protection

[jagged pier]

im still higher than that

and not got it

[dusky canopy]

I gotta do ‘Murica shit this weekend with the family but if you don’t have it by next weekend we will no life that shit

I’ll bring some tank off spec homies

Jesus

[chrome falcon]

one of my friends is saying Tome got nerfed to have no ICD so it's like 50% uptime now, is that true?

or it's just bugged or

[wispy moth]

Thx for explanation, clear and concise. Big up on you (and yeah pin it xD)

[jagged pier]

it got nerfed too give less crit that was it, unless there is an undocumented change

but as of yesterday it was fine

[dusky canopy]

Actual criminal rng

[jagged pier]

[restive oak]

i got tome and i don't even want it

[lusty grotto]

yes you fucking do

[frosty mango]

Big bar mean big good right?

Right?

[round pendant]

I've never felt like tome does anything

but I know it's the best

so I use it

is tome shit in m+?

[restive oak]

is only good in raid

[round pendant]

eh it's still useful on bosses in dungeons surely

[plush tendon]

Tome is good in M+

lots of prio/ST damage

[warm plinth]

It's a single target trinket for the most part. That doesn't mean it's only good in raid.

[plush tendon]

I personally been runing Pace and Brand now

and swapping Brand with Soleahs (its all I got, but the trinkets off the first two bosses would be ideal) in Streets

Though Pace+Tome is prob very good in streets

[lusty grotto]

wrong

its better in raid

but its S-tier in keys

[warm plinth]

You're S-tier in keys

Gottem

[round pendant]

I just wish tome felt like it did something

I honestly prefer direct damage or damage proc trinkets

rather than glorified stat sticks

fwiw pacemaker is the same

[undone beacon]

What you don’t love randomly watching a glowing book pop up??

[warm plinth]

Though pacemaker does at least have main stat that is always active in addition to the crit.

[lusty grotto]

i dont, cause then we have details breakdowns here showing people playing terribly and having their trinkets cover for 75% of their damage

as a result

[round pendant]

at least my tome has secondaries

[plush tendon]

theres like a group of 5-6 trinkets that are all pretty good

[warm plinth]

I personally love when folks come in and be like oh man this did 20% of my damage! And you're just like well that's not good lol

Have you tried pressing buttons

[lusty grotto]

like the dudes that post brand damage

[frosty mango]

Imagine having brand

[lusty grotto]

and you can very obviously tell, they just dont press buttons

[plush tendon]

Arcanocore, Atenna, Pacemaker, Brand, Tome, Soleahs, Sacbrood. Just choose two, and be happy

[frosty mango]

You forgot cursed stone idol

[plush tendon]

Idol is cool

[frosty mango]

We like to live dangerously

[plush tendon]

but the channel is a bit sketch

[frosty mango]

Shockwave > channel

[plush tendon]

not something id use in a real key; rather play safe

[frosty mango]

Hope it’s not on Dr

[plush tendon]

but fun for ~~small ~~weekly keys

[frosty mango]

Healers adjust

[plush tendon]

yea, shockwaving to use a trinket is hella troll

if you need a CC rotation

[solid cargo]

Did 10s last night farming drops. Love that weird little cursed idol

[warm plinth]

Idk I'd just send it tbh lol

[lusty grotto]

channel for 1s less than beacon or grieftorch, "oh its a bit of a troll"

[warm plinth]

We've used more dangerous trinkets

[plush tendon]

there are safer and other good options

[lusty grotto]

reminder that beacon and grieftorch were 2s casts

[round pendant]

just shockwave first

[lusty grotto]

not a 1s cast

[frosty mango]

Ngl it did almost get me killed in dawnbreaker

[solid cargo]

Just shield wall first

[frosty mango]

I pulled like 5 packs in the church and got a little zealous and hit it thinking I’d be able to refresh sb but sb fell off just as I was hitting it

I got greedy, flew too close to the sun

[lusty grotto]

thats the best kind of greed

[frosty mango]

Also low key is dawn breaker the most dangerous key?

[solid sun]

I loved that tornado trinket

[jagged pier]

for prot yes

[solid sun]

It was so sick

[frosty mango]

I’m cranking in every other key but dawnbreaker has some booty clinchers for us

[solid cargo]

Dots. Our nemesis

[frosty mango]

Got blasted by a tainted slash in a db15

Made me very scared

[plush tendon]

whats scary about Dawn?

[chrome falcon]

yeah every tainted slash

[plush tendon]

feels more like a healer check key

[chrome falcon]

is fucking panic stations

[chrome falcon]

miniboss+upstairs pack in cathedral?

[frosty mango]

Unblockable bleeds and magic

[undone beacon]

Ran with a prot pally in a 10 dawn who had a vet brand, it was his top damage

[chrome falcon]

i eat shit on that pull every run

[frosty mango]

Uh after first boss I pull the pack outside the back door and all the packs at the bottom of the stairs

It’s like 4-5 packs

But there’s a commander and 3 tainted dudes and one of those shadow swirly guys

[wispy moth]

Oh so when brand fell down in 5 or 6th place in my meter, this isnt because it didnt deal damage, it's just because I played better ? XD

[frosty mango]

I don’t know mobs names I just call them by what they do

“Tainted slash guy” and “swirly shadow guy”

[solid cargo]

Hey same

[undone beacon]

I pull all the packs at each church door. I go in through the side, do that and the big pack in middle, then chain the other two doors, then mini boss

[solid cargo]

I barely learn boss names lol

[undone beacon]

I hate the stupid courtyard so I get most of my trash at the church

[frosty mango]

My db route isn’t meta but I like it better

Healers be damned

[plush tendon]

I do this for DB

[undone beacon]

Meta be damned I’m the tank is my 2/10 route

[plush tendon]

the scariest pull is pull 8

with the heal reduction

[wispy moth]

I named it in position : "Yeah you know the priory's first boss"

[undone beacon]

Fucking hate looking at Dawn in MDT/threechest it’s incomprehensible to me

[wispy moth]

Can you share it ?

[plush tendon]

why?

[plush tendon]

the fuck is pull 6

[wispy moth]

Bahahah ok

[frosty mango]

pull 6 looks awful but its really not

[undone beacon]

I just can’t visualize it well in my minds eye

[wispy moth]

I almost do the same

[plush tendon]

[wispy moth]

The only prob in pull 6 is the big guy and his debuff

[frosty mango]

theres like 2 casters and you just grip them

[blazing ridge]

Got called bad for pulling like 6 without the front 2 and the group down left

[warm plinth]

Ah yes, with my grip

[frosty mango]

huge efficiency gains

[undone beacon]

I drop the extra shadow in 6 and pull the pack to the right of 8 as well

[warm plinth]

How silly of me

[solid cargo]

Said "uh, the mech boss" in a guild floodgate key the other day lol

[undone beacon]

Imagine not learning boss names, fucking PLEBS

[blazing ridge]

I pulled 6 frontals back away from the group healer instant dead next frontal rogue dead

[chrome falcon]

are you BLing pull 7 or something

that looks fucking horrible

[undone beacon]

Big M.O.M.M.A. Deserves respect

[chrome falcon]

i struggle there without the outside pack even

[warm plinth]

Ngl i don't know most boss names but I do know big momma

[lusty grotto]

i did pull 6 a lot in s1

[blazing ridge]

"Why pull this you stupid" in chat they said frontal is bugged they can't see

[frosty mango]

https://threechest.io?id=x3ugnblxmf

[solid cargo]

I know swampass's name because I made that joke once and it stuck in my brain

[frosty mango]

usually yes depending on timing but on higher keys I think we'll need to split it bc third boss is kinda doodoo

[undone beacon]

I pull things that I wanna pull if they wanna question it they shoulda picked a diff tank smh

[warm plinth]

Like first boss in flood is just duo, swampboi is third, idk wtf the last guy's name is

Could not tell you any of the boss names in Dawn except last guy begins with an R

[undone beacon]

Bront and Keeza Quickfuse, Big Momma, Swampface, Geezle Gigazap

[lusty grotto]

gigazap is what i call him cause thats what he does

[frosty mango]

pull 9 in my route is heal intensive, pull 10 is small and designed to let healer cds come back before boss which is poop to heal

[lusty grotto]

oh

thats his name

[plush tendon]

yea, that pull 6 lowers my pull count by 1

if its doable... could be cool

[frosty mango]

pull 6 looks bad but its not

pull 7 is the danger

[lusty grotto]

it was doable in s1

why wouldnt it be doable now

[frosty mango]

but pull 7 you can LOS it

you can LOS half of those mechanics

[lusty grotto]

you just have to dodge frontals, its fun

[undone beacon]

Speaker Shadowcrown, Anub”Ikkaj, and Rashanan

[chrome falcon]

a lot of the packs in/around the cathedral were changed

[undone beacon]

Respect the bosses nerd

[chrome falcon]

but i'm not sure which if any outside

[plush tendon]

why not try this?

[chrome falcon]

the pack inside the cathedral is absolutely fucking rancid now

[wispy moth]

Depends on how they change the dung like OvO

[warm plinth]

Actually someone asked me yesterday if you can los the slam on the tank in dawn (as not the tank)

[solid cargo]

I call him gigazap because I think he's a Pokémon and he says it all the time

Mfw that's his name

[plush tendon]

and not do your cathedral pull?

[solid cargo]

Reminds me of John Bonestorm, first boss of ICC

[warm plinth]

John Bonestorm lmao

[lusty grotto]

ah yes John Bonestorm

[undone beacon]

You dare question me? Face annihilationnn

[warm plinth]

I'm about to kill them. They'll have to make do without it.

[frosty mango]

pull very 6 is irritating to play bc you cant los casters inside

[undone beacon]

Second favorite voice line this xpac.

[frosty mango]

prefer coming back side of church to abuse los/choke

[plush tendon]

I pull the mini boss outside

[undone beacon]

First being “BACK TO THE BUSINESS OF OUSTING THE OUTSIDERS”

[plush tendon]

and theres only 1 caster

oh wait, which pull 6 you talking about

[solid cargo]

I rp a warrior with brain damage ok. I'm just doing good RP by not knowing anything about what I'm fighting

[plush tendon]

the one with the mini boss or the two 4 packs

[warm plinth]

Trash trash trash trash traaaaaaash is mine

Though I guess technically that's a bfa voice line

[undone beacon]

That is BFA, but I’ll give it a pass

I also like “Bust out the big bombs, boys” because alliteration

[humble swift]

How good is the tome? Even when its hero track?

[undone beacon]

Very good

[frosty mango]

https://threechest.io?id=x3ugnblxmf

[lusty grotto]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/bis-gear#trinkets

[frosty mango]

thats what I run on higher keys

not as efficient but much more comfy

[humble swift]

Yeah i know its S tier trinket

I got one in the vault🤓

[plush tendon]

I dont like that pull 11

I honestly prefer the other route

but I hate your church pulls

[lusty grotto]

then why do you ask

[undone beacon]

Pull the whole church and each of the doors

In one pull

Like a man

[humble swift]

Cause its the first time that i got one in there

And never had it dropped before

[lusty grotto]

but you know its S tier

so why ask how good is it?

[undone beacon]

Short answer, it’s good

Long answer, it’s very good priority/ST damage when used properly

Summary: it’s good

[chrome falcon]

from my friend in a 12 eco dome

looks like tome is bugged

2.5% of his damage

[lusty grotto]

...

thats

normal

matta youre not memeing are you?

[tight hinge]

brand is just obscene af

[chrome falcon]

no man i just never got this fucking trinket last season after 40 runs so i gave up and i don't have it this season

he's saying it seems really low for him

[lusty grotto]

2.5% in overall is normal tome damage

BUT IT GIVES YOU CRIT

its not just whatever fucking dumb shit shows up in details

[turbid yoke]

Feels like the haste vers neck? i have brand and antenna HC

[chrome falcon]

how much crit at max hero

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

[chrome falcon]

i can't check without actually having the trinket

[nocturne spindle]

6600 while procced

3300 base

[lusty grotto]

just check sense s1 logs

and its around 2-3% for its nuke

that's not the sole reason why its good

[nocturne spindle]

its also more single

[lusty grotto]

absolutely

[chrome falcon]

right understood ty ty

look man this dude was the top io prot pala last patch that just shows you the state of that class

[blazing ridge]

When I pull 8 people will all day to frontals 100% sure, then they fly back right into the next frontal

Even after telling them the route beforehand and saying they need to watch frontals

Last run resto druid died to it doing cat weave shenanigans and called me out for this stupid pull

[torpid dome]

I guess there's only 1 logical choice, which isas the shoulders

[frosty mango]

Not only crit, but a lot of crit

[rough egret]

Yeah

[frosty mango]

Like a substantial amount of crit

[rough egret]

You got new shoulders ggs 🙂

[torpid dome]

yeah exactly :-p unfortunately no trink,better luck next time

[rough egret]

Did 4 halls no legs 🙁

[jagged pier]

i like void emissary week

[lusty grotto]

yup execute pad is real

[undone beacon]

The real tech is wrecking throw pad

[tribal wharf]

i remember when void emmisarry first came out they were super scary

unless dps

[rough egret]

Eww

[undone beacon]

Pad is pad

[rough egret]

Less executes 😄

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20591327

[lusty grotto]

zet is right though

you cant reverse funnel if you kill it fast

you want that executable target for exe cleave

[undone beacon]

Yeah but I wanna throw shit Nim

I’m optimizing dopamine by throwing bricks at void ghosts

[lusty grotto]

fair

[main thistle]

what champ and what ability does the pushing the mobs out and then instantly pull them in in a stack?

i mean what class

[rough egret]

Druid

[main thistle]

feral?

[rough egret]

Its vortex typhoon combo

[main thistle]

oh

can dk do something similiar?

[rough egret]

Yes, DH aswell

[undone beacon]

Pack Leader hunters can also do this

[sweet palm]

Hey guys, what should I take from vault in your opinion?

Currently have hero tier legs, hero mud and hero so'leah's as trinkets

[undone beacon]

Binding Shot (with Horsehair Tether) + Bursting Shot

[undone beacon]

There’s not even a question to ask here you take the tome

And replace the hero mud

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

just link the post pash

[sweet palm]

damn didn't see that, thanks a lot!

[undone beacon]

Good call will start doing that

I just like typing the word tome

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/lolol-dummy-laughing-pointing-on-you-gif-15125641

@lusty grotto

[undone beacon]

Tome F tier cuz warriors illiterate

[plush tendon]

the vault choose pin is ok

but it doesnt list TMOG at number 1

[undone beacon]

Everything I do I do for the love of the mog

[plush tendon]

I level is temporary, IO is temporary

but TMOG is forever

[undone beacon]

I’m already saving vet and champ pieces for the end of season in case I don’t get the looks

[plush tendon]

the delve items are really good

[undone beacon]

I got so many S2 sets with delve gear it was great

Got all the sets for my Druid, warr, hunter, and monk

[plush tendon]

you can buy the items off the vendor after you finish the delve season

and thats LFR mog

then just upgrade it

[undone beacon]

Yeah that’s what I did

I had a billion undercoins so

[plush tendon]

I gotta make sure I do it on my paladin

I might need a second paladin

I like the current Pala mog

[undone beacon]

Yeah but then you’re playing a paladin

Stinky

[plush tendon]

My Paladin got a mythic shield from vault

on a one key a week budget

I also refuse to play lightsmith on that thing

I dont care if numbies are better

[lusty grotto]

[night heron]

Hello!
Does anyone know how useful is Avoidance for high-end M+? Like, what % of the damage we take is AoE?
I have a myth-track hands tier piece with avoidance in my vault. Other vault items have higher DPS increase right now tho, because my hands are already 704 ilevel.
But I'm thinking that taking hands with avoidance could still be worth it in the long run if it's actually a good stat for tanks.

[lusty grotto]

not useful

for vault advice see here #protection message

tertiaries arent worth a pick over other more impacting slots and/or track jumps

[undone beacon]

Socket (when applicable) > Leech > Speed > Avoidance

[lusty grotto]

also avoidance is our worst tertiary since we're tanks

yes

what pash said

[undone beacon]

Or if you’re based and fastpilled then Speed >>>>> All

[lusty grotto]

i saw that Nav

[lunar flare]

Avoid avoidance HEHE

[night heron]

Alright then I'm not gonna bother giving up better short-term upgrades

[lusty grotto]

did you read the linked post

[harsh trellis]

Screenshot your vault

I mean how many options do you have

[night heron]

I did, I just meant that myth hands with avoidance is still better then myth hands without avoidance

[undone beacon]

Avoidance is never worth giving anything up for. If it’s a 1-1 upgrade but the new piece has avoidance then cool, but it’s not to be sought out

That’s all

Having a stat is better than no stat but it’s not worth seeking out

[mighty valley]

yeah, no tertiaries are, but ESPECIALLY not avoidance

[lusty grotto]

i mean sure, they are slightly better, but not at the cost of other picks

[undone beacon]

This guy isn’t speed pilled

[lusty grotto]

very very very slightly

[undone beacon]

Normal move speed lookin ass

[blazing ridge]

Speed so good

[night heron]

Yeah that's what I wanted to check

[lusty grotto]

but only cause you get something bonus out of it

avoidance in general is no bueno for us, like we've said

[night heron]

Just out of curiosity though, does anyone know what's the average % of AoE damage we take throughout a dungeon?

[lusty grotto]

you should 100% NOT pick myth gloves if you already have myth gloves

[harsh trellis]

avoidance is just low level aoe magic reduction right?

[night heron]

I guess that varies a lot depending on the dungeon

[harsh trellis]

shit dps worries about

[lusty grotto]

not worth considering

we dont die to aoe

you can be afk

and not die to aoe

as a tank

[mighty valley]

it varies a lot but yeah, unavoidable aoe is tuned to threaten a baby dps's health bar

[lusty grotto]

☝️

[night heron]

Yeah, I was just curious about if it's something like 0,5% or 5% of the damage we take

[torpid dome]

What mitigatipn do you guys use on the tank breath on nexus king?

[night heron]

But I did take note that Avoidance is never worth

[lusty grotto]

not really gonna bother getting those numbers

cause its a non issue

but feel free

[jagged pier]

spellward

but really u only have IP SW AND SR

better stack em

[lusty grotto]

i mean this is assuming youre not going face forward into avoidable aoe of course

[undone beacon]

Just talent spell breaker and gamble on your 8% chance 50% DR

Pull lives or dies on spell breaker like god intended

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

I was fine with just wall and SR, barely felt it and the raid HP barely moved

[harsh trellis]

Honestly, I hit that with a shield block and an ignore pain

raid health didnt move

[torpid dome]

alr

last sunday me tanking the breath killed the raid lmao

[undone beacon]

Did you have the tankbuster debuff?

Cosmic maw or something

[harsh trellis]

Do you have a log?

[undone beacon]

Also anyone else caught in the breath will echo damage too so if you point it wrong or have braindead people standing in it, you’re screwed

[torpid dome]

probably yes

lemme check

[undone beacon]

Yeah that doubles the breath damage you take, supposed to do a taunt swap there

[torpid dome]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/M4j2nwv8XprbYxLR?fight=last

[wispy moth]

SR?

Spell reflection?

[jagged pier]

yes its a magtic dr

[wispy moth]

Yeah sure, wasn't sure what Sr means

Thx for answer

[small garden]

Got 4p set, is it better to run MT ?

[torpid dome]

yeah I ate no maw

[harsh trellis]

https://www.wipefest.gg/report/M4j2nwv8XprbYxLR/fight/last?filters=raid-0HCR02MH090T0D%2C3134-C6F1C7D1D2T7A1S9C9C0D5K1S7R1R2C1D4D6K3K4S8SDSN&fightSummaryTab=timeline&gameVersion=warcraft-live

[torpid dome]

so I think I just forgot to mitigate / didnt expect I needed it

[harsh trellis]

use wipefest

its so much nicer

That is a fun fight

we just started on heroic dimensius

[undone beacon]

We’re doin H Dimmy tonight

[lusty grotto]

both bosses are fun

[undone beacon]

Big excite

[lusty grotto]

i just hate dimmy as a melee

well p1 specifically

[undone beacon]

I like Salhaadar a lot but people in my group were struggling P3

[lusty grotto]

my only gripe with this raid is that the hitboxes are just..

so ridiculous

Loomi for example

last phase the melee max range is practically non existant

[undone beacon]

Yeah I don’t get the hitboxes for some of these bosses at all

They take away reach from most melee then fuck the hitboxes

Thanks blizz

[lusty grotto]

last night i was getting issues on fracty too

placing walls, randomly going out of melee range

and then did it on my DH split and had no issues at all

was the most random shit

none of that happened last week

or the week before

idk

[harsh trellis]

we found placing the orbs closer to center helped.

not all the way on the outside

[lusty grotto]

but the hitboxes on loomy and dimmy for sure have been consistently atrocious

[undone beacon]

Frac is just such a weird boss imo because on paper it’s cool but the fact that it’s basically completely solved by WAs is a lil lame

[lusty grotto]

p1 for dimmy, last phase for loomy

[woven torrent]

guys i assume if the cd on tome to advance pages is the trinket cd i should start boss fights on sword mode , wait for it to change to shield then manually change to sword?

or how does it work

[lusty grotto]

yea pretty much

[undone beacon]

Like on our first heroic pull I didn’t even bother doing callouts and we killed it

[lusty grotto]

it doesnt share trinket cd

as in it doesnt trigger it

[woven torrent]

yeah but i mean how exactly do u minmax it?

[lusty grotto]

if you mean the double on use thing

just press it when you go to shield to go back to sword

its that simple

the goal is to be in sword more all the time

there's no min maxing

[woven torrent]

should i start in shield then use it on pull?

or start in sword then

[lusty grotto]

just start in whatever state it is

when it swaps to shield you use it to swap to sword

i think i mentioned that

dont use it pre-pull

once again, there's no min maxing here

when i said it doesnt trigger trinket cd, i meant the on-use "shared" cd between trinkets

it will be on cd if you pre emptively swap to sword

honestly it really doesnt matter

[solid sun]

How we doing today

[plush tendon]

Im doing alright, thanks for asking

[torpid dome]

yeah defo haha

hope tonight we get to dimensius

[jagged pier]

@lusty grotto up to 30 now

still no trinket

[lusty grotto]

ok let me make this simple:

theres never any situation where you want to stay in shield mode

if youre shield mode before the pull then youre doing something wrong

[lusty grotto]

i have to run keys on dh or else i would keep going

[slender bison]

What you guys farming? The tome?

[lusty grotto]

no, shields and shoulders

[harsh trellis]

Mud

I want mudddddd

[lusty grotto]

that was sarcasm

[mellow bridge]

i heccin love taza hm

lost the 80% roll of getting a useful item

15 items, 12 wouldve been an upgrade atp

[ocean iron]

18 priories, more than half with multiple traders 0 trinkets

[mellow bridge]

[ocean iron]

im going to break my monitor

[lusty grotto]

oh dont worry

thats not as bad as 49 runs multiple traders

[jagged pier]

bro i have nearly double

[ocean iron]

bro

[lusty grotto]

which is where im headed for the 2nd season in a row!

[ocean iron]

i dont want to keep doing this

im going crazy

I hate this dungeon

[harsh trellis]

Take a break

[lusty grotto]

right side is chill

but yeah i get it

[harsh trellis]

Dont melt your brain

[slender bison]

I ran pace + mud + 2 set to 3k last week. Mud was really good in a post spell block life

[jagged pier]

yer like i didnt run keys for 5 days last week

[harsh trellis]

Run gambit for funsies

[jagged pier]

but im now in run 8 keys a week and afk mode

[lusty grotto]

just to think i have to do the farm on my DH

at least last season this fucking toon got it in like 4 runs

[ocean iron]

as soon as i get this trinket im on 8 keys a week mode till my group wants to push

[lusty grotto]

but now, im not so sure

[ocean iron]

but I need this fucking trinket to drop first

[lusty grotto]

i still dont have pace either lmao

thats why flood has been hardstuck at 7

last season at least i got that one early

[ocean iron]

is pacemaker better than raid trinket?

[solid sun]

No

[lusty grotto]

no

but im not getting brand soon

[solid sun]

But it’s good

[jagged pier]

i mean for shorter fights so most fights on normal and hc it is better than brand

[ocean iron]

im 3rd in line for tank trinket so ill get a heroic one sooner than later

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats true

[jagged pier]

as brand doesnt have time to ramp

[lusty grotto]

im still a trial, and i dont raid as tank

so im on the backseat

cant open vault as prot either

until big 2h

[solid sun]

Yeah I should start being more careful with my answers ig. I always come from the m+ perspective

[jagged pier]

[ocean iron]

guess im farming pacemaker after i get this god damn book

[solid sun]

I’m such a mini game player

Be kind to yourself

If it stops being fun, do something fun

[ocean iron]

i want to start working on my DH and monk tanks but i need these trinkets first man

i keep trying to queue keys on my dh and i see a priory up and im like hmm maybe i should do that on the warr

[wild sun]

hey lads who is a good streamer to watch that plays prot warr? i legit feel so lost playing prot like he doesn't feel nearly as fluid as brewmaster or vdh and i know it shouldn't be like this lol

[jagged pier]

watch sense on yt

[solid sun]

Me what’s up

[jagged pier]

its called parry

[fair beacon]

Question: on mythic 4th boss, we need to knock small adds into the black hole to make them attackable. can I use the MENACE upgrade on my intimidating shout to help?

[solid sun]

You need a real supple wrist

To adequately angle your sword correctly

But then you also need some strength to deflect the attacks

[lusty grotto]

no

is this nexus king?

[stiff raven]

Hi Folks, can someone advise how to many duration displayed on a wa icon ? im using luxthos pack and it shows cooldown by default on shield block, i would like to change it to duration

[lusty grotto]

logs break

in nexus king

cause of distance

[idle copper]

First boss on Dawn - is she bugged, 70% of the time she wont reposition at all after the circles go down?

[lusty grotto]

between platforms

theres one platform you will have NO DATA on

all the time

unless the logs are merged

and you have loggers on both of them

[lusty grotto]

thats been the case since s1

[frozen berry]

I hate her for this reason

[lusty grotto]

just do wide moves

[idle copper]

she seems a lot worse this season

[lusty grotto]

plant feet

unfortunate but

its the only thing you can do aside from having smart ranged bait correctly

and hope someone kicks

[idle copper]

doesnt help people are dropping the circles on/by her (ranged)

[lusty grotto]

try here #ui-addons-manager

[lusty grotto]

sometimes baits go on healers

so MW and HPal are kinda fucked, but its not consistent

pres is kinda fucked as well

[solid sun]

Is two stacks of the ring debuff mostly just a you’re dead situation on H Dimmy

[lusty grotto]

i dont think so

but

it might be due to gear levels

[solid sun]

Because on N my squad is not good at avoiding two stacks

[lusty grotto]

just get close to the one thats exploding

and rotate around the boss

to the direction of the next one

you want to take the first ring ASAP

so be right in front of it

[solid sun]

Okie dokes

[shrewd grove]

It's definitely a "pop a defensive or you're dead" for prog at least.

[chilly brook]

nah, at least it wasn't on my DH

just ate that shizz like a champ

[jagged gust]

I was trying to pay attention but couldn't pick up the pattern before he died, is there a set sequence of ring detonations?

Like first to pop up is first to pop

[chilly brook]

yeah it just goes in order of appearance

[thorn remnant]

any suggestions?

[mighty valley]

sim

[round pendant]

bruh rsham PUMPS

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

[round pendant]

neck is basically bis no?

[thorn remnant]

@yam wowhead has the haste/vers neck, but I guess so yeah

[mighty valley]

bis lists are basically meaningless tbh

they're just like "if you had all the gear in the game, what should you wear"

[round pendant]

yeah that's bis within the context of having all the other gear I imagine

[mighty valley]

but it's pretty unlikely you'll get all the gear in the game lol

[lusty grotto]

yup

[thorn remnant]

its just that our tier has way more crit than vers i guess

[mighty valley]

yeah you'll be happy with basically any myth neck with high haste

unlike last season, there are a lot of those from m+

[thorn remnant]

Ima just take the neck, tnx for the input

[round pendant]

fwiw idk what the stats on the ring are

[thorn remnant]

haste/vers

[round pendant]

I'd go neck for sure

[plush tendon]

both are good

maybe run hardmode rq

both drop from there as well

[undone beacon]

[plush tendon]

so it could be a why not both angle

[thorn remnant]

its my 4th tank playtime wise, no idea if that guy is gonna see hm

[mighty valley]

what ilvl does hard mode drop

[undone beacon]

/nick Pash, Emissary of

hehehe

[plush tendon]

hero track, but deathless is a free mythic piece

from Taz

[undone beacon]

Myth 1/6 for deathless

Hero 1/6 off bosses

[mighty valley]

it's a random box though right

[plush tendon]

also, doing HM counts as 2 +10 for vault I think

so its kind of wurf

[undone beacon]

Yeah you get a random piece of TV loot for deathless, could be a codex

[plush tendon]

its not that hard now; you basically only die from silly things

but if you can, get a group to run it every week

[solid sun]

What do you consider a silly thing

[undone beacon]

Our hunter throwing a bomb on postmaster to the middle of nowhere and letting it pop

[plush tendon]

we died last week cause we didnt know that the gluttony debuff (the thing you get to absorb orbs on menagerie) did friendly fire

[undone beacon]

That pissed me OFF, he’s not invited to our clear this week

[plush tendon]

literally timed a 15 streets.... wipe to fucking menagerie cause that mechanic doenst exist in M+ but I guess it does on HM?

[cerulean tusk]

wait

it aint FF in normal M+?

[undone beacon]

It’s tuned wrong for M+, the lethal force has the same issue IIRC

[cerulean tusk]

I always thought it was

[plush tendon]

it is, but it doesnt tick for 5 mill a second

[undone beacon]

Couple things in streets don’t scale with the key

[plush tendon]

so we never noticed it

[undone beacon]

Gluttony and Lethal Force being the main offenders

[plush tendon]

until HM

[lavish rivet]

Was messing around in HoA last week with Intervene and SR on boss 2, and managed to get a "reflect" on Stone Shattering Leap. Not sure if it was a deflect or true reflect, don't have a log, but I wanted to mention it in case someone wanted to test.

If it interacts like the frontal from boss 1 of Necrotic Wake, could be pretty gud.

[lusty grotto]

ok thanks for the heads up

will test it out for sure

[plush tendon]

but HM aint hard, but the extra stress of no one dying really gets people on edge

its only +120% from base mythic with no affix (so no tyran or fort)

[solid sun]

My dps died on every boss

[plush tendon]

but every week should get easier; dps do more dammies so bosses fall over faster

[hoary spear]

Is this a tad too much Haste? 😮

[lusty grotto]

whats the rating

percents mean nothing with ITF

[red beacon]

anyone know if there is a haste cap ? Cause my simc are rating haste really poorly on dmg

[lusty grotto]

sims stop going haste after 20k

and you should not

25-27k is when you want to stop

[mighty valley]

ok yeah you can prio other stats now lol

[hoary spear]

ok i'll change my gems

because their all Haste/ Crit

[red beacon]

I'm at 22k

[hoary spear]

maybe I go full crit on gems

[red beacon]

but Crit simc like 3 times the amount

[lusty grotto]

no

full stat gems are bad for us

[hoary spear]

so crit/ vers?

[lusty grotto]

sure

[mighty valley]

whichever sims best

[lusty grotto]

even mastery ones

[hoary spear]

ok thank you friend

[lusty grotto]

but yeah what harrow said

[hoary spear]

I thought mastery was ass for us?

ok i'll sim

[mighty valley]

stats aren't far apart for us

if all else is equal, mastery does the least for us

[lusty grotto]

its not

its lowest prio but its not ass, its good

[hoary spear]

ok thank you!

[mighty valley]

since people avoid it so much, it often sims as the best dps stat by far

until you get a little of it lol

[lusty grotto]

that doesnt surprise me

[red beacon]

Haste simc so low for me

[lusty grotto]

did you read?

what i said?

all 3 lines

[red beacon]

Is tankiness hurt a lot by not going haste tho ?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[lament osprey]

For salad bar during starkiller swing, it’s just face the strike and dr?

[lusty grotto]

because it will make you have gaps in SB uptime

SB is a hastened cd, it NEEDS haste

its the #1 reason we go haste and we swap talents from ITF to HR and vice versa

[hoary spear]

I really miss Demolish as prot, shame hardly anyone runs it

[red beacon]

at 21800 haste my uptime on SB is 99% on MM +15

I feel like i can drop a bit

[lusty grotto]

please dont say mm

thats marksmanship

[mighty valley]

are you playing heavy repercussions?

[red beacon]

Nope

Into the frey

[hoary spear]

Oh that's a point! maybe I can switch to that now I have so much haste

I took the other one when my haste was low

[mighty valley]

other way around, if your haste is high enough to allow it, you take ITF

heavy repercussions is the one that lets you have high sb uptime at low haste

[hoary spear]

Really!? 😮

ok

Im sure I read it as the other way around but ok

[red beacon]

Yeah Repercusion is good when you cant maintain the SB

[mighty valley]

it's a little counterintuitive since people are like "i'll take the haste talent since I have low haste"

[plush flint]

So if haste really drops off at 20k ish, ehy is ITF good then? It gives more haste?

[mighty valley]

but heavy rep does so much more for sb uptime than raw haste

[red beacon]

I wonder what is the haste cap for maintening 100% SB uptime

Need to do some maths

[mighty valley]

because HR's damage gain is negligible by comparison, a big haste bump from ITF is still better than that even if haste is falling compared to other damage stats

[glacial kestrel]

Hi. Does anybody know how powerful the Manaforge Reshiwrap boots are? I have them on champion but I am nto sure if I should use them or my regular hero track boots

[red beacon]

They are insane imo

[lusty grotto]

dont

use hero

[mighty valley]

the effect isn't worth dropping ilvl for

[lusty grotto]

^

[mighty valley]

the effect is free so they're the best boots at their ilvl but

a track up is still gonna be better

[rough egret]

Maybe once we get to use dps cloaks

[glacial kestrel]

Thank yo uvery much guys, I can give it to somebody else then

[plush flint]

Is this planned?

[lavish rivet]

I kinda miss when we could just say, "5100 haste for ~100% uptime" and that was that :/

[lusty grotto]

id ont

[rough egret]

No no, im not aware of it 🙂 just yapin

[jagged gust]

Well we can again now, with the exception of if you're still running the old belt

Even so belt just says you need a couple thousand less haste than otherwise

[hoary spear]

Omg you called it, it's suggesting Mastery/ Vers gems...

With crit enchants on rings

[native ember]

wtf everytime i run a sim for prot it fails

[lusty grotto]

check your apl

delete anything in custom apl

and/or shift + f5 to clear cache

[sharp merlin]

Soulbinder Embrace better than Mud Myth from last season?

[lusty grotto]

yes

[native ember]

ah yes ty sir do we still need the apl for tome cause i couldnt find it in the pins

[lusty grotto]

depending on dungeon but

mud can pull ahead in big dot dungeons like flood

so its situational

1 min cd all the time is hard to beat though

[sharp merlin]

fair enough

Mud just never fails me

LOL

[lusty grotto]

yeah i mentioned dot dungeons because of the CDR

if it doesnt go below 1 min cd, then embrace is a million times better

both are beat by nucleus though

those are the only 3 defensive trinkets worth considering

ethergause is good too but... its limited to hero track and its not really big on the defensive part

[torpid dome]

unfortunately nobrand of ire 🙁 DId get the boots tho

[lusty grotto]

gz

[sharp merlin]

it's 1 min? the Embrace?

ah man, it has strength too

I can't.. not say hello to that 😄

[lusty grotto]

its also a partial shield

[torpid dome]

and were back at nexus king 😄 progging time

[lusty grotto]

so its like a mini bomb suit

[tawdry fjord]

Possible to cheese last boss ara kara with leap? 🙂

[lunar flower]

yep

[rough egret]

Yes

[tawdry fjord]

So leap out at like, 0.5 sec or something? 🙂

[lunar flower]

I've been doing it at 0.8 w/o any issues

[tawdry fjord]

ty ty

[unborn vigil]

Not sure on timing, but if you're standing under the boss at the last second there's kind of a "bump" that causes your character to jump in the air. I leap when that bump happens.

[round pendant]

dh tank just killed the entire party with his slam in a +9 HoA

that takes talent

[warm plinth]

[hollow sphinx]

i got a mythic head via m+, can i change it into a mythic t-set piece?

[mellow bridge]

sure

[lusty grotto]

streets bugging is dumb

[toxic pewter]

What bugging in streets

Do the musical instruments still bug out

[lusty grotto]

this

nobody can pick it up

whats worse is this is so late in the dungeon

/abandon

and gg

[carmine solstice]

My rule of thumb is just don’t run streets 👍

[toxic pewter]

Damn that’s awful

Would hate for a solid run to just end like that

Actually reminds me of when couldn’t pick up instruments in shadowlands

That also sucked. That entire area needs to just be redone where you don’t have to pick anything up anymore to be honest

[azure crag]

You find thor's hammer only to learn that nobody in your party is worthy

smh

https://tenor.com/view/thor-odin-whosoever-holds-this-hammer-if-he-be-worthy-shall-possess-the-power-of-thor-gif-15587639

[lusty grotto]

it wasnt a solid run

but it was timeable

[cerulean tusk]

Aint enough till you reach 0.75 gcd

[heavy sparrow]

Oh man. Like dawn breaker not spawning adds or bosses

[lusty grotto]

shearchip not having a good time doing vault keys

11 ara cooked into abandon cause dumbies start dps on the run down, and cant kick

[warm plinth]

Yeah streets is fucked between the trade and the mail room bugs

[lusty grotto]

wipe to boss cause defensives dont exist -> abandon

and then this

[warm plinth]

When i had the perma mail room button, I couldnt use the instrument button either

So had to do the whole oasis fight with no damage budf

Buff

[tawny citrus]

What do I want here?

Myth chest piece? I can upgrade mine to 710 and catalyst it to tier piece though
Neck is haste/mastery

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

[blazing shuttle]

May I just say.

The Tier Set can literally be a "suffering from success" at times?

I've had like 5/6 Thunder Blast resets in a row. If not more.

I wondered when it would stop.

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto should I take myth tome from my vault?

[blazing shuttle]

TOOOOOOOOOOOME

[tawny citrus]

Idk why some streamers say that Tome ain't worth it on prot warrior though, like Kira for example

[blazing shuttle]

These people are on another level we are not on.

[solid sun]

What’s the mail room bug @warm plinth

[lavish rivet]

With Haste Food (+470), R3 Oil (+232), R3 Flask (+2825), Enduring Alacrity, 2/2 Wild Strikes, and 4 stacks of ITF, it's 28,846 base haste rating on gear for 100% SB uptime with NO external haste multipliers/trinkets/belt, etc.. I could have made an error somewhere, because my multipliers for the talents might be off. Caveat: That's with perfect play, no tolerance for lag, misplay, human error, etc...

Realistically though, chasing infinite uptime is bad imo. You get some real tolerance out of movment, charging, leaping, downtime, pull-to-pull, etc..

[gusty cypress]

do i craft a shield or sword first? oO

[warm plinth]

Twice now I've had it keep the button on my screen which prevented me from picking up further ones, doing the trades, or using the Oasis thing

[tawny citrus]

Shield

[gusty cypress]

thanks ape

[tawny citrus]

No problem twig

[gusty cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[warm plinth]

% haste talents have no effect on your haste rating

% haste anything actually

Nvm I misread your message

🏃‍♂️‍➡️

[lavish rivet]

Was just following up on some ol Dragonflight nostalgia when we had a concrete number to chase, haha. Hasn't been realistic all xpac, even with the gear inflation :/

[warm plinth]

Yeah realistically you need 100% haste I think right

To actually have 100% uptime

Because of how cooldown reduction from haste is valculated

Calculated

[torpid dome]

RIP

[jagged pier]

100% haste is without anytalents just gcd

[jagged gust]

ah the ol' one step forward two steps back

[warm plinth]

Well I'm saying after everything, your actual haste % would have to be 100%. Not that you'd need 100% haste from rating

[lavish rivet]

With a Shield Charge every 45 seconds, you need 37 seconds of Shield Block every 45 second interval, so 37s / 8s per shield block... 4.625 Shield Block applications (without charge) per 45 sec period ~ 9.729729... sec Shield Block recharge rate.

If you added bolster the number you need goes down slightly as well obviously.

[toxic pewter]

Lol

Wat

[warm plinth]

Ah true you have shield charge. Didn't think of that.

So ((16/9.729)-1)x100 would be 64.44% haste

[lavish rivet]

But essentially, you just throw haste into the DR calc, add the 2% multipliers, and ITF and you can get a number. But that number is at a big loss to the rest of your stat profile.

[warm plinth]

After everything

[lavish rivet]

yeah

[jagged pier]

thats imply u always have full stacks of ITF which isnt the case

[warm plinth]

Yeah

But realistically if you got close, you'd probably not notice the brief downtime you did have since there's almost always a bit of traveling or rp you have to deal with

[lavish rivet]

Exactly

[warm plinth]

Math is fun

[lavish rivet]

Even with 25-27k you're barely going to notice gaps from pull to pull.

You'll feel it on long boss fights, but that's it really.

[warm plinth]

Yeah I have around 25k and only notice if I've been chain pulling for a good bit

[lavish rivet]

Nothing you can't play around.

[bleak breach]

What do you guys think is easiest key?
Has to be Eco Dome right?

[warm plinth]

Gambit or eco, yeah

Though tbh streets is pretty free now after the nerfs too

[bleak breach]

We had a 14 Eco but hadn’t timed a 12, so dropped it down. Should’ve just done the 14, it felt like a M0

In comparison to stuff like Ara Kara which feels really tight this season?

[blazing shuttle]

I will say.

Past the first room of Gambit?

It's a free fucking key.

[bleak breach]

I kinda feel Ara Kara and Dawn are the tough ones?
Priory simply because first boss eats you out and loves you to drip on the floor.

[warm plinth]

I feel like 2nd boss is the only part that can be sketchy. The rest is pretty chill

[torpid dome]

xd

[bleak breach]

Also easy to accidentally chain pull a pack in priory and brick the key

[blazing shuttle]

Dawn is VERY easy. IT is just that the last boss takes around 5 mins.

And it takes a lot of time, which I despise.

[bleak breach]

Agree, I think because of disrupting shout the first part is pretty free for warrior. Assuming you have a decent group comp anyway.

[bleak breach]

Yeah that’s fair, Dawn you either stuff on first or last boss generally

[blazing shuttle]

Wait. For Gambit?

Or Priory?

[warm plinth]

Gambit

[bleak breach]

Gambit

[lavish rivet]

Wish they hadnt reverted the CD change on disrupting from the end of DF. 75 sec CD was so nice.

[bleak breach]

The dragon

[blazing shuttle]

Ah, my bad, sorry.

[bleak breach]

We would be too op

[blazing shuttle]

Yeah. The dragon cna be...

Honestly, I am more afraid of thge PUGS than the boss.

[bleak breach]

Double to triple disrupting per pack would be busted

[blazing shuttle]

Legit.

[warm plinth]

Literally just can people stand on his ass or not

[lavish rivet]

Pug affix on the dragon be real man...

[warm plinth]

And surprisingly often the answer is they cannot

[lusty grotto]

people like to move away from fires for some reason

instead of baiting RIGHT NEXT TO THEM

[bleak breach]

The main part is just trying to get all 4 adds when you’re around mid room and don’t have as good of an angle

[lavish rivet]

Im legit just gonna wait to push later in the season so people learn the shit hopefully by the time turbo boost comes around.

[lusty grotto]

which is conveniently where i put the dragon

[warm plinth]

Yeah, they go into panic mode. You see it on first boss Ara Kara too when one wave of webs is covering the whome fuckin room

Whole*

[bleak breach]

Yep

Ara Kara is just tough now, feels like you need way more minions for %

[lusty grotto]

eh

[warm plinth]

Well I haven't done it super high but two chested an 11 pretty easily

[bleak breach]

@lusty grotto I got flood trinket on my 2nd or 3rd flood for the season with avoidance yesterday. Just had better trinkets already 😅

[warm plinth]

Btw I managed til this week to somehow dodge the void emissary affix and I'd like if it could respectfully go fuck itself.

How are the rest so chill and this one is like the anti-pug

[bleak breach]

Yeah, it seems much better now we’ve done it a couple of times. Think it just shocked us week 1/2 when we did the same stuff we normally do and needed like 15% at the end.

[lunar flare]

Didn't standing behind the boss used to be bad because you'd get caught on its hook? I'm assuming that's been removed

[warm plinth]

Yeah he doesn't tail swipe anymore

Much easier now

[lunar flare]

Ah nice

I haven't non-tanked that boss since Shadowlands so I've never noticed

The best part is when you tell people to stack and they all spread so the adds disperse just as the frontal locks in

I enjoy that a lot

(i don't)

[warm plinth]

Yep

[lunar flare]

Or the iconic "I'm being fixated, better run this add as far away from the group as I can"

[blazing shuttle]

Question.

I might get lynched for this, but.

[warm plinth]

I did like one or two keys all of s1 so didn't have previous experience to muddy my perspective fortunately haha

[blazing shuttle]

Is it me, or is Prio one of the easiest dungeon this season?

[warm plinth]

I don't think any of the dungeons are especially hard

[blazing shuttle]

Beside the first boss that can be like... a bit difficult.

Second boss is braindead.

Third boss is literally just a spank.

[warm plinth]

It's a pretty good season overall

[blazing shuttle]

HoA says hello.

[warm plinth]

Eh it's not hard though. Just timer problems

It's hard in a different sense

[blazing shuttle]

IMO, HoA is like.

The timer is waaaaaaaaaay too tight.

[lunar flare]

HoA has an egregious amount of dispels

[warm plinth]

Just pull bigger and zug harder

[blazing shuttle]

Yeah I'm pulling big

Like zugging hard

[lunar flare]

You can always zug harder, brother

[blazing shuttle]

I'll try to zug harder brother

[lunar flare]

Only when you wipe have you reached your zug limit

[blazing shuttle]

I also had a DPS walk into the aoe.

On the first boss.

Or die to the aoe of the first pack.

[harsh trellis]

The trick to HoA is pulling shit into the bosses

Seriously

[blazing shuttle]

Yeah.

[lunar flare]

Dude the amount of people who place their shit on first boss right behind me and then get mad when I don't throw the boss to the other side of the planet before his lasers

[blazing shuttle]

I'm pulling the gargoyles into the boss now.

[harsh trellis]

Nooooooooooooooooo

lol avoid gargoyles

those waste time

[blazing shuttle]

Dang.

I've been doing it wrong then..

Also:

[harsh trellis]

but like you know that 4 pack of casters? before 3rd boss?

[blazing shuttle]

That mini boss before the final boss.

Yeah?

[harsh trellis]

pull all those into the boss

[warm plinth]

Imagine you did though and then they just yeet your ass out of the circle

[harsh trellis]

they do nothing

[blazing shuttle]

Oh yeah I did like

The two packs in the hallway together

After the second boss

Like

Maximum mayhem

[sharp merlin]

Wait what

[blazing shuttle]

I ZUGGED ZUGGED

VERY HARD

[sharp merlin]

You pull the mini boss to the last boss?

[blazing shuttle]

N no.

[warm plinth]

No

[sharp merlin]

LOL

[blazing shuttle]

Between the second and third boss.

[warm plinth]

You can't do that even if you wanted to haha

[blazing shuttle]

I took all of it.

At once.

ZUG ZUG.

[sharp merlin]

Oh

[harsh trellis]

the door is shut

[sharp merlin]

The 4 casters

[harsh trellis]

otherwise

thatd be cool

[blazing shuttle]

Also;

Third boss

[sharp merlin]

Yeah I do that too

[blazing shuttle]

I legit maccroed "SPELL REFLECT UP" oin /y

[torpid dome]

end of last season, wasn't it guaranteed that you got a delver's bounty from your first bountiful delve of the week?

[blazing shuttle]

And they still interrupt

[lusty grotto]

we could have told not to do that

[blazing shuttle]

[warm plinth]

You used to be able to snap gargoyles through the door after 3rd boss though so you could use them for miniboss

[lusty grotto]

cause they will interrupt harder

[blazing shuttle]

YES.

EXACTLY.

[lusty grotto]

with a macro

[warm plinth]

(When venthyr could control them)

[blazing shuttle]

I feel like whenever I spell reflect

[harsh trellis]

Bring a priest also

[warm plinth]

Nope

[sharp merlin]

But the timer is way too tight

[blazing shuttle]

Thye become living GODS at interrupts

I'm like "please this can be like 2% of the boss HP for free if not more..."

[sharp merlin]

I’m trying to do it on a 13 and it’s wayyyyy too tight

[tawny citrus]

Also is there a reason why sims sim Nethergate better over Sacbrood?
Could be because sims sim offensive trinkets somehow better and doesn't count it as for tank?

[blazing shuttle]

I've been stuck on it.

[sharp merlin]

Every other dungeon is simple

But fuck me, I hate that dungeon

[lusty grotto]

did you read what i linked

it goes over that

[tranquil thunder]

is this real chat?

[lusty grotto]

also nethergate is just mid

[lunar flare]

grok is this real

grok explain this

grok make a decision for me

[lusty grotto]

yes am grok

[blazing shuttle]

My royal advisors, is it real?

[harsh trellis]

yes its real

[lusty grotto]

zug zug

[lusty grotto]

anyway how are you simming?

link sim

instead of making weird borders around pics

lol

would be more helpful

[harsh trellis]

lol

went into photshop

[lusty grotto]

i was like "hold up"

[harsh trellis]

no...

no

not that one

let me do 2 tone

[lusty grotto]

did discord now put glowies on pics

[harsh trellis]

a bevel and emboss also

[lusty grotto]

thats some dedication

gotta respect it

hello? is ape there

link sim not sim pic with very cool borders

[neon elk]

U are just envy he has cool borders and u dont

[lusty grotto]

💯

best i can do is this

still no cool borders

[tawny citrus]

Fixed

[harsh trellis]

oi im gonna have to open paint now.

[lusty grotto]

[harsh trellis]

best I could do

[lusty grotto]

Nav youre a

god

its almost like

a LLM pulled billions of images and made a composite according to a specific prompt

[harsh trellis]

nope.. all ms paint

[lusty grotto]

such artistry

[harsh trellis]

swear