protection

[lusty grotto]

.................

[restive oak]

should i just send second craft belt? i have a myth weapon, crafted shield

[ionic nimbus]

Tome…

[lusty grotto]

you gotta be fucking kidding me

[rough egret]

haha

[restive oak]

and my bracers are good stat hero track with socket

[lusty grotto]

no

do crafted bracers

[rough egret]

you can sim

[restive oak]

yeah, but the socketed decent bracers made me question that choice

[lusty grotto]

there's no question

[ionic nimbus]

But delve belt

[lusty grotto]

sim it and youll see

[restive oak]

true

[rich solar]

In pretty sure the delve belt is pulling extra packs in Dungeons

I just cant prove it yet

Doakes.gif

[lusty grotto]

it will be if youre running it on the wrong power

make sure its on spark burst

and/or critical chain

those are the only good for warriors, of any spec

charged bolts WILL PULL

and its no bueno

[torpid dome]

Do you take an embellish on crafted weap?

[vivid thunder]

when do we replace that belt? is there an ilvl threshold it becomes less desireable?

[lusty grotto]

you can

you can just swap it afterwards

[lusty grotto]

whenever sims tell you to

but probably not right now

[torpid dome]

Myth weap track, and then whenever sim isbbetter

[torpid dome]

Yeh true

[hasty quest]

isnt bad choice btw? i saw a video from yoda that best trinket are gambit stats and raid with crit

[fierce cradle]

Do we craft belt and wrists?

[spice iron]

I haven't sent any crafts yet, what's the reason we don't send both crafts into gilded weapon + shield if you're still stuck with hero?

[torpid dome]

You do

Craft prio
Shield > weapon > embellish > low ilvl pieces

[fierce cradle]

why tho, loomithar drops shield

[torpid dome]

Try to get it myth track

Crafted shield > hero track loom shield

And shield is the biggest upgrade we can get

Eventually

[lusty grotto]

can you kill it in myth?

[fierce cradle]

yes

[lusty grotto]

and can you guarantee that youll get the shield?

have you killed it this week?

[spice iron]

We didn't get Dimensius down last week, so we're still at least a week or two away from mythic I'd wager

[torpid dome]

When you get myth track shield from some source, you switch to crafted bracers

[vocal roost]

Im crafting shield cause i dont mythic raid 😎

[fierce cradle]

last week no, but this week I think we can go 2/8

[lusty grotto]

even if you mythic raid

the only downside to crafting a shield is losing the 1st spark

[torpid dome]

Yep

[fierce cradle]

and if it drops im likely to get it

[lusty grotto]

you get discounted on a myth shield for 5/6 tracks

[spice iron]

So just full send both sparks into 720 weapon and shield?

[lusty grotto]

free upgrades

[torpid dome]

And you want that 720 shield anyways for myth raiding

[lusty grotto]

thats the crafting order

unless you can guarantee that you will get first myth boss (for weapon) and 2nd myth boss (for shield) AND get the drops

[restive oak]

belt is like 30k ahead of crafted bracers for me

[lusty grotto]

the longer you wait, the worse it will be

then go with what the sims say

[restive oak]

in dslice

[vocal roost]

Is the 701 delve belt still atttainable?

[lusty grotto]

dont fucking do dslice

youre not new here clapnoth

you know full well the APL is not optimized for dungeon slice

[lusty grotto]

yes

[vocal roost]

Is it better than any belt till we get a myth track one?

[lusty grotto]

probably up until 6/6 hero

but its hard to say

[neon elk]

Either high hero or myth track

[vocal roost]

Perf, im only 670 ilvl so its a nice upgrade

[neon elk]

710 with socket was siming better for me few days ago, but aint no way im spending glided on hero belt to get it to 710

[rustic sequoia]

Mountain thane prot warrior makes no sense to me... so much rage gen u just spam ignore pain a million times even tho the absorb is maxed. Feels clunky as fk

[lusty grotto]

you must be new to warrior

[frank surge]

hey guys, any input for this? atm i only have tier legs, but i got 2 upgrades available, so im leaning towards taking shoulders and getting 4p, crafting a 720 shield+onehand
(i only do m+, very limited raiding)
Only thing im contemplating is the shield since its myth track

[lusty grotto]

thats how it was before rage gen got nerfed

[jagged pier]

Shield

[lusty grotto]

100% shield

and then skip crafting

[vocal roost]

Did i make a good vault choice? I picked mythic legs and catalyzed it

[lusty grotto]

on to weapon

[torpid dome]

Yep shield is the way to go there

[frank surge]

really 😮

[lusty grotto]

yes really

[torpid dome]

Myth shield > crafted shield

[lusty grotto]

they dont even have crafted

so

[frank surge]

at max upgrade its only +2 ilvls of crafted shield though isnt it? and it isnt bis stats unlike crafted shield

[lusty grotto]

thats moot

[frank surge]

ohhh they dont?

[torpid dome]

Get that thing to 6/6 and then never worry about it again

[lusty grotto]

you did say "crafting a..."

[torpid dome]

Yeah but he was contemplating to take something else then craft

[lusty grotto]

so you dont have crafted shield

but even if you do

you pick shield

[frank surge]

yea

okay thanks for the input guys

[vocal roost]

Should i still craft weapon if i got heroic?

[lusty grotto]

yes

we're very serious about ilvl > all

especially on shields, especially on weapons

[restive oak]

they within 5k of eachother in patchwerk

[lusty grotto]

i would 100% go for bracers dude

but ultimately its your decision

[restive oak]

it does have more stats

[rich solar]

Craft a cloak

[restive oak]

5head

[torpid dome]

Lmao gigabrain

Can we upgrade to cloak lvl 5 this week?

[restive oak]

to 720, if thats level 5, i dont know

[torpid dome]

Alright, noice

Remember, you can upgrade via Macro, no need to go to npc

[rich solar]

But i need to got to the npc for the weekly quest for transmogs 🙁

[restive oak]

but if i craft bracers i should just use my free crating rune crest on it probably and save my gilded for good stuff until later probably

[lusty grotto]

yes

you should

100%

[torpid dome]

Dont you want gilded craft on bracers anyways?

[lusty grotto]

eventually

[restive oak]

like the last thing i do

pretty much

[lusty grotto]

but not right off the bat, you wanna save gilded for other stuff

there's a big constraint of the gilded cap

[restive oak]

or once i have more than i can realistically spend on mythic pieces

[eternal ivy]

How important is the crafter belt bonus?
In vault I have mythic belt or tier gloves what you think 🤔

[lusty grotto]

man i forgot how garbage reset day is

[rich solar]

Hahahaha

[lusty grotto]

im kinda tired of vault questions

someone take it away

[frank surge]

sorry :(( 😄

[lusty grotto]

im just saying in general

[rich solar]

I can take over for a minute

[restive oak]

i took bis dungeon weapon over sac, cuz i'd eventually be looking to replace sac anyway

[lusty grotto]

the tl;dr is sim

[rich solar]

Just gonna reply "Craft cloak" every time

[charred lagoon]

Is the Ring from Dimensius worth it for the proc?`Sounds pretty bad at first glance. Decision is between the Ring (Champion) and Tier legs (Hero) Wouldve gotten Tier anyway, but Legs is a Champion -> Hero Upgrade

[restive oak]

bis dungeon weapon is forever

[elfin cosmos]

what you guys think.. D:

[spice iron]

How much do we realisticly care for Ringing Ritual Mud? Got a myth track one in the vault, but I'm generally a bit iffy on what to pick

[frank surge]

bis trinket at 707

[restive oak]

i mean if your pushing like a super high key maybe

but probably not

[elfin cosmos]

Tome ?

[frank surge]

yea but im noob so dont trust solely on my call KEKW

[mighty valley]

yeah take time

tome

[frank surge]

based off what ive read id say tome is best though

[viscid lantern]

Isint Tome with Floodgate trink the 2 BiS for Prot?

[rich solar]

The ring seems like a raid only ring

[restive oak]

from dungeon

[lusty grotto]

Vault TL;DR:

ilvl > all, sim otherwise, pick myth track shields, myth track weapons, myth track trinkets (especially Tome, Pace, Idol, Sacbrood, Soleah's) over whatever else - if youre not sure sim.

NO "BIS ITEM" is worth keeping over ilvls and/or numbers gained.

sim sim sim sim

[elfin cosmos]

I'm not even sure what tome does D:

[restive oak]

brand is bis

[charred lagoon]

Ty!

[rich solar]

If your lazy Tome is D tier cause you have to press it sometimes

[rustic sequoia]

Brand trinket did 8.7% of my total damage in flood gate

[lusty grotto]

yes brand is turbo bis, we know

[prisma vortex]

signet trinket any good?

[lusty grotto]

no

[restive oak]

not really

[lusty grotto]

signet is dogshit

we're not a 2min class

we're a 1:30 class

[restive oak]

if we have an on use its 90

[rich solar]

Are we tho

[prisma vortex]

but avatar is more like once every 1 min no?

[lusty grotto]

only use it if you dont have anythign else

[prisma vortex]

sooo

[restive oak]

45ish really

[lusty grotto]

no, avatar is every 45s

[prisma vortex]

or less i g

[lusty grotto]

with proper rage use

[restive oak]

45x2= 90 tho

[prisma vortex]

fair

[waxen cradle]

If you dont have 4 set from last season does Colossus still pull ahead until 4 set S3 ? Or are they even

[prisma vortex]

is eradicating arcano really that good? it sims highest on 704s

i dont have seaforium yet

[restive oak]

yeah

[lusty grotto]

colossus still pulls ahead in aoe yes

until 4pc

[prisma vortex]

idk when i looked at overall in dungeon on eradicating when i tested it i wasnt really wowed by it

not like brand ire trinket xd

[rich solar]

I lost count on how many times i died due to colossus

[lusty grotto]

skill issue

[rich solar]

Big true

[restive oak]

i kinda like colossus

mt can get kinda shield slam/clappy

[lusty grotto]

i prefer colossus

only cause thane gameplay is literally the same gameplay that we've had since BFA

[restive oak]

immovable object is nice too

[rustic sequoia]

My ignore pain finger is going to fall off playing mountain thane

[prisma vortex]

best gameplay

[rich solar]

Pressing shieldwall for damage was fun

[restive oak]

i wish we got conquerors banner over spear

[lusty grotto]

if you played it since, its really not the best it gets boring after 4 fucking expansions

[thick dock]

What stats/embellishment for crafted shield? Still crit/haste w/ duskthread lining?

[lusty grotto]

whatever sims best

[prisma vortex]

fair enough, played it during bfa and DF

skipped shadowlands well because it was ass xd

[rich solar]

I started in shadowlands

[lusty grotto]

banner gameplay was pretty decent

[rich solar]

Game became better every since

[lusty grotto]

if not one of the best iterations of it

SL was a dogshit exp

[calm hinge]

what does colossus even do

[restive oak]

is beeg

[lusty grotto]

its revenge focused

[rich solar]

Makes you spam revenge for big numbers

[lusty grotto]

instead of just infinite rage

demands proper rage management

[calm hinge]

ah fun

fuck that

[lusty grotto]

good thing its just an opinion

it cant hurt you brother

[rich solar]

I feel like colossus had more defensive capabilities

[rigid hull]

IS Ceaseless ire a S tier trinket cuz of defense or damage @lusty grotto

[calm hinge]

ofc it cant

[lusty grotto]

damage

[calm hinge]

its like good for you if you can do that coz it sounds hella more interactive

[rigid hull]

and it sims the more time u fight?

[calm hinge]

but im fucking ass

[restive oak]

what was the last s tier trinket that was purely defensive for prot war? :x

[rigid hull]

sims more *

[lusty grotto]

just like anvil, cataclysmic signet and kezan

[rigid hull]

cuz i simmed on 1/5 min patchwerk and it was a loss

[lusty grotto]

yes

[rigid hull]

i see

[lusty grotto]

ceaseless ire needs 5 min sims

[rigid hull]

cool cool

[high latch]

Am I completely braindead if I pick this? It'll get me hero track 4pc immediately and I currently have 671 4pc from last season.
The myth track shoulders will probably be better long term, but...

[rich solar]

The cheat death trinket from dragon flight mega Dungeon?

[restive oak]

well that yeah

[lusty grotto]

that wasnt s tier

not even close

it was dreadplates in s4

technically

[restive oak]

if you were pushing real high it was very nice

it's s tier in it's niche

[lusty grotto]

nah

it wasnt s tier period

[restive oak]

if you're going to raid, you should probably do that see what you get and then decide

[rich solar]

Cant think of any trinkets that were defensive focuses that were mega bis

[prisma vortex]

i dont think u ever wanna skip a myth track tho

[lusty grotto]

i just said Dreadplates

thats it

[prisma vortex]

personally* unless ur some 6/8 M raider already

[lusty grotto]

thats the one

[high latch]

Yeeeaahh.. But 4pc though

[prisma vortex]

hold it until u do raids i guess?

if ur that desperate for it

[high latch]

Not gonna raid this season

[prisma vortex]

ah

when is next catalyst?

[rigid hull]

dreadplate + anvil was peak fun i FUCKING SWEAR

such fun trinkets as prot war

[lusty grotto]

100%

[high latch]

Next week, right?

[lusty grotto]

next week yes

for catalyst charge

[high latch]

Actually yeah. Getting 4pc one week early by skipping a myth item sound stupid. Thanks.

[restive oak]

glad we could help

[rich solar]

S tier trinket, purely defensive: Lifegiving Gem

No damage to it.

[restive oak]

lol

[frosty mango]

thane is back and im here for it

[rich solar]

Look at me, im the dps now

[blazing ridge]

What key is this?

[frosty mango]

this is a carry priory

[blazing ridge]

Nice

I think my IP / SS macro is messing me up, probably need to take SS off of it

[lusty grotto]

why

just dont use it to SS

as you should

you only press it to IP

if youve been pressing it to SS, youre fucking yourself

the guides specifically say not to do so

[blazing ridge]

Nah I am not

Probably spamming it too often sometimes, and then me missing Violent Outbursts on Thunderblasts

[lusty grotto]

technically

if youre on gcd

the SS never goes off

but it does get queue'd

so it depends on your latency and skill SPELL queue settings

but i understand what youre saying

[blazing ridge]

I think thats what might be messing me up

But obviously skill issue

[lusty grotto]

might be worth a try to just put natty IP there

[blazing ridge]

Yeah

[rich solar]

How do i increase my skill setting

[lusty grotto]

i dont think its a skill issue necessarily

[blazing ridge]

Just gonna give it a try later with clean IP

[lusty grotto]

yeah go for it

[pearl storm]

sitting on 0 pice with 2 catalyst charges.

What to pick from Vault (all myth track)

• shoulder (crit/haste)
• helmet (crit/vers)
• pacemaker

[mighty valley]

the macro started seeing use when there was basically nothing other than long CDs that you’d want to press over ss

[blazing ridge]

Or maybe just put Thunderclap on it?

[lusty grotto]

absolutely not

[lofty glen]

wanna die...... have 720 shield....

need the set for 4p. fraktilus boots are in there too

[mighty valley]

guess I’d take pacemaker here, you’ll see the others again

[lusty grotto]

you dont want to die, you want that myth shield

and you freely upgrade it to 5/6

due to your crafted

[lofty glen]

but 4p is so crazy strong no?

[lusty grotto]

youll get 4pc next week

[rich solar]

Pacemaker has a lower chance to show up again vs any armor piece you can convert

[lusty grotto]

or by other means

[lofty glen]

and shield is vers mastery

[lusty grotto]

doesnt matter

shield is myth

thats' all that matters

[torn gulch]

shield is more important than anything

that's a piece you'll have all season now

[lusty grotto]

the only stat that is important on shields is block which is only increased by ilvl

[torn gulch]

and you only pay 15 crests to upgrade it which means you only "wasted" a spark which is not that big of a problem

season is long

[split kiln]

What is best to craft with 2 sparks?

[lusty grotto]

shield and weapon

[split kiln]

Shield + Bracers or Shield + Weapon?

Ok wasn't sure if Bracers was better for Embellish

[lusty grotto]

its not

time

[lone nest]

I'm pretty sure Blizz is just trolling with these but what are the Vambraces of Verification actually used for? Do their stat budgets lose any value because of this (seemingly irrelevant) cantrip effect?

I'm intrigued if their stat budgets (+leech) are the same as normal bracers since this is my biggest upgrade. But would love to hear from smarter people here

I have 2pc and can easily grind out hero gear in m+ so it would be between the myth/hero wrist and champion level astral antenna

[hearty cipher]

what a depressing vault

no 4pc for me and i have sac brood and pacemaker right now

but i guess its signet

[rough egret]

Socket

[hearty cipher]

the worst feeling option

🙁

[rough egret]

I was there last week

[torpid dome]

I think socket might be an option in your case yeah 😮

maybe signet?

[rough egret]

Nah its not good for us

[torpid dome]

I have still shit tier trinkets

[hearty cipher]

I have hero sacbrood and champion pacemaker I could probably replace the pacemaker for ilvl but yeah signet not really great trinket

[torpid dome]

rocking signet & swarmgland rn lmao

[rough egret]

Socket is good option save it for belt and wrist craft

Next vaults will be good

Surely

[torpid dome]

hopefully next vaults I get some decent trinkets from them lmao

[humble pebble]

same for me, also going to pick pacemaker. not the best pick currently, but overall.

[torpid dome]

I'm wondering tho, is there a reason why we pick mainly dps trinkets over defensive trinkets as prot warrior?

more dmg == more rage generation?

[rough egret]

Because offensive is the best defensive stat

They cant hurt you if they dead

Also the defensive value from the teinkets is not worth

[rich solar]

Apart from a big fck off shield from mudblood, most defensive trinkets offer us very little

[rough egret]

Crit is a defensive stat too

[torpid dome]

hmm alright

[rough egret]

Even mud trinket is not that usefull this tier as the bosses that we were using it for got nerfed

[rich solar]

Oh yeahhh

[torpid dome]

was wondering since some of the ppl in my group were doubting my decision that I was pushing for dps trinkets lmao

[sharp merlin]

Tanking has changed that damage = defence

[rich solar]

Also more dmg = more threat

[rough egret]

Tome+Brand is the way

With Pacemaker as filler

[torpid dome]

alr

then I'll aim for that...

[rough egret]

They both gives Crit, which makes parrygod happy

[torpid dome]

I guess if I get champion tier brand of ceaseless ire from raid, that goes over the trinkets I have rn lmao

[rough egret]

Yes most likely

At 704 its still very strong

[torpid dome]

signet/swarmgland is what i got,
Swarmgland has gotta go but I need to get a decent alternative

[rigid hull]

is ascedance emblishment good? @lusty grotto

im gonna craft a weapon today

need more damage

[rich solar]

Think hes sleeping but yeah

[restive oak]

if you're crafting weapon, probably yeah

but sim to be sure

[tall tide]

Hey folks myth pacemaker or mud?

[restive oak]

pacemaker all day

every day

[tall tide]

cheers mate

[restive oak]

its one of t he best dungeon trinkets you can get

[torpid dome]

Only bested by ire and tome

[blazing ridge]

I think I take Pacemaker here or? Already have Hero Set Head..

[restive oak]

yeah

easier to hit another myth helm

[acoustic grotto]

Hello fellow shieldbearer !
Got almost a shitty vault but MAYBE this waist can maybe replace the delve one. What do you think about that ? Idk if the proc of the delve waist is very relevant or a flat stat is better.

[restive oak]

belt is usable long term, just not exciting

[weak spade]

I am so confused on what to get

[restive oak]

probably tome

[torpid dome]

Tome

100% tome

[restive oak]

you can craft a weapon

[torpid dome]

Myth track trinket is your biggest upgrade you can get

Just craft the weap yea

[acoustic grotto]

Yep a bit of disapointment when vault is open but i guess belt is better than slot gem xD

[dull relic]

do u try n outburst a buffed tb or still shield slam st

[torpid dome]

Ss on cooldown if you have

[stark cradle]

insane trinket vault. surely this is tome angle right?

[dull relic]

insta

[torpid dome]

Ss reduces cooldowns of shield block, avatar and shield wall at least

So shieldslam every time you can

[torpid dome]

Oeh that hero track ire looks juicy as well

[restive oak]

without a question tome

[sharp obsidian]

What are we saying boys? I crafted the shield last week, I have 2 piece and 1 remaining catalyst, I have champion 1H

[rough egret]

Weapon

[restive oak]

blade so we can be twins

[rough egret]

Or triceps

I have it too 😄

[rough egret]

Yeah Brand will eventually drop for you on HC

[stone ice]

just took a look at the damage breakdown for a moment. is it even worth pressing revenge on thane at all?

it seems marginal and basically a waste of rage that would actually be better spend being an IP or something, its 2.5% of the sim

[rough egret]

As a filler

[restive oak]

like procs somtime, like you cant press tc or ss, to reset ss

but not very much, no

[rough egret]

Also rage dump on 8+ targets iirc

<8 you dump execute

[delicate mason]

Ive got a hero 1hand bis stats and crafted shield. Do I craft a weapon or do an armor slot? Is crafted weapon being 10 ilvl more that much bigger than a maxed hero wep?

[prime sphinx]

hold till reclear type angle

[next trench]

has anyone attempted 5 tank hardmode? or are dispels an issue

[torpid dome]

I would prob go for the myth track weap

[prime sphinx]

im only one who needs 1h str wep ill wait till mythic reclear

[torpid dome]

yeah then it makes sense

[mint shadow]

whats the best use of gilded after crafting? next spark is in two week so just spend and send it all on upgrading any mythic gear?

[torpid dome]

What are your crafts?

I think it's Crafts > decent trinkets > Mythic gear pieces

flatlined

[jagged pier]

no thats wep

[idle copper]

Sanity check. I have hero gear (in my bag) for the tier slots but currently only have champion tier legs.

I have x2 tier tokens currently

My mythic vault gear was a belt and trash

But I have chance for tier hero hands

I have 45 guilded (+this week's 90) and full rune crests (already crafted guilded shield)

I take the hands and tier x2 hero slots to get my 4 piece yep?

2nd question:

I have a 710 hero 1H (upgraded for free by getting a 710 2H drop)

I still craft my 1H with guilded this week ?

[rough nest]

I'll craft weap+shield this week but for vault IDK. Bracers ?

[cunning tide]

What are we using to sim? Is there certain settings to check on Raidbots for tanks?

Got mythic Sacbrood and 2 trash stat necks in vaults, but already got Hero Peacemaker/Idol in my trinket slots

[jagged pier]

myth tier piece

[rough nest]

Already got 4P, if I pick gloves can't use them til next week

And of course they will be in GV 😄

[jagged pier]

thats fine

u arent ever going to replace them when u cata them

u will replace bracers with a crafted emblishemnt

[vale escarp]

would be great to get a myth set part...

[jagged pier]

u do

right there in the middle line

stop thinking for just a week

think into the future

u get a cata charge next week

u ahve a myth piece right there

[vale escarp]

still only got one set from the last boss, will wait until I finished this weeks ids

but atleast its a token so I can chose freely

[rich raptor]

yo guys, open for opinions

[rough nest]

Alrighty then

[torpid dome]

I think you take the weap here

as in the myth track weap

[weak kettle]

hey, do we play the lightning rod proc on this funny waist or we can play haste proc?

[neon elk]

U play haste/crit proc

Probably haste but simable

[weak kettle]

oh then logs might be bugged xd

since it shows me the lightning rod everywhere

and was courious bout that

💪🏼

[round pendant]

sadge

at least I got myth sword early this time

I'm never getting 4p tho

[blazing shuttle]

I'll NEVER open vault as Prot again.

💀

[round pendant]

why

[blazing shuttle]

Isn't Gland bad?

[mellow bridge]

Myth hands, looks like a good vault to me

[blazing shuttle]

Or am I high on hatium?

[neon elk]

It is but so is 2h and half of dps trinkets

[blazing shuttle]

Oh yeah super happy about it.

Super happy about the gloves tier set.

Honestly, season is starting...

Almost too well.

[halcyon crystal]

https://imgur.com/N7Mcogb

i need help

[blazing shuttle]

Holy

[halcyon crystal]

trinket or tier set

[blazing shuttle]

Is the tier set mythic

[halcyon crystal]

yes

[blazing shuttle]

Holy luck batman

[round pendant]

tier set

[blazing shuttle]

Yeah tier set 1000000000000%

[warm plinth]

Trinket is nothing special

[round pendant]

how many people need to vote in /abandon

[halcyon crystal]

gloves or pants

pants is more stats right

[round pendant]

compare them

but, yes

[idle copper]

Already have 710 1H with a slim but not impossible chance of running 1/8 mythic atm. Still craft 720 1H?

[burnt crane]

is Void Pactstone worth it or I take the set part ?

[jagged pier]

tier piece

[torpid dome]

yes

could wait until after 1/8 myth to see what drops

[idle copper]

Ty, and makes sense yep 😄

[inland garnet]

Hey, does anyone else think that M+ sub 12 is too easy? There are already a decent amount of 3k or sth rio people after a week in the patch

[torpid dome]

in general M+ becomes easier with ongoing seasons within an expansion, due to power creep

[round pendant]

Yeah, but that's their goal

[torpid dome]

so S1 you saw that 3k rio was quite difficult

S2 it became easier to achieve

and S3 it will be even easier

[round pendant]

no, they've actively tuned m+ to be easier starting with last season

[inland garnet]

hmm but what's the point to trivialize it

after a few weeks casual gaming and most people will be done with it

(unless they play for the title)

[charred lagoon]

I got 701 Wep and 704 shield. Still running 671 shoulders from last season. Is it worth to craft shoulders or is it a waste in the long run? I already have 4set.

[torpid dome]

craft shield, then weap

[charred lagoon]

ty

[vagrant falcon]

stupid question. does it make any difference in wich weapontype iam using?. iam bout to craft a onehanded weapon and was thinking about getting fistweapon for the tmogg

[turbid yoke]

I crafted 720 shield already, didnt get wep in vault. so i guess its a wep craft now is the most power gain 🙂 ?

[round pendant]

doesn't matter no

[hushed smelt]

Pace vs tome for keys? Just sim or any thoughts? Sitting with ire as 2nd

[zenith aurora]

Depends if you need the defensive

[vague light]

bruh... do i pick soleah or seaforium

[round pendant]

pacemaker

[jagged pier]

u pick the legs

[round pendant]

or legs yeah

[torpid dome]

yeo

[jagged pier]

pacemaker is garbo compared to my 704 ire and 701 tome its a .4% upgrade at 723

i ran the sim yesterday

pacemaker is useless

[jagged pier]

tome

[jagged pier]

doesnt matter

and it wont get buffed, they very rearly change gear after season start

[limber cosmos]

Hi, just got a Reactive Webbed Escutcheon on a hero track. Im guessing its not really worth using considering the loss of stamina and secondaries?

[round pendant]

damn they nerfed pacemaker?

[jagged pier]

they nerfed tome too

well and they didnt nerf the damage proc of it

[round pendant]

They should like, stop fucking with trinkets

[jagged pier]

yep

[round pendant]

yeah but it's still annoying how since we're tanks we're not allowed giga trinks now

[torpid dome]

you want to use a crafted shield with embellishment, until you get a myth track shield

[round pendant]

sadge

[jagged pier]

i mean

ire is giga

[round pendant]

shame I'm never getting it

lmao

[night scroll]

What embellishments are we going for

[jagged pier]

lets do 370k dps

[limber cosmos]

I already got a weapon and bracers craft. I actually have a myth track shield sitting in vaul currently. Just unsure should i take it since its Crit Mastery

[fair beacon]

question: so there was a weapon upgrade bug last week that took 60 of my gilded instead of 30 (as if you upgraded both slots), meaning that atm I can upgrade a shield for free to 710. how much of a power difference is in 10 ilvl for the shield? should I stick with my 710 shield or blast through another 60 gilded for a max crafted one?

[jagged pier]

crit

[torpid dome]

take the myth track shield

[jagged pier]

massive

[torpid dome]

Ilvl > Stat prio, espec if you crafted weap + bracers and have no option to craft shield rn

[torn gulch]

we need a pin of some sort that says that stats don't matter on a shield

except ilvl

[fair beacon]

so, blow through another 60 gilded for the shield and maybe upgrade the sacbrood I got from vault with the rest of mah gilded?

[limber cosmos]

hmmm i guess, and crits not thta bad

[torpid dome]

none of the stats are bad

[fair beacon]

Like a fullblown idiot I had no idea the rare drop boot existed, and having gotten a good wrist I crafted boots 😄

[raw parcel]

Hmm... Got seaforium trinket, sacbrood, and ritual mud. Not sure which two to use, becauseI love them all.

[torpid dome]

you want to hit your haste breakpoint at 21k haste, other than that you just want other stats

[torpid dome]

rip

[night scroll]

Dawnthread?

[torpid dome]

seaforium + sacbrood I think

[rough egret]

Mr @jagged pier how was your vault? 🙂

[raw parcel]

Doesn't make you an idiot. What are the odds you'll even get the rare boots? And by the time you do you'll probably have sparks aplenty, even if you do.

[torn gulch]

i'm playing without raid boots this season i'm actually curious how it's gonna go

[burnt crane]

some of you wil craft shield ?

[raw parcel]

Well that's the right answer for damage, but this ritual mud has saved my ass several times XD

[jagged pier]

myth shield, cant complain

[jagged pier]

which ever give crit

[fair beacon]

they are in pugs, everyone rolls 😄

[rough egret]

Big! I got sword. Im fine too

[raw parcel]

I got tier helm, let me activate 4 piece. Quite pleased with the vault I got. 😄

[proper flax]

Hey Guys, do I Take the mythic Pacemaker or the Antenna? the SIM says Antenna

[rough egret]

what about tier?

[proper flax]

trinkets are kinda harder to get

[jagged pier]

both those trinkets are garbo

[proper flax]

not even pacemaker?

[torn gulch]

I got 707 tier pants with leech
a decent first vault this season

[proper flax]

Which Trinkets do i want till end of season?

[jagged pier]

brand and tome

[proper flax]

Tome and this DMG Raid trinket from frac?

[torn gulch]

tome and brand

[rough egret]

Both are tank trinkets

[vague light]

dont you lose too much str by playing both?

in like m+

[jagged pier]

it doesnt matter

[rich pulsar]

For m+, myth sac or myth tier legs?

[jagged pier]

they put out more damage than strength will

[proper flax]

so Shoulders right?

[jagged pier]

yes

[jagged pier]

tier

[sudden grotto]

I assume these are useless?

and cant actually proc in m+

[jagged pier]

u will be crafting bracers

okay let me make a message ppl can link too

[untold isle]

Yo guys, whats our second craft

1st shield mythic

2. is bracers or 1h ?

[jagged pier]

SHIELD > WEP > TIER (OR CATA PIECE) / TOME > brand if nothing else > trinket / rings for free crests > unluck anything else

[rich pulsar]

This for raid and m+?

[jagged pier]

for chooseing gear from vault

ever

doesnt matter in what content

its not better than shield or wep

[rich pulsar]

Putting cata piece over bis trinket feels short sighted

[jagged pier]

its not over its /

meaning its a choice

[sudden grotto]

i would take bis trinket 1st

[jagged pier]

u can also just buy it later

best wep and shield are from raid so if u dont raid mythic u wont be able to buiy them anyway

[torpid dome]

you mean when they place the npc back to buy trinkets?

[jagged pier]

not bis

bis is from nexus king

[proper flax]

@jagged pier Thanks for the Help

[rich pulsar]

Couldn't you just craft shield/weap and take the trink

[jagged pier]

[burnt crane]

should you craft shield if you didn't get it in the vault and no hope for killing 2nd boss this week ?

[torpid dome]

#protection message

[burnt crane]

? sorry I don't understand it doesn't talk about what to craft ^^

[jagged pier]

i dont ever advicate to craft a shield

until like 3rd craft

because u are going to replace it eventually

always craft stuff you wont replace first

[acoustic grotto]

In this situation. Am i in the " trinket / rings for free crest" and take the trinket or the "unluck anything else" and take this belt ?

[torpid dome]

I think you have multiple schools of thought, loads of people say craft shield first, then replace only when you get myth track shield

the crests you spend on crafting shield go towards 5/6 myth track free upgrade anyways, only losing out on a spark

[jagged pier]

ppl think only in the vacum of one week, when patches are months long and they should have a longer term outlook

[vague mango]

good vault imo

[torpid dome]

yeah and in the longer term, you have plenty sparks to craft shield & weap first, then look at other permanent pieces

especially for the general population, who will not do myth raiding

[shut dust]

Try to sim, but with this low stat in haste and No Crit, i dont think its valuable

[jagged pier]

yes but lots are already doing 10s so its the same track

[acoustic grotto]

Yeah that what i was thinking
Maybe the trinket for upgrading my trinket (mud & shitty one) or slot gem 🙁

[torpid dome]

10s get you hero drops tho, only myth vault

[torn gulch]

i tanked 10's with 684 shield you don't need high level shield yet

[torpid dome]

and then you have 3 chances per week to get a myth shield, which is quite low odds

[shut dust]

Yes, i agree, slot gem for crafter or ring to save some gilded

[jagged pier]

i got one

the only time i didnt was DF and i carfted a shield on like the 4th craft

[torpid dome]

jsut do this one simple trick, just get the shield mythic slot lmao 😄

[torn gulch]

[torpid dome]

Only had 1 myth slot this week

[jagged pier]

and hoenstly it made 0 difference

[torpid dome]

and it was a bad trinket

[jagged pier]

and i was like just about to start progging raz at that point

[round pendant]

I got a myth shield on like week 9 last season

[torpid dome]

In the end there's multiple paths anyways

[torn gulch]

season 1 shield first week
season 2 shield second week
this season we ll see

[acoustic grotto]

already have 701 ring so won't take the ring, but trinket could save some crest
And yes socket on crafted seem to be a good option indeed

[round pendant]

last time I had good vaults was s1 df

[jagged pier]

u had a wep this week

thats a good vault

[torpid dome]

yep thats a great vault lmao

this was my meh vault

opted for the hero track helmet, to use a catalyst on it for my 4-set bonus

[blazing shuttle]

My fellow warriors.

I simmed both the shield, and belt. Both crafted at 720. the belt gives me far more DPS. However, for survivability's sake and the such, should I get a shield instead? I have a 701 shield 3/6 Hero. Priory's Shield.

[vocal owl]

hello! is it worth craft a 2hand if i wanna play prot and arms? for saving crest to upgrade 1hand and shield?

[quaint rune]

i think gear prot, use instant invites to farm arms stuff lol

[torn gulch]

arms?
isn't that species on the UN endangered list?

[vocal owl]

what is best to craft then? 🙂

[jagged pier]

what are u maining?

which spec

[quaint rune]

scroll up they had a big discussion on it

[round pendant]

yeah I get the odd good vault, but over the span of entire seasons I usually get "screwed"

not really complaining since it doesn't matter

[vocal owl]

i wanna be 50/50

[round pendant]

Quite lucky week 1 myth sword tho

pretty happy about that

[untold minnow]

wich one guys??

for raid tanking

[torpid dome]

shoulders imo

[untold minnow]

no trinket?

[torpid dome]

myth track tier set piece is big imo, sacbrood is decent, but drastically nerfed this season, so it's not bis anymore

basically you will never replace the shoulders

but you will replace sac brood as soon as you get heroic ire or tome in vault

[keen star]

I was also deciding between myth legs for next week's catalyst or myth pacemaker

because myth pacemaker might sim worse than arcanocrystal + tome

[halcyon crystal]

for crafting, its weapon and shield right

[jagged pier]

im taking legs everytime

[torpid dome]

imo shield first, then weap, then gear pieces, but opinions vary

[blazing shuttle]

Shield first it is.

[halcyon crystal]

ive to sparks

two

didnt craft anything yet

[torpid dome]

I spent first spark on shield

[gentle pier]

Myth Bis trinket no brainer? or replace champ legs at this point in the season?

[torpid dome]

second spark will go to weap

[blazing shuttle]

Crap.

Made wrists first for the embelish.

Woops.

[keen star]

if I loot another myth set piece next week I'm gonna be 2 weeks behind on catalysts :sadbear:

[torpid dome]

it's not a mistake, it's marginal difference

[blazing shuttle]

Well fuck.

Guess I'm doomed.

[torpid dome]

no brainer, tome tome tome

[vague mango]

vet brand is funny

[blazing shuttle]

But I'm making the shield now so.

I'll be fine.

[vague mango]

+10 Flood

running Vet brand + Hero tome

[blazing shuttle]

The fuck.

[vague mango]

this thing is crazy

[vocal owl]

what hero talent has the most daamge?

[vague mango]

4p thane

[torpid dome]

right now, MT is the way to go

[vague mango]

I'm just on col bc I'm on 2p

and it feels comfy with FBV

[rotund eagle]

What do I do if my vault looks like this :S

is the Codex still bugged?

[vocal owl]

is it bad to macro Ignore pain in to a spell? just at the start? and if i can what spell do i macro it in with?

[round pendant]

yeah it's bad

[civic moon]

wheres execute bro

[mellow bridge]

there's nothing buggy about codex, it's just bad

[cerulean tusk]

No idea, but I do remember it being secret op in SL. So might wait to see if anyone can confirm if it is still is, before you make your choice.

I still don't have the HC version, so can't tell you

[civic moon]

had to take this cuz only myth slot

[mellow bridge]

codex has always been and will always be extremely shit for prot

[civic moon]

bro why is this character super unlucky'

[rotund eagle]

Good call ill wait. The other trinket is trash as well so its that or socket /sad

[cerulean tusk]

No harm waiting a bit for sure

[jagged pier]

Its not bugged, its just terrible like it has always been

[cerulean tusk]

This be how it is at times, there is always next week

[blazing shuttle]

Love your optimism.

[civic moon]

i couldve gotten soleahs trinket if i did 2 more 10s yday

on myth track

[cerulean tusk]

100% what u missed

Shame on u

[civic moon]

couldnt skip the gym

[jagged pier]

No, it wasnt. The dr on it works after mitigation. It did literally less thab 1% dr for prot in SLs. Ppl used it because streamers used it and it showed one the meters

The trinket was fucking trrible

The strength from other trinkets did more damage than the proc too

[round pendant]

classic

[jagged pier]

It was good for bdk, and that was about it

[cerulean tusk]

I played BDK, and while I cant remember how it was broken it was

[jagged pier]

Because u didnt mit anything unless u parried

So it actually did something for u

[cerulean tusk]

Prob why I remember in my Grey matter it was broken, but ppl said it was not then

[opaque flume]

did the script for simming tome on raidbots get removed?

[viscid lantern]

which embelishments u craft? Double stat or Ascendance?

[undone verge]

I love codex of the first technique. Blizzards first ever mitigation "sim bait"

[raw parcel]

Noob question... does Thunder Blast count as Thunder Clap for thunderlord?

[mellow bridge]

you dont need it anymore

[cerulean tusk]

TB is for all purposes just a TC, yep yep 👍

[raw parcel]

Thanks!

[opaque flume]

you mean raidbots sims it properly without it?

[jagged pier]

yes

[mellow bridge]

yep

[opaque flume]

ty

[cerulean tusk]

Are you guys sure about that tho

[jagged pier]

yes

[cerulean tusk]

[raw parcel]

I took off the safety blanket and tried the execute talent build and it really does slap, holy shit that was a lotta damage. 😄

[round pendant]

tragedy

I crafted my shield with duskthread lining

truly and utterly disastrous

[cerulean tusk]

Better delete your char and try again with a new one

[torpid dome]

yep, this is the way

[cerulean tusk]

What is disturbing, there will be multiple degens out there, right now - who deleted warriors that got bad vaults and picked the one of many that got the right loot

[jagged pier]

how do ppl have the time

[woven torrent]

this is garbage right? just making sure

[jagged pier]

yes its terrible

[strong forum]

This basically makes you deal 7% less damage

[jagged pier]

[strong forum]

So if you need a handicap, use this

[woven torrent]

i thought it might randomly be bugged

and deal like a fuckton of damage

[night scroll]

But the health though, so delicious

[woven torrent]

wouldve been nice

[strong forum]

Nah

Not only did they rework it to be completely useless

[fiery spindle]

Do you guys craft wrist this week if you crafted shield last week?

[strong forum]

But even before that it had 300 reasons why it was hilarious

[strong forum]

That, or weapon if you don't have one

[gusty perch]

What's the best embellishment for a crafted sword? elemental focusing lens?

[kindred hearth]

Hey guys, i got a shield in my vault and have a hc onehander with a high probability that i will farm the first boss on Mythic starting next week. Is it a good idea to craft a twohander now? I will be playing a bit of dps warrior too

[torpid dome]

depends how much you wanna play dps as well

if it's occasional, I would first work on your permanent crafts for prot

but questions like this, are impossible for others to answer, as it's very dependent on what you want

[trim island]

the only tier piece in my vault was 1/8 veteran track from a random heroic dungeon or something I did 🤮

but I want that 4pc so bad

[kindred hearth]

Yes it kinda depends how i am looking at it, it saves a few crests but yeah

[tawny citrus]

What do we craft? I have 2 sparks

I have Champion weapon and Shield on 704 ilvl
Do I craft Shield or do I just craft wrists and belt?

I have 2p set currently

[torpid dome]

Shield > Weap > Wrist/Belt is what I'm going for

[main arrow]

what a vault !

head mythic or Trink ?

[trim island]

don't need tier hands?

[main arrow]

already 4 set

[torpid dome]

mythic head

the trinkets you received arent worth it

[proper flax]

in longterm we craft bracers and belt right?

[mellow bridge]

for sure myth head, yep

[mellow bridge]

ye

[proper flax]

ty

[main arrow]

yeah

i was thinking thanks 😄

ty guys now other 15 wars 😄

[coral hull]

should the second craft after shield be bracers or weapon?

[torpid dome]

I'm doing weapon

biggest upgrade unless you already have a myth track weap from GV

[main arrow]

fist boss will drop a myth wep

if u doing mythic raid

[small oar]

is radiant power ench useless? I dont see how 4420mainstat can compare to 7850 of a secondary

[jagged pier]

its better than the secondary ones

not as good as depth

[small oar]

its sims significantly less

[jagged pier]

[stuck coral]

Hello guys, this is my vault. Idk what pick (heroic parts for 4part or trinkets?) i have crafted weapon embellish 720

• tome and brand 704

[torpid dome]

I dont mythic raid

[torpid dome]

only permanent piece there would be weapon, jsut too bad that you already had one crafted. I still think weapon > temporary options in this case

[stuck coral]

I dont have 4p and my guild do 8/8hc

[spare pawn]

how do you remember to use shield block when you can

wa or just rotation

[jagged pier]

u just do

[spare pawn]

k

do you use shiedl charge over a sb

or keep the charge for something useful

[jagged pier]

u press sc on cd

[spare pawn]

k

[torpid dome]

unless there's a phase coming up in the next 20 seconds where you need big dmg, then I'd say hold

[dusty hazel]

does anyone have the chart/picture that shows rewards for different key lvl's in vault?

[dusty hazel]

Ty

[lime mantle]

Is the ring worth it or I should take the L of no myth track item and take the helmet (with a socket (I'd complete 4p when I get some HC pants)?
(I have collapsing and whispers at HC level)

[night imp]

any advice what I should get?:D is the myth trinket the best choice?

[rough egret]

whats your tier situation?

[night imp]

bad

[torpid dome]

does the tiered helmet get you closer to your 4set?

[night imp]

but the tinket is kinda bis no? the so leah

[rough egret]

its not

[torpid dome]

the trinket will be temporary usable

[night imp]

I would have 4 set yeah didnt raid this weak

[torpid dome]

until you get tome / ire

[pearl storm]

does it matter much which weapon tyype i craftt for prot?

[rough egret]

finish your set then or socket

[torpid dome]

weapon type doesnt matter

[rough egret]

no

[night imp]

thanks:) the trinket is that bad to not get I mean the so leah

[prisma echo]

Lads what im missing. On every guide tome is bis trin, but when i sim my myth tome it doesnt show it in numbers? Is it wrong parse or 4set affect it? Can anybody maybe help me what im missing? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/khA7EETK1c8cwoLXq8T83E

[rough egret]

its not bad, but there are better options 🙂

[torpid dome]

^

[mellow bridge]

you are simming AoE

tome is bis for st/prio damage

for pure unga bung aoe it's not bis

it being this little behind in aoe already, shows how good it is however

[cerulean kite]

Should I be trying to rush to max level or just take my time currently? I’m at level 36 and ignored campaign for a little by farming dungeons but I wasn’t sure if I should just level up normally or from dungeons

[mellow bridge]

whatever you have more fun with

[neon elk]

So do i go for mythic hands and hold them for week or so ( because set) or do i go mythic neck with good stats

[torpid tiger]

One question: what item should I craft the shield with? Every page I look at says something different.

[prisma echo]

thanks for great answer 🙂

[torpid dome]

what do you mean... statwise? or embellishments?

[bronze kite]

So, taking Hero head from vault to catalyst for 4-set or myth track wep with Crit and haste.
Can’t decide to chase that 4-set another week or not.

[torpid dome]

myth weap

100%

[mellow bridge]

for sure weapon.

[torpid dome]

What do we need to do to get the 4th spark fragment?

[mellow bridge]

weekly quest

[lunar flare]

You can go to the armless person in Dornogal and pick one of those and do it

[ocean iron]

would this be better than this

for m+

cant really tell

ofc the astral antenna sims a bit higher

[jagged pier]

brand is better

[mellow bridge]

if youre able to keep up the stacks

[torpid dome]

Ah perfect, ty

[ocean iron]

ok thanks

ill try that

[civic moon]

guys what do we craft this week

[neon elk]

I guess its not worth to do lfr for brand, or ? Is is that strong ?

[lunar flare]

Does recrafting a sword require two sparks?

[torpid dome]

It is that strong

[torpid dome]

1 spark for onehander

[lunar flare]

Big poggies, sword gaming for me

[tardy crane]

took bis neck from vault, crafted shield last week.
This week, is the play to craft weapon for big short term gains (craft waist and wrist on the next 2 full sparks, should have myth weapon and shield from raid by then, if lucky) and then max leftover crests into neck?

[torpid dome]

Yeah, craft weap, then spend crests on myth pieces

[hardy snow]

I've got 4p

[plain iron]

On Sims, https://www.wowhead.com/item=238390/soulbreakers-sigil is simming way higher then same level Improved Seaforium Pacemaker and Solesh Secret Technique. Is this trustable or the first trinket is simming weird?

[rancid thistle]

Hey guys is it worth to go for Ringing Ritual Mud for later as def option?

[blazing shuttle]

Mythic head tier piece.

STARES

[rancid thistle]

y got hero one 1/8 would be iLvL upgrade but don't know if the trinket is worth in the long term or if you can buy it later like S2 if needed

[blazing shuttle]

Is your hero one tier piece?

[rancid thistle]

y

got it from last vault haha

[blazing shuttle]

Same 🤝

[autumn pawn]

How much of a dps increase is weapons on prot vs a melee dps class? Is it significant or mostly stat stick?

got this bad boy laying there

[neon elk]

Wep is huge and thats and easy pick

Nice ring there but wep still far better

[autumn pawn]

I mean my vault is too good for my own health, great wep, bis ring or hero tier piece for 4 set :D. But i am going for the long run and will not get tempted by set as i am mostly a m+ player

thanks

[round pendant]

myth shield > myth weapon > everything else

[grim compass]

guys. sanctified steps or the reshi boots. my gut is craft as... damage over shield and 720 ilvl 🤔

[halcyon crystal]

for crafting is it crit haste or versa haste (i only play m+)

[scenic pebble]

which one would you pick, is tome of light big ? nearly nobody of the pros is playing it

[grim compass]

from memory its ST bis

[torpid dome]

Tome is BIS trinket yeah

I don't always look at trinket choices from pro's, since they're almost always situational specific to a certain playstyle or teamcomp

[glass wraith]

I sent first gilded for 720 weapon. Thinking about crafting 720 bracers/belt with embellishment today. Thoughts?

[torpid dome]

already have myth track shield?

[prime sphinx]

they dont have time to farm priorys nobody need loot from that

[glass wraith]

No myth track shield but 3rd boss drops it

[torpid dome]

plus that, yes

[torpid dome]

then postpone your craft until after you kill loom'ithar I guess

[glass wraith]

Yeah exactæy

Exactly

[torpid dome]

if no shield from loom

I would craft shield

[glass wraith]

But ele probably get prio over me on shield

[torpid dome]

why tho

[glass wraith]

Tank life funnel DPS’ers

[torpid dome]

yeah but on something like a shield... I'd hope guild prio is tank > dps with shield off-hands

as tank gains much more benefit from it

[lunar flare]

I mean by this logic, all trinkets are situational

[late sage]

quick question, at what point are people stopping to stack haste? im at 35% now without trying

un buffed

[torpid dome]

21k haste unbuffed seems to be breakpoint

[lunar flare]

I read 21k as well

[scenic pebble]

so what would you pick from above vault `?

[lunar flare]

Anything beyond that and you're getting pretty bad diminishing returns anyway

[late sage]

i thought so, but then its deminishing after 30% right?

[lunar flare]

I run mostly M+ so for me the trinket is a no brainer

[lunar flare]

Starts at 30% I think yeah

Give or take

[scenic pebble]

means you would pick it ?

[torpid dome]

depends on the exact stat distribution on what % that changes

[lunar flare]

I would personally pick tome yes

It's a very good trinket, and others have said its bis

[late sage]

id take the trinket too xD ... i mean i did take that trinket

[late sage]

cheers

[lunar flare]

Look at all the protbros helping each other out

Paladin discord should take some notes

[torpid dome]

is the discord still shut down? lmao

[halcyon crystal]

i crafted shield and sword and got myth track pants

shoud i send my remaining crst for my pants ?

[torpid dome]

yep

[lunar flare]

Ye

You have the big boy crafts, now you can spend

[late sage]

also i got a hero shield from some m+ and have the weapon crafted, would it still be worth crafting the sheild? or go for somthing els?

[ashen kestrel]

not advice, just have to appreicate that devious mog

[lunar flare]

That transmog lol

What in gods name

Is that

It's beautiful

[ashen kestrel]

https://tenor.com/bnLBW.gif

[lunar flare]

For me personally I'd craft the shield anyway. But depends on the content you're doing

How easy it is to get gear in other slots at myth etc

[late sage]

haha im glad the mog is getting the attention it deserves xD

im mostly doing m+ and may do some mythic raid in the future but no major plans to

[lunar flare]

I think a myth shield drop in vault is quite a small chance right?

Are there even any shields

[late sage]

yeah i think its only one or two sheilds

[ashen kestrel]

I think so, theres maybe 2 from dungeons? EDA has one

[grim compass]

After shield craft. Sanctified boots craft? Still got the 675 boots atm

[lunar flare]

My worry would be crafting bracers and then them dropping in vault next week

As an example

But others here may have better advice

Shield seemers safer to me imo

[late sage]

thats my worry about crafting anything xD

yeah that might be a better choice

[lunar flare]

I'm not doing mythic anytime soon so for me a shield craft first was the best choice

I think that's true for most people as well

[late sage]

ill go for that then i think

[lunar flare]

Disclaimer I accept no legal responsibility if a myth shield appears in your vault next week

[ashen kestrel]

Yeah 720 shield is your best defensive option and honestly those extra 3 ilvls from mythic only start to matter if youre pushing the top .1% of M+

[late sage]

i think ill wait till next week to craft to be safe xD

[round pendant]

sanctified steps are bad

[torpid dome]

just craft it, if you wait for next week you can also wait 1 more week extra for another spark

you get a new craft every 2 weeks

[lunar flare]

Dazzler be rite

[neon elk]

Dr starts after 20k , its based on rating not on % , and its 10% until 30k , 10% DR is nothing, but its not effective to go past 21-22k haste which is breakpoint for comfy SB uptime with ITF

[ashen kestrel]

dang it, no myth tier on any tanks today

not a bad vault though, weapon on druid and pacemaker on the warrior, neck on dh

[lunar flare]

Chippy your profile pic is upsetting

[lunar flare]

Mfw when I got myth tier shoulders in my vault

[jagged pier]

not getting into the USA with that

[dusty hazel]

I might be stupid. But what's the Tome of Light do? It's cryptic af in it's description, sifting through passages?

[ashen kestrel]

me when i open 3 vaults and get no myth track tier

[jagged pier]

[dusty hazel]

ty

[lunar flare]

I'm sorry brother, I bless your vault for next week

[lunar flare]

I had this exact problem yesterday and I hate the trinket lol

The tooltip doesn't do a very good job explaining it

[sharp merlin]

Basically sword = crit and crit = 👍🏻

The defensive side of the trinket is useless, get a WA which shows which side you’re on

[late sage]

Cheers for info!

And fine I'll just craft the shield!

[daring dust]

what should be my 2nd craft?

[idle copper]

Stupid question: The tier set is pure DPS? or does it have synergy with our defences somehow?

[frank surge]

which non-set piece do we want to run optimally? haste-crit chest right?

[torpid dome]

weap imo

[ashen kestrel]

nice profile pic

[frank surge]

KEKW

[rough egret]

Yes

[prisma vortex]

If i could spam farm for trinket which trinket do you want as secondary for damage? got brand ire atm do i just farm seaforium until i get antenna?

[lunar flare]

There is too much JD Vance in this channel

The amount has doubled in the space of 30 minutes

[torpid dome]

farm priory for tome

[rough egret]

You want Brant and Tome

[prisma vortex]

aiit

tome and brand until i get antenna? or tome over antenna

honestly can i just sim all trinkets on raidbots or do i have too add them 1 by 1? xd