR antenna vs hero track Ceaseless Swarmgland?
harsh musk
i have a crit haste normal track ring but a haste mastery heroic track
lusty grotto
Any opinions on LFR antenna vs hero track Ceaseless Swarmgland?
sim
plush tendon
i have a crit haste normal track ring but a haste mastery heroic track
sim
undone beacon
lusty grotto
i have a crit haste normal track ring but a haste mastery heroic track
wear hero track
finite cedar
bet
undone beacon
uppies?!!?!
harsh musk
is there a % aim for crit at all?
lusty grotto
Does anyone know how it works with upgrading myth track weapons, IF i get a 2 ha...
yes, just make sure you equip it as arms and relog
undone beacon
lusty grotto
is there a % aim for crit at all?
no theres no goalposts
pastel summit
hm how do you do defensive cds for tank busto on nexus prince 
undone beacon
Shield wall and spell reflect?
lusty grotto
ok im about to bust those vaults wide open
undone beacon
uwu
lusty grotto
starting with babby dh
undone beacon
The one that matters mmhm
primal crypt
fixed -- worth noting that talents cant be seen because your logging started too...
I see
lusty grotto
yeah pretty much
plush tendon
I also got shoulders on my DH
lean furnace
what do I use my second craft on? just crafted shield the other day. my weakest gear pieces are my chest (678) and wrist (680). I'm told I should do the weapon. is that true?
primal crypt
fixed -- worth noting that talents cant be seen because your logging started too...
I wonder if "simple logger" addon isn't starting soon enough
nocturne spindle
whats your weapon to be clear
lusty grotto
right augusto but he has 680 wrists
plush tendon
right augusto but he has 680 wrists
eh, theyll be replaced quick
lusty grotto
no they wont
plush tendon
regardless, by next tuesday, hell have both waist and bracers
lusty grotto
he has 3 sparks
thats what we're at
why wouldnt he craft bracers
wrist pool isnt massive
and there's not a bracer in the game that outsims crafted
plush tendon
he can do bracers and belt in whichever order he wants
by next reset, he will prob do both
nocturne spindle
giga crit ring but id have to like catalyze my fucking boots to not drop to shitty haste levels
lmao
round pendant
I'm sick of how I can do 2 weeks and never get a single spark from m+
I have to do some dogshit weekly
plush tendon
giga crit ring but id have to like catalyze my fucking boots to not drop to shit...
making every FDK wet right now
round pendant
every time
plush tendon
the lack of mastery/crit stuff this tier is actually insane
making it real hard to gear my offspec FDK
round pendant
this is the one week you cant complain
good thing I'm talking about the last 2 weeks then
nocturne spindle
then complain last week smh
lusty grotto
alright lets see
lusty grotto
jesus fucking christ
BLIZZARD I NEED A MYTH WEAPON
not this garbage
i guess i pick for fury
lusty grotto
same old
plush tendon
you sure its not socket angle?
lusty grotto
idk sacbrood is pretty good for fury
omega too but only hero track
belt is pretty good
rest is garbage
duskblaze is decent but i dont think i would pick
lusty grotto
none im planning to change for a sacbrood
nocturne spindle
sacbrood sims suprisngly well for single target
lusty grotto
this is a fury sim angle vault
nocturne spindle
probably good for the shorter raid fights over brand
lusty grotto
not gonna pick for prot at all
plush tendon
mighty valley
sacbrood will be pretty good for fury for me when i can offload some of this 28k haste
lusty grotto
but yea
mighty valley
part of me wants to craft a hasteless jewlery piece
round pendant
that's psychotic
mighty valley
but the second i do that all my myth vault stuff will have no haste
plush tendon
maybe choose after raid?
one of the raid trinkets on heroic is prob better then Sac?
lusty grotto
yeah i will probably do that
broken crater
I wonder if "simple logger" addon isn't starting soon enough
drop that addon, use mrt or Rio instead since you likely have that anyway
plush tendon
I actually didnt realize that Sacbrood is number 4 for Fury
still, if you get trinket off first or third boss, youd prob use that
I bet first 2 are 100% puggable this week
fluid merlin
Man I just got Myth tome and hero brand from raid dropped for me guess im a prot main now
lusty grotto
im running the reclear with the guild
so idk if im gonna get stuff, if it drops we will see
primal crypt
drop that addon, use mrt or Rio instead since you likely have that anyway
sounds good
icy haven
If theyre all at same ilvl, is best m+ trinket combo a brand and antenna?
lusty grotto
brand is a hard lock
the other one is a toss up between antenna/pace/tome
which is also your flex slot for nucleus
if you need it
so whatever you prefer
icy haven
Because theyre all close in sims?
lusty grotto
all of them have specialize in different situations within a key
tome is huge for prio targetting and bosses
the other two are good for overall
icy haven
I see, so probably tome on streets then
lusty grotto
streets can be also bad for brand
neon elk
I wouldnt realy say its a per dungeonc choice
lusty grotto
so yeah you can mix and match
neon elk
For tome i mean, more like adjust based on your team
lusty grotto
yeah Lommatik isnt wrong
round pendant
there's no reason I can't mix-match dawnthread and duskthread right
sleek mulch
anyone know if MDT is updated for HoA changes?
undone beacon
I really booted up discord and it went "We have custom themes now!" and showed me this
what the frick
lusty grotto
lol
sleek mulch
that is bright and awful lol
round pendant
but im guessing sims like x2 of the same more
yeah I just have the vers one stuck on my shield from like s1 that I always forget to remove when I recraft it
lusty grotto
anyone know if MDT is updated for HoA changes?
doesnt seem to be
and i have the most current version
MDT devs are EU
so
it'll be a bit
round pendant
I might get the speed enchant on my wrists
yknow what tho, I wonder if the avoidance enchant works out to be more mitigation than the leech?
anyone done the maths on that?
nocturne spindle
for us?
i dont think theres any aoe hits that really hurt
avoidance is specifically aoe reduction right?
lusty grotto
yes
round pendant
Yeah
round pendant
shards, bloodguards
lusty grotto
you literally only fight one
round pendant
speed might be nice for m+ just for that slightly faster movement
but I'll just go leech again ig
tribal wharf
I really booted up discord and it went "We have custom themes now!" and showed m...
bro got that wolfenstien 3d menu theme goin on
lusty grotto
prot
undone beacon
Do you have a tome, brand, weapon, and shield all at myth?
undone beacon
Prot time habibi
lunar flare
There's my boy
tribal wharf
mien leben
agile cairn
welp mythic teir hands, mythic shield and tome
lusty grotto
fuck it i picked the sacbrood, with my luck im probably not gonna get shit this week from raid
agile cairn
gg guess im simming for the rest of my life
lusty grotto
welp mythic teir hands, mythic shield and tome
your answer is #1
hope you got a crafted shield
agile cairn
i have mythiuc antenna and hero brand
agile cairn
thinks it worth swapping brand for tome
lean furnace
focusing lens or ascension for a crafted weap??
lusty grotto
nothing
lean furnace
ohf r?
lean furnace
ah tru
lusty grotto
those are your 2 embelishments
agile cairn
hear me out tho we are killinmmg mythic loomithart already and its a matter of time for the drop
fuck me
undone beacon
Well then you can wait for raid and see if it drops and you get it
lusty grotto
just hold vault
if shield drops, pick tome
just to have it
if shield doesnt drop, pick shield
yeah what Pash said
honestly you have both myth shield and myth gloves available on your kills so tome is the only one that you cant actually farm
just hold it until then
would you use it over your combo? it depends, you certainly would for raid
and for keys it depends
agile cairn
i chain pujll craqzy i sit like 15 stacks on brand the whole key
probs wouldnt swap it ? idk
ill havew to sim
lusty grotto
not brand
antenna
thats your swap
tome will beat it in ST though, so you do want it for raid
prisma vortex
yes, just make sure you equip it as arms and relog
so that would then save me the gilded crests for upgrading the shield correct?
lusty grotto
ive mentioned this before but hero brand or higher is a hard lock
lusty grotto
so that would then save me the gilded crests for upgrading the shield correct?
yes
2h as arms applies discounts for both fury and prot
prisma vortex
cool thanks! suppose if vault is giga shit with a 2h i can always take that
lusty grotto
free uppies to 1h/shield and offhand 2h
prisma vortex
thanks!
lusty grotto
right but
why would you not want a 2h
if youre opening as dps
you would be opening as prot if that wasnt the case
prisma vortex
im opening as dps for trinkets
lusty grotto
why
prisma vortex
got tome and brand already
lusty grotto
oh
prisma vortex
xd
lusty grotto
ok then youre fucked you do want to open as prot
plush tendon
if hes myth raiding, he'll get the crit/haste one from 3rd boss soon enough
lusty grotto
id like to join your raids where everything drops all the time
tulip remnant
Blizzard can sense your hubris
solar forum
After garbo vaults past two weeks, got myth track grievous blade today!
next bramble
hi all are the boots that boost the reshii wraps better than any other ones even if on veteran ?
solid sun
I’m going to eat hot wings for lunch
lusty grotto
hi all are the boots that boost the reshii wraps better than any other ones even...
no, hero are better
lusty grotto
After garbo vaults past two weeks, got myth track grievous blade today!
gz!
next bramble
no, hero are better
thank you
obsidian girder
Hey folks, what was the haste limit to use into the fray in dungeons?
lusty grotto
21k
obsidian girder
Ty
lusty grotto
thats the recommended minimum amount of rating you need to play it
otherwise its heavy repercussions time
obsidian girder
Yep, was unsure about the amount. Thanks for clarification
solid sun
Apparently there’s a guy in EU who sets up runs to kill Dimmy on Heroic to help people get aotc and he solo tanks the encounter
I didn’t even know that was a thing
I can just tell my group I’m solo tanking him
Because that’d be kinda sick
mellow bridge
it's a bdk if it's the guy im thinking of
lusty grotto
I didn’t even know that was a thing
perky pugs does it
mellow bridge
he does it every single season if it's doable
hundreds of endboss hc kills at the end of the season
lusty grotto
there are 2-3 groups in NA that do it
perky pugs is done also a group that kalamazi joins in
yeah sorry, not specifically solo tanking
solid sun
Very interesting. I just assumed if you didn’t tank swap you’d get smoked
solid sun
I can tell you that as someone who dabbles in monk
In keys, you can definitely fly too close to the sun
If you suck
And pull too much
It’s great
I was going to dabble in bear
tulip remnant
I decided to play bear and have some regrets with it
solid sun
But my good buddy Nimchip revealed the true nature of bear players
tulip remnant
As I’m now gearing both prot specs and brew
lusty grotto
dotc is super fun though
solid sun
I think the best thing about bear is you can give yourself one of the brightly colored skins
tulip remnant
dotc is super fun though
If I raid tanked I’d be happy with it lol. But irl scheduling makes raiding hard.
solid sun
And then you don’t need a marker over your head
lusty grotto
its ok
solid sun
Well, rarely
solid sun
Can they become fire owls or is that only the mount
tulip remnant
Got my bear to 710, I’m trying to finish the push to 3k, and I’m probably not going to touch it for a while
lusty grotto
Can they become fire owls or is that only the mount
both
pine lotus
@lusty grotto Is it true that warriors mitigation scales better than other tanks? Even tho they are already super tanky, someone told met that and wondering if true
pine lotus
@solid sun pls see above 😂
tulip remnant
Prot war is essentially mega aggron, If you’re cultured like that
solid sun
Block is super powerful. Powerful enough sometimes blizz says “you can’t block these things”
And when that happens we are really sad
plush tendon
There arent really any tank that scales better then the others
noble mountain
New to prot in m+
For a really dumbed down version of dealing dps am I just spamming thunder blast/clap and shield slam while using rage on shield block and IP?
And only revenge with free procs? I think I read somewhere that we want to revenge once at the start to apply a dot or debuff?
tulip remnant
New to prot in m+
For a really dumbed down version of dealing dps am I just spam...
Very rough. But that’s the gist
The clappa and profit
plush tendon
yea, the basics of prot are to press your generators on CD and to not overcap rage
Revenge is last prio
noble mountain
We don’t want to open with revenge at the start? Or if we get a free procs?
plush tendon
dont open with Revenge
noble mountain
Open was a bad choice of words, I thought it applied a dot or something that we wanted to get on there near the start
high latch
New to prot in m+
For a really dumbed down version of dealing dps am I just spam...
Mostly, but we don't only use rage on SB and IP. If you have a GCD available, it's better to dump with Revenge or Execute. It's just that as MT we have so many GCDs filled by Shield Slams and claps that we can't hit those very often.
MT doesn't care about the free revenge proccs either
noble mountain
Oh that’s good to know about the free procs, I’ll stop tracking them lol
So the dot revenge applies is not important?
I don’t remember the name of it
high latch
It is, but it'll happen naturally as applying it is lower prio than SS and claps.
Deep Wounds
plush tendon
Deep Wounds is applied by Revenge and Devestator
but its not something worth thinking about
noble mountain
Awesome Ty 🙏🏽
solid sun
Don’t forget to face your enemies
Giving them your back means you can’t block their attacks
Making gathering the hardest part and it will take the most practice
noble mountain
That goes for all tanks right?
high latch
Druid don't really care, but most tanks do, yes
mighty valley
it affects 100% of our mitigation so it matters more i guess? but yeah. good practice for all tanks
high latch
Yes, you definitely don't want to ignore their position totally. But bears don't get insta killed if they get a few mobs behind them fora couple of seconds like other tanks.
plush tendon
it matters for basically all tanks
high latch
It does.
primal mason
Upgrading from last season diamond, would you guys chose a heroic logic gate alpha or a champion band of the shattered soul? Hard to figure out how useful the reishi wrap cantrip is?
plush tendon
Upgrading from last season diamond, would you guys chose a heroic logic gate alp...
sim angle
mighty valley
i wouldn't drop ilvl for that effect
plush tendon
regardless, either upgrade is temporary
mighty valley
life is temporary
plush tendon
i wouldn't drop ilvl for that effect
tbh, its not like you will upgrade the hero track beyond 704
lusty grotto
myth diamond tends to sim very high
plush tendon
Hero and Champ track gear are basically the same in that regard
solid sun
I was going to say that!
lusty grotto
just a heads up
solid sun
I had to clean my hands from hot wings sauce dadgum it. Harrow too fast
lusty grotto
but its not worth dropping to that ilvl for it since it bugs out regularly
plush tendon
and the Demi ring has a lot of haste on it
mighty valley
tbh, its not like you will upgrade the hero track beyond 704
fair
plush tendon
reality is... its probably a long term socket angle regardless
unless you really struggle getting myth vaults
lusty grotto
you will if you havent gotten good myth rings
and/or if everything else is higher prio for picks
lusty grotto
<@131897531251556352> Is it true that warriors mitigation scales better than oth...
i wouldnt say that
at least not nowadays
mighty valley
"my spec scales harder" is a 20 year cope at this point
lusty grotto
we tend to have crafted shields pretty early, and the only thing that can boost it up is a myth shield which is 3 ilvls higher
plush tendon
Like bdk really does struggle to live in higher keys
thats a whole differnet problem
lusty grotto
IP goes up with AP/strength/stam, slightly, thats about it
solid sun
I think it just means by what we mean with that question
plush tendon
I will say though; baseline Prot War at the start of a new expansion
kind of goated
lusty grotto
reminds me of "fury scales better late expansion"
plush tendon
but thats for like... 2 weeks
jagged pier
I will say though; baseline Prot War at the start of a new expansion
until ppl notice u can live with prot pala
strong forum
<@131897531251556352> Is it true that warriors mitigation scales better than oth...
every tank gets the same out of ilvl as the gains are linear, the only time "gains" are non-linear are tiersets and buffs/nerfs
plush tendon
until ppl notice u can live with prot pala
too true
Prot Pal was miserable until it got a little bit of haste. Then was totally fine
strong forum
total amount of stats have NOTHING to do with how well X performs
jagged pier
and who calls it week1 prot pala will be meta, and gets shot down everytime, and told im wrong because top io ppl are saying warrior is bis
lusty grotto
strong forum
BDK is by design a bad m+ tank
lusty grotto
its a better game because of it (the scaling thing)
plush tendon
BDK is by design a bad m+ tank
strong forum
the only time it wasnt a bad M+ tank is when it was blatantly carried by tiersets or some other unique overpowered factor
Pwar by design is a good M+ tank because of % mitigation
jagged pier
I think you mean BDK is bad by design.
strong forum
well currently yes
jagged pier
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obtuse ledge
am i supposed to be able to get shield block's cd down to 8 seconds?
obtuse ledge
ohhh okay mb
lean aurora
n00b question: In Nexus King, you taunt while the ability is being cast on the other tank, and after the cast the boss turns his attention to you.
Is that normal? I've always assumed if you taunted during a cast, it'd screw things up. I always waited till the cast was over.
plush tendon
n00b question: In Nexus King, you taunt while the ability is being cast on the o...
you taunt during the cast
bronze wraith
Is codex of the first technique trash?
strong forum
absolutely garbage yes
jagged pier
n00b question: In Nexus King, you taunt while the ability is being cast on the o...
depends how the cast is coded, but for nexus king thats normal
lusty grotto
n00b question: In Nexus King, you taunt while the ability is being cast on the o...
that is correct, similar to loomi (and rashanon amongst others)
strong forum
Is codex of the first technique trash?
literally makes you weaker and take more damage
instead of just using a normal trinket
solid sun
Is codex bad for all tanks
strong forum
yes
jagged pier
yes
plush tendon
its super garbage tier
lean aurora
Ok - so for any new raid boss you've never encountered - just assume you can taunt during the cast? This is blowing my mind.
solid sun
It’s listed as b tier on the Ppal trinket tier list on wowhead
bronze wraith
I should take soulbinders embrace than? I got codex for my first mythic item and soulbinder's embrace on heroic intervention my zult
lusty grotto
Ok - so for any new raid boss you've never encountered - just assume you can tau...
dont assume that no
solid sun
I expected it to be f tier
strong forum
maybe andy based it on SL performance
plush tendon
well Paladins are silly people
strong forum
but they turbo killed the trinket
(thank god)
it can only absorb 1.4mil total per proc now
its not longer per hit
might be a better trinket
bronze wraith
Is heroic soulbinder's embrace worth taking over vet brand of ire?
lusty grotto
dont think so
lean aurora
dont assume that no
I guess this is what Normal raid is for. To figure that stuff out without wiping your raid and everyone hating you.
strong forum
thats a sim question
plush tendon
I guess this is what Normal raid is for. To figure that stuff out without wiping...
tbh, I took all 4 of the tank hits on heroic Nexus King 2 weeks ago
and I didnt die
lusty grotto
I guess this is what Normal raid is for. To figure that stuff out without wiping...
the only 2 bosses this season that do that are Saladbar and Loomi
last season was sprocket, season before that was Rashanon, DF was Rashok etc
lean aurora
Loomie's frontals in Phase 2?
lusty grotto
yes
plush tendon
tanks have quite a large margin of error in normal and heroic
heck, even early mythic
lean aurora
Sprocket did that!?!
That would have made life so, so much easier to know lol
Ty all.
lusty grotto
yeah but
on sprocket you didnt have to speed it up
cause it wasnt combo hits
so you could just do whatever
gally also if im not mistaken
and Rik
i could be misremembering lol
fairly certain Rik was one
solid sun
Assuming we get through the first six bosses primarily without issue, I can’t wait for Saladbar to farm us tonight
lusty grotto
damn
plush tendon
We can’t kill the self destruct adds fast enough
chilly brook
Ok - so for any new raid boss you've never encountered - just assume you can tau...
Yeah totally do that on soulbinder
lusty grotto
on platforms until they are even
obtuse ledge
why does pressing shield slam smack them with my sword
obtuse ledge
yeah it pushes them with my sword lol
frosty mango
Mine is pretty clearly a shield animation lol
lusty grotto
cause the shield hits, the sword is just moving because the model is pivoting
wtf race is doing that then
im a dwarf so idk
obtuse ledge
let me see
obtuse ledge
cause the shield hits, the sword is just moving because the model is pivoting
lol okay this was it
and im human so it barely showed the shield moving
looked like the sword was being thrusted
cuz the turn
and the shield was just being moved out of the way
lemme see if i can make a gif
nocturne spindle
my gear has decided i will get lots of crit
nocturne spindle
havent seen any yet
sharp gale
And open mdt mid combat near the end
solid sun
Yes
sharp gale
Exact same feeling as opening a map while driving
warm plinth
i need a quick updated route
79.61% (371/466) before Echelon (assuming no gargoyles in 3rd boss room).
Both left shards are short 5 count
Right shard pull is missing 1 count
Middle pack in front of boss is missing 5 count
You need to make up 12 count if you used to pull the patrol up top.
Gain 5 count per slasher that was already part of your route
Ezpz lemon squeezy
lusty grotto
ty ghash
solid sun
Can we pull statues onto third boss now
lusty grotto
you always could
solid sun
Someone said those mobs don’t do anything anymore
warm plinth
Always could realistically. It's not a mechanically complex fight
lusty grotto
i did a few times
warm plinth
The slashers weren't changed afaik