protection

[shrewd grove]

Yeah, that's true. But it doesn't take long to learn. And when you hit max lvl you can look up routes. You can always try your DPS specs and see if you like it better

[solid sun]

How much responsibility you put on yourself is entirely up to you

[sick sentinel]

someitmes i dps in dungeons and i can learn from other tanks

[lilac widget]

is colossus still completely viable for up to 13/14s?

[jagged pier]

yyes

[shrewd grove]

Week 1 and 2 I never run the same route twice. These are the weeks to try shit out

[solid sun]

Yeah I’m not pressed about the timer rn

I’m just trying to get gear and vaults finished and see if there are any packs I like more than others

[sick sentinel]

for instance in ara kara towards the end i go downthe right side to the last boss to get percentage points instead of finsiheing the boss then going back to get perentage (learned from other tanks while i was dpsing)

[solid sun]

Or how many packs I can get away with at a time or what I can safely skip

[shrewd grove]

Honestly, routing isnt going to stop you from timing 10s this week

[solid sun]

I sent it straight down the middle my last ara Kara

[sick sentinel]

as playing tank role i learned more about dungeon mechanics than any other role

as healer role i didnt care too much abougt mechanics and as dps normally i let other dps handle mechanics lol unless dps posted in details i wasnt interrupting then id have to interrupt etc

[solid sun]

I think playing all three role helps make you a better player personally

[spare island]

guys do we break 4 set for new 2 set?

sry if the question is stupid

[solid sun]

It isn't

It's best to just sim it

[spare island]

ok thx

[old flame]

Just remember that you lose SB uptime when you drop S2 4pc

[spare island]

ye

but idk just might be worth casue mainstat gain

[solid sun]

Well if you don't have enough haste you spec into HR

[spice wharf]

The best part which encouraged me to be a Tank is like 10sec dungeon queue

[solid sun]

And you still maintain SB uptime

If you have enough haste you can keep ITF

[shrewd grove]

The overwhelming generalization is break 4pc only for 4pc. But you have to sim

[solid sun]

And also maintain SB uptime

[spare island]

hr is what kinda new to prot sry

[solid sun]

Heavy Repercussions

[shrewd grove]

Heavy repercussions. Choice node with into the fray

[spare island]

thx

[toxic pewter]

I think i have to swap to HR

my haste is like 16k really low

[solid sun]

Yeah

[old flame]

Yeah

[solid sun]

HR time

[toxic pewter]

just unlucky with rings

and other crap

maybe i will craft a ring...

hmmm

[mild river]

How much haste we need to maintain SB up 100%?

[toxic pewter]

I think like 20k at least

25k is very comfortable

[mild river]

Ty 😊

[toxic pewter]

25k may be too much actually im not 100% sure maybe others can give better figures

[solid sun]

I've read 19k is like the bare minimum, but usually 20-21k is fine and more comfy

[smoky pollen]

Me- currently sitting at like 25k

Can confirm it feels awesome

[old flame]

I should really grind out the rings/neck for better haste but priory first

[frosty mango]

You shouldn’t (well most people) hard grind one dungeon, makes you a worse tank and you get burnt out quickly

[jagged pier]

[neon elk]

Also its easier to "farm" rings later than to farm tome, because trades

[old flame]

Idk how playing more is gonna make me worse but I want my book

And rings can be traded once everyone has theirs

[frosty mango]

Most people pick up the most gains by getting reps in on keys early season and if you’re exclusively farming one key you’re not getting reps in the others

I’m sure there are exceptions but like nearly anything in life diversity in experience leads to better results than tunneling

[jagged pier]

all the keys but eco dome

weve done before

at length

more reps aint gunna help anything i know them already

[frosty mango]

If that’s true why are there so many shitty tanks with terrible routes

[jagged pier]

because there always are

[old flame]

Same reason half of my dps are below me in damage

[frosty mango]

But there could be less jakey, there could be less

[steady mason]

me, sitting here not having done streets at all week 1

[smoky pollen]

I promise you, you didn’t miss any fun.

[blazing ridge]

Struggling with a hood HoA route

Good*

[azure crag]

I never got to do much of Tazevesh, as I left shadowlands halfway through because it was the worst expansion in the game's history and I couldn't take it anymore.

Which means I kind of got 3 new dungeons this season!

[jagged pier]

depend if u want to skip between 1 and second boss

[smoky pollen]

I like Tactyks route (can find on wago for MDT) I break it up so you never get more than one hound master except that 1 pull

[blazing ridge]

Ppl also die left and right in my 10 HoA

[frosty mango]

Hound masters aren’t my crutch it’s the ankle biters imo that brick keys

[blazing ridge]

Care to link m

[solid sun]

People keep dying to ankle biters in my keys

[smoky pollen]

Ye lemme find it

[solid sun]

idk if I'm doing something wrong or what

[frosty mango]

Tanks forever pulling like 3 packs of those and people get shredded

[blazing ridge]

Yeah anklebiter are hard

[frosty mango]

Pull as few as possible, they are low efficiency high risk mobs

[blazing ridge]

Nah I have mostly only 1 anklepack

[frosty mango]

Hard avoid for me imo

[blazing ridge]

Ic

Ty

[azure crag]

every mob in HoA feels low efficiency.
Gotta kill like 70% of that whole instance

[smoky pollen]

Sent in dm

[frosty mango]

They also changed some trash in dawnbreaker now so you can just go directly from third to last boss without pulling those shitty packs in the middle of town by the fountain

[toxic pewter]

yeah worst part of the season so far is certain dungeons just needing too much trash imo

like hoa, even eco dome

i want to just press w lol

[frosty mango]

Instead you can make two really fat pulls near the back of the church, do the miniboss, then pop out of the front of the church

[blazing ridge]

Thanks checking it out later

[frosty mango]

I dunno eco dome feels like the easiest key to me

[blazing ridge]

Also some pulls in dawn are hard

With the new -debuff heal

[toxic pewter]

eco is easy its just needs too much trash imo

[lean aurora]

Question: Are y'all using WAs to track Outbursts, Thunder Blasts, and/or Burst of Power procs?

[smoky pollen]

I quite like ECO Dome but those big sentinels hurt and no one wants to prio it

[azure crag]

The hardest part of eco dome to me is just finding enough dudes to take out before we hit the end

[frosty mango]

Yes, and no

[toxic pewter]

yeah like if i jsut press w in eco i am at like 70% trash at end boss

lol

[azure crag]

I swear, I pull more of that dungeon every time I do it, and somehow end up at less % by the end

[toxic pewter]

ya

it sucks

[torn gulch]

i've already learned by breakpoints in ecodome

[frosty mango]

Thunder blast is pretty apparent when it’s up, violent outburst is important to track

[smoky pollen]

I think you pretty much clear the whole area around 2nd boss and you can kind of w key through third area

[lean aurora]

Thank you

[frosty mango]

If you clear a lot of trash by second boss you can skip most of the pactspeaker packs near third which is a good gain

There’s a lot of good Los choke points in third boss area too so you can make some big pulls

[smoky pollen]

Yeah you kind of just skip the first totem, follow the broken path and w key

[frosty mango]

I usually do the entire area in 2-3 pulls

[solid sun]

Any predictions for how week 2 of RWF will go

[jagged pier]

someone wins

[slow hatch]

With this change, will Colossus make a comeback?

[jagged pier]

isnt that old old news?

[undone beacon]

Wasn’t that like, week 1 of the patch

https://tenor.com/view/bait-fish-this-is-bait-gif-11212449

Also why is wowhead so fucking terrible on mobile

[slow hatch]

No, it's not bait. The article was from today but it was just listing the changes, I didn't see it was retrospective.

[deft mortar]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[slow hatch]

I wasn't aware it already happened.

[deft mortar]

Anyway, this doesn't impact my health maxxing

25.6M unbuffed and increasing

[undone beacon]

Yeah it happened before the season started

[undone beacon]

Unintentional bait but it still made my heartrate rise smh my head

[lone hemlock]

I can't figure out what to use the second crafting spark on. It seems like if I'm not doing mythic raiding, the main hand weapon is best? Rather than a belt or bracers with embellishment.

[undone beacon]

If you're not raiding and you dont get a myth wep from vault today, then wep

[lone hemlock]

Yeah, and I could just throw a random embellishment on the weapon and then remove it when I get my third spark.

[solid sun]

Just mythic raid. Surely the first two bosses are doable in a pug

[lone hemlock]

I don't like to pug the raid, doesn't feel fulfilling to me 😄

[undone beacon]

"I dont want to mythic raid". "Just raid 4head"

Rhinoooooo

[solid sun]

Well it isn’t really fully mythic raiding

It’s just jumping in a pug and killing two and bouncing

I’m sure it’ll be one shots

:)

[smoky pollen]

I’m crafting shield because I’m bad and will not be listening to reasoning

[undone beacon]

Shield is a fine and valid craft

[steady mason]

thats the route i did s1, but isnt there a commander in the back of the church that should be avoided?

[smoky pollen]

I actively refuse to mythic raid and got a hero weapon from raid week 1 - so shield just makes the most sense to me

[undone beacon]

If you don’t want to step foot into mythic raid, vaults nonwithstanding, crafting a shield and then a wep are the two biggest power gains

I got a hero shield and a hero wep week 1, still made a shield cuz idc

[smoky pollen]

Based

[lone hemlock]

Oh yeah, shield is definitely the craft for me if my vault doesn't give me a shield. I have a hero weapon, but feel like 720 weapon is better than 710 haha. More than changing my bracers from 704 to 720.

[undone beacon]

And if I don’t get a myth wep I’m making a wep asap

Cuz idc

[solid sun]

My first crafts are always shield and then weapon

Because even if I did pug the m bosses I wouldn’t get the drops

So it doesn’t matter

[smoky pollen]

I did a ring week 1 but I simmed and that’s what it told me to do because I quit early last season so my ring was atrocious

[undone beacon]

Less loot to fight over, 3ilvls can be fought for when the rest of my team is set and it’s gonna be DE bait anyways

Plus the less I win in loot council the more likely I am to be thrown the pieces I want

I.e. brand

[frosty mango]

I land at the side of the church, pull the four packs there

Then grab the pack at the back door and run it in and kill those two

[civic kiln]

more or less my pull in eco dome https://threechest.io?id=csfvylanykj

[solid sun]

I land on the balcony

[frosty mango]

Then do lieutenant with the pack o. The stairs and the two shadow guys at the bottom

[solid sun]

Roid

[warm plinth]

You're a balcony

Gottem

[solid sun]

I’m not allowed to do the bridge pull in fg anymore

:(

As soon as we got to 10 my healer said no

[warm plinth]

Bridge pull?

[solid sun]

After swamp

Run across the bridge and duck around the corner

And just fight the whole army

[frosty mango]

https://threechest.io?id=x3ugnblxmf

thats what I do for dawn

[warm plinth]

Why? Isn't that a pretty typical pull? I mean I don't pull it to there but I do pull that

[frosty mango]

tell your healer to stop being a bitch

[solid sun]

lol

[frosty mango]

its a very safe pull

unless theyre a monk

then I might give them a little grace

[warm plinth]

I pull bubbles mobs to the platform then just have someone kick in the patrol when it gets closer

[solid sun]

Rsham

[frosty mango]

oh

[steady mason]

like this?

[solid sun]

I think it’s mostly the inspectors they hate

[frosty mango]

tell him to drop cap totem and quit whining

[warm plinth]

Oh fuck off with that

[steady mason]

o i see you linked your route now ty

[warm plinth]

The easiest mobs in the pack lolol

[frosty mango]

this pull is what hes talking about

imo highly efficient and very not dangerous as long as people just dont stand in the gigantic purple frontal

which is very easy to avoid

[warm plinth]

Oh, I don't do the 4 at the bottom I guess. I pull those up into the jumpstarter

[frosty mango]

we skip that w soothe

[warm plinth]

What are you pulling instead?

[solid sun]

I wish we had a priest consistently

[frosty mango]

https://threechest.io?id=vgbd2242lj

[deft mortar]

That's alotta running

Does the AOE fall-offs make this worth it?

[tepid sparrow]

i've always had to pull those annoying ones on the left

[frosty mango]

its really not a lot of running because you just go directly around the corner

the mobs dont do anything but run to you

[undone beacon]

https://threechest.io/?id=csfvylanykj I do something like this for my Eco

[deft mortar]

oh nice yeah thats ag ood LOS spot

ik i could go on google, but do we get a new spark next week?

Itching to craft another slot

[tepid sparrow]

if you couldn't skip the 3 mobs always roid, where would you go in that floodgate

something like this ? https://threechest.io?id=vgbd2242lj

[frosty mango]

https://threechest.io?id=vgbd2242lj

not quite as efficient

[warm plinth]

Ive been doing this https://threechest.io?id=9khci5wrjy

[frosty mango]

I could prob run a better route where i combine pull 14 and 15 for efficiency but healers always complain

i dunno i have no trouble healing 3 of the big guys

chiji go brr tho

[undone beacon]

Honestly pull 13 keeps fucking me with the extra Soldiers

[frosty mango]

I always found it easiest on bear

bc you can stamp

[undone beacon]

I get the electrician debuff needs to be dispelled but fuck if I have 26 stacks on any tank it doesnt matter, im OUT

[warm plinth]

Yeah it's rough untik the electricians die since healer has to dispel that

[undone beacon]

Let a dps die, save the tank. Otherwise they wipe

[warm plinth]

Thank the lord for dwarfs

[tepid sparrow]

in ara do we take bitter immunity for that last crap

[frosty mango]

oh yea i have never had them live enough

for that to matter

[tepid sparrow]

or is that impossible to make work

[frosty mango]

i will say we tried it on 13 and that pull was maybe kinda tough

i also dont have new gear tho I was like 687

[steady edge]

https://threechest.io?id=vgbd2242lj

i do this

[neon elk]

U dispel one poison over whole fight, not worth imo

[frosty mango]

Roidburg isnt in the primetime yet bc I need to gear monk

[undone beacon]

Its literally just a CC/DPS issue, things arent dying fast enough and suddenly im taking 8 mil shadow damage every 2 seconds

[tepid sparrow]

just gotta trust healer

[warm plinth]

Do you lust that roid?

[undone beacon]

they nerfed the mechanic anyways so, def not worth imo

[frosty mango]

usually lust pull 1, big momma, and then either pull 13, or last boss

[undone beacon]

Highkey Bitter Immunity's debuff removal should be on Last Stand to make it, idk, a worthwhile button to hit

[frosty mango]

if we're not skipping i like to combine 14/15 and lust that

but like I said healers always bitch

healing keys is really just a man up situation imo, every healer has the ability to output far more burst healing than is usually needed in any situation you just need to know its coming

[warm plinth]

I'd hate my fucking life as a melee dps with 3 jumpstarters ngl

[real fossil]

that would be cool, but in my dreams we have safeguard still instead

[frosty mango]

if people are dying its usually bc of stray casts getting off

not bc of healing throughput issues

thats a play issue

[undone beacon]

the only other change i make in a route like this is I pull the sniper pat + 2soldiers/dogs after pull 1, and skip the architect under 4

[frosty mango]

if everyone stacks, you can backpedal in one uniform direction

[undone beacon]

Cuz i dont like architects lol

[frosty mango]

makes the entire thing very trivial

[warm plinth]

No one likes architects

Except roid apparently

XD

[civic kiln]

yeah I like to pull the 3 jumpstarters, the architects I remember learning the hard way why not to pull them with the shredders

[round pendant]

someone explain how my group is supposed to kick anything when my comp has spriest and prevoker and a random pugger who's hit or miss

I need help

[frosty mango]

single mob you can prio down worth over 2%? hell yes I like architects lol

[round pendant]

two 40s cd kicks is ridiculous

[warm plinth]

Except you pull 2 at once

[undone beacon]

https://threechest.io?id=vgbd2242lj is what ive been doing for flood

[frosty mango]

yeah never been an issue for me

[warm plinth]

Which just sounds annoying tbh lol

[azure crag]

Whelp.
I don't need a spark for my weapon no more lmao

[civic kiln]

realms up?

[warm plinth]

Nice

[sage sun]

weapon or trinket?

[frosty mango]

you dont run prevoker if you have spriest, also clench your butthole and get ready to carry kicks

[round pendant]

lmao

yeah they're my friends

need the prevoker for lust and spriest won't switch and others won't reroll to a luster

[gentle acorn]

do we got MT with 2pc 2pc?

[round pendant]

voker hates shaman cause it's boring

[warm plinth]

Trinket imo and craft weapon. Any myth track weapon will do. Trinkets are a lot more specific and harder to get on myth track

[undone beacon]

Damn guys what do i take

[frosty mango]

If you’re running priest dps you basically gotta have Rsham or pally or monk

Healer

You need those kicks

[round pendant]

or get this

blizz should make spriest not god awful

no reason for 40s kicks to even exist either

[real fossil]

holy moly what luck

[round pendant]

sucks though

[frosty mango]

do I take mythic neck or heroic tier

I feel like neck right?

[warm plinth]

Yeah long cd kicks are just super arbitrary

Thats the haste>mastery neck right

[frosty mango]

yea

[ocean iron]

yall opening in prot or fury spec

[undone beacon]

myth items are harder to get rn, id say neck

you can farm out hero pieces to catalyst

[warm plinth]

I agree. Gotta go neck unless you're gonna delay 4pc or something

[frosty mango]

feel like I may need to take the tier since were trying to push keys and if I dont take it im unlikely to get 4pc

[rough egret]

thats exactly my nightmare 😄

[frosty mango]

i dont think I can really roll into 14s this week with old tier

[warm plinth]

Yeah I would personally prioritize 4pc over a neck

[frosty mango]

kinda throwing if I do lol

[civic kiln]

champ brand rip

[tepid sparrow]

myth track shitty disarm vambraces

love it

[round pendant]

craft a neck imo

or ring

[frosty mango]

i feel like heroic neck is ok

[rough egret]

my vault is cooking will be very goood

[frosty mango]

bc haste budget on them is so high

[frank crystal]

i got a choice between the heroic raid boots and a mythic tier chest

[warm plinth]

I feel like whatever good item i get this week is gonna be in third slot (didn't finish out my 10s)

[ocean iron]

guys idk prot spec or fury T T it feels risky either way i would hate a shitty tank trinket only got 4 10s done

[round pendant]

our comp is
pwar, prevoker, udk, spriest, boomie

[warm plinth]

Prot ofc

[round pendant]

and it's

SO BAD

on any kick heavy pulls

[warm plinth]

You always open prot until you have myth weapon/shield

Besides, tome is also prot spec

[ocean iron]

ok yolo

[undone beacon]

prot spec

[undone beacon]

nice pacemaker

[warm plinth]

Yeah that sounds like ass yam

[round pendant]

yeah it's depressing

[smoky pollen]

Being at work when reset happens is the worst edging in the world

[undone beacon]

cursed comp

[smoky pollen]

Just seeing other people’s cool loot and waiting in anticipation to finally get home and have the worst vault ever

[round pendant]

spriest is the worst part right

[warm plinth]

Yeah I used to remote in for mine but work blocked remote desktop sadly

[velvet knot]

It is vault day my dudes.

[ocean iron]

i defo go helm right

[warm plinth]

Prevoker is just inherently cursed to me. I find myself so worried by them because of the range

[ocean iron]

helm is the only tier i alr have at champ T T

[velvet knot]

Hey you too as well?

[ocean iron]

eyy lol

[round pendant]

eh the healing is fine

he pumps

[velvet knot]

im thinking chest for me.

[ocean iron]

same seed

[velvet knot]

The ring is garbo right?

[warm plinth]

What stats is it

[ocean iron]

haste vers

even

[velvet knot]

Yea

[warm plinth]

Oh? Nah

[nocturne spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[velvet knot]

I'm thinking chest to get 4set

[warm plinth]

Idk where the question mark came from

But haste vers is perfectly fine

[velvet knot]

I think the play is get chest and catalyze helmet.

[plush tendon]

aight boys... myth pacemaker or myth cursed idol

[mellow bridge]

That ring is good

[nocturne spindle]

man crafted bracers before weapon or shield

[plush tendon]

[nocturne spindle]

crazy talk

[smoky pollen]

Do you ever play arms?

[lone hemlock]

For crafting a weapon, it doesn't matter WHAT weapon right? Just any one hander like a mace or sword?

[warm plinth]

Wait why

[plush tendon]

no.....

[frosty mango]

Full heroic 4pc, mythic weap and shield boys

[mellow bridge]

Any one hander with strength, yes

[frosty mango]

It’s a Roidburg week

[velvet knot]

either i get shield in vault or i craft shield today.

[ocean iron]

bro some men die of thrist while others drown

[velvet knot]

either way i get shield

[smoky pollen]

Probably idol either way tbh

[nocturne spindle]

yea but if you get shield you craft weapon

[velvet knot]

bracers was always a safe pick

[warm plinth]

Yeah but you could have done shield already and then weapon

[velvet knot]

i have hero weapon

its good enough

[warm plinth]

Which is not 720 right?

[undone beacon]

rich get richer

[ocean iron]

so we crafting 1h and shield this week right we should have enough

holy tome

[warm plinth]

So a hero weapon is good enough, but we gotta get the lowest stat piece to max ASAP?

Interesting logic

[frank crystal]

would it be worth taking the interlopers boots over a mythic tier piece

[velvet knot]

Anyway ring or chest?

[nocturne spindle]

yea if you dont get either in vault

[undone beacon]

not unless they myth boots

[rough egret]

wow Tome!

[warm plinth]

If you need chest for 4pc, chest

[plush tendon]

thats what Im doing

[warm plinth]

Otherwise ring

[frank crystal]

thats what i figure

[ocean iron]

bet

[plush tendon]

I dont raid and I dont think first boss myth is puggable just yet

[rough egret]

depends on pugs 😄

[plush tendon]

maybe it is?

[rough egret]

but this week is big power spike

[steady mason]

no tier in vault for the second week in a row 🙁

[rough egret]

spark and big vault

[warm plinth]

Big sadge. Sorry man

[cursive needle]

Do you guys change loot spec for vaults to weed out waste tank trinkets?

[lone hemlock]

What embellishment would we put on a weapon?

[sage sun]

is tome bis in keys this season?

[rough egret]

tome is bis yes

[velvet knot]

tome and pacemaker

[rough egret]

Tome and Brand

[warm plinth]

No, prot loot spec until you have shield and weapon (and preferably tome)

And brand if you raid

[rough egret]

will be available the story mode this week?

[cursive needle]

Ah. Tome is tank only. Yeah ok makes sense.

[rough egret]

for the Q?

[smoky pollen]

Yeah story mode is available this week

[nocturne spindle]

pacemaker brand is bis for keys right?

[wide charm]

Grinded for 3 days for a hero track helm and it finally dropped yesterday and I just went "you know what I'm gonna wait cus watch I get 3 helms in my vault"
Not 3, but did get 2. And 3rd item is trash.
Super glad I didn't send it for 4pc yesterday

[nocturne spindle]

pacemaker is basically just better tome dps wise currently

unles your going double single target trinkets

[rough egret]

ty

[nocturne spindle]

which idk maybe

[wide charm]

I mean all the crit from tome gives a fair amt of parry

[nocturne spindle]

but im pretty sure its pacemaker brand atm

[rough egret]

in keys you need ST

for bosses

brand covers aoe

tome ST

[undone beacon]

I mean, any combo of tome + pacemaker + brand is gonna be at the top

[rough egret]

true

[radiant axle]

Ah so if I have a shield in vault, I send spark 1 on a 1h and spark 2 on filling a slot? My embell is currently on my shield so I kinda need to move it to use the myth shield aha

[warm plinth]

As long as one is brand and the other is tome or pace, you're set

[rough egret]

big GZ

[warm plinth]

Yes, take shield (assuming myth), craft 1h, then generally embellishments or if you still have something giga low you you craft that

Embellishments aren't really the end of the world

[radiant axle]

I'm hoping with a big kidshield I wont feel like my life is flashing before my eyes on Nexus king tank buster tonight

[warm plinth]

A big ilevel increase will be more short term gson

Gain

[radiant axle]

I kinda want to craft onto my belt slot to ditch the fucking belt ngl

[rough egret]

you can use the 704 craft for embleish

[solid sun]

You just called them your grandson

[warm plinth]

How do you know he isn't

[radiant axle]

Thanks gpa

[warm plinth]

I could be a grandpa

[solid sun]

This is so wholesome

[naive panther]

does tome sim as sword mode? or do I need to manually change something like before?

[mint shadow]

if i can get 4pc tier with hero tier from vault, I should take that over mythic wrists, crit/haste ring, and void pacstone, right?

[rough egret]

yes 100% in sword mode

[warm plinth]

It Sims that you swap to sword as soon as possible when it's not on sword

[naive panther]

thanks, it isn't looking too hot sadly

was going to take it from vault

[radiant axle]

Oh the story mode free crest?

[rough egret]

yes

[rough egret]

its the best ST trinket

[naive panther]

k but for m+

i used tome all s2

[rough egret]

as we all did

[naive panther]

but was collossus now im thane

[warm plinth]

You still like tome for keys because ST is more important than aoe

[rough egret]

we still needs lot of crit

[naive panther]

still bis with pacemaker?

[rough egret]

brand, tome, pacemaker

[warm plinth]

Prio damage is king in keys. There's virtually always a higher health or more dangerous mob that needs to die

[naive panther]

aight I'll take it for the prio clap

[rough egret]

gz, you all take the good stuff.. my vaults gona have 3 belts there..

[naive panther]

my other option is pant or a nice neck, so thsoe are whatever I can get them later

[undone beacon]

@lusty grotto Bear vault update: God awful first vault. I wasted 15 gilded last week and now I get this... bear is cursed and dead

[old flame]

Delete your druid and level a new one tbh

[idle copper]

Will have a full mythic vault (+10s) is it worth it get full delve slots on the off chance their isnt any tier in the m+ slots?

[undone beacon]

at this rate im going to have to

[rough egret]

if you still need hero tier, yeah

[radiant axle]

Cries in no tier 🥲

[rough egret]

that was my vault last week

[mint shadow]

so 4pc hero tier > any mythic piece?

[rough egret]

got tokens for socket 😄

[radiant axle]

This week had no tier in it either, but I did get that cool shield so still winning today

[smoky pollen]

I think it depends, can you get 4 set without that hero tier?

[mint shadow]

nope

[undone beacon]

getting 4pc will be the single biggest power gain you can get right now

[smoky pollen]

Probably better to guarantee your 4p

[idle copper]

I have x2 tier tokens and a set of Hero tier trousers atm

[undone beacon]

if you dont think you can get 4pc through other methods this week, then send tier

[idle copper]

knowing my luck ill get toer trousers again

[mint shadow]

are we supposed to get a new catalyst charge this week?

[idle copper]

will smash the delves and hope for the best then :)

[undone beacon]

next week

[mint shadow]

dang

[undone beacon]

this week is crafting week

[heavy sparrow]

Semi trash vault

[undone beacon]

It goes spark -> charge -> spark -> charge

[rough egret]

ring

[undone beacon]

oooof

[solid sun]

I think I’m hard swapping to bear as an alt instead of brew. Brew is so not fun

[undone beacon]

das a hero ring

[rough egret]

oh yeah nwm..

if only you did not slack

😄

[undone beacon]

welcome to da cluuub welcome to da cluub

[rough egret]

bear is life

[smoky pollen]

Bear is the superior tank alt

No thought, just ironfur spam

[mint shadow]

i like bear but it feels like temu warrior sometimes 🤣

[solid sun]

In some ways it’s better than warrior

Like if you want to be cuddly

Bear def winning that category

[undone beacon]

Bear is great cuz (especially with EC) you can just kinda mentally afk

[smoky pollen]

Or if you like to sit on mage tables and hide it from your healer

Also elite

[undone beacon]

you wont do huge numbie but you wont die

[silk harbor]

Would you guys pick mythic non tier helm or hero tier gloves? i do not raid, only m+

[cedar egret]

i think its tier > all if you dont have 4set

[smoky pollen]

Tier gloves if it’s more likely to get you 4 piece this week

[solid sun]

Do you currently have any tier

[silk harbor]

no tier atm

[solid sun]

And do you currently have any cat charges

[smoky pollen]

Oh

Then I would actually consider that myth helmet more seriously

[silk harbor]

yeah have yet to use any cata charge

[smoky pollen]

If you have 0 tier rn and don’t raid you cannot get 4 set this week.

[silk harbor]

but if i take gloves i will be able to get 4pc next week vs week 5 if i get unlucky

[smoky pollen]

I also just considered that

But if you fill delves and dungeons slots the luck should be on your side for a single piece

[coarse kernel]

Should I prioritize Myth tier over a Myth 1h or Myth shield? Or do I take Weapon/Shield and craft the other? I have enough charges to get 4-set out of my bags

[solid sun]

What does story mode give you

Idr

[smoky pollen]

705 craft thing

[mental scarab]

720 crafting

[rough egret]

its the lower one not 720

[smoky pollen]

705

[mental scarab]

Why craft that🤔

[smoky pollen]

Runed thingy

[rough egret]

its free

[mental scarab]

Hu

How

When

[smoky pollen]

Because you were already going to kill Dimensius?

[late trellis]

I second this question, I'm thinking take the shield and then craft 2 embellished items

[rough egret]

take shield and craft weapon and another item

[late trellis]

thanks ❤️

[rough egret]

Myth track shield ofc 🙂

[late trellis]

crit mast for me, I don't think i'll replace it at all this season tbh, unless mythic gives me a shield no one needs for crit haste

but doubtful since my war is a split alt

[rough egret]

I mean you take shield from vault only when its Myth track so cappable of being upgraded to 723

[eternal oxide]

What is M+ Trinket Prio?

[rough egret]

Tome, Pacemaker and if you do raid - Brand is very good

[odd gyro]

what is more important: 4piece or weapon (already have 2 piece)?

[late trellis]

you think pushing title tome / pacemaker will be enough if you can't get brand? It seems they're both S tier per wowhead

but brand sims really high

[eternal oxide]

What about Sac?

[rough egret]

even HC brand will be enough

[mighty valley]

sacbrood sims so poorly for me, what's up there

[rough egret]

I have only Brand from Normal, and it slaps already, its my top 3 dmg

[fair tinsel]

Fairly new to playing Prot, genuine question here. I can either get 4pc from vault (+ my 2k catalyst charge) or a myth track Pacemaker. Is tier worth skipping the trinket?

[smoky pollen]

Yes (I confused myself)

Tier op

[mighty valley]

Tier is enormous BUT there are a lot of ways to get it this week, esp. if you have a spare catalyst charge

so it's just about whether you want to be powerful Right Now

[sleek mulch]

dumb question, what we opening vault as dps or prot

[mighty valley]

or if you want to take the rare trinket you might not see again, even if it won't make nearly as much of a difference right now

[fair tinsel]

Awesome, thank you guys. Appreciate it

[smoky pollen]

Prot

[plush tendon]

i opened as fury; I crafted a shield last week which I intend to use for a bit

[solid sun]

We open vaults as prot for shield, 1h, and tome

[plush tendon]

id rather have Idol over tome

[fluid merlin]

I also got the belt

[plush tendon]

is that a 1H?

[solid sun]

mhm

[cerulean kite]

So I’m at level 30 currently is there any specific gear/sets I should be going for moving forward? I already did the weekend event dungeons that gave level 80 gear

[sick whale]

yeah from eco dome

[shrewd grove]

At level 30? Nah, just focus on getting to max level

[peak iron]

thoughts on what i should do with this mostly garbage vault? im a dumb dumb and already crafted shield last week

[smoky pollen]

Probably tier if you can possibly get 4 set this week

[restive oak]

help me pick

[plush tendon]

cool shield, cool ring (thats haste crit yea?)

[smoky pollen]

Seems like a sim angle but the ring and brand are both strong options

[plush tendon]

you raid Mythic? theres a 1h off first boss

and a chest early as well for cata

[restive oak]

we will, but not yet

i have 4 set alrdy

maybe this week

[plush tendon]

sac is decent, and brand you can farm if you can clear heroic

[restive oak]

we clearing it today

[plush tendon]

so not really worth sending a vault on that

[restive oak]

yeah, its prolly dungeon row

[plush tendon]

tough decision... maybe wait till after raid? IDK

[restive oak]

probably

[plush tendon]

my gut tells me take the wep (thats haste/crit)

but sac could be good as well

but im meh on sac personally

[restive oak]

its pretty tough one

[cerulean kite]

Ahh okay and is there a specific rotation I should be using for my damage at this point? Q

[peak iron]

i could take shield but its a very minor upgrade from gilded craft shield, ring is haste vers but also its only hero track sadly

[plush tendon]

hit buttons, get to max, then worry about it

[shrewd grove]

Just press buttons brother. Whichever ones looks the most fun

[plush tendon]

take the loss and go for shield?

do you raid mythic?

[peak iron]

yeah might end up doing that, i dont raid mythic atm not sure how puggable loom will be this season

[cerulean kite]

having this be my first mmoarg and my finger placement feels so awkward

[plush tendon]

yea, I think its shield

first boss might take some time for pugs to get

[peak iron]

agreed

[plush tendon]

but IDK

the next two arent bad

crafting shield first week was always a risk

[tight mural]

okay, so i have 4set already, crafted shield last week. only myth option worth a damn is kind a shitty ring? is our second craft weapon?

[plush tendon]

which is why I went fury in my vault XD

to avoid shield

[peak iron]

yeah kinda wish i had done that but oh well too late now

[plush tendon]

the shield craft aint bad though

[peak iron]

would be nice if you could refund a craft and get like half a spark back

[plush tendon]

at some point it was going to happen

[modest lotus]

Hi gamers good morning and gl with vaults. I have some questions about sim APL that I've looked around for. Do we know if Tome of Light's Devotion sims without custom APL now? And does Brand of Ceaceless Ire sim correctly without custom APL? Or is there a custom APL somewhere we can use to sim them?

[neon elk]

Tome apl is build in now

[plush tendon]

im crafting wep this week; I dont raid and Im unsure if 1st boss is puggable

I may wait a bit before sending the craft though

see what the community is up to

[sleek mulch]

itll be puggable eventually, no idea how soon, pretty easy

[plush tendon]

yea, its not hard

[neon elk]

I cant pug 4th on HC doubt u will have much luck puging myth that early

[plush tendon]

but we know pugging adds +1 to difficulty

[sleek mulch]

indeed

[plush tendon]

its either this week or next week

[modest lotus]

thank you. any info on brand?

[plush tendon]

today was a huge power boost for people

vault+craft

[neon elk]

Not realy aware there is/was any special brand apl needed

[plush tendon]

and next week tier is basically guaranteed for people with a extra vault+cata

[modest lotus]

awesome thanks again. happy reset all!

[neon elk]

Yea those two weeks power spikes are real

[solid sun]

I can take myth track weapon or I can take tier and attempt 4pc if the raid is kind or I can craft a weapon and take myth track pacemaker

[fluid merlin]

I have hero shield and myth belt what should I craft for prot warrior

[solid sun]

Shield

[fluid merlin]

Why is shield so good if u dont mind me asking

[solid sun]

block

[lofty warren]

Someone get this post deleted from wowhead blizz gonna see it and shoot pwar behind the barn without any compensation I know it

[fluid merlin]

Also first time crafting anything in this game other than fiber is there anything I should know

[plush tendon]

they need to increase tank damage across the board

tanks be losing threat way too ez

through no fault of their own

[toxic pewter]

does ionizing strikes have an animation

[undone beacon]

Higher ilvl shield = more block value = less damage taken

[undone beacon]

Its pretty subtle, but there are 5 big ol lightning bolts that zap the target when it procs

Same as the lightning strike proc animation

[round pendant]

oops I screenshotted with all the numbers

[toxic pewter]

hmmm ok I need to look ffor them better

[round pendant]

Boys is my eco-dome route good enuf

[peak iron]

needs more pactspeakers

[plush tendon]

the sand crawlers at the end are pretty good

they did jack shit

and are like 1.3% each

[lunar flare]

We had one week being strong, that’s about as much as blizzard is happy with

[solid sun]

Honestly no, that route won't even complete the dungeon

You have to kill the last boss

[round pendant]

lmao

[plush tendon]

also, pull 16 is kind of aids

I would split that up with 15

can also pull trash onto last boss; grab one or two mobs

[round pendant]

yeah it was kinda brutal in the 10 we did but wasn't why we bricked it

[undone beacon]

imagine not pulling the whole room of 4 in one big giga pull, lame and bad

[round pendant]

we bricked on pull 4 cause bad

lmao

[solid sun]

Combine 1 and 2

Trust

[plush tendon]

id also add the other two homies into pull 4

[round pendant]

the phaseblades?

[restive oak]

i just do pull 1 and keep going

[solid sun]

Combine 1 and 2 and press incarn

Thrash and mf for days

[restive oak]

pull 1 and 2 and pretty much just chaining

[undone beacon]

how tho

[round pendant]

everyone died to floor shit twice

then I died

[restive oak]

skill issue

[round pendant]

lmao

yeah we established that

[plush tendon]

shit on the floor, the big guys shield breaks and they dont hard focus him after he gets below 50%

[undone beacon]

This is how ive been pulling eco-domes, been working smooth so far

[plush tendon]

I swear that last pull is just a terrible idea

[sick whale]

tip: you can pull these 2 dudes in your pull number 4

[undone beacon]

With a healer I trust i do both together, with a pug healer I split it and chain from 13

[undone beacon]

I could do that and cut the beetle from 12 but like, this puts me at 556/555 as is so not really needed

[sick whale]

so you going for the 100,00% lol

xd

[solid sun]

Cut the first pack after the second boss

[undone beacon]

always going for the perfect count

[solid sun]

And add the two to 4

What does that do to your count

[undone beacon]

542/555

the two phaseblades are 4 each, the pactspeaker is 18

Like it or not, they are good count

[desert mural]

i see some prot warrs crafting a weapon instead of a shield first, is that worth it?

[round pendant]

I feel like pactspeakers aren't worth

they're so slow

[undone beacon]

only thing worth more count are the big big beetles but fuck those

[sick whale]

I am holding on to that, I crafted the boots for me today, gonna see if I get heroic weapon or shield today, gonna do some eco domes to see

[molten ferry]

Im conflicted on what I should craft with 2 sparks.

I have mostly everything in hero slot.

I could craft bracers and shield for embellish and hopefully get 1H weapon from mythic in near future

My legs are hero tier atm

[undone beacon]

just send wep and shield like a man

[molten ferry]

😄

Like intuitavely this makes sense

[undone beacon]

if you dont craft a wep, one will never drop in raid. if you craft one, multiple will drop on the first kill

such is the way of hindsight

[round pendant]

pull 6 should be fine right

[sick whale]

those 3 warpstalkers

they're annoyng af

[solid sun]

@undone beacon impart your sage bear wisdom

[desert mural]

whats up with crafting a shield and not a weapon anyway, does it contribute as much for the dmg?

[odd gyro]

is getting a good weapon or getting 4 piece more important?

[undone beacon]

Not even a bear vault smh

Honestly, Pacemaker

[prime sphinx]

weapon more dmg, shield if u wanna be tankier for whatever reason

[solid sun]

"For whatever reason"

[undone beacon]

Shield is your single most important item as a warrior. The more block value you have, the less damage you take. The less damage you take, the more time you can spend hitting damage buttons

[shadow wagon]

would you guys rather take myth track tier or myth track light's devotion?

[round pendant]

holy

[prime sphinx]

lights devotion

[round pendant]

I've got THE route

[undone beacon]

Do you have 4pc or access to 4pc this week?

[undone beacon]

i h8 u

[round pendant]

I mean you have like 2 less pulls

[shadow wagon]

this week I could have 3pc if i use the catalyst charge

or 4pc if i pick the tier piece from vault

[undone beacon]

4pc is the single biggest damage boost you can get, but tome is also giga

[shadow wagon]

yeah like i'll get 4pc next week anyway

[undone beacon]

tome is harder to get at myth so

[prime sphinx]

clear raid first then pick

[shadow wagon]

but myth track tome i might never see again

[plush tendon]

you can always buy trinkets at the .5 patch

[real fossil]

pray for a drop and take the trinket, youll probably not see that trinket again

[plush tendon]

but there are cooler stuff imo

then tome

[round pendant]

can always get it the dinars that are coming right

[plush tendon]

but you prob want to buy the cantrip boots from raid

as one

[plush tendon]

then like, idk, brand?

[real fossil]

i mean thats pretty far away, and youd get 4 set way before that

[tribal wharf]

that weapon has haste and versa and a kind of nice model

[plush tendon]

and then you can choose a 3rd trinket or wep

[shadow wagon]

yeah but then I'm waiting several months vs 1 more week for 4pc

[real fossil]

^

[tribal wharf]

more of a paladin or spell caster weapon imho but

[shadow wagon]

i mean if i pugged heroic this week i could get 4pc anyway

but it's unlikely

[tribal wharf]

from its looks this is

[prime sphinx]

queue up lfr till u get barely any on ur token

bring friends too if u got any

[plush tendon]

thats what we did last week for our paladin friend

3 Hpals and 2 Resto Shamans get into lfr

~~steal ~~ acquire the tier

and dip

[late niche]

Hey all, we break s2 4p to get s3 2pc right?

[frosty mango]

i love new tier

4-5m overall so tasty

all the big booms

[undone beacon]

5 big booms

Getting back to back to back ionizing procs is so fucking satisfying

[neon elk]

How do i have to bribe for tier in vault ?

[shrewd grove]

No. 4pc for 4pc

[cursive needle]

No. You want 4 piece

I got a mythic track tome boys!!!! Lets goo!!!

[woven radish]

And that's why we wait like 3 days lol

[woven radish]

That weapon tho!

[late niche]

so we keep old 4pc tier until we get the WHOLE new 4pc? thats seems crazy

[cursive needle]

Correct.

[cursive needle]

2 piece is ok for ST. 4 piece is necessary for M+

[undone beacon]

be a man and craft cloak

reject reshii

return to crafted cloak

[woven radish]

Retvrn

[rough egret]

which class plays verse mastery?

[prime sphinx]

some rogue spec i think

[late niche]

sub

[rough egret]

finished my pug raid and found boe hero ring in mailbox with those stats..

[dense cradle]

fury can i think?

[neon elk]

Brm also as they play anything but haste iirc

[half jewel]

Got me a myth tier helm. No hero wep yet and I threw a spark on bracers w/ free crest. What do you guys think is worth more. Shield craft at 720 or belt? I think I can hold out for a wep from raid or M+

[neon elk]

Defo shield before belt

But u should also craft wep before wrists

[peak iron]

um it was actually like 4 days wouldve been a whoooole different ballgame than just 3 days no one could wait that long

[half jewel]

shoulda but i sent it without thinking too hard about it last week lol

[woven radish]

🤣

[neon elk]

If u dont plan to mythic raid this week, just send it on shield , way more important than belt ( and can put same embelish on both so no difference)

[half jewel]

We might do mythic but if we do it would be like 1 boss maybe 2. We should kill H Dim tho

[neon elk]

2 mythic is all u need as there are both wep and shield on them afaik

[half jewel]

I guess I'll find out tonight what the plan is and then save the craft or send it depending on RL says

[ocean iron]

what embelish on wep if we craft it

or just stat on shield

[rough egret]

isnt there just one option for weapon?

[undone beacon]

can throw ascension on wep

[neon elk]

There is more of them tho, but i think ascension is best still

[mighty valley]

i still just do threads on other slots

[neon elk]

Yea but if u have no other slots crafted why not put it on wep in meantime

[lunar flare]

For the tome trinket, could I just macro it to avatar? Or is that stupid?

[undone beacon]

dont do that

[mighty valley]

nope - you want to be switching it into sword mode

[undone beacon]

use the WA

[lunar flare]

What the heck is sword mode

[mighty valley]

it has two modes

offensive and defensive

defensive mode is not impressive

[undone beacon]

its explained in the pins

[lunar flare]

I will investigate

[mighty valley]

the activation switches its mode

[rough egret]

true

[lunar flare]

Oh so use isn't a thing u actually...use

Just to swap the mode

Wow I'm dense

Good job I have my friends here at the skyhold discord to help me

[mighty valley]

it takes a village

[undone beacon]

yeah you only use it to swap to sword mode, you want to maximize sword time

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/nubby-nubby's-number-factory-nubbys-number-factory-pet-nub-gif-10828535552509613360

[lunar flare]

Good because who wants to read 50 pages whilst being hit LOL NOT ME

Reading is for nerds

[undone beacon]

warrios cant read anyways

[lunar flare]

Exactly

[undone beacon]

honestly though the immersion of the trinket is funny, like I'm taking hits and shrugging blows and slamming the ground with lightning while reading my bible

My headcanon is that its glued to the inside of my shield

[mighty valley]

"there's GOTTA be an answer in this book somewhere"

[undone beacon]

"and if that don't work, use more sword"

[lunar flare]

is this a team fortress 2 reference

[undone beacon]

yes

[lunar flare]

Nice

[undone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-tf2engineer-use-a-gun-and-if-that-dont-work-gif-17911768

[lunar flare]

I remember when that game was good

Pre-hats

[undone beacon]

engineer from tf2 as wow class when

[lunar flare]

New support spec

[undone beacon]

would kill a man for a tinker class

i like Ascensions take on one

rich get richer, congrats

[arctic tangle]

oh no

[ruby musk]

Lol

[half jewel]

damn nice but hard to pick

[undone beacon]

some men drown while the rest die of thirst

[torpid dome]

would you guys do 1x tank trink 1x offencve trinket?

[undone beacon]

huh

pacemaker is still giga

[solid sun]

Pacermaker is yuge

[flat tundra]

complete opposite XD

[frosty mango]

Why would we take a tank trinket when we’re not tanks

[torpid dome]

kek

[flat tundra]

its literally socket or hero crit haste neck

[undone beacon]

Antenna is not strictly better though

[dense cradle]

People here acting like you’d give feather to a tank

before a dps

also, guaranteed crit on opener is always nice

instead of hoping for proc

pacemaker is effectively a pseudo on use trinket

[desert hinge]

man feels bad when wrist slot sims highest out of vault

[undone beacon]

Pace+Brand or Tome+Brand is gonna be the go-to trinket choice

[desert hinge]

here let me don my bracelet :3

[dense cradle]

brand damage is illegal

if it doesnt get hit

[solid sun]

Until Brand gets nerfed

Then maybe back to tome plus pace

[undone beacon]

nah brand is safe because i said so

untouchable

in fact, im predicting that gamescom is going to announce a buff to brand

[solid sun]

Anyways

If you wanted to say tome > pace I wouldn't argue with you

But I also wouldn't say pace is meh

That's where I draw the line

[dense cradle]

didnt tome and pace eat the same kind of nerf

10% iirc

[undone beacon]

I'd pick tome over pace because i also raid but

[solid sun]

And some people need pacemakers. It's an important piece of medical equipment

[dense cradle]

I honestly expected them to hit tome much harsher at the start of s2

because tanks having fun is not allowed

[weary frigate]

how do you sim for prot? just dmg sim obv

[frosty mango]

Yeah can’t overstate how important pacemaker is from saving me from the heart attack dps give me daily

[shrewd grove]

Same way you sim for DPS specs

[weary frigate]

i dont play the dps specs. first season playing warrior

[dense cradle]

i mean its the same as you sim for any dps

[shrewd grove]

Go to raidbots. Enter your character. Quick sim

[weary frigate]

man you guys certainly are weirdos. classes sim differently. but w/e

[cerulean kite]

is there a way to reduce all the visual clutter or is it meant to be

[shrewd grove]

They don't, though? What are you asking for here? Because every class uses the same sims

If you are simming for dps

[steady mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFpHIAe_MS4&t=1s
Quazii explains the different settings to optimize M+ fps/readability

[shrewd grove]

Quazii is the GOAT

[rancid sedge]

on forgeweaver araz the pillars order is always the same or need to check to see each one have more energy?

[azure crag]

when do we replace the delve belt? Is it just a heroic piece?

[rough egret]

sim

[dense cradle]

except they dont

[rancid sedge]

when u get 710 gear one

[dense cradle]

only healers are weirdos and use QE

[vocal owl]

Hello! What is best to craft if I wanna play prot and arms? A 2 hand for Saving crest in n 1 hand and shield or a pice both specs Can use?

[lofty warren]

On last boss of arakara I couldn't get away from her suck so I pushed spell reflect and didn't die. Why I not die from her suck?

[fleet flicker]

some do, on assa for instance you sim dungeon slice apparently which confused the hell out of me

[dense cradle]

nah you just sim patchwerk

[neon elk]

Probably a low key where its not lethal to us

[lofty warren]

It was a plus 8

[dense cradle]

m+ers out here simming for 1% gains to then int the key 3 minutes in

[fleet flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1407179540182339594/Statn.gif

[lunar flare]

This isn't #arms

[undone beacon]

its not an instakill, but it does a lot of damage and gives you a big heal and damage done reduction so

can live might you might still be fucked

[old flame]

Give you like 75%+ damage taken or something

[rough egret]

just leap out

ez

[lofty warren]

In eco domed after boss 1 there are guys that give you frontal and some purple debuff. I had 2x of them and it was doing a hole bunch of damage even though reflect and shield wall and ignore pain. Is there any fix?

[neon elk]

Dont pull 2 if u cant handle them?

[dense cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-no-gif-23142380

this?

[lofty warren]

Hmm but what is that purple shit they give you?

[lunar flare]

They got buffed AND no discord lockout, true sigmas

[rough egret]

wow Liquid is extending?

[lilac widget]

guys is the all devouring nucleus as good as bomb suit?

[rough egret]

its not

its different type of trinket

[lunar flare]

Probs spooked by echo's progress and they feel they can just split run/m+ any new gear they need I guess

[lofty warren]

Did they increase the % enemies requirement for spider dungeon by like 25% i did my normal route and was only at like 85%. Same with HOA

[solid sun]

The games thing is about to start right

[lunar flare]

Yes

But no knowing when WoW is being shown during it

[jagged gust]

games thing?

[lunar flare]

Gamescomm

Midnight reveal

[quaint rune]

whats the strat, craft weapon (no emblishment) or craft a embleshment armor piece?

[rough egret]

Midnight cinematic

[lunar flare]

Then a couple panels about new systems/zones etc

2 hours from now

[rough egret]

shield>weapon>embelisment

[lofty warren]

These new m+ mob percents are a knightmare

[steady mason]

theres the pull, then the suck in ~1s left.... if you leap out after that suck you dont need to root yourself in a puddle

[quaint rune]

thats what i thought, rip my 600crit lol

[jagged gust]

If you're not running mythic raid already, crafting is a lot more vibe based

[quaint rune]

just a pug tank bricken ppls 6 keys

[jagged gust]

if you have a low ilvl shield, craft a shield, if you have a low ilvl weapon, craft a weapon, if your helmet sucks, go for a helmet, eventually you'll have every single piece that isn't tier or trinket crafted

embellishments aren't worth much consideration, just slap something somewhere

[undone beacon]

thats what they used to do to me at parties

[jagged gust]

Grant O'Brian vibes

[shrewd grove]

https://tenor.com/view/licking-the-plate-no-table-manner-delicious-grant-o-brien-gluttony-gif-12250908

[solid sun]

Dude has the wildest stories

[undone beacon]

I wish i was Grant O'Brian, what a creature he is

[lilac widget]

have any dragon tanks tried jumping over the beams on pluexus sentinel?

[solid sun]

I can’t believe Brennan Lee Mulligan quit

To make shoes for great American dolls

[shrewd grove]

I'm glad he's choosing to be happy

[solid sun]

Important to follow your bliss

[granite pond]

So is 2pc/2pc fine or are we waiting for 4pc before swapping? I've had terrible vault luck and I'm getting antsy!

[cursive needle]

2p is ok for ST. 4p is necessary for m+

[granite pond]

I guess the new 2pc sits in my bags then, alas

[cursive needle]

If you can get 2k you can snag another catalyst charge.

[granite pond]

I have that, I would literally be catalzying 2 items just to get 2pc (though at least one of them is mythic). Like I said, terrrrrrible luck so far

[cursive needle]

I did two champ pieces and two hero pieces. 4p is way more important than ilvl. (To a point).

[granite pond]

yeah, we raid casually on fridays so if i get 2pc from that, then I'll do it

[cursive needle]

Nice! It’s insane in keys. When the stars align with good procs I can hit 12 / 13 m dps. It’s awesome 😎

Pushing one button lol

[granite pond]

you're just making me sadder! lol

[fluid merlin]

Do I need gilded augmentation matrix to craft a 720?

trying to craft the shield rn for the first time got all the mats rank 3

[civic moon]

trinket is pog

8%,im not even sure i had the dps thing all the time on boss fight

last boss tazavesh

[granite pond]

you need the enchanted gilded ethereal crest that you buy from the vendor for 60 gilded crests, yes

[civic moon]

streets

[fluid merlin]

oh so this other 30 crest item is not needed for a 720?

[fluid merlin]

that trinket is S tier

[chilly brook]

just wait until you get ire lmao

[restive oak]

i may be leaning toward the weapon over the sac i think, sac is nice, but it's not simming that greatest of trinkets i would want in that slot

[azure crag]

I could craft a mythic belt...and have 30 gilded crests left over for upgrading my myth track weapon.
Or
I could shove 75 gilded crests into my myth weapon and craft a belt next week

[restive oak]

the second is probably more optimal

weapon is bigger gains

[azure crag]

It is...even if my belt would finally get me my second embellishment, it's probably better to wait

I could use that free runed crest I have instead

[restive oak]

yeah, gotta get some use out of that, it's not as nice now that crafting crests are cheaper

[rough egret]

I somehow forgets that it needs spark too 😄

But in your case it can be usefull, not replacing belt but a wrists maybe

[granite pond]

I spent a good 5 minutes thinking of what to craft with the runed crafting item you get from the quest chain before i remember it took a spark lol

[raw parcel]

Well, got the four set, and can confirm mountain thane slaps hard now 😄

[fluid merlin]

How big of damage increase is 4 set?

should I hold my sparks?

[mighty valley]

it is very big

[granite pond]

you're probably crafting shield/weapon so it won't interact with tier

unless you got lucky with vault or raid mythic

[fluid merlin]

So the 2 set to 4 set is big dps increase?

cause only got 2 set rn

[cedar egret]

it is pretty massive

[bleak parcel]

thats how it usually goes

[fluid merlin]

Might have to wait till next week to get it sadly did full normal raid no drops

[raw parcel]

Very big.

[fluid merlin]

I did craft the 720 shield tho ty everyone here

[raw parcel]

Big enough that the colossus set bonus probably needs a buff to be even slightly competitive.

[glacial lynx]

Back to back Mythic Tome in my first Mythic cache

but ill have to farm a hero helm for 4 set

[humble rose]

Prior to Tier set, what's the tankiest hero tree? I was thinking MT because of the excess rage and IP spam

[mighty valley]

there's not an enormous difference

thane gets more IP it's true, but colossus gets bigger gains from bv due to more damage, plus gets to run IO for mini shield walls

[jagged gust]

I miss the mini shield walls

And the incentive to press shield wall

[raw finch]

Ive been hearing embellishments arent that big of a dps increase I already have crafted shield and my MH is 691 . Is crafting MH over a 2nd embellishment a bad idea?

[mighty valley]

mh is probably more impactful but you can sim this

[frozen berry]

Wep Ilvl increases the damage of all of your abilities, so wep is prob the biggest dps upgrade

[fluid merlin]

After u craft a 720 whats the other highest ilvl thing u can craft this week?

[mighty valley]

all crafts follow the same rules for ilvl

[fluid merlin]

So technicially we can have both 720 shield and 720 mh this week?

[mighty valley]

yep

[fluid merlin]

wow okay ima do that

[frosty mango]

Did they buff arms yet

[timid crater]

Recommendations? Only myth track item is shield with crit/mastery so kinda meh. I have zero tier pieces at present. Go for two piece with catalyst?

[frosty mango]

Shield hands down

[fluid merlin]

For sure myth shoulders I think

[frosty mango]

IMO

[jagged pier]

u take shield

there is nothing better

[frosty mango]

Those are heroic shoulders