it'll get the nerf soon im sure
#protection
lusty grotto
im not 100% sure on that, probably
chrome falcon
post logs if you have, we are very tanky atm
10s were doing almost no damage to us day 1 with like 685 ilvl
azure crag
Indeed, having come from blood dk, prot warrior feels so tanky its almost like cheating
lusty grotto
do not give your back to mobs
still crown
Man idk what im doing wrong i might be regarded
Probably not getting shield block up quick enough
chrome falcon
^ good intel
lusty grotto
thats warrior's worst enemy
undone beacon
Something something backshots uwu
undone beacon
hehehehe
azure crag
Much like in real life, letting an opponent get behind you is the fastest way to end up on the floor
modest glen
Is there a way to slow em down like bdks dnd or ppalls consecration?
lusty grotto
your tclap slows
azure crag
Thunderclap has a free 40% slow
modest glen
Ahh
azure crag
wait, its 50?
mine says 40
lusty grotto
modest glen
Jus keep shield block up, spend rage on ignore pain the gist for survivability?
rancid sedge
How much dps increase on aoe from 2pc to 4pc anyone knew?
undone beacon
Jus keep shield block up, spend rage on ignore pain the gist for survivability?
Shield block up, mobs in front of you, spend rage on IP if you’re close to rage cap
modest glen
Should u not just always cap IP?
undone beacon
I miss the like, week and a half on PTR where Colossus was doing giga heals
rancid sedge
10-12s is so easy right now for tanks, I'm tanking enrage mobs like it's nothing
undone beacon
Should u not just always cap IP?
No. If you’re playing properly IP will be maintained well enough
rancid sedge
10-12s is so easy right now for tanks, I'm tanking enrage mobs like it's nothing
With execute build
modest glen
Shield bash main rage generator right
lusty grotto
shield SLAM
undone beacon
You get free IP through Violent Outburst, plus Colossus gives you bigger IP and Thane you have a ton of rage to dump
modest glen
undone beacon
He’ll break ur femur
lusty grotto
only the common ones
neon elk
Commom femur?
solid sun
It’s not even close to a bash
lusty grotto
ye lommatik
solid sun
A much more pristine fighting style utilizes slams
modest glen
Are the builds in the faq still relevant or shud i jus copy the wowhead one
neon elk
Glad mine are rare , im safe
lusty grotto
either is fine
bleak breach
I remember why I hate pugging
undone beacon
Why do pug healers constantly let me die to the dispellable dot in floodgate
south zealot
fuckem
bleak breach
Went into a 11 priory, got to caster pack. DK cleaves onto another pack, has 0 interrupts for the pull. We wiped, he complains the pull was too big and left.
lusty grotto
lmao choco
undone beacon
I get you need to dispel the lightning debuff on dps but uhhhh
I’d rather a dps die than the tank kthanks
lusty grotto
i had wendys today, thought of you bb
bleak breach
Are the builds in the faq still relevant or shud i jus copy the wowhead one
Wowhead build is good
lusty grotto
thats good too
dusky canopy
Those spicy nugs go hard man
undone beacon
So real for that
lusty grotto
i see i see
dusky canopy
Fuck yeah W!
dusky canopy
My wife’s doing one meal a day (dinner) and she’s down 65
undone beacon
That’s huge, awesome man
dusky canopy
Across about 7-8 months
lusty grotto
holy cow
dusky canopy
Started in January
lusty grotto
thats pretty good
south zealot
hell yeah
undone beacon
Is there a consistent meal plan for those dinners?
south zealot
i started febuary last year and got to like 95 down a couple months ago but plateaud there bc i would drink hella lmao
crimson furnace
just got this
undone beacon
Im trying to slim back down after starting a cushy work from home desk job and being not very active LOL
Been hitting the gym again
crimson furnace
feelig happy, wondering for how long it wil last :))
undone beacon
Little at a time
dusky canopy
For the first about 5 months she would try to do 10k steps in a day about half of it on a walking pad the other half during work
No weight training for her (her choice)
south zealot
i work at a restaurant so i get like 10k steps a day naturally
dusky canopy
Consistency is all it takes! Anyone can do it. Willpower is the hard part
dusky canopy
i work at a restaurant so i get like 10k steps a day naturally
Yeah that’s perfect!
lusty grotto
😮
azure crag
is it better to put our second embellishment on our bracers, or belt?
Trying to decide what to put my blacksmithing knowledge toward
undone beacon
is it better to put our second embellishment on our bracers, or belt?
Trying to ...
the deciding factor is usually which piece you get a myth track in first
Otherwise it doesnt matter
azure crag
ah, that makes sense. I'll just save the points until a couple weeks from now then
undone beacon
Yeeee
Embellishments provide the same amount of bonus regardless of the slot, all that matters is ilvl
mighty valley
embellishments aren't that big for us and even less so in the last season of the expac
obv it's free real estate to have two but
don't stress about em
lone hemlock
Similar wise on the embellishment, I figure I'm making a shield as my first craft, but would I be better off making a 720 weapon or my second embellishment on belt/bracers?
kind urchin
So much group damage in a 13 priory. My healer was sweatin.
And we definitely went left so on the first boss I was sweatin.
modest glen
Whats best pwarr guide vid now? Yodas?
ashen kestrel
on my vdh but still HUGE - had one on from last season that was 665
cursive needle
Whats best pwarr guide vid now? Yodas?
I like quazi’s stuff.
ashen kestrel
Whats best pwarr guide vid now? Yodas?
Depends on how youre coming into the class - I find Yodas guide to be better if you have more experience, either with prot warrior or with another tank
ashen kestrel
I like quazi’s stuff.
I second this that Quaziis is very good, usually covers all the basics pretty well
distant thicket
is bloodsurge better than rng ravage
mighty valley
don't think so?
west ferry
hi guys, new player here
what should I craft using this?
pallid quiver
If you're a very new player, you'll want to look up the crafting system as a whole
Since you can craft it at even higher ilvls
If you're just looking for the slot, shield is our strongest individual piece if you can't get a myth track shield. Though you'd prefer to wait to see what you get in vault
west ferry
I'll look into the crafting system, I just saw in a video that I should use it to craft something and I didn't know what
Just started playing last week still trying to get my bearings
pallid quiver
Yeah, basically, it can be used for bad luck protection or getting an item with a craft only effect. The craft only effect isn't that meaningful, though, so you can safely disregard that until you get your bearings
hardy snow
first time p3 with pugs, not bad
warm plinth
is bloodsurge better than rng ravage
Not remotely, no
lament osprey
west ferry
also I got an adventure level head piece should I transform it into a tier piece since I already have 1 I can use the 2 piece effect?
pallid quiver
You only get tier set piece charges once every two weeks
west ferry
I got one from the quest
pallid quiver
So generally, you want to save it for pieces you'll keep for a while
west ferry
ah, alright I'll keep it until I get something higher ilvl
lunar flare
Protection warrior
undone beacon
Protection warrior
Nah
jaunty aspen
hi just got a wpn wearing 704 wpn why cant i upgrade the new one for 0 crests?
mortal cypress
Is it for 2hander?
paper crypt
How much does tank damage matter in raid? If I'm getting aggro off another tank just by doing twice his damage, does he need to step it up or should I do less?
fallow nova
If your damage is causing problems for other people, they are the problem.
fallow nova
Colossus seems to be a smidge better with no 4pc, but not to the point where thane is bad. Might be worth getting your muscle memory down for thane's playstyle.
I'm on 2pc and playing thane just because enh shammys ain't got nothing on these sparky sparks
frosty mango
without new tier
Colossus will perform much better with the old tier set
west ferry
I am ilvl 670 can I start doing m0 and manaforge to start gathering some gear?
I don't want to be a hinderance
mighty valley
How much does tank damage matter in raid? If I'm getting aggro off another tank ...
if there’s like a 30 ilvl gap or something and your cotank isn’t great then you might need to ease off the gas sometimes
but ideally the higher damage tank just goes first, unloads cooldowns, then the other tank catches up with the first taunt swap and everything’s ok
mighty valley
I am ilvl 670 can I start doing m0 and manaforge to start gathering some gear?
yes that’s plenty
civic moon
I am ilvl 670 can I start doing m0 and manaforge to start gathering some gear?
you cann do +6 even
maybe
i did a +6 at 672 i think might be wrong
paper crypt
if there’s like a 30 ilvl gap or something and your cotank isn’t great then you ...
I have 11 ilvls on him and we are both prot warriors, but I'm high purple parsing and he's gray parsing with half my DPS so I keep stealing aggro off him.
lyric loom
is it frowned upon pulling any of the slashers in halls?
ashen kestrel
is it frowned upon pulling any of the slashers in halls?
No there’s 2 in my route, although they’re both after the first boss. One just before second boss and one in the room before 3rd
Sorry there’s 3
I pull the one with the 5 pack in the middle of the first boss arena too
lyric loom
they seem to get butt pulled every pug im in anyways lol
ashen kestrel
Yeah I imagine it’ll happen a lot early on until people get used to knowing where to stand to avoid them
ashen kestrel
It always fucks me up when people pull them too because you need so much count in there that I can’t figure out what I can skip
deft mortar
Witnessed my cursed trinket stack
lyric loom
yeah i always end up having to go back and getting 3-4%
wide charm
30 keys later... still trying for a hero tier helm so I can cata it and get 4pc... which I could have gotten 4 days ago -_-
I really hate that the 2k token wasn't a vendor this season
mighty valley
I have 11 ilvls on him and we are both prot warriors, but I'm high purple parsin...
Bring him here, he’s capable of learning
rich dragon
ok to macro Tome to Avatar or nah?
warm plinth
ok to macro Tome to Avatar or nah?
No, because you only want to use it when it's on shield, not on CD
quiet monolith
whats looking good so far? i only have time for one character... prot war/prot pal/ brew?
rich dragon
ah ok first ime using it, ill get a WA to track it
All 3 it seems for the highe end stuff
lyric loom
woot finally can make my shield
lusty grotto
finally got rid of this garbanzo board
cursive needle
I am simming a priory 10 here, Raidbots is telling me to swap gems. I am hesitant considering mastery is not great for us. Do I follow this to a T? should i take this with a grain of salt?
lusty grotto
I am simming a priory 10 here, Raidbots is telling me to swap gems. I am hesitan...
we dont sim mdt
5target 1.5 min sims for aoe
the APL isnt optimized for MDT
or hectic cleave, or dungeon whatever
also
mastery is good
lower prio does not mean you wont equip it
cursive needle
Ok good to know. I have been getting conflicting info. I'll run some more sims
restive jackal
Hello guys, first what is good shield or weapon?
lusty grotto
crafted shield
shield > weapon > embelishments
unless if you can get a myth track shield and/or weapon
reliably
restive jackal
Oki thanks
round pendant
how the fuck are people like 703 ilvl
I really love not being given any drops I can actually equip
keep getting legs, chest, helm, gloves
all of which I need for my tier til I get 4p
chrome falcon
full 701 from m+ plus crafted shield plus sending some crest upgrades
tulip pumice
Anyone else having trouble skipping commander Zo'far in streets. i don't remember having this much trouble back in Shadow lands?
warm plinth
You can still skip him but you have to alter the method a tiny bit
Most people still trying to skip him the SL way and it doesn't really work
tulip pumice
https://youtube.com/shorts/HOq7gQsdAF0?si=ARabZcmc1cjYB5Hn
Thank you! 
warm plinth
why's that
frosty mango
https://youtube.com/shorts/HOq7gQsdAF0?si=ARabZcmc1cjYB5Hn
I linked a video the other day based on what you showed
native ember
do we get a catalyst charge tomorrow ?
frosty mango
Blizz gonna nerf this lol
warm plinth
no
frosty mango
do we get a catalyst charge tomorrow ?
No
native ember
fuck
warm plinth
Blizz gonna nerf this lol
You know, if you said that prior to S2, I'd have said why would they change it after all this time. But then they changed the KUJO box.
tulip pumice
You know, if you said that prior to S2, I'd have said why would they change it a...
with the increase in time on the dungeon, its possible?
warm plinth
Yeah, though tbh I don't even know how common skipping it that way will be. After all, meld pot is a thing now.
Because Blizzard likes to make sense
solid sun
how do we feel about the RWF so far this season
warm plinth
I think Echo might actually pull it out this time
mortal cypress
pretty good, method overtaking liquid for a while was cool
warm plinth
Kind of insane too when you consider Method was the last of the three into the raid
solid sun
Yeah they're having a good showing
Liquid back on top but it doesn't really look like Saladbar is doable this reset
paper crypt
Sa'lami is one of my favorite key bosses
regal estuary
what slot are we least after when it comes to tier options
I've got a omni token and turning it in
warm plinth
Chest
It's not an omni token though; it's just a catalyst charge
oh nvm, you mean from raid
Ignore me
regal estuary
alright, I got that one randomly so no sweat 🙂
mighty valley
it's chest on the bis list, right
for a hero token, probably just sim whichever is better
or grab the biggest haste one you don't have if your haste is low
warm plinth
Yeah chest just has the least optimal stats
late hawk
warm plinth
It increases while in combat, so the longer you can stay in combat, the better it is. So depending on sim length, it may not even reach maximum stacks
And ofc it's best on 5 targets
lone current
Anyone done/attempted HM taz yet?
lusty grotto
some guildies did and mentioned its not that hard
they did fail though
so could be a meme
jagged gust
mail boss was pretty sketch
shrewd grove
Its not that hard to do, but its hard to do deathless. Just so many moments where one mistake is insta death
lone current
Yeah kk. Gonna run it with my group before reset and was hearing people say it way overtuned and impossible to finish, but sounds like that might be abit over exaggerated.
frigid plume
it's definitely not impossible but one shotting the dragon boss seems very difficult
drowsy shale
wasnt too bad
we got through without a death but lust each boss and higher end dps for sure takes some of the difficulty out of it
def be very achievable next week with the extra spark/gilded coming through, still get a bit checked this week
sick grotto
I like the hooktail boss fun tank fight. Pretty hard to pull it back when stuff goes wrong. Good thing prot warrior absolutely pumps in single target its like having another dps so hopefully hm taz is not too bad
rigid hull
we are surely getting nerfed right ? xdd
dense cradle
we are surely getting nerfed right ? xdd
spec is fine wdym
rigid hull
really
dense cradle
if you're competing with a dps
rigid hull
thats nice to hear
dense cradle
they suck
rigid hull
ye
dense cradle
lusty grotto
yeah we already got nerfed
dense cradle
alot of players i question wtf they're doing
sick grotto
Unsure what other tanks single target dmg is
dense cradle
when i see them press one global per 3-4 seconds
sick grotto
But prots is really strong
dense cradle
isnt spear's highend better
mighty valley
play with spear?
You
also here's someone who's done a 15 with spear https://raider.io/characters/eu/silvermoon/Móonys
azure crag
My guild and I finally beat Tazavesh Hard mode!
After 4 hours of pure, unfiltered Pain.
rigid hull
isnt execute only replacing revenge when we get 4 piece? i feel like using it outside of that is dps loss since it means less TB procs
lusty grotto
isnt execute only replacing revenge when we get 4 piece? i feel like using it ou...
no
it only replaces revenge below 6-7 targets
at that target count or below, you execute
at above that target count you revenge
it has nothing to do with tier
rigid hull
lofty turret
anyone know an updated S3 spell reflect weak aura
lusty grotto
we were doing one for an alt, so dps wasnt the best
lofty turret
IM not geting promps for some bosses in Halls and also still running s2 shit
lusty grotto
he left literally 1 pull away from completing
fucking dick of a person
going to bed on a sour note
rigid hull
and to minmax execute i should use it either at 2 charges / sudden death ending / all spells cooldown right @lusty grotto
and under 20% hp to dump full rage
i cant just use sudden death when i get it it feels wrong
ionic fern
Sudden Death is a full power execute regardless of health.
rigid hull
Sudden Death is a full power execute regardless of health.
YY i meant when ads get under 20% i should also prio dumping rage
ionic fern
Yes,if they enemies are in execute threshold you use that instead of Revenge. You still prioritize your rage generators even during that time.
What is?
azure crag
I did not know avatar broke all roots and snares on use until Tazevesh hard mode
ionic fern
Kinda hard to get any real information from that image without analyzing the logs. 
ionic fern
I did not know avatar broke all roots and snares on use until Tazevesh hard mode
It's in the tooltip.
But good you discovered it.
azure crag
It's in the tooltip.<a:congaparrot:393577975494475776>
I did read that tooltip.
And I saw "Increases damage by 20%"
And did not read any further lmao
ionic fern
I did read that tooltip.
And I saw "Increases damage by 20%"
And did not read an...
True warrior way of reading things.
azure crag
It was only because of a random proc when I was snared by the menagerie boss and thought I was done for that I learned avatar broke roots.
calm hinge
New to tanking since group put me on it any tips literally leveled and geared my first warr like 3 days ago and never tanked b4
ionic fern
This one is better
Kinda too wide area to go by.
@calm hinge
Maybe you got some specifics you struggling with?
calm hinge
Maybe you got some specifics you struggling with?
Probably but haven't figured it out yet
Rn I'm juggling a lot since the rotation and ignore pain spam isn't in my muscle memory
So I need to think about allat while thinking about routes and such
ionic fern
Be sure you are learning the proper rotation then.
- Rage generators > Rage spenders.
- Use IP to dump Rage ( it's off the GCD). You never want to waste any Rage.
- Keep Shield Block up and ALWAYS face your enemies.
- Use Revenge as a offensive Rage dump when Shield Slam / TC are on CD.
- Use Execute instead of Revenge on up to 6 targets in AoE if talented into Heavy Handed.
elfin cosmos
hi, which talents do the most dmg in keys ?
ionic fern
MT(if you have 4p) paired with Execute talents.
elfin cosmos
this is my talents rn and I'm 4p, can i somehow upgrade it to more dmg or that's it ?
elfin cosmos
i don't think if those builds are 100% dmg focus
dense cradle
you say that
ionic fern
That one is more than your current one. 🙂
dense cradle
while not having massacre
fresh belfry
if you pick the talent that makes execute cleave, maybe look out for talents that make execute deal more damage 👍
dense cradle
or execute dam
lusty grotto
We doing a hall of shame?
That asshole deserves it. All that was left was 1 pull and boss and the fucker stopped healing me on that very last pull, I had to check logs cause I noticed I was rotting on it.
ionic fern
Should make a website with all the leavers in m+. Then make a addon that checks the website and informs pt leader if they are a leaver.
Then put Patreon on it.
Then adds
Easy money
jagged pier
i mean bliz i supposed to be doing that themselves
thought it was this season but apprently not
lusty grotto
I asked him if he could do the last 2 after for me since I still need pace and the fellas he left and he just sassed and say 'nope I'm not one of the fellas"
I mean I get where you're going with this mwahi, I know it's brigadable and all that but it just pisses me off
blazing condor
What is defined as a leaver
And how long are you branded
Say you legit lose ur internet connection
lusty grotto
It's not in yet
still crown
Say you legit lose ur internet connection
Pay for better internet. Or use 5g hotspot if you go down
lusty grotto
If the key is started and you don't go through the leave vote you're branded
blazing condor
Pay for better internet. Or use 5g hotspot if you go down
lusty grotto
If you leave when the key started, I mean
lusty grotto
It resets
blazing condor
Thats kinda what i was wondering
lusty grotto
It just affects people that do it repeatedly
lusty grotto
You can't avoid it but that's very easily reportable
On both sides of the fence
Same goes for a rager that wipes the group repeatedly to get an abandon vote
I just don't think your example would happen often, people don't like to waste time
Especially not on week 1
Anyway madge bedge
blazing condor
Nah im not tryna say its a bad system or anything
Just curious how it was thought out
Because its not straight forward
calm hinge
Be sure you are learning the proper rotation then.
- Rage generators > Rage spe...
How viable would it be for me to use one button while I try to learn the other parts first
blazing condor
Its good to punish leavers like wih any other game
calm hinge
Also opinion on shield wall charge macro so I don't get fucked in the ass the second I pull b4 I have rage
jagged pier
How viable would it be for me to use one button while I try to learn the other p...
not at all as our button one presses nothing actually important
ionic fern
How viable would it be for me to use one button while I try to learn the other p...
It's a downgrade and I don't think it actually helps you learn.
marsh temple
yo yo mind if anyone can show me a good charge/interven victory rush macro please 😄
ionic fern
You can use the highlighted assistance one instead as a starter.
pallid quiver
Especially for tank specs, it, as a whole, is not particularly great
ionic fern
But that is also not ideal
marsh temple
and anygood prot macros in general new tank trying to learn
pallid quiver
mwahi beat me to it
it's better than trying to use the rotation assists as a healer at least
calm hinge
It's a downgrade and I don't think it actually helps you learn.
Rn I'm not using either but it's just a pain with the amount of buttons we have while trying to figure out how to tank in general
ionic fern
Just remember the priority of:
- Shield Slam
- Thunder Clap / Thunder Blast
Use cooldowns on cooldown ( Avatar/Roar/Demo Shout).
Start from there.
For rage spenders :
- Revenge if Shield Slam / Thunder Clap are on Cooldown.
- Ignore Pain if you need to spend Rage while Shield Slam / Thunder Clap are NOT on cooldown.
pallid quiver
Anymore than the above is extra performance fluff
As long as you're doing the above, you'll cover your baseline rotation responsibilities well enough, so you can work on managing defensive CD use/catching stragglers/interrupts/etc
calm hinge
For rage spenders :
- Revenge if Shield Slam / Thunder Clap are on Cooldown.
- I...
Not the 3 button rotation of doom
I was doing so much extra
ionic fern
It's just the beginning. There are a lot of nuances that we can start digging into once you have the core rotation down.
But the class itself revolves around generating as much rage as possible..and for that you gotta get the rotation down.
calm hinge
But the class itself revolves around generating as much rage as possible..and fo...
Makes sense
Tho question
neon elk
Bad idea , u charge quite a lot in m+ and u wont have SW ready for moments u need it
ionic fern
Jep,don't macro that into anything.
neon elk
There are pulls where u wanna open with SW up but its definitely not every charge pull required
calm hinge
Jep,don't macro that into anything.
Not even the jump gg
ionic fern
M+ is all about experience. Do the dungeons and you will get to know what hurts and can start planning cooldowns accordingly.
I did my first dawnbreaker this season treating it like the last season one..did not go well.
But,now I know and can play accordingly.
calm hinge
I did my first dawnbreaker this season treating it like the last season one..did...
Also had my first dawnbreaker yday
I was 4 shots in rawdogging it no route or tank mechanic knowledge coz friends pulled me there
It was something
Atleast I somewhat remembered from s1 but it did NOT go well
calm hinge
There are pulls where u wanna open with SW up but its definitely not every char...
How often should you keep shield block up
ionic fern
Always when tanking.
calm hinge
Ik ignore pain should be like 100% uptime if possible
neon elk
All the time idealy
calm hinge
Alr so it's the same
ionic fern
Ik ignore pain should be like 100% uptime if possible
You don't care about IP uptime
calm hinge
You don't care about IP uptime
Guh
ionic fern
iP uptime happens automatically if you play the spec correctly.
You get so much rage as MT that you are forced to spend it on IP
Only time you actually check at your IP value/uptime is when you need to ensure it's up for a big boss hit. Outside of this,spamming IP will be second nature,so make sure it's a comfortable button.
calm hinge
Yeah
Ik it's not like sum you gotta worry about
I just wondered if shield block is also sum you should just spam
ionic fern
Shield Block is something you need to think about a bit. With enough haste the CD of it shortens and it becomes easier to manage.
You need to ensure it's up as much as possible when tanking enemies
The fun part is that not all abilities are blockable,even if they are physical. Meaning that once you dig deeper into higher keys you also need to familiarize yourself with the blockable/reflectable sheet in the pins.
calm hinge
You get so much rage as MT that you are forced to spend it on IP
Hearing that I think I might be
Overspending rage on offensive
ionic fern
If the key levels allows it,you can do it. Just keep prioritizing SS/TC and send everything into Revenge/Execute. You can also forego some casts if SS/TC depending on how long the pack is going to live.
And there are also target counts for Thunder Blast and Outburst procs etc.
But these are all part of the nuances I mentioned earlier.
frosty mango
Overspending rage on offensive
As thane there is really no such thing as overspending rage on offensive
You will be generating so much rage that what to spend it on isn’t ever a choice because the answer is always the same, ignore pain
Very occasionally you’ll need to choose between execute and ignore pain but that would be at higher key levels when tanking dangerous trash or boss tankbusters
blazing ridge
Execute WA lightens up, I am simple man, I press Execute
I really need to calm down on clicking buttons, my hand cramped yesterday lol I think I need to work on pressing keys less during gcd xd
raven sparrow
has the tww spell reflect list updated for season 3? when i open the spreadsheet i see nothing listed. link has changed?
calm hinge
As thane there is really no such thing as overspending rage on offensive
Then I'm doing something even more wrong I noticed a couple times I couldn't afford ignore pain on tough packs
Where it gets shredded away in seconds
So I kinda forced to pop shield wall
jagged pier
has the tww spell reflect list updated for season 3? when i open the spreadsheet...
sheets working perfectly fine
calm hinge
I really need to calm down on clicking buttons, my hand cramped yesterday lol I ...
Hands never crampes
But my pinky is in pain
Half the time after a longer sessio
raven sparrow
@jagged pier u serious? can u send a screen shot? i am clicking the link here on disc
jagged pier
calm hinge
As thane there is really no such thing as overspending rage on offensive
Could it be coz I literally don't have a single set piece?
Lmao
raven sparrow
ohh omg the tabs are at the bottom
ocean smelt
Could it be coz I literally don't have a single set piece?
Probably not, the tier set gives us crazy damages not additionnal rage
calm hinge
Probably not, the tier set gives us crazy damages not additionnal rage
I'll just check my logs then and see what's up at home
chilly brook
torpid dome
You can get it from timewalking?
ocean smelt
Sure, the timewalking cache gives any item from the raid
cerulean tusk
Swarmgland ain't that bad, really. The hate it get is kinda overblown
weak dawn
Hey guys, is there addon for m+ routes and %?
cerulean tusk
Hey guys, is there addon for m+ routes and %?
MDT (method dungeon tools)
torpid dome
Swarmgland ain't that bad, really. The hate it get is kinda overblown
no this one is actually okay
but the nethergate, only opted into it for ilvl but tbh that was dumb
lmao
cerulean tusk
If only Pwarrior didn't get reduced dam on it
lunar flare
MDT (method dungeon tools)
I long for a day when opening mdt actually shows my location on the map/route
It’s so difficult for me to understand how the map translates into the 3d space
But perhaps I have brain damage
cerulean tusk
Jus do the dung enough and it becomes 2nd nature. Then you start adapting on the fly
lunar flare
Yeah doing the reps seems like the solution
cerulean tusk
My way: pull the dung in a way I find fun.
Once I found a path that feels fluid and fun, I put in the data to see %. Then I prune out any pulls I feel are annoying if I can.
I am 100% ok with going 20% over the % if it makes the run feel fun and smooth
cerulean olive
kekw, been playing bm hunter as alt and for some reason my pets are humongous with bestial wrath
cerulean tusk
Where video go
torpid dome
My way: pull the dung in a way I find fun.
Once I found a path that feels flui...
going 20% over might be a bit much on higher keys tho :-p
lofty glen
how much haste is too much haste?
cerulean olive
i think 21k is softcap
lofty glen
:3
cerulean olive
but sim alot 🙂
lofty glen
guess i have to get som other stuff XD
torpid dome
i think 21k is softcap
21k already? hmm I think I'm over by 3k now lol
cerulean olive
Sim it and find the sweetspot
torpid dome
we only sim for dmg optimization right?
cerulean olive
yup
lofty glen
21k already? hmm I think I'm over by 3k now lol
i am 8,5 over XD
torpid dome
i am 8,5 over XD
kek
yeah I need to sim, never really do it and so far I went about it following the motto of can never have enough haste
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/the-maelstrom/gundarian?
Is the progress so far, guess it's decent
tonight we goin for a +10 priory clear for the vault
split mural
Hello everyone
I wanted to know if there is a hurry heading in War protection please? Because I am at 40/45%
lunar flare
Hurry heading is a fantastic way of phrasing that
Haste suffers from diminishing returns yes
torpid dome
I guess 21k results to 35-40% ish?
torpid dome
you can only do simming from your character ingame right?
neon elk
U can find your char on page by name/realm
But im not sure u can sim bag/vault stuff that way
torpid dome
yeah dont have stuff in bag or vault anyways, so in principle what I have equipped is what I have currently
torn gulch
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1236624.png
seems we might get our damage nerfed again
torpid dome
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1236624.png
seems we might get...
well we are a bit overtuned rn on the dmg side, so that would make sense I guess
karmic plinth
kind of just praying they buff other tanks damage
rough egret
the thing is that even withoout new tier we are rly strong.. 😄
torn gulch
knowing blizzard we'll see another 30% to ionising strike
rough egret
yesterday I was doing double dmg of BDK and Monk in raid..
they were both a bid undergeard, and not the best at their class i think but still
vast forge
brand + pacemaker for key damage yeah?
torpid dome
bro how are you already having so many useful trinkets lmao
vast forge
bro how are you already having so many useful trinkets lmao
doing 50+ keys and raid splits (think we had 5 tank trinkets drop in 2 splits combined)
rough egret
brand is huge bis, even on chamopn lvl its doing big dmg
torpid dome
ive ran over 45 priory's the last 2 days - still no tome
jesus
I'm doing a +10 priory tonight, hopefully I get the trink XD
torpid dome
lmao
but yeah if you run that many then taht makes sense
I dont got the time for that unfortunately 🙁
neon elk
Dont worry, most people dont
next trench
are any of those good
prime sphinx
gorger is okayish but there are better from dung
round pendant
They need to give shadow priest a normal kick cd
torpid dome
symbiotic ethergauze also seems decent
rough egret
it has Stamina, eww 😄
mellow bridge
symbiotic ethergauze also seems decent
def not
tardy crane
Sims are favouring crit mastery for dps
should this be ignored up to haste soft cap@21k, then other secondaries can be considered?
current gear haste is at 22k, focusing on Raid ST dmg
jade pulsar
I'm doing a +10 priory tonight, hopefully I get the trink XD
forgot that all i had to do was start complaining, gl tonight
jade pulsar
ended up 42 priory's last days, not as bad as court of stars farm for the ring and trinket tbf
pastel geyser
are any of those good
yo what vendor is this?
jagged pier
just do a m0 with 4 traders
u can still get it to 704
which is very close to 710 tbh
sweet summit
torpid dome
def not
it's big stamina + temp shieled every x seconds
It's not the best, but if you need to make a choice between those trinks it's def a decent option until you get to the S-tiers
torn gulch
gritty sphinx
Decided to pull the whole middle after the first boss in Priory on a +8 and this happened
gritty sphinx
Nobody died surprisingly lol
dusky canopy
Go off 👑
gritty sphinx
me hitting every single defensive fighting for my life
fast nexus
Only counts if you are sitting in bstance and playing gigachad colossus
rough egret
a very good skill, paired with aoe silence .)
hallow garden
ohh its disrupting shout
torpid dome
yeah disrupting shout is amazing
I either use it to mass kick casters, or to settle the aggro problem during some big pulls
mellow bridge
it's big stamina + temp shieled every x seconds
It's not the best, but if you ne...
it being "big stamina" is the entire problem
stamina is pretty much a dead stat outside of niche oneshots
meanwhile you are permanently losing out on both defensive and offensive value from ideally strength or at least another secondary stat
the shields dont even make up for the loss of the strength probably
torpid dome
soo... From those options posted, which ones are better?
there were 5 options and this one was top 2 from the options they sent lmao
idle copper
When you put the ingredients in and select 5* from the personal order the ilvl jumps up to 720
mellow bridge
essence gorger is fine
and if you need 2, any of those that give strength would be better
civic moon
is it worth gettting 40 ilvl on legs but i lose 2set
torpid dome
on 1 piece? sim it
mellow bridge
make sure to consider the lost block uptime as well and how much haste you have
might have to swap to HR instead of ITF in that case which would also very much change your sim
noble cove
is it worth gettting 40 ilvl on legs but i lose 2set
Sim it
civic moon
id do it but i like the shield wall tier sett so idk
i have like 30 sign ups on my key all are dps
isnobody playing ghealer
lunar flare
i have like 30 sign ups on my key all are dps
It's been like this since the dawn of time
rough nest
civic moon
so manny good dps in q but i dont wanna just take them and then wait 10min for healer n they leave cuz no healer
vale escarp
a very good skill, paired with aoe silence .)
*aoe interrupt
zenith aurora
is macroing mud to avatar insanity
warm plinth
Yes. Macroing a defensive trinket makes 0 sense
solid sun
Especially if you keep doing it expecting different results
neon elk
Also macroing anything to avatar is kinda sus as it has no set CD
zenith aurora
I needed that sense knocked into me thank you
civic moon
we only have 1 catalystt charge this week right
prime sphinx
2nd from 2k score or hc dimensus
civic moon
2nd from 2k score or hc dimensus
wtf
i have 1
i didnt catalye
bro aint no way
if this counted my new voidsplinter
i catalyzed an item from s2
they should be free
as they made them in df or shadowlands
to be free from other seasonn
prime sphinx
s2 items are free
civic moon
yeah
rough egret
did you use the item that you get for 2k?
civic moon
i have 1 catalyst charge
rough egret
its in bags
dusky canopy
Is this aim chat?
Hey
What’s
Up
Bro
Nice
Trinket
Need
Weapon
From
Vault
ASAP
Pog
lunar flare
I know +10s aren't like, amazing, but getting them done as a new tank feelsgoodman
Learning what a difference good damage dealers make as well
rough egret
its the best you can do
dusky canopy
Grats astryn! Gg
lunar flare
Bad damage pulls feel like wading through molasses, good damage pulls and its like a warm knife through butter
lunar flare
Grats astryn! Gg
Thank you friend
Stalking this channel and reading Jakey's inane ramblings has helped as well
dusky canopy
Good dps is mandatory when the key level is high because you have to kill the pack before you empty the bag
lunar flare
Yeah I'm realising that now
jagged pier
drifting surge
dull parrot
keen star
is it NA reset yet?
mortal cypress
solid sun
Are not pwar tanks having threat issues?
I still don’t have any tier so I’m still rocking Col so the gather is still annoying but I saw some reactions to that tank damage graph on wowhead that were non pwar players saying that’s why they’ve been having threat issues
ionic nimbus
Are not pwar tanks having threat issues?
As Thane it’s easier because you don’t rely on revenge, Thunderblast is a big snap Aggro push
torpid dome
I have not had any aggro problems in S1 and S3, and mainly played MT
narrow prawn
man, operation floodgate is a nightmare for me
i still don't know this dungeon route
torn gulch
Check threechest or keystone guru they have all the routes you need
solid sun
That’s not what I was asking lol….
lunar flare
Check threechest or keystone guru they have all the routes you need
Is there much diff between these two sites, other than keystoneguru being riddled with ads?
torn gulch
Not really
neon elk
That’s not what I was asking lol….
If u mean as in raid then no, unless its someone who doesnt press their buttons
civic moon
I still don’t have any tier so I’m still rocking Col so the gather is still anno...
well troar usually pulls enough threat for me
butt when im gathering mobs i might lose threat on some
lunar flare
Holy shit I got the tome trinket from priory and thought it was trash but it's actually S tier, what a treat
What a great day to play the video game World of Warcraft
topaz latch
Best gotdamn trinket in the whole game
lunar flare
I love this idea of getting smashed by Dimensius and grabbing my tome like "hmmm yes as it was foretold in the verses"
topaz latch
wasnt there a pin about how much haste u want before switching to ITF?
civic moon
https://tenor.com/view/lolol-dummy-laughing-pointing-on-you-gif-15125641
i got it on my first priory
champ track tho
topaz latch
i just lost a whole bunch of haste and was considering if i should switch back to HR
neon elk
Around 20-21k for comfy life without s2 tier
dusky canopy
champ track tho
Doesn’t count but nice start!
civic moon
it did 10% of my dmg on a boss once lol
solid sun
My first priory 10 got me my tome
lunar flare
My first priory 10 got me my tome
Same brother, let us rejoice
solid sun
Yes yes
shrewd grove
Good luck on vaults today
solid sun
Page 43 fills me with joy
hearty cipher
I ran like 6 priories until I realized im on fury loot spec 
lunar flare
Page 43 fills me with joy
Tis a great page for sure
shrewd grove
I ran like 6 priories until I realized im on fury loot spec <:deadge:90027992713...
I got a signet before I realized it 😞
hearty cipher
I traded 2 signets away and still didn't realize
should check loot tables more often
shrewd grove
Nooooo lol
sharp merlin
man, tried to do a 12, the 2nd pull on DB, what the fuck?
Do I need Spell Reflect up?
neon elk
Just press spell block duh
sharp merlin
Nah seriously lol, I guess I'll do 12's once I hit 4 set
shrewd grove
Just press spell block duh
solid sun
Everytime we have gone in there it has had some kind of fun bug or new “feature”
topaz latch
Around 20-21k for comfy life without s2 tier
thank you good sir. upgrading ilvl on pieces cost me a lot of haste and i dont like it.
solid sun
And clearly it is an unfixable dungeon because most of the issues have been present from the beginning lol
neon elk
Those damn ships and dragonriding combination is failed design
If they made them stationary fixed structures it would fix half of issues
frosty mango
They can absolutely fix it
frosty mango
They just need to give it the grimrail treatment
neon elk
True dat
tribal wharf
i think airship style mounts, should be helicopter style flying, and dragon style mounts are dragon flying
if thats what were talking about, seems it
oh, just dungeon set piece airships,
like, i think it would be neat, if you can rent a fancy airship from major cities if you are guild leader
takes you to the raid or something, i duno
you buy it as guild rather and its you pay for it and get access to it any time during say 30 90 days
undone beacon
Everytime we have gone in there it has had some kind of fun bug or new “feature”
Last time I tried a 10 Dawn someone knocked a caster off one of the side boats and it proceeded to keep us in combat and free cast for the rest of the dungeon. Untargetable. Was awesome
lunar flare
They just need to give it the grimrail treatment
The only acceptable treatment for Grimrail is removing it from the game
undone beacon
Night Bolt did like 1.7billion damage over the course of the key
lunar flare
And banning anyone who voted for it in Shadowlands
solid sun
Last time I tried a 10 Dawn someone knocked a caster off one of the side boats a...
Lmfao dude that same thing happened to us!
Our healer just kept getting blasted the whole key
She was so annoyed lol
tribal wharf
what i'll say about adding dungeons from old expansions and then there is clearly a design difficulty change is i prefer it more like the old style difficulty
could easily say with fact i only ever did karazhan in sl, and then HOV and lair in DF
the difficulty generally is easier in those, and i prefer that
all of the shadowlands dungeons while fun were a big middle finger to player
who were actively playing it
tribal wharf
like its memorable and enjoyable, but its like trying to beat tmnt on nes
it's like, fuckin impossible for 90% of us
frosty mango
like its memorable and enjoyable, but its like trying to beat tmnt on nes
I just did that last month
Goat game
Almost as good as turtles in time
tribal wharf
i always fuck up the jump right before entering the damn
and then you got ufo's that lower your health
so then i die in the dam and gg
it aint the dam that kills me directly
and then world 2, oh god, i have no idea, i only ever explore north west section and die
solid sun
That turtles game that came out not too long ago really holds up to turtles in time imo
Very solid addition
tribal wharf
what one? there is ton of tmnt content
solid sun
It’s called like
Shredder’s something or other
It’s a classic arcade beat em up style game
tribal wharf
shredder revenge then ya i heard of it but not played it
solid sun
Yeah
tribal wharf
theres another one recently moreso and it sucks
civic moon
bring back garrosh witth the help of the brone dragonflight
he will prob gett corrupted again tho
or maybe he learned his lesson
tribal wharf
i say just make new characters who are highly memorable
like mike from tmnt since we were discussing it earlier
WHOA DUDE tubular, cowabunga!
solid sun
I think the current horde characters are pretty good. They just don’t get a lot of spotlight
Hard to remember someone that is rarely around
shrewd grove
And then they finally get character development right before being killed off
neon elk
There will be sylvanas redemption arc soon
solid sun
Loved her when she was busy doing stuff and prominent in the story
tribal wharf
so, do we finally remove the sword in 11.0 i guess it is now
12.0
whatever we are on
as in, quest wise,
not like, fruit bowls
neon elk
What sword ?
solid sun
Nah whatever expansion is after midnight will be us flying in a space ship fighting Azeroth holding the sword
tribal wharf
i figure this expansion should be all about
solid sun
She’s super big like sargeras holding his sword and we gotta take her out
In a vehicle raid encounter
tribal wharf
dimensius and xal'atah hold hands and they try to absorb the power of the sword and it kind of works but they fail
and then that leaves plot for sword to change and need attention
like, thats the reason he came to azeroth
i would figure that sargeras would have/be able to recreate the sword
ocean smelt
it's like, fuckin impossible for 90% of us
I don't seem to remember that SL dungeons were that hard on average
jagged pier
when is the cinematic reveal,
today
mellow bridge
im so hyped
tribal wharf
like, when they add a uh, wod, or panda dungeon right
to the current keystone map set
tribal wharf
it becomes very apparent, how much more simpler, and thus easier those keys are
mellow bridge
lol
tribal wharf
despite that they added the number magic to it
jagged pier
4k feet coming 
mellow bridge
some of the old keys we got were some of the hardest of their seasons lmao
like jade temple
toxic pewter
according to leaks the new features video of midnight is 4 minutes long. war within was 2 minutes l ong
longest since cataclysm video
solid sun
4k feet coming <:Copium:837690270492524566>
Lmao
tribal wharf
4k feet coming <:Copium:837690270492524566>
my opinion is that fuck it, play into it at this point, its not what i want but someones asking for it
jagged pier
if the leak ive seen for it, is true some ppl may not be happy
sharp merlin
When it comes to big magic dmg dungoens, can I replace Shield Specialisation with Fight through the flames?
Col War
solid sun
Did I see a picture with an orc demon hunter
jagged pier
my opinion is that fuck it, play into it at this point, its not what i want but ...
its a meme they made them selve by putting them in every cutscene
tribal wharf
does the purple magic thingy exploding and releasisng xal count as what we are talking about
toxic pewter
Did I see a picture with an orc demon hunter
ya that leaked last night, still unsure if its real or not
jagged pier
When it comes to big magic dmg dungoens, can I replace Shield Specialisation wit...
no
tribal wharf
cuz i seen that one too
jagged pier
if u are worried about living u take the hig key build
tribal wharf
orc is too big and too dumb to be demon hunter
jagged pier
look at it like this u want to make magic damage do less, do therefore u make physical do more and take more of your IP absorb
tribal wharf
plus, that would look stupid
jagged pier
makes 0 sense
toxic pewter
word on street is draenei/void elf dh for alliance and orc/nightborne for horde
jagged pier
and theres one on wowhead
tribal wharf
can you imagine the demon form for orc dh
sharp merlin
but the wowhead one doesn't have BSV?
toxic pewter
I mean orc have a huge history with the burning legion so I personally can see it
sick sentinel
anyone play healers?
jagged pier
but the wowhead one doesn't have BSV?
??????
toxic pewter
why every leak blurry or at an angle lmao i mean wtf
jagged pier
why every leak blurry or at an angle lmao i mean wtf
cause screenshotting pc meta data will have ip of pc where it was taken
toxic pewter
oh I mean thats true im n ot even saying screenshot stuff
sharp merlin
im doing col tho
toxic pewter
but even like photographs
jagged pier
or have to be emailed out much easier to steal on phone
sharp merlin
strange, the wowhead one for Col Push doesn't take bsv
sick sentinel
dh is doing least damage of all tanks in mythic raid
toxic pewter
u guys see the latest anti prot warr wowhead post calling us out to be nerfed
we r 'bringin the pain'
XD
jagged pier
we do need a slight nerf dps wise
solid sun
Need is an odd word choice imo
jagged pier
i actually feel slightly weak defensively in raid tbh, 2 sheild walls not cutting it atm
sick sentinel
i want prot warrior to be doing same damage as dps
sharp merlin
are the same
toxic pewter
you are doing mythic bosses right
jagged pier
ping nomer
tribal wharf
mellow bridge
i actually feel slightly weak defensively in raid tbh, 2 sheild walls not cuttin...
on what fight
jagged pier
you are doing mythic bosses right
not, yet but even nexus king your like close to not having SW for every mechanic
espically in final phase
toxic pewter
yah i just now barely made it to final phase on nexus king
jagged pier
and taking the beam, we have fuck all compared to other tanks
toxic pewter
that phase is wild lmao
jagged pier
where in raz we at least had spell block for it
toxic pewter
yah true
sick sentinel
did u use shiel block
plush tendon
https://www.wowhead.com/news/protection-warrior-bringing-the-pain-the-war-within...
fake news
buff warrior
solid sun
Thankfully I’ll have more gear when we get to that part of heroic
mellow bridge
just play the amazing new absorb trinket from raid
toxic pewter
definitely true missing spell block a lot on nexus king
plush tendon
toxic pewter
does the cheat death trinket work did i read somewhere it doesnt work or something
sick sentinel
u have 25 percent magic damage reduc on 20 sec cd already
jagged pier
i think honestly its a take hunkder down and actually us SR as its own cd
instead of on top
then its fine
for final phase at least
toxic pewter
yah that new spell reflect talent seems strong
jagged pier
it annoying literally nothing is bloackable tbh
u could drop shield spec and take hunker down unless melees kill you
solid sun
Say it ain’t so
jagged pier
im not inclined too the adds hit like trains
toxic pewter
is anything even reflectable these days
solid sun
Yes
toxic pewter
gonna check the sheet
solid sun
Spell reflect claps third boss halls
jagged pier
dont
jagged pier
for raid our kit works on like 4 things total
sick sentinel
i mean warrior already has the highest damagge reduc passive of all tanks(their passive already equivalent to many tanks active mitigation cds)
toxic pewter
that sounds like fake news
sick sentinel
id like to see shield block work on magic damage thatd be neat
mellow bridge
that's gonna be real nice for mythic
toxic pewter
that actually prob the best spell reflect interaction in the entire raid lmao
at least top 3
sick sentinel
is there something to tell when u need to spell reflect
mellow bridge
yea your brain
toxic pewter
there is a weak aura people use
shrewd grove
id like to see shield block work on magic damage thatd be neat
Would be too strong. They should make it a CD where we can block spells for like 20s
toxic pewter
paladins already do that
mellow bridge
wasnt even intended as a burn or w/e :p
sick sentinel
ya paladins can block spells for 20 secnds with a single cd AND can block spells passsively
mellow bridge
there's a weakaura that shows if you are targeted by a reflectable ability i believe?
but you need to think when you actually wanna use it
toxic pewter
paladins mastery can even block bleeds iirc
mellow bridge
not every reflectable ability is worth reflecting
mellow bridge
paladins mastery can even block bleeds iirc
yea everything that is a dot
toxic pewter
actually kinda wild lol
sick sentinel
time to reroll paladin!
mellow bridge
was turbo strong in s1 for mists
the slashes
the diff between having 100% block up there and not was wild
sick sentinel
ya but paladin dps sucks
toxic pewter
they should of just let us keep proactive bleed removal and proactive spell reflect since theirs is all passive... makes a good dynamic where we are more proactive than them
sick sentinel
but prot paladin can also interrupt most of any spec on wow
toxic pewter
yeah ngl when they nerfed it in dragonflight beta that was awful news cuz it would of unlocked a lot of survivability for us
sick sentinel
prot paladin can also cast divien shield to remove all dots/bleeds
shrewd grove
We do really need a way to deal with bleeds. Its a tragedy
mellow bridge
prot paladin also dies to melee attacks and has to rotate all CDs to live those
while we press SB
sick sentinel
true
mellow bridge
comparing like that makes no sense
sick sentinel
pros/cons
solid sun
We should just ignore bleeds
sick sentinel
lol prot pally will go from 100 to zero if they dont have consecration up also
toxic pewter
yeah I cant deny prot pala is much squishier as far as I can tell
solid sun
I don’t understand where all this pally talk is coming from
toxic pewter
a lot more room for punishment
strong forum
shrewd grove
I don’t understand where all this pally talk is coming from
People miss spell block
toxic pewter
ya started with how they can block magic dam
solid sun
It’s alright
mellow bridge
from what I can tell, no spellblock barely matters in m+ this season
so that's nice
shrewd grove
Keys barely hurt this season tbh
neon elk
All they need to do is give bleed removal to more classes instead of just dragon, even if its 1min cd
toxic pewter
dragon stole our bleed removal and our bloodlust
sick sentinel
ya dragon is only class that can remove bleeds outside dwrfs
shrewd grove
All they need to do is give bleed removal to more classes instead of just dra...
RSham get a cauterize using lava. I believe
spice wharf
I swear that some people are weird. Is it normal that guy is choosing wrong route in dungeons, but in his opinion is faster then he arrives later, me as a tank doing more DPS than him with Frost DK and then he leaves and saying that he needs some serious dungeons to get 80 fast. Lol
toxic pewter
anyone other than the tank 'choosing a route' is a red flag
shrewd grove
Anyone who doesn't follow the tank route in an M+ is incorrect. Full stop. Even if the tank is wrong
You have to be wrong together. If they want to pick route, they roll tank
jagged pier
hes lvling i think peeps
spice wharf
I mean, I'm 58 level but it's still weird
toxic pewter
oh lol none of that matters
jagged pier
the fdk is just preping u for max lvl
shrewd grove
Oh you can be wrong in leveling but still weird. Meters dont matter while leveling at all. Scaling is so fucked
sick sentinel
lvl 10 healer can be outdpsing lvl 78 dps in dungeons ez
spice wharf
I mean, I think I chose normal way cause I was faster than him by a lot
shrewd grove
I mean, I think I chose normal way cause I was faster than him by a lot
The ending answer here is it doesn't matter. Just accept that he thinks he was right and move on
sick sentinel
ya i dont take leveling dungeons seriously
spice wharf
I start to think that choosing Tank as primary role as new player is a bad idea
sick sentinel
ya i think dps is best for new people
lunar flare
I start to think that choosing Tank as primary role as new player is a bad idea
Tough to start with but you'll be a better player from it longterm
shrewd grove
No, thats fine. Thinking leveling dungeons matter in any way as a new player is a bad idea. They're a means to an end so you can hit max lvl
neon elk
How tf is there like 200k more flood keys compared to 2nd most run ? xd
spice wharf
No, thats fine. Thinking leveling dungeons matter in any way as a new player is ...
I mean, I feel like tank is the father of group. He must know where to go, how to go etc. Just like a guide
shrewd grove
How tf is there like 200k more flood keys compared to 2nd most run ? xd
Bc Blizz wants you running FG
sick sentinel
tank is the pace setter of the dungeons
solid sun
I mean, I feel like tank is the father of group. He must know where to go, how t...
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