or bad dps plays
#protection
round pendant
slow hatch
Does anyone know of a guide or simple list of best times to look to use Rallying Cry in the raid?
high latch
The correct thing to do is talk it out with your healers. Else I just send it whenever I know big AoE is incoming.
blazing shuttle
frosty mango
This is also true, transmog is very important.
You gotta look good to be good.
You ever go to the store and see a car with flame stickers? You just know that baby is fast. Same premise.
solid sun
So true
frosty mango
I roll into a 17 and the healer has a shit mog I just kick them. If you can’t put some effort into your looks how can I expect you to put effort into keeping me alive
solid sun
Exactly
jagged pier
solid sun
My monk looks like if Chuck Norris was a night elf
So you know his roundhouse kicks gonna hit just right
Sets the mood
Encourages victory
frosty mango
Jakey is def a non mogger. You strike me as a non mogger Jakey
solid sun
Jakey in that raid looking like a yard sale 100%
jagged pier
i mog
solid sun
Jakey do you have a tmog mount
high latch
Now that we've rated UIs we should rate mogs
solid sun
Or do you save gold by letting everyone around you mount up instead
frosty mango
Jakey flexing his dps and his wallet
frosty mango
I’m out of coffee so I’m about to go unlock my car
And get more coffee
jagged pier
the new one
jagged pier
its a mog of all time
thats for sure
but u might as well get tmog roulette if u guuna do that
frosty mango
I call it "chilling at the gates of honor hold"
really evokes those hellfire peninsula vibes
round pendant
all my characters are wearing pyjamas
solid sun
Yep
That tracks
:)
You understand the importance of striking fear into your enemies
round pendant
no it's just impossible to make a decent transmog because every single colour has 1 bajillion different shades and nothing matches
but sure
frosty mango
no it's just impossible to make a decent transmog because every single colour ha...
Gotta lean into it like me
undone beacon
So all the tmogs in the tmog section aren’t decent
New pfp who dis
mellow yoke
no it's just impossible to make a decent transmog because every single colour ha...
that's why I use pre made sets
solves all problems
round pendant
they should re-do all the models in the game and set them up to support dyeing
then add dyes
frosty mango
That would cost us like an entire expansion
jagged pier
its coming for housing u can dye furniture at least, well the new model. they are appretnly working on the old models
i doubt it comes too armour
as u get colour variances
undone beacon
Over twenty years of armor to make compatible with dyes, I don’t think it’s ever going to be a feature lol
Simply don’t transmog your gear and just wear what you have, easy
frosty mango
Spoken like a Druid
“Who needs mog I got a sick bear form”
Can any healer do dawnbreaker above 15?
round pendant
Over twenty years of armor to make compatible with dyes, I don’t think it’s ever...
They have the resources
It just has little return on investment ig
frosty mango
I swear they are all incapable of healing the first boss
round pendant
since it's just making the game better rather than a feature that will sell more subscriptions
most people just either don't mog or mog tier sets
neon elk
Dawn is so much easier if you have dps that can stop dmg for better phases . If u have issues surviving between intermisions thats another story
frosty mango
Every one I run over 15 is immediate brick
Every healer just falls apart on the debuff dispel
Like even before the key this one shaman was playing healing stream and I was like “hey man, prob need to run cloudburst” and he’s like na
Sure enough he can’t heal the debuff off
deep iris
Is there a bug or something with Tome, or trinkets in general, dropping in Priory? I'm about to do run #53 and still no Tome. I've not even seen a Signet drop.
jagged pier
nope
deep iris
My loot spec is Prot, so no issues there.
undone beacon
Is there a bug or something with Tome, or trinkets in general, dropping in Prior...
thats called rng baby
jagged pier
thats how rng loot from m+ works
high latch
Is there a bug or something with Tome, or trinkets in general, dropping in Prior...
Yeah, no.. I have gotten 4 signets, but still looking to join the book club.
deep iris
Okay, just making sure I didn't miss something and I'm bashing my face against this dungeon for nothing.
high latch
Nah, you're just unlucky like the rest of us
deep iris
Oh I'm taking breaks and playing an alt. I've got warrior to 3k and shaman to 2500 trying to get the Tome.
warm plinth
I got it in 3 runs and haven't seen it drop since
high latch
It's much rarer to see Tome drop than Signet because Tome only drops for tank specs. But getting them yourself is 50/50.
zinc peak
thats called rng baby
i thought id get sacbrood before i went for the tome but seems RNjesus is just as nice about sacbrood as he is tome ...
high latch
The silverlining with a trinket like Sacbrood is that as the season goes on it gets more and more likely the other people in your party can give theirs away. For Tome you're on your own.
zinc peak
The silverlining with a trinket like Sacbrood is that as the season goes on it g...
true, might be better off grinding tome for a bit. the haste from sacbrood is so nice though
high latch
Kinda wish they had a system where you got 1 dungeon-specific currency each time you do it and can buy any of its items for 20 or something.
But I guess that's kinda what dinars are meant to do as well.
zinc peak
yeah after 20 attempts or something can just purchase the item you so desperately need
high latch
Would be nice. At that point you statistically should have gotten it, so it kinda gets old at that point.
zinc peak
I liked the combination of the pacemaker and sacbrood though, it feels nice. i know tome is S ranked trinket but it seems like the haste and str gain works good with warrior. Am I terribly off and should focus more on tome or is it a depending on play feel kinda thing? just getting back into tanking after several years of break
high latch
I would say Tome is clearly better, but Sacbrood is still good. But what Tome does incredibly well is ST/prio damage, so it depends how you value that.
What a lot of people do, however, is drop Tome for Brand. So you run Brand + Pacemaker or Brand + Antenna.
zinc peak
awesome thank you 😄
plush tendon
Is there a bug or something with Tome, or trinkets in general, dropping in Prior...
ooooo we talking about the probability of a item dropping again 
frosty mango
Just take 4 other tank eligible guildies
And you’ll get it four times faster
4head
jagged pier
sure
hit that
but then theres a gcd u havent pressed SS when u could
and u kinda dont want to miss a SS cast
dry skiff
bloodmallet says Idol does the most damage, but i dont know how would the interaction between that and avatar works
high latch
It does a lot of damage, but be careful as the channeling stops you from blocking and parrying and stuff. So you probably wanna Shockwave first.
dry skiff
i meant the Cooldown wise
high latch
I have no idea how it interacts with Avatar. Just wanted to put that warning out there because not everyone knows.
And you do 0 damage if you die.
jagged pier
it doesnt
avatar doesnt increase trinket damage
the damage u do with the crit it gives u will be effected tho
vagrant falcon
anyone knows how much gain the heroic boots are over raw stat boots?
undone beacon
dps wise? nada
jagged pier
even defensively, not really
vagrant falcon
so do you just dont play them?
undone beacon
If you have them its free extra shield but its not worth giving up ilvl for them
jagged pier
and a extra effect
undone beacon
Mtyh boots > hero hunters boot
dry skiff
There must be a language barrier because that is not what i meant. im asking how do we use idol when the cooldown is different from avatar's
jagged pier
on cooldown
undone beacon
You just... use it
jagged pier
if choose not to cast it when its up
then your loosing value of the trinket
and probably future casts down the line
mellow bridge
you can just line it with roar or spear depending on what you play
and if avatar/ds naturally line up, then great
you shouldnt sit on either CD for long to try and sync em up
mighty valley
I’m not really understanding how avatar and idol are related at all
solid sun
New pfp who dis
Yam said they hated me because of my pfp so I just google searched a new rhino with a cowboy hat
solid sun
Mhm
nova juniper
I just had someone in a Streets tell me afterwards that it is generally expected that the tank pings which portals to take? Has that been y'alls experience? I always just kind of assumed that peopel can figure the portals out themselves
solid sun
lol
high latch
I just had someone in a Streets tell me afterwards that it is generally expected...
Never. I assume people follow me.
solid sun
Lmao
high latch
It happens that people don't follow me and they get some awkward downtime, so maybe I should ping, but it's rarely an issue.
solid sun
My expectation is people will follow me. I also don’t really care if they don’t
Half the time when I try to ping a specific thing I end up pinging myself or something I’m fighting instead
zinc peak
I just had someone in a Streets tell me afterwards that it is generally expected...
I always just expect pugs to follow or make the right choice. Ive also had a pug get mad at me over not helping burn down adds at first boss of AK though ....
solid sun
I mean it’s pretty easy to cleave off the boss right
I don’t think I’d be mad if the tank didn’t but t.blast has some range to it so you def could
solid sun
Which dungeon was it
undone beacon
just a 13 flood lol
solid sun
lol
azure crag
That last boss in flood fucks me up more than I care to admit.
Spent all expansion as a blood dk and just AMS'd and Death's advanced all his mechanics. I'm getting exposed bad
high latch
You probably know already, but don't sit on Spell Reflect too much. That -25% magic damage taken is masive.
undone beacon
Just sit with your back to the console, Spell Reflect the dot, and leap to the enterance for sparks
90% of the time just going to the other end of the room results in your spark getting watered
azure crag
YOU CAN SPELL REFLECT THE DOT?!
Like, the one from the tank buster?!
shrewd grove
I don't think so. But it reduces the damage you take by 25% still
azure crag
Oh, fair enough
undone beacon
It doesnt reflect it but its a 25% magic DR every 20 seconds lol
high latch
Yeah, it doesn't reflect. Only reduces damage.
lime mantle
Way to rain on our parade...
undone beacon
So you'll have it up for each buster dot
high latch
If it still trucks you you can run Hunker Down for another 10% reduction.
undone beacon
OR you run spellbreaker like a chad
high latch
True. Just get lucky.
lime mantle
Always reflect it, right?
shrewd grove
I mean, nothing else in that fight hurts at all. Just Shield Wall it too 😛
high latch
That's what I do. Both wall and SR.
shrewd grove
OR you run spellbreaker like a chad
I personally love leaving my survivability up to chance 😛
high latch
Wall won't be available for all of them, but you can cover a few.
shrewd grove
ye
idle copper
You should be able to have spell reflect and impending victory up for both.
deft mortar
bro ppl keep dying in route pulls wtf
so tired of dps dying to dogshit mechanics
like random spell casts etc
high latch
Not saying yours is, but some routes do sketchy pulls
But yeah, sometimes people will die no matter what you do.
deft mortar
I go with whatever the pug-friendly pull is on google
high latch
There are multiple of those of varying quality
lunar flare
Alexa, generate a pug friendly route for dawn breaker 13
high latch
But it's probably not the route's fault, to be clear.
high latch
That's not great..
deft mortar
I had 17 (cuz shout) and all else 10-11s
mellow yoke
I depleted Gambit 17, I had 47 interrupts, heal 19, DH had 17, Mage 16 and DK 12...
high latch
Sounds low in general, but depends on the dungeon and route.
mellow yoke
we had like 6 deaths to casts
lunar flare
DH had 3 interrupts nvm
It’s when you have a free casting add outside the pack and your two ranged DPS are sat there with their kicks off CD and they don’t do anything about it and get bolted to death
deft mortar
ok wtf this group is 5 Orcs
deft mortar
It’s when you have a free casting add outside the pack and your two ranged DPS a...
IKR
Alway get a DK
ALWAYS
mellow yoke
ALWAYS
and hope they use their grip
Some keys I gotta beg
for a grip
wait like 20 seconds before it's gripped
high latch
The worst feeling is having one or even two shamans and them not using the best kick in the game
Makes me cry a little
mellow yoke
cause he's too busy doing damage
manic egret
Hi! This is my first time writing! Does anyone have any Raid talents that get the most damage out of them? I want to beat my friend DK Blood. xD
high latch
The builds the Wowhead guide recommends are really solid.
mellow yoke
Hi! This is my first time writing! Does anyone have any Raid talents that get th...
Check out warcaft logs
to see what players play on different bosses and different difficulties
high latch
That's good advice as well.
manic egret
Great thanks I'll check it out
ruby musk
Is there a more pug friendly version of this pull
Every time I've pulled this, it's just been a wipefest.
jagged pier
yer split it into 2
ruby musk
So just a three pull and leave the mini alone?
ruby musk
Yeah that looks better
high latch
Lust pull 2, ofc.
ruby musk
Gives space for people to move because somehow dodging beams is hard
high latch
They can actually be hard to dodge. It's random if they spawn on ranged players or melee, so you gotta pay attention and reposition.
If you mean the spinning beams.
ruby musk
No I mean the straight lines
high latch
Ah nevermind me then.
ruby musk
The ones you can press S for
high latch
I only do keys up to the 3k range for now, so it doesn't matter for me
lunar flare
The ones you can press S for
DPS pugs hate this one trick!!!
ruby musk
lol
prime sphinx
ruby musk
If I was running with a group and comms I'd do it but with pugs sometimes its just easier to let them focus on one thing at a time
Maybe if the keys were higher but it's been rough the past couple days just trying to get the last points for 3k
So many keys bricked from bs
mellow yoke
u can't get 50k though
solid sun
That's a lot of good boy and good girl points
sweet summit
timid valley
whats the haste cap for 100% shieldblock ?
high latch
whats the haste cap for 100% shieldblock ?
You can't get 100% with ITF. You can only get that with HR.
timid valley
how many should i go that is considered enough for m+ ?
high latch
how many should i go that is considered enough for m+ ?
To run ITF you want 21-25k. I have just under 25k myself and get 94-95% uptime.
Practically speaking that is about as much as you can get.
If you have less than that you want to swap ITF to HR. Then you have 100% uptime easily.
timid valley
alright thanks for the help
smoky robin
How much haste before swaping to other stats
high latch
With ITF it's typically not recommended to go much higher than 25k. I've heard 27k, but I only recommend up to 25k myself.
When you have enough haste to keep decent Shield Block uptime you just sim yourself to see what you wanna focus more on.
smoky robin
sry what is ITF
high latch
Into the Fray, a talent that increases haste based on how many mobs and players are around you.
frosty mango
Yogi don’t ever change
tribal wharf
ya okay right but when lumbering skill
lime spruce
if I craft 720 legs and then use a catalyst charge on them, do they convert to myth track tier or something else
strong forum
you cant catalyse crafted items
lime spruce
Ah gotcha nvm ty
jagged gust
ya okay right but when lumbering skill
Didn't we have lumbering in wod?
tribal wharf
noat evergreen
dfoesnt count
never has never will count
well, only in wod
which i didnt play anyway
- house is made of like 70% + wood
round pendant
if someone goes offline
and everyone abandons
do they get punished
tank just dipped lmao
he pulled like a clown, wiped us twice
then leaves
high latch
If you voted abandon it's all good. If you left the party you probably will have a +1 to the leaver counter.
high latch
I assume there's a thing where a DCd player will get kicked after a while, but that's probably like 5-10min. Assuming such a thing even exists.
Seems like a no-brainer to me, but who knows. Blizz hasn't really explained how it works.
fathom oasis
random thought
during the last boss of priory of the flame, is there any way to jump from the low ground to the higher ground?
like the portal warlocks can place
high latch
Yes, you can leap and warlock gate, but it's very precise
I don't bother with it and just leap to the top of the middle stairs.
Cus you lose more time than you gain if you mess it up.
fathom oasis
do you have any clip at hand?
strong forum
you leap ontop of the fence
high latch
Just clear it in a follower dungeon or wait until you've done another Priory key then stay behind and practice. You'll figure it out.
But it only saves you 2-3 seconds.
strong forum
you need to position there
the arrows are stairs
the small rectangle is the top of the fence
fathom oasis
nice
strong forum
position downstairs is the imporant part
fathom oasis
yup, got this to work
strong forum
ye
lusty grotto
do they get punished
no
if someone leaves before, everyone else can leave after
they take the abandon, the rest dont
mossy kindle
why does prot warrior have a super laggy response time between all of their offensive abilities?
mossy kindle
dead ass, im at 36% haste, and it feels like im waiting on cast bar to get the spell off.
lusty grotto
its 100% on your end
mossy kindle
no, because i dont have the same issue on my pally tank nor VDH, i do have the same problem on my Blood DK
mossy kindle
same everything.
strong forum
and just to be certain, youre talented into devastator?
mossy kindle
i am
mossy kindle
i dont have Weakauras on this toon
high latch
As a test you could try to temporarily disable all addons and see how it feels then. Could be an addon?
high latch
Personally I also feel like it's sluggish sometimes when I try to get many abilities off and I have a couple of things queued already, but not as bad as what you're describing.
strong forum
ye thats just shitty spellqueueing
cuz we are a fast class
so you need to spam your abilities
nocturne spindle
i lowered the spell que window and it felt like it helped
so that it actually cast what i wanted if i switched buttons
high latch
How low do you have it? I'd like to test that
strong forum
150
lusty grotto
it highly depends on your latency
high latch
Also do you remember the console command? Else I'll just google it
lusty grotto
so one's settings might not work for everyone
mossy kindle
As a test you could try to temporarily disable all addons and see how it feels t...
its still the same
strong forum
the rule of thumb is
high latch
Sounds correct. Let me try.
strong forum
many things feel fine
azure crag
I didn't know you could set your spell queue, holy crap
lusty grotto
yeah dont worry we've been over this
fathom oasis
no, because i dont have the same issue on my pally tank nor VDH, i do have the s...
any chance you can provide a recording/clip of your gameplay on your warr vs your pally?
high latch
I'm on 350 which should be default. My ping is 25. I'll try both 150 and 125.
See how they both feel.
high latch
/console SpellQueueWindow 150
Yeah, it's /console
Thanks guys, hopefully that will help in my case at least
Dunno about Thicc though. Maybe try the same?
mossy kindle
any chance you can provide a recording/clip of your gameplay on your warr vs you...
thats alot of work, but yeah i can.
lusty grotto
the only thing that occurs to me
is them playing ITF without the required haste
but even then
fathom oasis
what i HAVE noticed is that between a SS press and the rage showing as going up, it take like 200ms or so?
lusty grotto
it shouldn't result in feeling like a "cast bar"
fathom oasis
i think it's only visual however
because if I SS+IP insta at max rage, that SS does not generate any rage
lusty grotto
idk about default ui, but i havent seen that in any WA
azure crag
do you add up the world ping and home ping? Or just use your home ping?
fathom oasis
same with thunderclap/thunderblast
high latch
do you add up the world ping and home ping? Or just use your home ping?
You don't add them.
lusty grotto
do you add up the world ping and home ping? Or just use your home ping?
home is fine
high latch
In my case both are identical.
lusty grotto
unless you live in OCE and are playing in NA servers
azure crag
Oh wow, default spell queue window is 400
high latch
For slow classes I'm sure that's pretty nice actually
strong forum
but if you dont spam fast enough it can queue the wrong spell
high latch
Or casters.
strong forum
and casting revenge instead of SS is quite costly long term
azure crag
Hmmm....I do play DB blood, and that class is quite slow
especially compared to prot warrior
strong forum
almost everything is slow compared to pwar
lusty grotto
shouldnt matter tbh
i play all tanks in some capacity and i dont really see a lot of, if any, drawback from my 120
but certainly dont go that low
fathom oasis
can also combat a long spell queue window by having high prio spells on a macro that clears the window beforehand
fathom oasis
🤷♂️
nocturne spindle
but spam button fun
round pendant
if someone leaves before, everyone else can leave after
the tank is the one who "left" by going offline after his abandon vote failed
so
idk what happens there
azure crag
It is very interesting.
I'd describe blood dk gameplay as like....spinning plates. And letting any of those plates fall kills you.
Prot warrior feels more like trying to empty the water out of a boat that has several holes in it so you don't drown in RAGE.
DK requires me thinking several steps ahead so I don't fuck up.
Prot warrior is just constant bedlam. Managed chaos. I'm not thinking, I'm reacting to the pretty buttons that light up while trying to stop the red bar from maxing out
fathom oasis
idk about default ui, but i havent seen that in any WA
this is what i mean:
there's a tiny tiny delay between the button press and the increased rage showing up
lusty grotto
yeah default ui
fathom oasis
seems to sync between WA and default frame
lusty grotto
like i said i dont use default ui
im sure there's an option to remove the animation from it
fathom oasis
it's both in this clip
default frame on the left, WA resource in the center
this might be what @mossy kindle meant
lusty grotto
i dont think its the same at all
and i have no idea what that WA is
but it seems minimal anyway
works fine with me and Nome's
full mist
It is very interesting.
I'd describe blood dk gameplay as like....spinning plate...
Idk, I think the amount of extra “planning” required for blood DK is highly exaggerated.
I think it’s a bit of an illusion, because your health yo-yo’s so much and you get to see a uh number on the healing meter, it feels like you’re doing a lot more.
Prot warr is definitely on the easier side for tanks, but defensively all of the tank specs are pretty close IMO (and brew has a lot more to manage offensively).
thorn basalt
Is the Antenna in the prot loot table as well or just dps specs?
Got 2/8M now and want to plan for vault
jagged pier
yes
lusty grotto
you can also double check by opening your dungeon journal
thorn basalt
Asking cause I just closed the game lol
lusty grotto
fair
azure crag
Idk, I think the amount of extra “planning” required for blood DK is highly exag...
To be honest, I'm not even looking at my health bar most of the time as blood. If my screen goes red, I reflexively hit death strike, but otherwise, I'm just doing my rotation.
frosty mango
@potent anvil they didnt want you 🙁
potent anvil
azure crag
You get so much runic power, you just hit death strike when you have enough RP. Which you are constantly generating because you need to spend runes. But you gotta make sure you keep your bone shields up and spend exterminate stacks when you get them. And pop dancing rune weapon on CD. And make sure you're standing in death and decay, so when you use bonestorm and tombstone, they do maximum damage. But don't use them if you won't get max value out of the CDR for dancing rune weapon. And don't forget about your blood boil charges.
And this list just goes on and on and on
With prot, I'm just "HIT DA BUTTONS. DO NOT LET THE RED BAR FILL UP."
fathom oasis
but it seems minimal anyway
never said it wasnt
fathom oasis
i dont think its the same at all
why do you know what he was complaining about x)
lusty grotto
i dont
thats why i said "i think"
or to be specific "i dont think"
which is often the case 
azure crag
I wouldn't even necessarily call blood's rotation harder than prot. But it is significantly more punishing if you fuck it up.
thorn basalt
which is often the case <:keks:936231610850897992>
Same
azure crag
Prot warrior feels invincible
thorn basalt
If that's the case, why can I see it?
azure crag
If that's the case, why can I see it?
thorn basalt
full mist
Prot warrior feels invincible
That’s just a tuning thing though, and isn’t inherent to the classes. In shadowlands it was the opposite where you needed to play pretty tight to keep SB up and if it ever fell off you just got flattened. And blood DK was invincible in shadowlands S3 and S4
strong forum
the wonders tiersets enable
notably was also the most fun pwar has ever been in SL s3 and 4
thorn basalt
Oh so that's why my bdk friend quit
lusty grotto
That’s just a tuning thing though, and isn’t inherent to the classes. In shadowl...
youre describing s1
strong forum
BDK is currently the only tank thats fuck in m+
fathom oasis
BDK is currently the only tank thats fuck in m+
how's guardian this season? I heard it wasn't that good either
azure crag
That’s just a tuning thing though, and isn’t inherent to the classes. In shadowl...
I was not here for Shadowlands S3 or S4, so I wouldn't know.
I just know that blood's always been a plate spinning spec. You have like....7 things to manage all at the same time, and letting any one thing slip will typically fuck up the rest
strong forum
pwar is the same
1 mistake and you cant recover
its just that they dumbed pwar down every patch
more and more
azure crag
Prot doesn't feel like a plate spinner to me, tho. At least not this patch.
It feels like a game of whack-a-mole
strong forum
the plate spinner shows in terms of damage output
not in minimum requirement to be tanky
azure crag
A very fun game of whack-a-mole
But I am I not planning anything out beyond my CDs
or thinking ahead at all
just playing the spec as it comes to me with all its procs
strong forum
ye thats thane for ya
full mist
youre describing s1
Yeah, I was thinking s1 + s2, I know pwarr was significantly worse than BDK and prot pal in S3/S4 shadowlands but prot warr wasn’t as intense then
lusty grotto
Yeah, I was thinking s1 + s2, I know pwarr was significantly worse than BDK and ...
we were not significantly worse
in those seasons
thats just community perception
we had banner
strong forum
pwar was 2nd best tank in s3 and s4, but 10x harder than anyone else
lusty grotto
strong forum
and bdk was just insanely overtuned
full mist
But the broad point is that how punishing a tank spec is when messing up defensives is more a function of current tubing rather than a spec being inherently more forgiving than another.
strong forum
depends on forgiving, bdk gets fucked up by everyday hits, pwar gets fucked up if you dont use a defensive on X mechanic and then needs the healer to pick up the slack otherwise you just die straight up
lusty grotto
regardless i understand what they are going for, im just clarifying the state of this class during SL
strong forum
bdk has more leeway vs mechanics as 1 deathstrike takes care of it again like nothing happened
azure crag
Indeed.
As long as you survive a hit as blood, you're fine and can take care of yourself.
But it's also why maintaining lots of runic power is so important and not wasting it is vital.
For prot, I've found as long as I have shield block up, I'm good for 90% of situations. And we have spell reflect, shield wall, even last stand and victory rush in a pinch.
I have noticed though that its far harder to survive if my healer goes down, tho. As blood, I don't even notice. As prot, all those tiny hits start adding up.
lusty grotto
that being said, i dont think blizzard's current philosphy is to make tanks so punishing
and thats probably not going to change
if only they realized the other important part that they seem to be missing: tanks like to do damage
azure crag
^THIS.
Yes, I do like feeling like an invincible wall of iron. But I would also like to deal a reasonable amount of damage. Not even an insane amount, just...you know, if I hit a button, I'd like to see the health bars of my foes move.
And not struggle with aggro cause this ret paladin just blew his entire load on the pack the instant we engaged.
round pendant
lusty grotto
For prot, I've found as long as I have shield block up, I'm good for 90% of situations. And we have spell reflect, shield wall, even last stand and victory rush in a pinch.
the only problem with this statement is that these are proactive measures, not reactive (also why is LS there, its garbage)
"in a pinch" does not apply
you do them before damage comes in
azure crag
I dunno
free health pot is free?
lusty grotto
not after the fact
lunar flare
If I have to choose between pugging the rest of the season and unsubbing, does anyone know what I can buy myself for £9.99 as a treat
lusty grotto
I dunno
free health pot is free?
idk they are worth more than free
azure crag
TBH, the only thing I've used last stand for at this point is the free health pot value.
At least up to +12, I haven't even needed it
lusty grotto
If I have to choose between pugging the rest of the season and unsubbing, does a...
a lot if you add up the months
raw parcel
176g! What a racket those alchemists are runnin
lunar flare
176g! What a racket those alchemists are runnin
Yeah but rank 2 isn’t that much worse honestly
azure crag
I should probably buy actual health potions.
azure crag
but god dang it, I don't wanna
Flasks, food, mana oil, unreasonable repair prices, goblin jumper cables, drums
lunar flare
That’s a good solution if you want to spend more time playing or have the capacity to do so
I don’t want to gather herbs and brew potions like some LARPy ass wizard, though
Weapon durability can actually get fucked as well
What’s the point
azure crag
I sadly cannot spend more time playing WoW than I already do
lunar flare
I don’t want to spend more time playing, I have other things to do!
I’m old and have responsibilities 🙁
frosty mango
I play the game very little relative to most people and I have no issue with any of these things
Like most things in life people are bad at actually doing
You log in for 2 hours, you spend 90 minutes of that not actually doing anything
frosty mango
Increase your time efficiency, not your time played
frosty mango
Ah ok yes I must be bad
You might be a bad time manager. You might be great. You just said you were bad though so I’ll believe you
🍻
azure crag
I play the game very little relative to most people and I have no issue with any...
I have 2 character. A main and an old main I still log into occasionlly
This is all I got
lunar flare
Just be more efficient, Cobat
azure crag
I don't wanna be more efficient, I just wanna have fun in a video game
lunar flare
Not allowed, sorry
Spreadsheet of every minute spent so you can allocate gathering time
azure crag
😭
frosty mango
I think you’re completely missing the point lol
lunar flare
🍻
cinder marsh
why are the top people not using ravager or passive ravager?
frosty mango
By top people you mean yoda and Kira?
cinder marsh
yes
azure crag
and I think you are vastly underestimating your ability to make good use of your time in WoW.
Like, I got days when I don't even log into wow
cinder marsh
so what build should i go for?
lusty grotto
wowhead's vault key build
and then swap in certain talents as you meet damage checks
strong forum
why are the top people not using ravager or passive ravager?
To be weird, idk
Several weird choices going in their builds
mellow yoke
why are the top people not using ravager or passive ravager?
I believe it's because they don't have trouble surviving, aka not needing much rage to keep up their IP that much
the main idea of getting ravager is to generate rage
Instead of that they go more execute talents for Prio and ST damage
gleaming canyon
Loving prot this season in m+. The aoe interrupt feels like i bring actually useful utility and feel so tanky, barely even need shield wall in a 14 i did
neon elk
Anybody else not having best time trying to keep first arakara boss for dps to cleave ?
gleaming canyon
Anybody else not having best time trying to keep first arakara boss for dps to ...
feels like its mostly dependent on everyone else not being apes with their adds
You can just heroic leap right next to where they will be, but yea ive had people freak with those, maybe not used to the new spiders
neon elk
Ive literaly had a pala demand me to stand close so he can cleave and then he decided to stay in middle of boss and was shocked when he ate them..
gleaming canyon
Yea thats exactly what i mean lol
neon elk
Like at that point im thinking about just standing like 10meters away and watch dps suffer
gleaming canyon
Its for such marginal cleave gain, but i think people will get better at it
chrome falcon
just tell them before run that the spiders don't do damage anymore and they can just tank them
chrome falcon
Its for such marginal cleave gain, but i think people will get better at it
it's not marginal at all
its a lot of damage
neon elk
Its a lot of gain for nothing but i feel like thats recently my highest reason for bricked key , like people either dont know how they work or dont care/ brain lag
pine lotus
How much more dmg is the execute build vs the push build
mellow yoke
Anybody else not having best time trying to keep first arakara boss for dps to ...
people stay in direction of boss
so, spiders go to the boss
and u have to move the boss
which kinda fucks up the cleave
neon elk
Yea and then people dont focus on adds hard enough he starts to chanel puddles and its gg cuz add gets eaten
lusty grotto
uhh
adds dont get eaten unless the people fixated go into her hitbox
or through it
thats on them
not on tanks
you can easily maintain funnel through baits
neon elk
Thats exactly my issue
mellow yoke
adds dont get eaten unless the people fixated go into her hitbox
it's when spiders
get into her hitbox
she eats them
neon elk
Ive literaly had a pala demand me to stand close so he can cleave and then he ...
This message
mellow yoke
he should stay
behind where the adds have spawned
so that adds do not move in the direction of the boss
that's on them
and trust me, even people in 16s do not know
how to do this properly
neon elk
Yea had people in 15 rage just to realize they dont know how it works
But its so weird , i either get flamed for not doing it or they brick key xd
lusty grotto
she eats them
Thats exactly what i said
no need to ackchually me
reading comprehension
mellow yoke
the way you articulated it
lusty grotto
what could possibly cause the spiders to go into her hit box??
youre not moving the spider into them
if you are, youre inting
mellow yoke
sounded like you meant that if players fixated are in her hitbox makes the boss eat the spiders
lusty grotto
yes im addressing the root cause
i dont patronize people thinking they dont know mechanics
Lommatik has been here for a while
neon elk
Dw i understood what u meant
boreal heath
Why is execute @ 6T a higher prio than execute at 3T. When it's capped at 3 w/ the talent shouldn't it be the same damage regardless?
neon elk
Just wanted to vent and see how others are dealing with it
lusty grotto
Why is execute @ 6T a higher prio than execute at 3T. When it's capped at 3 w/ t...
execute is prio in LESS than 6t
youre reading it wrong
and the reason why there's a target number is because it just hits harder than any other spender
even if its capped at 3
anything over 6t, you revenge
does that make sense?
pallid quiver
Why is execute @ 6T a higher prio than execute at 3T. When it's capped at 3 w/ t...
It's in comparison to the other buttons you can press; also, the rage it spends is situationally nice for sniping outbursts on the proper ability, as well
also because if you're looking at the wowhead guide, you'd never hit the 3 or fewer targets priority option for execute because of the higher prio execute; it's mostly there if you don't have AOE execute
Nome could make it so execute disappears when you have heavy handed selected, but it's probably not a major concern or issue
strong forum
Can't make exclusion prompts sadly
pallid quiver
that's whack
strong forum
Yeah
pallid quiver
well, there's the ultimate answer
strong forum
And yeh the answer is simply, 3t execute Hits harder than almost all abilities would do on 6
Like, a 5t revenge hits for like 1.5mil combined for example, but the 3t execute Hits for 4.5mil combined
It hits ungodly hard
heavy sparrow
Wowzers
boreal heath
does that make sense?
Yeah ty, was just confused over the extra execute at the end.
boreal heath
also because if you're looking at the wowhead guide, you'd never hit the 3 or fe...
Wouldn't you hit the last execute priority if TC is on cd, and you have. < 50 rage?
strong forum
pallid quiver
technically, with how it's written and placed, it's higher prio than anything, since there's no minimum target value
well, anything not CDs or resets or rage management
so like base rotation stuff
Since it comes before Shield Slam, outburst spends, or even clap being pressed, and you press it on "up to 6 targets", which doesn't say to not use it that high in ST
boreal heath
technically, with how it's written and placed, it's higher prio than anything, s...
Might be reading it wrong, but it looks like it's only higher prio when rage > 60
lusty grotto
yes its rage dependant after all
pallid quiver
there's no rage mention for that execute line, technically
lusty grotto
its a spender
pallid quiver
it is simply press it on up to 6 targets
In reality, yeah, it's used to manage rage
boreal heath
there's no rage mention for that execute line, technically
Ah I was looking at the colo rotation
pallid quiver
oh yeah Colo has different focuses, since it also doesn't buff execute as much/generates less rage
boreal heath
Which is what was confusing me a bit as to why revenge is better between 50-60 rage specifically
pallid quiver
Rage gen and pacing; you don't want any globals dead
And if you press execute at 50 rage, for example, it'd consume 40 of that 50
and then if it doesn't reset shield slam, you're screwed on that global unless you happen to have TC available or something
strong forum
Which is what was confusing me a bit as to why revenge is better between 50-60 r...
Being left at 20-30 rage
After the cast
frosty mango
and then if it doesn't reset shield slam, you're screwed on that global unless y...
You just untalent devastator and then you always have a button to press 4head
pallid quiver
You just untalent devastator and then you always have a button to press 4head
stonks
pallid quiver
Which is what was confusing me a bit as to why revenge is better between 50-60 r...
If you also didn't know, execute scales linear wise with the rage spent, so if it spends less rage, you're not losing a whole bunch of damage or anything, hence why it's fine to send a 20 rage execute but can be rough to send a 40-cost execute while at 50 rage
boreal heath
If you also didn't know, execute scales linear wise with the rage spent, so if i...
What determines how much rage is spent?
pallid quiver
how much rage you have
It'll spend 20-40 rage
If you have less than 40, it'll spend all of it
If you have more than 40, it costs 40 rage
boreal heath
I assume then since the rage condition isn't up for MT that MT rage gen is just large enough to ignore the amount of rage you send execute at?
pallid quiver
There's a few things that go into it; for example, you also can spend outburst on Thunder Blast as a valid option. As Colo, sending outburst on Thunder Clap is very sad times
So the rage you spend goes into outburst fueling, whether it's Blast or Shield Slam
Thane also has hero talents that increase the damage of execute, off the top of my head
And you also are just sitting on more potential globals, since you have procs that do things like give you 3 shield slams with no real CD, back to back
boreal heath
Can you check for missed ss resets on a log?
obtuse venture
hi just have a quick question. how much rage loss would it be if dropping bloodsurge for whirling blades in m+?
alpine lotus
You don't take whirling blades?
obtuse venture
ive tried doing target dummy tests but my details doesnt record rage generation for some reason
alpine lotus
You should check out https://murlok.io/warrior
obtuse venture
I just thought maybe whirling blades might give some extra dmg and still generate some rage but i dunno how much less it is than bloodsurge
alpine lotus
Most poeple take both talents I believe
alpine lotus
take a look at that sight I linked, you can scroll down on the Prot war page and see the talent pages for the top 50 Prot warriors.
obtuse venture
yea im looking at it now
lusty grotto
You should check out https://murlok.io/warrior
please dont
dusky canopy
alpine lotus
Did I break a rule?
lusty grotto
hi just have a quick question. how much rage loss would it be if dropping bloods...
and yes you should be playing whirling as thane not bloodsurge
no, we just have guides specifically for that reason, no need to link aggregate sites that we dont support
wowhead/icyveins are our guides
alpine lotus
👍
That site is less of a guide and more like aggregate data from the top 50 Prot warriors based on score.
full mist
But on that note, what is the best way to see how much rage blood surge is generating? I couldn’t find its RPPM and I’m assuming the rage generation isn’t linearly increasing with target count similar to DK’s frost fever
mellow bridge
If you just want the total rage generated by it, you can check a log
lusty grotto
its normalized
its not as big as whirling
and does not increase with target count
lament acorn
But on that note, what is the best way to see how much rage blood surge is gener...
resource tab on log
Example: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dpctyzab4VdmPkfJ?fight=13&type=resources&source=373&spell=101
lusty grotto
at least not substantially
full mist
resource tab on log
Example: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dpctyzab4VdmP...
Thanks, I was trying to look at some logs earlier but the resource tab wasn’t showing for them
lusty grotto
probably because advanced logging isnt turned on
lament acorn
Thanks, I was trying to look at some logs earlier but the resource tab wasn’t sh...
probably needed to swap from hit points to rage at the top
full mist
probably because advanced logging isnt turned on
It might have been that, when I went to the resources tab I was just seeing a combat log
round pendant
I want triple threat achieve :^(
obtuse venture
thnx for all the info guys. appreciate it.
round pendant
I love applying to keys as a dps it's so fun
round pendant
Wild how the game is more toxic than ever with this abandon shit in place
people just anonymously vote to abandon and people agree???
1 wipe in a +10 after first boss hoa
instant abandon
classic
orchid narwhal
I think ten keys are harder than any other key level I do
I've unironically had easier 17s this season and easier 20s last season than some of 10s I sign up to for vault
round pendant
actually insane the amount of routes I see that seem like they have no plan at all
frosty mango
actually insane the amount of routes I see that seem like they have no plan at a...
What’s your route?
“Forward”
orchid narwhal
My biggest reason for swapping to prot war from rogue for M+ was that I thought to myself "Surely tanking cannot be this hard"
solid sun
W routes are my specialty
round pendant
yeah I'm just using my threechest thing for the screenshot
ignore the group borders
point is, he just let everyone die to G57 instead of picking em up
and then abandoned
fucking annoying after queuing for 15 minutes to get into the last 10 I need on my alt
I was pumping too :(
solid sun
If you go around the south side of them I feel like you can
I want to say I’ve seen that a few times. Take out the greeters at the gate and go straight to g29
All the way down the south side
solid sun
Idk yam maybe I just don’t wanna deal with em
solid sun
Isn’t he cute
warm plinth
It's skippable by just walking past, but it's also very easy to buttpull or it gets pulled by groundskeepers
solid sun
isn’t he cute
round pendant
I see groundskeeper walking towards a slasher?
nothing personnel kid
kidney shot
solid sun
I like fighting the slashers
warm plinth
I wish the knock wasn't as strong but they're whatever otherwise.
solid sun
I get to do something besides get bolted
round pendant
they just have lots of hp
warm plinth
Like it's super annoying to be knocked against a fence and it like lifts you up and still yeets you past it
round pendant
I've still not seen someone do a route that I think is nicer than mine on hoa
solid sun
Otherwise the dreary gloomy poo town starts to make me feel sleepy
I wish the whole dungeon was just the third boss
Spell reflecting the whole time
icy haven
and we had 2 funnel classes
What are the funnel classes? I know arcane and vdh, any other?
tranquil thunder
What are the funnel classes? I know arcane and vdh, any other?
Arcane,havoc, assa, sub, ele, enhacement a bit, mm
lusty grotto
shadow
is the top funnel
not sure how both of you missed it
well i suppose arcane can give it a run for its money this season
solid sun
If my shadow priest friend does tank damage does that mean he sucks or I’m not pulling correctly
Cause it is not my favorite rn
lusty grotto
it means he sucks
round pendant
shadow's pretty hard to play well I think
lusty grotto
the only shadow i invite is my friend
other SPs... ehh
they are usually little bitches that complain the entire run about some bs
solid sun
lol he does think everything is annoying
solid sun
Your friend just isn’t insane enough
carmine topaz
how much of my damage is the 4 set?
lusty grotto
20% ish
carmine topaz
I'm struggling to do damage right now and I wonder how much of that might be because I'm only 2 set
lusty grotto
tb is around 20% of an overall key
ionizing is about 12-14% of an overall key
if its higher than that
then youre probably doing something wrong
if its vastly lower than that, youre probably doing something wrong as well
lusty grotto
I'm struggling to do damage right now and I wonder how much of that might be bec...
it 100% is
you swap to thane only after 4pc
2pc thane is only good in ST
you use colossus in keys if you dont have 4pc speicifically for that reason
carmine topaz
oh I see
I've been banging my head against a wall with MThane since I started lmao
lusty grotto
i havent upped logs but this was a 14 HOA
warm plinth
bro ngl I saw the 30.9% crit % on Exe and thought it was the % of damage and my heart fell through my feet
lusty grotto
lol
warm plinth
How much overall was that?
lusty grotto
4.3M
not having ire is fucking me
but also
ionizing strikes should be higher
i was just tilted on that run anyway
warm plinth
I don't have a good comparison for HoA. Last one I did was like day 1 or 2 of the season XD
on pwar anyway
pallid quiver
I've tanked HoA once this season
and i've literally never even been in dawn on my warrior
sinful copper
Damn is that warrior a 1 weekly key kinda guy?
pallid quiver
i've just not gotten any dawnbreaker keys
pallid quiver
The first time I even entered a dawnbreaker at all this season was on my Resto shaman at +12
and i think that was last week?
warm plinth
Yeah, we timed that bish though
Almost 2 chested
Oh idk why I thought you were in the 13 I did. Was a different rsham
lusty grotto
HOA is fine
what tilts me is that the other people get tilted for the most dumb reason
well, let me rephrase that
HOA is not fine, it does have way too many casters, but people just make it 500% worse
its like they go into it ready to get pissed
warm plinth
I did tilt in a HoA but it was on my hunter
And I was tilting at the tank tilting
because one singular cast of Loyal Beasts that he didn't even die to went off
lusty grotto
lol
warm plinth
basically gave up on the 2nd pull of the dungeon; it was tragic. Told him to just abandon and get the fuck out of my key T_T
lusty grotto
i also dont understand how people invite 3 wizards and expect to time it
oh yeah 3 caster kicks, i wonder what will happen
oh? and a priest healer to boot!
warm plinth
We had a priory like that once; 3 ranged kicks with 1 being demo lock
lusty grotto
i did a priory recently that had 3 warlocks
healer said "its resil"
im like uhhh ok i guess we'll go left
warm plinth
Isn't left more casters?
warm plinth
gross
lusty grotto
and i figured right side would be hell
and then probably get fucked at boss due to kicks
warm plinth
Do you know if it's true that sharpshooters won't pot shot people who stand behind them?
lusty grotto
havent really made the test
azure crag
is into the fray good for dimenseus?
It feels like I don't get to stand next to folks very often in that fight
azure crag
fair enough
lusty grotto
if you were solo tanking it, which i doubt its possible at this point, then i would say HR would be a better pick since you gotta stand away from people in 2 of the phases
it would be possible with ITF, you just gotta micro manage SB a lot like we used to do in the olden days, aka dont send it as hes casting etc
but yeah its really not a realistic scenario so
pseudo echo
question for the pug enjoyers, what route you guys doing on priory? for +15's
lusty grotto
right side
its not a question of enjoyment
its a question of do you want your healer to suffer?
cause thats what left side is
lusty grotto
not as much as they will by going left side
tame jasper
right side
Cn you post one please? Never did right before and getting closer to 15s (doing 14atm)
undone beacon
Ignore both sides and fight first boss with two mini bosses ez
frosty mango
Someone just vote abandoned my eco dome at second boss with 18 mins left
Said my route was bad
Then when the vote failed he purposely died
Why are people like this
blazing condor
Just look at what MDI are doing. Everyone knows thats the best way to pull 
Especially in pugs
tame jasper
Why are people like this
And why cant we report sich behavior with context relatee information (text)
slender bison
it was a 17
Do you leap from arcane slashes or still take them in the face?
frosty mango
Do you leap from arcane slashes or still take them in the face?
I leap them unless were tight on space
in which case I wall/reflect
but its usually a nonissue anyway bc I try to play dk/arcane/dh there
so they die almost immediately
sinful copper
Cn you post one please? Never did right before and getting closer to 15s (doing ...
I'm more impressed u time a 14 by going left
fallen marlin
Gm everyone,so i put Culminating Blasphemite and i put 5 different gems type on my rest gem slots and i didnt get any % of extra crit.Anyone know what i am doing wrong ?
clever hazel
I dont ever see any builds in M+ with intimidating shout, why is it a bad pickup?
sick merlin
It can send mobs into packs you don’t want to pull I guess is the main reason
jagged pier
thats not the reason its capped so it doesnt hit anything
it also doesnt work in some dungeons because mob type etc
but i run it
clever hazel
got it! Thanks
jagged pier
i like it, its a good stop
proud schooner
Is resetting the first boss in HM patched?
Not sure if meld/feign have both just failed
tame jasper
I'm more impressed u time a 14 by going left
As said I’m doing 14 atm. did not tried PSF14 yet, but 13 was no problem. 🤷♂️
fathom oasis
Then when the vote failed he purposely died
Yesterday I had the same thing happening after 1 wipe in a 10 lol, where we are all just farming an item and all over 2.7k rio...
Guy said he was going to afk to eat and would gladly come back after to loot the chest
The /abandon vote has been a great addition, in my opinion, but there needs to be a way for the people who ignore the vote to face some sort of consequences
lament osprey
fathom oasis
I don't know how it could be done without allowing other people to abuse it and threaten legit players that simply have a bad day
But some system that detects (maybe vote based?) that you are ignoring the outcome of the /abandon vote, and marks you as a leaver in the finder, much like if you have left the key
fathom oasis
Gm everyone,so i put Culminating Blasphemite and i put 5 different gems type on ...
You get critical effect, not critical chance. Theoretically, with 5 diff gems you'd do 0.75% more critical damage, which sounds hard to notice tbh
I think the consensus is that it's simply better to stack whatever stat you need and not worry about the 0.15% crit effect
lunar flare
As said I’m doing 14 atm. did not tried PSF14 yet, but 13 was no problem. 🤷♂️
Think left is ok but I’ve seen DPS blast CDs on the reflective shield one of the mini bosses does and kill themselves 🙃
fallen marlin
I think the consensus is that it's simply better to stack whatever stat you need...
Ok ty !
frosty mango
Think left is ok but I’ve seen DPS blast CDs on the reflective shield one of the...
Left is ok until it isn’t
On sub like maybe 14 imo left is just easier
But once you hit push range trying to heal that miniboss with the boss is heinous
gleaming widget
I'm more impressed u time a 14 by going left
Like we did whole last season and ppl timed it at 20?
jagged pier
they changed how the bosses work
so right is now easier
and they go right
in the high keys
grave lily
im convinced left is easier if you aren't on discord calling kicks
jagged pier
the overlaps are way worse on the left, and i believe the mini boss before hand it a lot worse
but u need less inturpts
which at high keys isnt an issue
as you would make a rotation before hand
pearl zinc
Jakey
Friend pal
Buddy
I’m thinking of doing prot warrior for Lemieux, do yall still scrollwheel ignore pain?
jagged pier
i dont personally
pearl zinc
Cause full disclosure, I liked bear in mop remix, but like I could not scroll wheel iron fur for the life of me
pearl zinc
i dont personally
Pog okay ty
fair sonnet
I can't live without zooming in and out
nothing is on MW for me ever, only with modifiers
jagged pier
u dont just spam IP there are other rage spenders u do press
pearl zinc
it does not work the same
Oh? Arnt they both ogcd tho?
pearl zinc
So like it’s the last one I’m priority or when u need
jagged pier
yes u press IP alot
pearl zinc
Ah I see
jagged pier
but just not all the time
a lot of ppl atm have a tendancy to over spend on IP
its not the biggest issue, but it can turn into an issue
pearl zinc
Oh
Okay I think I get it now
Ty fren
Now I gotta bother xeph if he has a prot warrior weakaura
If not I gotta make my own sound system
viscid lantern
i use it when above 70 rage or when i wait for a tank buster/ heavy magic dmg etc etc. Like an extra safety
pastel geyser
The /abandon vote has been a great addition, in my opinion, but there needs to b...
the easiest way they can do this is actually rework the useless report system.. theres nothing about trolling/griefing in there and something similar to what league reports look like would work
jagged pier
you basically only press IP if you are at like 70+ rage, because then u have 30 for SB when u need it
pastel geyser
then just check the gameplay if enough reports were given
like ive barely had leavers/trollers in m+ this season but goddamn the ones that did surely made it sure it was the worst experience ever for everyone
fathom oasis
then just check the gameplay if enough reports were given
They are never ever going to do that though
fathom oasis
In the end, even if you actually abandon the key, the punishment is kinda silly
You get tagged as a leaver for a little while
I don't see why we couldnt just have a vote system for people that intentionally grief a key
pastel geyser
true
atleast whenever i see a guy with leaver tag i make sure to never inv them lol
tbh id go as far as invite them and kick them as we are starting the key
cerulean tusk
If all 4 players send in a report for boosting/deranking on a grinder, they get removed from the group btw 
pastel geyser
really?
fathom oasis
Wut
pastel geyser
wdym a grinder tho
cerulean tusk
Seems to be how it works, grief er is not a word
fathom oasis
We all reported this one dude yesterday and it did nothing
pearl zinc
you basically only press IP if you are at like 70+ rage, because then u have 30 ...
:bearnotes:
fathom oasis
Only options to report are inappropriate name or communication, too
pearl zinc
Alrighty
Cause like I’m torn between fdk and prot warrior but on god, I miss playing my panda warrior
pastel geyser
why not both, ones a dps that requires 5iq to play and the other ones is a fun tank
cerulean tusk
When I get the AFK/offline guy, I just started to ask everyone to report. When we do they disappear out of the group
fathom oasis
They might be leaving on their own?
cerulean tusk
If we don't, they remain forever
fathom oasis
Idk
cerulean tusk
If I had to guess, there is some sort of tag in the system when you go offline. But it doesn't want to punish ppl outright. So it waits for the little extra
pearl zinc
why not both, ones a dps that requires 5iq to play and the other ones is a fun t...
I’m not gonna do 2 runs of lemix
pastel geyser
le what now
pastel geyser
When I get the AFK/offline guy, I just started to ask everyone to report. When w...
speaking of, i had a shaman who died like 5 times repeatedly in a +10 floodgate who then went offline
cerulean tusk
Pretty normal
pastel geyser
do they get leaver or not
pearl zinc
le what now
Legion remix
pastel geyser
i mean who said to do that
cerulean tusk
Also, if you play on EU, Kazzak server seems unstable. Every key with one from there, no matter how good/bad they perform, they just randomly go offline for 5 min
pearl zinc
Ew leveling up a alt normally
cerulean tusk
do they get leaver or not
Only if the system boots them, only the 1st guy to leave gets marked
pearl zinc
Lemix you get cool transmogs
pastel geyser
Also, if you play on EU, Kazzak server seems unstable. Every key with one from t...
tbh i have very bad experiences with russians especially. i legit avoid inviting any of them
super toxic
my first 'griefed' key was done by a tank+heal ruski combo we invited
cerulean tusk
I got the opposite, they are the ones who invite me and are just chill
pastel geyser
cuz i didnt do comparable dps to a destro lock in the 30 murloc pull as a fury lock in gambit
like.. bro
idk ive always had bad experiences with them since legion
cerulean tusk
Think you prob just got a mental sore spot for it, so are hyper aware when it happens. Brain do love making patterns and reinforcing it's belief in em
lunar flare
Also, if you play on EU, Kazzak server seems unstable. Every key with one from t...
Every kazzak player is mentally unstable too so that tracks
cerulean tusk
To me it seems more like a technical issue of sorts. As they do come back and say sorry. It doesn't matter how they perform or behave, it just happens
torpid dome
On P3 dimensius, how do you guys deal with the pull ropes on the active tank? Tank swap immediately on it, and then have the tank with the ropes heroic leap to the edge of the arena to make sure that the DPS have an as good as possible angle line of sight to work with?
dry skiff
i never really thought about it until now, is there a buff that we need to react to ?
not when cooldowns get reset. like a buff that changes rotation
jagged pier
yer tier set buff and, violent outburst
dry skiff
tier set how, we gain tunder blast proc. what's so special
torpid dome
Big damage
dry skiff
i know but i already do Thunder blast > shield slam on highest priority. how does the buff change it
jagged pier
Thats not correct and the tier set increases the damage of the next TB by 100%, which changes the prio
SS always unless TB has 2 charges
if it has 1 u still prio ss over it
then the rotation changes depending on target count
and violent outburst
dry skiff
does this charge come with 4p ? because i still dont have it and i have no idea about any charge
dry skiff
aaaa, i thought it was like 2 charges cooldown
strong forum
I’m thinking of doing prot warrior for Lemieux, do yall still scrollwheel ignore...
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