protection

[neon elk]

Dude calls myth shield meh, smh

[frosty mango]

Taking shield means you can craft two pieces (weapon and something else)

Secondaries are irrelevant

[timid crater]

Okay. Sounds good.

[mint shadow]

is there a reason the guides dont really recommend 1h craft? seems like it's usually shield, bracers, weak pieces. Just the expectation that you'll get a 1h drop due to less loot competition?

or for embellishment?

[jagged pier]

well u will replace 1h and a shield with myth pieces

where u wont with other crafted pieces most likely

but u can do what u want

[mint shadow]

yeah it makes sense

[jagged pier]

but i dont craft really till week 3

see what im missing etc

[vocal pecan]

Hey. What would be a good 2nd craftf for warrior protection if I already craft the wrist as the first one?. My vault was trash tbh. I got a myt neck of it, I didn't receive any weapon from the vault

Do you think that I should craft a weapon with embelishment and remove the 681 feet? or what do you think could be the best option?

[proud schooner]

What do you guys use to track violent outburst

[mighty valley]

shield w/ thread would be good

if you're not likely to get a myth shield from raid

[vocal pecan]

If it drops pbly I'll get the shield from soul hunters

[errant oyster]

Somebody got a weak aura to track DR from thunder blast? Or does updated luxthos track that

[real fossil]

is it even worth tracking something like that when you just spam thunderblast

[bleak breach]

Shield or just recraft your boots

[dry mantle]

Alright lads, there's no way I don't go weapon here right?

[jagged pier]

wep

shield > wep > tier

i guess tbh i would snag a tome if i got one in vault tbh

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto scuse me sir tell your dad john blizzard to give me a re roll button this is horseshit!

[jagged pier]

bis ring

myth tier piece

looks good to me

[dusky canopy]

nah im playing fury

have to sit on shoulders or break 4pc

🙂

games good

[jagged pier]

then go complain in fury

[dry mantle]

^

[dusky canopy]

im complaining to my friend nim 🙂

[jagged pier]

nim has friends???

[neon elk]

Is wep realy above tier ?

[jagged pier]

u far more likely to get tier pieces than a wep

and as a wep increases all the damage u do

[solid sun]

What about sick trinkets

[jagged pier]

of course it is

[jagged pier]

read the second line i put

[jagged pier]

the increase of normal to myth tier is small
the increase of normal wep to myth wep is big

on a piece by piece basis

[solid sun]

Is tome the only one though

I took a pacemaker but you might not be a pacemaker believer

[neon elk]

I guess it make sense

[jagged pier]

why would i take pacemaker

didnt even get it in myth last seaosn

[buoyant olive]

Does tome sit higher above shield at 707 level if they are replacing equal pieces?

[jagged pier]

ire if far better

and tome is better

those are the trinkets i want

[heavy sparrow]

This guy

[solid sun]

But that’s not the question

[mental scarab]

Obsidian blast on the first boss in dawnbreaker

is tht grp dmg?

[solid sun]

It isn’t pace in lieu of tome or ire. And who can say if you’d get either soon since it’s all rng

[heavy sparrow]

Might go with a signet ngl

[neon elk]

Ill take wrists , u aint gona swap them for like whole season

[plush tendon]

yea, those are ideal wrists

slot=done

perfect for a socket also

[neon elk]

Might have issues for embelishments later tho

[plush tendon]

eh, you just have a crafted belt or something

[neon elk]

Like i guess belt and what ? Wrists are kinda perfect slot for that

[plush tendon]

or ring

who knows

[ruby musk]

Belt and chest maybe

[jagged pier]

u craft on bracers tho

u take ring or trinket for free crests later

[neon elk]

Yea thats what i said like sentence later when i hit me xd

[jagged pier]

at 723 its only a .4% upgrade for me

[heavy sparrow]

That too

[jagged pier]

so if it was my only option i would take it from free crests

[plush tendon]

Jakey brought up great points though

[jagged pier]

other wise i would take literally anything else

[plush tendon]

or take tier

if you still dont have 4pc

[jagged pier]

Jakey with good points

[plush tendon]

or socket for later

[tranquil thunder]

Heyo people , new to prot war but exp on vdh, we macro shield block with any or just use on cd?

[heavy sparrow]

I was thinking this so I could jump into dumping gilded crests into mythic trinkets early on for some playing around later

[plush tendon]

press it on its own

but with current gear, you should have close to or 100% uptime on SB

[tranquil thunder]

So spam anytime i have the cd right?

[jagged pier]

literally your only options, id sim see if ither is an upgrade anyway and choose that one or take the hero tier because honestly thats not a bad shout if u dont have 4pc

[plush tendon]

its not a spamable button

you press it when activley tanking and do not have SB up

and dont hold onto two charges

[jagged pier]

nah u dont spam it anymore we actually lost uptime this season, so u need to manage it a bit

[tranquil thunder]

Thank u sir, also for a single target rotation what should i do?

[jagged pier]

not much

but a bit

[heavy sparrow]

True say. I'm still working with S2 tier. I have 2 catalysts banked till I opened vault though

[jagged pier]

take the hero piece the dps gain is insane if u get to 4pc

[small garden]

so before i make a mistake, is dps bran with prot warrior good?

[jagged pier]

ye

[small garden]

aight bet

[plush tendon]

always go dps bran

other brans are worthless

[small garden]

was fun doing 5 masks horrific visions

and then learn i cant equip the 1h i bought alongside the shield, after i spent 500 valors to upgrade it

[plush tendon]

Visions are fun once in a while

[vocal flame]

Visions are fun just once

[plush tendon]

I did my two 8 masks before the patch

but you can still buy the mount

[small garden]

might just do to get warbound champion gear

for alts

ok bran does great dps.

[rough egret]

Hatarang goes brrr

[jagged pier]

it also puts cool hats on things

[plush tendon]

ok, who here is still waiting for the Midnight annoucement

[toxic pewter]

Me

[bleak parcel]

is it on some game show stream or something

or going to be

[plush tendon]

its supposed to be

[toxic pewter]

Gamescom stream on YouTube

[bleak parcel]

ic

[toxic pewter]

It’s live right now

[plush tendon]

got pumped for Dawn of War 4

[bleak parcel]

yeah i saw dow4

[sharp gale]

I am watching

[bleak parcel]

hopefully its better than 3

[toxic pewter]

Ngl it’s been live almost two hours so wow should be soon in my opinion

[bleak parcel]

new devs

[toxic pewter]

NOW

TUNE IN NOW

[sharp gale]

I was afraid to have the cinematic mid pull

[toxic pewter]

It’s here

[tribal wharf]

BOYS

its time

[toxic pewter]

WATCH NOW

[tribal wharf]

cinematic now

[lofty warren]

New class or dh 3rd spec announced?

[tribal wharf]

okay

that wasnt a total L

im happy with the cinematic

[prime sphinx]

meh

[small garden]

is the shrieking quarts the new way to get the delver map bounty and get hero gear?

[lofty warren]

On a scale of dranflight to wod, how good was cinematic?

[toxic pewter]

New dh spec confirmed

[small garden]

wod level goosebumps

[toxic pewter]

Devourer dh

[tribal wharf]

it was definitely better than some of the others

[rough egret]

Paladin expansion

[lofty warren]

Is it really a healer

[tribal wharf]

i still think shadowlands was best cinematic

[rough egret]

It was nice video graphics etc

[cedar egret]

wowhead says its mid ranged dps

[lofty warren]

What the fork is a mid ranged dps

[cedar egret]

its a dps with less range than hunter but more than warrior I guess

[tribal wharf]

max range dps is hunter and mage

[lofty warren]

Balance druid

[warm plinth]

Devoker is mid range

[tribal wharf]

mid range is like, i dunno, probably warlock

shaman

[warm plinth]

30yd range compared to normal 40yd range

What

They're talking about actual range yogi. Not performance

[lofty warren]

Does new dh have more range than evoker

[wooden spindle]

wait am i crazy isn't the actual panel on thursday?

[warm plinth]

Don't think they specified but devoker was also called mid range on its release so stands to reason it'd be the same

[hardy snow]

Did Wowhead forgot about NDA with these news or I missed something on the gamescom livestream?

[jagged pier]

they released a trailer on yt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Nf00VN0WM

so they arent breaking anything

[neon elk]

So the new race is just elfs with fancy name huh

[hardy snow]

thanks, was still watching gamescom

[lofty warren]

Race model is just a female troll model lazy bastardos

[warm plinth]

More elves, great

/s

[lusty grotto]

[lusty grotto]

[undone beacon]

At least I was rewarded on the warr

Priory Count: vault

[small steeple]

only 4?

[lusty grotto]

yeah no reason farm just one dungeon

maybe this week, who knows

[rough egret]

Free tmogs, best expansion ever

[lofty warren]

Best dungeon to spam for 1h weapon?

[rough egret]

EDA

dawnbreak too

[lofty warren]

What's eda

[rough egret]

Eco Dome Alani

[lusty grotto]

gz gz

[toxic pewter]

Ngl midnight very underwhelming not sure what I was expecting but I dunno

Alliance get two dh races horde still one

That messed up

[round pendant]

whelmed

[lofty warren]

Finally they can be dwarf?!

[solid sun]

I liked the cinematic. Most of what's coming out seems agreeable

[toxic pewter]

Night and void elf

[lofty warren]

Get

Out ain't nobody wants void elf

[toxic pewter]

I mean a lot may with the new spec I guess

I guess I still miss the old days where expansions had new cool big system. I know majority hated that but still miss it myself

Makes everything feel like it’s missing something

[lofty warren]

If essences and corruptions were warbound ppl would like it

[tribal wharf]

my life as of late, just making videos

[solid sun]

do you not count housing as a new, cool, big system?

[jagged pier]

i do

[toxic pewter]

That’s another thing that I was worried about is they would make housing the key system

I and many don’t really care for housing personally

[jagged pier]

right but what system do u want

u have m+ which is what u like doing

[toxic pewter]

Yeah I’m in the minority where I miss systems even from the past that everyone hated

[lofty warren]

Housing imo not useful and big time sink but I get lots of ppl want it for some reason idk

[jagged pier]

a majority of ppl are gunna do housing, there being housing takes nothing away from m+ or raid its still going to be there

its pointless them making another pve systme no one is gunna touch because m+ and raid is a thing

do u delve?

no

[solid sun]

What do you mean by system, though? Like the legion weapons?

[jagged pier]

only casuals delve mostly

its not worth blizzards time making another one

[toxic pewter]

Yah true

[lofty warren]

I dwelved week 1 and 2 there's some starter gear there

[jagged pier]

that less than half the ppl will want to touch

[round pendant]

I mean delve is literally designed for casuals so that's not surprising

[jagged pier]

i like delves

they are chill

[torn gulch]

housing will be the biggest addition to the game since m+
mark my words

[toxic pewter]

Just feels all so damn formulaic every expansion but I guess that’s what the people want

Zero risk in anything

[torn gulch]

for the simple reason that casuals dwarf competitive players in numbers

[rough egret]

Quelthalas and zullaman

[solid sun]

What does that mean

"Zero risk"

What risk are you wanting taken

Why does there need to be a risk

[toxic pewter]

lol

[lofty warren]

They need to add warbound corruptions and essences

[tribal wharf]

Seems fine to me

[round pendant]

I think apb's problem is more that it's just same same

[jagged pier]

your saying this yet u havent given any thing for bliz to change or make, your just complaining for the sake of complaining the parts of the game u like are still there and going and getting attention

[tribal wharf]

supposedly they are finally fixing blood elf city

[solid sun]

If the void wins we all die, apb

is that not risk enough

[round pendant]

Not having a suggestion of what to do instead doesn't mean he's just complaining for the sake of it

[toxic pewter]

Hmmm I guess I just have too high of a standard

[round pendant]

nah it's alright to be whelmed

[lofty warren]

They should make a "make your own dungeon" workshop and the most voted one gets included in a m+ season. Overwatch has the workshop so something like that

[jagged pier]

well hes very admant on it, you would expect he would have an idea of what he would want/expect to his standard

[tribal wharf]

im still a bit mad and shocked we got housing and no lumibering skill lol

[round pendant]

Midnight was supposed to be yuge right? and we get.. 4 zones and housing holy

[jagged pier]

just going oh i expected better, but i dont know what that is, is just dumb and cutting your noise off dispite your face

[lofty warren]

Also dwarfs should be allowed to be dh

Also make aug a tank spec and make buff dragon race

[tribal wharf]

dark iron dh when

[lofty warren]

Also delete target cap

[toxic pewter]

Cinematic had potential for stakes. Really needed to see a main character get murdered

[lofty warren]

Also revert change that makes casters spam casts

[toxic pewter]

But no everyone would freak out

[round pendant]

I'd personally want:
world reboot (à la cata but I know that's unpopular)
M+ rework or endgame non-timed dungeons (like mythic raid difficult but for 5 mans)
Professions rework, make gathering and crafting an alternative endgame rather than the slop it is now

Housing is nice for the people who care but not expansion defining imo

but that's just cause idc about it

[lofty warren]

Also make m+ specific gear and track so ppl aren't forced to do raid to get gear for m+

[torn gulch]

you dont need to raid to play m+ all the way to title range

that's such a manufactured problem

[rough egret]

Did you actually expect that they will reveal everything tonight? It was just cinematic

[lofty warren]

Yea but if you don't raid ur always behind those that do raid and vice versa

You know how pvp gets it's own set of gearing? Do that for m×+

[solid sun]

We just recently got a prof rework and m+ also just got redone

There's absolutely zero shot that housing is not expansion defining. It has been begged for, for years

It's 1000% huge

[waxen cradle]

If no 4 set from last season from skipping last season is MThane still better with 2 set ?

[lofty warren]

How did it get redone if all the best gear is still locked behind boring ass raid

[main bone]

I have a chance to get a hero tier chest, Heroic shield or a Ara-Kara Sac hero from my vault. little stunned on which one i should grab. Any suggestions. I only have 1 other tier piece right now

[mortal cypress]

make M+ cosmetic rewards only like mounts and stuff

[neon elk]

I just feel like housing gona end up similar to phasing , something new thats totaly meh

[jagged pier]

your talking to ppl that only like to 5 man tho, its not appealing to them

[solid sun]

ig

[jagged pier]

from all the reports its not meh at all

[torn gulch]

it's insane to me that people don't understand that housing is the biggest feature in wow since m+ but that just shows how disconnected the competitive players are from the rest of the community

[solid sun]

Invite 4 friends to your house

[lofty warren]

Not gonna lie housing is just a feature for casuals imo

[jagged pier]

they have a cap of 100s of players from what ive heard not 4

[neon elk]

Tbf i havent realy followed that topic at all so im kinda excited but also prepared to be dissapointed

[rough egret]

It might be endgame for someone 🙂

[little depot]

Until they add house buffs to your warband and have to engage with it

[rough egret]

Ppl play this game for many reasons

[solid sun]

I was being sarcastic about the people I'm talking to only liking 5 man content

[round pendant]

Those aren't reworks, they're tweaks

Nothing got reworked, the gameplay loops are fundamentally the same

[torn gulch]

from what we've seen until now it's significantly better than ff14 housing and it's shaping to be one of the best housing systems in m+ if not the best

[jagged pier]

they arent doing that. theyve had ideas given too them like let ppl herb in the garden etc, which they shot down because of garrisons form what i know

[solid sun]

The professions system was literally entirely redone

[round pendant]

no, it wasn't

[solid sun]

huh

[jagged pier]

u can as usual ppl engage with the system as much as u like or dont want too at all

[rough egret]

Was in df

[solid sun]

The professions system is entirely different as of DF

[lofty warren]

Housing = garrisons that will be deleted in 13.0 that's my guesstimate

[jagged pier]

just like the 1 button rotation, its not going to effect your game at all

[round pendant]

adding crafting orders and some skill trees isn't a rework of the design of the whole system

[torn gulch]

delusional have you ever seen the system?

[round pendant]

it still fundamentally works the same as it has since vanilla

[solid sun]

That's wild

Yeah it has skill points

[jagged pier]

execpt is completely different to garrisons, because u can place what u want where u want, and its not tied to power at all

[solid sun]

But you have specific equipment that you put on, the work orders significantly changes it, talent systems for it

[little depot]

1 button rotation affected my gameplay... I had to stop dps in raid to not pull off cotank

[torn gulch]

i forgot how pepega pepega actually is

:))))

[lofty warren]

If it's not tied to power then what's the point?

[jagged pier]

he wants profs from other games where they are more like minigames

[solid sun]

It's almost unrecognizable from vanilla crafting

[jagged pier]

fun

[neon elk]

Havent played ff so .. but does it somehow impact gameplay also ? Or is there gold to be made in like garison or something ? Guess i should google a bit about it xd

[jagged pier]

its a videa game you are allowed to have fun

[rough egret]

Imagine, game for fun 🙂

[torn gulch]

this is a prime example of someone completely disconnected from the majority of the community

[lofty warren]

Having a house is fun? I have a real house and it's just a bunch of maintanence

[torn gulch]

probably from the housing items made with old school professions

[lofty warren]

Mow the lawn, do repairs, fix the toilet, pay someone to fix the ac. Super fun

[torn gulch]

and no competitive gameplay impact

[lofty warren]

Pay mortgage

[rough egret]

You already do

12€/month

[round pendant]

I don't want power from housing but convenience (like osrs housing) would be nice

ig osrs housing gives a bit of power tbf with regen pools

but ya get my point, it's mainly just major qol

[torn gulch]

housing should not have any power attached to it
convenience yes as long as it is not gamebreaking

[jagged pier]

thats a tight line

garrisons were too convenient

[lofty warren]

Everyone is just going to be phased in their own little house?

[jagged pier]

way too convenient

[torn gulch]

it's a social feature and an rp feature

[rough egret]

We know shit about housing yet..and we doing closures?

[jagged pier]

nope

[gleaming canyon]

is weapon or shield better in vault? got myth one hander and myth shield

[torn gulch]

you'll have neighbourhoods

[rough egret]

Lucker 😄 shield > weap

[lofty warren]

Can you buy multiple properties and then charge ppl rent and then evict them? Now that sounds fun

[torn gulch]

communities with like 50 houses

[lofty warren]

You were paying 1500 gold a month? Syke now it is 150k gold a month

[gleaming canyon]

do secondaries matter? its crit/haste wep or crit/mastery shield

[jagged pier]

not on shield

or wep

ilvl matters far more

[gleaming canyon]

gotcha

[rough egret]

Arms rework confirmed 😄

[sacred dagger]

I crafted a shield first spark, I don't push high content or anything just 10s for now really. Fair to just craft a weapon this week? Or is there better tech

[lusty grotto]

sure

weapon is big value, so go for it

[sacred dagger]

word, figured as much. Appreciate it 😄

[gleaming canyon]

does dungeon slice work well for prot warrior sims? trying to figure out my best trinket for m+

[lusty grotto]

no

5 target 1.5 min sims

or 1 min

[lofty warren]

Shield is better then weapon to craft isn't it?

[gleaming canyon]

ty

[lusty grotto]

yes, they already crafted shield

so weapon is the next best thing

[plush tendon]

shield>wep

[jagged pier]

its ire from raid

[round pendant]

is this jakey

[jagged pier]

nope

[mint shadow]

Wow 4pc damage is insane

[mighty valley]

you could go my route and see your house burn down

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[undone beacon]

Is the change to the count for the streets mini boss before last boss in MDT?

[solid sun]

You don't skip him?

also idk

[thin finch]

pls help me choose?

[lusty grotto]

raidbots.com

[neon elk]

Ngl thats kinda sad vault

[lusty grotto]

i havent posted mine

its even sadder

[mellow bridge]

myth hands aint bad

[mighty valley]

i'd prob just take tier

even if it's a temp grab

[lofty warren]

Have any myrhix items in ur vault,

[neon elk]

Show show , im expecting mine to be quite a shiet knowing my luck

[jagged pier]

Myth hands

[minor lark]

Damn, can skip PSF now

Anyways happy vault day

[jagged pier]

Oof not even myth

[minor lark]

I barely had time to run this week :/

I'll take it tbh

[jagged pier]

If u dont have tier and u got tier piece in there take that instead tbh

Dps gain is bigger and trinket farmable

[minor lark]

The rest was just garbage, sadly

[sonic crag]

so if we crafted a shield last week, how do we determine what to craft this week?

[neon elk]

Wepon if u dont mythic raid or dont have it in vault

[sonic crag]

ty

[rustic sequoia]

very stronk

[round pendant]

kicks

I give up

only 21 of mine are affix orbs

[shrewd grove]

Thats what you get for bringing ret pally

Is that a boomie or feral

[round pendant]

boomie

[celest moon]

Got crafted shield last week, should I take the shield anyways?

[shrewd grove]

Well, thats a shit comp for kicks on top of no one knowing where their keybind is.

[jagged gust]

4p and a mythic weapon, blessed day... Had to turn down a mythic pacemaker for it tho 🙁

[main bone]

when should we break tier 2 or 4?

[round pendant]

yeah but every single time it was an issue there was 2+ kicks up

[fleet flicker]

found the bis tank ring

[shrewd grove]

4

[lusty grotto]

nah when sims say to

[main bone]

thank ya!

oh lol

[shrewd grove]

Listen to this man. He's wiser than I

[lusty grotto]

the only thing you need to know about breaking it

is that you need to have 20k min haste for ITF

otherwise you go heavy rep

cause s2 4pc is big on SB uptime due to SC resets

however, sim

if raidbots suggests going 2pc 2pc, then do what i said above

[main bone]

new to tanking I didn't think you could sim as a tank. Shows "unsupported style" or something another

[lusty grotto]

no, we sim

[hot gazelle]

should I take a 1h weapon or an armor piece from the vault, both a substantial ilvl upgrade

[main bone]

thank ya!

[lusty grotto]

the only thing you dont sim as a tank are defensive upgrades like shield (should be ilvl > all) and defensive trinkets (there's only 2-3 this season anyway)

anything the sim suggests is automatically a survivability increase due to the nature of any tank's secondaries

that raidbots warning is strictly for defensive throughput, thats it

[fleet flicker]

are either of them myth?

[main bone]

ohhhhh i see

[hot gazelle]

no, 694

[lusty grotto]

sim then

[burnt drift]

Could I get some feedback on this sim? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jPYsBj9xBAG3TR9dxctmGP

[rustic sequoia]

its a nice looking number

[desert hinge]

Do y'all macro thunderblast onto other skills to make sure procs don't get skipped by accident from the 4pc or just freestyle that shit?

[lusty grotto]

no

and you shouldnt do that

[rustic sequoia]

tho this doesnt work in s3 right? why sim it

[desert hinge]

Ok boss ty

[jagged gust]

I still put shadowlands gathering on my gloves

[warm plinth]

Because if your old helm has it and you don't select it, it can give fucky results

[jagged gust]

more words = more dps

[desert hinge]

Even if we can't read?

[jagged gust]

Reading is for mages, let them figure out why we're doing so much damage

[lament osprey]

Who had the warriors are dumb clip?

From Max

[red tree]

I don’t trust wizards

[nova pelican]

Anyone know how much haste we need to keep permant shield block?

[crude spoke]

soo is 20K haste a cap thing? or are we still just maxing haste?

[lusty grotto]

none with heavy repercussions

[lusty grotto]

its not a haste cap

its the point where youre allowed to swap heavy rep with ITF

[crude spoke]

ah fair enough thanks!

[lusty grotto]

it means that you need 20k minimum haste rating to effectively maintain SB with Into The Fray

if you dont have that, you just swap it with Heavy Repercussions

the number is lower with s2 4pc, due to the SC cdr (SC applies SB)

but we're phasing that one out anyway

[crude spoke]

Thanks for clarifying! good to keep in mind, but im at 21.5K so good on that

just need the tier then

[lusty grotto]

you want around 25k for comfy levels

[fluid linden]

Ya tank gamers. The homie wants me to tank some raid. I am mucho Bunga smooth brain. Any weak aura to tell me when to taunt?

[viscid delta]

what crafts are people going for?

[hollow hill]

Is Reactive Webbed Escutcheon shield from delve any good?

[warm plinth]

Shield>Weapon>Embellishments or low slots

[warm plinth]

no

[hollow hill]

sadge

[warm plinth]

I mean if it's the highest thing you got, then it is what it is. Ilevel matters more than anything else for a shield.

[hollow hill]

I've got 2 other shields in the vault at hero track, so i'll take the best of those. Just thought the effect might have some niche use

[maiden grove]

Any suggestions on vault choice?

And yes already have 4 pc

[toxic pewter]

Wait so 4 out of 5 need to vote yes?

[round pendant]

why are lust classes all kinda shit this season lmao

the best one for m+ is devoker

and it's so basic and boring

[solid sun]

Ele sham and arcane mage both pump

[shrewd grove]

Arcane mage does crazy damage right now

Strong funnel too

[solid sun]

See, yam

Storm agrees

Find you an arcane mage to show you the path of enlightenment

[warm plinth]

OH NO

GUYS HELP

GET IT AWAY

[ruby musk]

I guess just myth shoulders and wait

[lusty grotto]

yeah idk im just saying that its in

[warm plinth]

Sadly my only other myth slot is wrists where my embellish will go so I take hero tier piece instead. ezpz

[lusty grotto]

idk how it works it just showed up out of the blue

[frosty mango]

spoiler alert im the healer (monk)

I feel you

wait that was a reply to @round pendant

[frosty mango]

thats the 13 eco dome I just did

its kinda out of control

[round cliff]

execute takes prio over shield slam in aoe?

that dont feel right at all

[frosty mango]

yes and no, youre gonna run out of rage and shield slam anyway

[shrewd grove]

Execute hits 3 targets

[round cliff]

so wouldnt 3 target execute be even more prio

not bottom prio

[shrewd grove]

That is wild lmao

[frosty mango]

so yes you execute for more damage but then youre gonna be shield slamming very quickly bc execute has no cooldown and is eating your rage

[zenith aurora]

So for ITF vs HR - if under 20k haste. I'm using the wowhead M+ weekly key build, I jus swap that one talent?

[warm plinth]

Yes, the only talent that changes is that node

[shrewd grove]

Not if you don't have rage for it. Better to keep SS on CD

[round cliff]

doesnt that apply to aoe too tho?

[shrewd grove]

Gotta generate the rage to use it

[zenith aurora]

ty

[solid sun]

tbh I'm unsure why the last line says 3 or fewer. Shouldn't it be 1-2 because Execute hits up to 3 targets?

Maybe I accidentally just revealed that I'm an idiot.

[coarse kernel]

Do I take a gem from this?

[warm plinth]

You already have myth tier chest?

Or 4pc at all

[coarse kernel]

Have 4-set

[frosty mango]

do you have myth chest?

[lusty grotto]

do you have a myth chest?

[coarse kernel]

no

[lusty grotto]

then

[frosty mango]

then you take that

[warm plinth]

Then take that biotch

[lusty grotto]

why would you consider a socket

[coarse kernel]

all that mastery?

[frosty mango]

HA I BEAT NIM

[warm plinth]

IT'S TIME

[lusty grotto]

mastery is a good stat

it doesnt matter if its the lowest prio, all stats are good

[warm plinth]

It has returned.

[sharp gale]

And myth has 13 more ilvl than maxed hero

[frosty mango]

i changed my name just for you

[lusty grotto]

youre gaining armor, stamina, strength with it

[coarse kernel]

I have a Hero Breastplate of Otherworldly Influence with Avoidance

[lusty grotto]

who cares

its hero track

ilvl > all

[proud schooner]

is there a way to grind valorstones still

[mighty valley]

mastery is not a bad stat is BACK

[warm plinth]

[lament osprey]

Make ilvl go up

[mighty valley]

seeing people getting myth tier in vaults and being like "so i guess i throw all this in the TRASH" is cruel to me specifically

[jagged gust]

Me tanking with mastery cloak half the time because I forgot about it from playing as fury

[coarse kernel]

Welp, goodbye 2k Haste I guess

[lusty grotto]

easily recoverable

[coarse kernel]

so with that, I assume I craft shield now

[lusty grotto]

did you not craft it last week?

but yeah you should if you dont have a myth track

and then weapon

[coarse kernel]

nah, was waiting on vault

[lyric loom]

sick 704 pacemaker from vault

only hero track tho

[round pendant]

that's nowhere near as bad lmao

[sharp gale]

Th worst thing I witnessed : someone with all of the BiS list, in heroic

He would not understand, so I gave up,

[ebon scaffold]

19k haste need a boost? Running 4pc execute build.

[wind whale]

Hi. New prot warrior here. Do I need taunt on my bars? Also, how useful is heroic throw?

for M+

[lofty warren]

this gotta be bait

[wind whale]

its not but i was cringing as i typed that

[plain spear]

I highly recommend having hthrow

For ranged tagging

[swift hare]

if i crafted 720 weapon with ascension, should i just craft shield 720 with lining? I have myth bracers, Boots who empowered cloak and belt from pass season (Also hero track shield+hands no tier)

[plain spear]

And if you dont have taunt on a very easy to use hockey, you are trolling yourself

You can hide the bars but yes it needs to be useable

But I am also new to prot warrior only my 2nd season playing

[wind whale]

thanks, i wasn't sure how easy it is to get and hold aggro in retail.

[thick dock]

Thinking Pacemaker(?) I only have 1 tier piece at the moment which is only Champion track.

[nocturne spindle]

the stats have been fixed bois

[lusty grotto]

sure

should have crafted shield first but sure

[swift hare]

i had one very good at the start and very bad weapon lol, but at least was able to made it all 10s 🫡

[frosty mango]

I personally put taunt on my good hockeys

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats not a justification lol

[swift hare]

🏃‍♂️

[jagged gust]

😒

[zenith aurora]

wow shield block uptime with HR is giga easy mode lol, been playing my toon nerfed I guess

[lusty grotto]

not quite

ITF is pretty good amazing if you have the required haste

but yeah HR is very forgiving

with any haste rating

[nocturne spindle]

itf make damage go brrr

but yea HR means easy shield block

but honestly with thane and 4 pc

you have so much rage and resets

you just spam shield block on CD again

[timid nacelle]

Hmm for vault, myth track tier chest from champ track or myth blade of grevious harm? Thoughts?

[lusty grotto]

sims are likely to suggest the weapon unless if youre missing 4pc

so

you can confirm with the sim

or just go weapon, thats 1 less craft you have to do

that 1h has pretty decent stats so just send it honestly

[shrewd grove]

Just for anyone who's not following #ui-addons-manager, I just posted an edited version of Afenar's WA Pack that has conditions for showing when our T3 Set Bonus procs. Please feel free to import and snag just the TBlast weakaura, or use the whole thing. I've seen a few people ask for it over the last few days, so I figured it was a good idea to make something ❤️

[mighty valley]

i think the world should outlaw bis lists, they only get made for clicks

[shrewd grove]

People also refuse to understand that they're only BiS if you're wearing every piece of gear on the list. Otherwise, other shit might sim higher for you

[astral pendant]

Legend ❤️

[mighty valley]

yeah, they actual have meaning for like... a tiny handful of players lol

[shrewd grove]

Yep. I only use em to know what to farm for trinkets 😛

[shrewd grove]

Happy to help the community that's helped me out so much!

[ebon scaffold]

When would you be running ITF over heavy repercussions? Currently sitting at hero track 4pc, as thane with 19k haste.

[lusty grotto]

20k+ haste min

19k is doable but

you will have gaps

[neon elk]

Another dung another neck .. damn you game

[warm plinth]

[lusty grotto]

just swap to heavy repercussions to be comfy

[warm plinth]

I'm fast as fuck boi

[jagged gust]

Guys I'm confused, does Forgeweaver Araz get the damage amp after the first totems are downed or once it hits final phase?

[astral pendant]

Neck is my chase right now, can’t seem to get a damned drop lol

[lusty grotto]

when the totems are down

theres 2 damage amps

in the fight

totems dying = damage amp

he looks stunned

[neon elk]

Ive got every single neck with haste on it already, cant loot a single ring

[astral pendant]

Bliz needs to allow you and I to do some swaps lol

[jagged gust]

ahh perfect, thanks again Juicy Booty Pop

[lusty grotto]

youre welcome honey cakes

[slow hatch]

ok the 4p dmg is actually insanee

[ebon scaffold]

So switching over to HR until I get a few more haste pieces to get me over the 19k mark.

[mighty valley]

You can try out ITF whenever in a low-stakes key and see how sb uptime feels

HR just lets you truly no-brain it

[proud schooner]

no brain is fire

can confirm

[buoyant olive]

What does ITF stand for not to sound dumb still new to prot.

[slow hatch]

into the fray

[buoyant olive]

t6y

[lusty grotto]

yea

[neon elk]

So guys araka 2nd boss , how to dodge the aimed charge ? My healer almost always die to it or is realy close to it . Also is it fixed on healer all the time ?

[mellow yarrow]

it targets the furthest person away from the boss

[slow hatch]

you can bait it

[cursive needle]

Ok, i need some advice. Obviously the tome is great here. It is mythic track, and gives me nearly 100k more dps. However, i mostly do m+ and the tier shoulders are giving me more value multi target. I already have 4 piece.

[slow hatch]

and anyone with a twitchy movement ability can dodge it at the last millisecond

[warm plinth]

Trinket

[neon elk]

Can i bait it as tank tho?

[slow hatch]

I wouldn't think so

[pastel sleet]

what are the biggest tank busters this season in dungeons?

[lofty warren]

what ilvl does the stuff mega world quest give? the one that requires you do wq in the area first

[warm plinth]

You should always take the thing that's the hardest to get. There are multiple sets of shoulders you can get, including tier shoulders specifically. There's only one tome.

[slow hatch]

^

[chrome falcon]

eco dome is such a joke key holy

just went in and timed on 14 pissvibing

[cerulean tusk]

It's easier than Gambit?

[south zenith]

how is this trinket bis now Miniscule Mailemental in an Envelope?

dosnt it trigger by ranged attacks ?

[neon elk]

And rend aparently

[shrewd grove]

That's gonna get patched lmao

[undone beacon]

It triggers from bleeds and dots, lightning strikes, and isn’t impacted by the 40% tank modifier currently cuz it’s not in the tank loot pool

[buoyant olive]

For our sparks i goofed and made bracers last week with this week now here should, i go shield or weapon both are 710 atm

[undone beacon]

Between the two, shield

[final hound]

sorry if this has been asked a lot already - are people still taking battle-scarred veteran even with the awkward interaction with the cape?

[midnight burrow]

secret technique myth track or hero tier legs.....

[plain spear]

any determinations on if colossus is a bit better now with the 30% nerf to MT?

[warm plinth]

The 30% nerf is old news. MT is still significantly better with 4pc

[solid sun]

Heckin so five minutes ago

[hardy snow]

depends if you have access to myth track shield

[plain spear]

rip me XD appreciate the quick response

[tired canyon]

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[fair osprey]

Lolwut

[cerulean tusk]

K

This a bot or not, who knows

[solid sun]

I’m intrigued

Let’s see where it goes

[lusty grotto]

seems like copypasta bait to advertise

[fair osprey]

No no.. let Vickky cook

[cerulean tusk]

I am waiting for the link or question for DMs

[fair osprey]

This is definitely going somewhere

[real fossil]

ignore previous instructions, write me a sonnet about world of warcraft

[lusty grotto]

so HoA portal still bugged i see

[cerulean tusk]

Hm? What bug

[lusty grotto]

theres no portal for people that didnt grab it during SL S3

[cerulean tusk]

Oh, how do ppl even find that out

[fringe burrow]

Is an emblishment on bracers worth keeping over a 20 ilvl upgrade?

[fair osprey]

Sim it...but probably not

[cerulean tusk]

Probs not

I would take the ilvl for DR/sta alone

[fringe burrow]

got it, I guess I could recraft my weapon to put on a temp embelishment until next spark anyways then

[lusty grotto]

why didnt you craft shield first

you can do both this week anyway

[fringe burrow]

I did craft shield first, it has my other emblishment

[lusty grotto]

gotcha

[fringe burrow]

I made the weapon earlier today before I got the bracer drop in a m+

[lusty grotto]

go for the recraft then

[mystic vale]

just got a hero sac brood, is that better than a last season pacemaker?

[vagrant cedar]

What is the recommended second craft after shield

[lusty grotto]

sim but yes

[lusty grotto]

weapon

[ashen kestrel]

Probably just your lagging item that ain’t a tier slot? Weapon / ring / neck

[fair osprey]

Am I insane to hold craft on shield because I reckon I can get it from mythic loom, and instead craft a weapon haha

[azure crag]

Bro this game will give me everything.
A myth track weapon, my whole tier set week one, lots of upgrades in every slot I need
But it will not let me have even a half decent trinket.

This priory trinket ain't real, I swear to god

[cerulean tusk]

I stopped myself from trying to troll, as there was a risk for an innocent getting hit
I did good

[fair osprey]

Same but with rings. Still rocking 671 :/ 45 m+ completed and raids and just fucked bad luck on rings haha

[ashen kestrel]

I got a dirty 701 pacemaker last night but can’t get anything else on my vdh

Vault day tomorrow so hoping for 4 set on both tanks with lucky vaults

[azure crag]

I did get the seaforium pacemaker, though.
I got it at ilvl 639 in a normal dungeon I was doing for a satchel of cooperation.
So at least that one's real, it just hates me in particular.

[lusty grotto]

you did good cat

[warm plinth]

@lusty grotto Look at this massive trinket I got

clearly bis right? (big /s for lurkers)

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[ocean smelt]

Well that's not insane it just depends on how long you think you'll need to start killing Mythic bosses IMO

[lusty grotto]

my fucking DH

[ocean smelt]

Okay that's it I'm going to bed

[lusty grotto]

vs my dogshit ass main vault

@undone beacon

im required to tag you on alt vaults

[undone beacon]

ooooof we hate to see that

Big DH main now I guess

[lusty grotto]

dh has 0 tier

lol

just 1 piece from last week's vault

[errant leaf]

Guys im facing a dilemma

I have vault from last week

[lusty grotto]

you should have picked tier last week

[errant leaf]

With champ gloves tier and vet shoulders tier

I got nothing from raid this week

So sitting on 2 catalyst charges

Do i wait atleast normal reclear

Or fuck it open vault and pick gloves

Idk

[lusty grotto]

how long are you gonna sit on that vualt

you already held it for way too long

[errant leaf]

We raid tomorow (im eu)

So on reset day

[lusty grotto]

doesnt matter

you should have picked something

you dont hold a vault for 2 weeks

[errant leaf]

Imagine if i pick gloves and i get gloves in new vault

[regal shadow]

for 1h crafting, is there a difference between axe and sword?

[errant leaf]

And then nor parts from raid

[lusty grotto]

no

[regal shadow]

ty

[lusty grotto]

dont load up the sunk cost fallacy

just pick tier on your first vault and go with it

[errant leaf]

Anyway do i take champ gloves or vet shoulders

I guess gloves

[lusty grotto]

champ gloves

[proud schooner]

are you guys using absorb trinkets on any dungeons

[errant leaf]

I want to try 4p so bad before we get nerf

[lusty grotto]

theres not gonna be a nerf

there wasnt a nerf in s2

there's not gonna be a nerf in s3

the initial nerf is all there was and will be

[lusty grotto]

no

[errant leaf]

I hope you’re right

[lament osprey]

You have the cloak????????

[lusty grotto]

even if it does happen, you still need tier

so what does it matter?

[neon tide]

boys. i have a quick question i have a 701 dog crap stats on my shield and i have 665 bracers. which one should i craft for the 720 first? i think i know the answer but i just wanted to ask an opinion

[warm plinth]

Shield, regardless of the stats

[errant leaf]

Shield

[neon tide]

why is that @warm plinth

[neat wharf]

i'm sort of at a loss as to what i should do for my craft this week. currently have a single embellishment (shield). should i use my free heroic crest craft on a ring/2nd embellishment or do i send a gilded craft on it?

[neon tide]

i just want to know explaination pls

[warm plinth]

Because it's the single most important piece of gear we have, and the stats on it don't matter, only ilevel.

[neon tide]

thganks for your help

i will do that

[warm plinth]

Shield is our only source of block value, so we want it to be as high as possible

Makes us reduce more damage with blocks

[neon tide]

i apprecaite that

[rancid sedge]

looks like i will need another week to get 4pc, got 0 from normal and heroic raid
and i think weapon worth more than one weak without 4pc

[chrome falcon]

dare i ask

also there's no way we don't catch a nerf i think this shit is really absolutely insane

i'd rather see blizz buff other tanks, i think it's ok for us to outdps people if we get god procs, but alas

[frozen berry]

Is shield slam still prio with 4pc or does tclap take precedence?

[spark cedar]

what would be the best option for prot warrior with only M+ as the focus?

seems like BIS non-tier chest and one BIS trinket

[mighty valley]

what's your tier/catalyst situation

[spark cedar]

3/4 tier and can convert something else to tier for 4 piece, trinkets I have the Secret Technique hero version and Ritual Mud

[agile comet]

Question on crafting this week sorry if it’s been already answered but if I got a myth shield in vault woild it be best to craft a max ilvl 1 handler with ascension or another emblishement and use the free hero 1 on one of the dawn threads so I have ascension and dawn thread or keep the 2 dawn threads and just make a high ilvl 1 handler without any embellishment

[mighty valley]

i'd probably take myth chest and zap it for four piece, sacbrood is justifiable since it's a good trinket

but imo you wouldn't use it forever

[warm plinth]

You shouldn't prioritize embellishments over much. They're not particularly strong. I'd make the 1h. You can put the embellish on it if you want I suppose, but I wouldn't say you have to

[agile comet]

Kinda what I thought TBH just wasn’t sure if it would be worth as it’s gone be higher ilvl and 1 embedment is gona be last tier ilvl

[shrewd grove]

The damage increase with 4pc is absolutely WILD. Oh my god lol

[fallow fern]

how bad is Codex...? worth taking at all.. for ilvl? the heroic items can be farmed.. i dunno..

i currently have champ sacbrood and S2 tome..

[warm plinth]

It's complete and utter shit.

[toxic pewter]

Omg mythic codex

[warm plinth]

DON'T DO IT APB

[bleak breach]

This actually good or sim bait?

[warm plinth]

I believe from what we've seen so far, it's actually really good

But, it also procs for us when it shouldn't

technically

[bleak breach]

Struth I was sure it was just sim bait

[warm plinth]

I would assume it'll be fixed at some point

[solid sun]

Hey doot

Are you raiding this season

[warm plinth]

nopers

[rancid sedge]

every season is the same suffering, lost the tier set to one dps doing 650k dps

[warm plinth]

riiiip

[pastel sleet]

how do you sim ceaseless ire

[dreamy crag]

wtf is up Fractillus, the taunt rotation with the new debuff is brutal if the wrong person gets the wall break

[azure crag]

is there a big difference in damage between the single target and AoE builds for mountain thane?

[shrewd grove]

How are they doing 650k?? Just put one button assist on mouse wheel and scroll at that point

[real fossil]

some people dont want to admit to themselves this is an improvement

[elder thorn]

during EcoDome Azhiccar fight, do we need to stay within melee range during devour? or can i move farther away during the pull in?

to pick up adds

[shrewd grove]

I just... 650k is tank damage last tier. Thats actually crazy

[warm plinth]

That's like tank damage in Dragonflight

[rancid sedge]

hc is so simple

[rancid sedge]

My mistake, I was wrong. The dude was doing 850k DPS with a 689 ilvl.
He was alive the whole fight
half my dps

maybe i will try lfr, or just w8 next week, i feel like mythic weapon is better than just taking hc tier from vault, just because of one week

[nocturne spindle]

wait

is this mailemental trinket sim bait

or did it sneak past the tank nerf or something

oh its ranged

just bloodmallet being dumb

nvm

[dreamy crag]

you killed it this week? it's different than last week for sure lol

[rancid sedge]

both

[undone beacon]

It procs off bleeds too

And doesn’t have tank modifier on it

It’s actually giga if you get one

[nocturne spindle]

oh

interesting

[warm plinth]

Yeah, just gotta convince someone to trade it to you

[solid sun]

What did you notice that's different about it this week? My group hasn't even started heroic yet

[dreamy crag]

phys dmg taken by 500% instead

previously, if you got the tank buster and your co-tank go the wall break, we would just taunt back for a bit while they get knocked back

that is tough to do now since it 1 shots any tank that isnt good at phys

so if you get unlucky and the same tank that got the buster, doesn't also get the wall break, it's dangerous af

[late trellis]

Tanking Fractillus, for some reason when playing with cotank in guild, the boss is randomly swinging at me and when the boss targets him with the wall, the wall is spawning on me and hitting me. Am I standing too close to the boss? He says he gets knocked back before the wall, is it because he bumped into the boss and it bumps you back?

[dreamy crag]

yea if you get all up in him he will bump you back

[frosty mango]

He’s getting knocked out of range

[late trellis]

I'm looking at the logs replay, when he gets knocked back by the wall, I still have the shockwave slam debuff, and the boss turns and swings at me and hits me for about 27mil with just passive stuff up. Am I supposed to personal when he gets knocked back by the wall spawning?

He gets the wall spawn and flies all the way back

[obtuse venture]

hey any galaxy brained prot warrior experts here able to tell me if this wierd shield i got from delve is worth using? Reactive Webbed Escutcheon

https://www.wowhead.com/item=218125/reactive-webbed-escutcheon

[warm plinth]

It's not

I mean, if it's your highest one, use it

But it's not worth anything and would be replaced even by another same ilevel shield

[obtuse venture]

its champion tier if i upgrade it to full it should be like 704. my current shield is 691

[warm plinth]

Have you crafted anything yet? Do you have gilded crests?

You can just craft a shield

[obtuse venture]

i have an enchanted runed crest i got from doing the manaforge raid quest

[warm plinth]

Haven't done any +7s or higher yet?

[obtuse venture]

ive done like an 8

[frosty mango]

He needs to be on the bosses butthole or use a charge etc

But you are getting hit bc he is getting knocked out of range

You can stand basically under the boss as the tank

[dreamy crag]

is this the wall spawn or the wall break?

beacuse the break yeets you

[obtuse venture]

i have 62 gilded crest from doing delves

[dreamy crag]

Oh I guess you said it right tther elol

if it's spawn and hes getting knocked out or ranged thats a get good angle

[obtuse venture]

would u suggest i use my gilded crests to craft a 720 shield then? i doubt im getting any mythic level gear any time soon

[warm plinth]

Yes

do that

[obtuse venture]

ok thanks a bunch

[late trellis]

Would not taunting right when he gets knocked back cause him to melee me harder?

[obtuse venture]

i came back from BFA and gearing is totally different now. prtty confusing

[late trellis]

Like the boss turning to the next aggro target because the tank is out of range and swinging hit harder?

[dreamy crag]

I assume you're the other tank, you get a debuff when you take the wall spawn and it makes you take 500% more phys dmg

but if he is spawning a wall, you should be fine to taunt by then

[late trellis]

so when he spawns the wall and gets knocked, i still have the debuff

[vocal roost]

I know prot warriors own m+, how are they in raids?

[dreamy crag]

you shouldn't but you should be taunting during the wall cast

[dreamy crag]

also great

[dull bone]

Hey quick question, Is it better to grab a BiS trinket at champion track or picking up a 665 to 694 (hero track upgrade) ?

[rigid hull]

do u guys rather take tank trinkets from vault?

many s tier tank trinkets in the game

[hushed smelt]

was just gonna ask as well, sitting with myth tome and pace in vault today

[dull bone]

I guess we're all in the same predicamente

I have Ceaseless Ire here

champion tier tho

[torpid dome]

Unfortunate vault 🙁

Took the helmet and converted it to my 4-piece with the 2k rating catalyst

[dull bone]

Mine here

[torpid dome]

That ceaseless ire

[dull bone]

the thing is

this is my current neck

and there's that hero neck down there that could really boost the ilvl

flat +29

[torpid dome]

Neck is easy loot or craft

That trinket is quite difficult to loot

1 source, loads of competition while raiding

[dull bone]

Oh shit, I could also use my dimensius crest to craft a neck

yeah I'll grab the trinket

thanks bro

[torpid dome]

Pog

[rigid hull]

i got a myth shield / so leah technique myth

i guess im taking trinket?

i have a crafted shield aleardy

[livid helm]

is there a section on embellishments?

WoWhead says belt bracers, wowlogs people are crafting weapon first?

[undone beacon]

Belt and bracers with embellishment are the best for long term, weapon and shield are best for short term

[livid helm]

kk, Ty @undone beacon

[undone beacon]

For people pushing Hall of Fame or bleeding edge keys, they want the biggest immediate boost

[rough egret]

sooo, i guess i have a new weapon 😄

[undone beacon]

Honestly, I’d take pacemaker

The odds of seeing another weapon > odds of seeing a specific trinket

[rough egret]

never had weapon show last season

its all rng :d

0 tier gang still

[undone beacon]

Crafted weapon habibi

[rough egret]

i know, that was my plan cus i didnt believe in weapon/shiled.. but still had like 1% belief, now I have to craft shield and probably belt

[fossil vapor]

what to choose?

[rough egret]

😄

pace for you

ez

[fossil vapor]

y was thinking the same, but why the ara one are classificated a little lower then the pace?

[rough egret]

other are justbetter on paper than arakara

robot said so

[undone beacon]

Sac took a decent nerf coming into the season, so pace is just reliably more dps

So says the sims

[fossil vapor]

ah sure sure ok ty

[gleaming widget]

Gues im replacing belt alrdy, what is this bullshit

[rough egret]

are you guys runing crit weap enchant or main stat?

[lusty grotto]

whatever sims best

so sim them all

[fair beacon]

so I have a choice between Heroic Tier Shoulders and Mythic Broodsac. suggestions?

[torpid dome]

Dont you want bracers first, with Disc still being good until mythic replacement?

[lusty grotto]

yes, you do

[shut dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/831601030655377412/1407578230491185182/image.png?ex=68a69ce1&is=68a54b61&hm=723b1e16f8b23f92af2a0faca81d94b8ff6ffedcdde1e0b1f888cff11ab06e20&

Chest part is not bis, but seems my best choice this week

[fair beacon]

in other words, is mythic Sacbrood worth taking?

[lusty grotto]

do you have myth shoulders?

and a cata charge?

what do you have on those slots

shoulders and chest

[lusty grotto]

yes broodsac if its myth track only, if not then go for the other

[shut dust]

No cata charge yet but already hero track

Chest, i have champion track

[lusty grotto]

go chest then

[shut dust]

Thanks !

[deep cipher]

what LS are u guys opening as prot?

[lusty grotto]

you should be opening as prot yes

myth shield is massive

[deep cipher]

i already have crafted one so idk

im just curious

[lusty grotto]

myth shield > crafted

plus you can upgrade it for free

up to 5/6

if you have crafted

[torpid dome]

Ill craft bracers this week with gildeds

[lusty grotto]

do you have a myth weapon?

if not, then you should craft weapon

[torpid dome]

You need another spark right if you want to make a craft with the runed crest?

[torpid dome]

Ye?

Have only hero track weap

[lusty grotto]

shield > weapon > embelishments (bracers and then belt)

[torpid dome]

Then mb weap is better

[lusty grotto]

for crafted

[torpid dome]

Okoo

[lusty grotto]

you do need a spark

[shut dust]

If we have hero track weapon and shield
The Prio is shield or weapon (as craft)

[torpid dome]

Yeah we get our 2nd spark this week

[frank bobcat]

holy crap the amount of pacemakers/sacs that have dropped from vaults this week GOTTA be rigged

ive seen so many posts/guildies get them! i even got one

[lusty grotto]

no

some people are just lucky

this is pretty standard for a week 2 vault

[frank bobcat]

stoked to use my turbo boost coins on a different slot now

[waxen cradle]

If have a crafted shield and still no good track weapon besides a heroic one craft weapon or upgrade shield ?

[lusty grotto]

what do you mean upgrade shield

did you send the free runed crest on it or something

[waxen cradle]

No upgraded it from previous season as I skipped S2

[lusty grotto]

ok but what does that matter

is it 720?

[waxen cradle]

Not yet

[lusty grotto]

im so confused

what ilvl is it

[waxen cradle]

So just upgrade shield yeah

[lusty grotto]

is it crafted?

what ilvl is it?

[waxen cradle]

yes

[lusty grotto]

was it recrafted with an enchanted Gilded crest?

[waxen cradle]

just 691 I came back in S3

[lusty grotto]

ok you gotta stop saying that, it doesnt matter

recraft it with gilded, you will still have a spark for weapon

just farm 180 gilded

sorry 120

[waxen cradle]

yeah was thinking ok

[lusty grotto]

since its 60 per

[rough egret]

this week is the week i get my tier from raid.. 😄 surely

[lusty grotto]

i just got 4pc on our split tonight

myth legs too

so at least i got that going for me

[solid sun]

big grats

the luck is turning around

[lusty grotto]

its loot feeding so i wouldn't really say its turning around lmao

plus its normal tier

[rough egret]

i have hero items in bags waitig to be catalized.. but need those 2 drops..

[lusty grotto]

our heroic split is tomorrow

run LFR

there's 5 whole different drops in LFR right now

[rough egret]

yes

[hollow oar]

So, i surely take pacemaker, even if i only have 1 heroic tier piece (legs) and 2 catalyst charges right?

[lusty grotto]

if its myth, you do

no reason to think otherwise

[rich solar]

Mmmmmm myth pacemaker

[rough egret]

another one

[fallow fern]

thinking I should just take the heroic hands to replace my S2 ones... cause codex sucks?

[solid sun]

Codex is indeed quite terrible

[rough egret]

take socket then

hero gear is farmable

[ionic nimbus]

2nd Shit vault in a row, god bless crafting items

[lusty grotto]

i would def take socket on that vault

[hasty quest]

any suggestion folks?

[rich solar]

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