but it is what it is
#protection
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
no dps warriors always feels bad
pallid quiver
I'm mostly waiting for the crashouts from fotm reroller types when prot war gets adjusted
DPS Wars having a time is also interesting
cerulean tusk
Pwarrior gets nerfed, meanwhile BrM does 8m overall in keys 
waxen frigate
Pwarrior gets nerfed, meanwhile BrM does 8m overall in keys <:keks:9362316108508...
Yeah but every influencer still hates brew and is shit at it so who cares
cerulean tusk
No way, I spotted 4 BrMs that do consistently DPS tier m+ overall DPS.
cerulean tusk
There is good. And there is does DPS tier M+ DPS overalls
One might say they do a bit too much
waxen frigate
There is good. And there is does DPS tier M+ DPS overalls
Idk Warcraft logs shows pwarr ahead of brew in a fair few keys
Or close to it
cerulean tusk
Still not seen Pwarrior close to that DPS, but then, I haven't seen many.
Doesn't help that I meme prot, and do S2 levels of DPS myself
bleed col is just a neat fun play style, not necessarily any good
... Now I am curious, to warcraft logs!
Monks blowing warrior out of the water 
6.2m log Vs 4.8m as the widest of them
oak ivy
narrow cosmos
❤️
glacial lynx
For keys should I use ire or scabrood alongside tome?
pallid quiver
Also note
+7-+16 is a huge ass range
and there is actually more than 50% more Prot War parses than Brew parses
south zealot
USA USA USA USA
solid sun
Is that archon
lusty grotto
For keys should I use ire or scabrood alongside tome?
ire and tome
cerulean tusk
Also note
+7-+16 is a huge ass range
and there is actually more than 50% more ...
Also note, 90% of runs go without logs. And ppl with a strat that causes silly DPS, even got more of a reason not to "share" their secrets
solid sun
Oh man I want some silly dps strats
cerulean tusk
Crit
lusty grotto
Would share some for warrior if I knew any
mailmental
cerulean tusk
They removed the haste zpne
lusty grotto
but Sense said it was nerfed so
cerulean tusk
cerulean tusk
Wonder if there is anything that breaks if you mind control it this time around
narrow cosmos
I read your name as Fartbreath at first....now im kinda dissapointed 🙁
It's alright, it's what I deserve.
cerulean tusk
Now I read it like that...
round pendant
lmao fartbreath
mortal cypress
lmao fartbreath
trim delta
After playing as MT for a while, I actually prefer Colossus. I never thought I'd say that. It felt better, imo
jagged gust
Turns out having like 20-30% uptime on SW feels pretty good
midnight burrow
any concensus on embellishments this season?
lusty grotto
same as every season
midnight burrow
gotcha
small steeple
same as every season
yolo and just do what your RL/log officer say?
spice anchor
can someone explain to me which is better and why between fueled by violence and brutal vitality for keys?
lusty grotto
yolo and just do what your RL/log officer say?
lusty grotto
can someone explain to me which is better and why between fueled by violence and...
thane = brv
colossus = fbv
colossus tier buffs bleeds so fueled gains value
thane has infinite rage, so brv gains value
thats it
for any content
spice anchor
gotcha thank you
naive panther
I haven't even tried colossus since ive had 4 set. Need to run one to check it out. Thanes just straight clapping though. The shield slams you get in a row can be nutty.
errant wagon
hey y'all, I remember there used to be a custom APL to sim Tome in raidbots.
Is that still required, if so where can I find it?
Having trouble digging it up in the Discord, don't see it in the pins
lusty grotto
hey y'all, I remember there used to be a custom APL to sim Tome in raidbots.
Is ...
its not needed any more
its built in
errant wagon
love to hear it. Thanks king
I guess follow up, does it matter if patchwork or dungeon cleave?
for the tome accuracy
errant wagon
Thanks 👍
glacial lynx
Asking for my co tank does starshatter (heroic) just hit that damn hard on the first galatic smash?
azure crag
MY FUCKING HEALER.
GOT A WARBOUND VERSION
OF THE TRINKET BEFORE I GOT MINE
I'M GONNA UNDO MY LIFE
lusty grotto
azure crag
I'm at 52 runs at this point, what did I do, game?!
This is Trolling
slim chasm
Hey guys, wanted to ask here but does wowanalyzer work well for Prot? Trying to pick the spec up for this tier
lusty grotto
no it doesnt
well, it does kind of
but we dont maintain it
so its recommendations might not align with ours
COUGHIGNOREPAINCOUGH
we have a #1347646810457636974 channel that we use, which is similar
slim chasm
Appreciate it! I have been doing keys, went from 605-689 today and my damage still feels very low, I have 2 set but I just feel im doing something very very wrong. No real logs to look at yet
slim chasm
COUGHIGNOREPAINCOUGH
I assume this means I'm just spamming ignore pain to get into my next Avatar sooner?
lusty grotto
spamming IP is bad
but analyzer makes emphasis in
uptime
which we dont care about
slim chasm
Ah ok, looks liuke I need to do a bit more reading on Prot war then
lusty grotto
fair
errant wagon
Asking for my co tank does starshatter (heroic) just hit that damn hard on the f...
It does indeed hit that hard.
Progged it Thursday and I did not give it the respect it deserved, died twice to it on pulls not really realizing
And each star killer hits the tank very hard
zenith aurora
if I have 20k haste with flask, should i play ITF?
lusty grotto
no
zenith aurora
ty
azure crag
FINALLY. 53 RUNS
lusty grotto
congrats!
zenith aurora
its 20k min unbuffed
I'm desperate for haste lol using a 675 crafted over a hero track purely for stats
considering crafting a 675 neck to replace my hero track just for more haste
lusty grotto
you shouldnt be
HR is fine
im not gonna use a flask to cover for that (or a last season neck if there's higher ilvl)
and im doing HR as well
errant wagon
did a 15 halls and this still wasnt in time
That's a juicy comp! How did you guys do the mini boss room?
lusty grotto
is there an addon that instantly kicks you if you cant trade an item
i just got invited to 2 different gambit groups and instantly kicked lol
restive oak
all these keys are meaningless :p
just resume to do keys later
i farmed a gambit trinket for my healer, and we did like a 12 with guildies later and 2 dropped that no one needed
warm plinth
i just got invited to 2 different gambit groups and instantly kicked lol
As a tank?
small steeple
i just got invited to 2 different gambit groups and instantly kicked lol
That’s cursed if there is
And super fucking toxic
I had a 3kio warlock apply to my 13 streets with the note “don’t accept if you can’t trade neck” like he’s some sort of hot shit
rigid hull
is there a way to get fear ? i gotta carry these cloth players sometimes @lusty grotto
lusty grotto
I had a 3kio warlock apply to my 13 streets with the note “don’t accept if you c...
thats fucked up lmao
no lie i just realized priory has like 5 fucking upgrades for fury
ring, neck is kinda a babby upgrade, boots, wrist
meanwhile me doing gambit for one neck
im so stupid lol
no
its a straight up 35% chance
it says so right in the tier
undone beacon
Man
Went over on a 13 eco and a 12 dawn in a guild group
And like I know it’s not my fault but as a tank I just assume it’s my fault
undone beacon
13 trickle deaths during a 12 dawn though makes for a poor showing
warm plinth
Oof yeah that's no bueno
pallid quiver
it's somehow the mage's fault
undone beacon
I think it’s telling that our only guildie who is >3k io rn hasn’t done anything about a 10 with the guild lmao
pallid quiver
Just be like me and be 1.1k io 🙂
warm plinth
Luerce is big gamer
plush tendon
all these keys are meaningless :p
I have week 2 title grrrrr
hexed delta
Guys help me settle something between my friends and me, did Prot warrior ever get to choose between Ravager and bladestorm this xpac?
plush tendon
now I just need to keep up with it
solid sun
Eh my route super sucked for a 12 HoA. Was a rough showing
plush tendon
undone beacon
Guys help me settle something between my friends and me, did Prot warrior ever g...
Prot warrs have never had access to bladestorm
pallid quiver
Guys help me settle something between my friends and me, did Prot warrior ever g...
There's a ton of people who wanted to
but no
restive oak
i mean yeah i've gotten the 2 week title a few times if they did it 😄
pallid quiver
Prot warrs have never had access to bladestorm
lies and slander
pash is not a pandaland enjoyer
pallid quiver
i will stab u
undone beacon
Stab me I’ll moan
lusty grotto
its not hastened
its a 35% chance
thats it
otherwise the spell data would include + haste
but
it is indirectly hastened
cause its based on TB
if you cast more TBs youll get more ionizing strikes
and if you cast more SS and TCs youll get more TBs
if that makes sense
azure crag
I did not know shield block increased the damage of shield slam
I learned something today
warm plinth
Heroic Leap also resets the cooldown on Taunt
lusty grotto
yeah obligatory
warm plinth
Something a lot of people still don't know XD
azure crag
I have learned two things today
pallid quiver
i've even used taunt reset to save lives before
lusty grotto
how did i ever do 49 priories
warm plinth
Me too!
warm plinth
Ngl the crazy thing is that guy did 52 ALREADY
pallid quiver
bro i log on and feel exhausted
azure crag
I eventually went numb.
The priories just kinda melted together at some point
warm plinth
I'm telling you it's like wow's best kept secret
lusty grotto
but 51 in such a short amount of time
warm plinth
Yeah at least yours were spread out a bit haha
lusty grotto
my brain would probably unsubscribe
warm plinth
Dang kinda crazy echo went to bed that close to a kill even if liquid did kill it already. Idk if I could do it
azure crag
I did also throw in the odd floodgate in hopes of getting a different, but still good trinket
that didn't happen either
warm plinth
My question is did you go the same way every priory run
violet ginkgo
Dang kinda crazy echo went to bed that close to a kill even if liquid did kill i...
Their Brains fried need to refresh and recharge 🧠
azure crag
My question is did you go the same way every priory run
I think I varied it up at the beginning. But eventually I just settled on going right every time.
It was simple and easy and let me gather up all the mobs with the mini boss right away
it got to the point where I could tell where the mobs were just based on how long it'd been since the key started
slender bison
Any reliable tool to check how much magic damage Spell breaker absorbed?
warm plinth
Eh idk, I think the number of people actually still talking about the time difference is pretty small. I almost never hear it mentioned anymore.
Especially in today's race where everyone is streaming prog
warm plinth
How many kicks do you need on Tanner to not have any fireballs go off?
lusty grotto
eh
it doesnt matter, the damage is healable
even in 12s
idk about anything higher
warm plinth
And that's the only damage he does right? Assuming you don't stand in his fire circles like an idiot?
lusty grotto
the only thing that is dangerous is fireball + brown puddle
cause that's kind of an aoe hit
when he lands
and im not talking about getting hit by it
warm plinth
I was thinking more of fireball + savage mauling tbh
echo egret
Can anyone enlighten me :
Why is there such a difference in damage taken for these 3 casts ?
The 3rd one killed me but it didn't seem that much above the 1st cast.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LR3hqwFDPXTG9xQB?fight=1&type=damage-taken&pins=2%24Off%24%23244F4B%24expression%24ability.name%3D"Terrifying+Slam"&source=2&view=events&target=61
lusty grotto
it could be anything
but why arent you SRing them
could be Punish stacks, TB DR, etc
and also you should be walling those
the first 2 have the TB DR
aka Keep Your Feet on the Ground
and the 2nd one has demo
all 3 hit for the same amount unmitigated so
the difference is DR
echo egret
and also you should be walling those
You’re right, it wasn’t necessary in early keys so I didn’t take the habit.
gloomy solar
Is 4pc fucking insane?
I saw a 703 prot warrior doing 3.5Mil on Salhadaar
jagged pier
i mean not all teirset his has a long exectue phase
blazing condor
guys did we win the war within
jagged pier
nope
blazing condor
shit
onyx vessel
i mean s2-s3 prot war looking good in raid cuz dmg 
zenith aurora
Sadge
jagged pier
Hopefully not too heavy handed but bliz likes to be
prime maple
The race is over, are we about to be taken out back and put down?
mellow bridge
Mayhaps
night estuary
native ember
IM FINALLY FUCKING FREE
lime urchin
you sweet summer child
life only starts now that you can see the light
merry umbra
12 hoa, why is brand so broken lul, didnt expect it to do more than shield slam
lunar flare
IM FINALLY FUCKING FREE
Enjoy, verse 37 is a good one
rancid knot
yo! https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6WHj57yPLATaafJjzDKepz
do i go buy sims for dmg?
idk am i not using alot of mastery with this sim?
watched a prot guid and they said that mastery is dead statt
(mythic +)
jagged pier
Mastery isnt a dead stat we have no dead stats
The less of a stat u have the more impactful it is for dps
To get some of it
U shouldnt have pure mastery gems anyway because u want the speed from the meta gem
And that will barely change your dps at all
rancid knot
U shouldnt have pure mastery gems anyway because u want the speed from the meta ...
ah true, speed helps alot
kk ty!
vast epoch
IM FINALLY FUCKING FREE
Grats brother
hollow sphinx
do we go with crafted longsword or mace?
sweet summit
as long as it's a one hander with strength the only difference is aesthetic so doesn't matter
craft the one with cheaper mats 👍
ebon scaffold
Anyone using anything other than Alchemical for raiding progress?
vocal roost
Why is everyones thunder blast so high on meters and revenge so low?
My thunder blast is way lower and revenge way higher
neon elk
Because everyone plays MT and u play colosus ? Or u are doing your rotation wrongly
blazing ridge
had 160 revenege caste in the just done +11 dawn
4m overall, revenge did like 3% dmg
storm isle
at what ilvl break point would you guys swap out old season set? with normal gear
rough egret
Hopefully we will not be nerfed on reset.. i wanna enjoy the dmg too 😄
lime mantle
Question: I have the demon hunter's shoes (LFR level), do I really care about them or if I get hero/myth boots I just slap em on?
crimson furnace
lads, what do we think about the AOE trinkets ranked on BLoodmallet for us prot warrios???
tell me ur thoughts, clean and sincere
talking about the idol from HOA
warm plinth
Question: I have the demon hunter's shoes (LFR level), do I really care about th...
You don't care about them
worldly crown
Can I get some guidance on the best usage for my 2x Spark usage?
- I currently have a hero 1h and shield
- Prot is mainspec, but also play DPS occasionally
- Was thinking of crafting a myth 2h weapon with an embelishment
- Max flexibility for upgrading any myth gear I get in the future and not "waste" crests?
- Allows me to upgrade my hero track to max for "free"
- Can flex as DPS to raids and M+
- Have been challenged to instead craft a 1x MH and 1x Shield as that is my "main spec"
- Want to be available to flex for high M+ and CE Raid
warm plinth
Can I get some guidance on the best usage for my 2x Spark usage?
- I currently h...
Idk it's your call. You need to decide how important dps spec is to you for raid and make the call from there. In a prot war vacuum, shield and weapon should be your crafts.
worldly crown
Idk it's your call. You need to decide how important dps spec is to you for rai...
Thanks. If I craft MH and Shield, if I get a hero 2h weapon I can "freely" upgrade that right?
warm plinth
Correct, as long as you craft both
worldly crown
I will go ahead and craft for prot then. Any particular embelishments / craft types you would recommend?
warm plinth
For shield you can do lining like you would normal embellishments. For weapon either nothing or ascendance
lime mantle
You don't care about them
For DPS they do care right?
Sorry for the dumb question, I don't want to yolo dust them and then be told they are worth 60 ilvl as dps
harsh trellis
Can I get some guidance on the best usage for my 2x Spark usage?
- I currently h...
This is what I crafted
worldly crown
This is what I crafted
Thanks.
Stupid question; no difference between 1h mace and 1h sword right? Both can be used for fury?
harsh trellis
Thanks.
Stupid question; no difference between 1h mace and 1h sword right? Both...
right
worldly crown
The mace looks badass, but dont want to find out some vanilla-wow type shit still exists and it sims lower lmao
harsh trellis
lol I remember that
worldly crown
Thanks :-))
warm plinth
For DPS they do care right?
Sorry for the dumb question, I don't want to yolo du...
Yes, they matter for DPS
Though I'm sure ilevel would still beat the LFR ones pretty easily since it's only like 20% increased proc rate
neon elk
For dps its also easily simable
warm plinth
talking about the idol from HOA
Bloodmallet sims exist in the vacuum of whatever gear template they're using to sim. That being said, idol is strong. Just remember you can't block during the channel.
700 achieved, finally
crimson furnace
Bloodmallet sims exist in the vacuum of whatever gear template they're using to ...
nice, lets get that damuge
compact silo
spear vs roar on Thane in m+?
warm plinth
Either is fine. Most prefer roar because it's off CD more and more convenient
compact silo
doesnt spear technically have higher dmg potential since it multiplies ANY crit dmg?
and useful for locking down mobs that like to move
frosty mango
doesnt spear technically have higher dmg potential since it multiplies ANY crit ...
No because it’s not up as often
TLDR - play spear if you want burst dps for large pulls and/or bosses
Play roar if you want consistent dps or gather support for packs
You’re not gonna notice a big difference one way or the other
compact silo
No because it’s not up as often
well it has bigger cd but it has bigger dmg too
frosty mango
I play both, swap depending on the dungeon
warm plinth
For me, Spear is about ~1% better in ST and about 1% better in 5T. Not nearly significant enough for me to give up the convenience of spear
er
convenience of roar
I would potentially consider running spear in like...gambit or halls maybe but even then it's not available every pull
warm plinth
(to be clear, for the running mobs)
And I'm not really going to hold it just to prevent running either
frosty mango
I play roar in priory, halls, and dawnbreaker
I play spear in the others
I will sometimes play roar in eco dome
But really it’s just for gather support
I don’t really notice a damage diff between the two outside of boss dps
But sending spear on a boss means it’s usually not up for the next pack which evens out the damage profile
warm plinth
crit/mast better than vers/mast for shield (looted not crafted)
Depends on your stats. c/v are about equal to each other generally unless you have a fuckload of one and not much of the other
zenith aurora
Depends on your stats. c/v are about equal to each other generally unless you h...
How much is a fuckload of vers?
I have 9.6k with the crit/mast shield equipped
14k crit
warm plinth
It's more about the disparity between the two, which is why we always suggest sims when it comes to deciding which stats to favor on equal ilevel items
I can't imagine there's a massive difference between them if you have 14k and 9.6k
zenith aurora
I've got a sim loading so ill see what it says ty
frosty mango
I’m pretty sure you could run 30k vers and slap on heavy repercussions and time like every key
Not optimal but just to illustrate the point that beyond a specific haste level basically all secondaries are good secondaries and which one is the best is really down to your specific gear at that specific time (like @warm plinth said)
frosty mango
Nope that’s what like 23000-24000?
solid sun
lol
“Yeah so stats basically don’t matter too much”
Hey how are my stats looking
Good coffee sipping giggle this morning
olive kettle
What trinket combo would you do right now, if you had this:
Hero Sacbrood
662 Pacemaker
Hero So'leah
Sac and So'leah, right?
solid sun
I would sim
desert hinge
is there such a thing as too much haste
to the point where it doesn't benefit skill recharges and uptime i guess is what i'm asking
violet ginkgo
too much haste?
There is nothing as "too much haste" also just sim it.
desert hinge
not asking about damage i know to sim lol
frosty mango
is there such a thing as too much haste
This is true for most stats, they don’t scale in a linear fashion
But the reason everyone says to sim is because stats are only relevant to your specific gear set
Beyond like wearing int gear it’s impossible for anyone to give you an answer
desert hinge
right i was just asking more in the sense of like what's the optimal haste for recharges without needing to be carried by HR, i know you can freely was off it around like 20k haste but idk if i wasn't considering other skill recharges as well
jagged pier
u cant reach it
jagged pier
dungeon slice doesnt work for any tank
frosty mango
is it ok to sim with dungeon slice
Not supported well just use 5 target 90 seconds patchwerk
rapid halo
Not supported well just use 5 target 90 seconds patchwerk
ty
frosty mango
right i was just asking more in the sense of like what's the optimal haste for r...
23k ish you’ll be able to run with in the fray but given your other gear that doesn’t mean past that haste is suboptimal
We really, honestly, can’t tell you one way or the other
jagged pier
even with 25k haste u have downtime on shield, because our tier doesnt give us SB anymore
desert hinge
ya i'm not looking for a direct answer, all good, the 23k bit is good to know
desert hinge
i am but just trying to get a sense for what is out there in the ether my man
frosty mango
even with 25k haste u have downtime on shield, because our tier doesnt give us S...
I was able to get back up to s2 numbers around 30k
But given the ip spam meta I trimmed back down based on sims
And at 30k I was losing rage during lust bc I can’t press my fingers that fast
jagged pier
ytour scarificing far too much dps with 30k once u hit about 25k just look somewhere else for stats
desert hinge
lol, god forbid you accidentally end up on OCE servers unwittingly xD
frosty mango
ytour scarificing far too much dps with 30k once u hit about 25k just look somew...
Yea im running 24500 right now
desert hinge
i'm sitting right around 23k and was testing out crit/haste neck vs haste/mast basically
that swap was putting me like at 20k vs 23k
hence the source of my question
frosty mango
IMO (and this is really just my opinion) past 27k ish it gets really hard to keep pace during lust and procs
desert hinge
at least with thane you sometimes don't really need to hit revenge lmao, that's something right
frosty mango
I was over 100 cpm during lust on soulbinder
jagged pier
imagine thinking 100 during lust is high
desert hinge
ready to play sc2 at a high level
frosty mango
we used to be 110 base
I’m not including ignore pain
Pretty sure we could reach some dumb numbers if we include ip
echo egret
Any good website with written guides of M+ dungeons, including important trash abilities ?
1st one I check, icy-veins, already has a mistake.
frosty mango
hence the source of my question
Back to this, living and dying is really about pressing your defensives - stats are largely damage centric hence why you sim
frosty mango
Any good website with written guides of M+ dungeons, including important trash a...
It’s not tank centric but megasett has a decent breakdown in wotc
somber sable
Gentleman, is "glad spec" viable in s3 pvp? Would like to run a bg prot build
echo egret
https://www.wayofthecrane.io/
Thanks !
dense cedar
by going in to mythic next week, what should i consider to craft? can make 2 720 item
frosty mango
A shield and a weapon
chrome falcon
^
jagged pier
apart from
frosty mango
Wait until Tuesday to craft to make sure you don’t get one in your vault
jagged pier
they drop from the first 2 bosses
chrome falcon
loom definitely third boss and if they're only starting mythic now, might be a few weeks before that dies
so 100% craft shield
frosty mango
Don’t think we can assume that
chrome falcon
loom will be in vault after killing soulbinder but still
dense cedar
thanks 🙂
frosty mango
I’d still check vault then craft weap and shield but if you think you’ll kill some bosses guess you could hold like jakey said
jagged pier
i always god long term
craft emblishments first because u aint replacing them ever
and as wep and shields are number u can get in vault and 2 drop off early bosses
theres not much point in crafting them
violet ginkgo
havent killed loom and have a myth shield already
chrome falcon
the point is having a 720 shield when you go into mythic to make it easier
jagged pier
matta
nothing
in raid can kill u
if your pushing 18s
i would agree with u
literally nothing
in raid is blockable
well barely
so having the shield changes bug all
frosty mango
in raid can kill u
That’s not true, i heroic lept through the floor on plexus and died
frosty mango
I don’t even tank raid in d stance the majority of the time
chrome falcon
in raid can kill u
sure i agree so why craft anything
chrome falcon
just preference on your own methodology if you want to make guy stronger now but take longer to get full bis
or have slightly weaker guy now but full bis a bit sooner
but yes you could probably tank first 4 in 700 avg ilvl this is a very easy tier for tanking (at least first half of raid)
jagged pier
thats fine ither way, im disagreeing with your point that having a 720 sheild will make a differnece
it wont make a difference at all
chrome falcon
in our world where us + our raid teams are (mostly) not bad i agree but you never know who OP is playing with or if he sucks (no offence)
jagged pier
having a shield wont effect any of that at all tho
it literally wont in raid
all the horrible raid damage is magic
quartz lagoon
I made shield because shield good zugzug
chrome falcon
having a shield wont effect any of that at all tho
then who cares whether your shield is 720 or 726
frosty mango
all the horrible raid damage is magic
Blizz: removes spell block
Also blizz: fills raid with spell damage
Blizzards anti-warrior agenda cannot be understated
jagged pier
we will get nerfed most likely
quartz lagoon
cant have warriors competing with poster child demon hunters in m+ content
chrome falcon
yeah i don't think anything about this class is balanced rn
frosty mango
we will get nerfed most likely
Agree
chrome falcon
though i feel like our damage is kinda meh in giga pulls
like murlocs in gambit my damage is just ok
then we go metal guys before 1st boss in gambit and i'm 2nd/3rd lol
frosty mango
though i feel like our damage is kinda meh in giga pulls
Uh I’m doing like 20m+ burst there I think we’re doin ok lol
frosty mango
IMO our m+ damage is fine
chrome falcon
oh our m+ damage is insane
frosty mango
Even the best warrior is not even remotely close to a dps
chrome falcon
because our st/mid target cleave is just what the fuck
frosty mango
Our damage is fine
solid sun
Didn’t cat come in here and say brewmasters were beating us
frosty mango
Other tanks damage needs raised
chrome falcon
yeah
but that won't happen because rn we look like an outlier
easier to nerf 1 guy than buff 5
frosty mango
Nerfing the tank doing 60% of a dps would be dumb
We’re not remotely close to dps numbers
frosty mango
I can see ionizing strike being a warranted nerf
quartz lagoon
since when has common sense hindered blizzard from nerfing a specific spec
chrome falcon
always 7-9% overall
frosty mango
But what will undoubtedly happen is they nerf the tier bonus proc rate, and thunderblast and/or execute
When the right solution would be to buff the other tanks
chrome falcon
i hope they don't nerf the proc rate
frosty mango
As is customary with every tier warriors are present in rwf time and then get nerfed to the ground
chrome falcon
it's not uncommon to have entire pulls where i literally don't have a tier set
actually
nerf ionizing strike but make it so instead of "resetting" the cd
it just never incurs a cd to begin with
frosty mango
Tank balance is insanely good right now for m+ so for sure blizz will fuck it up
chrome falcon
so i stop missing casts because it takes 0.5 seconds to realise it reset
hearty cipher
I finally dropped tome 
solid sun
Someone throw that man a bone
Probably doesn’t want a bone
neon elk
Throw him a carrot then
chrome falcon
highest cast per minute class?
always has been
halcyon crystal
hi i saw on raider io people using fueld by vioolence
when is the point to swap over froom brutal vitality
warm plinth
there isn't one
halcyon crystal
is fuled by violence straight up better ?
warm plinth
no
torpid dome
sigh
weary saddle
why do u like psf so much
toxic pewter
Prob trying to get that annoying trinket
torpid dome
Yep lmao
frozen zenith
is there a way to know how much stats il lget from a crafted item? i have only like 16k haste but my boots are crit/mast so i was thinking of makin em
toxic pewter
Can maybe check on raidbots
frozen zenith
oo thanks
when did you guys switch out your DISC also
the haste proc seemed too good for now lmao
im atlike ilvl 686
toxic pewter
I’m still using it but I mean I guess sim it to see if a newer belt is better
frozen zenith
oh i dont know hwo to sim yet :/
toxic pewter
Like prob would be better a higher upgraded hero or myth belt
frozen zenith
that makes sense
toxic pewter
Like personally would just use ilvl perhaps
Like just gonna put better ilvl belt on I’m too lazy to care but if you do care can use raidbots to sim
swift veldt
Thank you for a lot of answers for questions i asked here. Today was big day and i did my literal first +12 in my entire tank carrier 
sharp merlin
Thank you for a lot of answers for questions i asked here. Today was big day and...
congrats! Tough key on the tank too!
swift veldt
Btw question cause this DB was foken hell for me. I have like 20% crit, my whole jewelery sucks (no neck both rings without crit) got unluckiest versa mastery on all jeweleries. I dunno how much crit i will get from those 3 slots but you think it will be much better and i will mitigate much more with parries?
swift veldt
congrats! Tough key on the tank too!
Thank you, i wanted to abandon it twice cause some random mage in my group ignored 3 bl asks between 2nd miniboss and lusted on anubikkaj so we didnt have bl at rashnan p2 and we died like 10 times. Didnt expected to not deplete it but it was 10s and it would be over lmfao
mellow bridge
Btw question cause this DB was foken hell for me. I have like 20% crit, my whole...
No, stats only play a small part of your dmg intake
The only really relevant stat is haste because you have to play diff stats depending on your amount
swift veldt
No, stats only play a small part of your dmg intake
Okkay so im rolling wrong. Good to know. Probably my shield block uptime sucks
mellow bridge
You having some crit or some vers will make a very small difference compared to everything else going on
mellow bridge
Okkay so im rolling wrong. Good to know. Probably my shield block uptime sucks
Start logging and get some feedback
swift veldt
yeeah, the problems with logging for me is that i spammed 10s this week and i literally didnt feel any damage on me. Started season this reset cause i was working 6days a week before keys were launched so i guess its time to log since i will try to farm 12s from now on.
Btw is there a point sending midfinished dungeons logs in case i will decide with party to abandon? Not a single player wants to finish depleted key over 12 and it will happen, for sure sadly
azure crag
I can't speak for any tanks other than prot warrior and blood dk, but just comparing the two
I don't know how blood dk is allowed to exist in the state that it's in
The comparison between the two is night and day, and I don't regret leaving it this patch to play prot
round pendant
Btw is there a point sending midfinished dungeons logs in case i will decide wit...
Yeah if you're looking for advice on your own play, anything is good
as long as it's relatively challenging content for you
azure crag
Prot warrior has felt not only insanely fun, but insanely strong compared to blood.
I don't have nearly as much silly cheese as I did on blood, but who needs cheese when you're invincible and hit like a truck?
slim chasm
Hey guys, if any of yall got a minute I just posted a few keys im doing while gearing up a prot war, any chance someone would be willing to take a look at it? I'm strugglign with doing what I think is proper damage and can't really determine how much of it is gear/skill issue.
olive kettle
Is the delve belt bugged on sims or can it be true that a 4/6 hero piece sims 100k higher? 😄
Nevermind, had the wrong thing on the belt
blazing ridge
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6Xfbaq4nZgdxpzm3 <@71384769899794432>
Press more button.
55cpm is very low
agile cairn
Boys how do i sim prot warrior? patchwerk 5 bosses 2m?
slim chasm
Press more button.
Hm ok, what should i be aiming for?
slim chasm
oh shit lol
prisma nexus
*sigh*
Running since S3 Release... no drop. then i got in Vault myth track. its an pain.
solid sun
lol idk how some of you spam one dungeon repeatedly
I gotta get some variety in my life at least a little bit
prisma nexus
It’s the craving to own the item.
prisma nexus
😄
pain all the time
and u think.. now.. this is the run. all players can trade, loot spec as tank. letz go. and nothin.
slim chasm
Press more button.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qCPhDZ2A3mM7vWrV?fight=last Turns out hitting buttons more does infact give me more damage
still not good... so probably not playing correctly but more buttons === more damage
arctic finch
hey guys
in the mailroom in tazavesh in HM , does avatar remove the roots from picking up the bomb>?
shut summit
yes
mortal pebble
Guys i have the tome hero and peacemaker champion and now I get the All-Devouring Nucleus hero, its better than peacemaker?
lime spruce
lol idk how some of you spam one dungeon repeatedly
“I fear not the man who has run 10,000 dungeons once, but the man who has run 1 dungeon 10,000 times” -Bruce Lee
solid sun
Tee hee
tribal wharf
“I fear not the man who has run 10,000 dungeons once, but the man who has run 1 ...
this was me for lots of past seasons just not always at a 20
and they do fear me
every time i come in... oh no.... its yogi time....
peak iron
I'm getting this error when trying to sim can anyone tell me wtf it means lol
"Error: Actor 'Btsmealfiend': Action 'ignore_pain': Cannot parse expression from 'target.health.pct>=20&"
warm plinth
Do you have any custom sim shit? Like the old stuff for tome for example?
peak iron
oh shi yeah probably, is there new tome APL or is it just no longer needed
solid sun
No longer needed
peak iron
pog ty
tranquil thunder
hello people
i got another question , in what situations we press Revenge playing MT?, only on resets for free damage ?
azure ivy
Do we try to take wrecking throw for eco dome
warm plinth
i got another question , in what situations we press Revenge playing MT?, only o...
No, revenge procs aren't considered in really any circumstance. You Revenge when you don't have shield slam or thunder clap to press
And in Execute range, you only press it to refresh Deep Wounds in AoE
solid sun
Do we try to take wrecking throw for eco dome
You certainly can, but I think it loses some value the more geared your dps become.
azure ivy
The groups I’ve been in have been doing around 5 to 5.5 mil overall
But I’m just getting through all the 11s
solid sun
I can only parrot what people whom I value the opinions of here have said.
I don't actually take it in my runs, but I'm also only in the 10-12 range
tight pasture
question when should i stop getting haste and go for other stats?
azure ivy
I’m running a 13 eco shortly so was just wondering, thank you @solid sun
tranquil thunder
Ty for explain , also another question, ive seen people talking when you have 21k haste+ u get Into the Fray instead of heavy repercussions is this true?
solid sun
question when should i stop getting haste and go for other stats?
You'll want to be in the 20-21k range to start running ITF, but that doesn't mean you have to stop there. I believe Doot is around 25k? It's kind of up to you at that point imo
azure ivy
Man I’m at 26k haste unbuffed lol
But my mastery and crit are low
solid sun
And also up to the drops you get
tight pasture
ok because im at 25k unbuffed for haste
solid sun
Do you like being at 25k unbuffed
tight pasture
my crit is at 18k
i mean im just looking at gear and im trying to get to 8 sec cd for shield block but i dont know if that is even possible
solid sun
Pretty sure even at 25k you'll have gaps
tight pasture
yeah its at 11 sec cd right now
solid sun
Not sure how much haste you'd need to get rid of gaps
But you don't have to run that much haste if you don't wanna. You can also pull a Pash and have enough haste to run ITF but still take HR
If I get spooked with the gaps I might do the same
tight pasture
well im looking at in the fray buff and with the 8% buff from it it doesnt even reduce the cd for shield block at all
neon elk
Cuz its not rating but straight %
Itf is dmg only
Or well defense also but not sb uptime
tight pasture
ah i see
high latch
If you're stuggling with 100% shield block uptime in combat while taking damage then you should just go HR over ItF
tight pasture
hmmm i see
solid sun
idk if that's true
high latch
Sure, you can compensate with walling or something, but that's much easier
solid sun
I think in the context of dungeons, you probably aren't going to get full 100% shield block uptime while in combat
tight pasture
it extends the duration to 9 secs which makes it easier to keep it up all the time
solid sun
And I wouldn't sit here and just say yeah you def need HR because of that. It's def an option, like I mentioned before, but I wouldn't just say absolute 100% that means you gotta go HR
high latch
True. I just think that Shield Block is such a huge part of your defensives that it's pretty much higher pri than anything else.
tight pasture
i think i would only take HR for dungeons because when i raid i dont feel like i need it as much
high latch
That makes sense. In raid you'll have more downtime where you aren't actively taking melee hits.
lusty grotto
i only noticed very little gaps at 22k
but im still HRing
until 25kish
once i get neck, ill full swap back to it
azure crag
I was just in a +8 key where the leader abandoned their own key and we finished without them.
Like, one person had died. And we hadn't wiped yet.
Just finished the first boss, were moving onto the next
leader starts a vote abandon, we all say no
Dude says "I don't wanna do this key, pls vote"
And we just...keep going without them. They eventually DC
and I'm guessing the game eventually force kicks them out of the party and they catch a leaver penalty
Bro why would you abandon your own key when everyone is down to continue?
That's some next level self-sabotage
lusty grotto
heh
azure crag
But....But they put the group together
That's like throwing a party, and then dripping after the first song and leaving all the guests to keep going inside your house
high latch
Maybe they just had a really bad day and changed their mind
lusty grotto
i wish i didnt have to say it doesnt surprise me
first weeks shenanigans always happen
drifting grail
Had a feral tried to abandon own key after like 3 deaths, we obviously voted no and 2 chested it still 🤣 insane
People ready to quit so easily
rough egret
Iirc that was some strat in RWF gearing
rough egret
You are right
small steeple
People ready to quit so easily
I had ONE person die first pull of a halls 12, and 3 people insta voted to quit, then a 4th did too, pissed me the fuck off so much
solid sun
There are some characters out here for sure
high latch
Isn't there a timer so you can't vote abandon before 5min or so?
small steeple
if there is, that is news to me
azure crag
I believe its 3 minutes
prisma nexus
now the priory farm starts
GL
lusty grotto
well, continues
marble cipher
Why not farm the crit haste neck from streets in stead 🤔
frosty mango
I have the halls neck
heavy sparrow
I got 3 necks on alternating payrolls
frosty mango
But I need the gambit neck on both my monk and my war so I shift it up on both alas
Still no neck
high latch
Why not farm the crit haste neck from streets in stead 🤔
I'm sure someone can correct me if I remember incorrectly, but I believe the Streets neck is crit/haste with crit being a significant majority. The Gambit neck is haste/vers with haste majority. So the Gambit neck is better because it gives more haste, and vers is still pretty good for us.
lusty grotto
both are good necks
high latch
For sure. I'd happily use the Streets neck too.
lusty grotto
i just wanted gambit neck cause i want to get back up to 25k rating
if i had more haste, i would probably go for streets neck
no doubt about it
azure crag
I got the streets neck, but its currently simming worse for me, so it remains in my bag for now
high latch
That's the actual answer. Sim it.
lusty grotto
im hurting on haste cause my 4pc is fury offpiece
so chest is tier
will change over time
plus... there are other pieces i need to up that will shift to more haste anyway
blazing ridge
but im still HRing
I am having no problems with SB uptime with ITF and 23k haste
lusty grotto
thats why: say it with me "there's no such thing as static BIS"
blazing ridge
But I also am greedy with SB ar the end of pulls
high latch
I mean.. if you don't care about uptime, having low uptime = no problem
lusty grotto
you should care about uptime
high latch
Yeah I was joking
high latch
I'm a believer in 100% SB uptime
blazing ridge
2 mobs alive not scary I will just execute Tbh
lusty grotto
he is HR
jagged pier
high latch
That's me currently. Still need a few thousand haste to go ITF.
jagged pier
just play ITF and manage
lusty grotto
SB buffs your SS
jagged pier
its more fun
high latch
You think I play WoW for fun? This isn't 2015.
frosty mango
its more fun
Just had a tank in my key with 45% sb uptime
I’m sure he was having fun
lusty grotto
so if it wasnt a red card to keep it up to stay alive, there's your red card youre losing damage
frosty mango
I wasn’t
lusty grotto
LOL
blazing ridge
Like I know
I know it doesn't mean much but I usually parse ~95 don't worry I know SB = more dmg
daring dust
whats the most used actual push mt build right now?
jagged pier
check wowhead and icy veins for the push key build
languid nova
howdy!, guys im a little bit clueless about this, what think is the better?
jagged pier
some of the ones ive seen outside of that are bad
daring dust
some of the ones ive seen outside of that are bad
but wouldnt gathering clouds be better then thorim's might in a push build since it doesnt go hard into execute talents?
languid nova
charged bolts or spark or spark burst :x?
jagged pier
but wouldnt gathering clouds be better then thorim's might in a push build since...
no because u drop the rage gen from lightenin stirkes
high latch
charged bolts or spark or spark burst :x?
Most people run Spark Burst, but it kinda depends on your stats in total
daring dust
no because u drop the rage gen from lightenin stirkes
hm okay, and replacing ravager for bloodborne also bad idea?
jagged pier
hm okay, and replacing ravager for bloodborne also bad idea?
very with thane as u dont do bleed damage
the only reason u take it with colossus is because of the tier set
daring dust
okay thanks, just seen so many variants on top keys, then will continue using wowhead push build haha
cerulean kite
What would be a good time to start trying raids? My average gear rating is in the mid 400 gear range
high latch
I think 660 or so is recommended for normal mode of the newest raid? But you can run older raids and LFR if you want.
oblique garnet
You think I play WoW for fun? This isn't 2015.
Why do you play games then?
If not for fun
lusty grotto
charged bolts or spark or spark burst :x?
chraged bolts is banned, never use it
late niche
Hey all, whens the recommended ilvl to swap to a new belt?
lusty grotto
spark burst, you want haste
lusty grotto
Hey all, whens the recommended ilvl to swap to a new belt?
whenever sims tell you to
high latch
Why do you play games then?
It was just a dumb joke. Of course it's for fun.
oblique garnet
Be honest
late niche
shes never said that to him
high latch
The trick is to take extended breaks if it stops being fun. And I do that quite often.
rough nest
now the priory farm starts
GL, got lucky a few minutes ago, run 4
next pasture
so are we ever gonna replace bombsuit as the perfect defensive trinket? lol
rough egret
Yes with any offensive option
azure crag
I been having so much more fun now that I swapped to warrior from blood dk.
Which makes me very sad, I love blood dk.
But its good to try something new every now and again.
Even ignoring the absolute state blood is in atm
rough egret
Last time I played BDK was in SL last season 🙂
azure crag
The core of what I love is still there, but they keep snipping away at the extra fun bits, mostly for the sake of frost and unholy
Abom limb had to die because blizzard didn't like balancing raids around it, but now blood just has one less tool in M+ to gather up mobs and deal decent ticking damage at the start of a pull. Now abom limb is just a weird wound generator thing for unholy.
They lost 3% haste while standing in DnD (which they could do 100% of the time) so that frost could have 2% haste at 100% uptime since they couldn't always be in DnD.
Blood lost reaper's marks being able to reset from exterminate because it was too swingy for frost DPS, and they replaced it with Essentially nothing for blood
and
I was tired of catching strays for the dps specs. So, here I am.
Hoping blood will be better in midnight and enjoying prot warrior in the meantime
solid sun
I just wish I could find a dps spec I enjoy
chrome falcon
love this details breakdown on an araz pull where the boss didn't even hit 35% lol
i genuinely think they should buff every tank and leave pwarr as it is
but execute damage..... might be kinda high....
chrome falcon
I just wish I could find a dps spec I enjoy
fury is dumb and fun you just smash keyboard
azure crag
I do think tanks, overall, should be dealing more damage.
Especially with how often I still have ret paladins rip aggro off me at the start of a pull.
solid sun
Spell reflect on the third boss of halls is super enjoyable
It does so much damage over the course of the fight
chrome falcon
I do think tanks, overall, should be dealing more damage.
**Especially with how ...
yeah like i think pwarr is the only tank doing appropriate damage on average
my ppala friend is playing warrior as an alt and he said earlier "it's crazy i just thunderclap things and i hold aggro"
like... isn't that the point lol
chrome falcon
yep
jagged pier
But theyll heavy hand it anyways
chrome falcon
even though buffing tank makes the game better for literally everyone
jagged pier
It doesnt they buff tanks dps complain
azure crag
And its dumb, cause tank damage across the board except for prot and maybe brew is too low
wide token
they should buff dmg for every tank except vdh
and give pwarr 45sec disrupting shout
azure crag
DPS will complain tanks deal too much damage, then complain that their tanks can't hold aggro
We're already up to....
What was it, 5x threat gen? 6x threat gen?
it was buffed again last june, don't know what its up to now
crystal sierra
it was upwards of 1400% at the end of legion wasn't it
azure crag
okay here it is
9.5
god damn
We're almost at ffxiv's 10x threat modifier for tanks.
lusty grotto
they should buff dmg for every tank except vdh
and give pwarr 45sec disrupting s...
vdh is currently the lowest dps
and you want to nerf them further?
i mean aside from elune bear but, only noobies play that
undone beacon
Moon bear go brrrrr
I wanna do -5 ST damage but crank moonfires in AoE sometimes okay
lime mantle
and you want to nerf them further?
Punishment for being tier so often, they deserve it.
undone beacon
Love or hate the meta it’s just not a healthy way to look at balance
Brothers, we must elevate all tanks
Not drag them down
Tank solidarity
lime mantle
VDH is the new guy, they deserve hazing, simple as :^)
I like vdh I am mostly shitposting. A lot of current M+/raid design issues stem from DPS players sobbing incredibly loudly over stupid shit. Another big one is the insane passive EHP gap between dps and tanks which means that 2 random x bolt casts or a bolt+random aoe damage will flatline a dps in 0.5s if an interrupt isn't done properly because that bolt also needs to meaningfully threaten someone with x2-5 their HP and x5 their baseline DR.
lusty grotto
Punishment for being tier so often, they deserve it.
nah thats not cool
its blizzard's fault for not looking at comp synergy
not the class
or the players of it
undone beacon
“VDH is the new guy”
legion was 9 years ago
Christ almighty we need a new tank
small steeple
lusty grotto
fucking christ that gif gave me a mini heart attack
small steeple
then it worked
undone beacon
Mods, break their femur
small steeple
❤️
small steeple
undone beacon
small steeple
gonna beat this dog up too?
small steeple
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/366965349767184397/819140247291953172/i...
saved
undone beacon
gonna beat this dog up too?
undone beacon
Man I’ve been neglecting the bear this season. I’ve ran 40+ keys in the warr and like, 8 on the Druid lmao
Prot is just too giga rn
small steeple
raid lead wanted me on ppal for raid buff, so I've not touched pwar because it will make me sad
undone beacon
ppal raid buff?
small steeple
devo aura
undone beacon
that’s crazy to me cuz our raid has 3 ret pallies and a holy
undone beacon
I might have to swap Bear for prog just because our Druid is…. Not doing too hot on the ol meters
small steeple
and the hpal swapped to spriest/holy priest
undone beacon
We literally have so much plate in our raid but they’re also our best performers
Four pallies, two DKs, two warriors
And four shamans
undone beacon
Yeah I don’t envy them
lime mantle
“VDH is the new guy”
>legion was 9 years ago
Christ almighty we need a new tank
A-any day now 🥲
lament zealot
Is tome sim bait, it doesn't seem to be doing the damage I remember it doing?
lusty grotto
youre remembering wrong
lament zealot
I don't think I am. It was doing a shit load of damage last season
lusty grotto
you are remembering wrong
link the log youre looking at
this is a breakdown from last season
on a key, not pure ST
for context, thats a maxed out s2 hero track tome
cerulean kite
this is a breakdown from last season
Is the damage talent duration or the CD reduction better for thunderous roar
azure crag
when you use shield block, does the excess chance to block do anything, or is it just wasted?
lusty grotto
its irrelevant
azure crag
mmmm, fair enough
pallid quiver
when you use shield block, does the excess chance to block do anything, or is it...
unless the rare situation occurs where something drops your block chance
Which the only time I can think of being the case in years is Theater of Pain minibosses
warm plinth
I don't think Shield Block even results in excess block chance
pallid quiver
It flat out gives you 100% block chance iirc
warm plinth
Doesn't it just guarantee blocks? It's not a block chance increase technically
strong forum
It grants +100% block chance
pallid quiver
Nah, since if you got hit with the miniboss debuff in Theater,
You wouldn't block every hit
lusty grotto
Luerce is right
warm plinth
I see
lusty grotto
but its such a situational case that its not worth considering
warm plinth
Yeah, interesting to know I suppose
pallid quiver
yeah, literally one mechanic in years I can think of off the top of my head
strong forum
Whatever you have over the 100%, is then the critblock (which is exactly your mastery aswell)
lusty grotto
yeah i think thats what they meant as excess
azure crag
Oh, so the excess gets turned into crit block chance?
strong forum
Doesnt get turned to, it's just
There
Like if you have 40% mastery
You have 40% critblock chance
warm plinth
He was asking about excess block chance with Shield Block, which does nothing (except in the aforementioned rare circumstance)
idle copper
For hectic boss fights is there a better way to to make sure you are taunting the boss (rather than an add) than a focus macro?
rich solar
What exactly is a critblock, 100% damage reduce?
strong forum
It's just double block
pallid quiver
Blocks double the damage value up to a cap of 80%
strong forum
85*
lusty grotto
For hectic boss fights is there a better way to to make sure you are taunting th...
on what situation is this?
strong forum
Block is just armor, ontop of armor, and crit block is armor ontop of armor ontop of armor
Essentially
lusty grotto
what do you mean by "hectic boss fight"
rich solar
the armor W A L L
strong forum
For hectic boss fights is there a better way to to make sure you are taunting th...
Target the thing you wanna taunt, lol
Or mouse over the boss-frame
That's how I always did it
Just, tab
lusty grotto
focus taunt is a cursed macro
pallid quiver
Target the thing you wanna taunt, lol
this, yeah
You can focus it to make it easier to target, or if you get desperate enough, you can make a specific macro specifically to target whatever one singular enemy you have a problem with
lusty grotto
should never be used
strong forum
nome why is the wall tracker gone from your WA
Hm?
lusty grotto
mouseover, cursor, are fine
strong forum
Should still be there no?
idle copper
I normally just have taunt as a mouse over. It's not proving reliable when there's a few adds
lusty grotto
i dont see it, let me reimport
rich solar
tab taunt
strong forum
Just check your load conditions nim
I have only logged in for like 15seconds to do a few load conditions cuz I remembered randomly to update the pack
strong forum
Yeah you didn't update
lusty grotto
red right hand
strong forum
Your pack
strong forum
I only updated mine like 2 days ago
lusty grotto
yeah
strong forum
Cuz I uh, don't play
lusty grotto
i updated then but might have skipped some position thing
strong forum
Could be
azure crag
Man, as cute as my little gnome tank is
having to swim through knee-high water in floodgate is racial discrimination
azure crag
RUDE
pallid quiver
https://tenor.com/view/midget-fail-falling-run-kick-gif-17924302
you
i like you
gnome bully is good culture
on a serious note, god damn that was rude to just ball a man like that
lyric loom
how do yall go about first pull in gambit? i struggle sometimes trying to keep aggro as im grouping. do you pull one or two packs get aggro then slowly move over to the next group
pallid quiver
if someone pulls aggro while I'm gathering, they deserved death
if your tank is heroic leaping around and charging around, and your first reaction is "imma start blastin' "
lyric loom
lmao
pallid quiver
I know @warm plinth would panic and fuss over this
But I simply go "long live the king" and watch them go
bleak breach
Generally if I avatar and Thunderblast I’ve never had an issue there
If you run colossus it could be a problem
warm plinth
tbf I don't usually have issues with that pull
Charge the right-most pull, heroic throw the one to the left of it, then leap over to the far left pull and come back to the middle of them and I'm pretty much set
Then just snag the giant when he's close enough
solid sun
I think adopting the mentality that Luerce described is very important when learning to tank keys
Sometimes ret paladins are just gonna wake of ashes divine storm while you're leaping around gathering stuff, and they're going to die, and it's going to be their fault
warm plinth
Yeah I don't really get it; when I play DPS I make sure the tank is done before I do anything
lusty grotto
funny story about priory
i need the ring for fury, and i need bracers and boots for both
besides tome
but hey here's some shoulders for the 7th time, oh heres a shield too
solid sun
lol
lyric loom
If you run colossus it could be a problem
yeah im running colossus atm because i dont have any tier yet
lusty grotto
just charge one clap, leap another clap, charge another clap
everything close to being gathered? troar
or challenging
can probably substitute a clap for troar and just challenging when close to gathered
since clap wont be up as repeatedly
lyric loom
yeah ill try to that next time. its also in combination with dps not letting me get aggro first lol
lusty grotto
theyll never do that
not on that pull and especially not when someone rips lust before the pull is done
ebon scaffold
Mythic prog tonight. Anyone using anything other than Alchemical flask for raids?
lusty grotto
of course
why would people use the alchemical garbage
i mean its not bad but its low mid
actually why would anyone use a spark for it lmao
lusty grotto
nay, but gambit is done at 20 runs
lusty grotto
i have my ways 
ebon scaffold
why would people use the alchemical garbage
You running crit? Or verse?
waxen cradle
LOL
lusty grotto
huh
lusty grotto
You running crit? Or verse?
i said of course to "were running something other than that garbo trinket"
solid sun
Too many priories
lusty grotto
too much dungeon spamming
anyway very little reason to run something other than chaos
quick surge
Quick question, codex of first technique is working properly ?(even if not much is mitigated)
lusty grotto
yes its working properly, its garbage
burnt prism
Y'all, any tips on beating undead sir braumpyke in priory? I am feeling the loss of spell block.
warm plinth
I thought spell block didn't work on that anyway, or am I misremembering?
lusty grotto
it didnt
lunar flare
Y'all, any tips on beating undead sir braumpyke in priory? I am feeling the loss...
Die, blame the healer, type /abandon and call everyone plebs
Works for me
frosty mango
Quick question, codex of first technique is working properly ?(even if not much ...
If you can still vendor it, it’s working properly
elfin burrow
Is the block value on the shield just a flat value that gets subtracted from attacks if you block? Could a block reduce an incoming attack to 0 if the block value is higher than the damage?
lusty grotto
no